[00:30] <ahaoa> ,qq
[00:55] <atum> hello everyone .....just installed kubuntu last night . no sound . any help
[00:56] <Scutum> hello, Im trying to get my girlfriend to switch to linux, what would be the most recommendable user friendly easy to use version?
[00:57] <atum> ubunto or debian ... if migrating from linux install kde cause it has an interface that looks like windows
[00:58] <atum> sorry i meant migrating from windows
[00:59] <atum> there is a lot of online support and with 3 or 4 commands she will be able to install almost anything
[01:00] <Scutum> why should I pick kubuntu instead of ubuntu?
[01:00] <matematikaadit> atum: what did you mean with no sound?
[01:01] <atum> well it has sound on the login , but if i play a video it has no sound
[01:01] <atum> i have the alsa drivers updated
[01:03] <James147> Scutum: the main difference between kubuntu and ubuntu is the desktop envrioemtn, ubuntu uses gnome and kubuntu use kde... which is better is an entrly presonal prefence and I suggest you try both and see which you think she will like more
[01:03] <James147> :p
[01:04] <atum> true
[01:06] <atum> i like both but i believe for a fresh windows migrator kde kinda gives them a extra motivation
[01:11] <MrUnagi> why is samba sharing so difficult in kubuntu
[01:12] <matematikaadit> atum: what kind of machine do u use?
[01:13] <atum> gateway m series
[01:13] <atum> gateway m-6823a
[01:15] <atum> when i do a lspci i get "00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[01:15] <atum> uname -a "2.6.32-27-generic-pae #49-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 2 00:07:52 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux"
[01:18] <EagleScreen> MrUnagi: samba sharing has many improvements in the current development, you will see them in Kubuntu 11.04
[01:19]  * James147 has been waiting for those improvements since 10.04 :p
[01:23] <Alberto> Hi, is there someone with pppoe connection??
[01:24] <Alberto__> aaa
[01:54] <well_laid_lawn> !ppp
[02:11] <rtdos> i forgot, what's the command to adjust volume through the command line?
[02:11] <DaemonFC> alsamixer
[02:12] <rtdos> thx
[02:47] <BajK> Where can I get a full list of installed packages? I know there is dpkg -l which is fine but how can I get this list "external" i.e. when running another linux?
[02:48] <BajK> is there a plain text file or something that contains a similar list? (names of packages would be sufficient)
[02:54] <well_laid_lawn> !clone | BajK
[02:54] <well_laid_lawn> bbiab
[02:55] <BajK> eh... that's no answer to my question
[03:12] <rtdos> i changed themes, to one of the other built in themes and when my mouse hovers over close, the icons disappear, is this normal?
[03:15] <rtdos> actually i'm talking about the  window decarations.
[03:15] <rtdos> decerations.
[03:15] <rtdos> decorations.
[03:15] <rtdos> damn. can't spell tonight.
[03:15] <James147> rtdos: try loggin out and back in, if that dosent fix it then there is probally a problem with the theme
[03:16] <rtdos> OK. the theme in question is olympic
[03:19] <rtdos> it worked, james, but my oxygen icons are messed up.
[03:19] <rtdos> is there a cache somwhere i need to clean out?
[03:20] <rtdos> actually it's my crystal icons that are messed up.
[03:23] <James147> rtdos: whats messed up about them?
[03:24] <rtdos> they look corrupted / scrambled
[03:29] <James147> rtdos: :s then try changing the icon theme theme
[03:31] <rtdos> i did. the only one that seems to work without looking corrupted is monochrome.
[03:35] <rtdos> james, is there a cache or something i need to clean out or how do i reisntall the icons themes? (i'm using the one that came with kubuntu using the sudo apt-get install kde-all option)
[03:36] <rtdos> i haven't installed any extra icon themes.
[03:37] <James147> rtdos: not sure if reinstalling would help... (also dont know the package name  :)  )  and I dont know exactly where the cache might be (try the ones in .kde)
[03:37] <James147> or .icon
[03:38] <rtdos> ok i'll look there.
[03:38] <rtdos> what does .cache contain?>
[03:41] <rtdos> there is no single utility to delete cache files and folders is there?
[03:44] <James147> rtdos: dont know exactly, :) but I have delteded it before... without any noticaly side effects
[03:44] <rtdos> ok.
[03:45] <rtdos> ok. deleted i'm gonna reboot and see if that helps.
[03:55] <rtdos> when minimizing and maximizing windows is there a way to adjust the animation speed?
[03:58] <James147> rtdos: system settings > desktop effects    there you should beable to adjust the global animation speed, or indivdually on some of the effects
[03:58] <Paddy_NI> Does anyone know how to get maximised windows to undecorate in kde?
[03:58] <Daskreech> rtdos: should be
[03:58] <Daskreech> with desktop effects
[03:59] <Daskreech> Paddy_NI: write a script for it
[03:59] <rtdos> i'm not sure what i'm looking for.
[03:59]  * James147 knows that plasma-netbook does it by default, but dosent know how to make plasma-desktop it off by hand
[03:59] <Paddy_NI> Daskreech: you are forgetting the "first become a programmer" bit
[03:59] <Paddy_NI> :)
[03:59] <James147> rtdos: on the general tab of desktop effets "animation speed:"
[04:00] <Daskreech> Paddy_NI: You'd be surprised how simple they are to write
[04:00] <rtdos> doh! if it were a snake it would've bit me. :)
[04:00] <Paddy_NI> aint got the time or real interest at the moment
[04:00] <Paddy_NI> was really just wondering what plasma-netbook uses to achieve this effect
[04:01] <Daskreech> Scripts
[04:01] <Daskreech> well rules
[04:01] <Paddy_NI> Does it perhaps add a rule to window specific overrides
[04:01] <Daskreech> but effectively the same thing
[04:01] <Paddy_NI> I wonder what the line is
[04:02]  * James147 has a feeling you can add an option to ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktoprc... but is unsure
[04:02] <Paddy_NI> hmm
[04:04] <Paddy_NI> maco: Mind sharing your brain for a sec?
[04:04] <Daskreech> James147: might be possible. The rules are in plasma-netbook so might be able to toggle them there
[04:06] <James147> ^^ hmm dosent seem to be doing it in plasma-netbook here :s
[04:06] <Paddy_NI> I am using the air for netbooks theme but its not really changing anything
[04:08] <James147> duh... kwin not plasma... http://hanschen.org/2010/04/01/hide-window-border-for-maximized-windows/
[04:09] <Paddy_NI> James147: Excellent man thanks a bunch :)
[04:11] <rtdos> ha! ha! ha! i think i found a bug in either kde, kubuntu, or firefox: i just changed my icon settings, desktop effects, etc. and lost my forward / backward icons in firefox. relation somehow?
