[00:04] <Quintasan> huh
[00:04] <Quintasan> Why did my MOTU membership expire
[00:04] <Quintasan> wtu
[00:08] <Quintasan> Riddell: ping
[00:10] <Quintasan> Riddell: nvm
[00:13] <Riddell> pong
[00:14] <Quintasan> well, I'll ask anyways
[00:15] <Quintasan> Riddell: My membership in LP in MOTU expired cause somehow it landed in my "spam from builders" tag and I didn't know about it until today, what should I do with this?
[00:21] <apachelogger> Quintasan: you need to reapply
[00:21] <apachelogger> whatever the process is for that nowadays
[00:22] <apachelogger> you'll get to an interview get asked some pointless and phony questions and then your membership gets reinstated
[00:22] <Quintasan> apachelogger: well I figured I would ask persia or cjwatson or someone from dmb first
[00:22] <Quintasan> before doing anything pointless or sth
[00:22] <apachelogger> that will be what they tell you :P
[00:22] <apachelogger> unless policies were changed
[00:22] <apachelogger> and as we know ubuntu policies rarely get changed
[00:23] <apachelogger> if anything they get made more involving
[00:23] <Quintasan> it won't hurt to ask
[00:23] <apachelogger> sure
[00:29] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Well, bdrung was kind enough to renew it without any problems
[00:29]  * apachelogger files complaint
[00:30] <Quintasan> HERP DERP
[00:30]  * Quintasan throws pythonz at apachelogger
[00:30]  * Quintasan throws some more pythonz at apachelogger just to make sure he won't make it to the other channel
[00:31] <apachelogger> COMPLAINTS MUST BE FILED BY MAIL!
[00:31] <apachelogger> muhahahaahaha
[00:31]  * Quintasan throws pythonz at apachelogger's mail client
[00:31] <Quintasan> Enjoy
[00:31] <apachelogger> you cant
[00:31] <apachelogger> it is alreay there
[00:31] <apachelogger> it is made by the google
[00:31] <apachelogger> muahahahahahaah
[00:31]  * Quintasan throws bugged pythonz at apachelogger's mail client
[00:31] <Quintasan> Problem?
[00:31]  * apachelogger wonders what the difference is
[00:32] <Quintasan> Just in case
[00:32]  * Quintasan throws pythonz into apachelogger mailbox if he decides to write a letter to Canonical
[00:32] <Quintasan> I think now you can only call them ^_^
[00:34]  * apachelogger left a voice mail
[00:34] <apachelogger> that should be fine for now
[00:34] <apachelogger> otherwise I will write a letter
[00:34] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Are you serious? There are pythonz there as well.
[00:34] <apachelogger> who cares
[00:35] <apachelogger> there is a gator inside anyway
[00:35] <apachelogger> come to think of it
[00:35] <Quintasan> Pythons can pwn gatos
[00:35] <apachelogger> why do we not have gators in europe?
[00:35] <Quintasan> gators*
[00:35] <apachelogger> http://www.theexplodingwhale.com/wp-content/gator_python.jpg
[00:35] <apachelogger> dontthinkso
[00:36] <Quintasan> just because it was bit
[00:36] <Quintasan> well, I bet if wrapped itself around the gator and strangled it
[00:36] <Quintasan> s/if/it
[00:36] <apachelogger> not sure that is very easy
[00:37] <apachelogger> anyhow
[00:37] <apachelogger> very unfortunate hunting accident that was
[00:37] <apachelogger> spam!
[00:37] <apachelogger> New Mailing List for Project Neon
[00:37] <apachelogger> pff
[00:37] <apachelogger> why does launchpad think I give a gcc?
[00:40] <Quintasan> >auto-subscribe
[00:40] <Quintasan> Pfffffffffffthshchch
[00:40] <apachelogger> i just cant get enough
[00:40] <apachelogger> i just cant get enough
[01:04] <apachelogger> c'est impossible!
[01:04]  * apachelogger throws his 3rd keyboard this week against the wall
[01:05] <Quintasan> Good night.
[01:15] <apachelogger> Nightrose: think of me
[02:07] <CIA-39> [muon] jmthomas * 1210374 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (Application.cpp Application.h) Don't bother splitting the categories up since we're already calling contains() while filtering. This speeds filtering by category up.
[11:47] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yes! ... no ! ... uh .. maybe
[11:47] <shadeslayer> didnt sleep last night so my clock is all sorts of weird
[11:47] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I just cant get enough
[11:47] <shadeslayer> enough of what
[11:47] <apachelogger> did you party?
[11:47] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yeah
[11:47]  * apachelogger was citing depeche mode!
[11:47] <shadeslayer> see pics on FB :P
[11:47] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: groovy
[11:47] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: so now you can do work
[11:47] <apachelogger> ?
[11:47] <apachelogger> muahahahaha
[11:47] <shadeslayer> yes!
[11:47] <apachelogger> splendid
[11:48] <apachelogger> go and do stuff
[11:48] <shadeslayer> but first
[11:48] <apachelogger> ah
[11:48] <apachelogger> I new it
[11:48] <apachelogger> omgomgomg
[11:48] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: no i need to send a mail bashing someone
[11:48] <shadeslayer> regarding this http://www.slideshare.net/gauravpaliwal/debianvsubuntu
[11:48] <shadeslayer> those slides make my eyes bleed
[11:48] <apachelogger> bashy bashy
[11:49] <shadeslayer> yes
[11:49] <apachelogger> hm
[11:50] <apachelogger> what I find more insulting is the topic
[11:50] <shadeslayer> lawl
[11:50] <apachelogger> dont use Kubuntu, use KDE!
[11:50]  * apachelogger gets creeped out by likeback code
[11:50] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ill paste my rant from another channel on pastebin ... hold on
[11:51]  * apachelogger should never have taken that on
[11:51] <apachelogger> also qtmobilevlc is a bit held up :S
[11:51] <apachelogger> as usual X is at fault (well, sort of)
[11:51] <apachelogger> overlay painting is getting in the way of fancy uis
[11:51] <apachelogger> (like it did never do that before)
[11:51] <shadeslayer> also
[11:51] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/549054
[11:52] <shadeslayer> Qt on Android \o/
[11:52] <shadeslayer> now maybe i can haz quassel
[11:52]  * shadeslayer pokes Sput
[11:53] <apachelogger> [02:06:07] <YuviPanda_> droidslayer, the contributor agreement, The Unity/Shell issue
[11:53] <apachelogger> wah?
[11:53] <apachelogger> eh?
[11:53]  * apachelogger goes puking all over the place
[11:53] <shadeslayer> what about it
[11:53]  * apachelogger adds another blank blog post to write
[11:53] <apachelogger> "Ubuntu is not Canonical"
[11:53] <shadeslayer> yes! 
[11:53] <shadeslayer> and those slides are all wrong
[11:54] <apachelogger> they are all all wrong!
[11:54] <shadeslayer> yep
[11:54] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: would you also like to bash this guy? :P
[11:54] <apachelogger> no
[11:54] <apachelogger> I have more useful things to do
[11:55] <apachelogger> bashing is for when one has nothing else ot do
[11:55] <shadeslayer> hahaha ...
[11:55] <apachelogger> as it is utter pointless
[11:55] <apachelogger> geeks tend to have a very fixed idea of the universe
[11:55] <shadeslayer> Quintasan_:  WHY AM I GETTING SPAMMED BY NEON
[11:55] <apachelogger> involving nakkid ladies and what not
[11:56]  * apachelogger only imagines one fixed point in the universe and that would be the last unicorn
[11:56] <shadeslayer> also i haz to update qtwebkit .....
[11:56] <shadeslayer> and file bug reports on Ark
[11:56] <shadeslayer> and Qt
[11:56] <shadeslayer> and what not
[11:57] <shadeslayer> i just i hope i pass in today's exam .. i do NOT want to give it again
[11:57] <apachelogger> of course you will
[11:57] <shadeslayer> oh oh 
[11:57] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: coming to conf.kde.in ? :P
[11:57] <apachelogger> as you did not do kubuntu things, you surely were learning all the time :P
[11:57] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: only if Ubuntu pays
[11:57] <apachelogger> surely they make money with their contributors agreement
[11:57] <apachelogger> and with unity
[11:58] <apachelogger> I hear they are selling unity actually
[11:58] <shadeslayer> 0_o
[11:58] <shadeslayer> whut
[11:58] <shadeslayer> that is NEWS
[11:58] <apachelogger> yes
[11:58] <apachelogger> to hardware vendors and whatnot
[11:58] <apachelogger> they are totally not free
[11:58] <apachelogger> they make money
[11:58] <apachelogger> can you imagine? !!!!?!??!
