| Red_ | does it look like i do? | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| nit-wit | Red_, my mistake you are correct alright you all carry on I will step out.:) | 00:00 |
| ShootEmUp | looks like you got 1 winload | 00:00 |
| ShootEmUp | thats what starts windows7 | 00:00 |
| Red_ | ok...so what does that mean? | 00:00 |
| ShootEmUp | the first one is windows 7 boot partition | 00:01 |
| ShootEmUp | what is the maker of your laptop? | 00:01 |
| ShootEmUp | or whatever it is | 00:01 |
| Red_ | ok. so what are the others? | 00:01 |
| Red_ | HP compaq | 00:02 |
| ShootEmUp | okay, sda3 is your recovery partitions, and the last one is HP tools | 00:02 |
| Red_ | whats HP tools? | 00:02 |
| ShootEmUp | crapware HP thinks you need | 00:03 |
| ShootEmUp | just leave sda1,3,4 alone | 00:03 |
| ShootEmUp | sda2 is the one you want to shink, so boot into windows at this time | 00:03 |
| Red_ | ok what is it though? | 00:03 |
| ShootEmUp | HP tools is like the BIOS updater and crap like that | 00:04 |
| ShootEmUp | stuff most people never use | 00:04 |
| ShootEmUp | don't delete it, I don't know what will happen | 00:04 |
| Red_ | i dont even know how. | 00:05 |
| ShootEmUp | we are going to shink your partition via windows, so boot into windows | 00:05 |
| Red_ | ok so the second one is the HP tools and were shrinking that one? | 00:07 |
| ShootEmUp | no, we will be shinking your windows 7 patition, sda2 | 00:07 |
| ShootEmUp | but you have to do it from windows to be safe | 00:08 |
| Red_ | ok. brb. ill keep Black on though. | 00:08 |
| ShootEmUp | you don;t have to, but it's slightly safer that way | 00:08 |
| black | K win7 is booting. | 00:10 |
| ShootEmUp | http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/2672-partition-volume-shrink.html, here is how to do it, but I can just tell you how | 00:11 |
| black | Ok that's probably better. Just let me get the irc up on my pc first | 00:12 |
| ShootEmUp | okay | 00:12 |
| Red_ | hey. | 00:13 |
| ShootEmUp | hey | 00:13 |
| Red_ | kk so how do i do this? | 00:13 |
| ShootEmUp | click on start, then RIGHT click on computer and click manage | 00:13 |
| Red_ | Done. | 00:14 |
| ShootEmUp | go to disk management | 00:14 |
| Red_ | done | 00:15 |
| ShootEmUp | right click on your C: drive and click on Shink Volume | 00:15 |
| ShootEmUp | it should Query for avalable shink space | 00:16 |
| Red_ | Done. | 00:16 |
| Red_ | its quarying. | 00:16 |
| Red_ | how much space will this limit my Win7 side to? i still need it for everyday stuff as well as school. | 00:16 |
| ShootEmUp | Ubuntu can run on as little as 5GB, but I recomend atleast 10-15GB | 00:17 |
| ShootEmUp | you will set how much space to give to ubuntu | 00:17 |
| Red_ | oh ok thats fine. | 00:18 |
| Red_ | still querying. | 00:18 |
| ShootEmUp | can take awile | 00:18 |
| Red_ | while that limit go for thing i DL to ubuntu and win7, or will they still share the extra space when it comes to DLing? (tbw its done) | 00:19 |
| ShootEmUp | you will have to get something that can read ubuntu partitions | 00:20 |
| Red_ | what do you mean? | 00:20 |
| ShootEmUp | ubuntu can read windows partitions out of the box | 00:20 |
| Red_ | ok.......... still dont get it. | 00:21 |
| ShootEmUp | but windows cannot read ext2,3,4 without 3rd party tools | 00:21 |
| ShootEmUp | please note READ, not WRITE | 00:21 |
| Red_ | ok so unbuntu can read anything that windows has on it? | 00:22 |
| ShootEmUp | to write to windows partitions, ubuntu need ntfs-3gconfig | 00:22 |
| ShootEmUp | right | 00:22 |
| Red_ | ok do i need to get it now? | 00:23 |
| ShootEmUp | ubuntu can write if you install ntfs-3g config, but that is done after install | 00:23 |
| Red_ | oh so it goes in automatically? | 00:24 |
| ShootEmUp | no i'll tell you how later, lets shink the windows partition now | 00:24 |
| Red_ | ok. its done querying. | 00:25 |
| ShootEmUp | how much space do you want to give to ubuntu? | 00:25 |
| Red_ | what will that affect, speed? | 00:25 |
| ShootEmUp | no, just how much crap you can put on it | 00:25 |
| ShootEmUp | 15GB is good for a start | 00:26 |
| Red_ | ok. ill go with that then. can i change this later if it comes down to that? | 00:26 |
| ShootEmUp | you can shink ubuntu partition just fine | 00:26 |
| ShootEmUp | then extend windows into that space | 00:27 |
| Red_ | can i do the opposite and add space? | 00:27 |
| ShootEmUp | yes, just always shink windows from Disk Management | 00:27 |
| ShootEmUp | might screw up if you use gparted | 00:28 |
| Red_ | ok got it. so what do i put in the text box to shrink it? | 00:28 |
| ShootEmUp | how much space can you shink it by? | 00:28 |
| ShootEmUp | it should say in the line above it | 00:28 |
| Red_ | 859938 MB. | 00:29 |
| Red_ | sorry 85938 | 00:29 |
| ShootEmUp | about 85GB | 00:29 |
| ShootEmUp | how much do you want to give Ubuntu> | 00:29 |
| ShootEmUp | ? | 00:29 |
| Red_ | holy crap! wasn't expecting THAT much! i guess ill go with 15 GB like you said and add later if i have to. | 00:30 |
| ShootEmUp | lol, okay. put in 15360 as how much to shink it by | 00:30 |
| Red_ | ok done. | 00:31 |
| ShootEmUp | hit shink! | 00:31 |
| ShootEmUp | it might take awile | 00:31 |
| Red_ | ok i hit it. | 00:32 |
| ShootEmUp | crap, I gotta go eat now, ttyl | 00:32 |
| ShootEmUp | be back soon! | 00:32 |
| Red_ | kk ttyl. when will you be back? | 00:32 |
| Red_ | oh sry | 00:32 |
| ShootEmUp | 1 hour tops | 00:32 |
| Red_ | k cya. | 00:33 |
| Red_ | hey anyone else in here? | 00:33 |
| Red_ | hello | 00:33 |
| UndiFineD | yes | 00:34 |
| Red_ | so i just started the partition of my HD | 00:34 |
| Red_ | should it have finished already? it took like 15 seconds. | 00:35 |
| UndiFineD | it can take a while | 00:35 |
| Red_ | yah but its already done i think. | 00:35 |
| UndiFineD | depending on the fragmentation of the windows disk | 00:35 |
| UndiFineD | worst case it has to move 15 gb of data before shrink can happen | 00:36 |
| Red_ | it shows 15 GB in unallocated. so i guess it worked, but shouldn't it have taken much longer? | 00:36 |
| UndiFineD | it uses sector to sector copy, instead of doing it filesystem nicely | 00:36 |
| Red_ | ....what? | 00:37 |
| UndiFineD | which is why, when you would boot back into windows thay ask to use chackdisk | 00:37 |
| UndiFineD | ... ok, so now you have empty space to partition | 00:37 |
| UndiFineD | is this your first time Red_ ? | 00:38 |
| Red_ | yes. but it seems like it happened to quickly. i guess its nothing. anyways..... | 00:38 |
| Red_ | what gave it away? | 00:38 |
| UndiFineD | the md5sum | 00:39 |
| Red_ | what, a few hours ago? | 00:39 |
| UndiFineD | :) | 00:39 |
| Red_ | its no secret. the people on this forum have basically been hold my hand through the install process. | 00:40 |
| Red_ | Chat* | 00:40 |
| UndiFineD | well we do want happy users | 00:40 |
| UndiFineD | so on the empty space you can create a new partition | 00:40 |
| UndiFineD | or multiple | 00:41 |
| Red_ | im glad. ive been to many forums where noobs are treated as idiots. Linux people have been great. | 00:41 |
| Red_ | ok how do i do that? | 00:41 |
| UndiFineD | I often recommend using 3 | 00:41 |
| Red_ | 3 partitions? why? | 00:41 |
| Red_ | i only need one for ubuntu. | 00:41 |
| UndiFineD | one for root /, one for swap (memory sized) and one for /home (user | 00:42 |
| Red_ | um, ok. whats swap and /home? | 00:42 |
| UndiFineD | gnu/linux uses a swap file to store what cannot fit in memory, making it slightly bigger than internal memory so it can hybernate to disk is nice to have | 00:43 |
| UndiFineD | in generl only few times it is needed | 00:43 |
| UndiFineD | one could do without it too | 00:44 |
| Red_ | so what is /home? | 00:44 |
| UndiFineD | it is the partition space where the users live | 00:45 |
| UndiFineD | having it separate from root ( / ) means a user filling up its partition cannot interfere system operation | 00:45 |
| UndiFineD | making it more stable | 00:46 |
| nit-wit | Red_, hows it going just checking in | 00:46 |
| Red_ | k so root is where the root directory goes, home is where your user setttings are, and swap is for extra memory when linux runs out? | 00:46 |
| UndiFineD | yes | 00:47 |
| Red_ | oh im about to set up the three new partitions on the shrinked space i created | 00:47 |
| UndiFineD | how much system memory do you have ? | 00:47 |
| nit-wit | Red_, did you remove a partition | 00:47 |
| Red_ | No. i shrunk one. | 00:48 |
| UndiFineD | he shrunk windows by 15 gb | 00:48 |
| Red_ | UndiFineD, do you mean the total HD space? | 00:48 |
| UndiFineD | no internal memory | 00:49 |
| UndiFineD | something like 1GB or 1024MB | 00:49 |
| Red_ | RAM> | 00:49 |
| Red_ | ? | 00:49 |
| UndiFineD | it is usually counted during bootup | 00:49 |
| nit-wit | Red_, you can't any if you have four primaries already | 00:49 |
| Red_ | um, ok. | 00:49 |
| Red_ | you mean RAM? | 00:50 |
| UndiFineD | yes | 00:50 |
| Red_ | ok i have 2GB. | 00:50 |
| nit-wit | UndiFineD, this computer has 4 primaries | 00:50 |
| UndiFineD | ok great, | 00:50 |
| Red_ | so, what do i do then nit-wit? | 00:50 |
| UndiFineD | nit-wit: really ? | 00:50 |
| nit-wit | Red we need to get on the correct track here. First you have 4 partitions 2 are hp formware and a boot, one os the main OS and one is a recovery | 00:51 |
| Red_ | ok..... | 00:51 |
| nit-wit | Red_, have you done a backup of the OS | 00:52 |
| Red_ | yes. | 00:52 |
| Red_ | that bad? | 00:52 |
| UndiFineD | pfff recovery ... where is the time they just gave you a cd | 00:52 |
| nit-wit | Red_, cool so what will probably happen with a dual boot is you will loose that recovery trigger | 00:52 |
| Red_ | i do have a backup on an exteral HD, and its more recent, so thats ok. | 00:53 |
| nit-wit | UndiFineD, I agree, but generally easily obtained | 00:53 |
| Red_ | ok so now what? | 00:53 |
| nit-wit | Red_, I would just remove the sda3 and then you camn make a extended amd put your partitions in it | 00:54 |
| UndiFineD | I am thinking .. removal of such a partition | 00:54 |
| nit-wit | Red_, you only show a C correct? | 00:55 |
| Red_ | only a c drive? yes. | 00:55 |
| UndiFineD | nit-wit: you have a link to his partitioning scheme ? | 00:55 |
| nit-wit | uni | 00:55 |
| Red_ | i have it hold on. | 00:55 |
| nit-wit | UndiFineD, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1656275 | 00:55 |
| Red_ | oh thx. | 00:56 |
| nit-wit | UndiFineD, pretty regular setup if you have it covered I will not interrupt I have just been concerned here, and this is one of my stronger ares. | 00:57 |
| nit-wit | *areas | 00:57 |
| Red_ | i dont mind if you stay. its actually better to have multiple opinions. | 00:57 |
| UndiFineD | go ahead then I might learn a few from you | 00:57 |
| UndiFineD | dualboot is not my strongpoint | 00:58 |
| UndiFineD | I use ubuntu only | 00:58 |
| nit-wit | UndiFineD, The full boot files are on the main OS sda2 we could probably remove even more but just trying to make space that works. | 00:58 |
| Red_ | my end goal is triple boot with OSx as well, but thats a long way off for me. | 00:59 |
| nit-wit | Red_, I would just remove the recovery sda3 | 00:59 |
| Red_ | ok. why? i would still need one more free partition. | 00:59 |
| UndiFineD | no, the user and swap can be in extensed partition space | 01:00 |
| UndiFineD | in extented partition space | 01:00 |
| nit-wit | Red_, are you on the Ubuntu cd | 01:00 |
| Red_ | no im in Win7. but i can get in it if you need me to. | 01:00 |