[04:12] <rtdos> i just duplicated it, too.
[04:14] <BajK_> rtdos: would you mind posting it to kde bug tracking system? (:
[04:14] <BajK_> or at mozilla
[04:14] <rtdos> where ?
[04:14] <rtdos> should i post it in both?
[04:15] <James147> !bug
[04:17] <rtdos> any idea where or how to report it to mozilla ?
[04:18] <James147> rtdos: might not be mozillas problem, I would report it to ubuntu first
[04:19] <James147> (as far as I know kubuntu dose some things to intergrate firefox better with kde
[04:19] <James147> firefox-kde-support  << is responsible for that i think
[04:20] <rtdos> OK, will do. thanks guys.
[04:26] <rtdos> what's the difference between aptitude and apt-get ?
[04:26] <James147> rtdos: they are two different programs that essentially do the same task...
[04:27] <Daskreech> rtdos: one does more helpy stuff one is more configurable but really annoyingly split up
[04:27] <James147> rtdos: I prefure aptitude over apt-get as I find it more intuative to use... and it has a nice terminal-gui when run without arguments :)
[04:33] <Daskreech> and it's the one app whereas Apt needs like 4 different commands
[04:34] <Daskreech> apt-get apt-cache apt-file apt-cdrom
[04:34] <iLinux> how to change WM in kubuntu to compiz?
[04:35] <rtdos> ahaoa, ok, thanks james.
[04:35] <Daskreech> iLinux: compiz --replace
[04:36] <James147> iLinux:  System settings > deafult applcations > window manager ....
[04:36] <rtdos> under desktop settings how do i set the translucency for the task bar?
[04:36] <James147> iLinux: but I have to ask, whats wrong with kwin ? :)
[04:36] <James147> rtdos: you dont, thats a theme thing... need to edit the theme or use one with the transparency you want
[04:37] <iLinux> James147: i don't know, often i change decor (download) it's close automatically, but there's no response with the Decor
[04:37] <rtdos> oh. ok.
[04:38] <iLinux> oh... oh yea.. I need to change to KDE first.
[04:41] <tiago> hi... how do i install codec "vcdxrip" in k3b?
[04:42] <iLinux> Sorry how to change WM to compiz again?
[04:42] <James147> iLinux: System settings > deafult applcations > window manager ....
[04:43] <Daskreech> iLinux: compiz --replace
[04:52] <rjwiii> Does KDE have a applet like gkrelm for monitoring the MB?
[04:53] <woodzy> does anyone know why radio tray does not work under kde ?
[04:56] <Tm_T> rjwiii: there is several, most simple is system load viewer
[04:58] <rjwiii> Tm_T:  I like how gkrelm stays on the desktop ... where is "system load viewer"?
[04:59] <Tm_T> rjwiii: in desktop, rightclick and select "add widgets"
[05:02] <valorie> woodzy: what is "radio tray"?
[05:02] <valorie> I've never heard of that
[05:03] <woodzy> a radio player that sits in the system tray - http://radiotray.sourceforge.net/
[05:03] <woodzy> wonder if it needs some of the libraries from gnome?
[05:04] <woodzy> it loads in the tray but won't play any stations.
[05:04] <timboy> anyone know how to use the ubuntu SSO from login.ubuntu.com as an openid?
[05:04] <valorie> did you load it from packages?
[05:04] <valorie> it should have pulled in what it needs
[05:05] <woodzy> yes i used sudo apt-get install to retrieve it.
[05:05] <valorie> sec
[05:12] <woodzy> do you see it valorie?
[05:20] <valorie> yes, sorry
[05:20] <valorie> can you start it from the console, so you get some readout when you try to use it?
[05:21] <valorie> because there could be a number of problems
[05:21] <valorie> perhaps it isn't "calling out" -- telling the station "send me a stream"
[05:21] <valorie> the stream itself could be dead, or the URL mangled
[05:22] <valorie> you could have sound problems- it's playing, but you can't hear it
[05:22] <valorie> if you are using gstreamer, that doesn't stream
[05:22] <valorie> oddly enough, given the name
[05:25] <valorie> I have an old dog who gets restless at night sometimes
[05:26] <valorie> plays most media formats (based on gstreamer libraries)
[05:26] <valorie> afaik, gstreamer as a backend to phonon doesn't work on streaming
[05:27] <valorie> but maybe it's used directly, rather than as a backend
[05:27] <valorie> in general, KDE uses phonon with backends
[05:31] <Daskreech> valorie: :-) Hah nice observation
[05:32] <valorie> lots of experience with Amarok and streaming
[05:32] <valorie> but thanks
[05:33] <valorie> I've tried to use other stuff to listen to radio, but I always come back to Amarok
[05:33] <Daskreech> i'm ashamed to say I use kaffiene for that
[05:33] <valorie> no shame to anyone
[05:33] <valorie> use what you like
[05:33] <valorie> as do I
[05:33] <valorie> my husband is a Windows user
[05:34] <valorie> lol
[05:35] <geekosopher> valorie: I use mpg123 for radio, 0/
[05:35] <Daskreech> valorie: Ah poor man :)
[05:36] <Daskreech> Argh
[05:36] <geekosopher> Daskreech: frugal living is a virtue
[05:36] <geekosopher> ;)
[05:36] <Daskreech> trying to make a deb and it keeps coming out with only the config files
[05:36] <geekosopher> its 70MBs vs. 600KBs Daskreech
[05:36] <Daskreech> geekosopher: I like a touch of indulgence
[05:37] <Daskreech> geekosopher: hitting Ctrl+F9 is a nice pleasure for example
[05:38] <geekosopher> Daskreech: nice, its the first time I came to know about it ;)
[05:39] <Daskreech> So I guess i shoudl prompt you to try typing the name of the program that you want?
[05:41] <valorie> well, it would be better to do it in an actual console
[05:41] <valorie> so you have the output to look at
[05:41] <valorie> dunno if f9 will do that for you
[05:43] <geekosopher> valorie: when I open a .pls file in amarok, it adds 3-4 items in playlist; all playing the same channel, is it the file or amarok?