[11:59] <shadeslayer> :O
[11:59] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: anyhow, I could technically come but then I woudl probably fail every course next semster as I would be travelling about every month at least once
[11:59] <apachelogger> also sponsoring needs to be secured
[12:00] <apachelogger> also I need to get qtmobilevlc done
[12:00] <shadeslayer> right
[12:00] <apachelogger> wanna see my first qstatemachine released
[12:00] <apachelogger> and if I did not already mention it: qstatemachines are the awesome
[12:01] <shadeslayer> you did on identi.ca
[12:01] <apachelogger> kk
[12:01] <apachelogger> denting ftw
[12:01] <apachelogger> also likeback ftw
[12:01] <apachelogger> design fail right there
[12:01]  * shadeslayer ponders where to start
[12:02] <shadeslayer> oh oh 
[12:02] <shadeslayer> i know ... kde pastebin backend
[12:02] <shadeslayer> need to fix it
[12:03] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~neon/project-neon/attica-ubuntu/annotate/head:/patches/no-rpath << plz2help
[12:03] <shadeslayer> any ideas what to do with that patch?
[12:03] <apachelogger> eat it
[12:04] <shadeslayer> well i just had koffee, pizza, a sub and icecream ... so no thanks
[12:04] <apachelogger> litter it
[12:04] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: http://wiki.debian.org/RpathIssue
[12:04] <shadeslayer> yofel: ^^
[12:05] <apachelogger> completely unimportant to neon
[12:05] <apachelogger> also I have a feeling upstream had a reason for forcing rpath
[12:06] <shadeslayer> so ... one of my friends has a N900
[12:06] <shadeslayer> im thinking of trading :>
[12:07] <apachelogger> yeah
[12:07] <apachelogger> you could help me with qtmobilevlc
[12:07] <shadeslayer> well
[12:07] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: android haz qt too now
[12:07] <apachelogger> not qwidgets
[12:07] <apachelogger> though indeed, I would like to go for qgraphicsfoo, in which case android would work too
[12:08]  * shadeslayer has seen alot of QGV and QGS crashes in plasma in the last week
[12:08] <apachelogger> or maybe it is plasma crashed in general? ;)
[12:08] <shadeslayer> plasma triggers the crash yes
[12:08] <shadeslayer> but its a crash in QGV/QGS
[12:08] <shadeslayer> cant remember which
[12:09] <shadeslayer> they should've shipped KDE 4.6 with magic
[12:09] <shadeslayer> instead of plasma
[12:09] <apachelogger>     void disableBar();
[12:09] <apachelogger>     void enableBar();
[12:09] <shadeslayer> also
[12:09] <shadeslayer> what are we doing on new years eve
[12:09] <apachelogger> this likeback is such shit it is unbelievable
[12:09] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: haxx0ring
 meh, debianisms
[12:10] <shadeslayer> hahah
[12:10]  * apachelogger actually does not have plans so that might be what he is going to do
[12:10] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i haz to re partition disks for dual boot
[12:10] <apachelogger> dualboot what?
[12:10] <apachelogger> Kubuntu and Kubuntu2?
[12:10] <shadeslayer> windoze
[12:10] <apachelogger> why that?
[12:11] <apachelogger> seems utter pointless
[12:11] <shadeslayer> Steam
[12:11] <shadeslayer> COD 4 part 2
[12:11] <apachelogger> Oo
[12:11] <apachelogger> ...
[12:11] <apachelogger> first you have to learn
[12:11] <shadeslayer> essentially ... games!!
[12:11] <apachelogger> and when you have time you play games
[12:11] <apachelogger> ...
[12:11] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: im going to be run by koffee now .... no more sleep
[12:12] <shadeslayer> sleep = waste of time
[12:12] <shadeslayer> ive been up for 24 hours now ... on 4 cups of koffee and a cup of magic
[12:12] <apachelogger> finally you realize
[12:12] <apachelogger> ScottK: I think he might eventually become a master after all
[12:12] <shadeslayer> yofel: so drop the patch
[12:13]  * apachelogger releases liblikeback
[12:13] <apachelogger> kronos: ping
[12:13] <yofel> good
[12:13] <shadeslayer> wait .. kronos is here :O
[12:13] <kronos> apachelogger: pong
[12:13] <kronos> shadeslayer: hey
[12:14] <shadeslayer> Riddell: around? can i haz that EC2 instance>
[12:14] <apachelogger> kronos: akunambol progress?
[12:14] <apachelogger> kronos: I am about to release liblikeback 0.0.1 to make things easier
[12:14] <shadeslayer> kronos: \o
[12:14]  * shadeslayer is all sorts of high
[12:14] <apachelogger> kronos: also I have the akunambol developer and 5 users crawling up my back
[12:14] <apachelogger> I fear they will chop of my head if we do not get packages soon ^^
[12:14] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: get to work then
[12:14] <apachelogger> draw some class diagrams
[12:14] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: already on it!
[12:15] <apachelogger> or statemachines
[12:15] <shadeslayer> well
[12:15] <apachelogger> when one is high one needs to do design shit
[12:15] <shadeslayer> i don't know what those are
[12:15] <shadeslayer> are they magic?
[12:15]  * shadeslayer isnt very artistic
[12:15] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: they define states in which an app can be
[12:15] <Sput> shadeslayer: looks like we found a volunteer who wants to look into writing a proper mobile UI for quassel
[12:15] <Sput> let's hope he's successful
[12:15] <shadeslayer> Sput: omg omg omg
[12:15] <shadeslayer> Sput: tell him .... he will be rewarded with magical cookies
[12:15] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: very handy stuff, see qstatemachine documentation, also gives a fair amount of info on statemachines in general
[12:15] <Sput> he's targetting the N900 for now, but porting to other Qt-capable devices shouldn't be that hard, if CMake can do it
[12:16] <shadeslayer> awww
[12:16] <shadeslayer> :(
[12:16] <apachelogger> Sput: qmake ftw
[12:16] <apachelogger> actually
[12:16] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ok thats an oxymoron 
[12:16] <shadeslayer> qmake and ftw cant exsist in the same sentence ...
[12:16] <apachelogger> Qt creator && qmake == awesome for mobile deloymen tshit
[12:16] <Sput> yeah
[12:16] <Sput> yeah
[12:16]  * shadeslayer needs some awesum music
[12:16] <Sput> now try and get all the KDE stuff into qmake
[12:16] <shadeslayer> also
[12:16] <apachelogger> Sput: well you are qt only anyway :P
[12:17] <shadeslayer> neon will break after KDE 4.6 release
[12:17] <apachelogger> I am not saying qmake is perfect
[12:17] <Sput> only for mobile :P
[12:17] <shadeslayer> for sure
[12:17] <Sput> I'm not going to maintain two buildsystems (again)
[12:17] <apachelogger> but it is for rapid xplatform deployments with qt
[12:17] <Sput> and I can't do KDE integration with qmake
[12:17] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: qmake is just buggy
[12:17] <apachelogger> it is the devs who do not know how to use it
[12:18] <apachelogger> and thus making for shitty qmake usage
[12:18] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: plz2teach me cmake and qmake
[12:18] <shadeslayer> also 
[12:18] <shadeslayer> i need to finish the make manual
[12:18] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: cmake... 
[12:18] <Sput> apachelogger: we used to have a qmake-based build system a few years ago, btw
[12:18] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: take a look at the phonon git master
[12:18] <apachelogger> CMakeLists.txt and cmake/PhononInternal.cmake
[12:18] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: you moved to kde git right?
[12:18] <apachelogger> if you understand that, move on to phonon-gst and inspect cmake/FindPhonon and CMakeLists.txt
[12:19] <apachelogger> if you understand all of that you can do anything in cmake
[12:19] <apachelogger> because that is a rather wicked systme
[12:19] <apachelogger> made up by a rather wicked person
[12:19] <shadeslayer> whats our status on Calligra btw?
[12:19] <apachelogger> Sput: I remember, it was shit :P
[12:19] <apachelogger> qmake does not scale very well IMHO
[12:19] <shadeslayer> we had a discussion on it iirc
[12:19] <Sput> yep, it was.
[12:20] <apachelogger> it is perfect for small stuff that is qtonly, as soon as you start using other libs etc. you will get a headache
[12:20] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: https://projects.kde.org/projects/kdesupport/phonon/phonon/repository/revisions/master/entry/CMakeLists.txt
[12:20] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: calligra is the new koffice, so we shall ship calligra
[12:20] <shadeslayer> thats the one you just said right?
[12:21] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: yes
[12:21] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: but i thought we were shipping libre office
[12:21] <shadeslayer> so much confusion
[12:21] <apachelogger> what should make you wondering now is that it is so small ;)
[12:21] <apachelogger> considering the might of phonon
[12:21] <shadeslayer> since libreoffice is the new open office
[12:21] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: well, in the archives I meant
[12:21] <shadeslayer> wait thats the WHOLE of it?
