[00:02] <soreau> I see this but no solution https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/579300 and no real reason to disable this module (?)
[00:06] <soreau> There is no evidence of this 'OSSp' I can find
[00:28] <lamont> meh. how do I get udev to pretend that a particular device just got added and re-run the rules (so I can see if I got this right)?
[00:29] <kklimonda> soreau: have you tried using padsp?
[00:31] <elmo> lamont: udevadm trigger ?
[00:31] <lamont> elmo: yeah... it's the arguments to that where I'm hitting challenges... though if udevadm trigger with no more args triggers all of them, then my rules skilz are sadly lacking
[00:33] <elmo> lamont: IME no arguments does it all
[00:33] <lamont> meh.  I suck
[00:33] <lamont> ta
[00:44] <lamont> meh.  spelling hard.
[01:28] <Keybuk> huh, that was funny
[01:29] <virtuald> lastlog ipv6
[02:15] <soreau> kklimonda: Yes I have, it does not work. I tried running enemy territory and it just says http://pastebin.com/xrA4ivj6 With pasuspender it says it can't find /dev/dsp and with LD_PRELOAD=libpulsedsp.so it just says "Sorry but your soundcard can't do this". I believe this message is coming from the app but it has worked on this machine before without pulseaudio (on previous versions of ubuntu)
[02:17] <kklimonda> soreau: are you, by any chance, running 64bit system?
[02:20] <soreau> kklimonda: no
[02:22] <soreau> The pulseaudio guys said snd-pcm-oss should probably exist (blacklisted) so there is a fallback for pasuspender
[02:22] <kklimonda> soreau: there is also http://nullkey.ath.cx/~stuff/et-sdl-sound/ which do some magic to Q3, and few other games on its engine.
[02:29] <soreau> kklimonda: That gave "------- sound initialization ------- SDL audio driver initializing... SDL_AudioDriverName() = NULL"
[02:29] <soreau> and no audio
[02:30] <kklimonda> soreau: the reason for oss removal has been consolidating audio stack in Ubuntu (or however one could call it), I guess just blacklistingthose modules doesn't change much as they would still have to be maintained.
[02:30] <kklimonda> soreau: have you used the script from this page that sets SDL_AUDIODRIVER?
[02:34] <soreau> kklimonda: Not yet, let me try
[02:41] <soreau> kklimonda: It still says "SDL_AudioDriverName() = NULL" and there is no audio
[02:46] <kklimonda> soreau: you can tweak SDL_AUDIODRIVER, make sure you have right packages installed (libsdl1.2debian-esd or libsdl1.2debian-pulse depending on backend). If it still doesn't work then it's google time
[02:57] <soreau> kklimonda: Ok, it works now that I selected pulse as the driver
[02:57] <soreau> Thanks a lot, I should add this to that report
[04:24] <soreau> kklimonda: The only thing is, there's slight echoing and popping throughout the game
[04:25] <ResQue> what game are we talking about?
[04:27] <soreau> ResQue: enemy territory and probably any other that use /dev/dsp
[04:31] <soreau> The only thing is, there is slight yet consistent cracking and echoing throughout the game
[04:40] <kklimonda> well, the seriousness of this particular problem differs from one title to another.
[04:40] <kklimonda> you can run some old games, without any problems, using padsp
[07:13] <micahg> ricotz: FF4.0b8 is building now
[07:19] <ricotz> micahg, great :), but can you add a natty build to the ppa too?
[07:21] <micahg> ricotz: oh, forgot about that, the problem is the natty build isn't the same as the rest of the builds in the PPA, does that matter? (i.e. it's firefox-4.0 not firefox)
[07:21] <ricotz> micahg, oh, i see, it should be "firefox" of course
[07:23] <micahg> ricotz: I can't do that easily because of how different the branches are, things will break badly
[07:26] <ricotz> micahg, ok, i will wait then
[07:27] <micahg> ricotz: if you want a firefox-4.0 unbranded to play with while waiting, I can do that pretty easily
[07:30] <ricotz> micahg, alright please do
[07:32] <micahg> ricotz: uploaded, should be about 2.5 hrs
[07:57] <ricotz> micahg, thanks, you uploaded it to firefox-next?
