[00:00] <GeekSquid> ActionParsnip: meco: if desktop version... no longer supported see !eol
[00:00] <GeekSquid> !eol | meco
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> GeekSquid: it is, until April 2011
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> meco: then run:  sudo sh -c 'echo "deb http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu hardy-getdeb games" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/getdeb.list'
[00:00] <GeekSquid> ActionParsnip: whoops, I got my dates messed up
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> GeekSquid: np man ;)
[00:01] <shawn146|ubuntu> still can't get into drive
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> meco: it may not support hardy, its an unofficial repo so its up to them which release they support
[00:01] <shawn146|ubuntu> i can goa s far as /media/os
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> shawn146|ubuntu: its a partition, not a drive
[00:02] <p_res> shawn146|ubuntu: Did you try with Nautilus?
[00:02] <shawn146|ubuntu> yes
[00:02] <shawn146|ubuntu> i can with no problem
[00:02] <shawn146|ubuntu> but i need CLI it says
[00:02] <p_res> shawn146|ubuntu: So what's the problem?
[00:02] <shawn146|ubuntu> for the permissions
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> shawn146|ubuntu: can you give a pastebin of the output of:   mount     thanks
[00:02] <navatwo> So I am having issues installing the UNR on my new netbook. I have the flash drive created but when I boot off it, it asks for my language, I pick install then it goes to a blank screen with the white cursor flashing. :(
[00:02] <GeekSquid> shawn146|ubuntu: gksudo nautilus /media
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> navatwo: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[00:02] <p_res> shawn146|ubuntu: If you launch Nautilus with gksu you have root access as it is.
[00:02] <meco> I'm not sure what someone just tried to explain to me...
[00:02] <onlyplayragz> guys you think it s  a good idea to upgrade a live server via command line?
[00:03] <Danielc1234_> hi all just installed ftp apt-get install vsftpd, but when using cuteftp, I can browse and see files/folders, but will not let me edit, copy or paste. Permissions, however I am logging in as my user with full permissions. Any ideas?
[00:03] <navatwo> ActionParsnip: yes
[00:03] <shawn146|ubuntu> http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/6613/screenshot1ns.png
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> onlyplayragz: sure, if its beneficial
[00:03] <onlyplayragz> i mean
[00:03] <onlyplayragz> dist upgrade
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> navatwo: www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html
[00:03] <onlyplayragz> from hardy to maverik
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> onlyplayragz: you can upgrade from hardy to Lucid, then to maverick
[00:04] <GeekSquid> shawn146|ubuntu: case sensitivity cd /media/OS/windows
[00:04] <onlyplayragz> ok
[00:04] <shawn146|ubuntu> os
[00:04] <onlyplayragz> seems risky though
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> onlyplayragz: personally I recommend keeping servers in the LTS
[00:04] <onlyplayragz> yep
[00:04] <GeekSquid> shawn146|ubuntu: OS
[00:04] <p_res> onlyplayragz: Why not leave Hardy on it.
[00:04] <p_res> ?
[00:04] <Guest92214> Hi all! i got a Problem: i want to use mp3blaster; in order to add files in mp3blaster. i need to press F!; but when i press F1 GNOME Terminal Manuel opens up and mp3blaster does not get the input... any suggestions on how to solve that issue?!
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> onlyplayragz: installing regular updates is equally risky
[00:04] <onlyplayragz> i m just asking
[00:04] <shawn146|ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:/media/OS$ cd /media/OS/windows
[00:04] <shawn146|ubuntu> bash: cd: /media/OS/windows: No such file or directory
[00:05] <meco> I'm typing 'urban' in the Synaptic search field, and I only get to hits: 'gramofile' and 'gzrt'
[00:05] <GeekSquid> shawn146|ubuntu: type ls
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> p_res: lucid is supported longer
[00:05] <onlyplayragz> i tried on a test server and it screwed everything ;)
[00:05] <p_res> ActionParsnip: But he wants Maverick?
[00:05] <p_res> shawn146|ubuntu: It
[00:05] <shawn146|ubuntu> oh
[00:05] <p_res> shawn146|ubuntu: Are you using tab completion?
[00:05] <navatwo> ActionParsnip: its a netbook, thus has no separate gpu. It does not load the installer
[00:06] <shawn146|ubuntu> ls lists the folders and files?
[00:06] <GeekSquid> shawn146|ubuntu: do you see windows there?
[00:06] <dannyLopez> how cai i see the manager of the sound?
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> navatwo: the guide shows how to add the nomodeset option you need
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> meco: http://www.urbanterror.info/docs/texts/110/   has a normal lazy download you can use
[00:06] <p_res> shawn146|ubuntu: You must have your commadn wrong somewhere.
[00:06] <p_res> command
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> p_res: true, but i advised lucid ;)
[00:06] <The_Rufus> THAT'S IT, i'm installing the OS for a 4TH time
[00:06] <shawn146|ubuntu> i got in
[00:06] <shawn146|ubuntu> ls helps thanks
[00:07] <p_res> ActionParsnip: Well that's would be better than Maverick for a server.
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> p_res: totally
[00:07] <p_res> shawn146|ubuntu: Well done!
[00:07] <dannyLopez> how can i see the manager of the sound?
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> !sound | dannyLopez
[00:07] <p_res> dannyLopez: Little sound icon in gnome-panel.
[00:07] <shawn146|ubuntu> i can't get into System32
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> shawn146|ubuntu: linux is VERY case sensitive, so if it's SYSTEM32, it is different to System32
[00:08] <shawn146|ubuntu> it says System32 in the ls
[00:08] <GeekSquid> shawn146|ubuntu: try cd Sy"TABkey"
[00:08] <shawn146|ubuntu> but when i type in ls System32 it says no such file or directory
[00:08] <shawn146|ubuntu> oh
[00:08] <dannyLopez> ActionParsnip: but i need know if the maneger is alsa o pulse
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> dannyLopez: in a default Ubuntu, it's pulse
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> shawn146|ubuntu: use tab to complete
[00:09] <p_res> dannyLopez: Unless you changed it, it's Pulse.
[00:09] <peytoniumnitrate> anyone here use irssi?
[00:09] <Guest92214> peytoniumnitrate: me
[00:09] <p_res> peytoniumnitrate: Nope.
[00:09] <dannyLopez> ok TKS
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> peytoniumnitrate: sometimes
[00:09] <p_res> dannyLopez: ;-)
[00:09] <soreau> peytoniumnitrate: #irssi
[00:09] <peytoniumnitrate> i downloaded a theme how do i apply it?
[00:09] <shawn146|ubuntu> I am getting /s System\ Volume\ Information/
[00:10] <dannyLopez> p_res: what is the better? alsa or pulse?
[00:10] <p_res> dannyLopez: I prefer Pulse.
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> peytoniumnitrate: right click desktop -> change background image, themes tab
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> dannyLopez: they are just different, neither is outright better
[00:10] <p_res> dannyLopez: I use it with 4.0 audio adn it's great.
[00:10] <GeekSquid> shawn146|ubuntu: seems like you still need to get into the windows directory before you can get to system32
[00:10] <p_res> and
[00:10] <shawn146|ubuntu> i am in Windows
[00:11] <GeekSquid> shawn146|ubuntu: screenshot after fullscreen ls
[00:11] <kn100> peytoniumnitrate, where did you get this theme from?
[00:11] <Supertanker> Hmm, while I'm here, here's an odd problem: Every once in awhile, OpenOffice will take a *VERY* long time to start--the progress bar on the splash screen reaches 100% but it sits there, two-five minutes or so, then finally pops up my document. But if I open subsequent documents they open right up
[00:11] <Supertanker> Any idea what this is?
[00:11] <peytoniumnitrate> i got it from irssi site
[00:11] <Supertanker> Killing one of the soffice processes (forgot which, sorry) mwhile the splash screen is stuck has it pop up immediately with my document
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> Supertanker: http://www.zolved.com/synapse/view_content/28209/How_to_make_OpenOffice_run_faster_in_Ubuntu
[00:11] <kn100> peytoniumnitrate, are you sure it's an ubuntu theme then?
[00:12] <NFsiher> peytoniumnitrate: sorry never used any skins
[00:12] <peytoniumnitrate> no its a irssi theme
[00:12] <shawn146|ubuntu> http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/420/screenshot2nm.png
[00:12] <IdleOne> peytoniumnitrate: #irssi can help you with irssi themes
[00:12] <XiaolinDraconis> Jordan_U, got time for a nother question?
[00:12] <aimio> omg i'm going crazy, so simple but yet so damn hard i have no idea why it's not working.. (damn headphone jack)..
[00:12] <peytoniumnitrate> ok
[00:12] <DrEdD^^> hi guys
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> Supertanker: can help, the thing making mot difference is stopping the java stuff
[00:12] <quidnunc> How do I get progress indication when doing automatically-triggered fsck on boot?
[00:12] <pirac> can anyone help me with hp dv4-1125nr mic not working?
[00:12] <DrEdD^^> can somebody please try http://87.7.51.244:5800/
[00:12] <shawn146|ubuntu> wow the channel floods fast
[00:12] <DrEdD^^>  its my vnc server i have problem setting my router from outisde and can't try it alone :)
[00:12] <pirac> can anyone help me with hp dv4-1125nr mic not working? 10.10
[00:12] <kn100> Holy...It's unbelievable in here
[00:12] <jkoch> !vesa
[00:12] <DrEdD^^> tell me if you get answer
[00:13] <jkoch> !x
[00:13] <shawnboy> My "Open With" context menu no longer shows "Other". How do I associate certain files with a particular other application?
[00:13] <KM0201> pirac: well, do you know what your sound device is?
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> kn100: it is the official channel of the fastest growing Linux distro....what did you expect
[00:13] <NFsiher> peytoniumnitrate: sorry never used any skins
[00:13] <NFsiher> Hi all! i got a Problem: i want to use mp3blaster; in order to add files in mp3blaster. i need to press F!; but when i press F1 GNOME Terminal Manuel opens up and mp3blaster does not get the input... any suggestions on how to solve that issue?!
[00:13] <jkoch> How can I tell if my computer is using vesa or picking up my intel video driver?
[00:13] <adrian_kx> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[00:14] <adrian_kx> anyone managed to fix this error
[00:14] <kn100> ActionParsnip, there's _got_ to be a better way of providing support over irc than this
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> jkoch: sudo lshw -C display     and read
[00:14] <shawn146|ubuntu> http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/420/screenshot2nm.png
[00:14] <Supertanker> ActionParsnip, thanks, I'll take a look at that. It does it in Windows too sometimes, funnily enough
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> kn100: its worked pretty well for the last 4 years I've used ubuntu and the 10 I've used Linux
[00:15] <jkoch> ActionParsnip: it says "PCI (sysfs)"
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> kn100: there is also the ubuntu forums and launchpad where you can post questions
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> jkoch: give it time
[00:15] <GeekSquid> DrEdD^^: that works ... RealVNC Server running, waiting for password ... but the applet loads
[00:15] <XiaolinDraconis> some of you may remember i am making a usb emergency boot stick
[00:15] <kn100> I know, it's just insane how fast irc is scrolling ActionParsnip heh
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> kn100: you'll learn how to read it
[00:15] <DrEdD^^>  GeekSquid thank you very much
[00:15] <DrEdD^^> !!!
[00:15] <pirac> KM0201 no im not actually sure, how do i check?
[00:15] <shawn146|ubuntu> i gave you the fullscreen thingy you asked for
[00:15] <p_res> shawn146|ubuntu: Perhaps Windows hides the directory for some reason?
[00:15] <XiaolinDraconis> i installed grub2 and tiny core a an fat16 partition and it went without a hitch
[00:15] <KM0201> pirac: it should be listed in lspci
[00:15] <shawn146|ubuntu> oh
[00:16] <Starcraftmazter> hello, i've just disabled my ati prop. driver due to problems with dual head displays, and how it doesnt show up in hardware drivers. What could be the reason for this?
[00:16] <jkoch> ActionParsnip: it shows that it is the intel driver, but my video is still a bit laggy to the point where i can't even watch a video on youtube
[00:16] <kn100> ActionParsnip, I've always thought a very basic yahoo answers type system would be a good way of providing support
[00:16] <XiaolinDraconis> however i started over and reformatted to ext4 and now grub tells me to load the kernel first
[00:16] <nit-wit> XiaolinDraconis, to boot what I just logged on.
[00:16] <shawn146|ubuntu> i can get into the folder with nautilus
[00:16] <p_res> shawn146|ubuntu: I don't use W7 so I dunno. I always preferred XP because there's no hiding business.
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> jkoch: you may need an xorg.conf file to define better settings, if you websearch the product line you will find guides
[00:16] <shawn146|ubuntu> oh
[00:16] <kn100> There's an idea for something for me to develop.
[00:16] <The_Rufus> OK, WTF? It seems I can't have more than 4 partitions in my RAID array
[00:16] <langvann> rooks: have you ever experienced serious lag?
[00:16] <XiaolinDraconis> nit-wit, ur on TC?
[00:16] <shawnboy> Caon anyone point me in direction for file associations?
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> kn100: thats how the launchpad questions work
[00:16] <The_Rufus> anyone aware of such a limitiation?
[00:16] <jkoch> ActionParsnip: kk. thank you for your help
[00:17] <IdleOne> kn100: a good thing to do in a channel this large with so much text going by is not to add more unnecessarily
[00:17] <shawn146|ubuntu> it shouldn't be hidden, nautilus allows me to get in
[00:17] <p_res> I have to go. Good luck shawn146|ubuntu
[00:17] <aeon-ltd> The_Rufus: primary?
[00:17] <GeekSquid> shawn146|ubuntu: you arnt in windows you did "ls Windows" now do cd Windows then cd Sys....
[00:17] <KM0201> shawn146: system/pref/preferred apps
[00:17] <kn100> IdleOne, heh, probably, last thing I'm going to say is ActionParsnip but launchpad is horribly user unfriendly
[00:17] <nit-wit> XiaolinDraconis, TC?
[00:17] <shawn146|ubuntu> ohh! lol
[00:17] <XiaolinDraconis> nit-wit, tiny core
[00:17] <pirac> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller
[00:17] <langvann> rooks: Not sure why, but somethings it seems like everything just hangs for a while, and i have extreme lag for like, a minute or so. and then everything starts working again.
[00:17] <Guest90396> Hi. I keep all my photos on an external USB hard-drive that I take with me from computer to computer. Can Shotwell manage to use drive even if it is USB and external without me having to tell Shotwell about it each time/
[00:17] <The_Rufus> aeon-ltd: primary what?
[00:17] <XiaolinDraconis> nit-wit, you meant usb?
[00:17] <shawn146|ubuntu> wow
[00:17] <aeon-ltd> The_Rufus: primary partitions?
[00:18] <The_Rufus> ummm
[00:18] <The_Rufus> not sure how that would work in a raid array
[00:18] <KM0201> pirac: and what doesn't work? i have that on my laptop, and it works fine
[00:18] <shawn146|ubuntu> how do i do number 7? http://twitteling.com/2010/06/reset-windows-7-passwords-with-linux-ubuntu/
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> kn100: i'd say not, look at the karma awarded by users whom have recieved help: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+topcontributors
[00:18] <shawn146|ubuntu> err step 7
[00:18] <shawnboy> Wow, super busy tonight. I'll relieve some pressure by leaving.
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> kn100: how is the forum any different to yahoo answers?
[00:19] <nit-wit> XiaolinDraconis, I saw that after  posted, so grub2 is not booting TC
[00:19] <pirac> the mic isnt picking up any volume and or its not showing an input device
[00:19] <kn100> ActionParsnip, I did not say yahoo answers exactly
[00:19] <p_res> shawn146|ubuntu: You get my PM?
[00:19] <soreau> pirac: Try running alsamixer in a terminal?
[00:19] <XiaolinDraconis> nit-wit, it did a lil bit ago but i was on fat16 part
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> kn100: either way, suppport is rolling nicely for everyone else
[00:19] <shawn146|ubuntu> ah yes p_res
[00:20] <KM0201> pirac: go to system/pref/sound and click the "Input Tab"  Try changing optinos in "Connector" and see if you can get the mic to register.
[00:20] <p_res> shawn146|ubuntu: Cheers mate. ;-)
[00:20] <kn100> ActionParsnip, What I envision is a very basic page with something along the lines of "So you're having a Ubuntu problem, please describe it below" <textbox> <submit button> - user then sent to an ajax page that essentially loads solutions as people answer the question, and on the other side is a searchable page that anyone else can go to and answer these questions
[00:20] <rooks> langvann, check dmesg, see if there are some anomalies such as setting interface up and down on its own, it might be result of bad cable
[00:20] <shawn146|ubuntu> but what for?
[00:20] <rooks> langvann, or loose ethernet plug
[00:21] <pirac> i think i may have it, but going to reboot, brb
[00:21] <nit-wit> XiaolinDraconis, does TC come with gru2 or grub-legacy, is it a full install or the thumb loaded
[00:22] <nit-wit> ISO loaded
[00:22] <GeekSquid> shawn146|ubuntu: there really is a better way to access and edit SAM... use this http://www.pogostick.net/~pnh/ntpasswd/
[00:22] <The_Rufus> how the hell can I create an extended partition in a raid array?
[00:22] <shcherbak> kn100: you mean more readable launchpad?
[00:22] <langvann> rooks: Dec 31 01:03:46 langvann-desktop pulseaudio[1668]: ratelimit.c: 1 events suppressed
[00:22] <langvann> Only thing i could find
[00:22] <shawn146|ubuntu> ok i did chntpw -l SAM
[00:22] <shawn146|ubuntu> what do i do next?
[00:22] <kn100> shcherbak, more readable, much simpler, not as scary looking, and cross project
[00:22] <langvann> probably a result of the music having issues playing
[00:23] <kn100> shcherbak, would probably tie it in to the ubuntu one accounts if that's possible
[00:23] <langvann> rooks: I'm gonna go buy a new ethernet card. The one i have I suspect is broken.
[00:23] <XiaolinDraconis> nit-wit, i extracted the zip file and made my own grub.cfg
[00:23] <kn100> shcherbak, and it would be the kind of thing that's linked in the 'help' menu of programs, just a 1 purpose system for getting support for anything
[00:23] <nawkwan> So I'm about to create a USB drive using the Universal USB Installer as described on the official Ubuntu websiute
[00:23] <rooks> langvann, could be, for my setup i got two gigabit intel cards since my motherboards dont work well
[00:24] <XiaolinDraconis> nit-wit, i sudo installed grub then extracted the iso and made a menu entry for it
[00:24] <nit-wit> XiaolinDraconis, you might try the bootscript to look at it
[00:24] <kn100> shcherbak, also we could build up a large db of questions and answers and compare every question asked to that db and try to provide automated answers based on that
[00:24] <langvann> rooks: Two? for load balancing?
[00:24] <XiaolinDraconis> nit-wit, bootscript?
[00:24] <rooks> langvann, but i think dmesg would be full of warrnings if its the cards, maybe you have something with cable, like its bend too hard
[00:25] <nawkwan> So when I further read about Persistence on http://www.pendrivelinux.com/what-is-persistent-linux/
[00:25] <rooks> langvann, one for server, one for desktop, i did such setup like in 2006 when such things were new, and gigabit switches were $$$$$
[00:25] <shaggy3> I have a simple question, I have spent weeks setting up my server, now that everything is working on it, I am wanting to create a image of the HDD and burn it to CD/DVD (depending what is needed) is there a way I can do this in ubuntu 10.10 server?
[00:25] <nawkwan> It says that "Typically a separate Persistent storage space (persistent overlay) is used in conjunction with a compressed Live Linux OS."
[00:25] <nit-wit> XiaolinDraconis, it is for install mainly but it will tell you where the mbr is looking etc.http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[00:25] <grendal_prime> anyone ever set up squid to auth against radius?
[00:26] <kn100> shaggy3, http://packratstudios.com/index.php/2008/04/20/how-to-setup-clonezilla-on-linux-ubuntu-quick-start-guide/
[00:26] <shawn146|ubuntu> ok how do i untar a .tar.bz2 to a diff partition
[00:26] <shawn146|ubuntu> mesk something?
[00:26] <shaggy3> kn100: thank you
[00:27] <kn100> shaggy3, not sure how well that would work exactly but it looks like what you want
[00:27] <nit-wit> XiaolinDraconis,  would do a full install of puppy linux it would be much easier and is grub2
[00:27] <XiaolinDraconis> nit-wit, its a 512MB stick space is needed
[00:27] <XiaolinDraconis> nit-wit, i know puppy is only 100mb but tc is 10x smaller
[00:28] <nit-wit> XiaolinDraconis, I understand puppy only 128MIB
[00:28] <shawn146|ubuntu> -_-
[00:28] <kn100> shaggy3, http://geekyprojects.com/cloning/setup-a-clonezilla-server-on-ubuntu/ < seems more up to date
[00:28] <mitzed> hi all  can anyone giveme a hand
[00:28] <nawkwan> Just curious, does it mean the the user changes are in actuality kept separate?
[00:28] <mitzed> how can i run  a program like vpnc and others  automatically at startup with a desktop user account non in a admin account
[00:28] <XiaolinDraconis> nit-wit, crap i gotta get off the pc been here for 6 hrs someone else needs a run at it
[00:29] <nawkwan> if you're nice enough, please pm me with the answer/insights on this
[00:29] <nawkwan> thanks
[00:30] <mitzed> none?
[00:32] <Jameswstubbs> Hello
[00:32] <mitzed> hello
[00:32] <GeekSquid> mitzed: firstly , have patience .... secondly ... System>Preferences>Startup Applications
[00:34] <mitzed> i get something like this: you dont have privileges
[00:34] <Jameswstubbs> Does it ask you to enter a password?
[00:35] <mitzed> yes
[00:35] <Jameswstubbs> Are you entering the correct password for the current user?
[00:35] <aill> hi guys I am trying to remove a default /home partition my web host gave me, I just want it to be part of regular "/" could anyone tell me how to do this?
[00:35] <mitzed> but  when i put the correct  pass
[00:36] <mitzed> it promp me  with a message
[00:36] <smw> aill, why would you do that?
[00:36] <aill> because i find having 20 partitions eating up space silly and it will restrict me later im sure
[00:37] <mitzed> that this account user dont hve  sufficient privileges
[00:37] <Jameswstubbs> Aill would a symlink do? Ln /home / ?
[00:37] <smw> aill, for servers, it makes sense to separate stuff.
[00:37] <Gartral> aill, theres a HUGE security risk in making your /home at / are you absolutly SURE you want to do that?
[00:37] <smw> Gartral, he does not want too do that
[00:38] <Jameswstubbs> mitzed: You could try using root
[00:38] <smw> he wants it part of the / partition
[00:38] <Jameswstubbs> Password
[00:38] <shawn146|ubuntu> i think i may have done it
[00:38] <Jameswstubbs> Sudo passwd root
[00:38] <shawn146|ubuntu> using sudo chntpw SAM
[00:38] <smw> aill, I am just telling you it is a bad idea and pretty much impossible without direct access with a live cd
[00:38] <shawn146|ubuntu> and using 1 and y
[00:38] <matematikaadit> aill: you can use parted, gparted, fdisk
[00:39] <Jameswstubbs> Or sudo passwd user
[00:39] <bastidrazor> !noroot
[00:39] <Jameswstubbs> Oops
[00:39] <kn100> !root
[00:39] <Jameswstubbs> Rem
[00:39] <GeekSquid> aill: webhost? ... I think you are confused ... your /home/username partition on a webhost is where you store your data... everything else you don't have privlidges to write to
[00:39] <mitzed> jameswtubbs i hve the root account activated  how  can i do it in  the terminal?
[00:39] <aill> its a dedicated server
[00:39] <shawn146|ubuntu> how do you unzip a .tar.bz2 to a diff disk/partition?
[00:39] <shawn146|ubuntu> using sudo in terminal
[00:40] <Jameswstubbs> mitzed: Iv just been told off for discussing it :p
[00:41] <Jameswstubbs> shawn146 mount /dev/device /mnt/placetomount
[00:41] <smw> aill, you would need to use a live cd to do it
[00:41] <GeekSquid> aill: I don't see how putting /home on / does you any good, still confusing ... please explain exactly what you are trying to do.... /home and / are not partitions.. they are folders under the root
[00:41] <shawn146|ubuntu> ?
[00:41] <shawn146|ubuntu> its already mounted
[00:41] <shawn146|ubuntu> i have no problem with mounting
[00:41] <smw> aill, or do something far too difficult to make sense...
[00:41] <Jameswstubbs> Bzip -x nameofbzip
[00:41] <smw> aill, it is about as difficult as installing a new distro
[00:41] <rww> shawn146|ubuntu: cd /path/to/destination; sudo tar -jxf /path/to/file.tar.bz2
[00:42] <aill> there is /home mounted eating up 200GB, I dont want it, I want that space assigned to regular "/"
[00:42] <aill> but my idiot web host cant follow basic instructions
[00:42] <aill> and i cant be arsed waiting 24 hours for a fix
[00:42] <smw> aill, waiting 24 hours is the only method. Sorry
[00:42] <shawn146|ubuntu> like i want to extract icewm-image-Mongo-08.07.08.tar.bz2 to d84b
[00:42] <GeekSquid> aill: to do what you want... you'll need physical access to the machine, or you will have to have an idoit do the job
[00:44] <adstat> My Ubuntu is being Lame
[00:44] <shawn146|ubuntu> ?
[00:44] <adstat> Any ideas why Ubuntu 10.10 wont connect to Win 7 shared computer?
[00:45] <rww> adstat: Are you using 10.10 or 11.04?
[00:45] <adstat> 10.10
[00:45] <GeekSquid> shawn146|ubuntu: we really cannot support that kind of install.... again sudo apt-get install icewm  ...
[00:45] <adstat> i verified earlier
[00:45] <shawn146|ubuntu> um
[00:45] <shawn146|ubuntu> i don't want to isntall it in ubuntu
[00:46] <piercedwater> Can anyone help me with this error I am getting when trying to rsync from Mac OS X -> Ubuntu 10.10 USB Drive NTFS-3G? http://paste.ubuntu.com/548962/
[00:46] <shawn146|ubuntu> i need to untar it into the partition
[00:46] <adstat> But i was confused previously because when i go to "System - About Ubuntu" it says 11.04
[00:46] <shawn146|ubuntu> it is a linux distro itself
[00:46] <adstat> But i just cant' get this sharing to work
[00:48] <adstat> Joan Rivers is BACK!!
[00:48] <pixelated> adstat, wow, i was just talking to my wife about that issue of she thinking she has 11.04 on her laptop...
[00:49] <GeekSquid> piercedwater: filename convention ... Apple Talks Like This ..... Linux/ \Escapes/ \Like/ \This And\ Windows\ Escapes\ Like \This ..... and spaces in files are a problem between os's especially when working with NTFS ... if it was an ext3/4 drive you wouldn't have the problem
[00:50] <pixelated> adstat, also as to your problem of win7 and connecting, my wife had alot of problems connecting to my file/print server (running ubuntu) on her laptop (running 7), and she has decided to go back to using ubuntu again...
[00:50] <piercedwater> GeekSquid: So either I rename the files or I switch to ext3/4?
[00:50] <GeekSquid> piercedwater: yep
[00:50] <piercedwater> :(
[00:51] <GeekSquid> piercedwater: or use itunes home sharing to share the files across the machines
[00:51] <piercedwater> not terrible, but annoying none the less
[00:51] <piercedwater> nah, i have a different setup :P
[00:51] <piercedwater> thanks though, you saved me alot of pain lol
[00:52] <zhangxuekui> ggg
[00:52] <adstat> pixelated, my server is Win 7
[00:52] <zhangxuekui> mine is linux
[00:52] <pixelated> adstat, yeah i see that, we had the opposite problem, server being linux, client being 7...
[00:53] <shawn146|ubuntu> how do i get into filesystem d84b3300-f872-40dd-85f6-44a5e7be21cc from terminal?
[00:53] <pixelated> also had issues accessing the server in vista too, but XP has no problems...
[00:53] <pixelated> shawn146|ubuntu, is it mounted?
[00:53] <shawn146|ubuntu> yes
[00:53] <JamesWStubbs> Hello
[00:54] <shawn146|ubuntu> always mounted
[00:54] <pixelated> do you know where its mounted?
[00:54] <TWILisawesome> is it safe to have two apt-get installs running at the same time?
[00:54] <shawn146|ubuntu> no
[00:54] <shawn146|ubuntu> sda2?
[00:54] <shawn146|ubuntu> or sdd2
[00:54] <skorv> any ideas in how to solve the "the requested url couldnot be retrived" after squid
[00:54] <aeon-ltd> TWILisawesome: no, thats why a lock file is generated to prevent this
[00:54] <skorv> i'm out of ideas
[00:54] <TWILisawesome> ok
[00:54] <pixelated> shawn146|ubuntu, try 'blkid' it will show where your UUID's are mounted
[00:54] <TWILisawesome> thanks aeon-ltd
[00:55] <GeekSquid> TWILisawesome: we love TWIT!!!
[00:55] <TWILisawesome> yes you do, and so do I
[00:55] <JamesWStubbs> Whats Twit?
[00:56] <GeekSquid> This Week In Tech ... http://twit.tv
[00:56] <JamesWStubbs> Ahh
[00:56] <shawn146|ubuntu> its not doing anything
[00:56] <Jordan_U> sudo mount /dev/disk/by-uuid/d84b3300-f872-40dd-85f6-44a5e7be21cc /mnt/
[00:56] <Jordan_U> shawn146|ubuntu: ^^
[00:56] <Scutum> hello, Im trying to get my girlfriend to switch to linux, what would be the most recommendable user friendly easy to use version?
[00:56] <JamesWStubbs> Quick question, going to get an Dual core AMD processor tommorow, is there any foreseeable problems with it and Ubuntu/Linux Distros in general
[00:57] <shawn146|ubuntu> sudo mount /dev/disk/by-uuid/d84b3300-f872-40dd-85f6-44a5e7be21cc /mnt/
[00:57] <pixelated> Scutum, my wife uses ubuntu
[00:57] <shawn146|ubuntu> oops
[00:57] <shawn146|ubuntu> didn't copy
[00:57] <shawn146|ubuntu> mount: special device /dev/disk/by-uuid/d84b3300-f872-40dd-85f6-44a5e7be21cc does not exist
[00:57] <Scutum> pixelated, she like nice cute stuff would kubuntu be a better option?
[00:58] <GeekSquid> JamesWStubbs: I have 2 in front of me, and that question depends on a lot of things, but, you are just buying the processor, or a computer?
[00:58] <pixelated> Scutum, could be, kde has alot of sugary widgets last timei looked at it...
[00:58] <Jordan_U> shawn146|ubuntu: Then you probably don't have any device containing a filesystem with that UUID. Where did you get that UUID from?
[00:58] <shawn146|ubuntu> oh just had to replace f with 5
[00:58] <shawn146|ubuntu> on the id
[00:59] <JamesWStubbs> Scutum , I've been told PCLinuxOS is supposed to be easy to adjust to, but Ubuntu would also be nice
[00:59] <JamesWStubbs> GeekSquid I'm buying a laptop
[00:59] <JamesWStubbs> It includes the AMD64 and a ATI graphics card
[01:00] <KM0201> JamesWStubbs: it's all a matter of opinion, personally, I hate PCLOS
[01:00] <shawn146|ubuntu> studio 17?
[01:00] <GeekSquid> JamesWStubbs: I have 2 in front of me .... Reccommend Lenovo .... Compaq has problems
[01:00] <Gartral> I can't get ubuntu-one to syncronize with the cloud server, it says i have no internet connection
[01:00] <jkoch> How can I switch to the vesa video driver instead of the one that doesn't work right for my video card?
[01:00] <JamesWStubbs> KM0201 I havn't used it, just what I've been told, my first distro was Backtrack3, then I started using Debian as my everyday OS
[01:00] <Scutum> JamesWStubbs, u think kubuntu would be a better option?
[01:01] <JamesWStubbs> KDE is good, it's arguably pretty heavy, but It has a similar user experience to Windows in some respects
[01:01] <KM0201> JamesWStubbs: well.. it's easy to try a live CD i guess.. while I do think it's a halfway decent newb distro.. i hate it.