[12:21] <shadeslayer> :O
[12:21] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: oic
[12:21] <apachelogger> shipping we will be libreoffice or whatever it is called
[12:21] <apachelogger> lyberianoffice
[12:21] <apachelogger> lightoffice
[12:22] <apachelogger> something
[12:22] <shadeslayer> KLightOffice
[12:22] <shadeslayer> omg that would be win :P
[12:22] <apachelogger> lolz
[12:22] <shadeslayer> hmm
[12:22] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://textmate2.com/ << nice
[12:23]  * shadeslayer needs to learn either vim or emacs soonish
[12:23] <apachelogger> vim
[12:23] <apachelogger> emacs is going to be removed from archives
[12:23] <shadeslayer> 0_o
[12:24] <shadeslayer> Riddell will die
[12:24] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/549067/
[12:25] <shadeslayer> lawl
[12:25] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: hell for Riddell and #python
[12:25] <shadeslayer> we shall loose LP
[12:25] <apachelogger> hm
[12:25] <shadeslayer> omg LP will be written in Ruby
[12:25] <shadeslayer> or C++
[12:25] <shadeslayer> yayy
[12:25] <apachelogger> you say that is if loosing lp would be horrible
[12:25] <shadeslayer> no
[12:25] <shadeslayer> i meant
[12:26] <shadeslayer> yes! omg we will finally get a new LP
[12:26]  * apachelogger annoys sysadmins again
[12:26] <shadeslayer> written in ruby/C++
[12:26]  * shadeslayer scurries off to find ghns docs
[12:27] <apachelogger> eek
[12:27]  * apachelogger should triage phonon bugs
[12:29] <apachelogger> no ruphy!!!!!!!!!!
[12:29]  * apachelogger goes mad
[12:29]  * apachelogger sneezes into Nightrose's sleeve
[12:29] <Nightrose> dude!
[12:29] <Nightrose> gros!
[12:29] <Nightrose> :D
[12:30] <shadeslayer> Nightrose: you seem to be buried in snow 
[12:30] <apachelogger> Nightrose: seven drunken pirates, honey!
[12:30] <Nightrose> shadeslayer: kinda am yes
[12:30] <shadeslayer> from your dent/tweet
[12:30]  * apachelogger jumps through the channel
[12:30] <shadeslayer> Nightrose: come to india ... no snow ftw :P
[12:30] <Nightrose> shadeslayer: i might actually - in march
[12:30] <apachelogger> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOwCJV2C68w
[12:31] <shadeslayer> oh oh oh
[12:31] <shadeslayer> Nightrose: conf.kde.in?
[12:31] <apachelogger> \o/ \o/ \o/
[12:31] <apachelogger> AMAROK FTW!
[12:31] <Nightrose> shadeslayer: jep
[12:31] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: new amarok song ftw
[12:31] <shadeslayer> Nightrose: omg awesome ... we can meet then! :D
[12:31] <Nightrose> :)
[12:31] <apachelogger> on 1/10 days amarok comes up with at  least one good song
[12:31] <apachelogger> but those are really good
[12:32] <shadeslayer> apachelogger and lrn2use paste.kde.org!
[12:32] <shadeslayer> well 
[12:32] <shadeslayer> now 
[12:32] <shadeslayer> i should probably develop that plugin
[12:32]  * shadeslayer gets cracking on curl
[12:32] <apachelogger> lrn2use?
[12:32] <apachelogger> waht
[12:33] <shadeslayer> learn to use .... :P
[12:33] <shadeslayer> paste.kde.org has better theme
[12:33] <apachelogger> oh
[12:33] <apachelogger> well
[12:33] <apachelogger> I am not going to use pasteko for stuff that is you bun too
[12:34] <shadeslayer> oic
[12:34] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: does pasteko actually timeout pastes after some time?
[12:34] <apachelogger> seems a bit odd to keep them by default forever
[12:35] <shadeslayer> eh
[12:35] <shadeslayer> nope
[12:35] <shadeslayer> sayakb is working on it
[12:35] <shadeslayer> also
[12:35] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: curl --data "paste_data=1905&paste_lang=text"  http://paste.kde.org/api/xml isnt working for me
[12:35] <apachelogger> haha!
[12:35] <shadeslayer> erm
[12:35] <shadeslayer> whats wrong? :P
[12:36] <apachelogger> well
[12:36] <apachelogger> the xml api obviously wants xml data :P
[12:36] <apachelogger> what you sent is not xml
[12:36] <shadeslayer> oh
[12:36] <apachelogger> clearly
[12:36] <apachelogger> so
[12:36] <apachelogger> :P
[12:36] <shadeslayer> eep
[12:37] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: so the text file that i POST should be in XML/JSON ?
[12:37] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[12:38] <apachelogger> http://paste.kde.org/doc/api/#create
[12:39] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: oh, possibly only the replies are xml or json
[12:39] <shadeslayer> thats what i concluded from the API
[12:39] <apachelogger> which would be odd api design though
[12:39] <shadeslayer> but then you said
[12:39] <shadeslayer> i need to send the data in XML/JSON
[12:40] <shadeslayer> and i got all konfused
[12:40] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: well you are not sending a post anyway are you?
[12:40] <shadeslayer> er.. im not?
[12:40] <shadeslayer> i thought i was
[12:40] <apachelogger> looks like a get to me
[12:40] <shadeslayer> lemme try something else
[12:40] <apachelogger> (HTTP) Sends the specified data in a POST request  to  the  HTTP
[12:40] <apachelogger>               server,  in  the  same  way  that a browser does when a user has
[12:40] <apachelogger>               filled in an HTML form and presses the submit button.
[12:40] <apachelogger> ah
[12:40] <apachelogger> indeed
[12:41] <apachelogger> -d == --data
[12:41] <apachelogger> who would have known  :D
[12:41] <shadeslayer> yes
[12:41] <shadeslayer> i also tried -F
[12:42] <shadeslayer> hmmm wait i think i tried -F the wrong way
[12:42] <apachelogger> wireshark will know what to do ^^
[12:42] <shadeslayer> nope 
[12:43]  * shadeslayer has never used that 
[12:43] <shadeslayer> well a first time for everything
[12:43] <apachelogger> paste_user=b&paste_lang=text&paste_data=bsdf&paste_password=&paste_submit=Paste
[12:44] <shadeslayer> nope nothing
[12:44] <shadeslayer> *weirdness
[12:44] <apachelogger> sure
[12:44] <apachelogger> http://paste.kde.org/1511/
[12:45] <shadeslayer> 0_o
[12:45] <shadeslayer> you used -d?
[12:45] <apachelogger> yus
[12:45] <shadeslayer> i dont get anything as output
[12:45] <shadeslayer> ─[:)] % curl -d 'paste_user=b&paste_lang=text&paste_data=bsdf&paste_password=&paste_submit=Paste'  http://paste.kde.org/api/xml
[12:45] <shadeslayer> ╭─[~]─[shadeslayer@saphira]─[0]─[5904]
[12:45] <shadeslayer> ╰─[:)] %
[12:45] <apachelogger> no api
[12:46] <apachelogger> also you would need a special switch to get that :P
[12:46] <shadeslayer> wait... you just did a post to paste.kde.org?
[12:46] <apachelogger> yus
[12:46] <apachelogger> scru the api
[12:46] <shadeslayer> heh
[12:46] <apachelogger> it is misdesigned clearly
[12:47] <shadeslayer> special switch?
[12:47] <apachelogger> one should consider reinventing it
[12:47] <shadeslayer> yeah ill let sayak know its br0ken
[12:47] <apachelogger> by design!
[12:47] <apachelogger> make that clear :P
[12:47] <shadeslayer> ^_^
[12:47] <shadeslayer> sure
[12:47] <trichard> shadeslayer: you need to append a / after your url
[12:47] <shadeslayer> eeeee... New year wish Spam
[12:48] <shadeslayer> trichard: the API Url?
[12:48] <shadeslayer> oh yes
[12:48] <trichard> shadeslayer: yes, i do get a reply then :)
[12:48] <shadeslayer> it works now
[12:48] <shadeslayer> err_nothing_to_do
[12:48] <shadeslayer> lol
[12:48] <trichard> that's something atleast :)
[12:49] <shadeslayer> yeah
[12:49] <trichard> err_nothing_to_do - When no POST request was received by the create API
[12:49] <apachelogger> W
[12:49] <apachelogger> T
[12:49] <apachelogger> H
[12:49] <shadeslayer> yeah
[12:50] <apachelogger> contet-type: text/html
[12:50] <apachelogger> go fck yrself
[12:50] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: that api needs serious redoing
[12:50] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: tell that to sayak :P
[12:50] <apachelogger> not here
[12:51] <shadeslayer> yeah ... he comes in #kde-www i suppose
[12:53] <shadeslayer> everything is all sorts of wrong
[12:53] <shadeslayer> 0_o http://paste.ubuntu.com/549070
[12:54] <apachelogger> brokeneness
[12:54] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: also you should be using json anyway
[12:54] <shadeslayer> same thing :
[12:54] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: what are you hooking up with paste.kde.org anyway?
