[02:18] we'll be a few minutes late, but we'll be there :) [02:22] well yvonne and i might be a few minutes late as well, but we'll be there. [02:24] Hope to see y'all at the Ubuntu Hour: Palo Alto tonight, 7pm at Antonio's Nut House on California Ave (near Caltrain and near Park Ave.) outofjungle, crashsystems, crashsystems1, esrrms, jamalta, jledbetter, jtatum, pleia2, rww, Yasumoto [02:29] Details and RSVP: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/605/detail/ [03:02] greetings from the palo alto ubuntu hour [03:04] in da hizouse (aka Antonio's Nut House) [03:08] And more are showing up by the minute. Cool beans. [03:20] 7 people here [03:27] MarkDude, WHAT? I heard you can't make it :( [03:28] Yep [03:28] Too bad :( [03:30] * MarkDude was just given a todo list or two [03:30] * MarkDude has had a few opportunities fall in his lap [03:32] Well, opportunities are a good thing. Next time, hopefully. [03:42] Yep [03:42] Have to sort out a GK board vote on something urgent [03:43] * MarkDude has one offer on the table- 1 already past. I feel special :) [03:43] Like Sally Fields in that speech - you really like me [03:43] I was really looking forward to going tho [03:46] Yeah, this place is wild. [03:48] Take pics [03:49] The team needs stuff for social media [03:49] This group is far more dynamic than the uniformed might think [03:50] So we should inform them via stuff we do [03:50] * MarkDude humbly thinks this will help the group grow, which would be awesome :) [03:54] I agree about photos but not sure how people feel about being captured. Will ask :) [04:04] hey akk [04:04] hi jtatum [04:06] i thought maybe we'd see you in palo alto tonight [04:07] No, busy over the holidays. [04:08] yeah, i hear that [04:08] * pleia2 waves [04:08] How's the palo alto UH going? [04:08] Is it still going on? [04:09] it's good :) [04:10] and yeah, still going on [04:11] MarkDude: jledbetter is very disappointed at the lack of MarkDude! [04:42] hi stbuurto! [04:42] greetings [04:42] :) [04:44] Yes [04:45] pleia2, I wish I could be there, but, I need to make sure that quite a few ducks in a row to be ready for CLS, and a talk on the 17th in LUGOD, and FUDcon at the end of the month [04:45] of course :) [04:45] Holy crap I have a lot to do [04:45] just teasing [04:46] * MarkDude has her shirt somewhere to [04:46] * MarkDude is thinking of asking some groups for more SWAG [04:46] I can ask more places than when I am employed :D [04:47] Maybe see if we can get MS to pay for a geeknic or two [05:01] YokoZar, are you in the living yet? [05:03] Have you folks taken any pics at the Hour yet? [05:04] * MarkDude is not saying we need live streaming or anything [05:04] jledbetter took some on her fancy camera [05:04] here's one with no people: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/5308217691/ [05:04] :D [05:04] hehe [05:10] http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/5308275687/ [05:15] ooh [05:15] we should do live streaming [05:15] maybe next time... i think i could make taht happen on ustream or something [05:15] whatever the foss ustream is [05:18] Jono uses Ustream since it is the best option that works [05:18] No real FOSS options [05:18] yeah :\ [05:19] * MarkDude is going to be trying to stream the Severed Fifth show on the 22nd [05:20] That flying pig is cool [05:22] ok, heading home now :) [05:23] farewell [08:16] wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Partimus edited [18:55] I now have internet. Hello. [19:06] http://www.flickr.com/photos/digifoo/5308649517/ [22:27] Is anyone up for either helping with live stream The Severed Fifth show in Oakland on the 22nd or helping record the video to be edited later? http://www.severedfifth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=139 [22:31] actually, that reminds me, i need to listen to the music to see if there is a song i like [22:33] Good luck :) [22:33] Those of you about to rock, we salute you [22:34] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2424094/6%20-%20Forgotten%20Heroes.mp3 [22:34] Best clip of it IMHO [22:34] That was the point I knew it would be easy to promote his stuff [22:35] what, no bit torrent link on severedfifth.com ? [22:35] * MarkDude would still promote it if it sucked, it would just be much harder :) [22:35] Just direct download [22:36] direct download? what's that? [22:36] why would you promote something that sucked? [22:36] i have some sucky stuff that *i* did, and i wouldn't