| nit-wit | Red_, To build partitions for Ubuntu you will need to be on the Live cd | 01:01 |
| nit-wit | Red_, Windows doesn't make the correct partitions | 01:01 |
| Red_ | ok. shootemup said not to do it from gparted, but he may have just been talking about shrinking. | 01:03 |
| nit-wit | Red_, so I don't know where your at if your still in windows can you take a screen shot of the disk manager | 01:03 |
| Red_ | i guess. where would i post it/ | 01:04 |
| nit-wit | Red_, correct on the shrinking , and also the removal of one partition | 01:04 |
| nit-wit | Red_, hold on | 01:04 |
| Red_ | but aren't you telling be to remove a partition right now? | 01:04 |
| nit-wit | Red_, her is a imagebin.http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add | 01:04 |
| nit-wit | *here | 01:04 |
| Red_ | here you go: http://imagebin.org/130324 | 01:08 |
| nit-wit | Red_, thsnkd hold on | 01:08 |
| nit-wit | Red_, okay you have srunk C tha s good but in order to put anything there one partition has to go I suggest the sd3 it is right next to the unallocated, and you have a backup so that would be my advice. | 01:10 |
| nit-wit | *shrunk | 01:10 |
| Red_ | ok. give me a sec | 01:10 |
| Red_ | ok so on recovery i right click and hit delete volume? | 01:11 |
| nit-wit | yes | 01:12 |
| Red_ | ok. doing it now. | 01:12 |
| nit-wit | Red_, wont be usable with a dual boot anyway | 01:12 |
| Red_ | you mean if i did dual boot the recovery would be destroyed anyways? | 01:13 |
| Red_ | and its recovery (:D) right? | 01:13 |
| nit-wit | Red_, access to it probably would be you would be lucky if it was, the bootloaders change with the dual booting | 01:13 |
| Red_ | ok. im deleting it now. | 01:14 |
| nit-wit | Red_, this D partiti?on has never shown in computer you don't have access to it correct | 01:14 |
| nit-wit | Red_, D only shows in the disk manager | 01:14 |
| Red_ | yes i do. i click computer and it comes up as of of the drives. | 01:15 |
| nit-wit | Red_, have you ever opened it | 01:15 |
| Red_ | yes ive made a recovery on it. why? | 01:15 |
| nit-wit | Red okay so it was the original D drive you made a recovery to it. You have another recovery on a external correct | 01:16 |
| Red_ | yes. it was made on christmas day, so it should be good. in fact the recovery in the D partition is way outdated. | 01:17 |
| nit-wit | Red_, just being extra cautious here so no other parts of the S in D | 01:17 |
| nit-wit | 8OS | 01:18 |
| nit-wit | *os | 01:18 |
| nit-wit | Red_, so D has nothing but or had nothing but the recovery made | 01:19 |
| Red_ | yes. i dont recall ever putting anything except a recovery on it. had no reason to. | 01:19 |
| nit-wit | Red_, so its gone now or just dekete it where are we at. | 01:20 |
| Red_ | im deleting it now. | 01:20 |
| nit-wit | Red_, cool so we should at the least reboot vista just to make sure its running and booting should be it may run a auto chkdsk. | 01:21 |
| Red_ | its win7. and whats auto chkdsk? | 01:22 |
| nit-wit | Red_, a chkdsk is a system check sometimes when you resize a partition it just automatically run on restart | 01:23 |
| Red_ | ok so delete it and then restart, and it will run on its own? | 01:23 |
| nit-wit | Red_, correct remove that partition then reboot back to W7 we are just making sure its sound | 01:24 |
| nit-wit | Red_, the sda3 partion D | 01:24 |
| Red_ | ok. do you want me to ping you when im talking to you? | 01:24 |
| nit-wit | Red_, sure what exactly is that | 01:24 |
| Red_ | ...pinging? | 01:25 |
| nit-wit | red2kic, is that the tab for the red color | 01:25 |
| nit-wit | Red_, wron person oops | 01:25 |
| UndiFineD | 2:25am I am off | 01:25 |
| UndiFineD | Red_: good luck | 01:25 |
| Red_ | s'ok. yes. the thing that makes it beep | 01:25 |
| nit-wit | UndiFineD, sleep the dreams | 01:26 |
| Red_ | brb. restarting. | 01:26 |
| Red_ | same to you. | 01:26 |
| nit-wit | Red_, sur I will be on the channel and I left you a message on your thread as weel | 01:26 |
| nit-wit | *sure | 01:26 |
| nit-wit | I can't spell OMG | 01:27 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | halp!! | 01:28 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | about to go on a tyraid | 01:28 |
| black | Hey this is my alt for when I'm redrafting my pc. I'm on my iPod touch. And I saw ur comment, thx! | 01:28 |
| black | *restarting. And it booted fine. | 01:29 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | i can't get into a device with terminal by only the uuid | 01:29 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | d84b3300-5872-40dd-85f6-44a5e7be21cc | 01:30 |
| Red__ | hey. | 01:30 |
| nit-wit | red2kic, hey you in w7 | 01:30 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | can someone help me? | 01:31 |
| Red__ | so it booted fine. yes i am. | 01:31 |
| nit-wit | Red__, so we just need to boot the live Ubuntu cd and we can get you going | 01:31 |
| Red__ | ok. ill reboot then. peace. | 01:32 |
| black | Linux booting takes forever. Amazing though. A full os on 2 gb of ram.... | 01:34 |
| black | K I'm booting into trial now. | 01:36 |
| stlsaint | black: what distro you runnign that takes forever? | 01:36 |
| stlsaint | shawn146|ubuntu: you need help? | 01:36 |
| nit-wit | black, when you in linux lets get a screen shot of gparted. http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add | 01:37 |
| black | .....ubuntu. | 01:37 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | yesss | 01:37 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | been trying to in #ubuntu and #JLime for hours | 01:37 |
| stlsaint | shawn146|ubuntu: whats up/ | 01:37 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | blod seat and tears lol | 01:37 |
| nit-wit | shawn146|ubuntu, whats the problem | 01:37 |
| black | Ok it's booted. Give me a few. | 01:38 |
| nit-wit | shawn146|ubuntu, into device what does tthat mean | 01:38 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | i have a compact flash device that has been partitioned into 3 partitions, i amde the partitions | 01:39 |
| nit-wit | stlsaint, go for it | 01:39 |
| nit-wit | :) | 01:39 |
| stlsaint | nit-wit: lol | 01:39 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | i can't figure out how to navigate into the folder with terminal | 01:39 |
| stlsaint | shawn146|ubuntu: you lost me, you just went from partitions to terminal commands? | 01:40 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | yea | 01:41 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | i am trying tog et into the device directory so i can jxdf | 01:41 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | or what it was | 01:41 |
| Red_ | hey. can you repost the image dump thing nit-wit? | 01:42 |
| nit-wit | http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add | 01:42 |
| Red_ | thanks. | 01:42 |
| stlsaint | jxdf? | 01:42 |
| nit-wit | Red_, indubitably "chip monks" | 01:42 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | trying to untar icewm-image-Mongo-08.07.08.tar.bz2 | 01:43 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | into the folder | 01:43 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | i can't without sudo | 01:43 |
| Red_ | what nit-wit? | 01:43 |
| nit-wit | Red_, I'm agreeing like the chipmonks due if your familiar with them | 01:43 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | the untar command for terminal | 01:43 |
| nit-wit | *do | 01:43 |
| stlsaint | shawn146|ubuntu: untar -xvvf <path_to_tar> | 01:44 |
| Red_ | alvan and the chpimoks? | 01:44 |
| Red_ | monks* | 01:44 |
| nit-wit | Red_, yeah | 01:44 |
| Red_ | lol ok then, | 01:44 |
| Red_ | http://imagebin.org/130327 there you go nit-wit | 01:46 |
| nit-wit | Red_, thanks hold on | 01:46 |
| Red_ | im in love. ubuntu feels so much better and less scripted than win7. | 01:47 |
| webjocky | grats. hope I can eventually get it up and going too. | 01:47 |
| nit-wit | Red_, cool thats what we are looking for so right click the unallocated and make a extended partition, the hit the run button to make it | 01:47 |
| nit-wit | Red_, 28 giga is okay right | 01:48 |
| nit-wit | *gigs | 01:48 |
| Red_ | whats with the extra unallocated? | 01:48 |
| Red_ | well isnt 15 normal? | 01:48 |
| nit-wit | Red at the end of the partition | 01:48 |
| nit-wit | Red_, it is just the way things are only one mib | 01:49 |
| Red_ | yah but why not just combine them? | 01:49 |
| Red_ | nit-wit | 01:50 |
| Red_ | did the ping work? | 01:50 |
| nit-wit | Red_, no real normal size really, we can go back to W7 and extend the C back in a bit but you have 140 gigs in the C open | 01:50 |
| nit-wit | Red_, I type slowly | 01:50 |
| nit-wit | Red_, you have a external as well | 01:51 |
| Red_ | yah but 28 leaves tons of room to add stuff to linux. and its fine, i do to. just checking to see if it worked. and yes i do, its 500GB. | 01:51 |
| nit-wit | Red_, yoj can't combine them | 01:51 |
| nit-wit | *you | 01:51 |
| Red_ | ok im doing what you said to. | 01:51 |
| Red_ | i cant make the extended partition. its not in the right click menu. | 01:53 |
| nit-wit | Red_, let me give you a picture hold on | 01:53 |
| nit-wit | Red_, so right click then new then there is a drop down see where mine says extended choose that.http://imagebin.org/130330 | 01:56 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | stlsaint i remember that one | 01:57 |
| Red_ | create as>extended partition? ok. | 01:57 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | but getting into the actual device directory | 01:57 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | nautilus calls it the 215 MB Filesystem | 01:57 |
| nit-wit | Red_, so we do the same thing again inside the extended and make a ext 4 it is in the dropdown right below the exteded picture. But you want to have a swap how much ram do you have and do you want to use the hibernate option | 01:59 |
| Red_ | 2 GB and what is hibernate nit-wit? | 01:59 |
| nit-wit | Red_, Hibernate shuts down the computer and brings it back to where you were like what was open etc, but it takes as long as booting never use it myself | 02:00 |
| Red_ | well then whats the point, to save power? | 02:01 |
| nit-wit | Red_, not sure really some people use it for what ever i don't know really it is just a feature I guess | 02:02 |
| nit-wit | Red_, did you get the extended made | 02:03 |
| stlsaint | shawn146|ubuntu: what device are you trying to get into? | 02:03 |
| Red_ | ok then no. i can do similer things with power options o believe. anyways, here's the new gparted: http://imagebin.org/130332 so now i do the same thing to the new partition #1? | 02:04 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | a compact flash card | 02:04 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | i ahve it mounted | 02:04 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | *have | 02:04 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | on ubuntu livecd | 02:04 |
| ShootEmUp | hey Red_ | 02:04 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | studioxps | 02:04 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | dell | 02:04 |
| Red_ | hey. im creating the new partition extensions. im in linux now. | 02:04 |
| nit-wit | ShootEmUp, hey man we are rioght at a graet part if you want to do this | 02:04 |
| nit-wit | *right | 02:04 |
| ShootEmUp | okay, what is it? | 02:05 |
| stlsaint | shawn146|ubuntu: where is it mounted? | 02:05 |