[12:54] <apachelogger> or trying to ^^
[12:54] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: pastebin plasmoid http://paste.ubuntu.com/549071
[12:54] <apachelogger> json it is
[12:55] <apachelogger> xml is nothing but trouble and if you write stuff in ecmascript you might as well use a more native format
[12:55] <shadeslayer> yeah ... it would be easier to parse with the dataengine as well
[12:55]  * apachelogger activates the coffee robot
[12:56] <shadeslayer> omg
[12:56] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: can it dcc some koffee over ?
[12:56] <apachelogger> oh
[12:56] <apachelogger> ohhh
[12:56] <apachelogger> now i understand the api
[12:56] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: no dcc in quassel
[12:56] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: make the bot irssi compatible?
[12:57] <apachelogger> what bot?
[12:57] <shadeslayer> coffee bot
[12:57] <apachelogger> oh
[12:57] <apachelogger> robot
[12:57] <shadeslayer> coffee ro-bot
[12:57]  * apachelogger thought irc bot ^^
[12:57] <apachelogger> oh
[12:57] <shadeslayer> well
[12:57] <apachelogger> actually
[12:57] <shadeslayer> no kubotu
[12:57] <shadeslayer> and its New year
[12:57]  * shadeslayer wants to snuggle with kubotu 
[12:57] <apachelogger> oh
[12:57] <apachelogger> you are a year ahead?
[12:58] <shadeslayer> no
[12:58] <apachelogger> india must be far away
[12:58] <shadeslayer> new year eve
[12:58] <apachelogger> anyhow
[12:58] <apachelogger> markey: how about a barista rbot
[12:58] <shadeslayer> another 5.5 hours to go
[12:58] <apachelogger> with nothing but a very sophisticated bar plugin
[12:58] <apachelogger> limited to all sorts of coffee magic
[12:58] <shadeslayer> lol
[12:58] <apachelogger> this would be super handy
[12:59] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: did you get the API to work?
[12:59] <apachelogger> no
[12:59] <apachelogger> what would be ultimately useful: examples :P
[12:59] <shadeslayer> lawl
[12:59] <apachelogger> otherwise the api makes sense I think
[12:59]  * apachelogger had too much to do with ubuntuone apis
[13:00] <apachelogger> no I think those do not make sense
[13:00] <apachelogger> *now
[13:00] <trichard> shadeslayer: when sending the post to http://paste.kde.org/ works :p you don't get a reply though
[13:00] <shadeslayer> trichard: yeah!
[13:00] <shadeslayer> thats what i did :P
[13:01] <apachelogger> trichard: you get a redirect url
[13:01] <apachelogger> see reply header
[13:02] <shadeslayer> trichard: whats the command your using?
[13:02] <trichard> apachelogger: indeed, i guess that's usable :)
[13:02] <apachelogger> that is how paste.ubuntu.com is done
[13:02] <trichard> curl -d "paste_data=testtext&paste_lang=c&paste_user=thomas&paste_password=&paste_submit=Paste" http://paste.kde.org/
[13:02] <apachelogger> which is the most reliable api there is ;)
[13:02] <apachelogger> since it is what the web interfaces use too ;)
[13:03] <trichard> jep
[13:04] <shadeslayer> trichard: apachelogger i dont get anything in the reply 0_o
[13:04] <shadeslayer> yet my paste is there
[13:04] <shadeslayer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/549078
[13:04] <trichard> it's in the http headers
[13:05] <shadeslayer> where
[13:05] <shadeslayer> theres no konsole output
[13:05] <apachelogger> dude
[13:05] <apachelogger> RTFM :P
[13:05] <apachelogger> -I
[13:07] <trichard> or -i :)
[13:07] <shadeslayer> ah
[13:07] <shadeslayer> you just use -v at the end
[13:08] <shadeslayer> kewl
[13:08] <shadeslayer> curl -d "paste_data=testtext&paste_lang=c&paste_user=thomas&paste_password=&paste_submit=Paste" http://paste.kde.org/ -v
[13:08] <apachelogger> -v is win
[13:08] <trichard> but still, strange that the XML/JSON api doesn't work :)
[13:08]  * shadeslayer goes to make a pastebin backend
[13:08] <apachelogger> hm
[13:08] <apachelogger> the API is broken
[13:08] <apachelogger> try getting an existing paste
[13:08] <apachelogger> 1512 for example
[13:08] <apachelogger> it only comes back with 302
[13:08] <apachelogger> but no data
[13:08] <apachelogger> < Content-Length: 0
[13:09] <apachelogger> oh
[13:09] <apachelogger> but it works in the browser
[13:09]  * apachelogger hates curl
[13:10] <apachelogger> oh
[13:10] <apachelogger> it also needs a / at the end
[13:11] <markey> Re
[13:11] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I think the parser stuff thing backing it up is a bit of a bugged beast
[13:11] <markey> In the car
[13:11] <apachelogger> markey: you had no intarwebs at ingo's but in the car? :O
[13:15]  * apachelogger kicks likeback
[13:15] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: btw, is the source available somewhere?
[13:15] <shadeslayer> source?
[13:15] <shadeslayer> of what?
[13:15] <shadeslayer> paste.kde.org
[13:15] <shadeslayer> its probably in git
[13:15] <apachelogger> yus
[13:15]  * apachelogger wiats for shadeslayer to look it up
[13:16] <shadeslayer> yeah doing that :)
[13:16] <trichard> "we have the control over the source, soon to go into git.kde.org" from the blogpost monday
[13:16] <shadeslayer> nope .. 
[13:17]  * shadeslayer will be after sayakb's head
[13:18] <apachelogger> pfff
[13:21] <shadeslayer> now .. how do i install this :P
[13:21] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: what?
[13:21] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: the p.k.o backend i just made
[13:22] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[13:22] <apachelogger> place it where the others are :P
[13:22] <shadeslayer> dunno where the others are :P
[13:22] <shadeslayer> i tried locate. ... nothing came up
[13:22] <apachelogger> slocate them then
[13:22] <apachelogger> hm
[13:22] <apachelogger> you are not good at locating clearly :P
[13:23] <shadeslayer> ah found them :P
[13:23] <apachelogger> /usr/share/kde4/apps/plasma/shareprovider/
[13:23] <shadeslayer> yep
[13:26] <shadeslayer> 0_o ... no such entry
[13:26] <shadeslayer> no entry for paste.kde.org
[13:26] <apachelogger> :D :D :D :D
[13:27] <apachelogger> markey: with new phonon kio improvements last.fm now works in gstreamer ;)
[13:27] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: kbuildsycoca
[13:27] <apachelogger> +4
[13:27] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: did that
[13:27] <apachelogger> and probably ou need to restart the plasma
[13:27] <shadeslayer> oh
[13:28] <shadeslayer> nopety nope
[13:28] <apachelogger> then it is bugged
[13:28] <markey> re
[13:28] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/549084 << metadata.desktop
[13:29] <markey> sorry, it was the wrong channel
[13:29] <markey> stupid android irc client
[13:29] <markey> on lappie now
[13:29] <shadeslayer> markey: andchat? :P
[13:29] <apachelogger> I have yet to see a sensbile mobile irc client in general
[13:29] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: what is with the names? ::S:SS:
[13:30] <shadeslayer> names?
[13:30] <shadeslayer> whats wrong?
[13:30] <shadeslayer> remove the other languages?
[13:30] <apachelogger> well
[13:30] <apachelogger> yes
[13:30] <apachelogger> unless you speak all of them :P
[13:31]  * apachelogger notes that devs never ever should provide translations anyway
[13:31] <apachelogger> unless they are translators
[13:31] <apachelogger> even then they should do it on the translators side of things and not within the codebase
[13:33] <shadeslayer> lol plasmoidviewer(8707)/libplasma Plasma::ContainmentPrivate::addAppletActions: boo yah, adding it! true true
[13:33] <shadeslayer> still no luch
[13:33] <shadeslayer> luck
[13:33] <shadeslayer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/549089
[13:33] <markey> shadeslayer: yep
[13:34] <shadeslayer> markey: which phone?
[13:34] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: what does your dir structure look like and stuff?
[13:34] <apachelogger> and magic
[13:34] <apachelogger> and unicorns
[13:34] <apachelogger> and sparkles
[13:34] <apachelogger> and thunder
[13:34] <apachelogger> and windows
[13:34] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: /usr/share/kde4/apps/plasma/shareprovider/pastekdeorg/contents/code/
[13:34] <shadeslayer> and that folder has main.js
[13:34] <shadeslayer> /usr/share/kde4/apps/plasma/shareprovider/pastekdeorg/ has metadata.desktop
[13:35] <apachelogger> maybe it needs some other crap too
[13:35] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://pastebin.com/WqBbBUKT
[13:36] <apachelogger> oh
[13:36] <trichard> can't you just use plasmoidviewer to test plasmoids?