torment people with it [22:37] loyalty [22:37] well, i tormented a friend of mine, but not with the worst of it [22:37] MarkDude, are you a white cosmic dog? [22:37] * MarkDude would not present a turd as anything else but a turd [22:37] seidos, the answer to that question is *Mu* [22:38] MarkDude, not Pi, but *Mu*? [22:38] Yes [22:39] There is a giant Mu in Walnut Creek near where we have geeknics, its pretty cool [22:40] mu's look sad [22:46] Mu can express the follies of mankind [22:47] That most certainly can contain humor [22:47] and of course sadness [22:47] "seidos" can express the four noble truths. [22:47] * MarkDude chooses to look at the positive side of things [22:47] i choose to look at reality [22:48] seidos, of course, I do not invalidate any of your beliefs or views :) [22:48] never claimed you did MarkDude [22:48] i don't invalidate any of yours either [22:50] * MarkDude might suggest a difference between looking at the reality, and looking for the less savory aspects of a situation. Those will *always* be there. Finding them is not always a productive skill for me to dwell in. [22:50] I know :) [22:50] i don't recommend dwelling, whether positive or negative. [22:51] Or, knowing there are always flaws differs from looking for them [22:51] well, i suppose that isn't accurate [22:51] during meditation rapture is supposed to be a mark [22:51] though i tend to skip that part [22:51] Well some Buddhists view + and - as pretty much the same [22:51] flaws are superficial enough that they need not be searched for [22:52] +1 [22:52] i don't think they should be dwelled on. no point in dwelling on the flaws...well...unless you have a goal to it [22:53] then i suppose it could be worth it [22:53] as he scratches his head though there is no itch [22:54] ^^^ that is the *key* if you ask me. [22:54] Pushing through negativity makes sense if there *is* a purpose that will help you in the long run\ [22:55] even if you did not laugh, do you understand my answer? [22:56] yes and no is mu [22:56] In a way it is a Schrödinger's cat of philosophy [22:57] You are correct both answers do exist in the answer, it acknowledges them both. [22:58] Soon, when you are able to grab the pebble from my hand, you will be ready to leave for your Journeys, Grasshopper. [22:58] You have already mastered walking on layers of rice paper without breaking any of them :) [22:59] and when you know the four noble truths, you'll be able to leave on yours [23:00] * MarkDude smiles and thanks you for your truth [23:00] it is not my truth. i do not own it. [23:01] You are a vessel that carries it, minutiae in details of grammar are distractions [23:01] Your path in 2011 will be a great one. [23:02] what isn't a distraction? [23:02] always a student/teacher, dont forget the other half of that equation [23:03] no word for student/teacher [23:03] should be [23:03] yes there are lots [23:03] but that might be deemed a minutiae of grammar [23:03] such as? [23:03] yin/yang for one, Dao for another [23:04] might as well say Mu. [23:04] Yes, because it answers both questions at once [23:04] no, because it is not a true pointer to a teacher/student student label [23:05] Just as the Master can never stay enlightened, if the do not do the other side and chop wood, carry water [23:05] no, because if the master stops chopping wood and carrying water, they will die. [23:05] If those are viewed as one, instead of two items, it becomes an answer of how to do both best [23:06] but i suppose it depends on what you believe happens after death [23:06] Some Masters can forget that they need to continue to learning [23:06] so they most also be a student, to be the best teacher [23:08] i don't disagree. which is why i thought there should be a specific word for teacher/student. [23:08] It has no start or end, the only piece you need to answer using that Truth of Life is to figure out where your are in life now [23:09] google doesn't have a recommendation -_- [23:09] Bali has no word for Art, it is inherent in most things they do [23:09] Google switched their motto a while ago [23:09] Now it is Try sorta to not be evil [23:09] have you been to Bali? [23:10] No, but, I will go at some point [23:10] * MarkDude has friends that have been [23:10] i don't plan on going [23:11] and why do you say this about Google? [23:11] I admire that some things can become so entwined in a community, that it need not be stated [23:11] an appreciation for silence, interesting