[00:10] <jacobw> does anyone know if there is a public noscript force https xml file?
[00:10] <jacobw> with entries for common websites etc
[00:54] <niall> Is it possible to move an existing Ubuntu install from one hard drive to another pair of hard drives and simultaneously upgrade the filesystem to mdadm RAID1?
[00:55] <penguin42> i don't think there is an automagic way of doing it, I can imagine you could get it to do it - the trickiest bit is probably getting the RAID config just right and in the initrd
[00:55] <niall> Appreciably, the /boot partition must be regular ext3/4 on both RAID component drives, and swap should just be regular swapfs, but I assume everything else can be upgraded as such?
[00:56] <penguin42> swap can be a swap partition within the md raid
[00:56] <niall> Can the Ubuntu installer setup a software RAID1?
[00:56] <penguin42> I think so, you may need the alternate CD
[00:57] <niall> Okay. So probably best to just do a fresh install?
[00:57] <penguin42> best unless you're desperate
[00:57] <niall> I currently store all my data on a pair of RAID1 arrays so all I'd be losing is some extra packages and some config but there's nothing extensive.
[00:57]  * niall nods
[00:58] <niall> Great stuff. Upgrading the OS drive from a single 80GB IDE to a pair of 1.5TB SATA has been playing on my mind for a while. :)
[00:58] <penguin42> hehe - give you a bit more breathing room
[01:00] <niall> Yes indeedy. I have 4x1.5TB in RAID1 pairs for data atm but they're almost maxed out. More importantly, relying on an old IDE drive for the OS just seems silly by comparison.
[01:36] <ionwind_> hello
[01:36] <ionwind_> i need someone who understant testdisk
[07:59]  * ball begins the long slow task of downloading Ubuntu Server
[08:00] <MartijnVdS> ball: ah, US still doesn't have >dialup? :P
[08:01] <ball> MartijnVdS: I meet a surprising number of people who are still on dial-up.  That's because I have a rural customer base though.
[08:01] <ball> I'm on DSL, so it's coming down at about 600 kbits/sec
[08:01] <ball> I could probably speed that up a bit too.
[08:03]  * ball turns up the knob
[08:03] <ball> Now up to 713 kbits/sec
[09:00] <danfish> good last morning of 2010!
[09:10] <MartijnVdS> \o
[09:10] <Phineas> i have returned
[09:11] <Phineas> MartijnVdS,  did you get your kindle?
[09:12] <MartijnVdS> you ordered one for me? how nice of you!
[09:12] <Apacheuk> Morning all
[09:12] <Apacheuk> I love my Kindle
[09:13] <Phineas> MartijnVdS,  well... yesterday you were saying 'kindle be here' like you have one waiting for you
[09:13] <MartijnVdS> 12:26 < bigcalm> Kindle be here :D
[09:13]  * MartijnVdS != BigRedS 
[09:13] <MartijnVdS> uhr
[09:13]  * MartijnVdS also != BigRedS 
[09:13] <MartijnVdS> uhr
[09:13] <danfish> popey: very nice blog re offlineimap - just installed it with your instructions and working a treat :)
[09:14]  * MartijnVdS hats tab-completion when the to-be-tab-completed person isn't there :)
[09:14] <popey> excellent danfish !
[09:17] <Phineas> MartijnVdS,  oh, my bad. you may be my random winner i sent a kindle to (random valid address)
[09:18] <Phineas> you just have to wait and see (valid to US residents only0
[09:18] <Phineas> )
[09:27]  * Phineas is working on his own movie (non-cartoon)
[09:28] <Phineas> wnt to know more?