[13:36] <apachelogger> <3 plasma
[13:36] <apachelogger> you need another desktop file
[13:36] <apachelogger> see /usr/share/kde4/services/plasma-dataengine-share-addon-pasteubuntucom.desktop
[13:39] <shadeslayer> soo slow
[13:40] <shadeslayer> kate is eating my CPU
[13:40] <shadeslayer> chomp chomp chomp
[13:41] <shadeslayer> now its virtuoso
[13:41] <trichard> buy an i7, that does it all at once :p
[13:42] <ulysses> :D
[13:42] <shadeslayer> trichard: please to send me moniez :P
[13:42] <trichard> shadeslayer: hehe, i can send you pictures of mine :p
[13:42]  * shadeslayer was oggling at a MBP the other day
[13:43] <shadeslayer> *drool
[13:43] <shadeslayer> *drool*
[13:43] <shadeslayer> \o/
[13:43] <shadeslayer> lets see if it works
[13:44] <shadeslayer> nope
[13:44] <trichard> :p
[13:45] <shadeslayer> http://pastebin.com/XJ3pvj4T
[13:45] <shadeslayer> what am i missing
[13:48] <trichard> shadeslayer: what does this do? contentKey ?
[13:48] <shadeslayer> thats what i was thinking ;P
[13:48]  * shadeslayer removes
[13:48] <trichard> shouldn't that be paste_data ?
[13:49] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/1531
[13:49] <shadeslayer> \o/
[13:49] <shadeslayer> omg
[13:49] <shadeslayer> yayy
[13:49] <shadeslayer> w00t
[13:50] <trichard> nice ;)
[13:50] <shadeslayer> *look_of_satisfaction*
[13:50] <trichard> did you change it to paste_data?
[13:50] <shadeslayer> yes
[13:50] <shadeslayer> now i have no idea how to get it up onto kde-look :P
[13:50] <trichard> just push it in kde's svn :p
[13:51] <shadeslayer> lol
[13:51] <shadeslayer> well
[13:51] <shadeslayer> im not using the API
[13:51] <shadeslayer> so
[13:51] <shadeslayer> im scared :P
[13:52] <trichard> well, a broken API can't be used
[13:52] <shadeslayer> yep
[13:52] <shadeslayer> im explaining it to them at kde-devel
[13:53] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: lolwut @ mail
[13:54] <shadeslayer> trichard: so pinotree said no
[13:55] <trichard> shadeslayer: i saw. but this is the way every pastebin backend works? You got it from the pastebin.com backend, right?
[13:55] <trichard> dataengine* or whateven :)
[13:55] <shadeslayer> yep ... so they consolidated stuff to dataengines and JS
[13:58] <starcraftman> someone got time for a question? Taking qtcreator for a spin and getting this error only when trying to debug: &"warning: GDB: Failed to set controlling terminal: Invalid argument\n"
[14:00] <starcraftman> did some googling but I'm getting conflicting information ><.
[14:02] <shadeslayer> starcraftman: possibly try via gdb in the terminal?
[14:05] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: what mail?
[14:07] <starcraftman> shadeslayer: well, does seem to be fine but that's pretty bad. Using it either from eclipse or qtcreate seems to cause errors :/. 
[14:08] <shadeslayer> now onto rekonq
[14:08] <shadeslayer> starcraftman: no idea sorry
[14:08] <shadeslayer> possibly ask in #qtcreator?
[14:09] <apachelogger> qtcreator \o/
[14:10] <starcraftman> guess so.
[14:12] <shadeslayer> weird ... its quite outside
[14:12] <shadeslayer> no parties
[14:12] <shadeslayer> no loud music
[14:12] <shadeslayer> people here are boring
[14:12] <shadeslayer> :|
[14:13]  * apachelogger will be too
[14:13] <apachelogger> I am not in a partying mood
[14:13] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: so im sending http://paste.kde.org/1534/ to kde-www
[14:13] <shadeslayer> do you think i should add any other command outputs?
[14:14] <apachelogger> also apparently everyone got invited to some party, except me :(
[14:14] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: lets party here
[14:14] <apachelogger> there you have it, apachelogger is mean to everyone and then does not get to attend parties so he can stay in on new years night and do work
[14:15] <apachelogger> yay
[14:15] <apachelogger> so
[14:15] <apachelogger> actually I have access to radio amarok's icecast again
[14:15] <apachelogger> but it is a bit of a mess because when I retired from amarok the setup was made to work as master for a bunch of relays
[14:16] <apachelogger> sort of preparing for going large public and stuff
[14:16] <apachelogger> so I would need to rip the configs apart to make it working agin
[14:16] <apachelogger> which is silly work
[14:16] <apachelogger> also I do not have an icecast client anyway
[14:18] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: dude .... any idea how to make kwebwallet store launchpad passwords? like ... rekonq does not seem to be able to store them
[14:18] <shadeslayer> and afaik theyre passed over to kwebwallet
[14:18] <apachelogger> sure
[14:18] <apachelogger> fix launchpad
[14:18] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: chrome can store them :>
[14:18] <shadeslayer> so i think its a kwebwallet issue
[14:18] <apachelogger> yeah, because it is iterating to find a password I suppose
[14:19] <apachelogger> standard wallet lookups are precise for the url
[14:19] <apachelogger> which of course fails
[14:19]  * apachelogger already explaind this to shadeslayer once :P
[14:19] <shadeslayer> erm ... yes i got that aprt
[14:19] <shadeslayer> *part
[14:19] <shadeslayer> but ... can we not do a regex based match?
[14:19] <apachelogger> probably not
[14:19] <shadeslayer> so like anything that redirects to login.launchpad.net/* gets login and password
[14:20] <shadeslayer> :(
[14:20] <apachelogger> that is foobar
[14:20]  * shadeslayer has like 30 LP entries in kwallet
[14:20] <apachelogger> some sites have different logins on different urls
[14:20] <apachelogger> like foobar.com/wiki foobar.com/forum
[14:20] <apachelogger> there is no indication that those would be the same login data
[14:20] <shadeslayer> hmm
[14:20] <apachelogger> so you would have to look for /wiki and iff that fails try foobar.com/
[14:21] <apachelogger> you cannot do regex
[14:21] <apachelogger> as that would make /forum appear with credentials from /wiki
[14:21] <apachelogger> which is bogus
[14:21] <shadeslayer> aye
[14:22] <shadeslayer> next order of business in rekonq ... smaller spinners
[14:27]  * apachelogger plans on becoming a vampire tonight
[14:27]  * ulysses plans to be drunk tonight
[14:27]  * apachelogger does not even have no alcohol
[14:28] <ScottK> apachelogger: Could be.
[14:33] <apachelogger> anyone seen tron legacy yet?
[14:33] <tsimpson> yes :)
[14:34] <apachelogger> tsimpson: is it any good?
[14:34] <tsimpson> it's not the best film in the world, but it's entertaining
[14:34] <apachelogger> fair enough
[14:35] <tsimpson> and the geek in me finds it funny that the grid runs on SolarOS :)
[14:35] <shadeslayer> tsimpson: is it based on darwin?
[14:35] <ulysses> apachelogger: I saw it yesterday
[14:36] <tsimpson> shadeslayer: they had a shot with "uname -a", I just noticed it was SolarOS on an i386
[14:36] <shadeslayer> awww
[14:36] <tsimpson> they even had top running in the background of the shot
[14:36] <ulysses> there was a ps also somewhere
[14:36] <shadeslayer> anyways
[14:36] <ulysses> oh, and Sam used the whoami!
[14:37] <shadeslayer> linuxinmovies++
[14:37] <tsimpson> oh and a line "vi last_will_and_testament.txt" :D
[14:37] <ulysses> SolarOS is maybe a SunOS 4.11 or something like
[14:37] <tsimpson> it did have "sun" in there somewhere
[14:38] <shadeslayer> oh oh 
[14:38] <shadeslayer> OHHHHHH
[14:38] <shadeslayer> i have to fix qt language selector
[14:42] <apachelogger> hm
[14:42] <apachelogger> solomon kane
[14:43] <apachelogger> this looks like lord of the rings meets van helsing :D :D
[14:52]  * shadeslayer is hungry
[14:52] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: where is the food
[15:03] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: do you know what this means : http://code.google.com/apis/documents/docs/3.0/developers_guide_protocol.html#SearchingDocs
[15:03] <shadeslayer> :>
[15:03] <shadeslayer> bookmark import from gmail :D
[15:03] <shadeslayer> well ... google docs to be precise
[15:03]  * shadeslayer is *very* hungry
[15:04] <apachelogger> ololo
[15:04] <apachelogger> shadeslayer:  it means you are looking at old docs
[15:04] <apachelogger> dunno
[15:04]  * apachelogger is very tired today
[15:04] <shadeslayer> well could be old API ... dunno
[15:04] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: but its New years eve
[15:04] <shadeslayer> how can you be tired
[15:04] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: your getting old like ScottK
[15:04] <apachelogger> bookmarks are now stored in gdata AFAIK
[15:05] <shadeslayer> hmm lemme check that
[15:05] <apachelogger> not sure if that is synced with the regular bookmarks
[15:05] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: becuase of the getting old I am planning on becoming a vampire
[15:05] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: so, what about htat api?