[01:01] <pixelated> Scutum, if you have room install both gnome and kde, and let her try both...
[01:01] <Scutum> ok
[01:02] <KM0201> JamesWStubbs: honestly, i'd rather use OpenSuse than PCLinuxOS.. but again, its all opinion
[01:02] <JamesWStubbs> KM0201 I've done a quick google search on it (as you do), It does have a E17 version available, might be worth having a look at
[01:02] <Scutum> pixelated, thanks
[01:02] <juniour> in dual boot can i use two oter version of ubuntu
[01:02] <JamesWStubbs> juniour yes
[01:03] <Gartral> I can't get ubuntu-one to syncronize with the cloud server, it says i have no internet connection
[01:03] <pixelated> juniour, yes but i wouldnt do this for having KDE and GNOME...
[01:04] <juniour> jamesWStubbs can i install both through wubi
[01:04] <JamesWStubbs> juniour I wouldn't think so, I believe wubi uses a virtual hard disk and uses MBR as it's bootloader
[01:05] <JamesWStubbs> jumbers But installing from DVD,using the installer application would take you through partitioning
[01:05] <judgepg> Hi Folks, can anyone tell me if its possible to install Ubuntu Server without an internet connection?  Seems like the installer is prompting to specify a network connection to grab the latest packages.
[01:05] <sharkoder> after lost /boot partition, i booted and chrooted from a live cd and installed grub2, linux and kernel, but i can't start anyway the system imo because of wrong resolution, i dunno. what should  i do ?
[01:05] <luxurymode> Hey all, I'm new to Ubuntu/Linux. Is there an easy to way to have apps load up automatically on startup and to have them go to a specific spot on the screen, etc - sort of like a workspace?
[01:05] <judgepg> Ubuntu 10.10 Server
[01:06] <JamesWStubbs> sharkoder Do you use a dedicated graphics card?
[01:06] <Doinkle> luxurymode, you can add startups but as for certain workspaces im not sure
[01:06] <JamesWStubbs> luxurymode gscripter might be able to do it
[01:06] <luxurymode> Doinkle: ok thanks
[01:06] <luxurymode> JamesWStubbs: ok i'll check it out
[01:07] <Doinkle> luxurymode, system > prefs > startup
[01:07] <ZykoticK9> luxurymode, System / Preferences / Startup Applications -- for putting them on a particular workspace, i don't think so.  Enjoy Ubuntu.
[01:07] <juniour> jamesWstubbs can i install older version of ubuntu in usb
[01:07] <luxurymode> I just want things like xchat to open up and go to right monitor, terminal on right monitor, etc.
[01:07] <sharkoder> JamesWStubbs: i have an integrated nvidia card. i removed nvidia related packages but still no luck even replacing x.conf with failsafe one
[01:07] <ZykoticK9> sharkoder, have you tried without an xorg.conf?
[01:07] <sharkoder> just removing it?
[01:08] <Doinkle> luxurymode, in startup, goto options.  it has an option to remember which apps, test it to see if it remembers location
[01:08] <JamesWStubbs> sharkoder, you could mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup
[01:08] <ZykoticK9> sharkoder, correct - video "should" auto detect
[01:08] <adstat> When should i run Ubuntu on my Phone?
[01:08] <luxurymode> Doinkle: isnt that just for logging in and out? no rebooting?
[01:08] <JamesWStubbs> sharkoder xorg should automatically set up xorg.conf using vesa then
[01:08] <Doinkle> luxurymode, i never tested it but i dont see why a reboot vs a logout would matter
[01:08] <JamesWStubbs> adstat for ettercap :)
[01:08] <sharkoder> ZykoticK9: i will try now
[01:08] <chelz> how would one, with NetworkManager, have different automatic static IP settings based on which physical ethernet network i'm plugged into?
[01:09] <luxurymode> Doinkle: right. as i said, still new to linux so not sure what the command is for, say, xchat. not familiar with file sys yet..
[01:09] <sharkoder> JamesWStubbs: i generated several times a new xorg, tried failsafe one, tried new one
[01:09] <Blue11> chelz: that's usually done by the router
[01:09] <JamesWStubbs> chelz you could do it with the ifconfig from the terminal or set up /etc/interfaces using a text editor
[01:09] <ZykoticK9> chelz, i doubt that is possible - how would the ethernet card know which network you where on?
[01:09] <Blue11> chelz: called "static dhcp reservation" based on the mac address
[01:09] <chelz> ZykoticK9: mac of the gateay maybe
[01:10] <JamesWStubbs> chelz as Blue11 said it would need to be set up on the router aswell
[01:10] <chelz> Blue11: whenever i've done static ip stuff on a dhcp network, i just set the static ip then it kind of works
[01:10] <luxurymode> Doinkle: is it usr/bin/xchat?
[01:10] <chelz> i just make sure to set static ips that the router won't give out
[01:10] <chelz> i was afraid i'd have to mess with /etc/interfaces ;/
[01:10] <Doinkle> luxurymode, hint: right click on the applications bar, edit menus, then goto properties of the applications for clues. :)
[01:10] <ZykoticK9> luxurymode, it would need to start from a / so /usr/bin/xchat for example
[01:11] <Blue11> chelz: static dhcp reservation is based on the mac address of the port connectiing to it - it sees that mac address on the network, and automagically gives it the same ip address everytime - it's what makes port forwarding work.
[01:11] <JamesWStubbs> Blue11 The interface would still need to request the Ip though won't it?
[01:11] <chelz> Blue11: ah that does sound pretty nice. i don't think my router supports that though
[01:11] <juniour> i hve memory card of 2gb can i install ubuntu in that
[01:11] <luxurymode> Doinkle: thanks. looks like command is just "xchat." Does that make sense?
[01:12] <Blue11> JamesWStubbs: sure it does a dhcp request, but the router knows when it sees that mac adress it gets this particular ip address
[01:12] <bastidrazor> juniour: yes
[01:12] <Doinkle> luxurymode, yes thats correct.. the reason is because xchat is in your environment path
[01:12] <JamesWStubbs> juniour what phone is it?
[01:12] <shawn146|ubuntu> error: unabled to locate folder or directly by terminal
[01:12] <Blue11> chelz: what kind of router do you have?
[01:12] <Doinkle> luxurymode, for reference, type env |more in a shell
[01:12] <ZykoticK9> juniour, 2GB is going to be close to useless
[01:12] <luxurymode> Doinkle: right, figured. thanks so much
[01:12] <shawn146|ubuntu> *directory
[01:12] <juniour> nokia
[01:12] <chelz> Blue11: Comcast Business IP Gateway SMC 8014
[01:12] <JamesWStubbs> juniour n900 by anychance?
[01:13] <ZykoticK9> juniour, if it would fit - you'd better start with Minimal
[01:13] <Doinkle> luxurymode, AlT-F2 is handy to know too.  it parses what is in your path
[01:13] <Blue11> chelz: okay so running open-wrt or dd-wrt is not an option -
[01:13] <pixelated> chelz, that will do it...
[01:13] <shawn146|ubuntu> kernal panic: terminal stress malfunction
[01:13] <chelz> Blue11: i'm working on it
[01:13] <luxurymode> Doinkle: oh ok didnt realize ALT-F2 does path only
[01:13] <chelz> pixelated: it will?
[01:13] <chelz> eh i'll look back through the settings
[01:13] <Blue11> chelz: that sound more like a cable modem and not a router, but I am not fam. with that.
[01:13] <pixelated> chelz, yes, i have it at work, and set up like that...
[01:13] <juniour> zykotick9 can i do it na
[01:13] <juniour> ?
[01:14] <sharkoder> ZykoticK9: I tried to boot without any xorg.conf - no changes, i just have some random pixels on the top side of the screen. if i change to tty1 i get a black screen. it doesn't even start in recovery mode
[01:14] <pixelated> Blue11, it is both
[01:14] <ZykoticK9> juniour, personally i highly doubt it
[01:14] <chelz> pixelated: ah alright. good to hear.
[01:14] <JamesWStubbs> juniour What nokia phone is it?
[01:14] <shawn146|ubuntu> error: unable to find device in CLI
[01:14] <ZykoticK9> sharkoder, i have no idea man.  best of luck.
[01:14] <juniour> zykotick9 let me try it
[01:14] <luxurymode> why is it so friggin impossible to get the resize icon to show up when hovering over the corner of a window?!
[01:14] <Blue11> pixelated: it might be worth investing in a router that can run open-wrt or dd-wrt.  I run dd-wrt on a linksys wrt54gl -- about $50
[01:15] <juniour> jamesWstubbs nokia 5130
[01:15] <ZykoticK9> juniour, even with 4GB on my origional EEEs it was basically to small for ubuntu (especially once you start installing updates)
[01:15] <juniour> ?
[01:15] <chelz> pixelated, Blue11 would "STATIC ROUTING" sound like it would work? it says: "Static Routes allow the users to manually add static routes to create specific paths to the destined networks" then wants a name, destination ip, subnet mask, and gateway ip
[01:15] <Blue11> pixelated: the stock software from linksys would NOT do dhcp reserativion makeing port forwarding useless
[01:15] <JamesWStubbs> juniour There's no linux kernel for it unfortunatly, so it's a no go
[01:15] <sharkoder> ZykoticK9: what can u suggest me or where to write, i need to have access to my box asap without reinstalling the system :(
[01:16] <Blue11> chelz: might work
[01:16] <pixelated> Blue11, the company i work for is in financial investment, so we have another firewall/router behind that, as the info on our localnet is peoples financial data, which get people pissed, and the SEC doing an** probes when data goes off the grid...
[01:16] <ZykoticK9> sharkoder, LiveCD then chroot into the parition?
[01:16] <Doinkle> sharkoder, try the forums
[01:16] <dob_> never try to install 10.04 on a gpt partitioned system with raid. This will never boot...
[01:16] <luxurymode> Doinkle: gonna reboot and see if it keeps window config. brb
[01:16] <sharkoder> i did it already. i reinstalled in this way the grub2 and installed the linux and linux-kernel packages. but i need to start it the normal way
[01:17] <shawn146|ubuntu> uuid d84b3300-5872-40dd-85f6-44a5e7be21cc; terminal panic mode active; awaiting support protocol
[01:17] <Blue11> pixelated: i believe that's known as a catch-22 situation
[01:18] <shawn146|ubuntu> gahh i give up
[01:18] <pixelated> Blue11, no, its a situation where you just lube up and wait for it, as it will eventually come... maybe not today, or tomorrow, but it will :'/
[01:18] <Blue11> pixelated: oh like the u.s. government does
[01:18] <luxurymode> Doinkle: it remembered the basic config!
[01:19] <Doinkle> luxurymode, good to know.
[01:19] <Jordan_U> sharkoder: Have you tried passing the "nomodeset" kernel parameter?
[01:19] <pixelated> Blue11, SEC makes the government look tame...
[01:19] <shawn146|ubuntu>  /unmute shawn146|ubuntu
[01:19] <Blue11> pixelated: priv. message ok?
[01:19] <sharkoder> jordan_U: how to do this?
[01:19] <pixelated> Blue11, sure
[01:20] <sharkoder> Jordan_U: is this done by editing grub boot command?
[01:20] <meco> I installed tuxracer using Synaptic. Now I cannot find it in the Games menu. Shouldn't it be there?
[01:21] <shawn146|ubuntu> ...
[01:21] <swim_> hey everybody!!  I installed 10.04 on an old Toshiba Satellite 1735.  I figured install would pick-up the ethernet drivers, but it turns out that it wasn't ethernet, prob dial-up..  does anybody here have an experience using usb-ethernet adapters??
[01:21] <sharkoder> meco: try alt+f2 and write tuxracer there
[01:21] <Jordan_U> sharkoder: Hold shift during boot to get the grub menu, press 'e' to edit the first menu entry, then add " nomodeset" at the end of the "linux" line, after "quiet splash". Then press ctrl+X to execute the modified entry and boot.
[01:21] <MadDog1> Hi, I've been trying to upgrade from 9.10 to 10.4 (still have a lot to catch up on >_>) and apt keeps giving me the error "E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on mountall".
[01:21] <MadDog1> After searching around a bit I've found some mention in the forums, but I haven't been able to find a working solution. Does anyone know what might be going on here, or what I might be able to do to fix it?
[01:22] <sharkoder> Jordan_U: ok, i'm trying it right now.
[01:23] <craigbass1976> I leave for a day and the place is wrecked....  My wife has caused my battery meter to disappear, and I can't find it to put it back in the panel.  Anyone?
[01:24] <JamesWStubbs> craigbass1976 right-click add to panel?
[01:24] <Mackbet> hi, all i jusy installed a game with wine, when trying to open up the game is asking me the cd, cd is in and don't load
[01:24] <JamesWStubbs> craigbass1976 or get used to using the acpi command in terminal xD
[01:24] <JamesWStubbs> Mackbet what game?
[01:24] <shawn146|ubuntu> blood sweat and tears trying to get into the device with terminal
[01:25] <bastidrazor> !appdb | Mackbet ::check the database:
[01:25] <craigbass1976> JamesWStubbs, ah hahaha.  I don't see it in the list of things I can add to the panel
[01:25] <Mackbet> S.T.A.L.K.E.R. - Shadow of Chernobyl
[01:25] <meco> sharkoder: I got an error message
[01:25] <MadDog1> craigbass1976:  system-> preferences -> power management -> general -> notification area ?
[01:26] <swim_> does anybody have any experience using usb-ethernet adapters or wifi adapters with ubuntu??
[01:26] <aeon-ltd> swim_: a little with wifi, but with usb i assume its the same, as in load a module
[01:26] <craigbass1976> MadDog1, thanks.  I'm changing my password I think...
[01:27] <ZykoticK9> swim_, i use a usb wireless from time to time - i pretty much just plug it in an it works though.
[01:27] <JamesWStubbs> Mackbet Have you followed these instructions? http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=7377
[01:27] <sharkoder> Jordan_U: nomodeset has no effect. also when i boot in recovery mode i got this errors:
[01:27] <sharkoder> FATAL: Error inserting uvesafb (/lib/modules/2.6.32-24-generic/kernel/drivers/video/uvesafb.ko): Uknown symbol in module. or unkown parameter (see dmesg). also i got some fsck messages that seems to e irrelevant
[01:27] <swim_> aeon-ltd and Zykotick9 ever have problems with drivers??  ubuntu detects it well??
[01:27] <Mackbet> oh thx just viewing now
[01:27] <ZykoticK9> sharkoder, was this caused by trying to change plymouth resolution?
[01:27] <skooz> just installed Ubuntu 10.10  on another computer.  type my user name and pass and comes back asking for pass word again slowly. reinstalled it got it logged in safe mode one time can get it to run using the CD.
[01:28] <ZykoticK9> swim_, in my case, it's always just worked OOTB (_really_ depends on hardware being used)
[01:28] <JamesWStubbs> swim_ When it's not insterted enter ifconfig 0a
[01:28] <JamesWStubbs> swim_ When it's not insterted enter ifconfig -a
[01:29] <sharkoder> i played with it earlier, and it was working. the current cause of my actual problems is lost /boot partition, reinstalled grub linux packet and kernel
[01:29] <JamesWStubbs> then when it is inserted try again, see if there's a new interface that shows up
[01:29] <swim_> what are you using?? Zykotick9??
[01:29] <Blue11> skooz: a couple ways to recover but first are you certain of password/userid?
[01:30] <ZykoticK9> swim_, i don't use it often (it's just for emergencies) but it's a Broadcom WG111v2
[01:30] <skooz> yes i am certain
[01:30] <Blue11> skooz: private message ok?
[01:30] <MadDog1> Having problems with upgrading from 9.10 to 10.04, anyone know what the apt error "E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on mountall" is about or how to resolve it? :)
[01:30] <skooz> yes plz
[01:31] <antonius> will i be able to read/write my hfs+ hd in latest ubuntu release?
[01:32] <GeekSquid> antonius: yes... there is a package that provides support for it
[01:32] <nasser> hey
[01:32] <JamesWStubbs> hi
[01:33] <nasser> Does anyone know if there's a gtk theme similar to this one: http://leonardomdq.deviantart.com/art/Simple-Lucid-163950448#/d2vvxd2
[01:33] <nasser> ?
[01:33] <nasser> Thanks a lot! :)
[01:33] <antonius> GeekSquid: wouldn't know that name of that packarge would ya?  I'm having trouble finding that...
[01:34] <antonius> looks like hfsplus has read/write with journaling disabled...hmmm
[01:34] <ZykoticK9> sharkoder, sorry man - i have no ideas for ya.  Best of luck.
[01:34] <nasser> Does anyone know if there's a gtk theme similar to this one: http://leonardomdq.deviantart.com/art/Simple-Lucid-163950448#/d2vvxd2?
[01:34] <nasser> Does anyone know if there's a gtk theme similar to this one: http://leonardomdq.deviantart.com/art/Simple-Lucid-163950448#/d2vvxd2 ?
[01:35] <nasser> sorry for sending twice my message!
[01:36] <sharkoder> nasser: browse gnome-look.org .  i have seen smth similar there. try the top downloaded / rated
[01:36] <GeekSquid> antonius: hfsplus, hfsprogs and hfsutils , you shouldn't have a problem writing to it... but you will have to set device permissions in fstab if you want it to be easily accessable all the time
[01:36] <nasser> sharkoder: by the way, have u seen the icone theme LaText 2? i can't find it anywhere
[01:37] <antonius> GeekSquid: thx!
[01:37] <sharkoder> nasser: i dunno
[01:37] <luxurymode> how do you install these themes btw? couldnt figure out how to install themes not already built in
[01:38] <nasser> sharkoder: i dunno? i do not? :s
[01:38] <sharkoder> nasser: i don't know :P
[01:39] <dorbin> Hello folks! I am hoping to get a quickie-help-fix: I am fixing a GRUB2 error15 by running chroot and dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc. Then i get a blue screen which asks me to verify a command line extracted from the legacy GRUB menu.lst -- the problem is that this line is blank -- should I leave it blank or type something clever in it ??
[01:39] <nasser> sharkoder: ;) i'm not english so i'm not used to talking using abbreviations!
[01:40] <Jordan_U> dorbin: Leave it blank.
[01:40] <Dazza71> anyone help with vbox issue ?
[01:40] <ionwind_> jordan
[01:40] <ionwind_> im block
[01:40] <Mackbet> Nope don't work
[01:40] <ZykoticK9> !anyone | Dazza71
[01:41] <ionwind_> i cant goo true with this testdisk
[01:41] <JamesWStubbs> ZykoticK9 BURNED!
[01:41] <Dazza71> ok i cant get my usb drive to show up when i am in vbox
[01:41] <JamesWStubbs> :)
[01:41] <Jordan_U> ionwind_: Is english your first language?
[01:41] <ZykoticK9> Dazza71, are you using the VBox direct from Oracle or the one in the ubuntu repository?
[01:41] <dorbin> Jordan_U: should I install GRUB on / or /boot ??
[01:42] <ionwind_> no español
[01:42] <ionwind_> jajaja
[01:42] <ZykoticK9> Dazza71, the Ubuntu one - VBox-OSE doesn't support USB
[01:42] <ionwind_> can u spanish??
[01:42] <Jordan_U> dorbin: Neither, you shouldn't install grub to a partition.
[01:42] <Dazza71> i think its oracle version
[01:42] <ZykoticK9> Dazza71, how did you install it?
[01:42] <Dazza71> from website
[01:42] <Jordan_U> dorbin: Install to the mbr, like "sda" and *not* to a partition like "sda1".
[01:42] <dorbin> Jordan_U: that's what I meant - I have a root partition (/) and a boot partition (/boot)
[01:43] <dorbin> Jordan_U: OK
[01:43] <MadDog1> Encountering errors when upgrading from 9.10 to 10.04; what's the apt error "E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on mountall" about, or how should I go about resolving it? :)
[01:43] <ZykoticK9> Dazza71, ya - that's the PUEL (or somthing) version then - that should support USB.  There is a USB icon in the bottom of the VBox window - if you mouse click on it does it give an option to mount the USB drive?
[01:43] <dorbin> Jordan_U: But then why have a seperate /boot partition??
[01:44] <JamesWStubbs> MadDog1 Use fuser to find out which process is using a mounted disk, then use killall or top to kill the pid of that process
[01:44] <luxurymode> How do i install icon theme? I ran command for PPA repo, but dont see any changes...
[01:44] <Jordan_U> dorbin: A separate /boot partition is primarily used as a way of working around a type of BIOS bug.
[01:44] <Dazza71> it shows my usb drive in the settings but soon as i start my vbox no usb drive is available
[01:45] <ZykoticK9> Dazza71, what about at the bottom of the vbox window (that has your Ubuntu VM running inside it?)
[01:45] <Mackbet> The game is already installed ready to start, when i launch it the application told me to put in the cd, cd is in but don't load
[01:45] <JamesWStubbs> Dazza71 There's a menu called devices i think so, devices>removablestorage>Usbdevice>enable
[01:45] <xangua> luxurymode: you drag the icon theme to the appearence window
[01:45] <dorbin> Jordan_U: Well - it worked like a charm. THank you for your help.
[01:45] <GeekSquid> luxurymode: adding a ppa makes the ppa available to apt-get ... use apt-get update to get the repos into cache, then search for icons in aptitude
[01:45] <JamesWStubbs> Dazza71 I think that's the way it is anyway, been a while since I used it
[01:45] <Jordan_U> dorbin: You're welcome.
[01:45] <skorv> hey youz guyz.... anyway to make squid not to cash specific ip?
[01:46] <MadDog1> I'm not really sure how to go about doing that... running "sudo fuser -am /dev/disk/by-uuid/b10c2cb7-a97d-42f5-b183-efd0249ed06" outputs only "/dev/disk/by-uuid/b10c2cb7-a97d-42f5-b183-efd0249ed068:" , for instance. :|
[01:46] <GeekSquid> !es | ionwind
[01:47] <Mackbet> There are other ways to intall application from cd?
[01:47] <ionwind_> ya lo hice y estan mas cayados que aqui :(
[01:47] <GeekSquid> Mackbet: what application?
[01:48] <Dazza71> is virtualbox ose better than oracle version then ?
[01:48] <Mackbet> It's a game "S.T.A.L.K.E.R. - Shadow of Chernobyl"
[01:48] <ZykoticK9> Dazza71, it doesn't support USB... other then that - very similar
[01:49] <meco> I just tried playing both tuxracer and urban terror, but neither worked very well. Tux played at about 2FPS and was extremely jerky and quite unresponsive. Urban terror had big black flickering squares of various sizes and positions popping up all of the time. I suppose that means my PC isn't equipped to play such games?
[01:49] <GeekSquid> ionwind: excepto estos ladrones sólo hablan Inglés ... translate.google.com es mi amigo
[01:49] <ZykoticK9> meco, gaming is more dependent on what graphics card you have then CPU really.  Do you know what graphics card you have?
[01:50] <wers> i'm going to dual boot this new 128gb MacBook Air with Ubuntu. what Ubuntu partition size would you recommend? is /home partition still logical on a Mac?
[01:50] <Dazza71> can I access files from the unbuntu side via vbox ?
[01:50] <meco> ZykoticK9: No, but it's sure to be an old cheap one.
[01:50] <ZykoticK9> meco, from a terminal "lspci | grep -i vga" would tell you.
[01:50] <luxurymode> GeekSquid: awesome. thanks a lot
[01:51] <meco> ZykoticK9:  Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[01:51] <ZykoticK9> meco, intel graphics aren't ideal for gaming i'm affraid ;)
[01:52] <meco> ZykoticK9: I'll just stick to playing Facebook games then.. Oh well!
[01:52] <GeekSquid> Mackbet: you cannot install a windows game into linux natively, and chances are it will not run in WINE either... Linux isn't really ready for gaming... we are getting there and in the next couple of years things will change, but for now you'll need a windows machine to run/install it
[01:52] <quentusrex_> Anyone know of a way to get a cdrom to automatically boot with an ssh server?
[01:53] <quentusrex_> I have an old computer with no working graphics port, and I'm trying to boot it as a headless server
[01:53] <meco> GeekSquid: Do you foresee a huge wave of Linux gaming initatives in a few years then?
[01:54] <setar_> hi all
[01:54] <JamesWStubbs> meco due to the increasing ammount of mobile platforms using a linux kernel and the increase in mobile phone gaming, it probably will happen soon
[01:55] <Mackbet> anyway i had to migrate the cd content in a folder to install it because i couldn't tick on "allow to execute as a program"
[01:55] <meco> That's exciting...
[01:55] <setar_> i have a problem in new kernel compile. everybody can help me?
[01:55] <JamesWStubbs> meco Just my two cents
[01:55] <GeekSquid> meco: yes, but it is still in its infancy
[01:56] <GeekSquid> quentusrex_: SLAMPP maybe ... http://slampp.abangadek.com/info/ ... you could turn on the ssh server via http
[01:56] <setar_>  i have a problem in new kernel compile. everybody can help me?
[01:57] <GeekSquid> setar_ your question would be more appropriate for #kernel or #ubuntu-kernel
[01:57] <Gartral> I can't get ubuntu-one to syncronize with the cloud server, it says i have no internet connection
[01:57] <setar_> tnx GeekSquid
[01:58] <ZykoticK9> Gartral, you might want to ask in the #ubuntuone channel
[01:58] <GeekSquid> Gartral: strange, is it trying to use the wrong eth? or perhaps you should reinstall ubuntu-one
[02:00] <Mackbet> there is a task on ubuntu like "task manager on windows" to terminate stucked application?
[02:01] <ZykoticK9> Mackbet, kill and killall from terminal - or xkill for GUI (not as good BTW)
[02:01] <GeekSquid> Mackbet: top or System>Admin>System Monitor
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[02:03] <Gartral> ok new question guys, i got a newer touchpad than what ubuntu's default drivers can support.. what can i do?
[02:03] <Antiqua> Mackbet, or try htop
[02:03] <tintumon> rs0832:r u here?
[02:04] <GeekSquid> tintumon: nope, not in the room
[02:05] <tintumon> what about the xchat
[02:06] <GeekSquid> tintumon: this is ubuntu support, doesnt matter what client you are using .... please speak in complete sentences, this is not SMS
[02:08] <MadDog1> Rather stuck here. I'm trying to resolve the error from apt "E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on mountall. Running mountall manually the problem seems to be in the swap; using swapon/swapoff has no effect on the error.
[02:08] <MadDog1> I don't know how to use lsof or fuser to see what might be causing problems, though I have tried "sudo fuser -am /dev/disk/by-uuid/b10c2cb7-a97d-42f5-b183-efd0249ed06" and "sudo fuser -am /dev/sda5"; both just output the name followed by a colon, I'm not sure if that means anything important.
[02:09] <peytoniumnitrate> how do you make windows more transparent??
[02:09] <peytoniumnitrate> on ubuntu 10.4
[02:11] <GeekSquid> peytoniumnitrate: install compizconfig-settings-manager and enable extra desktop effects in System>Prefs>Appearence ... then run CompizConfig Settings Manager from System>Preferences .... then ask in #compiz
[02:12] <peytoniumnitrate> thanks
[02:13] <subz3r0> GeekSquid, im on that too atm. maybe you can tell me where i can raise the time ?
[02:13] <tintumon> sukhmano???
[02:13] <subz3r0> i mean for the random effects, not for the effects i can add by my own
[02:15] <chrisA1> Hello again.
[02:15] <subz3r0> hi
[02:15] <chrisA1> Trying to get the Ubuntu LiveCD to run. It dies on 'Setting sensors limits' without saying Failed or OK.
[02:15] <skraito> hi all
[02:15] <tintumon> what is the advantage of html5 webtool kit
[02:15] <tintumon> hai
[02:16] <tintumon> skraito:hello
[02:16] <chrisA1> Is there some way to turn off that part of the LiveCD?
[02:16] <skraito> hi tintumon
[02:16] <skraito> whats up
[02:16] <tintumon> its a bad mrng without sms offer
[02:17] <tintumon> skriato: did u c silsila in youtube
[02:17] <skraito> nope
[02:17] <skraito> brb tintunmon
[02:18] <GeekSquid> subz3r0: like i said before .... ask in #compiz --- which is specific to the program
[02:18] <GeekSquid> !offtopic | tintumon
[02:19] <Noia> whats the quickest way to install LAMP?
[02:19] <Kennen> hello everybody.
[02:20] <GeekSquid> Noia: install tasksel .... then sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[02:20] <Noia> GeekSquid, genius
[02:20] <GeekSquid> Noia: actually I am about 3 or 4 IQ points above that
[02:24] <chrisA1> Hm. New data points: selecting all the alternative options (noacpi etc) gets it to say OK, but then it freezes after that. Also apparently this machine only has 512M of ram.
[02:24] <GeekSquid> chrisA1: have you tested the disk?
[02:24] <chrisA1> Yeah, it's good.
[02:24] <chrisA1> Though lemme check again, just to be thorough...
[02:24] <GeekSquid> chrisA1: laptp[?
[02:25] <cody_> Hey, Is the Klamav update supposed to take a long time and the scan supposed to take under a minute?
[02:25] <chrisA1> No, just an old cheap Intel mobo and case for like $75.
[02:26] <cody_> the only thing it says it "Hint: The Database directory must be writable for UID 1000 or GID 1000"
[02:27] <smw> cody_, it means the OS won't let it read the file. You need to change the owner or the permissions.
[02:27] <GeekSquid> chrisA1: there are lots of options, (text commands) that can be entered at boottime that are not part of the F6, but "cheap" of course doesn't always mean it will work with linux... another point, you might try an older version, as it might support the board better... other than that IDK
[02:28] <cody_> hmmm, kk
[02:28] <cody_> how do I fix that? it hasn't created a Virus Database yet
[02:28] <cody_> at least I don't think so
[02:29] <suxs> Hello everyone. I'm having issues installing ubuntu and windows xp on the same machine. I don't want to reinstall windows, I tried installing ubuntu 5 times and I still can't boot to ubuntu. Any ideas?
[02:29] <GeekSquid> cody_: are you running the update as sudo?
[02:29] <Poshepocket> I've downloaded dropbox installation package/file thingy. How do I install it? seems as if sudo apt-get doesn't work?
[02:29] <cody_> no
[02:29] <cody_> how do I do that?
[02:29] <GeekSquid> !sudo |cody_
[02:29] <KM0201> suxs: thats extremely unusual... what are you doing?
[02:29] <cody_> ah, kk
[02:29] <xangua> Poshepocket: followed the instructions at dropbox site¿
[02:30] <icarus-c> suxs, did you tell ubuntu to install boot loader to MBR ?
[02:30] <Poshepocket> My "broadband" is so slow right now it's not broadband.
[02:30] <shawn146|ubuntu> yay got into the folder
[02:32] <chrisA1> GeekSquid: Okay, thanks... 2 minutes googling for boot options got me nowhere, suggestions?
[02:32] <GeekSquid> Poshepocket: are you running torrents?
[02:32] <joe__> hai
[02:32] <Poshepocket> geeknik, I'm not.
[02:32] <GeekSquid> chrisA1: reccommend dsl ... damnsmalllinux.org .. with that kind of ram,
[02:33] <peytoniumnitrate> do you know how to make terminal transperant?
[02:33] <GeekSquid> Poshepocket: Poshepocket install etherape and you will be able to see exactly what is eating up your network
[02:33] <chrisA1> GeekSquid: Ah, fair point. Thanks.
[02:33] <Poshepocket> geeknik, apt-get?
[02:33] <GeekSquid> Poshepocket: sudo apt-get install etherape
[02:34] <xangua> peytoniumnitrate: edit>preferences
[02:34] <aeon-ltd> peytoniumnitrate: use a terminal that supports it, or use compiz
[02:35] <peytoniumnitrate> i got it!!
[02:35] <peytoniumnitrate> thank you!
[02:36] <peytoniumnitrate> geek do you know about gentoo
[02:37] <xangua> peytoniumnitrate:  /join #gentoo
[02:37] <GeekSquid> peytoniumnitrate: that would be offtopic .. and no, not really, it is a linux varient #gentoo would be the place to go
[02:38] <Poshepocket> GeekSquid, so how do I use EtherApe? What's if for?