[05:43] <Daskreech> valorie: guess you haven't tried Ctrl+F9 :)
[05:45] <valorie> that would be the file
[05:45] <valorie> I've never seen that
[05:45] <valorie> give the file URL and I'll try it
[05:46] <valorie> the stuff I'm listening to now is just funny
[05:46]  * valorie is listening to Engel by Rammstein on 20 Years on MTV: 1997 [Amarok]
[05:46] <valorie> lol
[05:46] <valorie> I like the whistling
[05:46] <geekosopher> any http://listen.sky.fm/public3/guitar.pls valorie
[05:47] <valorie> just one stream
[05:47]  * valorie is listening to Stream (http://u15c.sky.fm:80/sky_guitar) [Amarok]
[05:48] <valorie> which leads me to believe they have more than one format or something
[05:49] <geekosopher> hmm
[05:51] <geekosopher> valorie: thanks, just wanted to confirm :)
[05:52] <valorie> np
[05:52] <valorie> by the way, I "added stream" with the same URL you gave me
[05:54] <geekosopher> ok, I downloaded the .pls file and opened it with amarok, should that be any different?
[05:54] <valorie> downloaded?
[05:54] <valorie> hmm
[05:55] <valorie> I've never tried to download a stream
[05:55] <geekosopher> yes, when I go to sky.fm website, they have the list of files. clicking on one of them, downloads that '.pls' file
[05:55] <valorie> I just used the playlist top menu, add stream
[05:55] <valorie> interesting
[05:56] <valorie> you know you can get the skyfm script within Amarok
[05:57] <valorie> that will probably get you the best functionality
[05:57] <geekosopher> no! how?
[05:57] <valorie> as you'll be able to browse their streams within the Internet part
[05:57] <Daskreech> http://debian.pastebin.com/rK7nPFkD Can anyone look at the errors that I'm getting when I try to make the deb package for Coova Chilli
[05:57] <valorie> Tools > Script Manager > Get New Scripts
[05:57] <valorie> I just searched for sky to see for sure
[05:58] <valorie> oh good lord this CD is silly
[05:58]  * valorie is listening to Everybody by Backstreet Boys on 20 Years on MTV: 1997 [Amarok]
[05:58] <valorie> lol
[06:00]  * iLinux is away:  iLinux  The Ubuntu Revolution. Working: [ON] - OFF
[06:02] <iLinux> ubottu: tell iLinux about away
[06:03] <geekosopher> valorie: tried to install 'SkyFm Scrip' by Monolob, but it says 'could not install "SkyFm Script": file not found'
[06:03] <valorie> hmmm
[06:03] <valorie> well, you can look at KDE-apps.org
[06:04] <valorie> and see what's up with the file
[06:04] <geekosopher> sure
[06:04] <valorie> there may be more than one?
[06:05] <valorie> I ahve coolstreams , play ogg, and shoutcast installed
[06:05] <valorie> shoutcast doesn't seem to work very well
[06:05] <valorie> all of them have dead stations
[06:05] <valorie> I think people get tired of keeping the scripts current
[06:10] <valorie> of course I should give them bug reports, so boo on me for not doing so
[06:12] <DaemonFC> shoutcast is AOL, they already said they were hostile to non-AOL implementations
[06:14] <valorie> oh, I didn't know that
[06:14] <valorie> maybe I should just ditch it, and try icecast instead
[06:15] <valorie> all of the streaming scripts seem to have dead spots, so far
[06:15] <valorie> some parts full of content that works
[06:15] <valorie> other parts, dead link after dead link
[06:16] <DaemonFC> VLC dropped Shoutcast after AOL threatened them
[06:16] <DaemonFC> that's the last I've bothered with it
[06:16] <valorie> that's why it is no longer a basic part of Amarok
[06:16] <valorie> only a script
[06:17] <valorie> oo|o to 'em
[06:17] <valorie> I think I installed it to test something for someone
[06:20] <valorie> geekosopher: looks like you have to download and uncompress outside of Amarok before installing it via the Script Engine
[06:22] <geekosopher> ok
[06:25] <geekosopher> valorie: read the comments at the bottom of the app page at kde-apps.org? http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/SkyFm+Script?content=133322
[06:25] <geekosopher> I am trying it, hope the problem doesn't show up
[06:27] <valorie> well, months ago we had a problem in the script engine window
[06:27] <valorie> in the get new stuff part
[06:27] <valorie> but that's been fixed for a long time
[06:27] <geekosopher> ok
[06:28] <valorie> so if you are reasonably up to date, shouldn't be a problem
[06:28] <valorie> I know a lot of the devels use the script, or at least listen to skyfm
[06:39] <geekosopher> valorie: just downloaded the tar file, then 'Install Script' from Script Manager and selected the tar file... it works great!
[06:40] <valorie> \o/
[06:40] <geekosopher> and now no multiple items in the playlist :)
[06:48] <valorie> did you quit amarok and start again?
[06:48] <geekosopher> yes, it asked me to
[06:48] <valorie> sometimes that is the magic
[06:48] <valorie> well, hmm
[06:49] <geekosopher> after restarting I had to activate the plugin manually
[06:49] <valorie> ok
[06:50] <geekosopher> I don't know if those two steps could be avoided
[06:51] <geekosopher> you would know better, you are the devel ;)
[06:54] <DaemonFC> dinner
[06:54] <valorie> the devel
[06:54] <valorie> lol
[06:54] <DaemonFC> errr
[06:54] <valorie> I'm the writer
[06:54] <DaemonFC> wrong window
[06:55] <valorie> now devil -- we can debate that
[06:55] <valorie> lol
[08:30] <glick> hey is there a japanese ubuntu channel?"
[08:34] <valorie> !jp
[09:50] <francesco_> Salve, non riesco a far funzionare il microfono, qualcuno mi aiuta?
[09:55] <francesco_> risolto
[09:55] <valorie> !it
[09:55] <valorie> hmm
[09:56] <valorie> maybe portugeuse?
[09:56] <valorie> !pt
[10:34] <Peace-> :) hi
[10:36] <Riddell> hi Peace-
[10:36] <Peace-> Riddell: hi :)
[11:07] <Shruikhan> Hallo at all
[11:08] <Shruikhan> Hallo at all. I want install in dual boot ubuntu and kubuntu by doing a separate installation of the two os.es. I know how to do all the process, but my doubt is regarding a partition.I usually use 4 partition /boot / swap /home. Now, i consider to install ubuntu by using this partitioning system, and after i'll install kubuntu. For Kubuntu i'll share home by a different user account
[11:08] <Shruikhan> and swap but what about the boot partition?think to share that partition by mountig /boot of kubuntu on that
[11:13] <Peace-> Shruikhan: well
[11:13] <Riddell> Shruikhan: why do you want to dual boot?  ubuntu desktop and kubuntu are different GUIs for the same base system
[11:13] <Peace-> Riddell: i have the same stuff
[11:13] <Peace-> ubuntu install a lots of gtk stuff
[11:13] <septam> waddup
[11:13] <Peace-> menu got messed up then if you instal kde too
[11:13] <septam> waddup
[11:14] <Peace-> Shruikhan: well i will use only this /  /home and spaw
[11:15] <Peace->  /home will be shared
[11:15] <Riddell> Peace-: by messed up you mean shows the applications you have installed?
