[02:18] <pleia2> we'll be a few minutes late, but we'll be there :)
[02:22] <nUboon2Age> well yvonne and i might be a few minutes late as well, but we'll be there.
[02:24] <nUboon2Age> Hope to see y'all at the Ubuntu Hour: Palo Alto tonight, 7pm at Antonio's Nut House on California Ave (near Caltrain and near Park Ave.) outofjungle, crashsystems, crashsystems1, esrrms, jamalta, jledbetter, jtatum, pleia2, rww, Yasumoto
[02:29] <nUboon2Age> Details and RSVP: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/605/detail/
[03:02] <jtatum> greetings from the palo alto ubuntu hour
[03:04] <jledbetter> in da hizouse (aka Antonio's Nut House)
[03:08] <jledbetter> And more are showing up by the minute. Cool beans.
[03:20] <jtatum> 7 people here
[03:27] <jledbetter> MarkDude, WHAT? I heard you can't make it :(
[03:28] <MarkDude> Yep
[03:28] <jledbetter> Too bad :(
[03:30]  * MarkDude was just given a todo list or two
[03:30]  * MarkDude has had a few opportunities fall in his lap
[03:32] <jledbetter> Well, opportunities are a good thing. Next time, hopefully.
[03:42] <MarkDude> Yep
[03:42] <MarkDude> Have to sort out a GK board vote on something urgent
[03:43]  * MarkDude has one offer on the table- 1 already past. I feel special :)
[03:43] <MarkDude> Like Sally Fields in that speech - you really like me
[03:43] <MarkDude> I was really looking forward to going tho
[03:46] <jledbetter> Yeah, this place is wild.
[03:48] <MarkDude> Take pics
[03:49] <MarkDude> The team needs stuff for social media
[03:49] <MarkDude> This group is far more dynamic than the uniformed might think
[03:50] <MarkDude> So we should inform them via stuff we do
[03:50]  * MarkDude humbly thinks this will help the group grow, which would be awesome :)
[03:54] <jledbetter> I agree about photos but not sure how people feel about being captured. Will ask :)
[04:04] <jtatum> hey akk
[04:04] <akk> hi jtatum
[04:06] <jtatum> i thought maybe we'd see you in palo alto tonight
[04:07] <akk> No, busy over the holidays.
[04:08] <jtatum> yeah, i hear that
[04:08]  * pleia2 waves
[04:08] <akk> How's the palo alto UH going?
[04:08] <akk> Is it still going on?
[04:09] <pleia2> it's good :)
[04:10] <pleia2> and yeah, still going on
[04:11] <pleia2> MarkDude: jledbetter is very disappointed at the lack of MarkDude!
[04:42] <pleia2> hi stbuurto!
[04:42] <jtatum> greetings
[04:42] <pleia2> :)
[04:44] <jledbetter> Yes
[04:45] <MarkDude> pleia2, I wish I could be there, but, I need to make sure that quite a few ducks in a row to be ready for CLS, and a talk on the 17th in LUGOD, and FUDcon at the end of the month
[04:45] <pleia2> of course :)
[04:45] <MarkDude> Holy crap I have a lot to do
[04:45] <pleia2> just teasing
[04:46]  * MarkDude has her shirt somewhere to
[04:46]  * MarkDude is thinking of asking some groups for more SWAG
[04:46] <MarkDude> I can ask more places than when I am employed :D
[04:47] <MarkDude> Maybe see if we can get MS to pay for a geeknic or two
[05:01] <MarkDude> YokoZar, are you in the living yet?
[05:03] <MarkDude> Have you folks taken any pics at the Hour yet?
[05:04]  * MarkDude is not saying we need live streaming or anything
[05:04] <pleia2> jledbetter took some on her fancy camera
[05:04] <pleia2> here's one with no people: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/5308217691/
[05:04] <pleia2> :D
[05:04] <pleia2> hehe
[05:10] <pleia2> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/5308275687/
[05:15] <jtatum> ooh
[05:15] <jtatum> we should do live streaming
[05:15] <jtatum> maybe next time... i think i could make taht happen on ustream or something
[05:15] <jtatum> whatever the foss ustream is
[05:18] <MarkDude> Jono uses Ustream since it is the best option that works
[05:18] <MarkDude> No real FOSS options
[05:18] <pleia2> yeah :\
[05:19]  * MarkDude is going to be trying to stream the Severed Fifth show on the 22nd
[05:20] <MarkDude> That flying pig is cool
[05:22] <pleia2> ok, heading home now :)
[05:23] <jtatum> farewell
[08:16] <Eureka> wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Partimus edited
[18:55] <jledbetter> I now have internet. Hello.
[19:06] <jledbetter> http://www.flickr.com/photos/digifoo/5308649517/
[22:27] <MarkDude> Is anyone up for either helping with live stream The Severed Fifth show in Oakland on the 22nd or helping record the video to be edited later? http://www.severedfifth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=139
[22:31] <seidos> actually, that reminds me, i need to listen to the music to see if there is a song i like
[22:33] <MarkDude> Good luck :)
[22:33] <MarkDude> Those of you about to rock, we salute you
[22:34] <MarkDude> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2424094/6%20-%20Forgotten%20Heroes.mp3
[22:34] <MarkDude> Best clip of it IMHO
[22:34] <MarkDude> That was the point I knew it would be easy to promote his stuff
[22:35] <seidos> what, no bit torrent link on severedfifth.com ?