| nit-wit | ShootEmUp, hold on we are just building the extended inside and here is a gparted shot http://imagebin.org/130327 | 02:05 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | sdd2 | 02:06 |
| Red_ | theres a newer one above. | 02:06 |
| stlsaint | shawn146|ubuntu: is it at /media/sdd2 ? | 02:06 |
| Red_ | so now i do the same thing to the new partition #1? | 02:06 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | well it sby uuid | 02:06 |
| nit-wit | ShootEmUp, we removed the recovery to get a 4th for the extended | 02:07 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | i can see the directory in nautilus | 02:07 |
| Red_ | like create an extended partition? | 02:07 |
| Red_ | yah but its cool cause i have it backed up on an external HD. | 02:07 |
| stlsaint | shawn146|ubuntu: sby uuid? | 02:07 |
| stlsaint | shawn146|ubuntu: what is sby?? | 02:07 |
| ShootEmUp | If you create a logical partition, it will automaticly put it in a extened partition | 02:07 |
| Red_ | whats the difference? | 02:08 |
| ShootEmUp | for ubuntu, none | 02:08 |
| ShootEmUp | you can have unlimited logical partitions, but only 4 primarys | 02:09 |
| Red_ | ok. nit-wit, i do it to new partition #1 right? or another one? | 02:09 |
| stlsaint | shawn146|ubuntu: if the card is mounted ad sdd2 than enter the directory with: cd /media/sdd2 | 02:09 |
| nit-wit | a logical will only go in a extended it wont build both, there is only room for one extnded for a logical and a swap | 02:09 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/7142/compactflashext2part.png | 02:10 |
| Red_ | so then i create a logical in new partition #1 then? | 02:10 |
| ShootEmUp | yes | 02:11 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | no such file or directory | 02:11 |
| nit-wit | Red_, we are getting off track shootemup we just need a exteded filling the unalloctaed to begin with | 02:11 |
| nit-wit | ShootEmUp, you have this correct | 02:11 |
| ShootEmUp | okay, make a partition in the 28GB part | 02:12 |
| nit-wit | ShootEmUp, you want to help them finish off I can help others | 02:12 |
| ShootEmUp | just fill it all the way, It won't make it yet so don't worrry | 02:12 |
| ShootEmUp | nit-wit, sure | 02:12 |
| Red_ | ok so my Gparted looks like this. http://imagebin.org/130332 what now? | 02:12 |
| nit-wit | ShootEmUp, cool thanks you all | 02:12 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_, where it says unallocated, right click and select make new or something like that | 02:13 |
| Red_ | why does it still say one operation pending? | 02:14 |
| ShootEmUp | because it hasn't done anything yet | 02:14 |
| ShootEmUp | It will don't worry | 02:14 |
| Red_ | ok then... | 02:14 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | hmm | 02:15 |
| stlsaint | shawn146|ubuntu: do you get any errors? | 02:15 |
| Red_ | ok so make new loagical or exteneded? | 02:15 |
| ShootEmUp | logical | 02:15 |
| Red_ | ok done. | 02:16 |
| ShootEmUp | what did you set the file system to> | 02:17 |
| Red_ | i didnt change it. | 02:17 |
| Red_ | should i have? | 02:17 |
| ShootEmUp | I think it defaults to ext2, you should change that to ext4 | 02:18 |
| Red_ | is it too late? | 02:18 |
| ShootEmUp | no, right click and select format to > ext4 | 02:18 |
| Red_ | ok got it. | 02:19 |
| ShootEmUp | now we need swap, how much ram does your computer have? I think 2GB | 02:19 |
| Red_ | yes. | 02:20 |
| Red_ | hey is this what i want right now? http://imagebin.org/130335 | 02:21 |
| ShootEmUp | wile I don't recomend it you can actuly skip swap, but I recomend 1GB swap | 02:21 |
| ShootEmUp | shink your current ext4 by 1024MB | 02:22 |
| Red_ | while in lunux? | 02:22 |
| ShootEmUp | right click > resize/move | 02:22 |
| Red_ | ok but in that pic up the re^ is everything right? | 02:23 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | oiyh | 02:23 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | being ignored everywhere | 02:23 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_, everything is fine | 02:23 |
| ShootEmUp | Open the Resize/Move on the ext4 partition | 02:24 |
| stlsaint | shawn146|ubuntu: is your issue resolved? | 02:24 |
| Red_ | ok good. so i thought you said not to in linux? | 02:24 |
| stlsaint | shawn146|ubuntu: being ignored?? You are not responding to my questions... | 02:24 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_, your resizing the linux partition | 02:25 |
| ShootEmUp | nothing has been done yet | 02:25 |
| Red_ | oh right sry. | 02:25 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_, put the "Free space following (MiB)" to 1024 | 02:26 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | oh | 02:26 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | sorry | 02:26 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | was sayign good by to the heater replacement guys | 02:26 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | bye | 02:26 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | * | 02:26 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | this issue has been troubling me for hours | 02:26 |
| Red_ | ok so i change any of ther other values? | 02:27 |
| ShootEmUp | no | 02:27 |
| stlsaint | shawn146|ubuntu: well i asked you if you were getting any errors when trying to get into the directory | 02:27 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_, click resize/move | 02:27 |
| Red_ | alright. hting rezise. | 02:27 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | ic an'tg et in at all | 02:27 |
| Red_ | done. | 02:27 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | i simply don't knwo the path | 02:27 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | *know | 02:28 |
| Red_ | what next? | 02:28 |
| stlsaint | shawn146|ubuntu: open a terminal | 02:28 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_, you should have a 1gb unallocated space after your ext4 partition | 02:28 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | have one opened | 02:28 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | with a lot of commands | 02:28 |
| stlsaint | shawn146|ubuntu: enter the command: cd /media | 02:28 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_, right click on it and click New | 02:28 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | i see the one i need | 02:28 |
| Red_ | 1 MiB? yes. | 02:29 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | ls i see all the media | 02:29 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_, 1GB | 02:29 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | d84b3300-5872-40dd-85f6-44a5e7be21cc | 02:29 |
| Red_ | new what? | 02:29 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | ... | 02:29 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | wow | 02:29 |
| stlsaint | shawn146|ubuntu: so use the cd command to enter it | 02:29 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_, not the 1MiB space at the end of the drive | 02:29 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | that simple lol | 02:29 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | i finally got into it | 02:30 |
| Red_ | right the one in ext 4 | 02:30 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | ima total noob to linux | 02:30 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_, the 1GB space at the end of the ext4 partitioon | 02:30 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | what was that extract command | 02:30 |
| Red_ | i know. so new what? | 02:30 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_, right click on the unallocated space and click on New | 02:30 |
| Red_ | Iknow. then new what? | 02:31 |
| ShootEmUp | change the File System to linux-swap | 02:31 |
| Red_ | logiacl right? | 02:31 |
| ShootEmUp | yes | 02:31 |
| stlsaint | shawn146|ubuntu: tar -xvvf nomnomnom.tar | 02:31 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | .bz2? | 02:32 |
| Red_ | done. now what/ | 02:32 |
| Red_ | ?* | 02:32 |
| ShootEmUp | Click Add | 02:32 |
| stlsaint | shawn146|ubuntu: right click the .bz2 and choose to extract it, then transfer it over to the drive | 02:32 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_, now put up another screenshot, I just wanna make sure | 02:33 |
| Red_ | "partition can not add" | 02:33 |
| ShootEmUp | ? | 02:33 |
| ShootEmUp | any erorr mesages? | 02:33 |
| Red_ | yah give me a minute. | 02:34 |
| Red_ | http://imagebin.org/130338 here | 02:35 |
| ShootEmUp | ahh, make the linux-swap on the space BEFORE the ext4 partition | 02:36 |
| Red_ | ohhhhhhhhh sry. | 02:36 |
| ShootEmUp | my bad | 02:36 |
| Red_ | k its done. | 02:37 |
| ShootEmUp | THEN, post another screenshot, just wanna make sure before we destroy everything (JK) | 02:37 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | stlsaint i did hours ago..and it said i had no permission | 02:38 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | thats what i need sudo for | 02:38 |
| Red_ | here you go: http://imagebin.org/130339 | 02:39 |
| ShootEmUp | you may now hit the green check at the top of the screen | 02:39 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | ok i sudo tar -xvvf icewm-image-Mongo-08.07.08.tar.bz2 | 02:40 |
| Red_ | is this the big button that will make it go boom? | 02:40 |
| ShootEmUp | yup | 02:40 |
| Red_ | k its going. | 02:40 |
| ShootEmUp | It may take some time | 02:41 |
| ShootEmUp | not long because your make new partition insted of resizing | 02:41 |
| Red_ | its already done. whats the save details thing? | 02:42 |
| ShootEmUp | just to save a txt saying what you did | 02:42 |
| ShootEmUp | you can skip that | 02:43 |
| Red_ | oh ok. | 02:43 |
| ShootEmUp | now time to install! | 02:43 |
| Red_ | ok now what do i do? | 02:43 |
| Red_ | YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY! | 02:43 |
| ShootEmUp | double click on the Install Ubuntu 10.10 icon on your desktop | 02:43 |
| Red_ | how do i that? reboot and at the prompt hit install right? | 02:44 |
| Red_ | oh ok got it. | 02:44 |
| ShootEmUp | no. just click on the icon | 02:44 |
| ShootEmUp | when you get to partitioning click on manual | 02:44 |
| ShootEmUp | I'll talk you thru it | 02:44 |
| Red_ | do i install thrid party software and updates? | 02:45 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | tar: icewm-image-Mongo-08.07.08.tar.bz2: Cannot open: No such file or directory | 02:45 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now | 02:45 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | 02:45 | |
| ShootEmUp | Red_, if you want to play mp3s, sure | 02:46 |
| stlsaint | shawn146|ubuntu: did you try sudo before it? | 02:46 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | yes | 02:46 |
| Red_ | ShootEmUp, so yes to both? | 02:46 |
| ShootEmUp | yes, to both | 02:46 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | sudo tar -xvvf icewm-image-Mongo-08.07.08.tar.bz2 | 02:47 |
| holstein | shawn146|ubuntu: try including the path | 02:47 |
| holstein | using tab-complete as you go | 02:48 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | where in there | 02:48 |
| holstein | to be sure you're pointing to it | 02:48 |
| holstein | *try | 02:48 |
| holstein | "try" | 02:48 |
| Red_ | ShootEmUp, im at the part where is says manual. pick that? | 02:48 |
| ShootEmUp | yes | 02:48 |
| Red_ | ok done. now what? | 02:49 |
| ShootEmUp | send me a screenshot (last one I promess!) | 02:49 |
| Red_ | S'ok, i dont mind. | 02:49 |
| Red_ | http://imagebin.org/130340 there you go ShootEmUp | 02:51 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | would it be /ubuntu/desktop? | 02:51 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_ scroll down to the one that is type ext4 | 02:52 |