[11:15] <septam> waddup
[11:15] <Peace-> Riddell: have you ever tried  to install kde on ubuntu gnome on kde?
[11:15] <Riddell> septam: stop saying that
[11:15] <septam> ok
[11:15] <septam> my bad
[11:15] <septam> and i i don't wanna stop
[11:16] <septam> if
[11:16] <septam> *
[11:16] <septam> linux is da bomb
[11:16] <septam> i'm new
[11:16] <Riddell> Peace-: yes
[11:16] <Peace-> and it's bad
[11:16] <septam> i love it
[11:16] <Peace-> tooo much programs
[11:16] <septam> for real
[11:16] <Peace-> with the same function
[11:17] <Peace-> you can't find easly programs
[11:17] <Riddell> septam: go to #kubuntu-offtopic for random chat (although it's probably quiet today being hogmanay)
[11:18] <Peace-> so if you like it's better install only gtk programs that you like
[11:18] <Peace-> you don't need all gnome destkop
[11:18] <septam> why should i go there
[11:18] <Peace-> septam: spam = kick
[11:18] <septam> i got question
[11:18] <septam> about linux
[11:18] <Peace-> !repeat
[11:18] <septam> because i'm new
[11:19] <Peace-> !rules
[11:20] <septam> in fact i have questions about
[11:20] <septam> a fortiget firewalla
[11:20] <septam> firewall
[11:20] <Peace-> !enter
[11:20] <septam> which is getting on my nerves
[11:21] <Peace-> !firewall
[11:21] <septam> does someone know about fortiget ??
[11:21] <septam> and i'm french
[11:21] <Peace-> !french
[11:21] <septam> so it doesn't help
[11:22] <septam> lol
[11:22] <septam> oh ok
[11:22] <septam> aight
[11:22] <Peace-> learn english then.. i am italian...
[11:26] <septam> my english
[11:26] <septam> is not don't bad
[11:26] <septam> anyway
[11:26] <septam> i'm off
[11:27] <Peace-> alleluia
[12:35] <BloodyRain2k> damn, peace's not here >-<
[12:56] <lieuwe> hey, running a program form an upstart job doesnt set the working directory right, how do i change it to a specific folder?
[13:02] <javier_> hi! I think my problem is recurrent but, is it already possible to solve the problem with black rhombus with "?" in KDE4? Thanks
[13:03] <javier_> I know I can rename the file using konsole, but I would like something permanent...
[13:14] <rethus> have upgrade to maverick with many problem, cause i had before lucid-backports.
[13:14] <rethus> now many packages are still lucid
[13:15] <rethus> how can i reinstall (for example) kubuntu-desktop) with all dependecies with downgrade to maverik package
[13:15] <rethus> in past, i think in synaptic i could mark all and use "reinstall all marked" but this is not possible anymore - all options like that are grayed out
[13:16] <rethus> and if i change a package in synapic, he try to remove other packeges instead of solving dependencys and downgrade them too
[13:18] <rethus> why the reinstall-option is always deactivate in synaptic?
[13:27] <yofel> rethus: no idea about the reinstall button in synaptic, haven't used it in months, but for kubuntu-desktop you need to remove it and install it again, reinstall doesn't do anything useful (and try muon instead of synaptic btw.)
[13:29] <yofel> rethus: for KDE you might have to add the kubuntu updates ppa (ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa) for maverick though so it get's updated right
[13:29] <rethus> so i have to change to init 3
[13:29] <yofel> rethus: no, and init 3 doesn't do anything useful anyway
[13:29] <rethus> or can i remove and reinstall out of thw xsystem?
[13:30] <yofel> rethus: sure, 'kubuntu-desktop' is just a meta package, removing it won't remove anything else
[13:31] <rethus> but i'm afraid, reinstall doesn't happend
[13:31] <rethus> cause all this lucid-packages has tair own dependencys
[13:31] <rethus> and maveric-stable is older than lucid backports
[13:31] <rethus> so what to do?
[13:31] <yofel> rethus: add kubuntu-ppa/ppa
[13:31] <rethus> only chance to get also maveric-backports?
[13:32] <rethus> but then, i will have the same trouble like these days if i try to dist-upgrade ?!
[13:32] <yofel> well, probably no, lucid backports had 4.5.3, maverick updates has 4.5.4, so it should update fine
[13:33] <rethus> problem in past was, that the upgrade process seems NOT to pay attention on packports-repos even if its enterd.
[13:33] <rethus> so i have add maverick backports bevore dist-upgrade... but doesn't worked
[13:34] <rethus> whats with the future... if i take now maverick-backports... will there be problems to upgrade to normal (stable) next distribution?
[13:35] <yofel> rethus: I never said to enable maverick backports
[13:35] <yofel> I said *updates*
[13:35] <rethus> but ppa is packports - or i'm wrong?
[13:35] <yofel> no, backports is 'kubuntu-ppa/backports', updates is 'kubuntu-ppa/ppa'
[13:36] <rethus> how can i add this to kpackagekit... only type in kubuntu-ppa/ppa ?
[13:36] <rethus> or ppa: kubuntu-ppa/ppa
[13:36] <yofel> ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa
[13:38] <rethus> yofel: great, 224 updates...
[13:38] <rethus> i'll try
[13:38] <rethus> thanks
[13:38] <yofel> thank me after it works..
[13:38] <rethus> :D
[13:39] <rethus> but why this ppa-packages not by default activated?
[13:40] <rethus> i'll be glad if i get a clean maveric back... in future i keep off backports and experimental repositories
[13:40] <yofel> rethus: because NO ppas are activated by default since they're not part of the official kubuntu release
[13:41] <rethus> who made this ppa repos,
[13:41] <yofel> (the updates ppa exists since the kubuntu developers didn't have permission to upload KDE point releases to the ubuntu archive)
[13:41] <yofel> that was changed recently, but getting that into official -updates takes a while
[13:41] <rethus> yofel: so some developers keep the system uptodate and put it in thair own repos on ppa ?
[13:43] <javier_> hi! I think my problem is recurrent but, is it already possible to solve the problem with black rhombus with "?" in KDE4? Thanks
[13:43] <yofel> rethus: well yeah, the problem was that KDE is pretty large, and putting so many changes into -updates has some risks. So since they couldn't update KDE the official way the kubuntu developers decided to use a PPA
[13:43] <javier_> I know I can rename the file using konsole, but I would like something permanent...
[13:59] <shane4ubuntu> ok, k3b automatically checks the md5sum and that is nice, however if I don't have the md5sum, then that probably doesn't mean much right?
