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pleia2we'll be a few minutes late, but we'll be there :)02:18
nUboon2Agewell yvonne and i might be a few minutes late as well, but we'll be there.02:22
nUboon2AgeHope to see y'all at the Ubuntu Hour: Palo Alto tonight, 7pm at Antonio's Nut House on California Ave (near Caltrain and near Park Ave.) outofjungle, crashsystems, crashsystems1, esrrms, jamalta, jledbetter, jtatum, pleia2, rww, Yasumoto02:24
nUboon2AgeDetails and RSVP: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/605/detail/02:29
jtatumgreetings from the palo alto ubuntu hour03:02
jledbetterin da hizouse (aka Antonio's Nut House)03:04
jledbetterAnd more are showing up by the minute. Cool beans.03:08
jtatum7 people here03:20
jledbetterMarkDude, WHAT? I heard you can't make it :(03:27
MarkDudeYep03:28
jledbetterToo bad :(03:28
* MarkDude was just given a todo list or two03:30
* MarkDude has had a few opportunities fall in his lap03:30
jledbetterWell, opportunities are a good thing. Next time, hopefully.03:32
MarkDudeYep03:42
MarkDudeHave to sort out a GK board vote on something urgent03:42
* MarkDude has one offer on the table- 1 already past. I feel special :)03:43
MarkDudeLike Sally Fields in that speech - you really like me03:43
MarkDudeI was really looking forward to going tho03:43
jledbetterYeah, this place is wild.03:46
MarkDudeTake pics03:48
MarkDudeThe team needs stuff for social media03:49
MarkDudeThis group is far more dynamic than the uniformed might think03:49
MarkDudeSo we should inform them via stuff we do03:50
* MarkDude humbly thinks this will help the group grow, which would be awesome :)03:50
jledbetterI agree about photos but not sure how people feel about being captured. Will ask :)03:54
jtatumhey akk04:04
akkhi jtatum04:04
jtatumi thought maybe we'd see you in palo alto tonight04:06
akkNo, busy over the holidays.04:07
jtatumyeah, i hear that04:08
* pleia2 waves04:08
akkHow's the palo alto UH going?04:08
akkIs it still going on?04:08
pleia2it's good :)04:09
pleia2and yeah, still going on04:10
pleia2MarkDude: jledbetter is very disappointed at the lack of MarkDude!04:11
pleia2hi stbuurto!04:42
jtatumgreetings04:42
pleia2:)04:42
jledbetterYes04:44
MarkDudepleia2, I wish I could be there, but, I need to make sure that quite a few ducks in a row to be ready for CLS, and a talk on the 17th in LUGOD, and FUDcon at the end of the month04:45
pleia2of course :)04:45
MarkDudeHoly crap I have a lot to do04:45
pleia2just teasing04:45
* MarkDude has her shirt somewhere to04:46
* MarkDude is thinking of asking some groups for more SWAG04:46
MarkDudeI can ask more places than when I am employed :D04:46
MarkDudeMaybe see if we can get MS to pay for a geeknic or two04:47
MarkDudeYokoZar, are you in the living yet?05:01
MarkDudeHave you folks taken any pics at the Hour yet?05:03
* MarkDude is not saying we need live streaming or anything05:04
pleia2jledbetter took some on her fancy camera05:04
pleia2here's one with no people: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/5308217691/05:04
pleia2:D05:04
pleia2hehe05:04
pleia2http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/5308275687/05:10
jtatumooh05:15
jtatumwe should do live streaming05:15
jtatummaybe next time... i think i could make taht happen on ustream or something05:15
jtatumwhatever the foss ustream is05:15
MarkDudeJono uses Ustream since it is the best option that works05:18
MarkDudeNo real FOSS options05:18
pleia2yeah :\05:18
* MarkDude is going to be trying to stream the Severed Fifth show on the 22nd05:19
MarkDudeThat flying pig is cool05:20
pleia2ok, heading home now :)05:22
jtatumfarewell05:23
Eurekawiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Partimus edited08:16
jledbetterI now have internet. Hello.18:55
jledbetterhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/digifoo/5308649517/19:06
MarkDudeIs anyone up for either helping with live stream The Severed Fifth show in Oakland on the 22nd or helping record the video to be edited later? http://www.severedfifth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=13922:27
seidosactually, that reminds me, i need to listen to the music to see if there is a song i like22:31
MarkDudeGood luck :)22:33
MarkDudeThose of you about to rock, we salute you22:33
MarkDudehttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/2424094/6%20-%20Forgotten%20Heroes.mp322:34
MarkDudeBest clip of it IMHO22:34
MarkDudeThat was the point I knew it would be easy to promote his stuff22:34
seidoswhat, no bit torrent link on severedfifth.com ?22:35
* MarkDude would still promote it if it sucked, it would just be much harder :)22:35
MarkDudeJust direct download22:35
seidosdirect download?  what's that?22:36
seidoswhy would you promote something that sucked?22:36
