=== karina is now known as Guest20042 [00:30] ,qq [00:55] hello everyone .....just installed kubuntu last night . no sound . any help [00:56] hello, Im trying to get my girlfriend to switch to linux, what would be the most recommendable user friendly easy to use version? [00:57] ubunto or debian ... if migrating from linux install kde cause it has an interface that looks like windows [00:58] sorry i meant migrating from windows [00:59] there is a lot of online support and with 3 or 4 commands she will be able to install almost anything [01:00] why should I pick kubuntu instead of ubuntu? [01:00] atum: what did you mean with no sound? [01:01] well it has sound on the login , but if i play a video it has no sound [01:01] i have the alsa drivers updated [01:03] Scutum: the main difference between kubuntu and ubuntu is the desktop envrioemtn, ubuntu uses gnome and kubuntu use kde... which is better is an entrly presonal prefence and I suggest you try both and see which you think she will like more [01:03] :p [01:04] true [01:06] i like both but i believe for a fresh windows migrator kde kinda gives them a extra motivation [01:11] why is samba sharing so difficult in kubuntu [01:12] atum: what kind of machine do u use? [01:13] gateway m series [01:13] gateway m-6823a [01:15] when i do a lspci i get "00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) [01:15] uname -a "2.6.32-27-generic-pae #49-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 2 00:07:52 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux" [01:18] MrUnagi: samba sharing has many improvements in the current development, you will see them in Kubuntu 11.04 [01:19] * James147 has been waiting for those improvements since 10.04 :p === root is now known as Guest97555 === Guest97555 is now known as Simoneke [01:23] Hi, is there someone with pppoe connection?? === Alberto is now known as Alberto__ [01:24] aaa [01:54] !ppp [01:54] You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up === Eagle-XK is now known as EagleXK_AFK [02:11] i forgot, what's the command to adjust volume through the command line? [02:11] alsamixer [02:12] thx === jackson_ is now known as jackson === harry is now known as Guest30387 === jackson_ is now known as jackson [02:47] Where can I get a full list of installed packages? I know there is dpkg -l which is fine but how can I get this list "external" i.e. when running another linux? [02:48] is there a plain text file or something that contains a similar list? (names of packages would be sufficient) [02:54] !clone | BajK [02:54] BajK: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate [02:54] bbiab [02:55] eh... that's no answer to my question [03:12] i changed themes, to one of the other built in themes and when my mouse hovers over close, the icons disappear, is this normal? [03:15] actually i'm talking about the window decarations. [03:15] decerations. [03:15] decorations. === Muzer is now known as MuzerAway [03:15] damn. can't spell tonight. [03:15] rtdos: try loggin out and back in, if that dosent fix it then there is probally a problem with the theme [03:16] OK. the theme in question is olympic [03:19] it worked, james, but my oxygen icons are messed up. [03:19] is there a cache somwhere i need to clean out? [03:20] actually it's my crystal icons that are messed up. [03:23] rtdos: whats messed up about them? [03:24] they look corrupted / scrambled [03:29] rtdos: :s then try changing the icon theme theme [03:31] i did. the only one that seems to work without looking corrupted is monochrome. [03:35] james, is there a cache or something i need to clean out or how do i reisntall the icons themes? (i'm using the one that came with kubuntu using the sudo apt-get install kde-all option) [03:36] i haven't installed any extra icon themes. [03:37] rtdos: not sure if reinstalling would help... (also dont know the package name :) ) and I dont know exactly where the cache might be (try the ones in .kde) [03:37] or .icon [03:38] ok i'll look there. [03:38] what does .cache contain?> [03:41] there is no single utility to delete cache files and folders is there? [03:44] rtdos: dont know exactly, :) but I have delteded it before... without any noticaly side effects [03:44] ok. [03:45] ok. deleted i'm gonna reboot and see if that helps. [03:55] when minimizing and maximizing windows is there a way to adjust the animation speed? [03:58] rtdos: system settings > desktop effects there you should beable to adjust the global animation speed, or indivdually on some of the effects [03:58] Does anyone know how to get maximised windows to undecorate in kde? [03:58] rtdos: should be [03:58] with desktop effects [03:59] Paddy_NI: write a script for it [03:59] i'm not sure what i'm looking for. [03:59] * James147 