[14:00] <tsimpson> without something to compare the sum to, no
[14:01] <shane4ubuntu> tsimpson: that is what I thought, thanks
[14:03] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[14:17] <HH-2843> hey, can i tile these things?
[14:17] <HH-2843> and where is the channel info??
[14:18] <HH-2843> o.. ok.. down there..
[14:18] <HH-2843> who the f*** is what...
[14:19] <HH-2843> Ubunta!
[14:19] <HH-2843> no no no.. you just ignore Me...
[14:20] <HH-2843> :)
[14:20] <HH-2843> and by the way..
[14:21] <HH-2843> Happy New Year!
[14:25] <rork> HH-2843: tile what things?
[14:34] <rethus> yofel: ok, I'm back up after upgrade.
[14:34] <rethus> but everytime i start kde, the sound in kmix is muted, and if i unmute, totaly overload
[14:35] <rethus> seems not to hold my settings for next restart.
[14:35] <rethus> any idea, what i could do?
[14:36] <yofel> no, I don't know much about sound :/
[14:36] <Shruikhan> I cant enable subwoofer
[14:36] <Shruikhan> can someone help me??
[14:37] <rethus> maverick seems to have some good updates, but i hate the pulseaudio-upgrade.
[14:37] <rethus> :(
[14:37] <rethus> only problems since the first second
[14:46] <BluesKaj> rethus, open alsamixer in the terminal, and set the ctrls there
[14:46] <rethus> i do this yesterday
[14:47] <rethus> nevertheless the soundsettings was not saved
[14:48] <BluesKaj> Shruikhan, same for you , open alsamixer in the terminal, use the F keys to find the LFE, ctrl use the arrow keys to control the volume
[14:49] <rethus> i think using pulseaudio is only usable for ubuntu - means gnome. Cause for kde there seems to be no stable apps for using it.
[14:51] <rethus> fact is... i have to use padevchooser, gnome-alsamixer ... this are all gnome apps. Hope kde will soon implement some pulseaudio-stuff.
[14:56] <rethus> i restart again
[14:56] <rethus> and all in kmix audio is muted
[14:56] <rethus> if i activate ... scratchy - overloaded sound
[14:57] <rethus> so i have to change mic 2 to mic1 and back to mic2 than the sound not scratchy
[14:57] <rethus> whats this?
[14:58] <Shruikhan> hallo..?
[14:58] <Shruikhan> can i troll someone?
[14:59] <yofel> rethus: you could go to #kubuntu-devel and ask what you should file a bug against for that
[15:01] <yofel> rethus: and you *can* try to remove pulseaudio, if it's not there phonon should fall back to alsa (or try to put 'autospawn = no' into ~/.pulse/client.conf and reboot)
[15:02] <yofel> Shruikhan: troll no, but I fear there's just nobody here that knows the answer for your subwoofer problem currently
[15:03] <BluesKaj> rethus, check this out : http://linux.dsplabs.com.au/alsamixer-and-alsactl-store-adjust-and-save-alsa-mixer-settings-p29/
[15:03] <BluesKaj> Shruikhan, http://linux.dsplabs.com.au/alsamixer-and-alsactl-store-adjust-and-save-alsa-mixer-settings-p29/
[15:07] <rethus> but nevertheless the trouble i have after Maverick-Upgrade, my dolphins now didn't crashed 5-10 times a day
[15:07] <rethus> thats good news :D
[15:42] <rtdos> this is the error i get when i run radiotray from the command line.
[15:42] <rtdos> Could not bind to Gnome for Media Keys
[15:42] <rtdos> do i need to install the gnome media libs?
[15:44] <BluesKaj> radiotray?
[15:44] <Daskreech> A radio that sits in your tray
[15:45] <BluesKaj> looks like it needs python
[15:49] <shane4ubuntu> ok, everytime my mouse (trackball wireless usb) sets idle for a few moments, it disconnects, and I have to pick it up and hit reconnect on the bottom of my trackball with a pen, this is terrible annoying, just started today out of the blue????  Any ideas?
[15:50] <shane4ubuntu> is it pre 2011 desktop jitters??? :)  I would think it would have to do with power management, but not sure,
[15:53] <shane4ubuntu> Well, here is some info uner Input Devices, Cordless Optical Trackman it says this:  You have a logitech mouse connected, and libusb was found at compile time, but it was not possible to access this mouse.  This is probably caused by a permissions problem - you should consult the manual on how to fix this.
[15:53] <BluesKaj> shane4ubuntu, batteries ?
[15:53] <shane4ubuntu> BluesKaj: I wouldn't think, usually if it is the batteries, it hitting the connect button on bottom doesn't reconnect it.
[15:54] <shane4ubuntu> BluesKaj: could be they are getting low though??  I"m not sure.
[15:55] <BluesKaj> shane4ubuntu, if you run wireless stuff like KB and mouse then buy a cheap battery tester .. it will come in handy in these situations
[15:56] <shane4ubuntu> BluesKaj: well, when I ran gnome it would alert me that my mouse battery was low, so there wasn't a need.
[15:56] <Daskreech> Or rechargeable batteries
[15:56] <shane4ubuntu> I'm a partially converted gnome user
[15:56] <shane4ubuntu> Daskreech: those are what I have and use. :)
[15:56] <Daskreech> shane4ubuntu: Come in We have Kake and Kookies :)
[15:56] <BluesKaj> I use one and if the batteries drop below 50% then I have probs
[15:57] <shane4ubuntu> I guess I will change the batteries and see if that helps
[15:57] <shane4ubuntu> Daskreech: how about Koffee with Kaffine?
[15:57] <BluesKaj> a bttery tester is handy for all kinds of household devices
[15:57] <Daskreech> Konceivable
[15:59] <sx> kaka
[15:59] <sx> kake
[15:59] <sx> ?
[15:59] <rtdos> i have python installed.
[15:59] <shane4ubuntu> arrrgh, ok, seems none of my batteries are working in ths thing now
[16:00]  * shane4ubuntu breaks out the multi-tester to go on a battery testing spree
[16:01] <BluesKaj> rtdos, I tried trayradio ... it din't work for me either , some dependencies are depracated according to the errors I got whem launching from the cli
[16:02] <shane4ubuntu> very odd one battery reports 1.3  and the other 0.3  odd, I would think they would die evenly
[16:02] <rtdos> a gnome only app, perhaps?
[16:03] <Daskreech> shane4ubuntu: no reason why they should.
[16:03] <Daskreech> batteries are very analog :)
[16:03] <shane4ubuntu> I guess, that is odd though
[16:03] <BluesKaj> shane4ubuntu, I encountered the same thing ..uneven usage in the same device
[16:03] <Daskreech> sitting in the store with one facing out to the sun would ruin that one while protecting the rest
[16:04] <Daskreech> Lots of reasons why batteries discharge at different rates
[16:04] <rtdos> BluesKaj - http://kde-apps.org/index.php?xsortmode=high&page=0&xcontentmode=220x221x56x57x58 - any other players for kde like radiotray that don't use Amarok?
