[04:49] <Kilos> morning superfly inetpro nuvolari and everyone else
[07:45] <inetpro> Kilos: good morning
[07:46] <inetpro> Kilos: are you surviving on this last day of 2010?
[07:57] <Kilos> lo pro
[07:57] <Kilos> eish
[07:57] <Kilos> lo inetpro 
[07:59] <Kilos> lol. just. Debs and I met tonight 25 years ago
[07:59] <Kilos> but i be fighting my 80g drive the mbr is corrupt or gone?
[11:35] <Kilos> anyone here can help me to install .tar or .rpm files please
[11:35] <Kilos> i found a way to rewrite my mbr but cant find the files with cli so i can install them
[11:36] <Kilos> or repair
[11:36] <Kilos> i have them in downloads and on desktop but cant get sudo to find them
[11:37] <Kilos> this is the command i used
[11:37] <Kilos> sudo alien package_file.rpm
[11:38] <Kilos> sudo alien seatoolsenterprise.i386.rpm
[11:38] <Kilos> what did i leavge out
[11:38] <Kilos> leave
[11:39] <superfly> Kilos: firstly, why are you trying to install .tar or .rpm files?
[11:39] <Kilos> because that sight doesnt have them in .deb superfly 
[11:39] <Kilos> site
[11:39] <superfly> Kilos: which site is that?
[11:39] <Kilos> sec i find it
[11:40] <Kilos> http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?locale=en-GB&name=SeaTools:_Enterprise_Edition&vgnextoid=58d500bc350ce010VgnVCM100000dd04090aRCRD
[11:40] <Kilos> whew thats a long one hey
[11:42] <superfly> why do you need that?
[11:42] <Kilos> my harddrives mbr has crashed
[11:43] <superfly> so what does that tool have to do with it?
[11:49] <Kilos> it is supposed to be able to repair or reinstall mbr
[11:50] <Tonberry> how on earth did you break an mbr?
[11:50] <Kilos> sorry i took so long i dont have any indicators working here on 9.04
[11:50] <Kilos> Tonberry,  not me
[11:50] <Kilos> did it all on its own
[11:51] <Kilos> but googling finds lotsa peeps had same probs
[11:51] <Tonberry> and now grub won't start?
[11:51] <Kilos> yip
[11:52] <Kilos> been trying for 4 days now
[11:52] <Kilos> or more. i forget
[11:53] <Tonberry> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:54] <Kilos> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RPM/AlienHowto
[11:54] <Tonberry> try that method for installing a grub mbr
[11:54] <Kilos> i will look . this is what i found but i dunno where to find the files
[11:54] <Kilos> ok ty will do that now. see ya all later
[11:55] <Kilos> hold thumbs for me please
[11:55] <Tonberry> a random seagate tool is very unlikely to be able to fix grub...
[11:55] <Kilos> that was part of the boast
[11:55] <superfly> Kilos: don't use random tools, use the Ubuntu tools
[11:56] <Kilos> ok will do 
[11:57] <superfly> Kilos: if your horse is sick, are you going to get a doctor or a vet to look at him?
[11:57] <Kilos> hehe
[11:58] <Kilos> i be the vet
[11:58] <superfly> Kilos: right, so the same with your boot sector, are you going to get some Seagate tool to fix grub, or are you going to get grub to fix itself?
[11:59] <Kilos> i have google lots superfly and some of the info was from ubuntu but it didnt work here because i make mistakes in cli i suppose
[12:00] <Kilos> its the mbr not grub
[12:00] <Kilos> cant boot with anything ebvn dos stiffies
[12:00] <Kilos> even
[12:01] <Kilos> and i didnt have windows near here before the crash
[12:01] <Kilos> was just starting to enjoy maverick
[12:01] <superfly> Kilos: the MBR is the Master Boot Record, which lives in the first sector of your hard drive. if you can't boot with a stiffy, that's not your MBR
[12:01] <Kilos> oh sorry i can boot from them but not install dos even
[12:02] <superfly> can you boot of an Ubuntu CD?