| ShootEmUp | /dev/sda6 I think | 02:52 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | ? | 02:53 |
| Red_ | here you go: http://imagebin.org/130341 | 02:54 |
| ShootEmUp | okay single click on /dev/sda5 | 02:55 |
| ShootEmUp | then click on Change... | 02:55 |
| Red_ | done. | 02:56 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_, select Use as: ext4 | 02:56 |
| holstein | shawn146|ubuntu: can you navigate to the file? | 02:56 |
| holstein | the .tar.bz2 | 02:57 |
| holstein | and right-click on it | 02:57 |
| holstein | view properties | 02:57 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | yes | 02:57 |
| Red_ | journal fling? done. | 02:57 |
| holstein | and see its path? | 02:57 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | i did in the terminal | 02:57 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_ and then select mount point as / | 02:57 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ dir | 02:57 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | compactflashext2part.png Screenshot1.png | 02:57 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | examples.desktop Screenshot2.png | 02:57 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | icewm-image-Mongo-08.07.08.tar.bz2 ubiquity-gtkui.desktop | 02:57 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ | 02:57 |
| Red_ | just / and no more? | 02:57 |
| holstein | shawn146|ubuntu: is it on the desktop? | 02:57 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_, also select Format | 02:57 |
| holstein | the file? | 02:57 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | oops, didn't eman to copy entire folder | 02:57 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | yes | 02:57 |
| holstein | i thought it was on a USB stick | 02:57 |
| holstein | ? | 02:57 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | no | 02:57 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | i had to get access to a compact flash card plugged into the reader | 02:58 |
| holstein | shawn146|ubuntu: try sudo tar -xvvf the path/the file | 02:58 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | ah | 02:59 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | what would the path be> | 02:59 |
| Red_ | k done. here: http://imagebin.org/130343 | 02:59 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | for the desktop | 02:59 |
| holstein | sudo tar -xvvf /home/ubuntu/Desktop/whatever | 02:59 |
| holstein | shawn146|ubuntu: USE | 02:59 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | oh thank you | 02:59 |
| holstein | the tab key | 02:59 |
| holstein | to auto complete as you go | 02:59 |
| holstein | type | 02:59 |
| holstein | sudo tar -xvvf /ho | 02:59 |
| holstein | hit tab | 02:59 |
| holstein | then | 03:00 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | gotta work on that more | 03:00 |
| holstein | sudo tar -xvvf /home/ubun | 03:00 |
| holstein | hit tabe | 03:00 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | linux itself more | 03:00 |
| holstein | tab* | 03:00 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | it worked ty | 03:00 |
| holstein | so on | 03:00 |
| holstein | THEN | 03:00 |
| holstein | you'll know what you're looking for is actually there | 03:00 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_, hit OK | 03:00 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | now i need to get the updated kernal | 03:00 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | its in the card | 03:00 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | wow that was a lot of grief lol | 03:00 |
| holstein | shawn146|ubuntu: ?? | 03:00 |
| Red_ | done | 03:00 |
| holstein | this is a live CD? | 03:01 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | yes | 03:01 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | ubuntu livecd | 03:01 |
| holstein | well, i dont know what you're up to... | 03:01 |
| holstein | go for it :) | 03:01 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | lol | 03:01 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_, now single click on /dev/sda6, and then click on change | 03:01 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | i finally achieved what i was trying to do all day lol | 03:01 |
| Red_ | ShootEmUp, done. | 03:02 |
| ShootEmUp | okay, change the use as to "swap area" | 03:02 |
| Red_ | it was already on that. | 03:03 |
| ShootEmUp | I think It should allready say that | 03:03 |
| ShootEmUp | yup | 03:03 |
| ShootEmUp | just hit okay | 03:03 |
| Red_ | k done. | 03:03 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_, we are almost done, stay in the fight! also hit install now | 03:04 |
| Red_ | thats it? dont have to edit any of the other partitions? | 03:04 |
| ShootEmUp | nope | 03:04 |
| stlsaint | thewrath: hey man, long time no speak | 03:04 |
| thewrath | hey stlsaint | 03:04 |
| thewrath | yea | 03:04 |
| Red_ | Done. | 03:05 |
| thewrath | stlsaint what you been up to | 03:05 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_,now finish the questions, user name and password, ect | 03:06 |
| Red_ | kk working on it. | 03:06 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_, there is like nothing else, except if you want to be able to write to your windows partitions. | 03:07 |
| thewrath | any good free irc clients recommendations? | 03:07 |
| Red_ | why would i want to do that? | 03:08 |
| aveilleux | thewrath: Xchat | 03:08 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_, IDK | 03:08 |
| Red_ | then im good. | 03:08 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | ok backed up all the instructions and commands so i don't ahve to go through taht again lol | 03:08 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_, if you want to view your ubuntu files from windows, use ext2read | 03:08 |
| holstein | shawn146|ubuntu: i have to ask, what are you doing? | 03:09 |
| Red_ | im at where you put user name and password. i filled it all out, but the forward button wont light up. | 03:09 |
| ShootEmUp | password don't match? | 03:09 |
| Red_ | double checked. they do. | 03:10 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | oh installing JLime linux to my Jornada 720 | 03:10 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | using a 512MB sandisk Compact flash card | 03:10 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | partitioned | 03:10 |
| holstein | OK | 03:10 |
| Red_ | should it be better than "fair password" | 03:10 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_, all the boxes have something in them? | 03:10 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | ? | 03:10 |
| holstein | thats what the kernel is for then | 03:10 |
| Red_ | ? | 03:10 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | why u mad | 03:10 |
| Red_ | yes. | 03:10 |
| aveilleux | Red_: Make sure your username has no caps or spaces. | 03:10 |
| holstein | shawn146|ubuntu: me? | 03:10 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_, screenshot I guess | 03:11 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | yea | 03:11 |
| holstein | no that sounds like a fun project | 03:11 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | oh | 03:11 |
| Red_ | bumer. so the best i can do is red-raven? | 03:11 |
| ShootEmUp | yup | 03:11 |
| Red_ | awwwww.... oh well. | 03:11 |
| Red_ | worked. thx. | 03:11 |
| aveilleux | Red_: For your username, yes. Your real name can be whatever you want. | 03:12 |
| Red_ | k cool. | 03:12 |
| aveilleux | That's probably the most-often asked question in here. | 03:13 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | this was the error the first time i tried it (yesterday got the install process right) then it came upw itht his error http://jlime.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=3054&sid=eb6254f2e52651fb1be55d07e9fecb88 | 03:13 |
| aveilleux | "Stuck at the window where you enter username and pass, please help" | 03:14 |
| aveilleux | Always the same problem. | 03:14 |
| holstein | shawn146|ubuntu: drag | 03:14 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | ? | 03:14 |
| holstein | yeah, not a straight forward install there | 03:14 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_, okay, ext2read link http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2read/ | 03:14 |
| Red_ | ok idk if i would use it. i might get it later. | 03:15 |
| ShootEmUp | for reading your ubuntu files from windows | 03:15 |
| aveilleux | ShootEmUp, Red_: ext2read doesn't support ext4, afaik | 03:16 |
| ShootEmUp | aveilleux, I does now | 03:16 |
| aveilleux | When | 03:16 |
| ShootEmUp | I use it, but ext4 support is new | 03:16 |
| aveilleux | When was that implemented* | 03:16 |
| ShootEmUp | umm, Feb | 03:16 |
| aveilleux | Weird, it didn't work for me a few weeks ago. | 03:17 |
| ShootEmUp | http://ext2read.blogspot.com/2010/04/ext2read-22-released-now-with-lvm2-and.html | 03:17 |
| ShootEmUp | Sunday, April 11, 2010 | 03:17 |
| ShootEmUp | It's okay, I'm still lerning about this crap | 03:19 |
| aveilleux | ShootEmUp: Oh oh oh, this is just the reader. I thought you were talking about the filesystem driver. | 03:19 |
| Red_ | Thanks so much to everyone who helped me out. I really appreciate the patience you had with me. | 03:19 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | how do i copy a file by sudo in terminal? | 03:19 |
| aveilleux | Red_: No prob ;-) | 03:19 |
| aveilleux | shawn146|ubuntu: sudo cp file destination | 03:20 |
| holstein | shawn146|ubuntu: cp is copy | 03:20 |
| Red_ | so whats linux mobile? | 03:20 |
| ShootEmUp | aveilleux, no problem, Red_ It been fun helping you | 03:20 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | oh ok | 03:20 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | lets see of soemthing works | 03:20 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | i did sudo nautilus | 03:20 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | will that give my sudo rights in nautilus? | 03:20 |
| holstein | hmmm | 03:20 |
| holstein | not sure about that | 03:20 |
| aveilleux | shawn146|ubuntu: You really want to run graphical prigrams with gksudo | 03:21 |
| Red_ | its been fun gettin it to work. can't wait to put it to use. | 03:21 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | oh | 03:21 |
| aveilleux | shawn146|ubuntu: Sudo messes | 03:21 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | oh | 03:21 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_, It should almost be done now | 03:21 |
| aveilleux | Up ownership configuration* | 03:21 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | i got a buhc of error coding of that command | 03:21 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | sudo nautilus | 03:21 |
| aveilleux | shawn146|ubuntu: Ignore those, you'll | 03:21 |
| Red_ | 3 minutes remaining. | 03:22 |
| aveilleux | Get them anyway I HATE THIS TINY KEYBOARD | 03:22 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | i'll-? | 03:22 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | lol | 03:22 |
| ShootEmUp | aveilleux, lol | 03:22 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | ok so gksudo nautilus works? | 03:22 |
| aveilleux | Okay I really can't keep up properly on an iPod, see you all later | 03:22 |
| holstein | aveilleux: hehe | 03:23 |
| aveilleux | shawn146|ubuntu: Yes, it will work. Just make darn sure you know what you're doing. | 03:23 |