knows that plasma-netbook does it by default, but dosent know how to make plasma-desktop it off by hand [03:59] Daskreech: you are forgetting the "first become a programmer" bit [03:59] :) [03:59] rtdos: on the general tab of desktop effets "animation speed:" [04:00] Paddy_NI: You'd be surprised how simple they are to write [04:00] doh! if it were a snake it would've bit me. :) [04:00] aint got the time or real interest at the moment [04:00] was really just wondering what plasma-netbook uses to achieve this effect [04:01] Scripts [04:01] well rules [04:01] Does it perhaps add a rule to window specific overrides [04:01] but effectively the same thing [04:01] I wonder what the line is [04:02] * James147 has a feeling you can add an option to ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktoprc... but is unsure [04:02] hmm [04:04] maco: Mind sharing your brain for a sec? [04:04] James147: might be possible. The rules are in plasma-netbook so might be able to toggle them there [04:06] ^^ hmm dosent seem to be doing it in plasma-netbook here :s [04:06] I am using the air for netbooks theme but its not really changing anything [04:08] duh... kwin not plasma... http://hanschen.org/2010/04/01/hide-window-border-for-maximized-windows/ [04:09] James147: Excellent man thanks a bunch :) [04:11] ha! ha! ha! i think i found a bug in either kde, kubuntu, or firefox: i just changed my icon settings, desktop effects, etc. and lost my forward / backward icons in firefox. relation somehow? [04:12] i just duplicated it, too. [04:14] rtdos: would you mind posting it to kde bug tracking system? (: [04:14] or at mozilla [04:14] where ? [04:14] should i post it in both? [04:15] !bug [04:15] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [04:17] any idea where or how to report it to mozilla ? [04:18] rtdos: might not be mozillas problem, I would report it to ubuntu first [04:19] (as far as I know kubuntu dose some things to intergrate firefox better with kde [04:19] firefox-kde-support << is responsible for that i think [04:20] OK, will do. thanks guys. [04:26] what's the difference between aptitude and apt-get ? [04:26] rtdos: they are two different programs that essentially do the same task... [04:27] rtdos: one does more helpy stuff one is more configurable but really annoyingly split up [04:27] rtdos: I prefure aptitude over apt-get as I find it more intuative to use... and it has a nice terminal-gui when run without arguments :) [04:33] and it's the one app whereas Apt needs like 4 different commands [04:34] apt-get apt-cache apt-file apt-cdrom [04:34] how to change WM in kubuntu to compiz? [04:35] ahaoa, ok, thanks james. [04:35] iLinux: compiz --replace [04:36] iLinux: System settings > deafult applcations > window manager .... [04:36] under desktop settings how do i set the translucency for the task bar? [04:36] iLinux: but I have to ask, whats wrong with kwin ? :) [04:36] rtdos: you dont, thats a theme thing... need to edit the theme or use one with the transparency you want [04:37] James147: i don't know, often i change decor (download) it's close automatically, but there's no response with the Decor [04:37] oh. ok. [04:38] oh... oh yea.. I need to change to KDE first. [04:41] hi... how do i install codec "vcdxrip" in k3b? [04:42] Sorry how to change WM to compiz again? [04:42] iLinux: System settings > deafult applcations > window manager .... [04:43] iLinux: compiz --replace [04:52] Does KDE have a applet like gkrelm for monitoring the MB? [04:53] does anyone know why radio tray does not work under kde ? [04:56] rjwiii: there is several, most simple is system load viewer [04:58] Tm_T: I like how gkrelm stays on the desktop ... where is "system load viewer"? [04:59] rjwiii: in desktop, rightclick and select "add widgets" [05:02] woodzy: what is "radio tray"? [05:02] I've never heard of that [05:03] a radio player that sits in the system tray - http://radiotray.sourceforge.net/ [05:03] wonder if it needs some of the libraries from gnome? [05:04] it loads in the tray but won't play any stations. [05:04] anyone know how to use the ubuntu SSO from login.ubuntu.com as an openid? [05:04] did you load it from packages? [05:04] it should have pulled in what it needs [05:05] yes i used sudo apt-get install to retrieve it. [05:05] sec [05:12] do you see it valorie? [05:20] yes, sorry [05:20] can you start it from the console, so you get some readout when you try to use it? [05:21] because there could be a number of problems [05:21] perhaps it isn't "calling out" -- telling the station "send me a stream" [05:21] the stream itself could be dead, or the URL mangled [05:22] you could have sound problems- it's playing, but you can't hear it [05:22] if you are using gstreamer, that doesn't stream [05:22] oddly enough, given the name [05:25] I have an old dog who gets restless at night sometimes [05:26] plays most media formats (based on gstreamer libraries) [05:26] afaik, gstreamer as a backend to phonon doesn't work on streaming [05:27] but maybe it's used directly, rather than as a backend [05:27] in general, KDE uses phonon with backends [05:31] valorie: :-) Hah nice observation [05:32] lots of experience with Amarok and streaming [05:32] but thanks [05:33] I've tried to use other stuff to listen to radio, but I always come back to Amarok [05:33] i'm ashamed to say I use kaffiene for that [05:33] no shame to anyone [05:33] use what you like [05:33] as do I [05:33] my husband is a Windows user [05:34] lol [05:35] valorie: I use mpg123 for radio, 0/ [05:35] valorie: Ah poor man :) [05:36] Argh [05:36] Daskreech: frugal living is a virtue [05:36] ;) [05:36] trying to make a deb and it keeps coming out with only the config files [05:36] its 70MBs vs. 600KBs Daskreech [05:36] geekosopher: I like a touch of indulgence [05:37] geekosopher: hitting Ctrl+F9 is a nice pleasure for example [05:38] Daskreech: nice, its the first time I came to know about it ;) [05:39] So I guess i shoudl prompt you to try typing the name of the program that you want? [05:41] well, it would be better to do it in an actual console [05:41] so you have the output to look at [05:41] dunno if f9 will do that for you [05:43] valorie: when I open a .pls file in amarok, it adds 3-4 items in playlist; all playing the same channel, is it the file or amarok? [05:43] valorie: guess you haven't tried Ctrl+F9 :) [05:45] that would be the file [05:45] I've never seen that [05:45] give the file URL and I'll try it [05:46] the stuff I'm listening to now is just funny [05:46] * valorie is listening to Engel by Rammstein on 20 Years on MTV: 1997 [Amarok] [05:46] lol [05:46] I like the whistling [05:46] any http://listen.sky.fm/public3/guitar.pls valorie [05:47] just one stream [05:47] * valorie is listening to Stream (http://u15c.sky.fm:80/sky_guitar) [Amarok] [05:48] which leads me to believe they have more than one format or something [05:49] hmm [05:51] valorie: thanks, just wanted to confirm :) [05:52] np [05:52] by the way, I "added stream" with the same URL you gave me [05:54] ok, I downloaded the .pls file and opened it with amarok, should that be any different? [05:54] downloaded? [05:54] hmm [05:55] I've never tried to download a stream [05:55] yes, when I go to sky.fm website, they have the list of files. clicking on one of them, downloads that '.pls' file [05:55] I just used the playlist top menu, add stream [05:55] interesting [05:56] you know you can get the skyfm script within Amarok [05:57] that will probably get you the best functionality [05:57] no! how? [05:57] as you'll be able to browse their streams within the Internet part [05:57] http://debian.pastebin.com/rK7nPFkD Can anyone look at the errors that I'm getting when I try to make the deb package for Coova Chilli [05:57] Tools > Script Manager > Get New Scripts [05:57] I just searched for sky to see for sure [05:58] oh good lord this CD is silly [05:58] * valorie is listening to Everybody by Backstreet Boys on 20 Years on MTV: 1997 [Amarok] [05:58] lol [06:00] * iLinux is away: iLinux The Ubuntu Revolution. Working: [ON] - OFF [06:02] ubottu: tell iLinux about away [06:02] iLinux, please see my private message [06:03] valorie: tried to install 'SkyFm Scrip' by Monolob, but it says 'could not install "SkyFm Script": file not found' [06:03] hmmm [06:03] well, you can look at KDE-apps.org [06:04] and see what's up with the file [06:04] sure [06:04] there may be more than one? [06:05] I ahve coolstreams , play ogg, and shoutcast installed [06:05] shoutcast doesn't seem to work very well [06:05] all of them have dead stations [06:05] I think people get tired of keeping the scripts current [06:10] of course I should give them bug reports, so boo on me for not doing so [06:12] shoutcast is AOL, they already said they were hostile to non-AOL implementations [06:14] oh, I didn't know that [06:14] maybe I should just ditch it, and try icecast instead [06:15] all of the streaming scripts seem to have dead spots, so far [06:15] some parts full of content that works [06:15] other parts, dead link after dead link [06:16] VLC dropped Shoutcast after AOL threatened them [06:16] that's the last I've bothered with it [06:16] that's why it is no longer a basic part of Amarok [06:16] only a script [06:17] oo|o to 'em [06:17] I think I installed it to test something for someone [06:20] geekosopher: looks like you have to download and uncompress outside of Amarok before installing it via the Script Engine [06:22] ok [06:25] valorie: read the comments at the bottom of the