[09:28] <popey> no
[09:29] <screen-x> morning :)
[09:29] <popey> hi screen-x
[09:29] <Phineas> popey,  i though you guys would like to know about my movie (with outakes at the end)
[09:30] <popey> no
[09:30] <popey> take it to #defocus
[09:30] <Phineas> popey,  is that all your gonna say to me
[09:30] <Phineas> popey,  mabe when eir give voie to me i will
[09:32] <popey> right, and until then, that doesn't make this channel the alternative to #defocus for your inane whitterings
[09:33] <Phineas> .... or whatever i like to call them
[09:35] <Phineas> did my quit message work
[09:36] <Phineas> or has it ever worked
[09:39] <Phineas> or am i in the wrong channel again
[09:45] <daubers> Morning
[09:45] <popey> lo
[09:46]  * daubers is pondering a trip to newbury today
[09:47] <daubers> depends if the M&S there has my alarm clock
[09:47] <screen-x> hi daubers :)
[09:47] <screen-x> no suitable webOS alarm clock?
[09:48] <daubers> :p
[09:48] <daubers> Doesn't do DAB
[09:48]  * popey hugs TuneIn Radio on iPad :)
[09:48] <screen-x> I'm sure you could get it to stream something... someone here was developing a javascript alarmclock, bigcalm?
[09:49] <Phineas> popey,  you have an ipad?
[09:49] <popey> yes
[09:49] <daubers> Hmmm..... also I'd feel happier with a normal alarm clock. Need to replace the one that came free with the elf DVD
[09:50] <Phineas> popey,  do they work as a phone?
[09:51] <Phineas> popey,  do ipads work as a phone?
[09:51] <screen-x> Phineas: I'm pretty sure you know the answer to that.
[09:52] <popey> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/27/ipad_comment/ "Apple's iPad - fat iPhone without the phone"
[09:53] <Phineas> popey,  oh i thought they did, but that would be silly
[09:53] <screen-x> depends if you include BT headset + voip in "working as a phone"
[09:54] <Phineas> screen-x,  i mean puting it up to your ear and using it as a phone would be silly and pointless
[09:55] <buzz_> not as pointless as this discussion :)
[09:56] <Phineas> buzz_,  i'm just wondering
[09:56] <popey> :)
[09:57] <Phineas> come to think of it this convo is pointless
[09:57] <popey> a common theme
[09:57] <buzz_> 5 year old+ acer travelmate 8104 needing new lcd (backlight is on way out, and its built into the screen part afaik). new lcd with same res £95.. one with lower res £75... is it worth it..
[09:58] <Phineas> popey,  i have notaced
[09:58] <screen-x> buzz_: what are the two resolutions?
[09:58] <buzz_> 1280x800 and 1600x1050 (which i have currently).
[09:58] <buzz_> but is it even worth replacing. i wonder how much the laptop is even worth
[09:58] <popey> thats quite a difference
[09:58]  * Phineas has 1280x800
[09:59] <buzz_> i recently bought a new hd, and keyboard for the laptop, so perhaps a new screen is worth it just because i already spent money on it
[09:59] <buzz_> then again http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/acer-travelmate-8100-8104wlmi-laptop-2ghz-100gb-15-4-/110612175773
[09:59] <Phineas> but my laptop it called a widescreen but its not so much a widescreen these days
[09:59] <buzz_> sold for £95. argh
[10:00] <buzz_> so my laptop is worth £100 and the fix is £100. damnit.
[10:00] <daubers> Bah not in stock
[10:00] <Phineas> is 15.4" big
[10:00] <buzz_> yeh
[10:00] <screen-x> buzz_: so the question is.. can you get a slightly better specec laptop for the price of a screen replacement?
[10:01] <screen-x> *specced
[10:01] <buzz_> screen-x, nope.
[10:01] <buzz_> screen-x, good point
[10:01] <daubers> buzz_: Can't you jus get one of those laptops with a working screen and something else broken on ebay?
[10:01] <buzz_> daubers, that would be the best bet i guess, and hope that noone else used the machine as much as i did, so it has some life left.
[10:01] <Phineas> daubers,  ebay has good brgens
[10:02] <buzz_> i think im going to get a desktop machine and a decent monitor. been using laptop for years, but i hardly need one now.
[10:03] <screen-x> buzz_: I decided to go with a desktop. Though I now want to fix an old laptop for the occasions when I need a luggable.
