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Kilosmorning superfly inetpro nuvolari and everyone else04:49
inetproKilos: good morning07:45
inetproKilos: are you surviving on this last day of 2010?07:46
Kiloslo pro07:57
Kiloseish07:57
Kiloslo inetpro 07:57
Kiloslol. just. Debs and I met tonight 25 years ago07:59
Kilosbut i be fighting my 80g drive the mbr is corrupt or gone?07:59
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Kilosanyone here can help me to install .tar or .rpm files please11:35
Kilosi found a way to rewrite my mbr but cant find the files with cli so i can install them11:35
Kilosor repair11:36
Kilosi have them in downloads and on desktop but cant get sudo to find them11:36
Kilosthis is the command i used11:37
Kilossudo alien package_file.rpm11:37
Kilossudo alien seatoolsenterprise.i386.rpm11:38
Kiloswhat did i leavge out11:38
Kilosleave11:38
superflyKilos: firstly, why are you trying to install .tar or .rpm files?11:39
Kilosbecause that sight doesnt have them in .deb superfly 11:39
Kilossite11:39
superflyKilos: which site is that?11:39
Kilossec i find it11:39
Kiloshttp://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?locale=en-GB&name=SeaTools:_Enterprise_Edition&vgnextoid=58d500bc350ce010VgnVCM100000dd04090aRCRD11:40
Kiloswhew thats a long one hey11:40
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superflywhy do you need that?11:42
Kilosmy harddrives mbr has crashed11:42
superflyso what does that tool have to do with it?11:43
Kilosit is supposed to be able to repair or reinstall mbr11:49
Tonberryhow on earth did you break an mbr?11:50
Kilossorry i took so long i dont have any indicators working here on 9.0411:50
KilosTonberry,  not me11:50
Kilosdid it all on its own11:50
Kilosbut googling finds lotsa peeps had same probs11:51
Tonberryand now grub won't start?11:51
Kilosyip11:51
Kilosbeen trying for 4 days now11:52
Kilosor more. i forget11:52
Tonberryhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows11:53
Kiloshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RPM/AlienHowto11:54
Tonberrytry that method for installing a grub mbr11:54
Kilosi will look . this is what i found but i dunno where to find the files11:54
Kilosok ty will do that now. see ya all later11:54
Kiloshold thumbs for me please11:55
Tonberrya random seagate tool is very unlikely to be able to fix grub...11:55
Kilosthat was part of the boast11:55
superflyKilos: don't use random tools, use the Ubuntu tools11:55
Kilosok will do 11:56
superflyKilos: if your horse is sick, are you going to get a doctor or a vet to look at him?11:57
Kiloshehe11:57
Kilosi be the vet11:58
superflyKilos: right, so the same with your boot sector, are you going to get some Seagate tool to fix grub, or are you going to get grub to fix itself?11:58
Kilosi have google lots superfly and some of the info was from ubuntu but it didnt work here because i make mistakes in cli i suppose11:59
Kilosits the mbr not grub12:00
Kiloscant boot with anything ebvn dos stiffies12:00
Kiloseven12:00
Kilosand i didnt have windows near here before the crash12:01
Kiloswas just starting to enjoy maverick12:01
superflyKilos: the MBR is the Master Boot Record, which lives in the first sector of your hard drive. if you can't boot with a stiffy, that's not your MBR12:01
Kilosoh sorry i can boot from them but not install dos even12:01
superflycan you boot of an Ubuntu CD?12:02
Tonberryare you certain the entire drive is not dead?12:02
superfly*off12:02
superflyTonberry: yeah, that's what I suspect... the MBR doesn't die by itself, it's either all or nothing12:02
Tonberryor very very very very random kernel bug....12:03
Kiloshalf the time it doesnt boot from the ubuntu cds12:12
Kilossays ubi.partman 12:12
Kilosum12:12
Kiloscant find ubi.partman12:12
Kilosit has actually installed twice in the last few days but soon after updating crashed again12:13
Tonberryi vote hardware failure12:14
Kilosubuntu actually gave a report once or twice that mbr was corrupt or missing12:14
Kilosbut i will keep trying12:14
Kilosty for the help guys12:14
superflyKilos: your hard drive is dead, you need a new one12:19
Kiloseish12:20
Kilosdont say that superfly  its my newest one12:20
Kilosthe one i am using now is much older12:20
Tonberrycould also be the motherboard if booting from a live cd is a problem12:20
Tonberryor the dvd/cdrom drive12:21
Kiloscd12:21
superflyKilos: when did you get it?12:21
Kilos3 years ago 12:22
superflyhrm, your warranty has probably already expired12:22
Kiloslol yeah12:22
Kilosmaxtor give a 1 year warranty12:22
superflyah, I think seagate or one of the others gives a 3 year warranty12:23
Kilosi keep trying guys. be good till im back ok??12:24
Kilosthanks again for the help12:24
drubinHappy new year peoples. 12:59
drubinbye12:59
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KilosMaaz, coffee on20:09
* Maaz washes some mugs20:09
superflyevening Kilos20:09
Kiloshi superfly 20:09
Kilosweird things here20:10
Kilosfixed mbr with windows 98 cd and then installed 9820:10
Kilosthen win me20:10
Kilosthen xp20:10
Kilosthen tried ubuntu20:10
Kiloseish20:10
charlvnsheesh, that's pretty hectic20:11
Kilosyip really weird20:11
Kilosit just refuses to accept any of my ubuntus20:12
superflyKilos: how do you mean?20:12
Kilosubuntu cds boot and then there lotsa errors when trying to install20:13
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!20:13
Kilos9.04 gets the furthest20:13
KilosMaaz, dankie20:13
MaazGroot plesier Kilos my vriend20:13
superflyKilos: what errors?20:15
Kiloshard to member but lots20:15
Kilosum20:15
Kilossomething with partman20:15
Kilosand lotsa other stuff like gdm not starting etc20:16
superflyKilos: in order to solve your problem you need to know the first 5 (at least) error messages20:17
Kilosthey flash past so fast i dont get to read them all superfly 20:18
Kilosand i dunno how to slow the thing down so i can write them down20:20
superflyKilos: I think there's an install log screen in the text-based installer, Ctrl+F1020:23
Kilosat what stage do you go control +f1220:28
superflyKilos: any time, I think20:37
Kilosok ty superfly  i will try that20:38
Kilosfp22:00
Kiloshappy new year to all of you22:00
nuvimobfp22:01
nuvimob?22:01
nuvimobor did i not make it in time? :-P22:01
superflyweee! happy new year!22:02
Kiloslol22:03
Kiloshappy happy you guys22:03
KilosMaaz, happy new year22:07
MaazThanks Kilos my friend and all the best to you and family22:07
Kilosnoght all . sleep tight22:08
Kilosnight22:08
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