[02:38] <peytoniumnitrate> i didnt know this channel was strict
[02:39] <GeekSquid> Poshepocket: once installed run as "gksudo etherape" select your capture device i.e. eth0 eth1 or wlan0 .... and you will see what it does
[02:40] <lboken> hi all i install a ubuntu 10.10 ona pc as server (mysql,icecast,ftp,apache,file sharing server ect) on the pc i have 2 hdd 120gig  and a 250 gigi would like to know what would be the best partitionning (what hd to install my os, and all that where to mount also the swap configuration )
[02:43] <w0bb1y> my hdd partitioing setup is /boot = ext4, 150M, /root = lvm, 5G, tmp = lvm, 2G, swap = 4G
[02:43] <w0bb1y> sometimes I also separate var and var/log onto lvm "partitions" also
[02:43] <w0bb1y> that way you can use the lvm to resize and juggle disk space if you start to run low anywhere
[02:45] <lboken> w0bb1y what is lvm?  cause i dont see that option  in the formating
[02:46] <w0bb1y> Logical Volume Management...... you need to setup the partitions as LVM partitions
[02:46] <w0bb1y> but in a pinch you can use the same sizes for raw partitions
[02:47] <ZykoticK9> lboken, lvm is used by default in Fedora, but non-standard in Ubuntu world.  I'm not saying that w0bb1y's suggest is bad in any way - just that it's non-standard.
[02:47] <w0bb1y> lvm is an install option only on the alternative install cd I see now....
[02:48] <lboken> ah ok i dont have the  that option  so i can use it lol i dont ahve the alternative install cd
[02:48] <w0bb1y> lvm allows you to resize the partitions and re-allocate space available on hard drives
[02:48] <lboken> k
[02:49] <w0bb1y> if you are not using lvm then I would set boot=150M, root=5-15G, tmp=2G var=2-5G and the rest for home or where your main data storage will be (eg /var/www )
[02:49] <rinku_kokiri> why does my vlc have a pagan satan hat on it?
[02:49] <rinku_kokiri> i wish to have this effin satan hat removed from my vlc player
[02:49] <lboken> k thanks w0bb1y
[02:49] <w0bb1y> np ....
[02:50] <ZykoticK9> rinku_kokiri, are you using ubuntu-se by any chance?
[02:50] <rinku_kokiri> i doubt it
[02:50] <rinku_kokiri> i'm using ubuntu desktop
[02:50] <rinku_kokiri> but i installed vlc like day before yesterday
[02:51] <ZykoticK9> rinku_kokiri, ok just checkin'.  I have no idea - i don't use VLC much.
[02:51] <rinku_kokiri> and it's got the dumb christmas satan hat on it
[02:51] <xangua> rinku_kokiri: stop that
[02:51] <trism> rinku_kokiri: it's just an easter egg for the holiday season, it'll go away eventually, or you could compile it out
[02:51] <tintumon> is there anybody
[02:51] <icarus-c> lboken, what's good with LVM is that you could join volume on different hard drives as ONE big partition
[02:51] <rinku_kokiri> aah so i'm forced to celebrate the pagan holidays
[02:51] <rinku_kokiri> thanks a lot ubuntu
[02:52] <ZykoticK9> rinku_kokiri, santa - not satan I take it?
[02:52] <lboken> w0bb1y does it mather whish hd as wat fonction on it? like should i put swap, boot and root on the hd1 and the  var and the rest of  the data space on my other hd? or  my swap would be better if its on the 250 instead of 120
[02:52] <tintumon> rinku_kokiri:hello
[02:52] <w0bb1y> maybe not .... http://www.av1611.org/othpubls/santa.html
[02:52] <Jezek> alright im trying to generate an openssl key
[02:53] <Jezek> but when i enter in the command it just shows a > and a blinking cursor
[02:53] <ZykoticK9> lboken, unless you have a specific reason to use multiple partitions - i'd recommend against it.
[02:53] <w0bb1y> only really requirement (as far as I am concerned) is that boot and root(/) of the first drive in the system
[02:53] <bonhoffer> is there an undelete in ubuntu?
[02:54] <lboken> ZykoticK9 i have 2 hd so i have to use multiple partitions at least 2 lol
[02:54] <bonhoffer> i just removed a directory i didn't want to
[02:54] <ZykoticK9> Jezek, there is a problem with your command - it's not complete.  You can use Ctrl+c to close the > prompt.
[02:54] <Jezek> hrm
[02:54] <icarus-c> lboken, i would use LVM to join both hard drives. and partition with it. that way you could have a big continuous partition for data (250GB + (120GB - OS size) )
[02:54] <ZykoticK9> lboken, that's true - but separate boot tmp is really not required - adds a lot of complexity
[02:54] <Jezek> i copied code here
[02:55] <w0bb1y> it adds some complexity and is a saviour when an errant process fills tmp or var/log I found
[02:55] <Jezek> http://code.google.com/apis/gdata/docs/auth/authsub.html#openssl
[02:55] <w0bb1y> nothing worse than var/log filling up or tmp and other services failiing
[02:55] <ZykoticK9> Jezek, you could try typing "eof" which should finish the command - but i still think there is an issue
[02:56] <icarus-c> lboken, if you use LVM, you could make a 370GB 'partition'  out of your 250GB & 120GB hard disks.  but separating OS & data on different partitions is a good idea.
[02:56] <Jezek> oh nvm
[02:56] <Jezek> updated openssl and now it works
[02:56] <lboken> icarus-c i dont have lvm option on the installation
[02:58] <ermiBR> hi people
[02:58] <lboken> so the data is mainly on var and on home isnt that right ? icarus or w0bb1y
[02:58] <icarus-c> lboken, anywhere you want it
[02:58] <w0bb1y> yes... var and home represent data
[02:58] <w0bb1y> generally speaking
[02:59] <grpace> Hello.  I'm having great problems getting MySQL to connect.  I keep getting the mysqld.sock error.  Could I get some help ?
[02:59] <lboken> ok thanks so ill put var and home on my biger hd and the rest on the first, thanks for your help guys
[02:59] <icarus-c> well but /var  also includes log file, cache, and many other stuff
[03:00] <lboken> yes but then its the one who vary the size the most still   so it a good idea to have it on the biger disk
[03:00] <icarus-c> lboken, if you ask me. i would make one partition on the big hard disk,  and mount -t bind  to proper place on the OS
[03:00] <rusivi> grpace: may want to redirect to #mysql
[03:00] <w0bb1y> grpace ... type ps ax | grep mysql and see if the server it running
[03:00] <icarus-c> lboken, say on the big hard disk, you have one partition, containing 2 folders "home" & "var"     then you mount -t bind these 2 folders back to /home  & /var
[03:01] <w0bb1y> it sound like the mysqld process is not running
[03:01] <Dwade09> where is the trash icons hidden at?
[03:01] <icarus-c> lboken, that way you don't have to split 2 partitions and resize them like hell when you need to adjust partition size
[03:01] <Daemonik> Where is the equivalent of grub.conf??
[03:02] <lboken> how do i do the -t bind? i just dont format it yet and when ubuntu is installed i do that part?
[03:02] <ZykoticK9> Dwade09, if you currently don't see a Trash on your panel, then right click - add to panel - Trash.
[03:02] <bonhoffer> is there a way to undelete a directory?
[03:02] <grpace> w0bbly:  I get:  6433 pts/0    T      0:00 start mysql.  It's supposed to be starting on boot.
[03:02] <bonhoffer> looking at foremost . . . et
[03:02] <bonhoffer> etc
[03:02] <Dwade09> ZykoticK9,  no i want to change the icon of the trashcan, the empty icon and the full icon.
[03:02] <icarus-c> lboken, let ubuntu install on the small hard disk first. after installation, then work on the big hard disk and do the binding
[03:02] <w0bb1y> looks like it is trying to start and has not yet started
[03:03] <ZykoticK9> Dwade09, ahh.  I have no idea.
[03:03] <lboken> k thanks that what ill do
[03:03] <icarus-c> lboken, since ubuntu installer is lacking of customization options
[03:03] <icarus-c> lboken, unless you use the alternative installer
[03:03] <w0bb1y> mine shows ...  1611 ?        Ssl    9:05 /usr/sbin/mysqld
[03:03] <kingcheese26> anyone know of a place to get ceni?
[03:03] <lboken> no i use thenormal installator
[03:03] <w0bb1y> the start mysql usually runs as the process to start the mysql server
[03:04] <R0b0t1> Ello. I recently did the distribution upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04, and when booting, I get "Cannot find symbol grub_puts_". Note I must boot through rEFIt to get to GRUB.
[03:04] <icarus-c> lboken, but the OS would use less than 20GB i suppose so you should still have spare ~100GB on the small disk :P
[03:05] <grpace> w0bbly:  The mysqld.sock file doesn't exist on the system.  Both Webmin and phpMyAdmin fails.  I've Googled the heck out of it and none of the suggestions I've found seem to work.
[03:05] <w0bb1y> did you try doing a service mysql stop... and then service mysql start ?
[03:05] <icarus-c> grpace, do you have mysql running?
[03:05] <ZykoticK9> !webmin > grpace
[03:05] <lboken> yeah i know its just that since i have that much disk on that pc and all my connector are used on my other  i have to keep the 2 disk there  so that why on my laptop ill install less space (cause on that one i want to use both linus and still windows
[03:06] <w0bb1y> also there is a log file for mysql usually in /var/log/mysql/error.log that might indicate the problem
[03:06] <w0bb1y> I have also had similar problems when moving mysql data directory around that seems to be related to app_armour
[03:07] <w0bb1y> and even though I have resolved those issues in the past with app_armour I don't know what in the end resolved the problem
[03:08] <R0b0t1> Ello. I recently did the distribution upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04, and when booting, I get "Cannot find symbol grub_puts_". Note I must boot through rEFIt to get to GRUB.
[03:10] <Dwade09> ZykoticK9,  thanks anyways.
[03:11] <R0b0t1> Ello. I recently did the distribution upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04, and when booting, I get "Cannot find symbol grub_puts_". Note I must boot through rEFIt to get to GRUB. I believe I can fix this from my Mac partition if I could find a way to find the name of my kernel, but meh
[03:11] <comulent> hi all
[03:11] <grpace> w0bbly: I'm seeing InnoDB errors: InnoDB: The error means mysqld does not have the access rights to the directory. File name ./ibdata1
[03:12] <grpace> Also seeing Plugin FEDERATED is disabled.
[03:13] <w0bb1y> check the ownership on the directory /var/lib/mysql and see if there are any files in there not owned by "mysql"
[03:15] <MoMo> what is the vnc package i want if I want to VNC from a windows box and control a live session on a unbuntu screen?
[03:15] <grpace> w0bbly: 3 sub-dirs, 5 files, all appear owned by mysql.
[03:15] <grpace> I see the ibdata1 file there.
[03:16] <w0bb1y> is the partition that the mysql files on out of disk space ?
[03:17] <grpace> w0bbly: No... about 27% used.
[03:17] <w0bb1y> weird !
[03:17] <w0bb1y> is there any data in the inoodb tables in  your mysql server
[03:18] <wasabi_> i've been looking for this but still no go. how do you load raid drivers during ubuntu server setup?
[03:18] <grpace> Haven't gotten to setting up tables, yet.
[03:18] <wasabi_> ubuntu 10.10 doesn't seem to recognize the highpoint r2640 raid card
[03:18] <grpace> Also, on the ibdata1 file, I can clearly see owner read/write privileges.
[03:20] <grpace> w0bbly:  There's also another error showing: /usr/sbin/mysqld: Can't find file: './mysql/plugin.frm' (errno: 13) [ERROR] Can't open the mysql.plugin table. Please run mysql_upgrade to create it.
[03:21] <w0bb1y> have you run mysql_upgrade ?
[03:21] <grpace> No.  Wasn't sure about that one.  It's a fresh instll.
[03:22] <w0bb1y> if it is a fresh install then something major has gone wrong during the install
[03:23] <w0bb1y> if there is not data in the innodb tables in your mysql server you coudl try removing the innodb files (ibdata and iblog)
[03:23] <w0bb1y> and then restart mysql and let it recreate them
[03:23] <w0bb1y> but this will be bad if there is data in any innodb tables in the server
[03:24] <grpace> w0bbly:  just tried mysql_upgrade...  More errors: Looking for 'mysql' as: mysql Looking for 'mysqlcheck' as: mysqlcheck. mysql_upgrade: Can't create/write to file 'sqlIiwRSW' (Errcode: 13). FATAL ERROR: Failed to create temporary file for defaults.
[03:25] <w0bb1y> did you "sudo su -" before running the update script ?
[03:26] <grpace> w0bbly: No.  I'll try that.
[03:26] <w0bb1y> ok... that might be it
[03:26] <WillowRabbit> server irc.anthrochat.org
[03:27] <w0bb1y> also if the disks are "slowish" it may take a little time for mysql to create the innodb tables and the server will not be able to be connected to until after the innodb tables are created
[03:27] <grpace> w0bbly: tried it.  Got error: 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) when trying to connect. FATAL ERROR: Upgrade failed.
[03:28] <grpace> Basically, right back to the same error.
[03:28] <lboken> now i get somthing wierd i used the cd to try my wireless card on ubuntu it worked fine but was on the wrong pc so i installed it on the other and installed ubuntu  now once installed the wireless card isnt even reconised
[03:29] <VanDyke> http://twitpic.com/3lencq
[03:30] <VanDyke> ubuntudroid :P
[03:30] <w0bb1y> is there any data in the server at all ?
[03:30] <w0bb1y> mysql server that is ?
[03:31] <comulent> hey guys.... may i please ask for a bit of help? I'm having trouble with a netbook Ive just installed 10.10 onto. The bluetooth adapter is not being recognised....
[03:31] <icarus-c> lboken, what is the output of "lspci |grep Network  "
[03:31] <comulent> actually, gtg! BRB in 15 mins... sorry lol
[03:31] <comulent> \afk
[03:32] <grpace> w0bbly:  Likely the only data (if any) would be the initial root account and password.  It keeps referring to the .sock file which doesn't exist. *Many* messages on the web had the same issue.
[03:32] <wolfric> is there anyway to download all the man pages for software i don't have installed?
[03:32] <w0bb1y> ok... you could try the lazy route... uninstall and re-install
[03:33] <w0bb1y> or a dirty hack to blow away the /var/lib/mysql/* and let mysql think that it is starting for the first time
[03:33] <icarus-c> wolfric, google "man foobah "   :)
[03:33] <feanor> I need a command to change to english keyboard layout, and asap
[03:33] <sacarlson> MoMo: the default that is already installed in ubuntu called vino-server
[03:33] <grpace> w0bbly: I think it's down to that.  However, I have it setup as an upstart job.
[03:33] <subz3r0> feanor, google.
[03:33] <icarus-c> wolfric, where foobah is the program you are looking for
[03:34] <w0bb1y> you can still stop and start the mysql from the command line (as root)
[03:34] <wolfric> icarus-c: right but i said download
[03:34] <w0bb1y> just stop the service (although it is not running) then blow away the files in /var/lib/mysql
[03:34] <w0bb1y> and all the directories under there too
[03:34] <wolfric> icarus-c: I want the whole collection of man pages so if i don't have access to the internet and want to look up a program i havne't got installed, it's there
[03:34] <w0bb1y> then do a "service mysql start"
[03:35] <grpace> w0bbly: OK.  I'll try the uninstall/reinstall route.  Thanks for all your help !!
[03:35] <w0bb1y> that should trick it to recreate all the initial files
[03:35] <w0bb1y> no problem
[03:35] <lboken> when i type with grep Network i have nothing showing i tryed lspci and it only sees my wired network card not my wireless wish is a d-link
[03:35] <GeekSquid> wolfric: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop ... then sudo rm -f /var/lib/mysql
[03:35] <icarus-c> lboken, or is is a USB wireless adapter? in that case  lsusb
[03:35] <teluge> hey guys i need a ventrillo client for linux any ideas?
[03:35] <wolfric> GeekSquid: wrong person?
[03:36] <lboken> no its a pci network
[03:36] <lboken> pci wireless network card
[03:37] <StrangeCharm> i'm having difficulty connecting to a wifi network with WPA2 personal, using the network manager applet. when i attempt to connect, the icon changes to the 'trying to connect' icon, then 30s later prompts me for a the network password, though the password field is already populated. if i hit connect, the process just repeats
[03:37] <icarus-c> teluge, run the windows version on wine maybe
[03:37] <icarus-c> teluge, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=2169
[03:37] <subz3r0> StrangeCharm, are you sure you set the pass correctly?
[03:38] <subz3r0> StrangeCharm, and if the other options fit?
[03:38] <GeekSquid> teluge: www.mangler.org is a linux native ventrilo client
[03:38] <teluge> i love u squid
[03:38] <teluge> ty
[03:38] <teluge> guys
[03:38] <sacarlson> w0bb1y: maybe have him try complete purge and install
[03:38] <subz3r0> its gettin warmer in here ... :D
[03:38] <lboken> icarus-c: ill try somthing ill remove the card and put it back see if it work then ill retry with just the live cd
[03:38] <StrangeCharm> subz3r0, pretty darn sure. it worked a few days ago, and i verified the password field on the router. there's only one option to pick, and that's security type, where i select wpa2 personal
[03:38] <sacarlson> w0bb1y: but sounds like it will be stuck on remove anyway
[03:39] <w0bb1y> sacarlson ... it should be ok on the remove
[03:39] <subz3r0> StrangeCharm, did you change anything or did anything got updated?
[03:40] <soapcontainer> for anyone interested, this is the correct and easiest way to install steam on ubuntu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=540039
[03:40] <StrangeCharm> subz3r0, not that i recall. i don't remember making any configuration changes
[03:40] <teluge> one last question... how do i unpack and install a .deb or do i jus make it executable and double click it?
[03:40] <subz3r0> StrangeCharm, try it with a other pass. like 123 just for testing purposes
[03:41] <StrangeCharm> subz3r0, all right, i'll try that
[03:41] <subz3r0> StrangeCharm,  just to make sure its no conversion issue or what so ever
[03:42] <subz3r0> teluge, just click on it
[03:42] <GeekSquid> teluge: .deb is not executible ... it is opened/installed with sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[03:42] <subz3r0> or this way... :)
[03:42] <teluge> thanks it's working i love you guys...
[03:42] <sacarlson> teluge: I've just double clicked them if I downloaded a deb file
[03:43] <StrangeCharm> subz3r0, nope, seems not to have worked
[03:43] <lboken> icarus-c finaly it was the card was not well pluged it seems cause now its work fine thanksfor your help
[03:44] <lboken> now ill log out of this pc to go on my ubuntu so if i need to give info it will be alot easier
[03:44] <iLinux> how to bypass sudo password?
[03:44] <subz3r0> StrangeCharm, had a look on var/log?
[03:45] <subz3r0> iLinux, sudo -s
[03:45] <StrangeCharm> subz3r0, cunning, let me see
[03:45] <iLinux> subz3r0, bypass forever?
[03:45] <subz3r0> iLinux,  but BE carefull what you doing"
[03:45] <subz3r0> iLinux, no
[03:45] <subz3r0> iLinux,  just untill you close the terminal
[03:45] <FreezingCold> How much would getting connected with canarie cost?
[03:46] <subz3r0> iLinux,  its NOT a good idea what you want to do. but its your decision
[03:46] <subz3r0> iLinux, i highly recommend you to not do that
[03:46] <w0bb1y> iLinux.... you need to update the sudoers file (cmd: sudo visudo ) and make the line "%adm ALL=(ALL) ALL" be "%adm ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL"
[03:46] <lexinerus> In the movie "Social Network" Mark Zuckerberg use linux, i can see his desktop enviroment is KDE, OMG!
[03:46] <subz3r0> who gives a f... about that crappy movie?
[03:47] <w0bb1y> but I agree with subz3ro0.....
[03:47] <subz3r0> wondering how this movie got such a good rating on imdb. just ridiculous
[03:47] <iLinux> w0bbly: it'll bypass whatever we do? (like administrative tasks, apt-get)
[03:47] <subz3r0> iLinux, yes.
[03:48] <StrangeCharm> subz3r0, i'm not sure how to interpret this. can i pastebin you?
[03:48] <iLinux> i think i changed my mind
[03:48] <subz3r0> just paste the link, coze im about to go to bed
[03:48] <w0bb1y> iLinux... yes... but them rm -rf / becomes an issue :)
[03:48] <subz3r0> ~5 am here
[03:48] <subz3r0> im sure anyone else will help you
[03:48] <VanDyke> sudo rm -rf /
[03:48] <iLinux> w0bbly: what do you mean become an issue?
[03:48]  * VanDyke quits: dumb move executed
[03:48] <ZykoticK9> !danger
[03:49] <subz3r0> VanDyke, rm -rf / is lovely, dont show him this trick.
[03:49] <GeekSquid>  !danger | iLinux w0bb1y * we do not say that command in here
[03:49] <subz3r0> sorry folks
[03:49] <w0bb1y> if you type it by mistake it will just happen...... there will be no second chance when you are asked for the passowrd
[03:49] <w0bb1y> sorry
[03:49] <VanDyke> subz3r0, haha
[03:49] <iLinux> sorry, what's that command meaning?
[03:49] <iLinux> i dont understand
[03:50] <subz3r0> it shows you some naked boobies
[03:50] <VanDyke> BOOBIES
[03:50] <subz3r0> ok enuff for now
[03:50] <w0bb1y> that command will delete the entire OS and all data and everything
[03:50] <VanDyke> and pussy
[03:50] <VanDyke> lotsa pussy
[03:50] <GeekSquid> iLinux: that command deletes everything, including all my boobies
[03:50] <iLinux> what the...
[03:50] <Symphoniiie> Salut, est-ce qu'il y a des français, j'ai besoin d'aide pour installer un logiciel sous Ubuntu
[03:50] <subz3r0> GeekSquid, haha
[03:50] <furbal> hello all
[03:50] <GeekSquid> !fr | Symphoniiie
[03:50] <nit-wit> iLinux, it will wipe your HD
[03:50] <subz3r0> hello you
[03:50] <furbal> got installed ubuntu
[03:50] <wasabi_> can you mount an ubuntu server image in a desktop live session and install it?
[03:51] <Symphoniiie> Sorry, Bye ^^
[03:51] <iLinux> nit-wit:  wipe your HD?
[03:51] <furbal> but then, the os doesnt appear on startup]
[03:51] <subz3r0> iLinux, and you are really sure u want to get rid of the sudo command ? even if you dont know what rm -rf means?
[03:51] <StrangeCharm> subz3r0, http://pastebin.com/6GEHzuXk
[03:51] <GeekSquid> !vbox | wasabi_
[03:51] <Doinkle> wasabi_, to where?
[03:51] <iLinux> subz3r0: no i have changed my mind
[03:51] <nit-wit> iLinux, the command that generated the danger right
[03:51] <w0bb1y> yes
[03:52] <subz3r0> StrangeCharm, sorry dude, im going to bed in some secs
[03:52] <subz3r0> ~5am here
[03:52] <subz3r0> need to get up in 4 hours :/
[03:52] <wasabi_> okay so i have a raid card that ubuntu installer doesn't recognize. i'm trying to install it onto an ssd. my motherboard doesn't support ahci so the ssd doesn't work. so i'm trying to load the raid card drivers in a live session so that ubuntu server installation will recognize the raid card and harddrive
[03:52] <StrangeCharm> no problem
[03:53] <lboken> hi again  now im back on ubuntu  pc :-)
[03:53] <w0bb1y> welcome back lboken
[03:53] <R00teR> where are you from subz3r0
[03:54] <subz3r0> R00teR, .de
[03:54] <R00teR> and work tomorrow?
[03:55] <subz3r0> StrangeCharm, just had a short look on it, is the mac filter turned on?
[03:55] <Doinkle> !topic | R00teR
[03:55] <R0b0t1> Ello. I recently did the distribution upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04, and when booting, I get "Cannot find symbol grub_puts_". Note I must boot through rEFIt to get to GRUB.
[03:56] <R00teR> mmm
[03:56] <iLinux> ubuntu 11.04 alpha 1, is it available?
[03:56] <R00teR> ubottu, ?
[03:56] <GeekSquid> !ubuntu+1 | iLinux
[03:56] <AbhiJit> iLinux, yes
[03:57] <GeekSquid> !guidelines | R00teR
[03:57] <lwizardl> ok what is wrong with this command ? gconftool-2 - set /apps/metacity/global_keybindings/panel_main_menu - type string "Super_L"  ? I am trying to get the menu to open with the windows key
[03:57] <pksadiq> AbhiJit: are you a bot? don't you have your exams? ;)
[03:57] <AbhiJit> :(
[03:57] <R00teR> about what?
[03:58] <icarus-c> lwizardl, it is --set and --type
[03:58] <tareq> hello
[03:58] <lc> 那位兄台告诉我，这东西咋玩呢
[03:58] <GeekSquid> R00teR: This is a support channel, the topic is Ubuntu support ... please read and understand the guidelines before coming here...
[03:58] <icarus-c> !cn | lc
[03:58] <lwizardl> icarus-c,  thank you
[03:59] <subz3r0> if you wanna flirt with me, pm me ;)
[03:59] <Doinkle> R00teR, take offtopic to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:59] <subz3r0> back to topic ...
[03:59] <StrangeCharm> i'm having trouble connecting to a wireless network using the network manager applet in 10.10. the network used wpa2 personal, but i disabled security to debug, and the problem persists. i had no trouble connecting yesterday, but today, the applet just shows the 'trying to connect' icon perpetually. a syslog except is at http://pastebin.com/6GEHzuXk
[03:59] <tareq> helo me
[03:59] <tareq> help me
[04:00] <icarus-c> tareq, not until you ask your question
[04:00] <tareq> >>>>>>>>>>>>> i am new  , some body help me <<<<<<<<<<<<<,,
[04:00] <StrangeCharm> !ask | tareq
[04:00] <lc> help you what
[04:00] <R00teR> i understand this but i dont understand why you say that
[04:00] <lboken> StrangeCharm:  first if you ahve another pc test to see if its not the router cause some time you need to reset the router to connect to it  that might help  i would test that first see if its help you since yesterday it was working fine
[04:01] <GeekSquid> R00teR: you are offtopic and have been sence you came in, If you continue to make offtopic statements I will have to request that you be removed, YES I can do that!!!
[04:02] <rww> GeekSquid: don't be bossy, please :(
[04:02] <subz3r0> R00teR, they want to have the channel as clean as possible. so only ubuntu related stuff should be discussed in here. thats it
[04:02] <lboken> StrangeCharm: if you dont ahve another pc to try the wireless from then try to reset your router ( unplug it count to 15 then plug it back   90% of the  time that a op cant connect to the net that what happen
[04:03] <R00teR> ok
[04:03] <StrangeCharm> lboken, i have other machines that can connect fine, and i already tried both soft and hard resetting the router
[04:03] <GeekSquid> rww: sorry, O:-) .
[04:03] <shing`> On my system, randomly all 4 cores spike to about 70/80% usage on conky, top shows nothing is taking anywhere close to that amount of cpu, yet my computer is sluggish...anyone know whats going on?
[04:04] <lboken> k then ill lets the pro help you further more
[04:04] <shing`> It happens about once every 1-2 days, and lasts for about a minute, and then everything is back to normal.
[04:04] <subz3r0> GeekSquid got an overdoze titties today ;)
[04:04] <Doinkle> shing`, disk usage?
[04:04] <nosy_> hello everyone
[04:05] <dotblank> !language
[04:05] <shing`> Doinkle: ah...not monitoring that...how can I check that at a command line next time this happens?
[04:06] <GeekSquid> shing`: ps aux will output an instant of what is going on
[04:07] <shing`> GeekSquid: But thats the thing, when this happens, nothing has that high cpu usage percent
[04:07] <shing`> or is top and ps aux different?
[04:08] <GeekSquid> shing`: ps aux prints one time, and you see every process, whereas top only shows the top ... try it
[04:08] <rugwiro> hello!everyone i want to install a remote access in my ubuntu so that i can access windows system.can anyone help me??
[04:08] <shing`> Alright, I'll try that next time, thanks!
[04:10] <pksadiq> !ssh | rugwiro
[04:10] <icarus-c> rugwiro, you mean you want to access windows from ubuntu or access ubuntu from windows ?
[04:10] <Doinkle> rugwiro, ubuntu has a client installed already
[04:10] <GeekSquid> rugwiro: tsclient in linux is the remote desktop app that access's windows systems. ... if you have a terminal server running on your windows machine XPpro or WinVista/7 ultimate
[04:10] <rugwiro> access ubuntu from windows
[04:11] <pksadiq> how can I increase the number of tty ?
[04:11] <breadcrumb> rugwiro, putty is a very good SSH/telnet client for windows
[04:11] <pksadiq> rugwiro: if you need only file sharing use samba
[04:11] <breadcrumb> !putty
[04:11] <GeekSquid> rugwiro: install RealVNC or UltraVNC in windows ... and setup remote desktop with System>Preferences>Remote Desktop
[04:11] <rugwiro> ook let me try
[04:11] <breadcrumb> oh ok didnt know he meant graphical
[04:12] <R0b0t1> I attempted to boot the LiveCD for 10.10 on my Intel Mac. Booting the CD from within rEFIt simply does not work, and running the EFI script from within the rEFIt boot menu produces a kernel panic. Will versions 10 and up simply just not run on Macs?
[04:13] <Gnea> pksadiq: look at /etc/init/
[04:13] <pksadiq> Gnea: k, let me check
[04:13] <Gnea> pksadiq: each tty has its own tty#.conf
[04:13] <GeekSquid> R0b0t1: skip rEFIt ... push and hold C with the live disk in the drive while doing a hard restart of the mac
[04:13] <pksadiq> Gnea: init.d folder?
[04:13] <Gnea> pksadiq: no, /etc/init/
[04:14] <pksadiq> Gnea:  let me check
[04:15] <comulent> hi there everyone
[04:15] <WillowRabbit> g
[04:15] <comulent> may i ask for a bit of help please?
[04:15] <Gnea> !ask | comulent
[04:16] <comulent> i've just installed ubuntu 10.10, netbook edition, on a gateway VR46
[04:16] <comulent> having trouble getting the bluetooth adapter being recognised
[04:16] <Gnea> what bluetooth adapter?
[04:16] <comulent> it's builtin
[04:17] <comulent> one sec, i'll try to find the specs
[04:17] <Gnea> does it show up in lspci or lsusb?
[04:17] <Doinkle> comulent, does lsusb list it?
[04:17] <comulent> i have no idea how to check that
[04:17] <Gnea> comulent: open a terminal and type: lspci  or  lsusb
[04:17] <comulent> i'm completely new to linux, i'm afraid....
[04:17] <Doinkle> dont be afraid
[04:17] <Gnea> comulent: ah, you can find the terminal under Accessories
[04:17] <Doinkle> or hit CTRL-ALT T
[04:18] <GeekSquid> comulent: open a terminal Accessories>Terminal ... type lspci <enter> and lsusb <enter>
[04:18] <Gnea> yes :)
[04:18] <comulent> haha awesome. ctrl alt T wins!
[04:18] <R0b0t1> GeekSquid: Well, that was a waste of time. The CD won't boot normally at all, it prints "\t1.\n\t2.\nChoose how to boot the CD:"
[04:18] <R0b0t1> And won't let me type anything.
[04:19] <R0b0t1> I'm assuming it kernel panicked behind the scenes.
[04:19] <Gnea> R0b0t1: is the cd drive light blinking?
[04:19] <R0b0t1> I don't have a CD drive light, but no, it stops spinning.
[04:19] <GeekSquid> R0b0t1: sounds like a bad disk
[04:20] <R0b0t1> Fine, I'll burn another one, but the first one passed the verify.
[04:20] <comulent> not seeing it under lspci or lsusb....
[04:20] <comulent> this means i need to find the driver for the device, right?
[04:20] <Gnea> R0b0t1: make sure you can read the new disk as its contents with the system you burn it with before trying to boot
[04:20] <GeekSquid> comulent: not exactly
[04:20] <Gnea> R0b0t1: you know, pop it in and open it as a folder
[04:21] <Gnea> comulent: er, it means that linux isn't seeing it at all
[04:21] <Gnea> comulent: is there a button that you can press to turn bluetooth on/off?