[10:04] <buzz_> screen-x, happy with moving to desktop? least you dont have the problems i have now. or they are simpler to solve.. i think ill do the same, fix this up, and use it occassionally
[10:04] <screen-x> buzz_: yeah happy with the desktop, moar pixels :D
[10:04] <buzz_> :)
[10:04] <MartijnVdS> so it's easier to see things are shopped
[10:05] <screen-x> MartijnVdS: I'm not so good at that (unless its really obvious..) link?
[10:06] <buzz_> what do you have ? i was thinking some mb, i5, nvidia 450 gts or something around £100
[10:08]  * MartijnVdS has an i3, and it
[10:08] <MartijnVdS> 's SLOW
[10:08] <MartijnVdS> but that might just be the driver
[10:08] <buzz_> im on pentium m 2ghz now, so most things would be an upgrade for me :)
[10:10] <screen-x> buzz_: I have quite an old desktop,  celeron 2.66, 2gb ram, 2x750gb disk, 1920x1200  monitor.
[10:11] <MartijnVdS> I want an i5-661 (with a 900MHz GPU instead of 733MHz)
[10:12] <buzz_> screen-x, nice res screen :) im thinking 24" would be nice here..
[10:13] <screen-x> buzz_: it is just about powerful enough to run hugin's gl preview full screen :)
[10:13] <daubers> \o/ hugin
[10:13] <screen-x> looks promising: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Apple-Powerbook-G4-Alluminium15-2-Spares-Repairs-/200559749701?pt=UK_Computing_Apple_Laptops_ET&hash=item2eb24aea45#ht_500wt_1040
[10:14] <daubers> screen-x: Need a screen?
[10:14] <buzz_> aah. hugin, i used that before
[10:14] <screen-x> daubers: yep
[10:14] <screen-x> daubers: A1095
[10:14] <buzz_> was impressed how easy it was to make a panorama on it
[10:16] <nperry> Hmmmmm diaspora is very intresting
[10:20] <screen-x> daubers: hugin https://photos-2.dropbox.com/i/o/mRL77pUGn-88ycmTbq3jkVQRd0B9YTc5Dkxre0xYw6A/4194155/1293879600/45e2764
[10:22] <daubers> screen-x: Nice :)
[10:22] <screen-x> Its quite noisy as there wasn't much light in there, but hugin did a very good job of the stitching :)
[10:23] <daubers> screen-x: Hugin _monster_ http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattdaubney/4270977863/
[10:23] <screen-x> 66!
[10:23] <daubers> Yup :)
[10:23] <daubers> That would be 12788 x 4922
[10:23] <screen-x> I did one that was 34....
[10:24] <Phineas> that worked
[10:24] <screen-x> daubers: Did you do exposure stacking/hdr?
[10:24] <danfish> daubers: what were you doing? Photoing each branch individually :P
[10:25] <daubers> screen-x: No, just took loads with a zoom lens to see how big a pano hugin could handle
[10:25] <daubers> screen-x: Turned out it's quite a big pano.....
[10:26] <screen-x> yep.. hugin is awesome :)
[10:26] <daubers> This was from my backgarden in the last house I was in in Swansea http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattdaubney/3250527530/
[10:28] <screen-x> daubers: :) shame flickr won't let you view a larger res.
[10:28] <daubers> screen-x: actions -> view all sized
[10:28] <daubers> s/sized/sizes
[10:28] <daubers> or http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattdaubney/3250527530/sizes/o/ :)
[10:29] <screen-x> ahh that's better ;-)
[10:33] <markf> Does anyone here know how i could get 'pstack' for 10.04 64bit? Only appears to exist for 32bit.... i don't mind compiling from source if i have to just i can't even find that to download .... probably because its more a Redhat thing?
[10:35] <marsilainen> I think I prefer thunderbird to evolution
[10:48] <buzz_> a panorama i made some years ago. first ever use of hugin http://malus.exotica.org.uk/~buzz/panorama.jpg
[10:49] <screen-x> buzz_: nice vivid colours, looks like a brochure shot :)
[10:49] <buzz_> thanks. well. pretty basic camera really. maybe i got lucky :)
[10:50] <buzz_> hugin did the hard work :D
[10:51] <dwatkins> grrr, I'm really annoyed with city link right now for their failure to deliver
[10:52] <daubers> dwatkins: City Link are a bit rubbish
[10:52] <dwatkins> daubers: understatement :(
[10:52] <daubers> dwatkins: Last time they failed to deliver a package of mine I charged them for the fuel to come collect it + my time (as I proved without a doubt they hadn't attempted delivery)
[10:53] <daubers> Hooray for loggin doorbell!