[12:02] <Tonberry> are you certain the entire drive is not dead?
[12:02] <superfly> *off
[12:02] <superfly> Tonberry: yeah, that's what I suspect... the MBR doesn't die by itself, it's either all or nothing
[12:03] <Tonberry> or very very very very random kernel bug....
[12:12] <Kilos> half the time it doesnt boot from the ubuntu cds
[12:12] <Kilos> says ubi.partman 
[12:12] <Kilos> um
[12:12] <Kilos> cant find ubi.partman
[12:13] <Kilos> it has actually installed twice in the last few days but soon after updating crashed again
[12:14] <Tonberry> i vote hardware failure
[12:14] <Kilos> ubuntu actually gave a report once or twice that mbr was corrupt or missing
[12:14] <Kilos> but i will keep trying
[12:14] <Kilos> ty for the help guys
[12:19] <superfly> Kilos: your hard drive is dead, you need a new one
[12:20] <Kilos> eish
[12:20] <Kilos> dont say that superfly  its my newest one
[12:20] <Kilos> the one i am using now is much older
[12:20] <Tonberry> could also be the motherboard if booting from a live cd is a problem
[12:21] <Tonberry> or the dvd/cdrom drive
[12:21] <Kilos> cd
[12:21] <superfly> Kilos: when did you get it?
[12:22] <Kilos> 3 years ago 
[12:22] <superfly> hrm, your warranty has probably already expired
[12:22] <Kilos> lol yeah
[12:22] <Kilos> maxtor give a 1 year warranty
[12:23] <superfly> ah, I think seagate or one of the others gives a 3 year warranty
[12:24] <Kilos> i keep trying guys. be good till im back ok??
[12:24] <Kilos> thanks again for the help
[12:59] <drubin> Happy new year peoples. 
[12:59] <drubin> bye
[20:09] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[20:09]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[20:09] <superfly> evening Kilos
[20:09] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[20:10] <Kilos> weird things here
[20:10] <Kilos> fixed mbr with windows 98 cd and then installed 98
[20:10] <Kilos> then win me
[20:10] <Kilos> then xp
[20:10] <Kilos> then tried ubuntu
[20:10] <Kilos> eish
[20:11] <charlvn> sheesh, that's pretty hectic
[20:11] <Kilos> yip really weird
[20:12] <Kilos> it just refuses to accept any of my ubuntus
[20:12] <superfly> Kilos: how do you mean?
[20:13] <Kilos> ubuntu cds boot and then there lotsa errors when trying to install
[20:13] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[20:13] <Kilos> 9.04 gets the furthest
[20:13] <Kilos> Maaz, dankie
[20:13] <Maaz> Groot plesier Kilos my vriend
[20:15] <superfly> Kilos: what errors?
[20:15] <Kilos> hard to member but lots
[20:15] <Kilos> um
[20:15] <Kilos> something with partman
[20:16] <Kilos> and lotsa other stuff like gdm not starting etc
[20:17] <superfly> Kilos: in order to solve your problem you need to know the first 5 (at least) error messages
[20:18] <Kilos> they flash past so fast i dont get to read them all superfly 
[20:20] <Kilos> and i dunno how to slow the thing down so i can write them down
[20:23] <superfly> Kilos: I think there's an install log screen in the text-based installer, Ctrl+F10
[20:28] <Kilos> at what stage do you go control +f12
[20:37] <superfly> Kilos: any time, I think
[20:38] <Kilos> ok ty superfly  i will try that
[22:00] <Kilos> fp
[22:00] <Kilos> happy new year to all of you
[22:01] <nuvimob> fp
[22:01] <nuvimob> ?
[22:01] <nuvimob> or did i not make it in time? :-P
[22:02] <superfly> weee! happy new year!
[22:03] <Kilos> lol
[22:03] <Kilos> happy happy you guys
[22:07] <Kilos> Maaz, happy new year
[22:07] <Maaz> Thanks Kilos my friend and all the best to you and family
[22:08] <Kilos> noght all . sleep tight
[22:08] <Kilos> night