[16:07] <BluesKaj> rtdos, where in that page does it say radiotray uses amarok?
[16:07] <shane4ubuntu> ok, we are getting slightly off topic here, but if they discharge un-evenly, in the mouse, I just take them both and and put them in the charger, seems like that wouldn't be good for them???  They are NiHM not NiCad    ??
[16:08] <BluesKaj> dunno shane4ubuntu
[16:08] <rtdos> it doesn't. the homepage for radiotray is here - http://radiotray.sourceforge.net/
[16:08] <shane4ubuntu> ok, two new batteries and we will see if that works better.
[16:09] <Daskreech> shane4ubuntu: yeah but not a lot you can do about it. The two of them being different levels puts pressure on the higher volt one
[16:10] <shane4ubuntu> Daskreech: I think it is the Battery manufacturer's way of ensuring you buy new rechargeable batteries, a conspirist theory. :)
[16:11]  * shane4ubuntu actually needs to weed out his old bad recharable batteries, and replace them.
[16:11] <Daskreech> shane4ubuntu: They can't overrule physics
[16:12] <shane4ubuntu> ok, thanks again guys for helping me with such a silly problem.
[16:12] <BluesKaj> rtdos, maybe if you use the sourceforge version , it will work , since compliling will require you to install all required dependencies etc
[16:13] <BluesKaj> BBL
[16:17] <rtdos> i tried that. the sourceforge version is .61 while the kpackagekit version is .62 (oddly).
[16:17] <rtdos> doh!
[16:17] <Daskreech> rtdos: ha what's the svn status of the code?
[16:18] <rtdos> blueskaj, i installed minitube which installed the gstreamer and now it works. so i wonder why it's not installing all the libs it needs from the kpackagekit?
[16:18] <rtdos> daskreech, how do i fine the svn status of the code?
[16:18] <rtdos> according to his blog it was updated last week.
[16:19] <Daskreech> rtdos: I just mean how long ago was .61 put out. .62 might be very close to being released and some distros are more gungho to ship new stuff than others
[16:19] <Daskreech> Well some packagers at least
[16:20] <rtdos> according to his blog .61 was  just released.
[16:21] <rtdos> december 22 is the date on the blog for .61
[16:25] <Daskreech> rtdos: Oh wow Hmm
[16:25] <Daskreech> Maybe kpackagekit has a timemachine package?
[16:29] <rtdos> yea, thats what i said daskreech
[16:38] <shane4ubuntu> can I tar a file and limit it's file size to like 50mb chunks?  or only with zip?
[16:39] <tsimpson> shane4ubuntu: you can tar it, then split it up into 50MB chunks
[16:39] <tsimpson> hint: look at the "split" command
[16:39] <shane4ubuntu> tsimpson: ok, thanks!  I will check that out.
[16:42] <Daskreech> or you can use -L
[16:45] <shane4ubuntu> Daskreech: -L?  I found k to specify size
[16:47] <shane4ubuntu> Daskreech: ohh, I see, I was reading some apparently old doc:  http://www.computerhope.com/unix/utar.htm
[16:47] <vinnie_> is there a way to adjust speaker balance in kde4?
[16:52] <fanfare> Hi Folks, is there an lanmap(2) alternative already in repos?
[16:55] <shane4ubuntu> tsimpson: ok, I found this explaining split, but I too am stumped on how to undo something like that then.
[16:55] <shane4ubuntu> http://forums.devshed.com/unix-help-35/creating-multivolume-tar-files-with-incrementing-name-427839.html  tsimpson  the link. :)
[16:55] <tsimpson> cat is a good way to join files ;)
[16:56] <tsimpson> eg: cat my_archive.tar.gz.* > my_archive.tar.gz
[16:56] <shane4ubuntu> tsimpson: so then cat could just join them to be untarred normally?
[16:57] <tsimpson> yeah
[16:57] <tsimpson> or you could use "cat my_archive.tar.gz.* | tar xzf -" to untar in one go
[16:57] <Daskreech> shane4ubuntu: tar -M works as well :)
[16:57] <shane4ubuntu> ok, that isn't too bad, I would still like to figure out how to do this straight through with tar though, 7zip does it
[16:58] <Daskreech> shane4ubuntu: tar czf | split - blah
[16:58] <shane4ubuntu> Daskreech: I haven't be successfull in getting that to work, can I use it with bz2?
[16:59] <Daskreech> replace z with j
[16:59] <shane4ubuntu> Daskreech: I mean straight with tar -cvjf -M -L 20720 mytar.tar.bz2 folder
[16:59] <shane4ubuntu> doesn't seem to like that.
[16:59] <Daskreech> You don't need the v
[17:00] <shane4ubuntu> Daskreech: I like the v. :)
[17:00] <uberkrishta> hello everyone
[17:00] <uberkrishta> any up ?
[17:00] <Daskreech> shane4ubuntu: Fine :)
[17:01] <shane4ubuntu> Daskreech: ok without the v I get this error:  tar: Cannot use multi-volume compressed archives
[17:01] <shane4ubuntu> also with the v
[17:01] <shane4ubuntu> tar -cjf -M -L 20720 2002.tar.bz2 2002  <<<  there is the command I'm using
[17:03] <rtdos> daskreech, since neither the package manager or downloading directly from the website installed the necessary libraries, would that be a bug or what ?
[17:03] <Daskreech> shane4ubuntu: What's the M for?
[17:04] <shane4ubuntu> M is multidisk?  I'm not sure saw it in an example
[17:04] <Daskreech> rtdos: for the package perhaps do you have it installing recommended ?
[17:04] <shane4ubuntu> Daskreech: ahh, no -M  that seems to be working, at least I think I took out the v so I don't know what it is doing. :)
[17:05] <Daskreech> shane4ubuntu: :-D
[17:05] <Daskreech> I think M is the reverse of -L it puts it back together
[17:06] <Daskreech> at least it does in my head
[17:06] <rtdos> daskreech, how ? first i used sudo apt-get then i used kpackage kit and then i tried the website. neither of the ways one would normally use installed gstreamer (which i didn't catch until i installed mini-tube)
[17:06] <shane4ubuntu> Daskreech: thanks the -M was the problem, I think -M is for multivolume so that you can specify where to write it to, like CD or something
[17:06] <shane4ubuntu> Daskreech: you may be right though.
[17:09] <shane4ubuntu> odd, is it keeping all that in ram till it is done?