[10:53] <screen-x> daubers: brilliant
[10:53] <buzz_> daubers, and they paid up etc ?
[10:53] <daubers> "We tried to deliver at about 1pm" "Nope, no-one rang the bell until 4"
[10:53] <daubers> buzz_: If you wait until they're busy and just sit there until they agree then hey'll give you anything to go away
[10:54] <buzz_> daubers, nice. and how have you logged doorbell rings ?
[10:54] <daubers> buzz_: http://daubers.co.uk/2008/02/06/bluetooth-xmpp-doorbell/
[10:54] <daubers> Doesn't work anymore though :( Working on a replacement
[10:55] <dwatkins> daubers: my buzzer doesn't work, so I was hoping they would actually try and call the numbers I provided to the delivery company
[10:55] <buzz_> daubers, hah. cool idea!
[10:55] <daubers> dwatkins: I had an interesting argument with city link about that exact thing the other day
[10:56] <dwatkins> oh yes, daubers?
[10:56] <daubers> dwatkins: Went along the lines of "Our drivers don't have phones, I'll just find out where they are" "How are you contacting them if they don't have phones?" "They have company phones"
[10:56] <dwatkins> haha
[10:56] <daubers> One four page complaint to City Link later and I got an apology saying that they _could_ have used the company phone, even though it's not policy to do so
[10:57] <daubers> Delivery companies are all a bunch of swindlers
[10:58] <buzz_> daubers, if i search on google for "bluetooth doorbell" your site is first.. :)
[10:58] <dwatkins> daubers: totally, I really really wish Amazon didn't use city link, though, they are particularly bad
[10:59] <buzz_> daubers, i think this would be a cool product actually. doorbell that is logged.. you could sell it and make millions (or something) :)
[10:59] <daubers> dwatkins: Yeah :( First time I had to deal with them was when I bought my Psion Revo, they found my package in the cardboard to be crushed pile
[10:59] <daubers> Was _not_ happy. Psion did give me my money back for the delivery though
[10:59]  * dwatkins is livid and now has to go get the car from work to collect the bloomin TV
[10:59] <dwatkins> so much for getting it delivered
[11:00] <dwatkins> right, I suppose I should go get a bus, later folks, don't use citylink
[11:02] <daubers> dwatkins: Make sure you complain to Amazon
[11:03]  * screen-x has solved all delivery problems by getting stuff delivered to work :)
[11:03] <daubers> screen-x: I do that these days. Or collect from the store.
[11:04] <screen-x> time for tea
[11:04] <buzz_> parted is rubbish. it has a resize command that attempts to resize partition and filesystem, but if it doesnt support the filesystem, you cant use this, and i just wanted to resize the partition, and not the underlying filesystem. no way of doing it. its a manual delete recreate in same location. lame
[11:06] <screen-x> buzz_: if you don't care about the fs, you could create a fs that parted understands in that partition, then resize it.
[11:06] <screen-x> Or use lvm :)
[11:07] <buzz_> screen-x, well. i have a filesystem underneath, resizing that is another operation later on
[11:07] <screen-x> buzz_: wouldn't it be safer to resize the fs before that partition?
[11:07] <buzz_> you gotta resize partition first
[11:07] <buzz_> then grow fs
[11:07] <buzz_> if you want it bigger
[11:08] <screen-x> ahh pardon me, for some reason I assumed we were shrinking, though you didn't say that!
[11:08] <buzz_> shrinking, you dod the fs first of course
[11:08] <buzz_> yeh
[11:13] <buzz_> screen-x, ill do it manually. or script it .. getting the start of the partition in bytes = OFFSET=`parted /dev/sdb unit b print | grep "^ 3" | sed "s/ \+/ /g" | cut -d" " -f 3 | sed -e "s/\([0-9]\+\)B/\1/g"`; - you would think there is a simpler way :)
[11:18] <screen-x> buzz_: parted -m
[11:18] <buzz_> oops :)
[11:19] <buzz_> doh
[11:19] <buzz_> thanks
[11:19] <buzz_> how did i miss that!
