[00:22] <cyberanger> man, why didn't I do this sooner https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
[00:32] <wrst> cyberanger: you will be proud i'm terminal completely right now what does that do?
[00:35] <wrst> never mind cyberanger  i used links too just to make you happy
[00:58] <cyberanger> hehe
[00:58] <cyberanger> natty give you trouble?
[01:00] <wrst> natty is impossible at the moment for me, working on my desktop some
[01:01] <cyberanger> shame
[01:01] <wrst> yeah i'm sure it will get better, or i hope it does atleast
[01:14] <wrst> i'm installing arch on my desktop just in case
[01:46] <chibihogoshino> thats allot of work wrst
[01:53] <wrst> not really chibihogoshino i can have arch more or less running in a couple of hours, and i hate to have to roll back to 10.04 due to the old pacakges so just having my bases covered
[01:54] <chibihogoshino> why not just compile on top of ubuntu
[01:54] <wrst> compile what?
[01:55] <chibihogoshino> so you dont have to roll back
[01:55] <linuxman410> wrst u here
[01:55] <wrst> i'd rather not be running old packages with 10.04, and i fear natty may be a little squishy and i am not having great great luck with some parts of 10.10
[01:55] <wrst> hey linuxman410
[01:56] <linuxman410> wrst where did you get 800 meg cdr
[01:56] <wrst> didn't linuxman410 i'm using whatever stock is the 700 i guess
[01:57] <wrst> the last natty image i downloaded was 688MB but didn't do me much good as soon as i booted in i got kernel panic
[01:57] <linuxman410> i put a 700 in and tried to burn natty it said not enough room
[01:57] <wrst> which image did you download?
[01:57] <linuxman410> 32 bit
[01:58] <linuxman410> x86
[01:58] <linuxman410> it says it is 751 megs
[01:58] <wrst> you downloading the daily or the alpha linuxman410 ?
[01:59] <linuxman410> alpha
[01:59] <wrst> ok it is over sized
[01:59] <wrst> the daily builds aren't
[01:59] <wrst> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[01:59] <linuxman410> that i what i am saying if it stays that big it will be on dvd
[01:59] <wrst> that gets you the alternate for some reason the live cd page isn't working
[02:00] <wrst> linuxman410: it won't the later images aren't that big check out the daily builds they have that fixed
[02:00] <wrst> they are releasing new images every day
[02:00] <wrst> there is a dvd download but its over a GB
[02:01] <linuxman410> so the live cd i have to burn to dvd to try out
[02:02] <wrst> if you do the alpha but if you download a daily you won't
[02:03] <linuxman410> how come last time alpha was not that big
[02:05] <wrst> there has only been one natty alpha it hink?
[02:05] <wrst> hmm that was strange
[02:07] <wrst> hey refactorcid3 :)
[02:08] <excid3|mbp> hey wrst :P
[02:08] <wrst> ha ha :)
[02:08] <wrst> good nick
[02:08] <excid3|mbp> I was fixing up a LOT of keryx code :P
[02:20] <wrst> :)
[02:50] <chibihogoshino> if you start a x program in ssh can you background it and reconnect later ?
[03:06] <wrst> chibihogoshino: that is way over my head :\
[03:06] <wrst> oh cyberanger
[06:58] <Juzzy> wtf did they move grub's menu.lst in 10.10? :/
[15:01] <wrst> cyberanger: troubles?
[15:06] <cyberanger> wrst: I'm very troubled
[15:07] <cyberanger> why do you ask?
[15:07] <wrst> just saw your disconnect... whats got you troubled?
[17:41] <cyberanger> wrst: oh, not much, just reconfiguring for SASL authentication
[17:41] <cyberanger> and it's not going smoothly
[18:05] <pace_t_zulu> chibihogoshino: ping
[18:27] <chibihogoshino> pace_t_zulu:  mmm ?
[18:28] <pace_t_zulu> chibihogoshino: nevermind ... i didn't seen that you were trying to do it with X
[18:28] <pace_t_zulu> i was going to suggest screen
[18:28] <pace_t_zulu> but that may work too
[18:28] <pace_t_zulu> for an X application
[18:29] <chibihogoshino> how would you push it into the background ?
[18:35] <wrst> cyberanger: if you are still using it shellium is back up
[18:37] <chibihogoshino> yeah. i still need to get approved for access
[18:37] <cyberanger> wrst: backup for what, SASL authentaction?
[18:38] <cyberanger> I still gotta configure shellium's clients for it (actually, scratch that, I won't be configuring that on shellum, I don't want passwords in files on that system)
[18:49] <pace_t_zulu> chibihogoshino:
[18:49] <chibihogoshino> :-)
[18:49] <pace_t_zulu> chibihogoshino: if you create a new screen session ... launch the program ... detach screen ... logout
[18:49] <pace_t_zulu> you can later login and attach the screen
[18:50] <pace_t_zulu> then you'd be back in the program...
[18:50] <pace_t_zulu> that should work... right?
[18:50] <chibihogoshino> ctl z to detach ?
[18:50] <chibihogoshino> how would you reconnect to the program in x ?
[18:51] <pace_t_zulu> [ctl] + [a] ... [ctl] + [d]
[18:51] <pace_t_zulu> will detach
[18:52] <pace_t_zulu> $ screen -S myScreen
[18:52] <pace_t_zulu> ^ create a screen
[18:52] <pace_t_zulu> $ screen -x myScreen
[18:52] <pace_t_zulu> ^ reattach screen
[18:53] <pace_t_zulu> [ctl] + [z] will terminate the screen
[18:54] <chibihogoshino> hmm
[18:56] <chibihogoshino> i detach the screen and the x window is still open
[18:58] <cyberanger> and if the X server goes down, the program can too
[18:58] <cyberanger> most will at least
[19:01] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: same is true for local access at the desktop
[19:01] <pace_t_zulu> if the xserver goes down
[19:03] <cyberanger> yep, so chibihogoshino the screen method won't work then
[19:04] <chibihogoshino> hmm..
[19:13] <pace_t_zulu> right because you are creating the display for the xserver when you connect
[20:53] <chibihogoshino> hmm..
[20:53] <chibihogoshino> didnt know that apt-get has tab completion
[22:55] <wrst> hello starsprout
[22:55] <cyberanger> hey starsprout
[22:57] <starsprout> hi guys! happy holi-days!
[22:57] <cyberanger> you too
[22:57] <starsprout> I finally registered my _true_ identity :-)
[22:58] <starsprout> starspot is dead
[23:00] <wrst> i am saddened at is passing starsprout
[23:00] <wrst> why hello infocop411
[23:00] <wrst> speaking of other identities
[23:01] <infocop411> hehe