[15:05] <shadeslayer> htat api?
[15:05] <shadeslayer> whuz that
[15:06] <shadeslayer> im just starting on this
[15:06] <apachelogger> that api
[15:06] <shadeslayer> oh
[15:06] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you asked what it means, and I ask what what means as it is obvious what it means form the title and descriptions
[15:07] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: no i meant... you know what this means .... bookmark imports :P
[15:07] <apachelogger> I do not see where this is written
[15:07] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: well ... i can retrieve a list of docs from a particular folder 
[15:08] <shadeslayer> and bookmarks are stored in google docs -> Bookmarks/*
[15:08] <apachelogger> yus
[15:08] <apachelogger> ah
[15:08] <apachelogger> the api you look at is part of gdata ^^
[15:08] <shadeslayer> ah
[15:08] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: well, it is a bit of a stinky thingy, because IIRC you would need to implement authentication
[15:08] <shadeslayer> so .. theoretically ... its possible
[15:08] <apachelogger> yes
[15:08] <apachelogger> BUT
[15:09] <shadeslayer> but but but .... google uses OAuth doesnt it
[15:09] <apachelogger> there is no complete gdata impl for c++ or qt
[15:09] <apachelogger> not even for C I think
[15:09] <shadeslayer> whats that API for then?
[15:09] <shadeslayer> Java?
[15:09] <shadeslayer> :P
[15:09] <apachelogger> yes
[15:09] <shadeslayer> oh crap
[15:09] <apachelogger> and pyth0rn
[15:09] <apachelogger> php
[15:09]  * shadeslayer cries
[15:09] <apachelogger> well
[15:09] <apachelogger> no
[15:09] <apachelogger> the API is a restful one
[15:09] <apachelogger> you can generally implement interfaces in every language
[15:09] <shadeslayer> maybe use Jambi + Qt
[15:10] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: that does not help
[15:10] <apachelogger> jambi only works in on direction
[15:10] <apachelogger> what you needed is access from Qt to java
[15:10] <shadeslayer> didnt know that
[15:10] <apachelogger> which is generally possible
[15:10] <shadeslayer> hmmm
[15:10] <apachelogger> but quite frankly implementing gdata in qt is probably easier and more maintainable ;)
[15:11] <apachelogger> the thing is just that gdata is enourmous
[15:11] <apachelogger> the java api has some hundred class IIRC
[15:11] <shadeslayer> ginormus 
[15:11] <apachelogger> then again java is made out of a class that is reimplemented in a class which was then copied to another class  so there were classes
[15:11] <shadeslayer> Quintasan_: so were bumping off lucid from neon?
[15:12] <shadeslayer> glib magic and awesomeness 
[15:12] <apachelogger> I do not know how java managed to do it but in the beginnig there was a class
[15:12] <shadeslayer> extends!
[15:12] <shadeslayer> :P
[15:12] <apachelogger> there is also another thing
[15:12] <shadeslayer> that is pretty much the only thing i know in java
[15:12] <apachelogger> I cant remember its name
[15:12] <shadeslayer> extends ...
[15:12] <apachelogger> no
[15:12] <apachelogger> it means almost the same as extends
[15:12] <apachelogger> englishwise
[15:13] <apachelogger> but what it actually does I do not know
[15:13] <apachelogger> anyhow
[15:13] <ScottK> Riddell: skanlite is waiting in bianry New when you have a moment.
[15:13] <apachelogger> in the beginning there was a class
[15:14] <apachelogger> now the class was empty and not very useful, and a jar was hovering over the class
[15:14] <apachelogger> and the jar said, "let there be a class", and there was a class
[15:14] <apachelogger> the jar saw that the class was good and it separated teh class from the class
[15:15] <shadeslayer> Riddell: who did you say i should talk to regarding language selector?
[15:15] <apachelogger> the jar called the class foo and the class it called bar
[15:15] <apachelogger> and there was extends and there was this other thing I cant remember the name of
[15:15] <apachelogger> and the jar said "let there be another class between the class and the class"
[15:16] <apachelogger> so the jar made a class and seperated teh class under the class from the class above it. and it was so. the jar called teh class "otherFooThingBarClassExtendedByFooAndBar"
[15:16] <shadeslayer> dammit .... i keep searching for the voice button on my keyboard for speech to text conversion
[15:16] <apachelogger> and there was class and there was class - the second compile
[15:16]  * apachelogger needs to blog this
[15:17] <apachelogger> also I will add a nice santa hat
[15:17] <shadeslayer> lol
[15:17] <apachelogger> so that I can piss off everyone
[15:17] <apachelogger> like VLC does
[15:17] <apachelogger> I love it
[15:17] <shadeslayer> nice 'red' hat
[15:17] <shadeslayer> :>
[15:17] <shadeslayer> anyhow 
[15:18] <shadeslayer> cya ... dinner calls
[15:18] <yofel> hm, is that 'install more languages' button only greyed out for me or for everyone? http://yofel.dyndns.org/pics/ext/lang.png
[15:18] <shadeslayer> yofel: likewise here
[15:19] <yofel> odd
[15:19] <shadeslayer> probably the auth mechanism failing or something
[15:19] <shadeslayer> polkit maybe?
[15:19] <shadeslayer> yofel: check in neon :>
[15:19] <yofel> could be, is broken in maverick and natty with 4.6
[15:20] <shadeslayer> bye
[15:23] <trichard> apachelogger, shadeslayer: implements ;)
[15:35] <apachelogger> who implements?
[15:35] <apachelogger> and where?
[15:35] <apachelogger> and what?
[15:35] <apachelogger> and why?
[15:35] <apachelogger> and when?
[15:36] <apachelogger> and how?
[15:36] <apachelogger> and ... out of words
[15:36] <Daskreech> whence?
[15:38] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: so looking at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/natty/language-selector/natty/annotate/head:/qt-language-selector
[15:38] <shadeslayer> i cant understand how to convert that to C++
[15:38] <shadeslayer> like .... all the vars will be in python
[15:38] <shadeslayer> how do i interface with pyth0rn
[15:39] <apachelogger> wah?
[15:39] <apachelogger> why do you interface with python?
[15:40] <apachelogger> I do not quite follow you my friend
[15:40] <apachelogger> the idea would be to rewrite it in c++qt
[15:40] <apachelogger> and get rid of the pyth0rn
[15:40] <apachelogger> I suppose
[15:40] <apachelogger> as tier 1 target is to remove pyth0rn and replace it with java
[15:40] <apachelogger> oh, supposedly you could write it using jambi or whats it called
[15:40] <Daskreech> Or D
[15:40] <apachelogger> no D
[15:40] <apachelogger> 1!!!
[15:40] <shadeslayer> yes ... but what about python function calls?
[15:40] <apachelogger> objective C or java
[15:41] <apachelogger> otherwise you are standing in the way of Kubuntu2
[15:41] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: reimplement them in C++
[15:41] <shadeslayer> oh boi
[15:41] <apachelogger> the underlying backend is crap and unmaintained and stuff
[15:41] <shadeslayer> why did they use python
[15:41] <shadeslayer> why
[15:41] <shadeslayer> whai
[15:41] <apachelogger> so that we can implement it in java
[15:41] <apachelogger> and pwn their pyth0rn codes
[15:41] <apachelogger> muahahhahaha
[15:41] <shadeslayer> hmm
[15:43]  * shadeslayer needs to start fresh on this ... not something to do right now
[15:44] <shadeslayer> lol https://bugs.kde.org/docs/html/query.html
[15:44] <Daskreech> Grrrr
[15:45]  * Daskreech goes to read debian packaging tuts
[15:45] <shadeslayer> oh boi oh boi
[15:45] <shadeslayer> mgraesslin: pingly
[15:45] <mgraesslin> shadeslayer: pong
[15:45] <shadeslayer> mgraesslin: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=256735 << looks like kwin crashed
[15:45] <Daskreech> Keep making this package and it keeps having just the config files in the final package
[15:46] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: fix0r install files
[15:46] <shadeslayer> mgraesslin: i dont see anything rekonq related there
[15:46] <mgraesslin> shadeslayer: users tend to report bug reports like that
[15:47] <shadeslayer> yes, but just wanted to confirm :)
[15:47] <shadeslayer> ill change it to kwin 
[15:47] <mgraesslin> it is kwin
[15:47] <mgraesslin> product: kwin
[15:47] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: that's what I'm trying to figure out. which install files are Fck0red 
[15:47] <shadeslayer> :)
[15:48] <shadeslayer> the component is already kwin :P
[15:49] <shadeslayer> dunno about kde bug 243248
[15:49] <shadeslayer> in raise () from /lib/libc.so.6
[15:50] <shadeslayer> mgraesslin: is there a feature that i can use to list all rekonq bugs?