[11:21] <screen-x> A packaged was scanned departing Dublin at 01:00 this morning, guess when UPS predict it will be delivered to Cardiff?
[11:23] <ali1234> wednesday
[11:24] <screen-x> ali1234: close
[11:56] <czajkowski> I'm BACK :D
[11:56] <danfish> quick everyone hide :P
[11:57] <danfish> a better journey this time then :)
[11:58] <czajkowski> danfish: yup!
[11:59] <AlanBell> welcome back czajkowski
[12:00] <danfish> what was it this time? - on the back of a sea turtle to Scotland, then a donkey to Birmingham and biplane from there ;)
[12:06] <czajkowski> danfish: shannon heathrow, bus to woking and train to aldershot
[12:06] <czajkowski> 5.5 hrs door to doo!
[12:06] <czajkowski> door
[12:06] <AlanBell> 20x faster
[12:06] <czajkowski> aye and no dealing with BAA
[12:07] <danfish> bah! so conventional, but must be relief :)
[12:07] <AlanBell> out partying tonight?
[12:07]  * AlanBell is having a fairly quiet night
[12:08] <AlanBell> might pop round to theopensourcerer for a bit though
[12:08] <czajkowski> danfish: I'm not I'm recovered enough to go through that ordeal again any time soon
[12:08] <czajkowski> AlanBell: no idea tbh. I fancy a quiet drink or two, but I've been drinking for the last 6 nights straight
[12:11] <czajkowski> hmm the mothership packed a dvd planes trains and automobiles she has a weird sense of humour!
[12:11] <popey> THOSE AREN'T PILLOWS!
[12:12] <czajkowski> popey: never seen it
[12:15] <czajkowski> popey: good christmas?
[12:15] <popey> ya
[12:19] <buzz_> screen-x, ok in the end i did "OFFSET=`parted -m /dev/sdb unit s print | grep "^3" | cut -d":" -f 2`; parted /dev/sdb -- unit s rm 3 mkpart primary btrfs $OFFSET -1s" to resize partition 3 to the end of the disk. cheers for the heads up again on -m ;-)
[12:19] <AlanBell> trip to the design museum in London in Feb maybe? http://design.canonical.com/2010/12/design-museum-exhibition-london/
[12:28] <ali1234> AlanBell: the comments on that are lulzy
[12:28] <jgblanco> hi
[12:28] <ali1234> and seriously, why is there no capital M?
[12:28] <popey> there is
[12:28] <popey> its in the title of that blog post
[12:28] <popey> :p
[12:46] <brobostigon> afternoonings all.
[12:46] <screen-x> afternooon brobostigon
[12:46] <brobostigon> afternoonings screen-x
[12:54]  * daubers puts on an episode of thunderbirds
[12:57] <screen-x> daubers: did you create tracy island with the instructions on blue peter?
[13:02] <daubers> screen-x: Yup, but my dad sat on it :(
[13:02] <screen-x> Heh.. I can't remember the fate of ours
[13:15] <kvarley> I cant get my netbook to boot into the usb install, despite changing the boot order in bios. I have access to grub command line, is there a way I can boot it from here?
[13:16] <screen-x> kvarley: do you have another machine you can test the usb stick on?
[13:16] <kvarley> screen-x Yes
[13:16] <kvarley> I have tried the netbook with a usb stick, sd card and also sd card in a caddy tho
[13:16] <kvarley> Will try on my desktop
[13:17] <screen-x> It should be possible to boot the netbook straight from the usb stick, as long as the image was written correctly to the usb stick.
[13:19] <kvarley> screen-x That's interesting, I was in the grub command line and was going to exit it so I typed "exit" and then when I ran that command it booted into the usb stick with ubuntu on
[13:22] <screen-x> kvarley: interesting... so you are in a position to do the install now?