[04:21] <pksadiq> comulent: I had to disconnect the device first time and reconnect to get the bt recognized
[04:21] <comulent> no hardware button im afraid =/
[04:22] <pksadiq> comulent: try to remove and connect again
[04:22] <Gnea> comulent: you're *sure* that it came with the bt module physically installed?
[04:22] <Gnea> pksadiq: he said it's builtin
[04:22] <comulent> pksadiq: it's in the laptop.... like physically inside it,,., can't uplug it
[04:22] <Steve973> I'm trying to boot the installation CD for 10.10 on a USB dvd drive.  when it boots, it tells me ERROR: No configuration file found
[04:22] <Steve973> what's going on?
[04:22] <comulent> yeah, it's got a light for it and a fn button for it... fn+F3 but it doesn't activate
[04:22] <GeekSquid> comulent: I think your best option would be to buy a usb bt device that is known to work with mainline kernels
[04:23] <comulent> everything else does,. volume, brightness, etc
[04:23] <Gnea> comulent: what you need to do is press fn+f3 *once*, then check lspci and lsusb
[04:23] <pksadiq> comulent: k, sorry
[04:23] <comulent> GeekSquid: wow.... that's a bit of an annoyance
[04:23] <comulent> gnea: ok... i'll try that
[04:23] <comulent> brb
[04:24] <Gnea> comulent: remember, everytime you press it, you're turning it on or off. if it's off, linux might not see it.
[04:25] <comulent> Gnea: yeah, i figured that. i tried it just once, and it;s still not showing
[04:25] <comulent> unless it has a super cryptic name
[04:25] <Gnea> comulent: another option is to check dmesg, which spits out a ton of kernel messages that tells you exactly what's going on with the hardware
[04:25] <comulent> Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[04:25] <comulent> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[04:25] <comulent> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[04:25] <comulent> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[04:25] <comulent> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 04f2:b175 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd
[04:25] <FloodBot4> comulent: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:25] <Gnea> comulent: to make it easier you should use pastebin
[04:25] <comulent> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[04:25] <Gnea> !pastebinit | comulent
[04:26] <comulent> oops. i did bad... sorry for flooding
[04:26] <Gnea> comulent: yeah, install pastebinit and run the commands through that
[04:26] <aju> hai all, While am trying to create the custom configure file for mod_jk For connecting apache2 and tomcat5
[04:26] <Gnea> no problem
[04:26] <aju> got an error
[04:26] <aju> create the custom configure file
[04:26] <Gnea> comulent: heh, I was trying to tell you that before you hit the paste :)
[04:27] <aju> configure.in:19: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_PROG_LD
[04:27] <comulent> lol.... yeah,, sorry.
[04:27] <comulent> you guys are awesome for helping out, though. just thought id mention that'
[04:27] <plc90210> I just installed ubuntu on my laptop but now i can't get the internet to work
[04:28] <plc90210> can someone plz help me?
[04:28] <Gnea> that's what we're here for
[04:28] <Gnea> plc90210: how are you trying to connect?
[04:28] <plc90210> I'm following the instructions on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[04:29] <plc90210> I'm following the steps under "Installing STA drivers --> STA - Internet access
[04:29] <GeekSquid> aju: perhaps ask in #apache
[04:30] <coz_> plc90210,   are you stuck at some point?
[04:30] <plc90210> because I know my laptop has the BCM4311 model
[04:30] <alif> guys, anyone know a fast program download??
[04:30] <comulent> by the way guys. i just checked the gateway website.... my notebook/netbook has a broadcom bluetooth device
[04:30] <coz_> alif,  program for what?
[04:30] <Doinkle> alif, ???
[04:31] <plc90210> yeah, when I type in the command 'sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source', it says its unable to locate the package
[04:31] <GeekSquid> plc90210: 32 or 64 bit OS? I haven't gotten any 64bit system to work with the broadcom devices?
[04:31] <coz_> plc90210,   did you use the cd  as a package source?
[04:31] <alif> program download..
[04:31] <plc90210> I'm not sure, it's a pretty old laptop (Lenovo 3000 C200)
[04:32] <Gnea> comulent: well, see if you can get pastebinit installed and run it through dmesg
[04:32] <HandyGandy> Anyone on now use graphics tablets?
[04:32] <coz_> plc90210,   ok open system/administration/synatpic package manager
[04:32] <HandyGandy> Actually I wanted to know the state of drivers in general.
[04:32] <plc90210> coz_ yeah, I downloaded it from the ubuntu site
[04:32] <coz_> plc90210,  you downloaded the .deb package for that?
[04:32] <GeekSquid> plc90210: please type uname -a and paste the output here
[04:32] <alif> download program, who is know, so i can download too fast
[04:32] <pksadiq> !find bcmwl-kernel-source
[04:33] <Doinkle> alif, you make little sense to us
[04:33] <GeekSquid> alif: what is your default language?
[04:33] <plc90210> coz_: I'm not sure, actually my cousin gave me the cd, and he burned it from the website
[04:33] <Bluefever> Quick question. I turned off my computer about 2 hours ago, and just turned it on again, and at startup Ubuntu said it was checking the disk for errors. It never does this, and I can't think of anything that would have caused it. Is this some kind of routine thing every so many startups?
[04:34] <coz_> plc90210,  ah ok did you open synaptic package manager?
[04:34] <plc90210> yep
[04:34] <Doinkle> Bluefever, i believe so
[04:34] <coz_> plc90210,  ok click  "Settings"  then "Repositories"
[04:34] <ZykoticK9> Bluefever, every 30 mounts or X many days it auto checks
[04:34] <coz_> plc90210,   second tab "Other Software"  make sure all are ticked
[04:34] <Bluefever> @Doinkle. O.K. thanks guys appreciate it! :D
[04:35] <coz_> plc90210,   close out of the  repository dialog and hit the RELOAD   button
[04:35] <R0b0t1> GeekSquid: No, still get the same error. I'm just going to burn another 9.10 disk
[04:35] <plc90210> I got some error after clicking reload
[04:35] <coz_> plc90210,  what is the error?
[04:36] <plc90210> its a bunch of lines, most starting with "W:: Failed to fetch" and then some links to the ubuntu website
[04:36] <GeekSquid> plc90210:  you will need to hardwire to the network for anything to work, if wireless is not working
[04:37] <coz_> plc90210,  is the error sitll visible?
[04:37] <plc90210> yeah
[04:37] <alif> guys, what's the name of the software to download?? so i download quickly...
[04:37] <GeekSquid> alif: what is your native language?
[04:37] <alif> indonesia
[04:38] <GeekSquid> !in | alif
[04:38] <rww> !id
[04:38] <comulent> hey guys. i've installed pastebinit, but i think i'm doing it wrong... and i'm feeling a little more hopeless the more i try this =P
[04:38] <coz_> plc90210,   let me see if I can download that package hold on
[04:38] <comulent> i've tried dmesg pastebinit -b
[04:38] <Gnea> comulent: like this:  dmesg | pastebinit
[04:38] <comulent> and it says invalid option
[04:38] <Gnea> comulent: that's a pipe, btw: shift + \
[04:38] <alif> okey, thank
[04:38] <comulent> Usage: dmesg [-c] [-n level] [-r] [-s bufsize]
[04:38] <comulent> oh
[04:38] <comulent> of course!
[04:39] <Gnea> comulent: that's the nice thing about unix/linux: you can take the output of one command and pass it directly to another command
[04:40] <comulent> yeah, that's sexy
[04:40] <Gnea> so, if it works right, it should just output a URL
[04:41] <coz_> plc90210,   i have that package hold on I will put on dropbox
[04:42] <comulent> hmmmm
[04:42] <comulent> working on it
[04:42] <comulent> this is tricky but fun to learn.
[04:42] <GeekSquid> comulent: in terminal Ctrl-Shift-C to copy
[04:43] <coz_> plc90210,   are you still here?
[04:43] <plc90210> yeah
[04:43] <coz_> plc90210,    ok see if you can download this   http://www.speedyshare.com/files/25984214/bcmwl-kernel-source_5.60.48.36_bdcom-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[04:43] <comulent> GeekSquid: it seems that when i try dmesg | pastebinit, it just returns the line and i'm in pastebinit. but i don't know how to exit it
[04:44] <pksadiq> coz_: the same file is in ubuntu repo, I think that link is faster and better
[04:44] <comulent> also, when i just run dmesg by itself, there's so much data that i can't scroll up to the beginning.
[04:44] <linux_> 的撒
[04:44] <linux_> 的萨的萨的撒dsaewqewq
[04:44] <linux_> qqqqqqqqqqqq
[04:44] <linux_> qq
[04:44] <linux_> qqqq
[04:44] <linux_> qqqqwewq
[04:44] <FloodBot4> linux_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:44] <Gnea> !cn | linux_
[04:44] <linux_> qw
[04:44] <rww> linux_: something we can help you with?
[04:44] <plc90210> coz_: sorry, could you post the link again?
[04:44] <econ> Anyone think they could help me with editing a config file?
[04:45] <coz_> plc90210,      http://www.speedyshare.com/files/25984214/bcmwl-kernel-source_5.60.48.36_bdcom-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[04:45] <secretary_linux> econ: which config file?
[04:45] <coz_> plc90210,   just right click that and "open with browser"   if you are using xchat
[04:46] <GeekSquid> comulent : you should get a line that says http://pastebin.ca/numbers .. and a prompt
[04:46] <econ> its for privoxy. I've never edited a config file before, so this might be a really newb question but i'm reading the documentation on how to set it up here   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Privoxy
[04:47] <econ> and in the part where he says to jump to line 661 or whatever, I don't see any actual line numbers/don't know how to jump anywhere. all I see are the # comments talking about the config file
[04:47] <Gnea> comulent: you just need to wait for it to do its thing
[04:47] <coz_> econ,  is this opened in a text editor?
[04:47] <Gnea> comulent: if it hasn't returned to the prompt, it's still trying to talk to the server
[04:48] <GeekSquid> econ: if you type gksudo gedit /path/to/config/file you will see the line numbers in the bottom row
[04:48] <plc90210> coz_: ok, I downloaded the file to my usb
[04:48] <econ> coz, i'm looking at this in the terminal
[04:48] <comulent> GeekSquid: Success!!  http://paste.ubuntu.com/548995/
[04:48] <coz_> plc90210,   ok  you should just have to  open a terminal ...cd to the location of that deb package     sudo dpkg -i  nameofpackage.deb
[04:49] <econ> geeksquid, ok thanks, I'll try that
[04:50] <plc90210> coz_: right now, i'm using my other laptop, not the laptop with ubuntu
[04:50] <coz_> plc90210,  ah ok
[04:50] <plc90210> i don't have internet on the ubuntu laptop
[04:51] <comulent> GeekSquid: lsusb -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/548997/        lspci -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/548998/
[04:51] <coz_> plc90210,   oh yeah  sorry ...didnt even cross my mind
[04:51] <coz_> plc90210,   just move that from the usb drive onto the desktop of ubuntu then  install it
[04:52] <comulent> GeekSquid:  you were absolutely right. i thought i had hung or was just waiting for a further input. it was just taking a bit of time to post it i now realize.
[04:52] <plc90210> another problem, I put the usb in to my laptop (with ubuntu, but it's not showing up on the desktop
[04:52] <GeekSquid> comulent: something on your usb bus is causing a problem, I cannot see a complete dmesg, just the errors from USB, ... what is plugged into usb?
[04:52] <comulent> lspci and lsusb were a lot quicker than dmesg
[04:53] <plc90210> nvm, it showed up now
[04:53] <comulent> i'm charging my android phone, it's just set to charge though, so it shouldn't even come up as a device if it's just drawing power.
[04:53] <comulent> i'll unplug it anyway
[04:53] <er9i> hai...
[04:54] <GeekSquid> comulent: try a dmesg without the android plugged in
[04:54] <plc90210> coz_: should I open the package with software center or archive manager or something else?
[04:54] <coz_> plc90210,  is it on the desktop of ubuntu?
[04:54] <Gnea> comulent: maybe like this:  cat /var/log/dmesg | pastebinit
[04:55] <plc90210> yeah
[04:55] <coz_> plc90210,   open a terminal
[04:55] <comulent> okay guys, thanks. i'll try that.
[04:55] <plc90210> ok
[04:55] <econ> GeekSquid, ok I can see the line numbers now, they opened in another window. The thing is though, this whole thing just seems to be instructions about how the config file works, not the actual config file. I don't know if I'm missing something or the author skipped a step without explaining it. Once again I'm looking here  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Privoxy
[04:55] <coz_> plc90210,   in that terminal type       cd  Desktop    make sure it is an upper case "D"
[04:55] <plc90210> next?
[04:56] <coz_> plc90210,   now  type      sudo  dpkg -i  and the first three letters of the package name then hit "tab"  tocomplete  the name
[04:56] <coz_> plc90210,   then hit enter
[04:56] <zetheroo> seems to me that whenever Flash is used the browser, no matter which one, starts crapping itself big time ... :(
[04:57] <comulent> whoops. i did it without the URL i used before. Got a different domain now -> http://pastebin.com/CcwffxF2
[04:57] <coz_> zetheroo,  even in firefox?
[04:57] <jkoch> Does anyone know when the intel intergrated graphics won't be so laggy?
[04:57] <coz_> zetheroo,  is this 32 or 64 bit?
[04:57] <zetheroo> coz_: especially in FF
[04:57] <GeekSquid> econ: and I quote "    This howto  explains how to get Privoxy going. Although the config file is 1075  lines, its worth noting that 1022 of them are comments, and 38 are  blank! (And we only edit 1!!) "
[04:57] <coz_> zetheroo,  oooo
[04:57] <plc90210> I hit enter and typed my password, and now it says "dpkg: status database area is locked by another process"
[04:57] <zetheroo> coz_: both ... I have this issue in 32 and 64 bit systems
[04:58] <coz_> zetheroo,  is it an extreme lag or just a slight jerky behavior when watching video ?
[04:58] <coz_> zetheroo,  also is this a desktop or laptop?
[04:58] <GeekSquid> comulent: now that that works ... what are we trying to fix... Please ask your origional question again, my memory is fried and filled with a ton of use less junk
[04:58] <Flavius_Julius_J> close other package managers
[04:58] <jkoch> zetheroo: what graphics card do you have. i'm having the same problem..
[04:59] <apetrescu> What's the best option for someone on Maverick who wants to run a 2.6.37 kernel? Should I compile it myself, is there a PPA for it somewhere, a canonical .deb people use, etc?
[04:59] <comulent> GeekSquid: hahah that's cool mate. I've got a problem with my Bluetooth adapter not being recognised. All i want is my little bluetooth USB mouse to play nice and actually work.
[04:59] <zetheroo> coz_:  the whole browser starts freezing up ... not just the video
[04:59] <zetheroo> coz_: laptop and desktop
[04:59] <zetheroo> jkoch: nvidia
[04:59] <coz_> zetheroo,  oo    and is the nvidia built in on the desktop as well?
[04:59] <econ> GeekSquid, ohhhh, I see. For some reason I thought all the actual lines would be at the end of the comments not interlaced, or at least would stand out more, so I missed them and thought it was all comments. Thank you!
[05:00] <coz_> zetheroo,   you may want to go into the bios and allow more memory for video  if that is possible on either ot both systems
[05:00] <plc90210> coz_: it returned an error saying "dkms is not installed"
[05:00] <zetheroo> coz_: with FF it will go grey (not responding) for a while and then come back to life ... only to be very glitchy and jittery
[05:00] <coz_> plc90210,   oooo
[05:00] <comulent> GeekSquid: When I run the Bluetooth preferences, it says that I don't have any adapters plugged in.
[05:00] <plc90210> how do i install dkms?
[05:00] <coz_> plc90210,   hold on
[05:00] <jkoch> coz_: i did that and it didn't help me and i have the same problem as him
[05:00] <zetheroo> coz_: Laptop is Intel and Desktop is nvidia
[05:01] <coz_> plc90210,  which video card on that system?
[05:01] <zetheroo> coz_: I highly doubt it's a video memory issue ... both systems have ample
[05:01] <GeekSquid> comulent: try the fn key  thing and run lspci again
[05:01] <coz_> plc90210,  well you can try   sudo apt-get install dkms
[05:01] <jkoch> zetheroo: is your laptop the dell inspiron 1100
[05:01] <zetheroo>  jkoch: laptop is not a dell
[05:02] <coz_> plc90210,  is it possible to hard wire that to the internet at all?
[05:02] <zetheroo>  jkoch: is your browser also greying out?
[05:02] <coz_> zetheroo,  give me a link to a site you are watching flash on
[05:02] <jkoch> zetheroo: yes. i have the inspiron 1100 dell laptop with a celeron processor and the intel 82845G intergrated graphics.
[05:03] <zetheroo>  jkoch: do you have the dwhelper plugin installed?
[05:03] <jkoch> coz_: the flash lag is on any website, can't even watch on youtube.
[05:03] <zetheroo> coz_: go to Youtube ;)
[05:03] <timboy> anyone know how to use the ubuntu SSO from login.ubuntu.com as an openid?
[05:03] <coz_> zetheroo,  ok I am on youtube
[05:03] <jkoch> zetheroo: no? what is the dwhelper
[05:04] <zetheroo> jkoch: ok .. it's just an addon that allows you to download Flash video content
[05:04] <zetheroo> jkoch: I was wondering if that was maybe the issue ... but obviously it's not
[05:04] <plc90210> coz_: I don't know which video card is on the system; I tried to hard wire it, but it's still not connecting
[05:04] <coz_> plc90210,    in terminal    lspci | grep -i vga     will tell you the video card
[05:04] <zetheroo> jkoch: the thing is that this happens for me in FF, Chrome and Opera ... so it cannot be a browser issue
[05:04] <comulent> GeekSquid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/548999/
[05:05] <jkoch> zetheroo: nope. i'm on a fresh install. i noticed that i can watch any other kind of video besides flash, but the whole operating system seems to have a little video lag as well
[05:05] <ericinohio> ever since i upgraded to lucid, my fonts in browser windows don't render correctly - half of some letters are gone...anyone know where to look for a fix, having a hard time googling the issue and getting anywhere
[05:05] <zetheroo> jkoch: which leaves me to believe the Flash is the culprit
[05:05] <zetheroo> jkoch: what version of Flash are you using?
[05:05] <jkoch> the newest one from adobe.com
[05:05] <coz_> zetheroo,   mm if that addon is responsible try adding      video downloadhelper   << written just like that  for firefox
[05:06] <plc90210> coz_: "Intel corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)"
[05:06] <zetheroo> coz_: that's the one I have installed ;)
[05:06] <wasabi_> if i compile a raid card kernel module and place it in the /lib/modules/'uname-r'/drivers/scsi folder, does it matter what the file name is for the .ko file?
[05:06] <coz_> zetheroo,  oh ok I use that here with no issues
[05:06] <luxurymode> hey all. sometimes when i hover over a menu item and it should open a sub menu after a sec...it doesnt. sometimes it does sometimes it doesnt. have to move away from that item and back to get it to work. or just click it. any idea how to fix?
[05:06] <jkoch> zetheroo: sounds like plc90210 has the same problem lol
[05:07] <comulent> brb - afk - have to take a phone call =/
[05:07] <zetheroo> jkoch: really? ... hmm
[05:07] <zetheroo>  jkoch: whats you Flash version?
[05:07] <joeyeye> Can someone help with grub2 and restoring a winxp partition ?
[05:07] <jkoch> coz_: it's gotta have something to do with the intergrated intel graphics and linux in general. i've found a thousand forum posts about it all over the interwebz
[05:07] <zetheroo>  jkoch: mine is 10.1.102.65
[05:08] <coz_> jkoch,   I agree
[05:08] <jkoch> zetheroo: 10.1.102.65
[05:08] <coz_> luxurymode,   you can speed that up  to 0  delay   but I am not sure that is the issue
[05:09] <oneliner> joeyeye have you tried duso dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc  ?
[05:09] <plc90210> coz_: i tried installing dkms by typing "sudo apt-get install dkms" and it returned an error saying "Package dkms is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source."
[05:09] <denile> !log
[05:09] <oneliner> sudo not duso :)
[05:09] <coz_> plc90210,   do you have the original install cd in the cdplayer>?
[05:10] <joeyeye> oneliner, I just want to walk through the steps with someone first - can you help ?
[05:10] <coz_> plc90210,  you may have to use that  as a source for the packages  although I dont know if all of t hem are on the cd
[05:10] <plc90210> coz_: no I took it out, i still have it with me though
[05:10] <coz_> plc90210,  ok stick it in the cd player and open synaptic package manager....actually it should ask if you want to use the cd as a source
[05:11] <joeyeye> I have /dev/sda, with /dev/sda1 for ubuntu, and want to restore a clonezilla image to /dev/sda2 with winxp
[05:11] <oneliner> well that would fire the reconfiguration of grub, simply accept without making changes, it should then at the end find your lost xp os and include it in the boot options next time you restart
[05:11] <oneliner> ah
[05:11] <oneliner> way over my head :D
[05:11] <joeyeye> will it also create the mbr for xp ?
[05:11] <coz_> luxurymode,  as I said if you want  I can help you set the delay on the menus  to   "0"
[05:11] <coz_> luxurymode,  or not as extreme  like say  "1" or so
[05:11] <oneliner> i thought you wanted to recover an already installed os
[05:12] <coz_> plc90210,   did you check that cd for errors?
[05:12] <joeyeye> oneliner, not exactly, my XP is coming from a clonezilla image I made earlier
[05:12] <wasabi_> if i compile a raid card kernel module and place it in the /lib/modules/'uname-r'/drivers/scsi folder, does it matter what the file name is for the .ko file?
[05:12] <plc90210> how do i check it for errors?
[05:13] <coz_> plc90210,   well you would have to reboot with the cd  and when  you see the accessibility logo and keyboard logo at the bottom of the screen  hit Enter  to get a menu...there you will see  check cd for errors or integrity
[05:13] <coz_> plc90210,  I am assuming this is a live cd ...yes?
[05:13] <ubnoob> <Colin969: I just logged in, what system do you have?
[05:14] <plc90210> I opened up synaptic package manager after putting the cd in and it said I have "1 broken package"
[05:14] <coz_> plc90210,  ok under the  file or  edit menu is  a listing for  "Fix broken package"   my guess is that it will remove  that file you installed hoever
[05:14] <coz_> however
[05:14] <comulent> ok i'm back now. GeekSquid: forgot to mention i'm also trying Bluetooth Manager (BlueZ) and it can't run, says: BlueZ daemon is not running, blueman-manager cannot continue.
[05:15] <plc90210> what do you know... its the bcmwl-kernel-source that's the broken package
[05:15] <GeekSquid> comulent: I am calling it a night, I hope I have helped some
[05:15] <oneliner> joeyeye i guess you could try placing the clone uncompressed in an ntfs partitioned drive and then let grub it on the reconfigure step,.. is the clone from the same box? else prepare for driver issues
[05:16] <comulent> hey guys... my task bar on the side has gone blank. does anyone know how I can restart it without rebooting? I'm using netbook 10.10
[05:16] <jkoch> zetheroo: if you do the pop out youtube player you can at least watch videos, not full screen but without skipping
[05:16] <comulent> that's a separate issue, by the way :P
[05:16] <coz_> plc90210,  yeah I guessed that would be removed  because all of the dpenedencies have not been met
[05:16] <zetheroo> jkoch: honestly never tried that ...
[05:16] <GeekSquid> comulent: pkill gnome-panel will reset it
[05:17] <coz_> plc90210,   I would run the live cd  ...hit enter when you see those logos  and check cd integrity
[05:17] <jkoch> zetheroo: try it. i just saw it on a forum and tried it and it worked for me
[05:17] <plc90210> coz_: so i should reboot with the cd inside?
[05:17] <coz_> plc90210,   yes
[05:18] <coz_> plc90210,   I assume this is also  ubuntu 10.10 .. yes?
[05:18] <plc90210> yep
[05:19] <coz_> plc90210,  ok  you should see those logos  at the bottom of the screen at some point  at which time hit Enter  to get to the menu
[05:19] <R0b0t1> Hello, I just used this article to try to fix a problem I was having: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/05/fix-symbol-grubputs-not-found-when.html Sadly, it didn't work. What now?
[05:19] <zetheroo> jkoch: it plays  ... though not as smooth as it should be
[05:19] <coz_> plc90210,   I have to break here...I will try to return  a bit later.... I know many here are more capable than I am for helping with this issue
[05:19] <plc90210> coz_: ok, thanks for the help
[05:19] <jkoch> zetheroo: agreed, but it's better than the intense skipping it usually does on the full site. it's better than nothing for now.
[05:20] <R0b0t1> Not I'm on a Mac which must use rEFIt, so *shrug*
[05:20] <plc90210> so I hit enter when the logo at the bottom of the screen came up and it took me to the language options
[05:21] <comulent> people seem to be disconnecting a lot a the moment...... where did my Geeksquid go? I like him/her.
[05:21] <zetheroo> jkoch: better ... but for me at least it's not as good as it once was (before some random update... who knows)
[05:21] <plc90210> anyone know what should i do next?
[05:22] <jammer> anyone know how to get CI media reader working lucid?
[05:22] <comulent> my panel is still blank. I tried   pkill gnome-panel
[05:23] <jkoch> zetheroo: so this is a recent thing to happen? i haven't used ubuntu since version 6.04 i think and that was with a different laptop. i picked a bad computer and time to use ubuntu again huh/
[05:23] <pksadiq> comulent: did you delete something from panel?
[05:23] <pksadiq> !panel | comulent
[05:24] <R0b0t1> Hello, I just used this article to try to fix a problem I was having: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/05/fix-symbol-grubputs-not-found-when.html Sadly, it didn't work. What now?
[05:24] <zetheroo> jkoch: a few months ago Flash was working perfectly for me :P
[05:24] <jkoch> zetheroo: how about desktop effects? will it let you enable em?
[05:24] <zetheroo> jkoch: I have been using Ubuntu on all my machines full-time since 2006
[05:24] <R0b0t1> Oh well, just tried something. Everyone cross your fingers for me.
[05:24] <zetheroo> jkoch: yes, desktop effects are good to go as well ...
[05:25] <jkoch> zetheroo: hmmm it won't let me enable em
[05:25] <chrisA1> Progress!
[05:26] <zetheroo> jkoch: ubuntu 10.10?
[05:26] <jkoch> yeah
[05:26] <zetheroo> jkoch: intel gfx
[05:26] <chrisA1> Ubuntu Server 10.10 installed cleanly, and the 3rd-party realtek driver worked.
[05:26] <jkoch> zetheroo: yes sir
[05:26] <comulent> pksadiq: yep. removed the link to firefox after i installed chrome
[05:27] <chrisA1> So wlan0 shows in both ifconfig and iwconfig, and it's paired with our wireless router, but pinging through it still doesn't work. Any ideas on how to debug this?
[05:27] <zetheroo> jkoch: how old/new is the system?
[05:27] <nawk> I'm having trouble creating a bootable Ubuntu Live Distro on my USB thumb drive
[05:27] <nawk> I've tried both the Universal USB Installer and UltraISO
[05:27] <pksadiq> comulent: I think you did something wrong, if nothing is shown in the pannel, you can add it manually by right clicking > add to panel > select notification area,   and something like that
[05:27] <nawk> both failed to boot
[05:28] <jkoch> zetheroo: it's pretty old. celeron processor, and i upgraded it to 1gb of ram
[05:28] <comulent> pksadiq: !panel | cromulent gives me an error message. bash !panel: event not found
[05:28] <pksadiq> !resetpanel | comulent
[05:28] <apetrescu> What's the best option for someone on Maverick who wants to run a 2.6.37 kernel? Should I compile it myself, is there a PPA for it somewhere, a canonical .deb people use, etc?
[05:28] <zetheroo> jkoch: hmmm ... I recall having issues with older intel hardware in trying to run desktop effects ...
[05:29] <ohzie> Hey guys. Has anyone(successfully) played with hotswapping express cards?
[05:29] <ohzie> Hotplugging?
[05:29] <zetheroo> jkoch: my older systems (IBM Thinkpads) have ATI gfx ... (5+ years old) and they run desktop effects ...
[05:29] <jkoch> zetheroo: the effects don't bother me as much as the general usability of the computer.
[05:29] <iflema> nawk try the USBcreator that is on the livecd
[05:30] <comulent> ubottu:  LOL ---> gnome-panel: no process found.    Perhaps I've killed it and it's just not running. This would probably explain why i can't right click on it huh? =)
[05:30] <zetheroo> jkoch: how is it going otherwise?
[05:30] <jkoch> zetheroo: i used to run desktop effects on a computer i found in the garbage with intergrated ati graphics and 128mb of ram with a pentium 1 processor lolol
[05:31] <ohzie> jkoch: Can I poke you in a PM? I like fiddling with older computers with driver problems.
[05:31] <jkoch> ohzie: sure
[05:31] <nawk> iflema: I don't have a optical drive which is why I'm resorting to burning the iso to my USB drive.  I must say that I've had success burning bootable OS Installers on USB thumb drives
[05:32] <nawk> in the past
[05:32] <zetheroo> jkoch: yeah ... the older ATI hardware worked pretty well ... I remember running Beryl and the likes very nicely on them
[05:33] <WhatWhereAmI> hey, does anybody know why the numpad on my keyboard is moving my mouse around instead of typing numbers?
[05:33] <iflema> nawk is see/hear alot about 'unetbootin' or something similar re. USB
[05:33] <zetheroo> WhatWhereAmI: no idea sorry ... have you Googled the issue?
[05:34] <Gnurdux> has anyone else ever seen something like this nasty seam: http://imagebin.org/129872
[05:34] <manbra> WhatWhereAmI,
[05:34] <KM0201> WhatWhereAmI: system/pref/keyboard preferences.. .click "Mouse keys" tab... and uncheck that box
[05:34] <pksadiq> !unetbootin
[05:34] <manbra> numpad is just arrows keys unless you have numlock on
[05:34] <KM0201> WhatWhereAmI: that has to be one of the dumbest options to have enabled by default, i've ever seen
[05:34] <comulent> ubottu: What's the name of the program that's the side panel in the Netbook 10.10 (unity?)
[05:35] <KM0201> manbra: no.. if you have the numlock key on, and you have that option enabled, no matter what, it controls the mouse cursor
[05:35] <WhatWhereAmI> whooaaaa
[05:35] <comulent> wow. now guess who feels silly. I'm stepping out for a smoke :P
[05:35] <WhatWhereAmI> KM0201, is that seriously the default?
[05:35] <nawk> Universal USB Installer appears to be the one recommended by the Official Ubuntu Download page, but I find that it doesn't do what it says. e.g. After I've selected the option to format the USB Drive, after the program is day, nothing was formatted, i.e. my existing files on the drive remained
[05:35] <KM0201> WhatWhereAmI: sure is.. i ahve no idea why, but it is.
[05:35] <WhatWhereAmI> KM0201, when did that happen?
[05:35] <KM0201> WhatWhereAmI: i noticed it when i installed 10.04...
[05:35] <KM0201> the it happened again when i installed 10.10
[05:36] <nawk> iflema: actually, I do have access to Ubuntu, since my laptop is running that.  Have you had success with USBCreator?
[05:36] <KM0201> WhatWhereAmI: but recently, i installed 10.10 on a friends computer, and it wasn't enabled by default.
[05:36] <WhatWhereAmI> that's nuts.
[05:36] <iflema> nawk yes, many times
[05:36] <plc90210> I tried to install dkms using the terminal and got an error saying its not a debian format archive
[05:37] <KM0201> WhatWhereAmI: i totally agree..
[05:37] <KM0201> WhatWhereAmI: i take ti that fixed your prob
[05:37] <chrisA1> No ideas on troubleshooting wifi?
[05:37] <KM0201> chrisA1: whats your device?
[05:37] <plc90210> I used the command "sudo dpkg -i", do i need to use some other command to install different kinds of files?
[05:37] <WhatWhereAmI> KM0201, yes it did.