[07:58] <micahg> ricotz: unless I messed something up, let me make sure I got a confirmation
[08:00] <micahg> oops, one too many i's in the PPA name :-/, let's try again
[08:04] <micahg> ricotz: now it's building :
[08:05] <ricotz> good :)
[08:52] <tiox> Hey. I just popped in to ask about where the location of things like the gears icon for Run is at. I figured the Ubuntu developers would know best the obscure location of such system icons.
[09:23] <tiox> Does anyone want to help me? I just want to know the location to certain system icons like the gears for run application.
[09:24] <tiox> I use Ubuntu Desktop Edition x64
[09:26] <micahg> tiox: try /usr/share/icons
[09:30] <tiox> Thanks a bunch, I'll poke around through there/
[13:02] <WasserDragoon> hello everyone, i would like to build some packages with a meta package that installs all other packages but when i'm trying to install i get this error message: http://pastebin.com/rfCKcqzd
[13:02] <WasserDragoon> this is my control file: http://pastebin.com/uygF8f44 what's wrong there?
[13:40] <Jacruth> hi guys
[13:41] <Jacruth> so, If I want to install Ubuntu in my mobile, must I use Ubuntu Netbook Edition?
[13:53] <WasserDragoon> no idea?
[14:02] <Jacruth> whatever, ubuntu-mobile is not maintained?
[14:17] <hallyn> Jacruth: what sort of mobile?  a mobile phone?  or a netbook?
[14:18] <Jacruth> uhm... a toshiba portege G810 lol
[14:18] <Jacruth> mobile phone
[14:18] <Jacruth> :3
[14:19] <hallyn> heh, then i've not done that, sorry.  i thought about doing the zubuntu thing on a zaurus, but never did
[14:19] <Jacruth> zaurus?
[14:19] <Jacruth> aha
[14:19] <WasserDragoon> can someone tell me what to modify in my control file to get the packages work?
[14:21] <Jacruth> WasserDragoon, which packages?
[14:21] <Jacruth> hallyn, have you heard something about Kubuntu Mobile?
[14:21] <WasserDragoon> i would like to build some packages with a meta package that installs all other packages but when i'm trying to install i get this error message: http://pastebin.com/rfCKcqzd
[14:22] <WasserDragoon> this is my control file: http://pastebin.com/uygF8f44 what's wrong there?
[14:24] <Jacruth> in deustch :S
[14:24] <WasserDragoon> Jacruth: oh sorry *lol* just a moment, i'll translate it
[14:25] <Jacruth> what does this means?
[14:25] <Jacruth>        apache-zeta-components : Hängt ab von: apache-zeta-components-mvc-template-tiein (= ppa0+svn1053340) soll aber nicht installiert werden
[14:27] <WasserDragoon> Jacruth: just a moment pls, have to find the english version of this text
[14:29] <WasserDragoon> something like depends: apache-zeta-components-mvc-template-tiein (= ...) but will not be installed
[14:30] <WasserDragoon> "depends on '...' but it will not be installed" ;-)#
[14:30] <geser> most likely there is a conflict at some point of the dependency chain
[14:31] <WasserDragoon> geser: but i can't see any conflict, that's why i pasted my control file ;-)
[14:32] <geser> it hasn't to be a conflict that high on the dependency chain
[14:33] <geser> try installing both your meta package and the mentioned package together (with apt-get) to see where the conflict really is
[14:33] <geser> you might need to repeat this with adding additional packages till you get to the real conflict
[14:34] <WasserDragoon> apache-zeta-components-template (= ppa0+svn1053340) isn't installable
[14:35] <WasserDragoon> ok it seems there's no package built with this name :-( maybe some errors with debuild
[14:36] <WasserDragoon> urgs there's no package template, there's a module template which is in the package output lol thanks
[14:58] <hallyn> Jacruth: no, i hadn't.  hm, and runs on n900
[20:59] <ari-tczew> All the best in 2011. See you next year!