[17:09] <shane4ubuntu> it is working away, but I don't see any files
[17:09] <Daskreech> shane4ubuntu: no tar works as a stream
[17:10] <Daskreech> it puts it into the words directly after the -f
[17:10] <shane4ubuntu> which should output 20mb files as it goes along right?
[17:11] <Daskreech> what's the command that you used?
[17:11] <shane4ubuntu> I need a good using tar guide, it is one of those complex programs with more options than a swiss army jack knife
[17:12] <shane4ubuntu> tar -cvjf -L 20720 2002.tar.bz2 2002
[17:12] <Daskreech> technically a jack knife is pretty simple even if carried by someone in the swiss army
[17:12] <Daskreech> What does f refer to?
[17:12] <shane4ubuntu> foobar?
[17:13] <shane4ubuntu> lol, well that failed, so the -L option needs to be before f?
[17:13] <Daskreech> no the file name needs to be after the f
[17:13] <Daskreech> like immeadietely
[17:14] <shane4ubuntu> right, so I probably have a -L20720 file somewhere on my system?
[17:14] <shane4ubuntu> ohh, there it is. :)
[17:14] <Daskreech> congrats
[17:15] <shane4ubuntu> ahh, I hate removing files with odd characters starting their name!  rm -v (yes I like v) \-L20720 doesn't seem to work
[17:15] <Daskreech> now if only mv took a -L option it would be humourous watching you try to rename it :)
[17:16] <Daskreech> shane4ubuntu: Why don't you just split that file to the filename that you want?
[17:16] <shane4ubuntu> with the split command?
[17:17] <shane4ubuntu> ok, what is the command line trick to remove a file named, -L20720   I know I can use gui, but like to learn
[17:18] <shane4ubuntu> oh, got it, rm taught me, rm ./-L20720
[17:19] <fanfare> is there an lanmap(2) alternative already in repos?
[17:20] <shane4ubuntu> Daskreech: ok, -L doesn't work for me I have tried it everywhere
[17:20] <Daskreech> shane4ubuntu: Should have just split the file :)
[17:20] <Daskreech> or renamed it at least
[17:20] <shane4ubuntu> I would prefer it all rolled into one app so I don't need to use two, I'm archiving old pictures
[17:21] <Daskreech> well .... technically you are already using two since you ahve a j option
[17:21] <shane4ubuntu> Daskreech: well, it was full size, uncompressed, and I'm tinkering to learn
[17:22] <shane4ubuntu> so I can compress pictures, upload them to online storage small chunks for easy upload/download
[17:23] <shane4ubuntu> I wanted to do it with tar, but well, that has proven difficult, 7zip will do it I guess.
[17:23] <Daskreech> sure
[17:24] <shane4ubuntu> rar will too, but somehow I feel that tar is linux owned, and the others, aren't
[17:29] <Daskreech> ?
[17:30] <Daskreech> Tar is quite a bit older than linux
[17:30] <Daskreech> maybe by a decade
[17:31] <shane4ubuntu> oh, could be, I don't really know, other than tar is every linux distro under the sun, it is the Linux compressioin/decompression tool.  not really owned by linux, just every linux distro has it.
[17:31] <Daskreech> Yeah ... except that it doesn't compress :)
[17:31] <Daskreech> it tars :)
[17:32] <shane4ubuntu> oh, right, true, I guess techincally it uses gzip and b?zip to compress
[17:32] <Daskreech> or compress if you are old school and senile
[17:32] <templar_visible> Hi there is somethings being downloaded from phallus1.diddyinc.com. I am sure I have never visited that website before. I have not given any updates too.
[17:33] <shane4ubuntu> lol
[17:33] <Daskreech> templar_visible: block it
[17:34] <templar_visible> Daskreech: how?
[17:34] <Daskreech> firewall. Iptables/ Plugging the computer out of the network :)
[17:35] <templar_visible> I have Gaurdog, but it can only block ports. I am not comfortable with Iptables
[17:35] <Snowhog> fanfare: Are you into building lanmap2?
[17:36] <fanfare> Snowhog: as i didnt find anything i now build lanmap2
[17:36] <Daskreech> templar_visible: what is downloading it?
[17:36] <Snowhog> fanfare: See https://github.com/pizza/lanmap2
[17:36] <Daskreech> can you jsut kill the process?
[17:37] <templar_visible> Daskreech: I used iftop to see the url from where its being downloaded. But how can I see what and where in my system is it being downloaded?
[17:37] <fanfare> Snowhog: yeah, i read README and folow those instructions...
[17:41] <Snowhog> fanfare: See also http://www.parseerror.com/lanmap/ which has the info on obtaining the source tree for lanmap2.
[17:42] <fanfare> Snowhog: hm, good hint, as i DLed lanmap2x.tar.gz not git cloned... that info should be in readme too :-)
[17:49] <fanfare> Snowhog: hm, lanmap2 works ok, just like lanmap(1) did... I should get into deb-building somewhen...
[18:04] <em> Hey has kubuntu gotten better, is it looking good with Maverick?
[18:05] <Snowhog> em: Maverick here, with KDE 4.5.4 is SOLID.
[18:10] <em> Snowhog: cool is KDE 4.5.4 the one that ships with Maverick?
[18:19] <rork> em: Maverick comes with 4.5.1
[18:20] <em> w 147
[18:41] <phoenix_firebrd> happy new year
[18:42] <MrUnagi> 10 more hours for me
[19:41] <e_t_> If I delete /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules, will the file be regenerated. or will I be left without network interfaces?
[19:48] <James147> e_t_: dont think files in /etc get auto generated... you could try dpkg-reconfigure to try to regenerate them
[19:49] <vbgunz__> I have my pc set to suspend to ram in 45 minutes. I believe something about it is screwing with my effects on resume. my effects start to chug along. anybody have an idea whats up?
[19:56] <rtdos> i get this error - XML parsing error: 'no element found' at line 462 - when i launch code lite.
[20:17] <nuno> hi
[20:35] <olivier> salut
[20:35] <olivier> je viens de changer ma carte nvidia par une ati hd5450
[20:36] <olivier> mon  soucis est que les effets se desavtivent à chaque redemarrage
[20:36] <e_t_> !fr
[21:13] <Melonium> hi
[21:13] <Melonium> I run into troubles...
[21:14] <Melonium> tried to install a package,  got the info about broken dependencies,  accepted a solution,  and messed up the system
[21:14] <Melonium> http://pastebin.com/GGQJHp0T
[21:14] <Melonium> what's to do?