[05:37] <WhatWhereAmI> thanks.
[05:37] <KM0201> np.. stupid isn't it?
[05:38] <pksadiq> plc90210: is it a tar archive?
[05:38] <KM0201> WhatWhereAmI: i almost bought a new keyboard first tim around, cuz i thought it was my keyboard.
[05:38] <nawk> okay I'll try that
[05:38] <ZykoticK9> I'd like to disable compiz's shadow effect for a single application (gkrellm in my case) does anyone know if this is possible?
[05:38] <WhatWhereAmI> hah, i have tried two.
[05:38] <KM0201> lol
[05:38] <plc90210> pksadiq: its format is "rpm", whatever that is...
[05:38] <chrisA1> KM0201: realtek RTL-8185.
[05:38] <pksadiq> !rpm | plc90210
[05:39] <plc90210> anyone know where i can download dkms in deb format?
[05:39] <KM0201> chrisA1: 32 or 64bit?
[05:39] <chrisA1> 32.
[05:39] <KM0201> plc90210: it's in the repos isnt it?.. i'm almost positive it is
[05:39] <KM0201> !info dkms
[05:39] <francisco> someone know how to send pidgin & exaile to systray and not to close when click on 'x' under xfce??????
[05:39] <pksadiq> !find dkms | plc90210
[05:39] <KM0201> skunked ya.. :)
[05:39] <chrisA1> KM0201: 32-bit.
[05:40] <pksadiq> plc90210: I think dkms is something related to kernal modules ,
[05:40] <ZykoticK9> pksadiq, it is
[05:40] <iflema> nawk you could also try a manual format of the thumbdrive if all else fails
[05:42] <plc90210> pksadiq: yeah i'm trying to install the bcwl-kernel-source package but i need the dkms package first
[05:43] <pksadiq> plc90210: did you download bcwl-kernel-source package?
[05:43] <berserkerxiii> hey guys, how can i shut down from the command line?
[05:44] <ZykoticK9> berserkerxiii, "sudo shutdown -h now"
[05:44] <plc90210> pksadiq: yeah, and i tried to install it but i got an error saying that i need the dkms package
[05:44] <berserkerxiii> k thanks
[05:45] <berserkerxiii> night guys
 how to progarm aurto shutdown?
[05:45] <pksadiq> go to google and search for bcwl-kernel-source  site:packages.ubuntu.com                             and select the appropriating and there you can see the dependencies, from that download what all are needed
[05:45] <R00teR> I updated ubuntu lucid and now I cant watch videos on youtube, any help? i use firefox and i have in "about:plugins" shockwave on...
[05:46] <ZykoticK9> francisco, i have no idea what "auto shutdown" would mean.
[05:46] <pksadiq> R00teR: which lucid ? 32 bit or 64 bit?
[05:46] <R00teR> 32
[05:46] <WhatWhereAmI> ZykoticK9, i would recommend poweroff instead of shutdown
[05:46] <pksadiq> !flash | R00teR
[05:47] <Sandres> !Gnash
[05:47] <Sandres> gnash..
[05:47] <ZykoticK9> WhatWhereAmI, really?  why?  shutdown is the standard unix/linux command.
[05:47] <R00teR> yes but i also intalled flash
[05:47] <R00teR> and do nothing
[05:48] <KM0201> chrisA1: it seems to be a common problem... most suggest to compile the driver from realtek
[05:48] <WhatWhereAmI> ZykoticK9, also, you're supposed to be able to regex match windows to shadow in the window decoration compiz plugin, but i can't seem to get it to work.
[05:48] <WhatWhereAmI> ZykoticK9, just because it's simpler, sudo poweroff
[05:48] <chrisA1> KM0201: yeah, I did, that's how I got this far. <.<
[05:48] <KM0201> chrisA1: well why didn't you mention that
[05:48] <KM0201> chrisA1: and what happened when you compiled the driver?
[05:49] <ZykoticK9> WhatWhereAmI, ya - yesterday i tried somthing like !(gkrellm) or similar forget the exact syntax
[05:49] <WhatWhereAmI> what's the window you're trying to match?
[05:49] <ZykoticK9> WhatWhereAmI, gkrellm
[05:49] <WhatWhereAmI> you can match by title and window id and junk
[05:50] <Gryllida> Is ``poweroff'' same as ``halt''?
[05:50] <ZykoticK9> WhatWhereAmI, do you know how I could find out what the window id is?
[05:50] <ZykoticK9> Gryllida, yes
[05:50] <chrisA1> KM0201: sorry, I should've been clearer. It installed correctly, with no error messages, and 'sudo ifconfig wlan0 up' started working. As opposed to causing the entire system to freeze.
[05:50] <KM0201> and..?
[05:51] <WhatWhereAmI> ZykoticK9, you could try using the "grab" functionality in the compiz manager, which you can access by hitting the plus next to the shadow field.
[05:51] <WhatWhereAmI> but it only KINDA works...
[05:51] <chrisA1> KM0201: And now it comes up in ifconfig, and pairs successfully with our router, but 'ping -I wlan0 <anything>' returns destination unreachable.
[05:51] <em> does ubuntu-restricted-extras include the w32codecs ?
[05:51] <KM0201> em: yes
[05:52] <KM0201> chrisA1: i really have no idea on that
[05:52] <ozzynotwood_> hello room, would anybody like to help me with editing a .conf file?
[05:52] <chrisA1> KM0201: okay, fair 'nuff, thanks for trying. Back to google for me.
[05:52] <chrisA1> 'night all.
[05:53] <ResQue> Could i please have some help with this command "X :12.0 vt12 2>&1 >/dev/null &". i understand the "x :12.0" is the screen which to run x on and that everything after the second ">" just dumps the output no where. but what is the "vt12 2" and the ">&1" doing. I have already read the x man pages and i am still confused. thanks
[05:54] <Random832> ResQue: 2>&1 makes the error output go the same place as the regular output
[05:55] <Random832> ResQue: and vt12 specifies which alt-Fkey it goes on
[05:55] <francisco> http://www.youtube.com/html5 try it better than flash plaeyr!
[05:56] <nawk> iflema: man, something is really weird.  I try to locate/select by clicking the "other" option, but after selection of the iso in the "open" dialog window, the image selection is not reflected, i.e., nothing selected
[05:56] <ZykoticK9> WhatWhereAmI, thank you.  When I used the grab it came up Gkrellm and not gkrellm, used the ! and now I don't have a shadow.  Thanks man.
[05:56] <WhatWhereAmI> ZykoticK9, np
[05:57] <iLinux> can we bypass sudo password? I'm tired of it.
[05:57] <knoppies> If I delete a symbolic link as sudo, does it delete the directory it links to? it seems to have on my PC.
[05:57] <WhatWhereAmI> iLinux, yeah, technically
[05:57] <knoppies> I cant loose that data.
[05:57] <iLinux> WhatWhereAmI, technically?
[05:57] <WhatWhereAmI> knoppies, what was the command you used?
[05:57] <ZykoticK9> iLinux, bad idea - you shouldn't have to use sudo that often
[05:58] <WhatWhereAmI> iLinux, in that it's probably not a good idea.
[05:58] <knoppies> rm www
[05:58] <knoppies> WhatWhereAmI, sudo rm www
[05:58] <knoppies> I think
[05:58] <WhatWhereAmI> knoppies, it shouldn't
[05:58] <rww> knoppies: that wouldn't remove the target of a symlink
[05:58] <nawk> I'm really going to jump to my Laptop (Ubuntu) to try usbcreator-gtk
[05:59] <knoppies> rww, WhatWhereAmI, I also tried to chgrp the sym link, that is when my directory (the target) seemed to disappear.
[06:00] <joel> joel
[06:00]  * iLinux is away:  iLinux  The Ubuntu Revolution. Working: [ON] - OFF
[06:00] <nit-wit> anybody on here with a hp mini 110 and knows the per-session key prompt for the boot menu
[06:00] <WhatWhereAmI> knoppies, did you chgrp recursively?
[06:00] <keith-> so unity that is on the netbook version is going to become the default?
[06:00] <knoppies> WhatWhereAmI, yes.
[06:00] <rww> ubottu: tell iLinux about away
[06:00] <ZykoticK9> keith-, yes
[06:00] <knoppies> WhatWhereAmI, no. My bad. I did not.
[06:01] <keith-> that is just fantastic. this is a nice setup. much better than the gnome 3 preview i've seen
[06:01] <ohzie> Hey guys how do you switch xorg drivers? This guy is using 'vesa' and he needs to be using 'intel' and 10.10 doesn't have a conf file by default? :(
[06:01] <iLinux> rww: I have already use that command
[06:01] <iLinux> ./away <r>
[06:01] <rww> iLinux: then your client is misconfigured. Please tell it not to echo away messages to the channel.
[06:01] <WhatWhereAmI> knoppies, then it should not have affected the target
[06:01] <knoppies> WhatWhereAmI, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/549003/ The first ls, www works. the second ls, www is gone.
[06:02] <ohzie> rww: But he has to let us know about the ubuntu revolution
[06:02] <knoppies> WhatWhereAmI, the sudo rm www, I have not hit enter yet, so it hasn't done that.
[06:02] <iLinux> ohzie: It's ok. I have some misconfiguration.
[06:03] <iLinux> back to topic.
[06:03] <knoppies> WhatWhereAmI, I found it again. I had cleared the name in the propeties dialog, so it wasn't showing under ls or nautilus. Problem solved.
[06:04] <WhatWhereAmI> good, because i have no idea what you're talking about.
[06:04] <knoppies> WhatWhereAmI, nor do I.
[06:05] <acu_>  what this means  --- I am a bit confused about the root - I wanted www-data to be owner and everything (able to write etc) drwxr-xr-x 13 www-data root  4096 Dec 25 11:24 myfolder
[06:06] <acu_> I want to change FROM  drwxr-xr-x 13 www-data root  4096 Dec 25 11:24 myfolder  TO drwxr-xr-x 5 www-data www-data 4096 Jun 12  2010 myfolder (how can I do that ?
[06:07] <iLinux> what is the kernel for ubuntu lucid?
[06:07] <Besogon> chown
[06:07] <Besogon> ?
[06:07] <Besogon> acu_,
[06:07] <rww> acu_: sudo chgrp www-data myfolder
[06:07] <acu_> got chown - what exactly I shoul do
[06:07] <rww> I think the syntax to do it with chown is "sudo chown :www-data myfolder"
[06:08] <Besogon> acu_, I don't know what chgrp do (chown owner:goup foulder)
[06:08] <ZykoticK9> iLinux, 2.6.32-27-generic
[06:09] <knoppies> Besogon, it changes the group of the permissions of your file/folder
[06:09] <Besogon> aha
[06:10] <iLinux> ZykoticK9: 2.6.32-27-generic ? In my ubuntu is 2.6.32-21-generic. No problem with kernel huh?
[06:10] <acu_> so I should do both chown and chgrp ?
[06:10] <rww> acu_: no, they do the same thing
[06:10] <rww> pick one and roll with it
[06:11] <Guest69138> you could, but chown can do both
[06:11] <acu_> chown did not - it just changed the owner not the group
[06:11] <ZykoticK9> iLinux, i may have a kernel update waiting?  I don't understand your "No problem with kernel huh?" statement.
[06:11] <Besogon> acu_, If you need change only group use chgrp, but if you need change the owner too use chown
[06:12] <Guest69138> there are 2 parameters separated by a ":"
[06:12] <Sandres> !gnash
[06:12] <plc90210> whenever i try to install the bcmwl-kernel source package, I get an error saying i must run a dkms build for kernel 2.6.35-22-generic (i686) first... what does this mean?
[06:12] <rww> acu_: it does if you use the syntax I gave you.
[06:12] <ZykoticK9> acu_, as Guest69138 pointed out - use "chown user:group file_to_alter"
[06:12] <guineapig> I keep getting asked for a password while downloading torrents because one of the trackers resolves to 127.0.0.1 and I have a webserver on that box.  What ip should I redirect the lookup to in hosts?
[06:12] <wers> can OS X and Ubuntu nicely share a partition? if so, what format?
[06:13] <em> are you sure that the w32codcs are in ubuntu-restircted-extras ?
[06:13] <ZykoticK9> wers, fat is probably the easiers - i don't think mac writes to ntfs by default.  and the EXTs are probably out.
[06:13] <KM0201> em: they should be.. what file format are you trying to play?
[06:14] <em> .avi
[06:14] <Guest69138> acu  - If your still stuck try doing a google on how to + chown.  That should give you some examples
[06:14] <ZykoticK9> em, w32codecs is actually a separate medibuntu package non-free-codecs i think.
[06:14] <wers> ZykoticK9: great. would it be fine if I use that shared fat partition as my /home?
[06:14] <acu_> rww: got it done - thanks - chgrp - thank you ZykoticK9  AND Besogon
[06:14] <rww> KM0201: They're not, actually.
[06:14] <KM0201> em: just double click on an .avi, and it will tell you it needs to download a  package.. and let it do it.. it probably is a gstreamer plugin
[06:14] <KM0201> rww: yeah, i just realized that.
[06:15] <ZykoticK9> wers, for /home not a good idea at all!  you'll run into problems.  make a separate shared partition.
[06:15] <wers> ZykoticK9: ok. I'll just have a shared media partition (fat)
[06:16] <plc90210> whenever i try to install the bcmwl-kernel-source package, I get an error saying i "must run a dkms build for kernel 2.6.35-22-generic (i686) first"... what does this mean?
[06:16] <wers> ZykoticK9: how about sharing config files between Ubuntu and OS X? like .firefox? Is there a way to do that?
[06:16] <KM0201> plc90210: is the machine connected to the internet.
[06:17] <plc90210> no
[06:17] <ZykoticK9> wers, i HIGHLY doubt that would work - but might be possible.
[06:17] <KM0201> oh ok.
[06:17] <shawnboy> I can't get key-based ssh to work. Can anyone help?
[06:17] <KM0201> plc90210: look here under "no internet access" it looks like it's ont he CD, if you have it handy.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[06:18] <shawnboy> I created rsa key pair, then uploaded .pub to remote machine's .ssh/authorized_keys
[06:18] <wers> ZykoticK9: ok great. thanks!
[06:18] <ZykoticK9> wers, glad to help
[06:18] <shawnboy> it still asks for my password
[06:19] <jkoch> who was helping me with my problem before? my computer restarted for some reason
[06:19] <plc90210> KM0201: but if it's on the cd, shouldn't it have installed when I installed ubuntu?
[06:19] <KM0201> plc90210: not necessarily.
[06:20] <nawk> Out of curiosity, what happens if I do "sudo apt-get install packagefoo", and there are multiple packages named "packagefoo" from several different repos?
[06:20] <KM0201> plc90210: it's an optional package...
[06:21] <nawk> will apt-get get into a conniption?
[06:21] <MoMo> what is the vnc package i want if I want to VNC from a windows box and control a live session on a unbuntu screen?
[06:21] <KM0201> plc90210: it's a lot easier if you can cable it to a router for about 2min
[06:21] <plc90210> KM0201: I did, still no internet...
[06:21] <nawk> or will it simply/gently ask me (with instructions on how to specify) from which repo I want "packagefoo" froom?
[06:21] <KM0201> plc90210: really?..thats interesting
[06:22] <KM0201> plc90210: what broadcom device do you have, if you don't mind me asking?
[06:22] <Maahes> um, anyone know how to use the aptitude ncurses program? I'm trying to sort packages by their current state flag, but after reading the manual I still am not sure how to go about this (Yes I have to use the ncurses program, I lost X)
[06:22] <plc90210> BCM4311
[06:22] <plc90210> its a really old laptop...
[06:23] <KM0201> plc90210: why don't you just use b43?
[06:23] <zetheroo> BROADCOM ... the joys
[06:23] <KM0201> plc90210: i actually set that device up the other day w/ the b43 driver, and it worked fine
[06:23] <plc90210> how do i set up the b43?
[06:24] <KM0201> plc90210: it's on that same page i gave you the link to.. just scroll down the the "b43" driver.. it's listed to support the 4311.. but if you've already started w/ the STA, might as well finish w/ it
[06:25] <KM0201> plc90210: did you install from cd?
[06:26] <plc90210> KM0201: when it says "something is located on the ubuntu install media under /pool/main/..." what is it referring to?
[06:26] <plc90210> how do i access it from the cd
[06:26] <KM0201> plc90210: do you have an ubuntu live CD, or did you install from USB, or what?
[06:26] <plc90210> i burned it on a cd from the website and used the cd
[06:27] <KM0201> plc90210: ok, "used the cd".. did you use wubi, or did you boot the cd and install?
[06:27] <plc90210> boot the cd and install
[06:27] <KM0201> ok..
[06:27] <KM0201> put the cd in the drive..
[06:27] <plc90210> i did
[06:28] <smoke_> yeah men
[06:28] <smoke_> wtf
[06:28] <smoke_> xD
[06:28] <KM0201> plc90210: ok, do you see an icon on your desktop that say s"ubuntu 10.xx " or something like that?
[06:28] <plc90210> yeah
[06:28] <KM0201> plc90210: ok, double click it
[06:28] <plc90210> done, next?
[06:28] <KM0201> plc90210: before you go much further, did you install the bmcwl-kernel-source ?
[06:29] <KM0201> like it say above?
[06:29] <plc90210> tried to, but the installation failed, i have it downloaded on the desktop though
[06:29] <KM0201> plc90210: ok.. do this.
[06:30] <KM0201> plc90210: go to system/admin/synaptic package manager
[06:30] <plc90210> ok
[06:30] <KM0201> plc90210: ok... now click settings/repositories
[06:30] <KM0201> plc90210: on the first tab under settings/repositories.. make sure at the bottom the "Use CD" box is checked.
[06:30] <secretary_linux> I recently changed the network layout on and around our main server. For some reason now the server is still able to reach itself as one of its old IP addresses. That address, for that matter that entire subnet, is not listed in /etc/network/interfaces, ifconfig, route, or arp. When I ssh to it I'm getting the same signature so I know it's the same box. How can I track down this phantom IP address?
[06:31] <KM0201> plc90210: after you've checked that box... click close, make sure the cd is in the drive, and click "reload"
[06:31] <KM0201> plc90210: you'll get errors because it can't et on the internet, but i'm not concerned about that just yet
[06:32] <plc90210> yep, i got an error after clicking reload
[06:32] <KM0201> plc90210: thats fine.. thats because you're not oonline
[06:32] <KM0201> plc90210: now, make sure the cd is in the drive
[06:32] <KM0201> and in the upper right
[06:32] <plc90210> it is
[06:32] <KM0201> do a search for bcmwl
[06:32] <KM0201> and you should see th e"kernel source" package there, right?
[06:32] <iLinux> Can I Participate in ubuntu?
[06:32] <plc90210> yeah
[06:33] <plc90210> i see it
[06:33] <KM0201> plc90210: does it show installed?(green dot beside it?)
[06:33] <plc90210> nope
[06:33] <KM0201> iLinux: i don't see why not
[06:33] <KM0201> plc90210: right click that package and choose "mark for installation"
[06:33] <ResQue> is it safe to allow any user to start an X session. i think by default only root can start xsession and the GDM service starts it for you. but i want to start another one on a different virtual terminal so i can start a remote x session
[06:33] <KM0201> plc90210: you might get a message that it wants to "mark" some other dependencies...
[06:33] <plc90210> it won't let me click mark for installation
[06:34] <KM0201> huh?
[06:34] <KM0201> it won't let you click it?
[06:34] <plc90210> it will only let me click mark for upgrade, removal, complete removal or properties
[06:34] <plc90210> yeah, it won't let me click it, it's blacked out
[06:34] <KM0201> plc90210: if its "mark for upgrade or removal"... then it's already installed
[06:35] <KM0201> there's no green dot beside it?
[06:35] <zetheroo> I am getting this odd message every time I load up FF : A username and password are being requested by http://localhost:46269. The site says: "bookmarkable-user-auth"
[06:35] <zetheroo> how can I stop this ?
[06:35] <plc90210> no, there's a grey square with an exclamation mark beside it
[06:35] <plc90210> and the ubuntu logo
[06:36] <KM0201> plc90210: did you try to install it from that package you downloaded?
[06:36] <zetheroo> another thing I am wondering is ... why is it that instead of a Ubuntu splash screen while Ubuntu is loading all I see is a black screen?
[06:36] <KM0201> zetheroo: shuttleworth hates splash screens
[06:36] <bonjoyee> how to recover individual mpeg files deleted from a sony handycam?
[06:36] <KM0201> :)
[06:36] <plc90210> yeah, it returned an error saying i need to installed dkms of kernel i686 or something like that
[06:36] <tiox> zetheroo: Might be Plymouth being a douche. Try reinstalling it.
[06:37] <KM0201> plc90210: ok.. right click that, and choose "mark for removal
[06:37] <zetheroo> KM0201: humph
[06:37] <zetheroo> tiox: reinstalling what exactly?
[06:37] <plc90210> ok
[06:37] <tiox> What version of Firefox?
[06:37] <tiox> Erm...
[06:37] <tiox> Ubuntu. Sorry, late.
[06:37] <KM0201> plc90210: now click Apply if you didn't already, and let it uninstall
[06:37] <iflema> zetheroo i find the proprietary drivers dont work... anything else is fine
[06:38] <tiox> I can hardly think. Anyway, try reinstalling Plymouth if you use the more current versions of Ubuntu.
[06:38] <zetheroo> iflema: so depending on the gfx driver one uses you may or may not see a Ubuntu loading screen?
[06:39] <plc90210> KM0201: ok, it's uninstalled
[06:39] <zetheroo> tiox: 10.10
[06:39] <KM0201> plc90210: ok... now.. .again, make sure cd is in the drive
[06:39] <KM0201> and right click it
[06:39] <KM0201> and "mark for insallation"
[06:39] <tiox> Yeah, Plymouth is used as the boot splash screen. Before, I think it was xsplash, but don't take my word on that.
[06:39] <iflema> zetheroo in my experience yes... non proprietary drivers work just fine.
[06:40] <plc90210> right click the cd icon, and click mark for installation? "mark for installation" isn't an option
[06:40] <tiox> I was asking in antoher channel about the user defined session. What is that about, and how can I take advantage of it?
[06:40] <zetheroo> iflema: I'll test that out right now ... I have a laptop with Intel gfx ...
[06:40] <KM0201> plc90210: the cd icon?.. where'd you get that... right click bcmwl-kernel-source
[06:40] <KM0201> in synaptic
[06:40] <plc90210> oh..
[06:41] <plc90210> ok, next?
[06:41] <KM0201> plc90210: basically what we did was remove that broke ass package you installed, and now that we've added the cd repository.. you'll reinstall it, and it should pull everything off the cd for you.
[06:41] <zetheroo> tiox: isn't that where you save the state of your session as it is and then have the ability to boot back into it?
[06:41] <KM0201> plc90210: after you click mark for installation, click apply..
[06:41] <tiox> I am not sure, why i was asking.
[06:42] <tiox> Because I would like to be able to change in gconf what I use as my "Panel" for the user defined session, and keep the Ubuntu Desktop Session as something in case something goes catastrophically wrong.
[06:42] <plc90210> ok, done
[06:42] <KM0201> plc90210: ok, now just to make sure it went ok
[06:42] <KM0201> in the upper right
[06:42] <KM0201> do a search for "fakeroot" and make sure it sinstalled
[06:42] <dexikiix> hey all, its been a while since i used ubby, can someone tell me a quick way to get the close/min/max buttons over to the right side of the title bar?
[06:43] <tiox> dexikiix: Couple ways.
[06:43] <plc90210> that's broken too... i'll fix it
[06:43] <KM0201> ok.
[06:43] <tiox> Install Emerald and use that instead of GTK. Alternatively...
[06:43] <KM0201> go ahead and fix that one
[06:43] <tiox> Press alt+F2 and type in gconf-editor
[06:43] <plc90210> and patch too right?
[06:43] <KM0201> plc90210: same way we did before, remove it, mark for installation, and rreinstall
[06:43] <KM0201> plc90210: yes
[06:43] <tiox> Are you there, dexikiix
[06:43] <tiox> ?
[06:44] <KM0201> plc90210: patch, fakeroot and dkms
[06:44] <glitchd> heres a question for all the linux genius's in here..
[06:44] <dexikiix> tiox: yes i was looking through gconf-editor
[06:44] <tiox> Okay, now let me figure out where to go...
[06:45] <plc90210> patch and dkms had a green dot next to them so i guess they were installed correctly
[06:45] <tiox> Look under apps/metacity and find general.
[06:45] <KM0201> plc90210: ok...
[06:45] <plc90210> ok... next step...
[06:45] <zetheroo>  iflema: just booted into my Intel gfx laptop ... no Ubuntu boot screen either
[06:45] <KM0201> and fakeroot is now installed correctly?
[06:45] <glitchd> Is there a way to make a direct copy of how my system is now, so that when i do mess it up, and i will, trust me, i can just restore it to the working state instead of having to reinstall then find all the stuff i want again??
[06:45] <dexikiix> tiox: i didnt think people still used emerald :p or was that just compiz people don't use?
[06:45] <tiox> Click that, there is something called Button Layout.
[06:45] <plc90210> yeah, fakeroot is now installed correctly
[06:45] <KM0201> plc90210: ok go ahead adn close synaptic
[06:45] <tiox> Replace the current entry with menu:minimize,maximize,close
[06:45] <KM0201> plc90210: then go to system/admin/additional drivers
[06:46] <KM0201> and you should see the STA driver there
[06:46] <tiox> dexikiix: Did you follow along?
[06:46] <plc90210> ok i see it
[06:46] <dexikiix> tiox: yes, so far it switched but has not moved to the right side :p
[06:46] <KM0201> plc90210: highlight it.. and click activate
[06:47] <tiox> Eh?
[06:47] <KM0201> plc90210: then you'll probably have to restart
[06:47] <tiox> It should work immediately.
[06:47] <glitchd> KM0201, look at u helpin everyone i see..lol
[06:47] <dexikiix> tiox: right now those buttons are at top left, and i'd prefer top right
[06:47] <tiox> I know.
[06:47] <KM0201> glitchd: i always help in here...
[06:47] <tiox> Under general, you found button_layout right?
[06:47] <plc90210> KM0201: there is no activate button
[06:47] <dexikiix> tiox: yes
[06:47] <glitchd> KM0201, i noticed, i was commending u, not taking a stab.
[06:47] <KM0201> plc90210: at the bottom.. you don't see "acctivate"
[06:47] <plc90210> nope
[06:47] <KM0201> glitchd: oh ok..lol
[06:48] <plc90210> only help, close, and remove
[06:48] <KM0201> plc90210: do you have the STA driver highlighted?
[06:48] <glitchd> KM0201, u have helped me on a number of occations
[06:48] <plc90210> yeah
[06:48] <iLinux>  hello 
[06:48] <tiox> Hang on a sec then...
[06:48] <zetheroo> reinstalled plymouth but no luck still
[06:48] <glitchd> *occations
[06:48] <tiox> Okay them, try opening terminal, use command gtk-window-decorator --replace
[06:48] <glitchd> KM0201, heres a question for ya
[06:48] <tiox> then*
[06:48] <KM0201> plc90210: try restarting... see if when you come back, you can activate that driver
[06:49] <ox3a> I want to remove Gnome environment and installing kde just customizing ubuntu 10.10. Can anyone suggest me please?
[06:49] <glitchd> KM0201, do u know if there is a way to make a backup of my os, so that when i mess it up, and i will, i can just restore it to the working state that it was in before?
[06:49] <iLinux> ox3a, just change with kubuntu
[06:49] <glitchd> KM0201, packages and all?
[06:49] <tiox> ox3a: Better off installking kubuntu. But if you still want to give it a shot, just choose to install the KDE environment from synaptic.
[06:49] <glitchd> KM0201, i ask this because i have had to reinstall like 4 times in the past 2 days
[06:49] <tiox> Them, log off, and log back into your account with the KDE environment.
[06:49] <KM0201> glitchd: only way i know of to do it, would be to clone the drive.. but that would be a huge pain...
[06:50] <dexikiix> tiox: still on left side, just took out some theming
[06:50] <KM0201> not to mention, take a lot of space.
[06:50] <tiox> This is odd...
[06:50] <glitchd> KM0201, yes, and that is not what i want to do
[06:50] <bullgard4> ox3a: Please install the KDE meta-package. After finishing you can remove GNOME packages step-by-step.
[06:50] <tiox> Okay, dexikiix, I am going to link you to a theme./
[06:50] <KM0201> glitchd: i assume you're asking for something like 'restore points' w/ the Redmond OS's
[06:50] <glitchd> KM0201, i just want to take like a snapshot of the os in the working state
[06:50] <ox3a> tiox, and how to remove complete gnome?
[06:50] <glitchd> KM0201, im in ubuntu 10.04
[06:50] <KM0201> glitchd: i'm not saying there isn't... but not that i know of.
[06:50] <glitchd> KM0201, and i am just tired of setting up the same shit over and over again
[06:51] <tiox> ox3a: Install Kubuntu. It'll be way easier than dealing with the removal of Gnome.
[06:51] <tiox> Or...
[06:51] <glitchd> KM0201, can u point me in the direction of a possible answer maybe?
[06:51] <tiox> Grab a Kubuntu CD image and burn the ISO to CD, boot from CD to check out KDE.
[06:51] <nawk> iflema: is usb-creator a utility specifically for creating Ubuntu Startup Disks, or any other Distro LiveUSB?
[06:51] <glitchd> KM0201, i dont care about the downloads or any of that, just the os system
[06:51] <glitchd> can i maybe burn it to a dvd or somthing?
[06:51] <ox3a> tiox, actually i do not have much idea about kbuntu that if i miss anything in kubuntu
[06:52] <KM0201> glitchd: honestly the best way to do that, would probably be to have /home on a separate partition...
[06:52] <tiox> dexikiix: Go here: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Ambiance_R+%28Ambiance+Right+Side%29?content=123927
[06:52] <tiox> Download that theme.
[06:52] <glitchd> KM0201, how would that help?
[06:52] <bullgard4> ox3a: tiox has given you not a good advice. Too much effort.
[06:52] <KM0201> glitchd: that would save all of your configuration files, etc..
[06:52] <tiox> bullgard4: What you are talking about takes too much effort! P
[06:52] <dexikiix> tiox: btw, the right side of my windows is now populated by some empty boxes and the window menu
[06:52] <tiox> \:P*
[06:52] <tiox> Odd.
[06:53] <frobisher> ox3a look at pinguyos
[06:53] <bullgard4> tiox: What you suggested.
[06:53] <KM0201> plc90210: any luck?
[06:53] <ox3a> frobisher, ?
[06:53] <Maahes> um, anyone know how to use the aptitude ncurses program? I'm trying to sort packages by their current state flag, but after reading the manual I still am not sure how to go about this (Yes I have to use the ncurses program, I lost X)
[06:53] <frobisher> yes
[06:53] <tiox> Try button layout again, except, be sure the only thing in there is menu:minimize,maximize,close dexikiix
[06:53] <ox3a> frobisher, pakage is it?
[06:54] <tiox> bullgard4: It's not terribly much effort if you did this for Ubuntu already.
[06:54] <glitchd> dexikiix, sounds like the wrong words are in the gconf setting for the button layout
[06:54] <plc90210> crap...
[06:54] <glitchd> tiox, sry didnt see u answered the before i did
[06:54] <dexikiix> glitchd: let me check for typos
[06:54] <plc90210> i should have taken the cd out before restarting...
[06:54] <bullgard4> tiox: I disagree.
[06:54] <KM0201> plc90210: lol
[06:54] <ox3a> tiox, any different ubuntu 10.10 and kubuntu 10.10?
[06:54] <glitchd> dexikiix, menu:minimize,maximize,close
[06:54] <frobisher> ox3a PingutOS is a preconfigered ubuntu clone
[06:55] <glitchd> dexikiix, thats what it should say exactly
[06:55] <plc90210> i'll just turn it off, take the cd out, and turn it back on
[06:55] <glitchd> dexikiix, that is if u want the buttons on the right side of the window
[06:55] <dexikiix> ah, somehow missed the word "menu" and just had the stuff after
[06:55] <KM0201> plc90210: it's not code red critical.. no need to go crazy..