| holstein | laterx | 03:23 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | oh | 03:23 |
| nit-wit | Red_, go Red go Red go.:) | 03:23 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | ic an't find downloads folder | 03:23 |
| holstein | /home/you/Downloads | 03:23 |
| Red_ | lol so glad i finally picked a good handle. | 03:23 |
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| Red_ | ok its going to take more than 3 min. | 03:25 |
| nit-wit | Red_, on the forums we generally work together to help, it is not so kosher on the RC but it worked out well here eh | 03:25 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_ my install took about an hour | 03:25 |
| nit-wit | ShootEmUp, thanks for helping in the finish that is a tricky part to explain. | 03:26 |
| ShootEmUp | screenshots helped BIG | 03:26 |
| Red_ | well im really glad then cause i think i would have given up on the forums. this is so much faster. | 03:26 |
| ShootEmUp | Got something done in a day, the forums would have taken a week | 03:26 |
| ShootEmUp | Forums = good for one problem | 03:27 |
| ShootEmUp | IRC = good for alot of problems | 03:27 |
| Red_ | yah ive had to ask several questions for each tiny little step, and then a few more to understand them. | 03:28 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | who has used JLime? | 03:29 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_, glad I had done this before, else we could have broken something | 03:30 |
| Red_ | im glad i took my A.D.D pill when i did this, cause know i would have. | 03:31 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_ lol | 03:31 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | OMG | 03:32 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | kernal panic AGAIN | 03:32 |
| Red_ | dead seriouse. | 03:32 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | and nobody in #jlime responding | 03:32 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | this si geettign over frustrating | 03:32 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | for dayzz | 03:32 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_, okay everyone has problems. I didn't speek till I was 4 | 03:33 |
| Red_ | lol im proud of it. | 03:33 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_ would be like OMG WHAT THE **** AM I GONNA DO! | 03:34 |
| ShootEmUp | and start pounding on the keyboard | 03:34 |
| Red_ | brb got to......take care of some buizness. | 03:35 |
| ShootEmUp | okay, probably has to go to the bathroom | 03:36 |
| holstein | shawn146|ubuntu: any other distros install on that thing? | 03:36 |
| holstein | puppy? | 03:36 |
| holstein | it would have to be small right? | 03:36 |
| holstein | what size is the HD ? | 03:37 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | no | 03:37 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | lol | 03:37 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | theres no harddrive | 03:37 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | it uses flash | 03:37 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | 32 MB's memory | 03:37 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | 15 storage | 03:37 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | and 15 program memory taht can be merged either way | 03:38 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | !!! | 03:39 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | did it again-_-i am about to throw it | 03:39 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | across the room | 03:39 |
| holstein | right | 03:40 |
| holstein | what size hard drive can you use? | 03:40 |
| holstein | flash? | 03:40 |
| holstein | or whatever | 03:40 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | compact flash | 03:40 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | idk if there is a limit | 03:40 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | of what is avaible for CF | 03:40 |
| Red_ | hey. almost done. i think... | 03:41 |
| holstein | maybe you can get a command line buntu system running on it | 03:41 |
| holstein | a server or something | 03:41 |
| ShootEmUp | Rud_ progress bar almost full? | 03:41 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | it runs the Intel Strong Arm sa1011 206MHz processor | 03:41 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_* | 03:41 |
| holstein | some kind of mp3 player with an ncurses mp3 player running in a terminal :) | 03:41 |
| holstein | music server box | 03:42 |
| holstein | something fun | 03:42 |
| Red_ | yah about a 4th left. | 03:42 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | lol | 03:43 |
| holstein | shawn146|ubuntu: you've got a 720? | 03:43 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | yes | 03:44 |
| holstein | hey | 03:44 |
| holstein | pcmcia | 03:44 |
| holstein | USB on that thing? | 03:44 |
| Red_ | i can't beleive that took almost 8 strait hours of working on my pc.please tell me it can auto update? | 03:45 |
| ShootEmUp | You can set it to update in the background | 03:45 |
| ShootEmUp | so yes | 03:45 |
| Red_ | YES! | 03:45 |
| ShootEmUp | It should install updates during install to, just not all of them | 03:46 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | nope | 03:46 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | but there are pcmcia cards that add the support | 03:46 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | along with specialized drivers | 03:46 |
| Red_ | so what language do i need to learn to edit it? i know the apps are C++ but what about the OS? | 03:46 |
| holstein | shawn146|ubuntu: what network? | 03:47 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | network? | 03:47 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | it has a built in modem | 03:47 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_ most ubuntu setting are set via GUI | 03:48 |
| holstein | a little LAN port? | 03:48 |
| holstein | hmmm | 03:48 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | you can run wireless pcmcia cards | 03:48 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | no | 03:48 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | a little modem port for a phone line | 03:48 |
| holstein | i have a couple wired and wifi pcmcia cards | 03:48 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_ but there are command line commands | 03:48 |
| holstein | you got any? | 03:48 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | no | 03:48 |
| Red_ | so its an interface, not a language? | 03:48 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | ive been looking for some | 03:48 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | do you have an aeronet g40? | 03:48 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | or 340 something | 03:48 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_ yes, but you can program things for it via c++ | 03:48 |
| ShootEmUp | but I don't know how | 03:49 |
| thewrath | is there an admin member in here? I think i know what to do but want to verify | 03:49 |
| thewrath | i used to be a member and now it looks like i am not on the list anymore | 03:49 |
| Red_ | cool. so different distros are made by editing settings? | 03:49 |
| thewrath | do i have to send an email to the council to get reinstated | 03:49 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | oiyh it kernal panicked again >.< | 03:50 |
| ShootEmUp | there is ubuntu based, debian based, Gentoo, Fedora, Arch, etc... | 03:50 |
| IAmNotThatGuy | thewrath, yup talk to #ubuntu-beginners-council | 03:50 |
| IAmNotThatGuy | and send a mail too | 03:50 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | holstein you awake? | 03:50 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_ its endless | 03:50 |
| Red_ | yah but are thsoe just different presets of linux settings? | 03:51 |
| Red_ | or did they take the source code and edit that? | 03:51 |
| ShootEmUp | they are differnt spins on the Linux kernel | 03:51 |
| Red_ | oh ok. | 03:51 |
| holstein | shawn146|ubuntu: o/ | 03:51 |
| holstein | id have to look | 03:51 |
| Red_ | Installing system! | 03:51 |
| holstein | i dont think so... | 03:52 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_ but all are differnt in the command department | 03:52 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | oh | 03:52 |
| Red_ | brb got to empty the dish washer. | 03:53 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | k | 03:54 |
| Red_ | DONE INSTSLLING! YAAAAAY! thank you guys so much! brb got to restart now. | 03:58 |
| ShootEmUp | yup, see ya then | 03:58 |
| thewrath | umm what is landscape is it free when i install ubuntu or no? | 03:58 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | kernal panic kernal panic kernal panic!!!! | 03:59 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | gahh i can't take it anymore | 03:59 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | (kernal panic - not syncing: vfs: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,255) | 03:59 |
| holstein | shawn146|ubuntu: what has changed? | 04:00 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | nothing!!! | 04:01 |
| holstein | the kernel that is coming with the download should work right? | 04:01 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | i found videos on it | 04:01 |
| holstein | did you try all the verions there? | 04:01 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | whats the apt-get package for adobe flash player? | 04:01 |
| holstein | hmm | 04:01 |
| holstein | i usually get the big meta package | 04:01 |
| ShootEmUp | sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree | 04:01 |
| holstein | ShootEmUp: :) | 04:02 |
| black | Ok I need someone to explain grub to me. | 04:02 |
| ShootEmUp | grub2 boots differnt OS, thats all i got | 04:03 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | ShootEmUp not helpfull | 04:03 |
| nit-wit | black, is it the multiple lines tha tis confusing | 04:03 |
| ShootEmUp | just select Ubuntu to boot into ubuntu, or windows loader to go to windows 7 | 04:03 |
| ShootEmUp | up down keys, and enter | 04:04 |
| black | I'm red btw. | 04:04 |
| ShootEmUp | I know | 04:04 |
| black | Talking to nit-wit | 04:04 |
| holstein | hmmm | 04:04 |
| holstein | flashplugin-nonfree - Adobe Flash Player plugin installer (transitional package) | 04:04 |
| holstein | i see it running sudo apt-cache search flash | 04:05 |
| nit-wit | black, what is it about grub that you want to know | 04:05 |
| Red_ | Ubuntu....It's....It's....It's Alive!!!!!!!!! | 04:07 |
| ShootEmUp | YAY! | 04:07 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | nope | 04:07 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | :P | 04:07 |
| Red_ | thanks guys. so what do you recomend to DL first? | 04:07 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | why is it installing so slowly | 04:07 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | in ubuntu software center | 04:07 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_ I like VLC for media files | 04:08 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | mozzilla plugin | 04:08 |
| Red_ | yes. | 04:08 |
| ShootEmUp | Chromium Web browser | 04:08 |
| ShootEmUp | if you don;t like FF | 04:08 |
| Red_ | sorry. I love FF. | 04:08 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | i like ff | 04:08 |
| ShootEmUp | never cared for FF | 04:09 |
| bgs100 | vim-full | 04:09 |