[21:18] <James147> Melonium: try running "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -f"
[21:18] <Melonium> James147, more shit just happened *g*
[21:18] <Melonium> James147, sorry I need to show you a new follow up posting
[21:18] <Melonium> gimme a second
[21:20] <Melonium> James147, http://pastebin.com/YaZ1Zq2P
[21:20] <Melonium> I tried to install "kdelibs4c2a"  since this was the package I've been asked for
[21:21] <Melonium> the missing dependency
[21:21] <Melonium> so I hoped solving the problem by installing it
[21:21] <Melonium> did I mess up my system now?
[21:22] <James147> Melonium: remove kmtmoney2 , then run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -f"
[21:23] <Melonium> ok, James147 !
[21:23] <Melonium> thank you very much, James147
[21:24] <James147> Melonium: also, once you get apt-get working again, upgrade your system :) there are allot of updates you havent installed
[21:24] <BloodyRain2k> hi, I got a problem with my wlan. I guess it is a driver problem because since I installed upon Peace-'s recommendation madwifi and blacklisted the default atheros driver it works even less. Instead of finding networks and just not connecting does it now not even find networks anymore
[21:27] <Melonium> James147: apt-get install -f  tells me there would be no broken package
[21:27] <Melonium> James147, aptitude install -f  gives me like a whole page
[21:27] <Daskreech> !ohmy
[21:28] <James147> Melonium: then use aptitude to try and fix them :)
[21:28] <Melonium> Daskreech, was that info for me?
[21:28] <Melonium> heh, ok James147
[21:28] <Melonium> thank you very much
[21:28] <Daskreech> Melonium: mebbe :)
[21:29] <Melonium> Daskreech: reason?
[21:29] <Daskreech> !wifi
[21:30] <rtdos> is there anything similar to gconf in kde?
[21:30] <Daskreech> rtdos: No
[21:30] <rtdos> is there a way to disable user switching then?
[21:30] <Daskreech> I seem to remember there was
[21:31] <rtdos> i never liked that function on windows and i don't like to have things enabled i don't like or won't use. :)
[21:33] <Melonium> Thank you James147
[21:33] <Melonium> bye bye James147  :)
[21:33] <Melonium> Have a great new year!
[21:53] <shane4ubuntu> does anyone know how to search inside sxw and odt files for text?  I don't think grep can do that.
[21:54] <shane4ubuntu> sxw are old openoffice files, old, I know but they are from days gone by
[21:56]  * James147 has a feeling they are might be compressed files...
[21:56] <shane4ubuntu> James147: if I use Google Desktop thing, I know it can index it, but I don't want to wait that long for indexing.
[21:58] <shane4ubuntu> James147: well, here is an apparent solution:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-811714.html
[21:58] <James147> shane4ubuntu: yeah, they are compressed files, you can extract them and search content.xml (or find a program taht can search through compressed files
[21:59] <shane4ubuntu> James147: thanks!  I didn't realize that, I will give this a try for the time being, I need to install an indexer.
[22:00] <valorie> sudo updatedb / locate?
[22:00] <valorie> simple, easy
[22:00] <James147> valorie: that wont search file contents...
[22:00] <valorie> ah
[22:00] <valorie> :(
[22:00] <shane4ubuntu> valorie: no, I need to look inside the file and find content
[22:00] <valorie> it's been awhile since I used it
[22:01] <shane4ubuntu> I do love locate though, when I know a doc title.
[22:04] <shane4ubuntu> James147: that script at the end of the file works!  and works very well!!  I'm adding that to my bin
[22:06] <James147> shane4ubuntu: unzip -c document.odt | grep "pattern"     seems to work :)
[22:06] <shane4ubuntu> James147: thanks!  Much appreciated!  Happy new year
[22:07] <shane4ubuntu> did you see that last script, it allows you search recursively through folders, I have folders organized by date and locations, and finding something in there is a nightmare, however finding where I taught somethine and when is very effective.
[22:20] <MrUnagi> where is xorg.conf
[22:28] <shane4ubuntu> MrUnagi: should be in /etc/X11/   however I heard that it wasn't being used any longer too.
[22:28] <Daskreech> MrUnagi: Not used anymore unless you make it
[22:28] <MrUnagi> yea thats werid
[22:28] <MrUnagi> im so behind in the times :d
[22:28] <shane4ubuntu> MrUnagi: join the club.
[22:28] <shane4ubuntu> Daskreech: must be that Nvidia and ATI both create it upon driver installation?
[22:29] <Daskreech> They do
[22:29] <shane4ubuntu> mine is real generic besides that.
[22:29] <shane4ubuntu> ok, I'm off, probably till next year!  Happy New Year all!
[22:36] <James147> ^^ also "sudo Xorg -configure" will generate one but needs to be run when x iesnt
[22:42] <marion> so does anyone know what to do to fix a flash crash
[22:44] <marion> hello
[22:45] <James147> hello marion
[22:46] <marion> Hey James147 when i try yo go fullscreen on youtube it tells me that flash plugin has crashed
[22:46] <James147> marion: any error?
[22:47] <marion> no report available
[22:47] <James147> marion: what exactly happens?
[22:48] <marion> i go to hit fullscreen and it just crashed
[22:48] <James147> marion: crashes how?
[22:49] <marion> i,ll print screen it
[22:53] <marion> now were can i upload it to
[22:53] <James147> !pastebin
[22:55] <marion> http://imagebin.org/130474
[22:56] <James147> marion: how did you install it?
[22:57] <marion> i cant remember its beein working for a while
[22:58] <marion> and it works fine watching it without expanding it
[22:59] <James147> marion: well, you could try reinstalling it: "sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-installer && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer"
[23:03] <tsimpson> the package flashplugin-installer is just that, an installer
[23:03] <marion> trying now
[23:03] <tsimpson> it just downloads it from adobe.com
[23:04] <tsimpson> reinstalling will not reinstall the plugin, which would make no difference anyway, unless you somehow changed the plugins
[23:04] <tsimpson> -s
[23:04] <marion> ok tsimpson what do i do then
[23:05] <tsimpson> there's not a lot one can do, other than report the problem to adobe and hope they care
[23:05] <tsimpson> you can try with another browser, but that's unlikely to help
[23:06] <tsimpson> perhaps disabling desktop effects (compositing) may help too
[23:07] <tsimpson> or switch back from/to the proprietary video driver for your graphics
[23:09] <marion> i cant do anything with my graphics card ati stopped supporting it
[23:12] <marion> are there any themes for kubuntu
[23:13] <iogui> Hello, dudes
[23:14] <iogui> sound is not working on firefox 3.6 flash plugin
[23:15] <James147> marion: yes
[23:17] <marion> James147 were and how
[23:17] <James147> marion: look in system settings
[23:19] <iogui> I'm gona remove it and install the bz2 file...
[23:19] <iogui> someone knows another way to solve the problem?