[13:22] <screen-x> people getting narky in bug 94065
[13:22] <kvarley> screen-x Yes, its installing now. Thanks for the help :)
[13:33] <Phineas> i have returned
[13:42] <Phineas> caution: offtopic hour in ##windows
[13:50] <Phineas> Azelphur, your prize is ready
[13:51] <nperry> \o
[13:55] <buzz_> im convinved phineas is some kind of bot that scrapes random text from the www and pastes it to irc
[14:03]  * dwatkins returns still annoyed with city-link
[14:05] <buzz_> oh dear..
[14:06] <dwatkins> yeah, they really need to sort out their website and their call centre, buzz_
[14:06] <buzz_> they are too busy stamping on the parcels
[14:07] <buzz_> i agree with all previous comments on how crap they are
[14:10] <dwatkins> buzz_: I will be writing to city link and amazon
[14:11] <dwatkins> I wouldn't mind if they'd just called me when they were supposedly here at 9:30am.
[14:15] <Apacheuk_> afternoon all, anyone here that knows a little about netgear adsl modem/routers.... I have a concern that mine is publicly accessible and I can't seem to stop that
[14:16] <dwatkins> Apacheuk_: you can check at the "shields up" website.
[14:16] <bigcalm> Time to visit more relatives
[14:16] <bigcalm> Happy New Year peeps
[14:16] <dwatkins> likewise bigcalm
[14:17] <dwatkins> Apacheuk_: alternatively, I can run nmap on your IP address and tell you [privately] the results
[14:17] <Apacheuk_> dwatkins: I've done that and everything looks OK.... yet when I surf to my wan IP address on my phone it gives me my admin login page
[14:17] <screen-x> have fun bigcalm :)
[14:18] <screen-x> Apacheuk_: from within your home network?
[14:18] <dwatkins> Apacheuk_: is the phone connecting internally via wifi or externally via 3G?
[14:18] <bigcalm> screen-x: thanks, you too :)
[14:18] <Apacheuk_> dwatkins: ahhhh...... my bad.... doh! :)
[14:19] <Apacheuk_> dwatkins: everythings ok..... once I remember to turn wifi off :)
[14:19] <dwatkins> Apacheuk_: you should be able to configure it to only allow access to the admin interface from a physical [i.e. ethernet] connection
[14:20] <Apacheuk_> dwatkins: yeah thats what I had, but panic'd when I was able to connect from the phone.... forgetting it was connected via wifi
[14:20] <dwatkins> ah I see, glad it's not as bad as you thought, Apacheuk_
[14:22] <Apacheuk_> dwatkins: me too, can now get back to what I was trying to do in the first place, set up dyndns so can ssh in from work/phone etc
[14:22] <dwatkins> Apacheuk_: I suggest reading this: http://www.ehow.com/how_5118085_check-open-ports-computer.html just to put your mind at rest
[14:23] <Apacheuk_> dwatkins: cheers, I've known about shields up/GRC for while.... but thanks anyway
[14:23] <dwatkins> you're welcome :)
[15:26] <MartijnVdS> http://i.imgur.com/7uzpH.png
[15:26] <MartijnVdS> *whistle*
[15:27] <Nafallo> oh god.
[15:27] <MartijnVdS> Nafallo: hm?
[15:27] <Nafallo> evil image is evil
[15:29] <MartijnVdS> hmm.. 14 minutes of Telegraph Road
[15:29] <MartijnVdS> \o/
[15:31] <jacobw> hi guys
[15:33] <_H> this year held 10283101000000 Facebook activities
[15:34] <Nafallo> people should get out more
[15:34] <MartijnVdS> Nafallo: you can update facebook from your phone, while you're "out" and "doing stuff"
[15:35] <Nafallo> oh. I read that as events.
[15:35] <Nafallo> pretty sure it's just not updates. that number seems way low for that.