[06:55] <dexikiix> works properly now, thank you tiox glitchd
[06:55] <tiox> bullgard4: If you are looking to try out the KDE environment for Ubuntu, best way is with kubuntu. Go to kubuntu.com, download the ISO file. Pop a CD-R into your CD burner, burn the ISO onto disk, reboot with CD in the drive, choose to boot from CD with your boot manager, or through your BIOS, change boot order to have CD run first.
[06:56] <glitchd> KM0201, could i do that with a os that is installed already? or would i have to reinstall again?
[06:56] <tiox> Ubuntu makes this so easy to do.
[06:56] <nawk> My USB flash drive still cannot boot after I've tried using usbcreator.
[06:56] <shawnboy> why am I still being prompted for a password even after putting rsa keys in place for ssh?
[06:56] <ox3a> tiox, and will i get everything of ubuntu in kubuntu?
[06:56] <KM0201> glitchd: ah... honestly, i don't put home on a separate partition, but i *believe* you would have to reinstall and repartition your drive
[06:56] <glitchd> dexikiix, np
[06:56] <nawk> it's stuck at the "SYSLINUX 3.63 Debian-2008-07-15 ...." message
[06:56] <tiox> ox3a: Not entirely. But a lot of things for Ubuntu are gnome-specific.
[06:57] <tiox> A lot of things for kubuntu are KDE-specific.
[06:57] <glitchd> KM0201, ughh:(  ill just wait till i screw this install up to do that
[06:57] <shawnboy> glitchd: you can move to sep home partition without reinstalling
[06:57] <glitchd> KM0201, thank you tho
[06:57] <KM0201> lol
[06:57] <glitchd> shawnboy, do tell..
[06:57] <KM0201> ah see, maybe you don't hae to reinstall
[06:57] <tiox> But you can install (temporarily) live whatever you want to play with using KDE's package manager, which I am not entirely sure what it is.
[06:57] <tiox> Can somenone confirm what it is forme?
[06:58] <shawnboy> well, you could google for it, or I have reproduced others' work on my personal blog.
[06:58] <ox3a> tiox, yeah but such will i miss such as server,database,networking software?
[06:58] <tiox> dexikiix: If you clicked my gnome-look link, you'll want to then extract the theme somewhere. Assume desktop in this case...
[06:58] <KM0201> tiox: if you want kubuntu support, try #kubuntu
[06:58] <harrypotter> hey guys,any good games in ubuntu?
[06:58] <KM0201> harrypotter: not really
[06:58] <KM0201> !games | harrypotter
[06:59] <Gnea> tiox: pretty sure kubuntu uses adept
[06:59] <ox3a> KM0201, kubuntu not support for ubuntu?
[06:59] <KM0201> i think so
[06:59] <tiox> Then, after that extract Ambiance_R, launch terminal, type in sudo mv ~/Desktop/Ambiance_R /usr/share/themes
[06:59] <KM0201> ox3a: no, they're different... #kubuntu for kubuntu, #xubuntu for xubuntu, and so on
[06:59] <Gnea> ox3a: no, they are mutually exclusive as far as operational values are concerned. many tasks between them are in parrallel, but it can be rare
[06:59] <KM0201> plc90210: any joy?
[07:00] <Gnea> parallel*
[07:00] <plc90210> KM0201: yeah, the driver's now activated
[07:00] <KM0201> plc90210: well, thas good
[07:00] <KM0201> can you see wireless networks
[07:00] <tiox> ox3a: It's your best bet to try out kubuntu for the best KDE experience. Some applications in Ubuntu will break using Gnome apps unless there are KDE-supported Gnome applications.
[07:00] <plc90210> yep
[07:00] <KM0201> plc90210: well sing the hallelujah chorus
[07:00] <plc90210> now the pain of trying to connect to the wireless network begins
[07:01] <KM0201> plc90210: that should be fairly simple.
[07:01] <KM0201> plc90210: why do you think that would be difficult?
[07:01] <ox3a> tiox, i am worry if i miss very nice tools of ubuntu in kubuntu. Will it?
[07:01] <Gnea> tiox, ox3a: actually, you can run many KDE applications just fine in Ubuntu, as it will automatically install kde library support for them. the applications that will likely fail are those requiring the K environment to be running
[07:01] <TULeGiT> wow
[07:01] <tiox> ox3a: We're just trying to say, you are better off trying Kubuntu for Ubuntu+KDE so you don't break Ubuntu trying to remove Gnome in favor for KDE.
[07:01] <XiaolinDraconis> im trying to make a rescue/emergency bootable usb stick
[07:02]  * KM0201 thinks KDE is pretty close to a Linux virus
[07:02] <plc90210> KM0201: it's a really old laptop that's had issues with this in the past
[07:02] <KM0201> plc90210: uh.. ok
[07:02] <tiox> And, beside that, you can install the KDE environement and pick it from your login screen.
[07:02] <Gnea> KM0201: less so than gnome, IMHO ;)
[07:02] <tiox> environment*
[07:02] <TULeGiT> ... wtf
[07:02] <XiaolinDraconis> the first time i tried it worked just fine
[07:02] <KM0201> Gnea: elitist!.. :)
[07:02] <ox3a> KM0201, kde is more fast
[07:02] <Gnea> KM0201: hey now, I prefer E17 :)
[07:02] <KM0201> ox3a: i guess thats in the eye of the beholder... i hate KDE... it is WAY slower on my systems than gnome
[07:03] <XiaolinDraconis> but i erased it so i could make it a ext4 fs and it didnt work
[07:03] <KM0201> ox3a: not to mention it looks like my 6yr old broke out his crayola's to design it
[07:03] <XiaolinDraconis> so i erased it again and went back to fat16 and it still wont work
[07:03] <tiox> KM0201: If hsi PC can run it, don't knock it yet.
[07:03] <Gnea> ox3a: actually, XFCE and E17 beat KDE and Gnome as far as speed, memory usage and optimization are concerned
[07:03] <tiox> his*
[07:03] <ox3a> KM0201, OK
[07:03] <KM0201> tiox: i hate it...
[07:03] <XiaolinDraconis> im following the exact same steps as before
[07:03] <KM0201> Gnome is fine, really like lxde
[07:03] <tiox> I should try XFCE some time.
[07:04] <Gnea> you can run E17 on a 486 and even earlier Pentium I and II systems these days, can't say the same for gnome or kde
[07:04] <KM0201> xfce is ok... but honestly, w/ xfce4(at least on ubuntu) it is just as bloated as gnome.
[07:04] <ox3a> tiox, Will i able to install all tools of ubuntu in kubuntu?
[07:04] <shcherbak> KM0201: i have designed t-shits with slogan Renove your Xservers! Can reband it for you... deKDE yourselfs
[07:04] <tiox> ox3a: Some, maybe. Like Firefox.
[07:04] <tiox> Wait...
[07:04] <ox3a> tiox, ok
[07:05] <KM0201> shcherbak: lol, clever
[07:05] <shcherbak> *REmove*
[07:05] <Gnea> heh, firefox doesn't require gnome
[07:05] <tiox> Confirm this one people: If he installs the KDE environment, he can still use his GNome tools right?
[07:05] <Gnea> tiox: there are KDE tools he can use in place of them
[07:05] <KM0201> and they'd probably be more efficient
[07:05] <tiox> But, he wants to know if he can still use all of the tools he's grown use to using Gnome.
[07:06] <Gnea> it depends on the tool
[07:06] <XiaolinDraconis> ox3a, most of the tools are there. and if you want a really bloated system you can run gnome and kde at the same time
[07:06] <tiox> I think he can, since e17 was pretty nice with using some Gnome things.
[07:06] <tiox> rofl
[07:06] <Gnea> having a list would be a more efficient way of asking, otherwise he'll need to dive in and try
[07:06] <KM0201> plc90210: so what problem are you having connecting to networks?
[07:06] <Gnea> tiox: indeed, but even then it's not going to run gnome applets and such
[07:07] <plc90210> it can't connect to my home network
[07:07] <tiox> ox3a: Just download Kubuntu from kubuntu.com, burn it to CD and boot from CD.
[07:07] <KM0201> plc90210: can you log into your router, and set it to broadcast for a few minutes?
[07:07] <XiaolinDraconis> ox3a, or use grubs ability to boot from iso
[07:07] <tiox> With KDE, you do have to change how you use your machine quite a bit.
[07:07] <ox3a> XiaolinDraconis, actually i am trying to make it own distro and i was used kde for long term
[07:07] <tiox> XiaolinDraconis: Let's not confuse him. I always use my PC's ability to boot before system POST.
[07:08] <Gnea> I've always thought of switching GUIs as a way of learning how to use the OS better
[07:08] <ox3a> XiaolinDraconis, In kde menu editing is very easy
[07:08] <KM0201> plc90210: when you say it "can't connect to your network".. what exactly do you mean?
[07:08] <plc90210> well I can identify it and am able to try to connect to it and it tries to connect for a while, but then it says it disconnected
[07:08] <XiaolinDraconis> ox3a, its a real nice setup i havent used it for long tho just a couple days
[07:09] <Gnea> I've used Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu and all are fairly well put together
[07:09] <KM0201> plc90210: ok....
[07:09] <XiaolinDraconis> ox3a, i like the way it looks and feels
[07:09] <KM0201> plc90210: can you log into your router?
[07:09] <plc90210> ... how do i do that?
[07:09] <KM0201> hmm
[07:09] <KM0201> 192.168.1.1 usually
[07:09] <KM0201> try disabling security, and see if you can connect
[07:09] <[thor]> or 0.1
[07:09] <XiaolinDraconis> ox3a, i downloaded the kde desktop package from repos and made a new user to log into kde session with
[07:10] <tiox> ox3a: I find Gnome menu editing very easy too. Can you explain why you want to make the switch?
[07:10] <shawnboy> why isn't passwordless ssh working for me?
[07:11] <ox3a> XiaolinDraconis, what will be the best for me (already tiox told about kubuntu)?
[07:11] <Gnea> shawnboy: probably because you're not doing it right
[07:11] <shawnboy> thanks Gnea
[07:12] <XiaolinDraconis> ox3a, depends on what you like
[07:12] <Gnea> shawnboy: so what method are you trying to use?
[07:12] <XiaolinDraconis> ox3a, i would say since you already know gnome then stick with it
[07:12] <shawnboy> i've done it before but it's not working this time, Gnea.
[07:13] <XiaolinDraconis> ox3a, i waited a year before trying kde
[07:13] <shawnboy> Gnea: I have openssh-server installed... generated keys.
[07:13] <Gnea> shawnboy: you'll need to be more specific than that, please.
[07:13] <XiaolinDraconis> ox3a, i wanted to get comfortable with my new desktop
[07:13] <ox3a> XiaolinDraconis, I like ubuntu all package but problem is i do not like gnom envro
[07:13] <shawnboy> Gnea: then put the pub key in the remote machines authorized_keys file under .ssh
[07:13] <XiaolinDraconis> ox3a, what dont you like about it?
[07:13] <tiox> ox3a also needs to be more specific with what applications for Gnome he wants to carry over into KDE.
[07:13] <Gnea> shawnboy: sounds right..
[07:13] <shawnboy> Gnea: shouldn't that be it?
[07:14] <Gnea> shawnboy: it should be. did you follow this tutorial? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30709
[07:14] <tiox> As i said before, install the KDE environment. Do NOT remove Gnome, since the login window is a part of the Gnome environment.
[07:14] <ox3a> XiaolinDraconis, actually i am using kde since 4 years
[07:15] <ox3a> XiaolinDraconis, Now it very fun for me
[07:15] <tiox> If you remove GDM, you'll need to specify from TTY your login, and what environment to log into. Meaning, you'll pretty much be booting into a terminal.
[07:15] <shawnboy> Gnea: I'll look at it. I did exactly what I said, nothing more nothing less. I'll look at that link, though. thanks.
[07:15] <shcherbak> tiox: gdm can be replaced too, with kdm (for frustrated)
[07:15] <Gnea> tiox: don't forget, the kubuntu-desktop will actually install kdm
[07:15] <XiaolinDraconis> i installed kdm and still use gnome session
[07:15] <tiox> Oh?
[07:16] <XiaolinDraconis> yeah it came with the package
[07:16] <XiaolinDraconis> kinda a pain to switch back n forth tho
[07:16] <Gnea> shawnboy: yeah, never know if maybe there was a small step missed, I've done that before
[07:16] <ox3a> tiox, can you tell me  about uck?
[07:16] <tiox> So, he can install the KDE environment, uninstall GDM, log in using K's login screen and using adept, remove all things Gnome?
[07:16] <XiaolinDraconis> yep
[07:16]  * tiox scratches his head
[07:16] <Gnea> in theory
[07:16] <XiaolinDraconis> dont forget to switch to kdm first tho
[07:16] <ox3a> tiox, yea all thing
[07:17] <dexikiix> hey im back... may have seen this coming, but i need help w/ flash, im 64-bit
[07:17] <shcherbak> tiox: it is a bit messy, but yes
[07:17] <tiox> Huh. Well, as I said ox3a, and I will breathlessly advocate this method.
[07:17] <Gnea> !flash | dexikiix
[07:17] <tiox> Burn kubuntu to disk and try it out.
[07:17] <XiaolinDraconis> he said he used it for 4 years
[07:17] <tiox> Oh.
[07:17] <Gnea> yeah
[07:18] <tiox> Well... I missed that.
[07:18] <XiaolinDraconis> ox3a, have you tried lxde
[07:18] <ox3a> tiox, there is a option for kde env (Just i wanna customize my ubuntu)
[07:18] <Gnea> :)
[07:18] <ox3a> XiaolinDraconis, no
[07:18] <tiox> So yeah. Try installing the KDE environment and switch to KDM, log in with it and kill Gnome off.
[07:19] <XiaolinDraconis> ox3a, it uses half the resources as kde and gnome
[07:19] <shcherbak> ox3a: go for awesome, wired, but less than xmonad
[07:19] <tiox> But, mind you, kubuntu is preconfigured with all the K apps you'll want, and you can install what's missing later.
[07:19] <XiaolinDraconis> ox3a, do you just want to make your gnome look better?
[07:20] <ox3a> XiaolinDraconis, tiox will it any harm for operating sys if i install only kdm?
[07:20] <tiox> I feel a few of us should invite ox3a into a special ad-hoc channel so we can offset his questioning away from here, and allow others to ask questions without being lost in a flurry of stuff to him
[07:20] <shawnboy> Gnea: I'm back. thanks for help.
[07:21] <shawnboy> Gnea: things are working in ssh again ... passwordless.
[07:21] <tiox> ox3a: Nope.
[07:21] <tiox> Just do it right.
[07:21] <tiox> I cannot help you with this because I have no interest in replacing with K, nor have I ever replaced Gnome with K
[07:21] <shawnboy> now, does ANYONE have FreeNX working?
[07:22] <XiaolinDraconis> ox3a, nope im using kdm now cause i found an awesome theme for it
[07:22] <XiaolinDraconis> ox3a, http://img10.imageshack.us/i/screenshotmni.png/
[07:22] <KM0201> shawn146: whats freenx?
[07:22] <KM0201> !freenx
[07:22] <shawnboy> KM0201: you mean shawnboy? FreeNX is remote desktop app that actually works.
[07:22] <KM0201> for soem reason i'm ok here in IRC, and I'm playing online poker w/o issue, and i'm chatting w/ Pidgin.. by my web browser isn't wrking.. go figure
[07:23] <ox3a> XiaolinDraconis, kdm?(very nice)
[07:23] <XiaolinDraconis> uncheck work offline.... lol
[07:23] <XiaolinDraconis> ox3a, kdm is the login screen
[07:23] <XiaolinDraconis> ox3a, thats a gnome session
[07:23] <KM0201> XiaolinDraconis: i wish it were that easy
[07:23] <tiox> Just mind, if you remove Gnome, you'll also take out some Gnome-related apps, and things will get broken along the way, whatever may reside on your system that REQUIRED Gnome after removal
[07:23] <shawnboy> the Ubuntu documentation is a little lacking. i did it all, but don't know how to set it up, administer it, or connect.
[07:24] <XiaolinDraconis> ox3a, tiox is absolutely right dont remove gnome that way
[07:25] <tiox> XiaolinDraconis: I was just using some generic common sense. I was not entirely sure if I was right or not, but I was pretty sure of what I was saying.
[07:25] <andisjava> scan
[07:26] <ox3a> tiox, I was made a iso file after installed kde in ubuntu(and i also added my 1.5 gb compiled software)But i was took 2.5 gb and remastersys did not make it properly
[07:26] <tiox> Huh.
[07:26] <[thor]> is it possible to download all of the packages of an Ubuntu Software Center category ( Games, for example ) as .deb files using the CLI ?
[07:27] <tiox> You should just be able to, in the GNome environment anyway, open up burn:///, put the ISo in the burn dir and choose to write to disk.
[07:27] <XiaolinDraconis> ox3a, its hard to get remastersys to make a good size disk
[07:27] <Ormie> !eee
[07:27] <XiaolinDraconis> ox3a, remastersys makes a new live iso based on your installed desktop
[07:27] <tiox> Brasero should ne able to handle the rest.
[07:28] <tiox> be*
[07:28] <XiaolinDraconis> he's not being very clear what he actually wants
[07:28]  * KM0201 hates brasero
[07:28] <Voa> Hello Happy new year
[07:28] <Voa> test 1  2 3
[07:28] <Maahes> um, anyone know how to use the aptitude ncurses program? I'm trying to sort packages by their current state flag, but after reading the manual I still am not sure how to go about this (Yes I have to use the ncurses program, I lost X)
[07:28] <ox3a> XiaolinDraconis, Yeah i also wanting to make a installable iso from my installed system
[07:28] <Maahes> [thor]: yes with aptitude, its pretty easy
[07:28] <XiaolinDraconis> happy (almost) new year
[07:29] <shawnboy> nobody has experience with FreeNX?
[07:29] <KM0201> shawnboy: got experience w/ FreeNas... nothing w/ FreeNX though..lol
[07:29] <ox3a> XiaolinDraconis, But remastersys does not work properly perhaps if the size is big
[07:29] <cryptodira> hi folks, toshiba satellite, amd chipset 64 bit, triple core phenom, ubuntu 10.04 only.... problem: screen brightness keys work both up and down, but invoking them causes one of the cores to go to 100% requiring a reboot to fix.... anyone have a solution to the core maxing out?
[07:29] <XiaolinDraconis> ox3a, make a new partition and install a fresh copy
[07:29] <XiaolinDraconis> ox3a, and remastersys works just fine
[07:30] <Ormie> I have a problem about My EEE PC
[07:30] <m_> Happy New Year.. XiaolinDraconis :) Since i dont know how long i will be here online
[07:30] <tiox> XiaolinDraconis: Forget that, I want him to burn an ISO and try from CD first, so he doesn't end up breaking GRUB.
[07:30] <tiox> UNless, he already did, and I am too fracking tired.
[07:30] <XiaolinDraconis> gotta break sme eggs to make an omelet
[07:31] <Maahes> XiaolinDraconis: question, will remastersys make a new install capable of being installed as a live USB? I.e., compressed read only kernel, busybox, loading things up into ram instead on the disk.
[07:31] <ox3a> XiaolinDraconis, mkdir?
[07:31] <Ormie> Total Hard disk Capacity 4.0 GB Used: 2.6 GB FREE: 908 MB!!! And it reports low disk space
[07:31] <XiaolinDraconis> Maahes, if you can make a bootable iso off your livecd then yeah
[07:32] <Maahes> Ormie: That's low disk space, I can generate 130mb's in logs every few days
[07:32] <XiaolinDraconis> Maahes, i mean bootable usb from the livecd
[07:32] <Ormie> Maahes: How??
[07:32] <XiaolinDraconis> ox3a, what are you asking?
[07:32] <Maahes> Ormie: 20+IRC channels on all the time
[07:33] <tiox> Ormie: Try using another USB drive and symlink to it. I don't know the finer details, so ask help about symlinking another drive here.
[07:33] <tiox> It just means you'd need two USB ports every time you boot into Ubuntu.
[07:33] <tiox> Other than that...
[07:33] <Maahes> Also, if you don't watch it, a week or so of watching a lot of multimedia on your install will use up a lot of space
[07:33] <XiaolinDraconis> Ormie, google about moving home folder to new partition
[07:33] <sacarlson> Maahes: is it an eeepc?
[07:33] <tiox> Maune you can clone your current filesystem onto a larger one in the future.
[07:34] <tiox> I ran Ubuntu on an 8GB USB drive with no problem.
[07:34] <Maahes> and then you download a few pdf's, some source packages, and soon you have like 200mb's left
[07:34] <XiaolinDraconis> Maahes, delete the tmp every now n again
[07:34] <Maahes> sacarlson: no.
[07:35] <tiox> I have a funny question...
[07:35] <sacarlson> Maahes: I dought in your case but the eeepc had hiden partition so you could do full recover to factory spec
[07:35] <chris_openbsd> what do you think is faster on an intel atom cpu? 32 bit or 64 bit ubuntu?
[07:35] <tiox> The ubuntu webpage still supplies 10.10 up front, yet, I have11.04?
[07:35] <lc> #ubuntu-cn
[07:36] <XiaolinDraconis> tiox, i heard that was a mistake its not really 11.04
[07:36] <tiox> Shouldn't Canonical always keep the latest version on the front page?
[07:36] <XiaolinDraconis> tiox, just says it is
[07:36] <Maahes> XiaolinDraconis: it's not in /tmp/ and the program you want to use is logrotate
[07:36] <tiox> "You are using Ubuntu 11.04 - the Natty Narwhal - released in April 2011 and supported until October 2012."
[07:36] <tiox> rofl
[07:36] <ZykoticK9> tiox, you could have 11.04 installed, it's the current development release
[07:36] <Inf0del> i'm actually nervous about them dropping gnome
[07:36] <Inf0del> on the next release
[07:36] <voidmage> does maverick use xi2?
[07:37] <KM0201> ZykoticK9: no, for some reason, ubuntu 10.10 says that in about ubuntu
[07:37] <Ormie> XiaolinDraconis: I don't have money to buy an At Home External 80 GB Seagate SATA USB 2.0 External Hard disk :( I spend too much on 1 EEE Computer) And this is holidays  so i don't go to work and earn some money :(
[07:37] <tiox> They are?
[07:37] <tiox> Ubuntu shouldn't be dropping Gnome...
[07:37] <Inf0del> why not?
[07:37] <KM0201> tiox: that won't happenanytime soon
[07:37] <Maahes> Inf0del: eh? No they're not. just Ubiquity will be used by default and not Gnome Shell
[07:37] <ZykoticK9> Inf0del, there is a "use classic" as a login choice for the old gnome ;)
[07:37] <Ormie> For the Extra Space
[07:37] <Inf0del> yay!
[07:37] <ZykoticK9> KM0201, it already has
[07:37] <gobbe> tiox: that's bug
[07:37] <KM0201> ZykoticK9: what, dropping gnome?
[07:37] <ZykoticK9> KM0201, yup
[07:37] <ox3a> tiox, there is a package "kde-full". Will it do?
[07:38] <gobbe> tiox: some packets trigger documentation to change version to 11.04
[07:38] <KM0201> ZykoticK9: how do you figure?
[07:38] <tiox> Sure will.
[07:38] <Maahes> It's not dropped gnome
[07:38] <Maahes> It still uses all gnome services in the background
[07:38] <ZykoticK9> KM0201, they're switching Ubuntu-Desktop to use Unity
[07:38] <XiaolinDraconis> ox3a, yes that installs kde but after you download and install it make  a new user
[07:38] <Maahes> and many default gnome programs
[07:38] <KM0201> ZykoticK9: you mean that horrible looking netbook OS
[07:38] <Inf0del> <3 gnome
[07:38] <tiox> KM0201: Will Ubuntu Desktop Edition on my system still use Gnome?
[07:39] <ZykoticK9> KM0201, yup
[07:39] <Maahes> ZykoticK9: that's not "dropping gnome" that's not using 1 program that's in the gnome standard base, almost every gnome distro around does this.
[07:39] <KM0201> ZykoticK9: eh, i dont see that happening
[07:39] <ZykoticK9> KM0201, it already has - try 11.04
[07:39] <Maahes> KM0201: no he's right about Ubiquity being on by default in the next release.
[07:39] <Inf0del> believe it
[07:39] <XiaolinDraconis> i just read it will still have gnome-panel you just have to start the service yourself
[07:39] <wyclif> yo
[07:39] <KM0201> ZykoticK9: i'm sure it can be disabled.
[07:39] <tiox> Ack.
[07:39] <gobbe> KM0201: of course, it's linux
[07:39] <ZykoticK9> KM0201, there is a "classic" login option
[07:39] <gobbe> KM0201: you can do what ever you want
[07:40] <ox3a> XiaolinDraconis, You mean , I should make a new user after finishing install kde-full ?
[07:40] <Maahes> yes it can be disabled. You can run Gnome Shell too, if you like, or not run either (which is what I do)
[07:40] <XiaolinDraconis> ox3a, yes
[07:40] <tiox> God dammit... so they're going to change what loads as panel?
[07:40] <KM0201> ZykoticK9: i realy don't care, i use debian.. but i think that would bea bad move on ubuntus part.
[07:40] <tiox> If that is the case, then it's a simple gconf edit for me.
[07:40] <XiaolinDraconis> ox3a, use a new user to login to kde session
[07:40] <ox3a> XiaolinDraconis, I see
[07:41] <XiaolinDraconis> ox3a, if you dont it change all your default apps to kde stuff when you switch back
[07:41] <tiox> Hold on. I want people to explain this one to me.
[07:41] <tiox> When I upgrade Ubuntu, what's gonna happen?
[07:41] <nawk> Can someone please help me my problem with the Ubuntu USB Startup Disk?
[07:41] <Maahes> tiox: eh, ui stuff doesn't bother me as much, its that the internals of ubuntu keep changing pretty fast, makes it hard to remember how to do things (like for instance when there's no more xorg.conf, etc.
[07:41] <Inf0del> yur gonna get ubuntu's netbook interface
[07:41] <nawk> after making the startup disk (the ubuntu liveusb)
[07:41] <ZykoticK9> tiox, i doubt upgrades have been considered/tested much - but the default interface will be Unity
[07:41] <Maahes> nawk: state your problem
[07:42] <tiox> But everything else will still be Gnome, right?
[07:42] <XiaolinDraconis> tiox, you lose gnome panel and get that unity stuff and it doesnt have panel applets or anything good
[07:42] <ZykoticK9> tiox, ya
[07:42] <tiox> So it's a gconf edit.
[07:42] <ox3a> XiaolinDraconis, And if i use remastersys in new user then will the remastersys work fine(Very important making a my personal distro ubuntu base)
[07:42] <Franoculator> ok, got a problem.  Rebooted my PC, and everything in /home is as it was on October 27.  ext4 partition.
[07:42] <Maahes> Unity is just an interface, it has nothing to do specifically with the gnome-desktop specification
[07:42] <Franoculator> I have the data backed up, that's not a problem.
[07:42] <Franoculator> but what the hell happened to my disk?
[07:42] <XiaolinDraconis> ox3a, no because it will be too big
[07:42] <tiox> I certainly hope it's JUST that. But the update should make the interface change an option.
[07:42] <nawk> It fails to boot, it is stuck at the "SYSLINUX 3.63 Debian-2008-07-15 EBIOS..."
[07:43] <nawk> message
[07:43] <supaplex> how can I pin only kernel images/headers/etc from maverick on karmic?  I tried using -10 as the preference for a=maverick, but aptitude safe-upgrade shows it's going to try upgrading 400mb of packages. (not what I expect; no kernel* specifics in preferences yet)
[07:43] <ox3a> XiaolinDraconis, So?
[07:43] <Maahes> tiox: it does "use classic" also it's pretty easy to uninstall
[07:43] <ox3a> XiaolinDraconis, way?
[07:43] <tiox> Alright.
[07:43] <XiaolinDraconis> ox3a, you need to do that with a virtual machine or make a new partition and install a second ubuntu
[07:43] <nawk> Maahes, following that it's got a message saying "Unknown keyword in configuration file."
[07:43] <Maahes> supaplex: I recommend using synaptic's interace.
[07:43] <tiox> Because I have AWN set up how I want it.
[07:43] <nawk> "boot:"
[07:44] <nawk> that's all
[07:44] <Franoculator> dammit I'm freaking out here.
[07:44] <ox3a> XiaolinDraconis, Can explain what to do after making new partition?
[07:44] <XiaolinDraconis> tiox, u should keep AWN when u upgrade that should stay the same
[07:44] <Maahes> well it means one of your boot files is corrupted, did you just make this usb-install?
[07:45] <nawk> Maahes yes, I used usbcreator
[07:45] <XiaolinDraconis> ox3a, install a new ubuntu just like you did when u first installed it. only this time choose the empty partition
[07:45] <ox3a> XiaolinDraconis, i have 1.5 gb downloaded software to add(and need set these as default for every install time)
[07:45] <XiaolinDraconis> ox3a, you have to burn that to a bootable dvd
[07:45] <ox3a> XiaolinDraconis, Yeah I installed it today
[07:45] <Maahes> nawk: I can't comment on that, I use the pendrive linux creator. I recommend checking the md5 sum of your image to see if it matches the online md5 sum, and then reinstalling
[07:46] <supaplex> Maahes: and I can be that specific with synaptic? I want the majority of the system to remain with karmic for now, but this laptop has serious dain brammage if it's not running at least 2.6.35 and acpi=copy_dsdt cmdline for the kernel.
[07:46] <ox3a> XiaolinDraconis, thats why i am trying to remove all the package without kde
[07:46] <XiaolinDraconis> ox3a, i recommend you try VMware Player
[07:46] <nawk> Maahes: how do I check the md5 sum of the downloaded iso?
[07:47] <supaplex> nawk: md5sum spiffy.iso
[07:47] <Maahes> supaplex: you go and do a force version (it gives you a drop down menu), then once you've forced versions, after that, pin them all
[07:47] <Maahes> there's an md5 program installed in ubuntu by default isn't there?
[07:47] <chris_openbsd> nawk: md5 <file>
[07:47] <XiaolinDraconis> ox3a, it lets you boot up a fake hdd and install to that. all you need is to download the kde iso and use it with VMware Player
[07:48] <Maahes> nawk: you should have a program called md5sum on your computer, if not install it
[07:48] <dhanijeremy> has anyone here used Guitar Rig?
[07:48] <chris_openbsd> nawk: or openssl md5 <file>
[07:48] <Maahes> and all you do is run it from the command line ~%md5sum /path/to/image
[07:48] <ox3a> XiaolinDraconis, If i install kubuntu then it wont be hug size?
[07:48] <XiaolinDraconis> Maahes, i use a script pack i got off gnome-look.org it lets you right click and create or compare md5's
[07:49] <nawk> chris_openbsd, it appears md5sum is from the 'coreutils' package
[07:49] <Maahes> XiaolinDraconis: if you can link him to that, that would work too.
[07:49] <XiaolinDraconis> ox3a, google about installing kde in VMware player
[07:49] <chris_openbsd> nawk: you should have the openssl command
[07:50] <Maahes> I thought coreutils was installed by default? eh.
[07:50] <chris_openbsd> nawk: openssl md5 test.iso
[07:50] <Franoculator> anybody have any advice?  Did I just get screwed by ext4?
[07:50] <ox3a> XiaolinDraconis, But i don't have the vmware software/os
[07:52] <XiaolinDraconis> ox3a, then get it its very useful for trying new OS and testing software
[07:52] <XiaolinDraconis> nawk, i think this is the script pack i am referring to  http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Nautilus+Scripts+Pack?content=90330
[07:57] <nawk> Maahes, chris_openbsd the md5sum generated matches the one published on online
[07:57] <chris_openbsd> nawk: gratulations
[07:57] <chris_openbsd> did you use openssl?