| bgs100 | :p | 04:09 |
| ShootEmUp | liked opera, but Chrome is better | 04:09 |
| ShootEmUp | Compiz Config Manager | 04:09 |
| ShootEmUp | let you do the Compiz effects | 04:10 |
| Red_ | well, i got to go get ready for bed. (parents). might see you before i shut it down for the night. | 04:10 |
| ShootEmUp | okay, well I gotta go to bed to, night everyone! | 04:10 |
| thewrath | night | 04:10 |
| thewrath | hey ShootEmUp and Red_ | 04:10 |
| Red_ | night. | 04:10 |
| Red_ | yup? | 04:11 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | ? | 04:11 |
| ShootEmUp | yes? | 04:11 |
| thewrath | just saying hey | 04:11 |
| ShootEmUp | hey | 04:11 |
| ShootEmUp | now goodnight | 04:11 |
| Red_ | kk. be back later. maybe. | 04:11 |
| shawn146|ubuntu | your all going? | 04:11 |
| shawn146 | back | 04:28 |
| shawn146 | not on my ubuntu system | 04:28 |
| shawn146 | hmm | 04:29 |
| shawn146 | taht jlime is too frustrating | 04:29 |
| shawn146 | i need someone fromt aht channelt o actually talk and not idle | 04:29 |
| Red_ | everyone left? | 04:31 |
| nit-wit | Red_, your all set up eh | 04:31 |
| === IAmNotThatGuy is now known as M0hi | ||
| Red_ | yah i still am. but not for long. | 04:42 |
| Red_ | jsu wondering , how old are you? | 04:43 |
| holstein | shawn146: you might have to hang out there for a couple days | 04:43 |
| nit-wit | Red_, me | 04:43 |
| Red_ | yah. | 04:43 |
| nit-wit | Red 48 years old and a college student again lol | 04:44 |
| Red_ | ah. im 15 and im a freshman in high school. | 04:45 |
| nit-wit | Red_, cool well I only started with computing about 3 years ago so you are on a good start | 04:45 |
| Red_ | thx. im ina web design class in the mornings to. | 04:46 |
| Red_ | so what do you spend most of ur time on linux doing? | 04:46 |
| nit-wit | Red_, I do support at the Ubuntu forums like most of the members we all break something sooner or later that somebody else knows how to fix. | 04:47 |
| Red_ | lol. what do you do to break it? it seems pretty stable. | 04:48 |
| Red_ | it has built in proxy!? | 04:50 |
| nit-wit | Red_, you have a lot of control with open source at first be careful, it is pretty stable though. people get in trouble trying to lean programs out at times | 04:54 |
| Red_ | ok. so any appps you recomend i start out with? | 04:55 |
| nit-wit | Red_, you want the ubuntu-restricted -extras in synaptic which is the installer in the admin where gparted was | 04:59 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| akshatj | M0hi, o/ | 14:06 |
| M0hi | hey akshatj. join #ubuntu-beginners-team | 14:07 |
| Timo_ | Well M0hi the mplayer still gives me that there is no connection with a socket and th efile/folder is not found | 14:25 |
| M0hi | Timo_, try re-installing mplayer or watch whether a normal system update detects those packages as you removed audacity | 14:26 |
| Timo_ | That didn't work. | 14:28 |
| M0hi | re-installing mplayer too? | 14:30 |
| M0hi | Timo_, ? | 14:30 |
| Timo_ | well I'll install it from the synaptic now | 14:30 |
| Timo_ | who knows that makes any differencve | 14:30 |
| Timo_ | mm I found the probl I guess | 14:31 |
| M0hi | Timo_, also checked an update by clicking "check" ? | 14:31 |
| M0hi | Timo_, you found it? | 14:31 |
| Timo_ | gnome-mplayer wasn't installed | 14:31 |
| Timo_ | it was just mplayer being installed | 14:31 |
| RedRaven | hey. | 14:31 |
| M0hi | hey RedRaven | 14:32 |
| M0hi | Timo_, see -team | 14:32 |
| Timo_ | duanedesign: I've done the nolirc, but it still gives me the stuffa bout lirc and the no file/folder fuond :( | 14:34 |
| Timo_ | but I thnik I found another problem :p | 14:34 |
| M0hi | Timo_, try it | 14:34 |
| Timo_ | look: http://pastebin.com/V7UWJMev | 14:34 |
| Timo_ | rtmp gives an error, that's why the .flv is not created, and that's why MPLAYER can't find the file | 14:35 |
| Timo_ | : | 14:35 |
| Timo_ | :) | 14:35 |
| M0hi | I have no clue about that error :[ | 14:36 |
| Timo_ | mm no that's not it :( | 14:36 |
| duanedesign | Timo_: are you using the GUI for mplayer? | 14:39 |
| duanedesign | Timo_: i was going to see if you could try the commnd: mplayer -vo x11 yourmoviefile | 14:40 |
| Timo_ | I'm the myspace downloader script, which is using rtmp and mplayer... | 14:42 |
| Timo_ | brb | 14:43 |
| duanedesign | you can also uncomment the line in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf | 14:43 |
| Timo_ | hi M0hi back! & duanedesign | 14:49 |
| duanedesign | hello Timo_ | 14:49 |
| RedRaven | Hey sorry. had to get some breakfeast. | 14:49 |
| RedRaven | wont be on long. | 14:50 |
| duanedesign | Timo_: i was saying inside gksu gedit /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf | 14:50 |
| duanedesign | Timo_: uncomment the line : # vo=xv,x11 | 14:50 |
| Timo_ | well duanedesign my config file is completely empty... | 14:51 |
| duanedesign | hmm :( | 14:51 |
| M0hi | duanedesign, re-installing it ? | 14:51 |
| duanedesign | Timo_: maybe in $HOME/.mplayer/ | 14:51 |
| Timo_ | yes duanedesign, [gnome-mplayer] | 14:52 |
| Timo_ | that and: msglevel=all=5 | 14:52 |
| Timo_ | is in the config file | 14:52 |
| Timo_ | not more.. | 14:52 |
| Timo_ | well and I added the things like nolirc=yes | 14:52 |
| Timo_ | is that wrong? Should I have more info in that config file? | 14:55 |
| Timo_ | Hey lads, I've installed the netbook-launcer, when a window is active, is there a way to configure it that way that if I click the icon in the doc, it will minimize? | 16:10 |
| ibuclaw | Timo_, the dock on the left hand side? | 16:15 |
| ibuclaw | it's not very configurable am afraid. :s | 16:15 |
| ibuclaw | other than adding/removing launchers, and reorganising them | 16:16 |
| Timo_ | ibuclaw: yes that one. mm that's pitty | 16:18 |
| Timo_ | plus I lost my 'Force Quit' button :( | 16:18 |
| Timo_ | the upper panel is now also locked.. | 16:18 |
| ibuclaw | Force quit? | 16:19 |
| ibuclaw | as in... xkill ? | 16:19 |
| Timo_ | ye | 16:19 |
| Timo_ | it's helpful sometime | 16:19 |
| Timo_ | bah that launcher is so pretty, but works like nothing :P | 16:21 |
| Timo_ | Alt+F2 is disabled | 16:21 |
| Timo_ | searchig for apps doesn't work | 16:21 |
| aveilleux | Timo_: Such is the massive pitfall of the netbook interface: No customization options whatsoever | 16:22 |
| Timo_ | aveilleux: do you know what the program is named, which is 'Run' (ALT+F2) | 16:23 |
| aveilleux | Timo_: Unfortunately not, I haven't had it installed in a long time | 16:23 |
| Timo_ | okeis | 16:25 |
| Timo_ | mm I guess mutter doesn't have that kind of stuff | 16:26 |
| Timo_ | grr | 16:26 |
| stlsaint | thewrath: mike? | 17:20 |
| thewrath | yeap | 17:21 |
| thewrath | you will probably get another friend request | 17:21 |
| stlsaint | thewrath: why? from who? | 17:21 |
| thewrath | that account is going bye bye probably in the next 2 weeks once i get all of my friends moved over... that account has issues with viewing the profile and facebook is not getting off of their *** and helping me | 17:21 |
| thewrath | it will be from me on my new account | 17:21 |
| stlsaint | thewrath: yea i had a issue the first time i hit the link | 17:22 |
| thewrath | yea my new account does not have that issue | 17:22 |
| thewrath | had that issue once i got the new profile and joined the new messaging system | 17:22 |
| stlsaint | lol, i refuse to get that new account crap | 17:23 |
| thewrath | i see | 17:23 |
| thewrath | it looked you had it | 17:23 |
| thewrath | at least the new profile maybe not the new messaging system | 17:23 |
| stlsaint | yea i refused to manually upgrade but one day i logged in and everything looked different | 17:24 |
| stlsaint | a reason im considering leaving facebook | 17:24 |
| aveilleux | I don't understand that mentality. | 17:25 |
| aveilleux | Facebook is a constant work in progress: much like many online games. It'll never be "complete" or "perfect". | 17:25 |
| thewrath | yea it is | 17:26 |
| thewrath | next thing they changed I will create my own "Facebook" with buddy press | 17:26 |
| aveilleux | If the developers find something that they like better, it's much easier to implement that solution than have to support many different configurations (this is like the classic console-vs-PC decision) | 17:26 |
| thewrath | yea it is starting to annoy me | 17:26 |
| aveilleux | Facebook, if anything, has *added* features over the past year and made them much easier to access. Is it different? Definitely. Is it wrong?.. well, no. | 17:27 |
| aveilleux | Look at the paradox of a Windows user transferring over to OSX or GNU/Linux. | 17:27 |
| aveilleux | It's a very different process to do many of the things in the OSs, but none of them are inherently "the best" way to do anything. | 17:28 |
| stlsaint | aveilleux: it comes down to a personal decision | 17:28 |
| stlsaint | aveilleux: when i came to ubuntu i liked it and wanted to use gnome | 17:28 |
| aveilleux | The developers had a problem (or an "itch", if you follow Stallman's works), and the solved it ("scratched the itch") in their own way,. | 17:28 |
| aveilleux | s/works/words | 17:28 |
| aveilleux | Stallman's latest works are less than notable. | 17:29 |
| aveilleux | Anyway. | 17:29 |
| stlsaint | aveilleux: just because they decide to use unity doesnt make it right nor user friendly or *better*, it disappoints me because i want to use gnome and they make you use unity | 17:29 |
| aveilleux | stlsaint: The only problem with that analogy is that the Unity team really believes it to be a better solution than Gnome Shell, not just a different way of approaching the problem. | 17:29 |
| stlsaint | and facebook thought that changing their layout would ame things better | 17:30 |
| stlsaint | s/amd/make | 17:30 |
| aveilleux | What issues do you have with the new design? Have you examined why they bother you? | 17:30 |
| thewrath | aveilleux, no one can view my profile | 17:31 |
| thewrath | my account exists but people get a 404 error when trying to find me | 17:31 |
| aveilleux | thewrath: Have you checked your security settings? Re-set your custom URL? Contacted Facebook support? | 17:31 |
| thewrath | second yes the first no | 17:31 |
| thewrath | where do I change my custom URL | 17:31 |
| stlsaint | aveilleux: i dont like the button changes, nor do i like the new way they post everything that you post on other peoples pages | 17:32 |
| aveilleux | thewrath: http://apps.facebook.com/personalurl/ | 17:32 |
| stlsaint | aveilleux: granted i have nothing personal that i post on facebook but its no one else's business of what i post on another persons page | 17:32 |
| aveilleux | stlsaint: I disagree with that system as well. I've never liked the fact that it posts your commenting activity as an update; I delete all of those stupid messages. | 17:33 |
| thewrath | aveilleux, watch this not work | 17:33 |
| aveilleux | stlsaint: What button changes? | 17:33 |
| thewrath | aveilleux, give it a while and it will give me the page | 17:34 |
| stlsaint | aveilleux: how they made the status button so you have to hit it before you can post anything | 17:34 |
| stlsaint | and they moved the message button from the left of the page to the right in the "Send message" button | 17:34 |
| stlsaint | and i dont think i have the "new profile" since everytime i hit the home button i get a showing of "Get the new profile" message | 17:35 |
| aveilleux | stlsaint: That's really a decision made to make it easier to post URLs in status updates without posting links, etc. It made my browser lag to hell when I posted a URL that I didn't want to be a Link | 17:35 |