[15:36] <_H> no its all activities together
[15:36] <_H> (26280*1000000)+(1323000*1484000)+(1587000*1851000)+(1972000*2716000)
[15:36] <MartijnVdS> Nafallo: 10k updates/person if you assume 1.000.000.000 users
[15:36] <_H> Shared links: 1,000,000Tagged photos: 1,323,000Event invites sent out: 1,484,000Wall posts: 1,587,000Status updates: 1,851,000Friend requests accepted: 1,972,000Photos uploaded: 2,716,000Comments: 10,208,000Messages: 4,632,000Likes: 7,657,000
[15:37] <Nafallo> hmm. 27 updates a day.
[15:37] <_H> that's every 20 mins
[15:37] <MartijnVdS> that's a lot
[15:37] <_H> so every 20 mins there are Shared links: 1,000,000Tagged photos: 1,323,000Event invites sent out: 1,484,000Wall posts: 1,587,000Status updates: 1,851,000Friend requests accepted: 1,972,000Photos uploaded: 2,716,000Comments: 10,208,000Messages: 4,632,000Likes: 7,657,000
[15:38] <MartijnVdS> maybe not if you're a teenager ;)
[15:38]  * Nafallo shrugs
[15:38] <_H> I timsed  the 20 min blocks together to get an hour - 20*3=60
[15:39] <_H> then 3*24
[15:39] <_H> the answer to that was timesed 364 times
[15:40] <_H> thus the answr
[15:40] <_H> and that number was timesed against the list...
[15:40] <_H> and they added together
[15:40] <ali1234> i can't believe there are as many invites sent out and friend requests accepted as there are status updates and wall posts
[15:40] <_H> mashable.com/2010/12/31/facebook-by-the-numbers-in-2010-stats/
[15:41] <MartijnVdS> http://i.imgur.com/FC1Zm.jpg
[15:41] <jacobw> hehe
[15:41] <_H> MartijnVdS: you missed the open palm hand forward one.... lol [joke]
[15:42] <MartijnVdS> _H: it starts at the 60s/70s, not the 30s/40s ;)
[15:45] <_H> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7-rC6TVcpQ&feature=player_embedded I am scared for life
[15:51] <penguin42> _H: Did you buy that server?
[15:51] <_H> penguin42: no
[15:52] <_H> I went but the flt had mafia outside
[15:52] <_H> so.... I walked past quickly
[15:52] <penguin42> haha
[15:53] <_H> I know mafia when I see them [big cars black coats heavys...]
[15:56]  * Nafallo puts tictacs in his irn bru for giggles
[15:56] <czajkowski> hmm are shops open? need to get food in
[15:56] <penguin42> czajkowski: Sainsburys was a few mins ago
[15:56] <penguin42> _H: Explains why it was so cheap
[15:57] <Nafallo> czajkowski: some are.
[15:57] <Nafallo> well. Canary Wharf will close at 5pm.
[15:57] <Nafallo> I should get going,
[15:57] <_H> I got a date tonight
[15:58]  * _H can't wait for her date
[15:58] <_H> she is really cool :) we make each other giggle loads
[16:03] <Nafallo> mmmm. nice new t-shirt ♥
[18:26] <niall> I notice that Ubuntu 10.10 doesn't come with tunctl and when I tried to apt-get it, it wasn't there. What would be the alternative, or would be best just getting the source and compiling?
[18:26] <niall> *would it be
[18:31] <Nafallo> niall: uml-utilities
[18:32] <niall> uml as in Universal Modelling Language?
[18:32] <Nafallo> as in the package containing the binary you're after.
[18:32] <Nafallo> ;-)
[18:32] <niall> Swish!
[18:33] <niall> Thank you so much, Nafallo. +1 sir!
[18:34] <Nafallo> no worries
[18:37] <Nafallo> all I did was trying to run it to trigger command-not-found anyway ;-P
[18:52] <marsilainen> I'm thinking of installing majordomo, though I'm aware that the vast majority of people use mailman; anyone know the reasons people go for mailman rather than majordomo these days?
[18:52] <marsilainen> I'm thinking of using majordomo since it appears to support virtual domains better than mailman
[18:52] <Azelphur> ah, my HTC Desire Z is shiny now. Cyanogen 6.1 and rooted :D
[18:53] <marsilainen> ie. you seem to be able to have    listbob@domain1.com   and listbob@domain2.com   with majordomo, whereas I think you can't do that (easily) with mailman (each list needs unique name across virtual domains AIUI)
[18:55] <marsilainen> though having said that, maybe majordomo has the same limitation :/
[18:55] <marsilainen> any other suggestions?