[07:57] <k_> Good Morning
[07:58] <chris_openbsd> good morning
[07:58] <mitzed> goo morning
[07:58] <k_> Happy new Year :p
[07:58] <Doinkle> +1
[07:59] <mitzed>  not alredy K_
[07:59] <nawk> chris_openbsd, yes.  As Maahes mentioned, one of the boot files is probably corrupted. But the thing is I've tried to create a Ubuntu LiveUSB using many different tools including usb-creator.  I guess my last try would be pendrive linux
[07:59] <k_> I am Brzilian not speak english very good
[08:01] <dhanijeremy> i need help please...
[08:01] <Maahes> nawk: I've heard that people having trouble with the ubuntu methods frankly most often have better luck with pendrive-linux's installer
[08:01] <mitzed> what you need dhanijeremy
[08:01] <Maahes> k_: Welcome, though if you prefer there is an ubuntu in spanish, and one in portuguese as well
[08:01] <jimblah> telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl  star wars in a terminal in ascii
[08:01] <dhanijeremy> mitzed: i'm trying to run IMVU on ubuntu..
[08:01] <nawk> Maahes is it in the repo?
[08:01] <dexikiix> can someone tell me how to stop these popups in the top right from coming up with every IM?
[08:01] <Maahes> nawk: no, its a windows program
[08:02] <Maahes> dexikiix: aptitude uninstall notify-osd
[08:02] <mitzed> what is imvu
[08:02] <k_> maahes: thank you :)
[08:02] <Maahes> !es
[08:03] <rww> !pt
[08:03] <dexikiix> Maahes: i don't want it gone completely, just not EVERY TIME i get an IM
[08:03] <dhanijeremy> mitzed: I installed it via Playonlinux and managed to run the program but it froze after a while.. how do i fix this?
[08:03] <dexikiix> Maahes: maybe only on new windows or something? im on pidgin btw
[08:03] <nawk> Maahes you don't mean the Universal USB Installer program do you?:
[08:03] <Maahes> dexikiix: then reinstall notification after you remove it, and libnotify, notifcation daemon is customizeable, notify-osd is not
[08:03] <Maahes> nawk: Yes.
[08:03] <dexikiix> Maahes: thanks
[08:05] <k_> Obrigado ubottu :)
[08:05] <dexikiix> Maahes: "unknown command uninstall"?
[08:05] <nawk> Maahes: that is the worst one I've come across.  You know that there is a checkbox which you could select to format the drive?  It doesn't format the drive even after i've checked/selected it.
[08:05] <nawk> its so weird
[08:05] <Inf0del> -remove
[08:05] <mitzed> pls wait  a moment dhanijeremy
[08:05] <Inf0del> not uninstall
[08:05] <dhanijeremy> mitzed: okay
[08:06] <dexikiix> thanks Inf0del
[08:08] <Inf0del> *tips hat*
[08:08] <dexikiix> Inf0del: do you happen to know how to customize this notification?
[08:09] <Maahes> dexikiix: oh command is remove, I was meaning "uninstall it with synaptic (which is an aptitude front end)
[08:10] <glick> hi is there an off topic japanese  ubuntu chanel?
[08:11] <dexikiix> Maahes: thats okay, how do i customize this new one?
[08:11] <mitzed> dhanijeremy  u installed it from  ubuntu softwre center?
[08:12] <voidmage> how do i know if ubuntu is using xinput2?
[08:12] <Maahes> dexikiix: for that I have to tell you to either read the man page or do some google searching (I think there's a gtk app that allows you to customize notifications) cause I dunno
[08:12] <Inf0del> may i paste links in the main?
[08:12] <KM0201> Inf0del: so long as they are relevant
[08:12] <Maahes> Inf0del: so long as they're not offensive, and you're not advertising
[08:12] <glick> is there a ubuntu offtopic japanese channel?
[08:12] <Inf0del> dexikiix, https://launchpad.net/indicator-applet
[08:12] <KM0201> glick i don't think so
[08:12] <Inf0del> that might help you
[08:13] <Maahes> Indicator applet doesn't do what he wants to do
[08:13] <Maahes> the thing he's having an issue with is notify-osd
[08:13] <Inf0del> oh
[08:13] <Inf0del> my bad
[08:13] <Inf0del> misunderstood
[08:14] <Maahes> ubuntu insisting on notify osd shows you can produce a mountain of garbage data and drive it behind a bad idea.
[08:14] <nawk> Maahes, normally when you use Universal USB Installer, do you check the "We will format X:\Drive as Fat32" option?
[08:15] <Maahes> nawk: I run via pendrive linux, I've tried formatting in things other than FAT32, and have not had much success.
[08:15] <Maahes> pendrive does FAT32 only.
[08:15] <Inf0del> dexikiix, https://launchpad.net/notify-osd
[08:15] <Inf0del> :)
[08:16] <dhanijeremy> mitzed: no, actually it's for windows and i ran it through wine
[08:16] <nawk> pendrive linux is not a program is it?
[08:16] <dexikiix> Inf0del: i just removed notify-osd lmao
[08:17] <Inf0del> hehe
[08:17] <Inf0del> it pests me too
[08:17] <Inf0del> :o
[08:17] <wers> Is fat 32 the best type for a shared partition between OS X and Ubuntu?
[08:17] <mitzed> which is the program dhanijeremy
[08:18] <mitzed> u're trying run
[08:19] <ZeiP> How can I backup Gmail messages via IMAP on Ubuntu? Getmail and Fetchmail work otherwise, but I haven't found a way to tell them not to mark all the messages read.
[08:19] <dhanijeremy> mitzed: imvu client, i managed to run it but it froze after a random time.
[08:19] <Inf0del> google gadgets might do it for you
[08:22] <mitzed> you're  running the newest version of wine?
[08:22] <dhanijeremy> yes
[08:22] <sgo11> Hi, new to ubuntu. How to configure fonts preference list? what is the default preference list? how to make CJK fonts display correctly in terminal and browser? thanks. With default installation, CJK fonts in terminal and browser look very ugly. thanks.
[08:23] <dhanijeremy> maybe due to the config but i'm not sure
[08:23] <nawk> it finally works now
[08:24] <muzikguy> hi
[08:24] <Gryllida> sgo11 : system -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Fonts ?
[08:24] <Gryllida> muzikguy: Hey.
[08:24] <Inf0del> sgo11, ..open terminal,edit profile preferences...unclick default font and pick one
[08:25] <sgo11> Gryllida, sorry, I think that is not the answer. It will set one font in one category. I would like to setup fonts preference list. eg: english fonts use...., if not english fonts, use CJK fonts etc...
[08:25] <spectrahp> Hello. This error "Unable to lock the administration directory": does this mean I can only install 1 thing at a time in ubuntu???
[08:25] <KM0201> spectrahp: yup
[08:25] <Inf0del> indeed
[08:26] <pooky> I'm trying to get a better understanding of zend_db_table_abstract, I created a model.php which has all my tables and definitions, and I've placed it in a folder called models in my application directory, how do I make it accessible to other controllers?
[08:26] <spectrahp> KM0201: isn't that slightly unacceptable?
[08:26] <KM0201> spectrahp: or can't instal while doing updates, etc.
[08:26] <sgo11> Inf0del, sorry, I can not follow you... not sure what to do.
[08:26] <Asad2005> exit
[08:26] <KM0201> spectrahp: actually, i think it makes a lot of sense....
[08:26] <spectrahp> KM0201: I don't understand. To me it is only an inconvenience
[08:26] <Inf0del> pooky..set yur file permissions?
[08:26] <KM0201> spectrahp: you can install multiple apps at once, but you can only have 1 process running root at a time.
[08:27] <spectrahp> KM0201: What is the advantage/reason for only having 1 process running root at a time
[08:27] <pooky> Inf0del: huh? I can manually include it in my bootstrap, but that doesn't "feel right", could you maybe suggest the appropriate way to load it? Or is that OK?
[08:27] <jimblah> I already don't like unity, look for gubuntu
[08:27] <pooky> oh crap
[08:27] <KM0201> spectrahp: so if you run sudo apt-get install wine pidgin banshee gnomebaker etc.. all those programs will install... but if you try to install all those, then open another terminal, and install more stuff.. no joy, gotta wait for it to finish.
[08:27] <pooky> haha, I'm in the wrong channel! so sorry.
[08:28] <Inf0del> heh
[08:28] <KM0201> spectrahp: i can't really tell you what the advantage/disadvantage is... but to me, it makes sense
[08:28] <rtoo> hello. I
[08:28] <spectrahp> KM0201: Ok, thanks. I understand why it happens (technically) but no good reason I can see.
[08:29] <KM0201> spectrahp: well to my knowledge, every distro does it... so i'm sure there's a good reason
[08:30] <rtoo> I installed Ubuntu vie installer for windows to root.disk file but it failed to add the ubuntu entry into grub. ther is only the windows entry which is the ntldr again
[08:30] <rtoo> what should it look like? I have no idea
[08:31] <rtoo> \m
[08:32] <mitzed> rtoo like this  _._....................
[08:33] <zgr> hi all, i want to get network over firewire between my gentoo pc and ubuntu laptop
[08:33] <rtoo> huh? what is that root.disk file method called so I can google it
[08:34] <zgr> both have firewire0 interface running gentoo has 192.168.1.1 ip and ubuntu 192.168.1.2 but i can't ping them host unreachable
[08:38] <Inf0del> zgr, are they on the same subnet?
[08:38] <zgr> also i have errors/dropped RX packets on ubuntu laptop
[08:38] <zgr> Inf0del: yes
[08:39] <Inf0del> no firewalls
[08:39] <Inf0del> faulty switch
[08:39] <zgr> Inf0del: this means port isn't working?
[08:40] <Inf0del> could be
[08:40] <zgr> any way to check?
[08:40] <Inf0del> test on another prt
[08:40] <Inf0del> +o
[08:41] <zgr> I have only one 4pin firewire port on laptop :(
[08:41] <gobbe> switch to ethernet ;)
[08:42] <zgr> :D i'll but I have no cable for the moment
[08:42] <gobbe> hmmh..cable costs about nothing
[08:42] <gobbe> :D
[08:43] <gobbe> you are using more money by wasting your time trying to conf firewire-ethernet
[08:43] <Inf0del> agreed
[08:43] <zgr> ok thank you for help :)
[08:43] <mgolisch> whats the advantage of that?
[08:44] <mgolisch> every comp nowadays has gbit ethernet
[08:47] <supaplex> fglrx on 2.6.35 is not playing nice tonight. make.log at https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0B9C_aaCX9CyJNzEzZWM3YmMtNzBkYi00NGNmLWEyYTItNDhhNjUyOGI3MzZm&hl=en   any suggestions welcome. apt-file says 2.6.35-22-generic has no linux/autoconf.h
[08:49] <gremmachook> I have a problem with my ubuntu, specifically Compiz, the windows take some time to appear once they are minimized, I have the latest fglrx installed. My graphics card is ATI Radeon HD Mobility 3400 series
[08:49] <gremmachook> It takes about 3 seconds or so.
[08:49] <p3rror> hello i got this error message
[08:49] <p3rror> (parse_card) cannot find card '0'
[08:49] <p3rror> when i run aplay -l
[08:50] <p3rror> i see: card 2: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: AD198x Analog [AD198x Analog]
[08:50] <Dwade09> can someone help me with this error? http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=62932&p=361839#p361839
[08:50] <p3rror> please can you tell why the card is not indexed as default
[08:51] <Krishnandu> Hi, I can't run aplay and arecord as non-root user, it says permission denied, i can only run these commands as root, what to do??
[08:52] <cryogenfx> geetings. can anyone tell me why i need to enter the keyring password 3-5 times consecutively upon every login? (10.10)
[08:52] <gremmachook> any ideas?
[08:52] <supaplex> humm nm. fglrx > fglrx-kernel-source. is this normal? (maverick is pinned at priority 99) open: 7765; closed: 4992; defer: 0; conflict: 67
[08:53] <nawk> chris_openbsd, Maahes it appears I cannot copy/move/remove any files under the filesystem after I'm in the LiveUSB environment
[08:53] <supaplex> p3rror: what does it show? (pastebin it with context)
[08:54] <p3rror> supaplex, http://pastebin.com/HuX98ULB
[08:55] <alfred> Hi guys, how to switch back to gnome and remove the KDE?
[08:55] <alfred> I tried sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop  but didn t help
[08:55] <llutz> !puregnome > alfred
[08:55] <p3rror> supaplex, http://pastebin.com/jvvVAeTQ
[08:56] <alfred> thank you I will try it
[08:59] <supaplex> p3rror: strace aplay -l gives me a clue, that it's related to /dev/snd/  I have /dev/snd/controlC0
[08:59] <pavankumarl> how to create live usb with persistent storage
[09:00] <brianmunk> I have wondered if I download a source myself thats allready in the repository but in an older version, is there anyway to find out with what flags it was compiled, so when I compile my downloaded source it will match the ubuntu distobution as best as possible?
[09:01] <nawk> what is a good cpu temperature monitoring tool?
[09:01] <Inf0del> bios
[09:01] <Inf0del> :P
[09:01] <dirghrabadia_> lol
[09:02] <supaplex> tounge
[09:02] <alfred> I need again the link where to remove kubuntu and back to Gnome
[09:02] <pksadiq> !info usb-creator-gtk | pavankumarl
[09:02] <alfred> ubottu, I need the link again, how to delete KDE and back to GNOME
[09:03] <pksadiq> alfred: have you installed KDE in Gnome?
[09:03] <pavankumarl> pksadiq: it dosen't recognise iso images other than ubuntu.iso
[09:03] <alfred> pksadiq, yes
[09:03] <nawk> pavankumarl, I spent the last 3 hours getting in creating a live usb.  I've had a lot of problems with usb-creator
[09:03] <pksadiq> pavankumarl: use unetbootin
[09:03] <nit-wit> alfred, playing around left column http://pastebin.com/HuX98ULB
[09:03] <alfred> I had ubuntu, now I want back
[09:03] <nawk> pavankumarl, try Universal USB Installer
[09:04] <p3rror> supaplex, any idea
[09:04] <pksadiq> alfred: and so at the login you will have the choise to select wither KDE or Gnome or what ever installed
[09:04] <pavankumarl> pksadiq: unibootin doesn't have persistent memory creation option, does it?
[09:04] <nit-wit> alfred, here sorry http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index
[09:04] <alfred> pksadiq, I want to delete for ever any trace of kde
[09:05] <alfred> or is there a way how to back my system to 24 hours ago ?
[09:05] <pksadiq> pavankumarl: pavankumarl I havent yet used unetbootin in ubuntu, but I think each distro like puppy has their own installer to make it persistant
[09:06] <pksadiq> !find | kubuntu-desktop
[09:06] <pksadiq> !find kubuntu-desktop
[09:06] <WhatWhereAmI> Startup Disk Creator does persistent storage, doesn't it?
[09:06] <pksadiq> alfred: i think sudo dpkg -r kubuntu-desktop
[09:06] <nit-wit> pksadiq, look at the link I gave alfred
[09:06] <glitchd> has anyone ever removed the wrong kernel and basically broke their system?
[09:06] <alfred> nit-wit, I looked there but too long
[09:06] <pavankumarl> pksadiq: I installed it before coming to irc, it don't have persistent storage creation option
[09:07] <bastidrazor> WhatWhereAmI: yes, in the past i've had to run it with gksudo to get the option for persistant
[09:07] <pksadiq> nit-wit: k, didn't noticed, sorry
[09:07] <pksadiq> pavankumarl: this is ubuntu support channel, any way which is the distro?
[09:07] <nit-wit> alfred, that is what you will have to do if you want to remove kde or any desktop
[09:07] <WhatWhereAmI> bastidrazor, weird.
[09:08] <glitchd> if anyone is listening, i found fix for the problem of "removed the wrong kernel and now cant boot"
[09:08] <pavankumarl> pksadiq: fedora, want to create for my friend as he is not well aware of these things
[09:08] <nit-wit> alfred, pretty painless as well try looking at the history in synaptic and then marking each package to remove
[09:08] <glitchd> Boot from CD
[09:08] <glitchd> BACKUP ALL PERSONAL DATA
[09:08] <glitchd> Start a terminal, and change to root user.
[09:08] <glitchd> sudo su < enter>
[09:08] <glitchd> Let's mount root partition,
[09:08] <FloodBot2> glitchd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:08] <glitchd> mkdir /mnt/temp < enter>
[09:09] <alfred> nit-wit, thank you I will try
[09:09] <nawk> pavankumarl, When I tried to create a "Startup Disk" using usb-creator, much of the boot files are corrupted (or at least its not booting)
[09:09] <nawk> pavankumarl, try Universal USB Installer
[09:10] <pavankumarl> ok, I'll try now and will get back to u, thanks
[09:10] <alfred> nit-wit in Synaptic, do I search for all KDE related and delete them all ?
[09:10] <mgolisch> its usualy that syslinux was not setup properly or the generated config file is wrong
[09:10] <mgolisch> i allways had to hand edit that stuff to get it working
[09:11] <mgolisch> with both that usb-creator thing and unetbootin
[09:11] <greenIT> hi, does anyone know how i can use gfire with empathy?
[09:11] <alfred> pksadiq, I am going to delete the KDE from synaptic
[09:11] <alfred> do I delete what ever including "kde" letters ?
[09:11] <glitchd> does anyone want to know how to fix removing the wrong kernel and breaking you system??
[09:12] <WhatWhereAmI> glitchd, you can't just chose a different kernel from grub?
[09:12] <SoMeNaMe> glitchd: Thought you just found the solution....
[09:12]  * supaplex cheers on fglrx (2:8.780-0ubuntu2)
[09:12] <glitchd> WhatWhereAmI, not always
[09:12] <glitchd> SoMeNaMe, i did find the solution
[09:12] <glitchd> SoMeNaMe, and no, its not reinstalling either
[09:13] <SoMeNaMe> glitchd: Oh ! How about some more details /
[09:13] <SoMeNaMe> glitchd: background info ?
[09:13] <glitchd> i posted it in here nd got flagged a minute ago
[09:13] <wers> need grub help. I'm adding the "nomodeset" boot parameter. after appending the text, how do I proceed to booting with the new parameter/
[09:13] <pksadiq> alfred: but you must not be using kde when uninstalling it
[09:14] <alfred> pksadiq, I am not Gnome
[09:14] <SoMeNaMe> glitchd: Use pastebin !
[09:14] <glitchd> kk
[09:14] <pksadiq> wers I think CTRL +X
[09:14] <alfred> but I do not want my system offers me the option of KDE, I want it to login automatically as Gnome
[09:14] <glitchd> SoMeNaMe, http://pastie.org/1419276
[09:14] <wers> pksadiq, thanks. will try
[09:14] <Diverdude> Hello. Is it possible to include tif figures in latex? When i try it i get the error: Cannot determine size of graphic in media/fig6.tif (no BoundingBox)
[09:15] <alfred> pksadiq,  I installed the V3.3 of OpenOffice, but now it is back to 3.2 after the KDE problem
[09:15] <greenIT> how can i use gfire with empathy?
[09:15] <SoMeNaMe> glitchd: That's your solution to the prob, ryt ?
[09:16] <pksadiq> alfred: back to 3.2 :O , I don't think it's because of KDE
[09:16] <glitchd> thats what i found detailing my exact problem the other day, says its the fix
[09:16] <spectrahp> apt
[09:16] <glitchd> SoMeNaMe, thats what i found detailing my exact problem the other day, says its the fix
[09:16] <glitchd> SoMeNaMe, although, i found it a couple of days to late, i already reinstalled so i cant try it out
[09:17] <alfred> pksadiq, I see openoffice.org 3.3 in my synaptic but it doesn't offer me the choice to install it, only to coplete remove
[09:17] <alfred> pksadiq, do you know how can I activate that ?
[09:17] <SoMeNaMe> glitchd: Umm... Yes, but can you post your problem in detail ?
[09:17] <pksadiq> alfred: try to update your list
[09:18] <alfred> pksadiq,  how to update ? by reload ?
[09:18] <MadRobot> Hi all.
[09:19] <pksadiq> alfred: yes
[09:19] <alfred> pksadiq,  still the same situation
[09:19] <Krishnandu> Hi, I can't run aplay and arecord as non-root user, it says permission denied, i can only run these commands as root, what to do??
[09:20] <pksadiq> alfred: might be sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[09:21] <alfred> pksadiq,  it is set to gnome in the x server
[09:22] <pksadiq> alfred: did you try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm        ?
[09:22] <alfred> pksadiq,  Yes, and it is already set up to gnome over kde
[09:23] <alfred> I just re confirmed it
[09:23] <alfred> pksadiq,  anyway, now I am downloading again this OOO 3.3
[09:23] <alfred> pksadiq,  I will re install it manually
[09:26] <glitchd> so i lost the keyboard shortcuts to go back, forward and up in nautilus, and in webbrowsers. anyone know how to fix this?
[09:26] <kryl> hi
[09:26] <glitchd> i already looked in keyboard shortcuts and found nothing
[09:26] <kryl> my system is always overloaded, is there a possibility that my computer is infected ? (others peoples can use it sometime)
[09:26] <dennda> How do I mount my HFS+ partition so that my user account (without elevated privileges) has access to folders that're protected by the HFS+ settings? e.g. /Users/dennda/Music (owner is '501' and group 'dialout'...? in osx that's dennda:staff I think)
[09:26] <kryl> I check for normal processus and everything is ok with ps ...
[09:27] <cptblood> cant it be chmod'ed?
[09:27] <Inf0del> open nautilus in terminal
[09:27] <Inf0del> go to view...
[09:27] <Inf0del> add the toolbar
[09:27] <gobbe> dennda: you need to have same ID's in your server also
[09:27] <gobbe> dennda: then you can use it like you wanted
[09:28] <gobbe> dennda: so you either change ID's in OSX or in Ubuntu
[09:30] <dennda> gobbe: 'server'? This is a macbook where I installed ubuntu alongside OSX
[09:31] <dennda> gobbe: I'm not sure why it's showing this weird owner/group, and i'm not sure if it's wise to change that
[09:31] <dennda> gobbe: at least it's mounted like this already: /dev/sda2 on /media/Macintosh HD type hfsplus (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks)
[09:31] <gobbe> dennda: well, it's because ID's don't match between OSX and Ubuntu
[09:31] <glitchd> anyone know how to reactivat the nautilus keyboard shortcuts along with the Internet navigation keyboard shortcuts?
[09:32] <trojanking> hello all, i need help to install FLOCK browser filetype is tar.bz2
[09:32] <mitzed> trojanking
[09:32] <cptblood> trojanking: http://www.brunolinux.com/03-Installing_Software/Tar_Unpacking_Packages.html
[09:33] <dennda> gobbe: yeah my user id in ubuntu is 1000 and in osx apparently it is 501... now i *could* set permissions in osx so that the 'dialout' group ('staff' on osx) has access as desired, but then everybody on osx can read those files
[09:33] <gobbe> dennda: you need to change uid and gid
[09:33] <gobbe> dennda: if you want it work just out of the box
[09:33] <dennda> gobbe: i think uid should be enough since the user has the highest privileges anyway
[09:34] <gobbe> dennda: well if you just have one user
[09:34] <gobbe> dennda: then uid is enough
[09:34] <dennda> gobbe: the thing is that i'm not sure if there are any services on osx or ubuntu that rely on those specific ids
[09:34] <gobbe> dennda: what was the user id in osx?
[09:34] <mitzed> bye
[09:34] <dennda> gobbe: 501
[09:35] <dennda> gobbe: as reported by nautilus
[09:35] <gobbe> dennda: there's no user with id 501 in ubuntu by default
[09:35] <gobbe> dennda: so you could just change your ubuntu-users id to 501
[09:35] <FrozenKnight> Gaah, I did a booboo. If I for example chose to open a shell script file with gedit, but want to return to the old way of handling them (Run in Terminal, Display, Run) what do I need to do?
[09:35] <gobbe> dennda: system->administration->users and groups or editing /etc/passwd by hand
[09:36] <Nexxus> im trying to download a torrent on transmission but when it starts to download it crashes how do i fix this?
[09:36] <dennda> gobbe: i thought you do that with usermod -u?
[09:36] <dennda> gobbe: you can't change the user id of a user that's logged in via the gnome tools ;)
[09:36] <gobbe> dennda: well usermod is ok for that
[09:36] <FrozenKnight> Nexxus: do you really want to use transmission?
[09:36] <gobbe> dennda: well, i don't know what users id you are changing so that's why i gave options ;)
[09:36] <gobbe> dennda: usermod is quite safe for that
[09:36] <Nexxus> FrozenKnight: not really what is a better client
[09:37] <FrozenKnight> Nexxus: you could use uTorrent :) I like it better don't know why :)
[09:37] <trojanking> cptblood, thanks i have done it but it didn't show up on the application menu i cant find the software i installed
[09:37] <trojanking> flock-2.6.1.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2
[09:37] <dennda> gobbe: but in essence usermod just changes /etc/passwd?
[09:37] <dennda> and does *nothing* else?
[09:37] <gobbe> dennda: well, depends what do you do with it :)
[09:37] <SoMeNaMe> glitchd: Your keyboard shortcuts stopped working or never worked ?
[09:37] <ckrailo> Nexxus, i like deluge since it runs on linux, mac, win...
[09:37] <dennda> gobbe: if I do something like usermod -u 123 user; obviously :P
[09:37] <Nexxus> FrozenKnight: alright ill give that a go what ports should be open for torrenting
[09:37] <FrozenKnight> Nexxus: It's lightweight, it's under 100kb, it is available only for windows, but with wine it works perfect for me.
[09:38] <FrozenKnight> Nexxus: you should have at least one that you assign to the client program.
[09:38] <glitchd> SoMeNaMe, they stopped working, when i installed like yesterday, they worked in nautilus and the browser, now they work in neither
[09:38] <FrozenKnight> utorrent for example can choose a random port or have one set.
[09:38] <gobbe> dennda: just safe thing do to
[09:38] <gobbe> dennda: that's is safe thing to do
[09:38] <gobbe> dennda: don't know what i'm writing :-D
[09:39] <trojanking> hello all plz i installed a file $ tar -jxvf flock-2.6.1.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2
[09:39] <trojanking>  cant find it in my application menu any help pls?
[09:39] <pksadiq> !torrent | Nexxus
[09:39] <FrozenKnight> I've got a question. How do I get back to the "Run in Terminal, Display, Run" dialog in case I chose another program by mistake for *.sh files.
[09:39] <dennda> ok i think i just found a use case for having a root account. how the heck am I supposed to change a user's settings if you need to be logged in (as root) to do that, when the only account on the system is that particular user and you can't edit his settings cause he's logged in
[09:39] <Freaks> Hi. Without trolling, I'd like to know the best Linux softwares for daily use.
[09:40] <FrozenKnight> Whoah... so many options.
[09:40] <Nexxus> damn lol
[09:40] <dennda> i mean i could reboot into a root shell, but i am not sure at all if that has proper access to all the functions i need then
[09:40] <SoMeNaMe> glitchd: You reinstalled ?
[09:40] <gobbe> trojanking: tar doesn't install anything
[09:40] <gobbe> trojanking: tar just extracts files from archive
[09:40] <trojanking> hmm so what do i do gobbe
[09:41] <glitchd> SoMeNaMe, oh man, i have reinstalled like 3 times in the last week out of my own ignorance and messing up my install
[09:41] <DarKZi0N> :)
[09:41] <dennda> ok let me try this
[09:41] <jbatista> hi i have two questions
[09:41] <jbatista> first one has to do with gnome-about-me
[09:41] <Nexxus> FrozenKnight: thanks
[09:41] <Freaks> music, videos, internet, P2P, burning, science, maths...
[09:41] <jbatista> is there a way to change the user's full name?
[09:41] <gobbe> trojanking: after tar you should have directory with files and there should be installation instructions
[09:41] <gobbe> trojanking: or binary installation executable or something
[09:41] <jbatista> (other than manually editing /etc/passwd ?)
[09:42] <gobbe> jbatista: users and groups
[09:42] <gobbe> jbatista: from system->administration
[09:42] <gobbe> and about me
[09:42] <gobbe> sorry
[09:42] <gobbe> about me doesn't give option to change name
[09:42] <jbatista> gobbe: yep that's right :)
[09:42] <trojanking> gobbe, i saw readme file but no instruction in there
[09:42] <jbatista> gobbe: that's why i'm asking ;)
[09:43] <jbatista> gobbe: bug?
[09:43] <FrozenKnight> So, any way to rollback the "always open with this" option for a filetype?
[09:43] <WhatWhereAmI> what's a good way to generate white noise in ubuntu?
[09:43] <trojanking> gobbe, the instruction is saying i should go to Flock website
[09:43] <WhatWhereAmI> FrozenFire, right-click on the file, go Properties, Open With tab.
[09:43] <expahmet> hello
[09:43] <jbatista> WhatWhereAmI: maybe audacity? i think it has a White Noise plugin or menu option
[09:44] <expahmet> plssssssssssssss helppppppppppppppppp
[09:44] <gobbe> trojanking: so what did your tar archive contain then?
[09:44] <FrozenKnight> WhatWhereAmI: MilkyTracker also has this :)
[09:44] <jbatista> WhatWhereAmI: I don't know of any way to do it in the command line (scripting) though, if that's what you're looking for
[09:44] <pksadiq> jbatista: try  chfn    in terminal
[09:45] <trojanking> gobbe, list of files? should i upload screenshot or how do i tell u plz
[09:45] <FrozenKnight> How do I reach the filetype options in ubuntu?
[09:45] <WhatWhereAmI> jbatista, I did, you could cat a data file directly into the audio device, but I don't know how to do that with PulseAudio now and everything
[09:45] <gobbe> trojanking: where did you get this tar-package?
[09:45] <jbatista> pksadiq: yes, it works (as long as I don't use non-ASCII characters)
[09:45] <dennda> gobbe: ok i did it via a root shell (great user experience, by the way) and it seems to be working so far... not sure if there are any long-term side-effects
[09:45] <Doinkle> FrozenKnight, you mean associations?
[09:45] <trojanking> from flock.com
[09:45] <FrozenKnight> Doinkle: yes
[09:45] <pksadiq> trojanking: is there a file named configure ?
[09:46] <dennda> gobbe: first thing i noticed is that gdm seems to store default user to log in by ID, cause i had to manually enter my username... :)
[09:46] <FrozenKnight> Doinkle: I have accidently assigned sh with gedit
[09:46] <FrozenKnight> I want the old dialog back
[09:46] <Doinkle> FrozenKnight, i only know how to change that stuff with ubuntu tweaj
[09:46] <gobbe> dennda: oh really, quite interesting
[09:46] <Doinkle> tweak
[09:46] <jbatista> WhatWhereAmI: I remember something like cat /dev/random >/dev/dsp  but it would keep looping (you'd have to do Ctrl+C at some point)
[09:46] <zgr> I have trouble with my hp dv6500 series laptop, after i clicked disable touch pad button above it,  it isn’t working now
[09:46] <WhatWhereAmI> FrozenKnight, right-click on the file, go Properties, Open With tab.
[09:46] <gobbe> dennda: i haven't noticed that because i use always option that user needs to type username
[09:46] <Doinkle> if u dont have that app, install it and you will see the area
[09:47] <Doinkle> WhatWhereAmI is right tho
[09:47] <WhatWhereAmI> jbatista, yeah, i want to do some sensory deprivation
[09:47] <dennda> gobbe: yeah i didn't change this, it's the default nowadays apparently
[09:47] <gobbe> dennda: yes, feature that i hate :)
[09:47] <WhatWhereAmI> jbatista, /dev/dsp doesn't exist with pulseaudio installed and junk
[09:47] <gobbe> dennda: i'm used to method where user needs to know his userid :D
[09:47] <zgr> but touchpad works in gdm, when gnomes loads cursor hangs and i can use only usb mouse
[09:48] <dennda> anyway; anybody aware how good HFS+ support in ubuntu is? can i safely store/read my data from/to an HFS+ partition in ubuntu (e.g. i don't want to maintain two 'Downloads' folders)?
[09:48] <trojanking> pksadiq, gobbe, i have folders like chrome,components etc and files
[09:48] <AnxiousNut> I have a problem! Whenever i try updating my lucid machine it gives a 404 Not found error when trying to fetch ppa.launchpad.net lucid/main packages! It's been almost a week and nothing has been resolved! any ideas?