[15:50] <mgraesslin> search for the product
[15:50] <mgraesslin> that's what I do with kwin
[15:50] <shadeslayer> where
[15:51]  * shadeslayer doesnt know kde bugzilla well
[15:51] <mgraesslin> advanced search
[15:51] <shadeslayer> ok lets see
[15:51] <shadeslayer> ah
[15:55] <shadeslayer> mgraesslin: kde bug 242497 << any idea if kwin can help do that?
[15:55] <shadeslayer> ( iirc we discussed this on the bus :P )
[15:55] <mgraesslin> yeah we did and in fact I have quite some ideas for kwin+browsers
[15:56] <mgraesslin> I don't think window tabbing is the perfect solution for it
[15:56] <shadeslayer> mgraesslin: http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/rekonq/2010-December/002167.html
[15:56] <shadeslayer> come to the meeting :)
[15:57] <mgraesslin> just ping me some time before
[15:58] <shadeslayer> mgraesslin: the date hasnt been decided, just add yourself to the doodle and we will choose the most appropriate date when all people can attend
[15:58] <shadeslayer> oh oh
[15:58] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: poke ... do you have any idea how to fix the full screen bug in rekonq?
[15:59] <shadeslayer> what could be the issue and how do i check?
[15:59] <apachelogger>  I am a movie
[15:59] <apachelogger> what bug
[15:59] <apachelogger> is there a bug in rekonq?
[15:59] <shadeslayer> your a movie?
[15:59] <shadeslayer> :P
[15:59] <apachelogger> look me
[15:59] <apachelogger> I am movie
[16:00] <shadeslayer> apachelogger the movie
[16:00] <shadeslayer> hmmm
[16:00] <shadeslayer> apachelogger the anime
[16:00] <shadeslayer> apachelogger the manga
[16:01]  * apachelogger appoints shadeslayer the guy in charge of the apachelogger franchise
[16:01] <shadeslayer> great :D
[16:01]  * shadeslayer sells apachelogger
[16:01] <shadeslayer> for a kazillion euros
[16:02] <Daskreech> apachelogger: the straight to BluRay Extranaganza
[16:02] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I want me in the cinemas by 2012
[16:02] <apachelogger> doable?
[16:02] <shadeslayer> well
[16:02] <shadeslayer> i thought the world ends in 2010
[16:02] <shadeslayer> erm
[16:02] <shadeslayer> 2012
[16:04]  * Daskreech whispers to shadeslayer. The movie is the catalyst that starts it
[16:04] <shadeslayer> ah
[16:04] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: before they and
[16:04] <apachelogger> they shall see the true face of evil
[16:04]  * shadeslayer starts preparing his spaceship
[16:05] <shadeslayer> a 'Qt' spaceship
[16:05] <shadeslayer> also
[16:05] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: will you win those 10K euros?
[16:05] <shadeslayer> from what ive heard there are only 10 entries in
[16:05] <apachelogger> no
[16:05]  * apachelogger does not take part in contests
[16:05] <apachelogger> well
[16:06] <apachelogger> unless something happens to be at hand that could be submitted
[16:16] <Daskreech> apachelogger: I was thinking more that to ensure that no movie will ever claim afterwards to be better they will implode all movies and things that could be used to make them
[16:17] <Daskreech> which may mean that darkmatter and Windows may survive
[16:17] <Daskreech> and probably the Iphone
[16:17] <apachelogger> there cannot be a movie better than one about darkness itself
[16:24] <shadeslayer> agateau: around? any ideas why gwenview zooms into the picture when i press the next arrow key?
[16:24]  * shadeslayer starts zsync's for formats
[16:28]  * shadeslayer wonders what to do ...
[16:31] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: funny thing ... kwebwallet knows how to handle gmail urls ... even gmail has hashes
[16:35] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: not for the login url, does it?
[16:35] <shadeslayer> login url?
[16:35] <apachelogger> where you enter the data
[16:35] <shadeslayer> like .. i open gmail.com and there are my credentials
[16:36] <shadeslayer> dunno ... i suppose it stores them from gmail.com?
[16:36] <apachelogger> it stores them at the url you entered them
[16:37] <shadeslayer> stores them for https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin
[16:37] <shadeslayer> hmm
[16:53] <ScottK> Now that libwpd is 0.2, we'll need to disable wpd support in koffice as it doesn't support the newer lib.
[17:02] <shadeslayer> interesting ... i scaled down the gif for rekonq's new tab page animation and its stuttering
[17:02] <shadeslayer> :S
[17:03] <shadeslayer> renders fine in gwenview
[17:03] <shadeslayer> has white bars at the bottom
[17:10] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: around?
[17:11] <shadeslayer> sheytan: oh hey!!!
[17:11] <shadeslayer> sheytan: http://i.imgur.com/wcREc.gif << can you resize this without losing the quality?
[17:12] <shadeslayer> or give me a better busywidget than that?
[17:15] <shadeslayer> oh nvm :)
[17:20] <shadeslayer> oh oh 
[17:20] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://i.imgur.com/U2FoK.png
[17:21] <shadeslayer> look at that
[17:22] <apachelogger> pr0n?
[17:22]  * apachelogger ponders going to a local irish pub
[17:22] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: what is it?
[17:23] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: notice the different loading bar?
[17:23] <apachelogger> yeah, it is not oxygen
[17:24] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: does that actual go anywhere?
[17:24] <apachelogger> otherwise the bar is a bad idea I suppose
[17:24] <apachelogger> sort of paradigm breaking, which eventually lead to the invention of the circle thingies
[17:24] <shadeslayer> go somewhere?
[17:24] <apachelogger> well
[17:25] <apachelogger> does it go from left to right
[17:25] <apachelogger> i.e. amount of progress
[17:25] <shadeslayer> and?
[17:25] <apachelogger> or does it just go left right left right
[17:25] <apachelogger> or maybe like those silly poles in front of american barber shops?
[17:25] <apachelogger> I imagine those strips could make for such an effect
[17:25] <apachelogger> anyhow
[17:26] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: my point being that they do not look oxygen
[17:26] <apachelogger> (aka do not fit in with the KDE default appearance)
[17:26] <shadeslayer> hmmm
[17:27] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: how do i get this under oxygen :P
[17:27] <apachelogger> I do not know what this is
[17:27] <shadeslayer> its a gif
[17:27] <apachelogger> I do not know what this does
[17:28] <shadeslayer> http://i.imgur.com/mTnu5.png << new updated version
[17:28]  * shadeslayer dents the image 
[17:30] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: whats the kde artwork channel btw?
[17:30]  * shadeslayer cant remeber
[17:30] <apachelogger> #oxygen
[17:30] <shadeslayer> *remember
[17:30] <shadeslayer> ah
[17:30] <Daskreech> #oxygen ?
[17:31] <shadeslayer> also ... 1 hour to new year! \o/
[17:31] <Daskreech> 12 hours here
[17:31] <apachelogger> your clock is off
[17:31] <shadeslayer> i live in the future
[17:31] <shadeslayer> muwhahahaha
[17:31] <apachelogger> you indians are all weird
[17:32] <apachelogger> so, do I go get wasted with guinness or not?
[17:32] <Daskreech> nope
[17:32] <apachelogger> as usual I canont make up my mind
[17:32] <Daskreech> get wasted with Sherry
[17:32] <apachelogger> also an option
[17:32] <apachelogger> lets make this a general thing
[17:32] <apachelogger> do I get wasted at a pub or not?
[17:32] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: no
[17:33] <apachelogger> or do I stay in and go to bed
[17:33] <apachelogger> and then wave my fist at austria as it goes to war against 2010
[17:33] <apachelogger> oh how I hate them fireworks
[17:33] <apachelogger> and I hate it even more that they start dec 27 and end jan 3
[17:33] <apachelogger> constant annoyance
[17:34] <apachelogger> Nightrose: do we get fireworks at the freedesktop conference thing?
[17:34] <apachelogger> oh
[17:35] <apachelogger> no Nightrose :(
[17:35] <apachelogger> probably out getting wasted in a pub...
[17:35] <apachelogger> without me
[17:35] <apachelogger> ...
[17:36] <Daskreech> ok fine go after her :)
[17:36] <apachelogger> I shall do no such thing!