[19:12] <marsilainen> maybe I'll ditch this and use a web-forum with email integration
[19:12] <marsilainen> eg. drupal's advanced forums with some modules to integrate email
[19:20] <ali1234> i heard the desire Z has deathgrip problems...
[19:32] <Azelphur> ali1234: not that I've seen *shrug*
[19:58] <dwatkins> Azelphur: did you need to install CM in order for the phone to be good?
[19:59] <dwatkins> I'm not saying there's anything wrong with Cyanogenmod, I just think the supplied OS should be better if so many people end up reinstalling.
[19:59] <popey> +1
[20:14] <Azelphur> dwatkins: not at all, I spent the first few days thinking I won't even bother to root because it has everything I want
[20:14] <Azelphur> then I saw someone overclock to 1.4ghz :D
[20:15] <Azelphur> HTC sense is kinda annoying, it has a lot of unremovable bloatware apps
[20:15] <Azelphur> so basically I rooted because I wanted to overclock and remove some bloatware
[20:18] <dwatkins> I wonder if I can overclock my HTC Desire HD.
[20:31] <Azelphur> hehe I have my G2 clocked to 1.5 :D
[20:31] <Azelphur> runs playstation games at 40-50FPS hehe
[20:36] <ball> Does overclocking it shorten the battery run-time?
[20:36] <Azelphur> yes
[20:36] <dwatkins> I'd like to be able to underclock my phone to save battery.
[20:37] <Nafallo> see... that'd make more sense to me.
[20:37] <Nafallo> being able to put in a bigger battery and use dynamic clocks, even more so.
[20:37] <dwatkins> People like being able to control their phones in many ways.
[20:38] <dwatkins> Yes, that too.
[20:39] <ball> Here comes the tornado we were warned about.
[20:39] <Nafallo> can you actually change to ondemand scheduling on these CPUs?
[20:45] <ball> It got a bit dark there for a while.
[20:46] <ball> Nafallo: What are they running? ARM?
[20:47] <Nafallo> ball: yah.
[20:53] <ball> Hello DYSW
[20:54] <DYSW> Hey Ball. First time anybody writes me here. Happy new year.
[21:05] <dwatkins> Hi ball & DYSW, many happy returns of the year
[21:06] <DYSW> two hours left. Take care
[21:06] <dwatkins> Three to go here.
[21:19] <daubers> Woot! 21:19 on new years eve and I'm abusing the office network as harshly as I can
[21:20] <Nafallo> daubers: testing new equipment? ;-)
[21:20] <daubers> Nafallo: Writing a backupey/syncy tool as a thought experiment. Office network is better than mine, and there's an 8 disk raid sat idle in the office
[21:21] <Nafallo> ah. so yeah. testing new software equipment :-P
[21:21] <daubers> :p
[21:22] <daubers> I want to replace rsync with something that just sends a constant barrage of data across a tcp stream to keep the speed up
[21:22] <Nafallo> :-)
[21:22] <Nafallo> that does sounds very sensible... doesn't it.
[21:22] <daubers> Well... maybe
[21:23] <daubers> Hence the "experiment"
[21:39] <daubers> What ever happened to "Shareware"
[21:44] <directhex> daubers: keygens
[21:46] <penguin42> daubers: It became the appstore
[21:49] <daubers> i see
[21:51] <AlanBell> http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/2011plan
[21:56] <daubers> Has the uk etherpad had an upgrade?
[21:57] <AlanBell> a bit, yes
[21:59] <mattt> i wish there was a bit more unity w/ default key combos on ubuntu
[21:59] <mattt> ie. opening a new window, etc.
[23:55] <MartijnVdS> happy new year everyone :-)
[23:55] <penguin42> it's definitely not new year in this channel yet
[23:56] <MartijnVdS> (I know, 5 minutes, but it's already 2011 here ;-))