[22:35]  * MarkDude would still promote it if it sucked, it would just be much harder :)
[22:35] <MarkDude> Just direct download
[22:36] <seidos> direct download?  what's that?
[22:36] <seidos> why would you promote something that sucked?
[22:36] <seidos> i have some sucky stuff that *i* did, and i wouldn't torment people with it
[22:37] <MarkDude> loyalty
[22:37] <seidos> well, i tormented a friend of mine, but not with the worst of it
[22:37] <seidos> MarkDude, are you a white cosmic dog?
[22:37]  * MarkDude would not present a turd as anything else but a turd
[22:37] <MarkDude> seidos, the answer to that question is *Mu*
[22:38] <seidos> MarkDude, not Pi, but *Mu*?
[22:38] <MarkDude> Yes
[22:39] <MarkDude> There is a giant Mu in Walnut Creek near where we have geeknics, its pretty cool
[22:40] <seidos> mu's look sad
[22:46] <MarkDude> Mu can express the follies of mankind
[22:47] <MarkDude> That most certainly can contain humor
[22:47] <MarkDude> and of course sadness
[22:47] <seidos> "seidos" can express the four noble truths.
[22:47]  * MarkDude chooses to look at the positive side of things
[22:47] <seidos> i choose to look at reality
[22:48] <MarkDude> seidos, of course, I do not invalidate any of your beliefs or views :)
[22:48] <seidos> never claimed you did MarkDude
[22:48] <seidos> i don't invalidate any of yours either
[22:50]  * MarkDude might suggest a difference between looking at the reality, and looking for the less savory aspects of a situation. Those will *always* be there. Finding them is not always a productive skill for me to dwell in.
[22:50] <MarkDude> I know :)
[22:50] <seidos> i don't recommend dwelling, whether positive or negative.
[22:51] <MarkDude> Or, knowing there are always flaws differs from looking for them
[22:51] <seidos> well, i suppose that isn't accurate
[22:51] <seidos> during meditation rapture is supposed to be a mark
[22:51] <seidos> though i tend to skip that part
[22:51] <MarkDude> Well some Buddhists view + and - as pretty much the same
[22:51] <seidos> flaws are superficial enough that they need not be searched for
[22:52] <MarkDude> +1
[22:52] <seidos> i don't think they should be dwelled on.  no point in dwelling on the flaws...well...unless you have a goal to it
[22:53] <seidos> then i suppose it could be worth it
[22:53] <seidos> as he scratches his head though there is no itch
[22:54] <MarkDude> ^^^ that is the *key* if you ask me.
[22:54] <MarkDude> Pushing through negativity makes sense if there *is* a purpose that will help you in the long run\
[22:55] <MarkDude> even if you did not laugh, do you understand my answer?
[22:56] <seidos> yes and no is mu
[22:56] <MarkDude> In a way it is a Schrödinger's cat of philosophy
[22:57] <MarkDude> You are correct both answers do exist in the answer, it acknowledges them both.
[22:58] <MarkDude> Soon, when you are able to grab the pebble from my hand, you will be ready to leave for your Journeys, Grasshopper.
[22:58] <MarkDude> You have already mastered walking on layers of rice paper without breaking any of them :)
[22:59] <seidos> and when you know the four noble truths, you'll be able to leave on yours
[23:00]  * MarkDude smiles and thanks you for your truth
[23:00] <seidos> it is not my truth.  i do not own it.
[23:01] <MarkDude> You are a vessel that carries it, minutiae in details of grammar are distractions
[23:01] <MarkDude> Your path in 2011 will be a great one.
[23:02] <seidos> what isn't a distraction?
[23:02] <MarkDude> always a student/teacher, dont forget the other half of that equation
[23:03] <seidos> no word for student/teacher
[23:03] <seidos> should be
[23:03] <MarkDude> yes there are lots
[23:03] <seidos> but that might be deemed a minutiae of grammar
[23:03] <seidos> such as?
[23:03] <MarkDude> yin/yang for one, Dao for another
[23:04] <seidos> might as well say Mu.
[23:04] <MarkDude> Yes, because it answers both questions at once
[23:04] <seidos> no, because it is not a true pointer to a teacher/student student label
[23:05] <MarkDude> Just as the Master can never stay enlightened, if the do not do the other side and chop wood, carry water
[23:05] <seidos> no, because if the master stops chopping wood and carrying water, they will die.
[23:05] <MarkDude> If those are viewed as one, instead of two items, it becomes an answer of how to do both best
[23:06] <seidos> but i suppose it depends on what you believe happens after death
[23:06] <MarkDude> Some Masters can forget that they need to continue to learning
[23:06] <MarkDude> so they most also be a student, to be the best teacher
[23:08] <seidos> i don't disagree.  which is why i thought there should be a specific word for teacher/student.
[23:08] <MarkDude> It has no start or end, the only piece you need to answer using that Truth of Life is to figure out where your are in life now
[23:09] <seidos> google doesn't have a recommendation -_-
[23:09] <MarkDude> Bali has no word for Art, it is inherent in most things they do
[23:09] <MarkDude> Google switched their motto a while ago
[23:09] <MarkDude> Now it is Try sorta to not be evil
[23:09] <seidos> have you been to Bali?
[23:10] <MarkDude> No, but, I will go at some point
[23:10]  * MarkDude has friends that have been
[23:10] <seidos> i don't plan on going
[23:11] <seidos> and why do you say this about Google?
[23:11] <MarkDude> I admire that some things can become so entwined in a community, that it need not be stated
[23:11] <seidos> an appreciation for silence, interesting