| aveilleux | stlsaint: Then... get it? | 17:35 |
| aveilleux | stlsaint: It's actually pretty nifty | 17:35 |
| stlsaint | meh | 17:37 |
| stlsaint | bah, all this facebook talk | 17:37 |
| stlsaint | i have facebook for its network abilities to contacts and family/friends, it is not a lifestyle for me as it is for others | 17:38 |
| aveilleux | Neither is it for me. | 17:39 |
| * stlsaint is going to go kill zombies | 17:43 | |
| seidos | hi all. question: how does one take a screenshot in tuxtype? i tried prtsc and it didn't work | 18:07 |
| aveilleux | seidos: You are referring to, when TuxType is in full screen mode? | 18:12 |
| seidos | aveilleux, yeah, i didn't realize there was a non full-screen mode. when i start it up, it's full screen | 18:13 |
| seidos | alt-enter? | 18:13 |
| seidos | no, that doesn't change it to screened mode. i don't see an option for viewing in a window | 18:14 |
| aveilleux | seidos: Linux doesn't handle video modechanges very well; I don't know the hotkey for changing that. You may need to edit the configuration file manually (in your home dir somewhere, I don't know the name of the specific directory) | 18:14 |
| aveilleux | seidos: Open your home directory and hit Ctrl+H. Look for something like ".tuxtyping" | 18:14 |
| seidos | aveilleux, so, solution is to run it in none full screen mode and get a screen shot that way? | 18:15 |
| aveilleux | seidos: It's the easiest solution, certainly. I believe the Ctrl+PrintSrc might be an automatic capture to your Desktop though. | 18:16 |
| aveilleux | I can't test it since I'm using a Mac wireless keyboard, and they don't have a PrintScr key. | 18:17 |
| seidos | aveilleux, i'll try both | 18:17 |
| seidos | yeah ctrl-prtsc didn't work, but windowed mode worked | 18:18 |
| seidos | it's just weird that the app kind of takes over gnome/xorg | 18:19 |
| seidos | i wonder if alt-f4 will close it | 18:19 |
| seidos | nope | 18:19 |
| seidos | it must not be a gtk app, okay, thanks for the help aveilleux | 18:19 |
| Red__ | hey. | 18:38 |
| akshatj | hi | 18:38 |
| akshatj | Red__, do you need any help? | 18:39 |
| Red__ | im having trouble connecting Ubuntu to a 2Wired network. | 18:39 |
| Red__ | im putting in the code and it accepts it, but then the little signal bar symbol at the top spins for a while and it eventuallly saidd you are offline. the singal is strong though. im using it now in win7. | 18:40 |
| akshatj | Red__, wired or wireless? | 18:41 |
| * akshatj confused | 18:41 | |
| Red__ | wireless. | 18:42 |
| akshatj | Red__, try using Wicd | 18:42 |
| Red__ | wicd? | 18:42 |
| akshatj | Red__, you can find it in the software centre | 18:43 |
| Red__ | what is it? | 18:43 |
| akshatj | Red__, it is a replacement for the network manager | 18:43 |
| Red__ | ok thx. will it still work with my old networks? | 18:44 |
| akshatj | Red__, it works for Wired and Wireless networks only | 18:44 |
| Red__ | ok. why does the wireless manager need to be replaced? (sorry for all the questions. i just like to know what im doing before i do it) | 18:46 |
| Red__ | akshatj | 18:48 |
| akshatj | Red__, I have heard Wicd works better for Wireless connections | 18:51 |
| Red__ | ok thx. | 18:52 |
| * akshatj uses pppoeconf himself | 18:52 | |
| Red__ | akshatj whats the difference? | 18:54 |
| akshatj | Red__, between what? | 18:54 |
| Red__ | pppoeconf and wicd | 18:55 |
| akshatj | Red__, pppoeconf is for DSL connections | 18:55 |
| Red__ | oh wait. i can't connect to the network so i can't download wicd/ | 18:56 |
| Red__ | .* | 18:56 |
| Red__ | akshatj 9sorry for all the separate pings. not used to using them( | 18:57 |
| Red__ | ()* | 18:57 |
| akshatj | Red__, are you using 10.10? | 19:00 |
| Red__ | yes. | 19:00 |
| Red__ | akshatj | 19:00 |
| akshatj | Red__, http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/all/wicd-gtk/download and http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/wicd-daemon | 19:01 |
| akshatj | whoops | 19:02 |
| akshatj | http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/all/wicd-daemon/download and http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/all/wicd-gtk/download | 19:02 |
| Red__ | ....what is that? | 19:03 |
| akshatj | Red__, download the two packages and install them | 19:03 |
| Red__ | i can't do that from ubuntu though. | 19:04 |
| Red__ | akshatj, how am i supposed to do that through windows? | 19:05 |
| akshatj | Red__,just choose any mirror to download :/ | 19:06 |
| Red__ | and the mirror will let me send stuff to the Ubuntu partition? | 19:08 |
| Red__ | akshatj | 19:08 |
| akshatj | Red__, you can save the .deb files somewhere in Windows and then browse to them through Ubuntu | 19:09 |
| Red__ | kk gtg. | 19:11 |
| === steemed is now known as st33med | ||
| Red__ | hey. | 19:48 |
| akshatj | Red__, did it work? | 19:49 |
| Red__ | im on a different network. | 19:49 |
| akshatj | on Ubuntu? | 19:50 |
| Red__ | yah. im in a diffrent place. | 19:50 |
| akshatj | Red__, what are you waiting for then? | 19:50 |
| Red__ | ok ill get it then. | 19:50 |
| akshatj | fire up software centre and install wicd | 19:51 |
| Red__ | k its installing. | 19:53 |
| Red__ | what the net-dev group it wants me to join? | 19:53 |
| Red__ | NVM | 19:53 |
| Red__ | so ive just been asking a bunch of people the, but what do you spend most of youre time doing in Linux akshatj? | 19:55 |
| akshatj | random stuff | 19:55 |
| Red__ | ok. but like what in linux that you can't do in windows/ | 19:56 |
| Red__ | ?* | 19:56 |
| akshatj | you can't take a look at what's inside and makes things work | 19:57 |
| Red__ | oh ok. | 19:58 |
| Red__ | hey i gtg again sorry. | 20:01 |
| nit-wit | hajour, how are you | 20:49 |
| nit-wit | holstein, and your little dog to, "the wicked witch of the west" | 20:49 |
| Roydaman2 | is there a way to upgrade or update Gparted to format to HFS+?? | 20:56 |
| _schism_ | good afternoon all | 21:01 |
| ShootEmUp | Red_, you here? | 21:03 |
| _schism_ | can someone recomend a simple email server for ubuntu? Just looking for somethng simple I can put squirrelmail on top of for the kids to play with here at the house and I cant figgure out which one is better for me to do so on google | 21:03 |
| kristian-aalborg | Roydaman2: have a look at the project homepage, they might have a download that is newer than the one in repos | 21:09 |
| kristian-aalborg | but check if it does what you want first, of course | 21:09 |
| Roydaman2 | kristian i found this http://partedmagic.com/doku.php | 21:12 |
| Roydaman2 | kristian which has an updated Gparted but when i try to sudo apt-get update it tells me there are no updates | 21:14 |
| kristian-aalborg | you need to add it to your sources.list, I think | 21:22 |
| kristian-aalborg | http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=downloads | 21:22 |
| kristian-aalborg | ah, it's an iso | 21:23 |
| kristian-aalborg | so you dl and burn it to a cd | 21:23 |
| kristian-aalborg | please note that I have zero experience with this program | 21:23 |
| Roydaman2 | yea sry i didnt read the whole thing then i did and went looking for a blank cd | 21:23 |
| Roydaman2 | i have some with gparted on linux machines all i need is a 50 gig partyition to install MAC OS X onto | 21:24 |
| Roydaman2 | i been workin on this for 2 1/2 days now haha | 21:24 |
| kristian-aalborg | it can get hairy :) | 21:27 |
| kristian-aalborg | remember backup | 21:27 |
| Roydaman2 | always well actually its a blank drive already i formatted it before i took it out of my other PC | 21:29 |
| Elise001 | Hi, wifi not detected when I run Ubuntu Netbook on Compaq portable. Wifi detected and usuable when I run Windows Vista on same machine. How can I fix this? | 21:35 |
| ikt | hi Elise001, unlucky with your wifi woes :( | 21:40 |
| ikt | I'm trying to fine the page that might be able to help | 21:40 |
| ikt | https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/internet/C/troubleshooting-wireless.html | 21:41 |
| Elise001 | modprobe: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/..... It goes on. Trying to take screen shot with cel phone camera. | 21:42 |
| ikt | o_O? Are you trying to install a wireless driver? | 21:45 |
| Elise001 | It says /lib/modules/2.6.35-22-generic/modules.dep No such file or directory. Twice. | 21:47 |
| Elise001 | I have not tried to install a wireless driver yet. I might need help with that, please. | 21:48 |
| ikt | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/642421 | 21:48 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 642421 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Maverick could not load /lib/modules/2.6.35-22-generic/modules.dep (affects: 230) (dups: 3) (heat: 1116)" [Medium,Confirmed] | 21:48 |
| ikt | that is a massive bug | 21:49 |
| Elise001 | Thank you. I will look at that webpage on my Samsung netbook running Windows Vista. | 21:49 |
| Elise001 | I will stay connected to #ubuntu-beginners. | 21:49 |
| ikt | what type of compaq laptop do you have? | 21:50 |
| Elise001 | Looking. I got it for cheap recently. | 21:50 |
| ikt | tbh I thought compaq went out of business years ago | 21:51 |
| ikt | compaq seems to be hp now | 21:51 |
| Elise001 | On the bottem it says Model P/N: AT8-C2(C Test) 1AT8B5UTP20 | 21:52 |
| Elise001 | It also says CPU: AMD Turion TM 64 Mobile TL-50 (1.6 GHz, 512KB L2 | 21:53 |
| Elise001 | I paid $150 and the $ went to a school. Good deed. I'd like to run Ubuntu on it. | 21:54 |
| ikt | hrm, can't find that model | 21:54 |
| ikt | if you run in terminal: sudo lshw -C network | 21:55 |
| Elise001 | It says other stuff on label on bottom, like Wireless: 802.11bg (Huskers), it that is any help. | 21:55 |
| Elise001 | By terminal, do you mean command line? I can sign in. | 21:56 |
| ikt | yep | 21:56 |
| Elise001 | And it came " as is" with no documentation or CD's. | 21:56 |
| ikt | the huskers doesn't mean anything :( | 21:57 |
| ikt | 802.11bg is the type of wireless it can connect to | 21:57 |
| ikt | 802.11bg is fairly normal | 21:57 |
| Elise001 | I will sign in. I mean log in. | 21:57 |
| Elise001 | There is a small switch on the front. I havbe it in the position that works for Windows Vista. Blue light instead of orange. | 21:58 |
| Elise001 | How do I get to terminal via drop down menu, please? | 21:59 |
| ikt | Applications > Accessories > | 22:00 |
| Elise001 | I see. Accesseries, then Terminal. | 22:00 |
| ikt | yep :) | 22:00 |
| Elise001 | I typed in "sudo lshw -C network" and then keyed in my password. | 22:02 |
| Elise001 | The system printed a bunch of info, starting with description: Network controller. | 22:03 |
| Elise001 | What do you want to know? | 22:03 |
| ikt | the product | 22:03 |
| aveilleux | Elise001: Pastebin it. | 22:03 |
| ikt | or do that | 22:04 |
| ikt | yeah | 22:04 |
| aveilleux | !pastebin | Elise001 | 22:04 |
| ubot2 | Elise001: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 22:04 |
| ikt | pastebin, I forgot about that | 22:04 |
| Elise001 | *-network; dsecription: Network controller; product: | 22:04 |
| Elise001 | product: BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN; vendor: Brodacom Corp.; physical id:0 | 22:06 |
| Elise001 | Do I type "/pastebin? | 22:07 |
| ikt | http://paste.ubuntu.com | 22:08 |
| Elise001 | Any other info you need? | 22:08 |
| ikt | yeah if you can copy it all | 22:08 |
| ikt | that makes it easier | 22:09 |
| aveilleux | Elise001: Having trouble installing wireless? | 22:09 |