seidosi have some sucky stuff that *i* did, and i wouldn't torment people with it22:36
MarkDudeloyalty22:37
seidoswell, i tormented a friend of mine, but not with the worst of it22:37
seidosMarkDude, are you a white cosmic dog?22:37
* MarkDude would not present a turd as anything else but a turd22:37
MarkDudeseidos, the answer to that question is *Mu*22:37
seidosMarkDude, not Pi, but *Mu*?22:38
MarkDudeYes22:38
MarkDudeThere is a giant Mu in Walnut Creek near where we have geeknics, its pretty cool22:39
seidosmu's look sad22:40
MarkDudeMu can express the follies of mankind22:46
MarkDudeThat most certainly can contain humor22:47
MarkDudeand of course sadness22:47
seidos"seidos" can express the four noble truths.22:47
* MarkDude chooses to look at the positive side of things22:47
seidosi choose to look at reality22:47
MarkDudeseidos, of course, I do not invalidate any of your beliefs or views :)22:48
seidosnever claimed you did MarkDude22:48
seidosi don't invalidate any of yours either22:48
* MarkDude might suggest a difference between looking at the reality, and looking for the less savory aspects of a situation. Those will *always* be there. Finding them is not always a productive skill for me to dwell in.22:50
MarkDudeI know :)22:50
seidosi don't recommend dwelling, whether positive or negative.22:50
MarkDudeOr, knowing there are always flaws differs from looking for them22:51
seidoswell, i suppose that isn't accurate22:51
seidosduring meditation rapture is supposed to be a mark22:51
seidosthough i tend to skip that part22:51
MarkDudeWell some Buddhists view + and - as pretty much the same22:51
seidosflaws are superficial enough that they need not be searched for22:51
MarkDude+122:52
seidosi don't think they should be dwelled on.  no point in dwelling on the flaws...well...unless you have a goal to it22:52
seidosthen i suppose it could be worth it22:53
seidosas he scratches his head though there is no itch22:53
MarkDude^^^ that is the *key* if you ask me.22:54
MarkDudePushing through negativity makes sense if there *is* a purpose that will help you in the long run\22:54
MarkDudeeven if you did not laugh, do you understand my answer?22:55
seidosyes and no is mu22:56
MarkDudeIn a way it is a Schrödinger's cat of philosophy22:56
MarkDudeYou are correct both answers do exist in the answer, it acknowledges them both.22:57
MarkDudeSoon, when you are able to grab the pebble from my hand, you will be ready to leave for your Journeys, Grasshopper.22:58
MarkDudeYou have already mastered walking on layers of rice paper without breaking any of them :)22:58
seidosand when you know the four noble truths, you'll be able to leave on yours22:59
* MarkDude smiles and thanks you for your truth23:00
seidosit is not my truth.  i do not own it.23:00
MarkDudeYou are a vessel that carries it, minutiae in details of grammar are distractions23:01
MarkDudeYour path in 2011 will be a great one.23:01
seidoswhat isn't a distraction?23:02
MarkDudealways a student/teacher, dont forget the other half of that equation23:02
seidosno word for student/teacher23:03
seidosshould be23:03
MarkDudeyes there are lots23:03
seidosbut that might be deemed a minutiae of grammar23:03
seidossuch as?23:03
MarkDudeyin/yang for one, Dao for another23:03
seidosmight as well say Mu.23:04
MarkDudeYes, because it answers both questions at once23:04
seidosno, because it is not a true pointer to a teacher/student student label23:04
MarkDudeJust as the Master can never stay enlightened, if the do not do the other side and chop wood, carry water23:05
seidosno, because if the master stops chopping wood and carrying water, they will die.23:05
MarkDudeIf those are viewed as one, instead of two items, it becomes an answer of how to do both best23:05
seidosbut i suppose it depends on what you believe happens after death23:06
MarkDudeSome Masters can forget that they need to continue to learning23:06
MarkDudeso they most also be a student, to be the best teacher23:06
seidosi don't disagree.  which is why i thought there should be a specific word for teacher/student.23:08
MarkDudeIt has no start or end, the only piece you need to answer using that Truth of Life is to figure out where your are in life now23:08
seidosgoogle doesn't have a recommendation -_-23:09
MarkDudeBali has no word for Art, it is inherent in most things they do23:09
MarkDudeGoogle switched their motto a while ago23:09
MarkDudeNow it is Try sorta to not be evil23:09
seidoshave you been to Bali?23:09
MarkDudeNo, but, I will go at some point23:10
* MarkDude has friends that have been23:10
seidosi don't plan on going23:10
seidosand why do you say this about Google?23:11
MarkDudeI admire that some things can become so entwined in a community, that it need not be stated23:11
seidosan appreciation for silence, interesting23:11

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