app page at kde-apps.org? http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/SkyFm+Script?content=133322 [06:25] I am trying it, hope the problem doesn't show up [06:27] well, months ago we had a problem in the script engine window [06:27] in the get new stuff part [06:27] but that's been fixed for a long time [06:27] ok [06:28] so if you are reasonably up to date, shouldn't be a problem [06:28] I know a lot of the devels use the script, or at least listen to skyfm [06:39] valorie: just downloaded the tar file, then 'Install Script' from Script Manager and selected the tar file... it works great! [06:40] \o/ [06:40] and now no multiple items in the playlist :) [06:48] did you quit amarok and start again? [06:48] yes, it asked me to [06:48] sometimes that is the magic [06:48] well, hmm [06:49] after restarting I had to activate the plugin manually [06:49] ok [06:50] I don't know if those two steps could be avoided [06:51] you would know better, you are the devel ;) [06:54] dinner [06:54] the devel [06:54] lol [06:54] errr [06:54] I'm the writer [06:54] wrong window [06:55] now devil -- we can debate that [06:55] lol [08:30] hey is there a japanese ubuntu channel?" [08:34] !jp [08:34] 日本語の場合は #ubuntu-jp または #kubuntu-jp を参照して下さい === david is now known as Guest64528 === Guest64528 is now known as thekleine [09:50] Salve, non riesco a far funzionare il microfono, qualcuno mi aiuta? [09:55] risolto [09:55] !it [09:55] Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) [09:55] hmm [09:56] maybe portugeuse? [09:56] !pt [09:56] Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado. [10:34] :) hi [10:36] hi Peace- [10:36] Riddell: hi :) [11:07] Hallo at all [11:08] Hallo at all. I want install in dual boot ubuntu and kubuntu by doing a separate installation of the two os.es. I know how to do all the process, but my doubt is regarding a partition.I usually use 4 partition /boot / swap /home. Now, i consider to install ubuntu by using this partitioning system, and after i'll install kubuntu. For Kubuntu i'll share home by a different user account [11:08] and swap but what about the boot partition?think to share that partition by mountig /boot of kubuntu on that [11:13] Shruikhan: well [11:13] Shruikhan: why do you want to dual boot? ubuntu desktop and kubuntu are different GUIs for the same base system [11:13] Riddell: i have the same stuff [11:13] ubuntu install a lots of gtk stuff [11:13] waddup [11:13] menu got messed up then if you instal kde too [11:13] waddup [11:14] Shruikhan: well i will use only this / /home and spaw [11:15] /home will be shared [11:15] Peace-: by messed up you mean shows the applications you have installed? [11:15] waddup [11:15] Riddell: have you ever tried to install kde on ubuntu gnome on kde? [11:15] septam: stop saying that [11:15] ok [11:15] my bad [11:15] and i i don't wanna stop [11:16] if [11:16] * [11:16] linux is da bomb [11:16] i'm new [11:16] Peace-: yes [11:16] and it's bad [11:16] i love it [11:16] tooo much programs [11:16] for real [11:16] with the same function [11:17] you can't find easly programs [11:17] septam: go to #kubuntu-offtopic for random chat (although it's probably quiet today being hogmanay) [11:18] so if you like it's better install only gtk programs that you like [11:18] you don't need all gnome destkop [11:18] why should i go there [11:18] septam: spam = kick [11:18] i got question [11:18] about linux [11:18] !repeat [11:18] Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com/ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ or http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ while you wait. [11:18] because i'm new [11:19] !rules [11:19] The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines [11:20] in fact i have questions about [11:20] a fortiget firewalla [11:20] firewall [11:20] !enter [11:20] Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! [11:20] which is getting on my nerves [11:21] !firewall [11:21] Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Firestarter/Gufw (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE) also exist. [11:21] does someone know about fortiget ?? [11:21] and i'm french [11:21] !french [11:21] Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc. Merci. [11:21] so it doesn't help [11:22] lol [11:22] oh ok [11:22] aight [11:22] learn english then.. i am italian... === yofel_ is now known as yofel [11:26] my english [11:26] is not don't bad [11:26] anyway [11:26] i'm off [11:27] alleluia === hoergen is now known as hoergenoid === bruno is now known as Guilliane [12:35] damn, peace's not here >-< [12:56] hey, running a program form an upstart job doesnt set the working directory right, how do i change it to a specific folder? [13:02] hi! I think my problem