| ikt | yeah pretty much | 22:09 |
| ikt | i'm just trying to get what wireless chipset they have | 22:09 |
| aveilleux | Elise001: If you have a hardwire connection, you can just go to System > Administration > Additional Drivers and install the Broadcom STA driver | 22:09 |
| Elise001 | I went to //paste.ubuntu.com on my working computer. | 22:10 |
| aveilleux | Elise001: Can you get a hardwire connection to the laptop in question? | 22:10 |
| aveilleux | Elise001: As in, ethernet cable | 22:10 |
| aveilleux | ....why does Xchat think that "ethernet" is not a word | 22:10 |
| Elise001 | Yes. | 22:10 |
| ikt | http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10293481 <- aveilleux | 22:10 |
| aveilleux | Elise001: Then do what I mentioned above, and it should work | 22:11 |
| aveilleux | Oh. | 22:11 |
| Elise001 | I use that yellow cable when I visit my friends who do not have wifi. | 22:11 |
| aveilleux | OH. God not one of those stupid switches. | 22:11 |
| Elise001 | Hardware swithches? | 22:12 |
| Elise001 | Getting the cable now. | 22:12 |
| aveilleux | I have no issue with hardware switches: I take issue with toggle switches. | 22:12 |
| aveilleux | As in, not an ON/OFF slider... a spring-loaded switch that you tab to turn something on or off | 22:12 |
| ikt | yeah | 22:13 |
| aveilleux | My laptop as an ON/OFF slider and it's great | 22:13 |
| ikt | ohh | 22:14 |
| ikt | the ones where you slide it to the right and it flicks back/ | 22:14 |
| aveilleux | Yeah | 22:14 |
| aveilleux | I hate those | 22:14 |
| ikt | :< | 22:16 |
| aveilleux | They usually depend on hardware/software interaction, and if the hardware's off when the software thinks it's on, then flicking the switch will just shut the software off and turn the hardware on. | 22:16 |
| aveilleux | It's more common than you might think. | 22:17 |
| Elise001 | Using Ethernet cable, Firefox works. I am able to read my GmAIL. Thank you for a partial solution. | 22:18 |
| ikt | yeah my acer had it, was a nightmare, only netbook I've had where I had to manually right click on the wireless icon > turn wireless on, every single time I logged in | 22:19 |
| ikt | Elise001, if you go System > Admin > Hardware drivers | 22:19 |
| ikt | is there anything listed? | 22:19 |
| ikt | addtional drivers* | 22:20 |
| Elise001 | It would still be nice to use wireless with the Compaq when running Ubuntu. I really like Ubuntu. I'll tell you why briefly later, if you like. | 22:20 |
| aveilleux | Elise001: You can install the wireless drivers using the Additional Drivers utility, then you won't need a cable. | 22:20 |
| Elise001 | Moved the Samsung next to Compaq. I'll look. | 22:21 |
| Elise001 | Going to system->admin->additional drivers | 22:22 |
| ikt | yep | 22:23 |
| Elise001 | The system is downloading and updating packages indexes, it says that. | 22:23 |
| aveilleux | That's good. | 22:23 |
| Elise001 | It says that No proprietary drivers are in use on this system. | 22:24 |
| aveilleux | Ack, that's not good. | 22:24 |
| Elise001 | I think it finished. | 22:24 |
| Elise001 | I'll close the white window that said that. | 22:24 |
| Elise001 | Actually, I clicked on Help in the window. Let's see what that does. | 22:25 |
| aveilleux | Elise001: Oh, I think you need to activate the Universe repositories. | 22:25 |
| aveilleux | Elise001: Go to System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager | 22:26 |
| aveilleux | Elise001: Then go to Settings > Repositories | 22:26 |
| Elise001 | A window popped up saying it wants to install updates. I'll let it. | 22:26 |
| aveilleux | Elise001: May as well, but do this afterward (ignore a reboot if it needs one) | 22:27 |
| aveilleux | Elise001: Check all the boxes on the first tab except "Source code", and hit Close. Hit Reload. | 22:27 |
| aveilleux | Elise001: Then you should have the Universe repositories available. | 22:27 |
| Elise001 | I did that. Thanks. | 22:30 |
| Elise001 | It still says No package is selected in the Synaptic Package Manager box. Should I restart? | 22:31 |
| aveilleux | Elise001: The updates ran? Then yes | 22:31 |
| Elise001 | Unplugging Ethernet cable too so can test wifi connection. | 22:33 |
| Elise001 | Starting. | 22:33 |
| Elise001 | Selecting Ubuntu | 22:34 |
| aveilleux | Elise001: Er, if you didn't install the driver then it won't work. The driver won't be included as a part of the normal updates. | 22:34 |
| Elise001 | Still get that Could Not Load msg twice. | 22:34 |
| Elise001 | Typing in my password. Ubuntu music played. | 22:35 |
| Elise001 | Now will try to run Firefox. | 22:35 |
| Elise001 | Server not found. Drats. No wireless detected. | 22:36 |
| Elise001 | Auto etho connection established when I plug back in Ethernet cable. | 22:37 |
| Elise001 | Starting update mgr. | 22:38 |
| === Axlin_ is now known as Axlin | ||
| Elise001 | Applying changes. | 22:39 |
| Elise001 | This could take a few minutes. Thanks for your patience. | 22:40 |
| Elise001 | By the way, I'd like to learn enough about Ubuntu so I could help others like you are doing. | 22:42 |
| Elise001 | I do have a technical background and I am a ham, KI6PUO. | 22:42 |
| Elise001 | And I am studying Perl with the new Civil Hackers School of SF now. | 22:43 |
| Elise001 | I used to program for a living. I stopped but I am getting back into it. | 22:44 |
| Elise001 | Downloaded 164MB of 217MB at 218 kB/s | 22:48 |
| Elise001 | 200MB | 22:50 |
| Elise001 | The screen just went crazy. | 22:54 |
| Elise001 | Had to remove battery and put back in. Restarting Ubuntu. | 22:56 |
| Elise001 | Ubuntu music played. | 22:57 |
| Elise001 | This time it wants to do partial upgrade. I'm doing that. | 22:58 |
| Elise001 | Not all msgs look good. | 22:59 |
| Elise001 | 4 new packages are going to be installed. 180 packages are going to be upgraded. Could take several hours. | 23:01 |
| aveilleux | Elise001: That's the only problem with a new Ubuntu system -- lots of updates. | 23:01 |
| Elise001 | I remember from my Toshiba that died. | 23:02 |
| Elise001 | Now it says 3 minutes remaining. I hope so. | 23:02 |
| Elise001 | Setting up software-center (3.0.7) | 23:08 |
| Elise001 | Restarting system as recomended. | 23:10 |
| Elise001 | Still get those Could not load msgs. | 23:11 |
| Elise001 | Got the music. | 23:11 |
| Elise001 | Update mgr says no updates to install. | 23:12 |
| Elise001 | Still no wifi. Any suggestions towards getting wifi to work, please? | 23:22 |
| Elise001 | Interesting. Wifi working. But wifi on top says not. | 23:23 |
| Elise001 | Firefox lets me read my Gmail after I unplugged Ethernet cable. | 23:23 |
| aveilleux | Elise001: Does it say "Not managed"? | 23:23 |
| Elise001 | Firefox stopped working again. | 23:24 |
| aveilleux | Elise001: That's a really common bug. Open up Terminal (Applications > Accessories > Terminal) and type: gksudo gedit /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf #(caps is important) | 23:24 |
| Elise001 | No caps? | 23:25 |
| aveilleux | Elise001: Once the text editor opens up, change the line down at the bottom that says "managed=false" to "managed=true" (without the quotes) | 23:25 |
| aveilleux | Elise001: No, you must include the caps I typed. | 23:25 |
| aveilleux | Elise001: Linux is case-sensitive. | 23:25 |
| Elise001 | Did that. Thanks. | 23:29 |
| Elise001 | Restarting Firefox. | 23:30 |
| aveilleux | Elise001: Then in order for network-manager to handle your wireless, you'll need to log out and log back in. I don't know if that's still the case, though... it's been a while | 23:30 |
| Elise001 | No wifi. So restarting computer. | 23:31 |
| Elise001 | Same Fatal Could Not Load msgs. But they do not appear to be fatal after all. | 23:32 |
| Elise001 | I got a msg about battery could be old or broken. 1.1%. | 23:33 |
| Elise001 | Starting Firefox. | 23:34 |
| stlsaint | Elise001: yea mine is at 19.7% :D | 23:34 |
| Elise001 | Unchecking Work offline. | 23:34 |
| Elise001 | Can't find www.google.com. | 23:35 |
| aveilleux | Elise001: Are you connected in the corner of the screen? Ubuntu won't automatically connect you to the nearest wifi. | 23:35 |
| Elise001 | Oh well. | 23:35 |
| Elise001 | Up the top when I put curser over wifi symbol, it says No Network Connection. | 23:36 |
| aveilleux | Elise001: Then... click on it and select a network. | 23:36 |
| stlsaint | aveilleux: if you have connected to the wireless network before than yea it will automatically connect on startup | 23:36 |
| aveilleux | stlsaint: But we just got the wireless drivers working. | 23:36 |
| stlsaint | roger dodger | 23:36 |
| Elise001 | When I click on the wifi symbol, it only highlights VPN Connections. | 23:36 |
| aveilleux | wait, Elise001, did you go back and install the broadcom driver in Additional Drivers? | 23:37 |
| Elise001 | I think I did not. Sorry, but how do I do that again? | 23:37 |
| Elise001 | Going to system-> additional drivers now. | 23:38 |
| aveilleux | Elise001: Here's an easier way. Open Terminal again. run "sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source" (without the quotes). that way, even if the app doesn't detect it, the drivers will be installed anyway. | 23:38 |
| Elise001 | It says No proprietary drivers are in use on this system. I will read rest of box. | 23:38 |
| aveilleux | Elise001: Does your laptop have a hardware switch for turning the wireless on and off? | 23:40 |
| Elise001 | Looks like there are 2 Nividea drivers and 2 Broadcom drivers I can install. | 23:40 |
| Elise001 | Yes to switch. And it is turned on. | 23:41 |
| aveilleux | Elise001: Oh, yeah. Go and install the latest nvidia (highest number) and both of the broadcom (I assume STA and firmware kernel) | 23:41 |
| Red__ | hey. | 23:41 |
| Elise001 | Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/..... It goes on. I think I need to reattach Ethernet cable. Will do so. | 23:42 |
| aveilleux | Elise001: Oh, yeah, you'll need that. | 23:42 |
| Red__ | is there a way to transfer book marks from EI in windows to FF in Linux? | 23:43 |
| Elise001 | White box frozen. Have to restart. | 23:43 |
| aveilleux | Red__: Not effectively. You can transfer them from IE to FF in Windows, then copy the profile from Windows to Linuz | 23:44 |
| aveilleux | Linux* | 23:44 |
| aveilleux | s/effectively/directly | 23:44 |
| Red__ | thanks. hey nit-wit. | 23:45 |
| nit-wit | Red__, hey I saw you on earlier you get everything going | 23:47 |
| Red__ | oh yah. I love it. can't wait to really get in. got compiz installed. amazing | 23:48 |
| Red__ | what im looking for now is a good article on basic line comands for the terminal. | 23:49 |
| nit-wit | Red__, here is a good starter download of a pdf probably. http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/index_main.html | 23:50 |
| Red__ | yah i have that in my bookmarks. which i mistakenly left in IE on the windows side..... | 23:51 |
| Elise001 | I am doing the sudo. | 23:54 |
| Elise001 | It ran. Will restart. | 23:55 |
| nit-wit | Red__, I haven't read it I learned what I know by trial and error and hanging out at the Ubuntu forums and watching how things go. I have a lot of free time though so t has been a fun learning experience. | 23:57 |
| Red__ | yah. well my winter break is almost over and then hello mid-term exams. anyways, ill probably look up an article in a minute. but once i go into windows and put the EI bookmarks in FF, how do i transfer them to FF in linux? | 23:58 |
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