[17:38] <apachelogger> "lets go rescue the orphan gears dude!"
[18:04] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://i.imgur.com/WZic7.png
[18:04] <shadeslayer> 30 mins to new year \o/
[18:04] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: love it
[18:05] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: this one is better?
[18:05] <apachelogger> aye
[18:05] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: do you see the small white bars below the spinner?
[18:05] <apachelogger> no
[18:05] <shadeslayer> see carefully :P
[18:05] <shadeslayer> just below the spinner
[18:05] <apachelogger> ah yes
[18:06] <apachelogger> one px
[18:06] <shadeslayer> aye
[18:06] <apachelogger> who did that get there?
[18:06] <shadeslayer> dunno
[18:06] <shadeslayer> cant figure out how to fix
[18:07] <shadeslayer> agateau: http://i.imgur.com/WZic7.png  << or >> http://i.imgur.com/mTnu5.png  ... which one do you like? since you requested it to be changed :D
[18:12] <apachelogger> pub or no pub is the question
[18:12] <shadeslayer> pub!
[18:12] <shadeslayer> no pub!
[18:13] <apachelogger> going to the pub on my own kinda sux
[18:13] <apachelogger> also it is flipping cold
[18:13] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: make up your mind
[18:13] <shadeslayer> :P
[18:14]  * shadeslayer had loads of fun today
[18:14] <shadeslayer> loads of cake
[18:14] <apachelogger> I am not good at this
[18:14] <shadeslayer> loads of pizza
[18:14] <shadeslayer> fun
[18:14] <shadeslayer> i think were the only 2 people here
[18:14] <ScottK> apachelogger: You are Austrian.  You mush relish the cold.  I believe it's required.
[18:14] <shadeslayer> oh
[18:14] <ScottK> mush/must
[18:14] <shadeslayer> Scott's here too :D
[18:15] <shadeslayer> ScottK: you too ... which is better ? : http://i.imgur.com/WZic7.png http://i.imgur.com/mTnu5.png
[18:15] <apachelogger> I am actually extraterrestrial
[18:15] <apachelogger> and on my home planet there does not exist the concept of weather
[18:15] <apachelogger> which is absolutely fine by me
[18:15] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: lol someone suggested the bar be wrapped up into a circle
[18:15] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: you need a spaceship
[18:15] <apachelogger> also if I am to become vampire tonight that will autoresolve anyway
[18:15] <apachelogger> oh
[18:15] <ScottK> shadeslayer: You're toalking about the difference between the progress thingies?
[18:15] <apachelogger> there is a fatal flaw in the plan
[18:16] <ScottK> toalk/talk
[18:16] <shadeslayer> ScottK: yus
[18:16] <apachelogger> if I do not go to a pub it is rather unlikely to meet a vampire to turn me
[18:16] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Make it fast enough we don't care.
[18:16] <apachelogger> oh dear oh dear
[18:16] <shadeslayer> ScottK: its fast enough :P
[18:16] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I have a spaceship
[18:16] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: :O
[18:16] <apachelogger> built it myself
[18:16] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: you came to the US in the spaceship?
[18:16] <apachelogger> I sort of crash landed the other one
[18:16] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Last time I tried it, it was deathly slow on those.  Made me want to switch back to Chromium, which I did.
[18:17] <ScottK> shadeslayer: If it's fast enough, it doesn't matter.
[18:17] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: no, I only finished it after UDS
[18:17] <shadeslayer> ScottK: i know ... i just wish i knew how to use webkit 2
[18:17] <shadeslayer> then i could make it faster
[18:17] <apachelogger> have been working on it the last 14 years
[18:17] <shadeslayer> oh oh 
[18:17] <apachelogger> i.e. since the age of 4
[18:17] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: is it pink?
[18:18] <apachelogger> er
[18:18] <apachelogger> 5
[18:18]  * apachelogger has a 10 second lag
[18:18] <apachelogger> wow
[18:18] <apachelogger> awesome
[18:18] <shadeslayer> 0_o
[18:18] <shadeslayer> the interwebz is crashing
[18:18] <shadeslayer> everyone hide
[18:18] <apachelogger> must be all the pr0n
[18:18] <ScottK> Only in 2011.  In 2010 it's fine.
[18:18] <apachelogger> I knew that this woudl become the downfall of our socity
[18:18] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: or the pyth0rn
[18:18] <apachelogger> oh looks
[18:19] <apachelogger> its the typ0rs
[18:19] <shadeslayer> ScottK: loads of stuff happened due to gci tho .... and now im full steam ahead on this stuff
[18:19]  * shadeslayer tries to improve html5 score
[18:22] <shadeslayer> oooh
[18:22] <shadeslayer> WebGraphicsView
[18:22] <shadeslayer> that is epic
[18:23]  * shadeslayer tries to make a demo test
[18:23] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: please to help with this
[18:23] <apachelogger> with what
[18:23]  * apachelogger googles to find a vampire
[18:23] <shadeslayer> QGWV browser
[18:23] <shadeslayer> id like to make a test case
[18:24] <shadeslayer> wow
[18:28] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: have you heard of QGraphicsViewWebView?
[18:28] <shadeslayer> 2 mins!!!
[18:28] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[18:28] <apachelogger> possibly
[18:28] <apachelogger> as I was digging around in qtwebkit some time ago
[18:28] <shadeslayer> any ideas how much performance gain it offers?
[18:29] <apachelogger> compared to what?
[18:29] <shadeslayer> to QWebPage
[18:29] <shadeslayer> or kdewebkit
[18:29] <apachelogger> are they even doing the same thing?
[18:29] <apachelogger> at any rate the performance gain would be marginal
[18:30] <shadeslayer> \o/ New year!!!!!
[18:30] <apachelogger> as the expensive things are done by webkit/qtscript
[18:30] <apachelogger> happy new year shadeslayer
[18:30] <shadeslayer> wheee
[18:30]  * Daskreech starts running in the direction of the sun to keep this year as long as possible
[18:31]  * apachelogger is getting depressed
[18:33] <Daskreech> pub!
[18:35] <apachelogger> ah
[18:35] <apachelogger> I dunno
[18:36] <shadeslayer> lol
[18:36] <shadeslayer> freenode is under attack :P
[18:36] <shadeslayer> from those pesky bots again
[18:43] <Daskreech> Santa Bot?
[18:44] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: dunno 
[18:44] <Daskreech> Technically it's Kwanza bot and Robot Santa
[18:45] <shadeslayer> OMG
[18:45] <shadeslayer> :O
[18:45] <shadeslayer> rekonq html5 test score 211
[18:45] <shadeslayer> chrome html5 test score 226
[18:45] <shadeslayer> awesomeness
[18:46] <shadeslayer> i suppose thats because of new kdewebkit
[19:42] <apachelogger> the pub question remains :S
[19:47] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: good night 
[19:47] <shadeslayer> and happy new year
[19:47] <shadeslayer> cya
[19:47]  * shadeslayer will finally sleep after 2 days
[20:35] <Riddell> shadeslayer: you're going to sleep over the bells?
[20:35] <Riddell> oh it's already 2011 there duh
[20:37] <Riddell> shadeslayer: chat with jlayt
[20:59] <ari-tczew> All the best in 2011. See you next year!
[21:21] <maemologger> Omg, i have nevar seen the pub that empty
[22:12] <maemologger> So i picked up a lady no clue how that happened what an odd evening...
[22:15] <valorie> happy new year, maemologger
[22:15] <valorie> 10 hours to go, here
[22:16] <valorie> about to drive up to my cabin for partying
[22:17] <maemologger> And you mame :) 
[22:18] <maemologger> I jolly hope that means anything 
[22:18] <maemologger> Wow this lady is getting me drunk
[22:22] <JontheEchidna> maemologger: can haz pass plz?
[22:24] <JontheEchidna> for teh party
[22:28]  * valorie gives out free passes for all
[22:32] <valorie> byob, though
[22:32] <valorie> and some food
[22:39] <EagleScreen> ey boys, happy new yeaar to everyone!
[22:39] <EagleScreen> Kdbg upstream says that the current git is almost ready for release
[22:41] <maemologger> :) 
[22:44] <maemologger> Happy new year eagle 
[22:44] <EagleScreen> thanks
[22:45] <maemologger> So i gather kdbg is going to be the first upload in 2011
[22:46] <EagleScreen> I dude it
[22:46] <EagleScreen> but it is possible
[22:46] <EagleScreen> i need to do some fixes to my package
[22:58] <maemologger> Quickly
[22:58] <maemologger> By the time i get home i will be drunk enough to upload qanything
[22:59] <maemologger> Oh that was a qt anything
[22:59] <maemologger> Hehe
[23:03] <tsimpson> upload QTakeOverTheWorld for me :)
[23:20] <yofel> happy new year folks ;)