is recurrent but, is it already possible to solve the problem with black rhombus with "?" in KDE4? Thanks [13:03] I know I can rename the file using konsole, but I would like something permanent... [13:14] have upgrade to maverick with many problem, cause i had before lucid-backports. [13:14] now many packages are still lucid [13:15] how can i reinstall (for example) kubuntu-desktop) with all dependecies with downgrade to maverik package [13:15] in past, i think in synaptic i could mark all and use "reinstall all marked" but this is not possible anymore - all options like that are grayed out === hoergenoid is now known as hoergen [13:16] and if i change a package in synapic, he try to remove other packeges instead of solving dependencys and downgrade them too [13:18] why the reinstall-option is always deactivate in synaptic? [13:27] rethus: no idea about the reinstall button in synaptic, haven't used it in months, but for kubuntu-desktop you need to remove it and install it again, reinstall doesn't do anything useful (and try muon instead of synaptic btw.) [13:29] rethus: for KDE you might have to add the kubuntu updates ppa (ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa) for maverick though so it get's updated right [13:29] so i have to change to init 3 [13:29] rethus: no, and init 3 doesn't do anything useful anyway [13:29] or can i remove and reinstall out of thw xsystem? [13:30] rethus: sure, 'kubuntu-desktop' is just a meta package, removing it won't remove anything else [13:31] but i'm afraid, reinstall doesn't happend [13:31] cause all this lucid-packages has tair own dependencys [13:31] and maveric-stable is older than lucid backports [13:31] so what to do? [13:31] rethus: add kubuntu-ppa/ppa [13:31] only chance to get also maveric-backports? [13:32] but then, i will have the same trouble like these days if i try to dist-upgrade ?! [13:32] well, probably no, lucid backports had 4.5.3, maverick updates has 4.5.4, so it should update fine [13:33] problem in past was, that the upgrade process seems NOT to pay attention on packports-repos even if its enterd. [13:33] so i have add maverick backports bevore dist-upgrade... but doesn't worked [13:34] whats with the future... if i take now maverick-backports... will there be problems to upgrade to normal (stable) next distribution? [13:35] rethus: I never said to enable maverick backports [13:35] I said *updates* [13:35] but ppa is packports - or i'm wrong? [13:35] no, backports is 'kubuntu-ppa/backports', updates is 'kubuntu-ppa/ppa' [13:36] how can i add this to kpackagekit... only type in kubuntu-ppa/ppa ? [13:36] or ppa: kubuntu-ppa/ppa [13:36] ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa [13:38] yofel: great, 224 updates... [13:38] i'll try [13:38] thanks [13:38] thank me after it works.. [13:38] :D [13:39] but why this ppa-packages not by default activated? [13:40] i'll be glad if i get a clean maveric back... in future i keep off backports and experimental repositories [13:40] rethus: because NO ppas are activated by default since they're not part of the official kubuntu release [13:41] who made this ppa repos, [13:41] (the updates ppa exists since the kubuntu developers didn't have permission to upload KDE point releases to the ubuntu archive) [13:41] that was changed recently, but getting that into official -updates takes a while [13:41] yofel: so some developers keep the system uptodate and put it in thair own repos on ppa ? [13:43] hi! I think my problem is recurrent but, is it already possible to solve the problem with black rhombus with "?" in KDE4? Thanks [13:43] rethus: well yeah, the problem was that KDE is pretty large, and putting so many changes into -updates has some risks. So since they couldn't update KDE the official way the kubuntu developers decided to use a PPA [13:43] I know I can rename the file using konsole, but I would like something permanent... [13:59] ok, k3b automatically checks the md5sum and that is nice, however if I don't have the md5sum, then that probably doesn't mean much right? [14:00] without something to compare the sum to, no [14:01] tsimpson: that is what I thought, thanks [14:03] Howdy === sx is now known as HH-2843 === HH-2843 is now known as sx__ === sx__ is now known as HH-2843 [14:17] hey, can i tile these things? [14:17] and where is the channel info?? [14:18] o.. ok.. down there.. [14:18] who the f*** is what... [14:19] Ubunta! [14:19] no no no.. you just ignore Me... [14:20] :) [14:20] and by the way.. [14:21] Happy New Year! [14:25] HH-2843: tile what things? [14:34] yofel: ok, I'm back up after upgrade. [14:34] but everytime i start kde, the sound in kmix is muted, and if i unmute, totaly overload [14:35] seems not to hold my settings for next restart. [14:35]