[09:48] <pksadiq> trojanking: is there any folder like lib  , usr, etc?
[09:49] <FrozenKnight> WhatWhereAmI: yeah, I've reached that, tried to reset the option and it opens with "Text Editor" of course this would be OK, but earlier it used some sort of dialog, with Run in Terminal, Display, Run options.
[09:49] <FrozenKnight> Also deleting all options doesn't work :/
[09:49] <pksadiq> trojanking: I believe that there will be a file named README or atleast configure
[09:49] <SmartConstructor> how to get DVD drives detected in Maverick meerkat
[09:49] <trojanking> pksadiq here is the url to view http://paste.ubuntu.com/549024/
[09:49] <dennda> is there a graphical user interface to set up auto-mounting for a partition?
[09:49] <SmartConstructor> can any one help on this?
[09:49] <WhatWhereAmI> FrozenKnight, oh yeah, whenever you double-click on a script it should ask you if you wanna open it in an editor or run it
[09:49] <jbatista> pksadiq , gobbe : I've seen CentOS's gnome-about-me allowing the change of username,
[09:50] <jbatista> pksaqid , gobbe : but I'm not sure if that's a CentOS "feature" or a Ubuntu "bug"
[09:50] <FrozenKnight> WhatWhereAmI: Nevermind I understood why :D
[09:50] <SmartConstructor> i have mount manager installed
[09:50] <gobbe> jbatista: i think it's feature there
[09:50] <FrozenKnight> WhatWhereAmI: it works normally, I just hadn't inserted the header for that specific file :D
[09:50] <jbatista> gobbe : OK
[09:50] <pksadiq> jbatista: I hope  this would be fixed soon, if it's a bug, check in launchpad if reported
[09:50] <pksadiq> !tab | jbatista
[09:50] <WhatWhereAmI> FrozenKnight, ah, so it probably didn't recognize it as a script or something
[09:51] <FrozenKnight> yeah :D
[09:51] <ghostlines> hi all I'm having a problem with wordpress on ubuntu 10.10 for some reason my theme only shows up when I use my internal lan IP address. If i use my external IP or domain name the theme never works. Any idea's how I could solve this?
[09:51] <trojanking> pksadiq, this is what is in readme file http://paste.ubuntu.com/549025/
[09:51] <jbatista> pksadiq : btw I'm on Lucid, not sure if Maverick or Natty have fixed that
[09:51] <gobbe> trojanking: there's no way to install it to application menu, you need to run it from the directory
[09:51] <gobbe> trojanking: there's run-mozilla.sh
[09:51] <gobbe> trojanking: so just run it from terminal
[09:52] <gobbe> trojanking: or add entry to application menu by hand
[09:52] <FrozenKnight> WhatWhereAmI: it also has to have the execut bit set.
[09:52] <FrozenKnight> execute
[09:52] <trojanking> gobbe so what do i do now
[09:52] <WhatWhereAmI> FrozenKnight, oh yeah, of course
[09:52] <gobbe> trojanking: there's flock/run-mozilla.sh, run that
[09:52] <jbatista> another problem: it seems that apport is broken
[09:53] <jbatista> and I don't know where to look at
[09:53] <gobbe> trojanking: i have no idea how flock should work, you should ask it from vendor
[09:53] <trojanking> gobbe i started using ubuntu 2days ago i am d biggest fool when it comes to ubuntu :D
[09:53] <pksadiq> trojanking: whY?
[09:53] <jbatista> apport-bug on the console prints:
[09:53] <jbatista> Could not import module, is a package upgrade in progress? Error: No module named restfulclient.errors
[09:53] <sacarlson> ghostlines: i"m going to guess it's eather a dns problem or appache2 config thing
[09:53] <trojanking> gobbe no problem which browser apart from flock can i use to brows
[09:54] <pksadiq> trojanking: try ls -alR and see any file is marked with green color
[09:54] <trojanking> gobbe, i have opera but i need two more browsers to add to it
[09:55] <ghostlines> notice sacarlson cool, I'm going to look into that real strange though cuz I do have access, thx
[09:55] <sacarlson> ghostlines: I guess it could also be a proxy cache or just the cache in the browser
[09:55] <trojanking> acfabaa3322192f23c587fd400000007-runtime
[09:55] <pksadiq> trojanking: I think ./flock-bin run's the program
[09:57] <trojanking> pksadiq
[09:57] <trojanking> nothing worked
[09:57] <trojanking> pksadiq, no such file or directory was what i got
[09:57] <pksadiq> trojanking: did you run ./flock-bin from the folder flock in terminal ?
[09:57] <trojanking> yes
[09:58] <gobbe> paste a screenshot
[09:58] <trojanking> pksadiq, no such file or directory was what i got
[09:58] <gobbe> it should run
[09:58] <trojanking> k
[09:58] <pksadiq> trojanking: what does you get ls -ah flock-b*  ?
[09:59] <dennda> gobbe: ok so i can access the files normally now, but i can't write to the device. it tells me "Read-only file system" even tho it's mounted with rw
[09:59] <gobbe> dennda: hmmh. i'm not sure that is it possible to mount hfs+ to ubuntu with rw
[09:59] <stjohnmedrano> Happy New Year Linux Users!
[10:00] <trojanking> pksadiq, how do i get the screenshot i took?
[10:01] <gobbe> dennda: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2346494#post2346494 at least says that it should be possible
[10:01] <dennda> gobbe: google tells me that I have to turn off journaling apparently
[10:01] <pksadiq> stjohnmedrano: it's you to decide whether it's happy or sad, it is the time for you to look back a year and see what you have done, because you wasted a year, and got a year closer to your Death
[10:01] <gobbe> dennda: yes, that's what the form also tells
[10:01] <trojanking> pksadiq, ls: cannot access flock-b: No such file or directory
[10:01] <dennda> now what would that mean exactly...
[10:02] <gobbe> trojanking: flock-bin
[10:02] <gobbe> trojanking: not flock-b
[10:02] <pksadiq> trojanking: try find  flock-bin   ? and post the one line here
[10:02] <Tetsuo55> hi im experiencing some wierd behaviour, the laptop batter icon tells me the battery is full, but when i unplug it tells me the battery is emtpy, and that the computer will hibernate
[10:02] <pksadiq> trojanking: try find | grep flock-bin   ? and post the one line here
[10:02] <loquitus> Has anybody got bluray playback working reasonably well in Maverick?
[10:03] <stjohnmedrano> pksadiq: death is inevitable, we should learn from our past, what is more important how we deal with it.
[10:03] <trojanking> pksadiq, ./flock/flock-bin
[10:03] <stjohnmedrano> dennada: try to chmod 700
[10:04] <pksadiq> trojanking: ok, so now run ./flock/flock-bin     in terminal say the output
[10:05] <Tetsuo55> my question would be how can i reset the battery charging tool so it accurately detects the state of the battery?
[10:05] <trojanking> pksadiq, ./flock/flock-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libjemalloc.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:05] <stjohnmedrano> dennda: i think your permission is r-x only, you should change it to 755 or 700 : try chmod 700 device path
[10:06] <dennda> stjohnmedrano: no; that's not the problem as we already pointed out. i do have write.
[10:06] <dennda> write permissions i mean
[10:06] <pksadiq> trojanking: and so what does ./flock/flock-browser   do?
[10:06] <trojanking> pksadiq, no worries, its complicated for me, do u know any browser i can use? that is a .deb file? i think its better to find easier browser than waste time with dificult styf
[10:07] <dennda> anyway thanks, i'll leave it at that
[10:07] <pksadiq> !browser
[10:08] <pksadiq> !chrome | trojanking
[10:08] <trojanking> bash: !chrome: event not found
[10:09] <gobbe> trojanking: i believe that there should be somekind of installation instructions or installer, you should ask from vendor that how you can intsall it
[10:09] <pksadiq> !info chromium-browser | trojanking
[10:10] <jbatista> !info apport | jbatista
[10:10] <pksadiq> trojanking: in terminal type sudo apt-get install chromium-browser    to install google chrome
[10:10] <PhilT> ghostlines: say more about config what is wordpress server, where is client, WAN, LAN connections etc
[10:11] <rgb247> hello, I have a problem with my ubuntu
[10:12] <rgb247> how can I set dual monitor ?
[10:13] <rgb247> anyone here?
[10:15] <trojanking> hello all, what are the real benefits of ubuntu to other OS cos it took me just 24hrs to be able to do anything with my MAC windows i learnt a long time... pls what is special about linux
[10:16] <mattsmith123> markf: hi
[10:16] <mattsmith123> markf, hello
[10:16] <sacarlson> trojanking: security with freedom
[10:17] <Spown> Cyaoo a tutti!!
[10:17] <Spown> ieuuuuuuuuuuuu
[10:17] <rww> !it
[10:17] <rgb247> anyone can help me with my problem?
[10:18] <rgb247> how can I set dual monitors on ubuntu?
[10:18] <jhon> which is what?
[10:18] <jhon> Do you have propertiary drivers installed?
[10:18] <rgb247>  I don't know
[10:18] <trojanking> sacarlson what is secruity about anf freedom about
[10:18] <jhon> rgb247> Do you have an NVIDIA or ATI card?
[10:18] <rgb247> jhon can you teach me to install the best drivers for me and set dual boot?
[10:19] <rgb247> jhon: NVIDIA GAINWARD 260 is my graphic card
[10:20] <jhon> rgb247> Look at private
[10:23] <SaladFingers1> Hi
[10:23] <SaladFingers1> This is the support channel, right?
[10:24] <sacarlson> trojanking: see pm
[10:27] <shawnboy> Are there negative consequences to installing ia32-libs on a 64-bit Ubuntu system?
[10:28] <shawnboy> I think I need ia32-libs for tsmuxer to work properly in PS3 Media Server
[10:28] <rww> shawnboy: no
[10:28] <rww> (I use it for various things, works fine.)
[10:28] <jg47hm> do you know how to change pointer icon?
[10:28] <shawnboy> rww: so what needs them uses them, otherwise no big deal having them installed and available?
[10:28] <ddraig> anyone able to help a newb with some basic stuff?  I want to mount a network folder on boot.
[10:28] <rww> shawnboy: correct
[10:28] <shawnboy> rww: thank you very much.
[10:28] <pksadiq> shawnboy: never, many packages depends on ia32libs
[10:29] <shawnboy> cool, pksadiq. I'm off to install them now.
[10:29] <jg47hm> do you know how to change pointer icon???
[10:29] <Tito0096> Can someone help me, I am trying to remove fglrx, and keep the open source ati drivers
[10:29] <Tito0096> when I do
[10:29] <Roaster> Can any 1 help with instaling intel IPW2200 drivers work on Ubuntu but i am running gnacktrack any help welcome
[10:29] <markf> Does anyone here know how i could get 'pstack' for 10.04 64bit? Only appears to exist for 32bit.... i don't mind compiling from source if i have to just i can't even find that to download .... probably because its more a Redhat thing?
[10:29] <Tito0096> remove fglrx i get a black screen at login
[10:29] <shawnboy> Tito0096: aptitude remove fglrx
[10:30] <shawnboy> Tito0096: actually go to synaptics package manager and search on fglrx
[10:30] <Tito0096> i did that
[10:30] <Tito0096> BUT
[10:30] <Tito0096> when i boot
[10:30] <jg47hm> guys do you know how to change pointer icon?
[10:30] <shawnboy> remove the ones that are installed. reboot
[10:30] <Tito0096> i get a black screen at login
[10:30] <Tito0096> and I do have the other driver installed
[10:30] <Tito0096> i dont know why it doesnt work though
[10:31] <shawnboy> Tito0096: scratching my head. Lucid?
[10:31] <Tito0096> 10.10
[10:31] <Soldrur> can't Xubuntu see NTFS partitions?
[10:31] <hatseflats> hi everyone
[10:31] <shawnboy> Tito0096: well, I'm sorry but I'm afraid you've tapped the bottom of my shallow pool of knowledge on this one.
[10:32] <Tito0096> haha
[10:32] <Tito0096> thanks for the help
[10:32] <shawnboy> Tito0096: I tried. Hopefully someone else here will know... Anyone?
[10:32] <abhinav_singh> i have multiple .tar.gz files in my directory..how to extract all of them in one go?
[10:32] <rww> Tito0096: you may also need to edit or remove fglrx additions to /etc/X11/xorg.conf or /etc/xorg.conf or wherever it is now.
[10:32] <shawnboy> goodnight all.
[10:32] <Roaster> how do you install linux drivers
[10:32] <ricol> xt
[10:32] <rww> I think fglrx still creates and adds to it.
[10:32] <Tito0096> rww
[10:32] <Tito0096> oh
[10:32] <Tito0096> okay
[10:32] <Tito0096> what would i edit it too?
[10:33] <jbatista> Roaster drivers for what hardware?
[10:33] <rww> Tito0096: I'd probably just remove it. Xorg usually autodetects instead these days.
[10:33] <Tito0096> oh okay
[10:33] <SlyUk> Morning all :)
[10:33] <rww> I may be wrong and it's already removed.
[10:33] <Roaster> ipw 2200 i have the linux drivers jst need to make & install
[10:33] <Roaster> Wireless
[10:33] <hatseflats> Quick question; I'm on a hardy local development server (so I can't muck around 'till it works) and I want to upgrade vim to 7.3, but that version is not in the repositories, where do I look for instructions to upgrade only that package, and not upgrade the whole box (I'm too much afraid a shitstorm of things will break, our sysadmins are not... what you'd say, with a lot of clue)
[10:34] <Tito0096> rww So uninstall fglrx then edit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[10:34] <Tito0096> what if I get a black screen at boot?
[10:34] <Tito0096> even though i ahve the correct driver installed
[10:35] <rww> Tito0096: dunno. I haven't used fglrx in a few years :(
[10:35] <rww> can't stand the thing, it's a huge hassle
[10:35] <Tito0096> rww: I am trying to get rid of it lol
[10:35] <SlyUk> Im needing some guidance. I am wanting to install ubuntu to a 8gig usb stick and have that as the bootable os. So i can just plug it in/out whenever i want to boot into it. I know how to get the iso on the usb to install from but i dont know how to install to and use that as and when.
[10:35] <Tito0096> but something is retardedly messed up on my system
[10:36] <Mayank> Hello, i am trying to install package - libbusiness-isbn-perl , by doing apt-get install , it says unable to locate package. when i run apt-get update, i get some errors in fetching. like - W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-security/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  Sub-process /bin/bzip2 returned an error code (2) , how can i fix them?
[10:37] <jbatista> Roaster if you already have the source, doesn't it install already?
[10:37] <jbatista> Roaster did you install the kernel source?
[10:38] <Tito0096> rww: delete the .conf?
[10:38] <Aihetleos> guys do you know any high quality movie player???
[10:39] <rww> Tito0096: sure, or move it to xorg.conf.backup or something.
[10:39] <hatseflats> Aihetleos: mplayer
[10:39] <mgolisch> mplayer > *
[10:39] <Tito0096> rww: okay
 it is high quality?
[10:39] <mgolisch> what does high quality movie player mean anyways?
[10:39] <hatseflats> ^
[10:39] <hatseflats> that
[10:40] <Roaster> Jbatista i am running gnacktrack & the drivers have not loaded i run Ubuntu no probs, i have used modprobe etc & it see's the card when i try to bring the card up it will not recog, i found the drivers but need to install but am a new to terminal so the Make install bit has me lost
[10:41] <jbatista> Roaster usually driver compilation requires that you install the kernel source, because the drivers compile against the kernel source
[10:41] <jbatista> Roaster only then might the driver kernel module get installed
[10:41] <Roaster> i have updated the Kernel
[10:42] <gobbe> Roaster: this channel is only for ubuntu-support
[10:42] <jbatista> Roaster from source?
[10:42] <Roaster> Gnacktrack is Ubuntu ?
[10:42] <jacktim> I was wondering if there was any way from either a linux machine that is not connected to the internet, or from a windows machine that is, to download a debian package and all of its requirements (streamlined into one package or collection of packages) without individually hunting down each package, the required packages for those packages and so on and so forth?
[10:43] <hatseflats> oh well
[10:43] <jbatista> Roaster gnutrack doesn't seem to be in the repository, so it seems the answer is no
[10:44] <jacktim> Or from the linux machine, creating an executable that will run in windows to get all the files in a list.
[10:44] <Roaster> Cheers for you help mite sw bk & Vm cheers again
[10:44] <jhon> jacktim you can install cygwin on a windows machine
[10:44] <findeds> he there
[10:44] <jhon> and then give a command to download a package with all its dependencies
[10:44] <jhon> but not install
[10:45] <jacktim> Not an option I am afraid. I'm running ubuntu native on one machine, and the windows machines do not belong to me.
[10:45] <wers> trying to do this http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10065168&postcount=69       but I get  http://paste.ubuntu.com/549040/ . what do I do?
[10:45] <gobbe> Roaster: gnutrack is not ubuntu, it's based on ubuntu
[10:45] <gobbe> Roaster: so #gnutrack or something else is supportchannel for that
[10:45] <trojanking> is there server to meet hackers and crackers?
[10:46] <Roaster> gnacktrack comb of ubuntu & backtrack
[10:46] <jhon> jacktim> so you have no install privilidges on the windows machine
[10:46] <jacktim> I could install... I have privilidges... not permission... lol.
[10:46] <rww> Roaster: Gnacktrack is not supported here.
[10:47] <Roaster> Ok guys i get the hint l8trs
[10:47] <gobbe> Roaster: yes, like you told. It's combination, and it's not same thing. So it's not supported here
[10:47] <jhon> my suggestion is this ... Create a persistent bootable pendrive and get to the windows box and boot it up from a pendrive
[10:47] <trojanking> anyone from morocco or india message me pleasee
[10:47] <jhon> and do what you need
[10:48] <jhon> take the packages with you back on the pendrive
[10:48] <jhon> no install involved
[10:48] <jacktim> Also not an available option... Nerts.
[10:49] <Tito0096> rww: awesome I got someone in #radeon to link me to a very awesome guide
[10:49] <Tito0096> and it worked
[10:49] <Tito0096> i think
[10:49] <rww> Tito0096: what's the link?
[10:49] <lolzer> h
[10:50] <Tito0096> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html
[10:50] <jacktim> Not to mention that I wouldn't know where to find the packages on the pen drive after that... <_< Thanks anyway Jhon.
[10:52] <Tito0096> rww:
[10:52] <Tito0096> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/FglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver
[10:52] <Tito0096> ^ the correct link
[10:53] <rww> thanks
[10:54] <WeThePeople> rww, can i pm you
[10:54] <rww> WeThePeople: I don't do support in PM
[10:55] <WeThePeople> rww, its not support related
[10:55] <rww> WeThePeople: then yes
[11:01] <m3asmi> LAMP don't show errors if I forget ';'
[11:02] <abu> hello
[11:02] <WhatWhereAmI> anybody know what to do about padsp being all crackly?
[11:05] <Shruikhan> Hallo at all
[11:05] <Shruikhan> I want install in dual boot ubuntu and kubuntu by doing a separate installation of the two os.es
[11:05] <Shruikhan> I know how to do all the process, but my doubt is regarding a partition.
[11:05] <Shruikhan> I usually use 4 partition /boot / swap /home.
[11:05] <Shruikhan> Now, i consider to install ubuntu by using this partitioning system, and after i'll install kubuntu. For Kubuntu i'll share home by a different user account
[11:05] <FloodBot2> Shruikhan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:05] <Shruikhan> and swap but what about the boot partition?
[11:06] <Mayank> hello i am trying to dpkg -i libbusiness-isbn-data-perl_20081208-1_all.deb i get an error - subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> !panelreset
[11:07] <Shruikhan> Hallo at all. I want install in dual boot ubuntu and kubuntu by doing a separate installation of the two os.es
[11:07] <Shruikhan> I know how to do all the process, but my doubt is regarding a partition.I usually use 4 partition /boot / swap /home. Now, i consider to install ubuntu by using this partitioning system, and after i'll install kubuntu. For Kubuntu i'll share home by a different user account
[11:07] <Shruikhan> and swap but what about the boot partition?think to share that partition by mountig /boot of kubuntu on that
[11:07] <FloodBot2> Shruikhan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:07] <Mayank> Dr_Wills: was that for me?
[11:07] <red2kic> Mayank: Not likely. He just came in. Self-indulged.
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> Mayank:  it was for me. :) my settings are messed up
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> Shruikhan:  you do realize you can just install kubuntu-desktop over ubuntu, and select what desktop to use at the GDM login screen.
[11:08] <Mayank> red2kic: ok! but any suggestions for solving an error - subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2
[11:08] <Mayank> while dpkg - i a package?
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> Shruikhan:  the 2 installs could share the same /home/ also. but that might cause a few issues. if you added 2 users to each,  and just used one for kde, and one for gnome. that would avoid most issues
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> Shruikhan:  but honestly - i dont see the point in 2 seperate installs
[11:09] <Shruikhan> Dr_Willis, i know that way. What i want i try as separate as possible from ubuntu the kubuntu system.
[11:09] <paccez> Dr_Willis, in that way you would have all kde software in ubuntu and all gnome software in kubuntu...
[11:09] <Shruikhan> I know.
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> I find kde and gnome apps to handy to keep them seperated..
[11:10] <Mayank> Dr_Wills: ok! :) but any suggestions for solving an error - subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2 while doing dpkg -i <package_name>
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> Shruikhan:  the use of a /boot/ is a bit unneeded these days also.
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> Mayank:  not really. fixing apt breakage - can be a real pain.
[11:10] <Shruikhan> the fact is that i reached a perfect state of the art of my ubuntu installation
[11:11] <Mayank> Dr_Wills: ok :(
[11:11] <Dr_Willis> Shruikhan:  with that 'logic' then why do you even want to bother with kde..
[11:11] <red2kic> Shruikhan: You're on a computer?
[11:11] <Callum__> happy new year to everyone =P in NZ here it's new years already
[11:11] <Shruikhan> because i have a poerful notebook and i don't give a chance to kde since kde 4.0
[11:12] <Dr_Willis> if you want to test out kde. you could just use a live cd.
[11:12] <Dr_Willis> or virtualbox. - KDE is very well done in 10.10 - i use it on my laptop.
[11:12] <LegoSalva> hi
[11:12] <Dr_Willis> learning all the little tricks and tips of using kde - is the hard part.
[11:12] <red2kic> Shruikhan: Install KDE + GNOME on one machine and share them?
[11:12] <Shruikhan> know i tried the live cd and all works fine but i don't want to be annoyed by the problems about gdm or kdm and all about the processes of the desktop environment that loads automaticall
[11:13] <red2kic> Shruikhan: Use Kubuntu LiveDisc (or if you want persistent mode, install it to USB).
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> Shruikhan:  i dont really notice any of kde loading automatically on my mixxed system. Gnome+KDE+Lubuntu
[11:13] <paccez> Shruikhan, why don't you just install kubuntu as another OS? Just like installing Windows with Ubuntu
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> So you have your options.. do what you want. :) i guess.
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> paccez:  that can have its own issues.
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> 'safest' do a full install to a 8+GB flash drive.. perhaps..
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> actually safest may be to use it in virtualbox.
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> that way its easy to 'remove' if you decide tonot use kde.
[11:17] <Shruikhan> hum... this way is useful but i can't see how system performs kubuntu because the hdd in my laptop is 7200rpm so a different class of speed
[11:17] <x-2000> ubunchu
[11:17] <x-2000> ?
[11:17] <icesword> new year is coming
[11:17] <stefan___> yes
[11:17] <icesword> hi everyone
[11:17] <stefan___> hi icesword
[11:17] <icesword> Happy new year!
[11:17] <stefan___> happy new year too
[11:17] <stefan___> =)
[11:18] <icesword> stefan___, hey
[11:18] <x-2000> happy new yer indeed...
[11:18] <stefan___> ^^
[11:18] <stefan___> icesword, do you go party tonight?
[11:18] <stefan___> =)
[11:18] <red2kic> About 18 minutes too late or 42 minutes too early. I can't decide. :(
[11:18] <lamalex> Does anyone know what daemon handles brightness/volume hotkeys?
[11:19] <icesword> stefan___, nope
[11:19] <stefan___> =)
[11:19] <lamalex> is it gnome-settings-daemon
[11:19] <lamalex> ?
[11:19] <icesword> stefan___, yourself
[11:19] <stefan___> every year the same
[11:19] <stefan___> yes i go tonight,
[11:19] <bros> I am having an audio problem. Googling it reveals that users have a third device (one configured for HDMI). I do not have this. May I please get some help debugging this problem?
[11:19] <stefan___> just because my girlfriend wants to..
[11:20] <icesword> stefan___, enjoy the night
[11:20] <stefan___> i would prefere to stay @ home but..
[11:20] <stefan___> thanks,.. you too
[11:20] <stefan___> just a question..
[11:20] <bros> I have a Core i3 processor which has an onboard graphics processor. My motherboard has HDMI output. I would like for audio to be output through HDMI.
[11:20] <stefan___> im new to irssi..
 : so it doesnt work?
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> bros:  hdmi audio out is known to be problematic for many devices/chipsets.
[11:20] <bros> jhon: No. aplay -l doesn't list the HDMI device at all.
[11:21] <bros> Dr_Willis: googling reveals that mine works, or is known to work.
[11:21] <stefan___> and could you tell me, how i can write eg to you so that you know, that i am talking to you?
[11:21] <bros> H55 chipset, Core i3 processor, Intel brand motherboard
[11:21] <Krishnandu> Hi, I installed k3b and it shows this http://fpaste.org/J91k/ on startup, I already have libmad installed
[11:22] <jhon> bros: Sounds like the chipset is not properly recognized
[11:22] <jhon> you probably need to download a linux driver for it, compile it and modprobe it
[11:22] <bros> http://paste.ubuntu.com/549046/
[11:23] <bros> jhon: do I need to do that despite audio working through 3.5mm?
[11:24] <red2kic> bros: Run "alsamixer" -- See if anything are muted.
[11:24] <bros> http://paste.ubuntu.com/549047/ a better paste
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> stefan___:  use the tab key, and the first few chars of a nick
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> !tab | stefan___
[11:25] <LewisCawte> How do I add a custom menu onto my panel. In the interface, the custom menu is the Ubuntu default. I want just another menu that I can move around called "Favourites"
[11:25] <sresu_> Can rsync/grsync make changes in destination backup folder if original source is changed. For example, if a folder is cut-pasted inside another folder in the source, will it make that changes as well. I want to have backup of files/folders in a similar way they are till date, as far as I remeber rsync can do this. Is it possible to achieve that?
[11:26] <red2kic> LewisCawte: Bookmarks? To reserve a list of popular ("favourites") folders?
[11:26] <LewisCawte> red2kic: nope. The default doesn't meet the bill I'm afraid, I need a completely new menu bar for my panel
[11:27] <bros> It looks like I am missing the alsa codec?
[11:27] <red2kic> LewisCawte: Drawer applet, perhaps?
[11:27] <jhon> bros: PulseAudio is currently the audio server in Linux
[11:28] <jhon> bros: Alsa used to be used, but they ve switched around 9.04
[11:28] <red2kic> LewisCawte: Since I don't know what you want to put in there. You can add apps, folders, etc in the drawer.
[11:28] <sresu_> Can rsync/grsync make changes in destination backup folder if original source is changed. For example, if a folder is cut-pasted inside another folder in the source, will it make that changes as well. I want to have backup of files/folders in a similar way they are till date, as far as I remeber rsync can do this. Is it possible to achieve that?
[11:28] <Adman65> anyone have any exp with the Xonar STX? I can see mixer levels going on, but can't get any sound out of the equipment
[11:29] <bros> jhon: That changes everything. Does PulseAudio use ALSA as a backend?
[11:29] <jhon> Adman65: I have a Xonar D2: Works out of the box
[11:30] <jhon> bros: Yes, that appears to be the case, I personally hate PulseAudio, never managed to get proper 5.1 surround sound working, ALSA was way better
[11:30] <LewisCawte> red2kic: it won't let me add text to the bit on the panel, I've tried drawer's before ;(
[11:30] <bros> I honestly think I am using alsa
[11:30] <bullgard4> Rhythmox 0.13.1 shows two columns named »Title« with different content. The left Title column includes only natural number entries. What is its function?
[11:30] <Adman65> jhon, well the D2 is a different card. I can't figure out where the problem is since everything seems like it should be working
[11:30] <bs123> are there any good portable documents available for a newbie to ubuntu?
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> the kernel uses alsa. that is then used by Pulse audio.
[11:31] <jhon> yea, but pulse is so tied into the system, you cant actually remove it without crippling the distro
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> Every time i see someont try to 'remove pulse' they soon do a reinstall.. :)
[11:32] <jhon> they say OSS V4 works really well
[11:32] <gobbe> sresu_: rsync can be used to keep your backup 1:1 copy of your current disk, it can move folders etc
[11:32] <gobbe> sresu_: rsync -az --delete (but keep in mind that it will also delete all files that you have deleted in your current original place)
[11:33] <bros> jhon: I am missing this from my aplay -l output: card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 3: INTEL HDMI [INTEL HDMI]
[11:33] <sresu_> gobbe: Well, I want exact copy of two drives/partition till date. I'm using grsync
[11:33] <monokrome> Hey. Does anybody know what's wrong with this? http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> !info fsarchiver
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> !jaunty
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> monokrome:  its past end of life for starters.. time to upgrade.
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> monokrome:  so all packages would have been moved to the 'archive' servers. whatever they are called.. i forget
[11:35] <monokrome> okay
[11:35] <monokrome> I thought Jaunty was 10.10
[11:35] <monokrome> But that's lucid
[11:35]  * monokrome facepalm
[11:35] <monokrome> Thank you, Dr_Willis
[11:36] <jhon> bros: Seems to me you need to look at what is the controller called for the HDMI, and get a driver for that
[11:36] <root> WWW.IDEA.COM
[11:36] <jhon> bros: mine uses Nvidia
[11:36] <root> www.idea.com
[11:37] <rww> Guest88297: don't advertise here.
[11:37] <bros> jhon: I just tried to install a Realtek driver and now no sound works at all. How may I uninstall it/reinstall the working packages?
[11:37] <Guest88297> tuhadi ma di jai ho
[11:37] <gobbe> sresu_: i'm using rsync to have exact copy of my server in second server
[11:38] <Utopiah> hi #ubuntu, trying to fix grub out of an updated Wubi install but grub rescue has no loopback/initrd/linux commands as described in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 of course to make it fun the laptop has no CD and the only USB HD I have is too large to get formatted, idea?
[11:38] <Guest88297> tere server de aisi de taisi
[11:38] <gobbe> sresu_: rsync -az --delete /src/dir secondserver:/src/dir
[11:38] <jhon> jhon: Did you install it from the package manager, or you downloaded and compiled?
[11:38] <rww> !en | Guest88297
[11:39] <root__> edit
[11:39] <jhon> bros: did you use package manager or downloaded and compiled manually?
[11:40] <sresu_> gobbe: You said that  ' it will also delete all files that you have deleted in your current original place' - I don't think that happens..
[11:40] <sresu_> gobbe: I've once made a big mistake using rsync/dd that I'm trying not to use CLI though at times I work with it on my other drives where mistakes can be ignored. Have you tried grsync?
[11:40] <bs123> bros what motherboard?
[11:42] <bullgard4> Rhythmox 0.13.1 shows two columns named »Title« with different content. The left Title column includes only natural number entries. What is its function?
[11:42] <bullgard4> s/Rhythmox/Rhythmbox/
[11:43] <oqbo> hello
[11:43] <oqbo> 1 question how i go to the cdrom monted on the desk sing the terminal in ubuntu?
[11:43] <bs123> bros anyhow...some motherboards have an option in the bios
[11:43] <bs123> fyi
[11:44] <Tito0096> How can I add a partition so I can install a small install of xp?
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> oqbo:  it in /media/ somewhere.
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> oqbo:  cd /media/cdrom (or some other name)
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> Tito0096:  gparted can resize partitions.
[11:44] <oqbo> i did 'cd /media/cdrom0'   but dowant works
[11:44] <gobbe> sresu_: well, if i delete folder from my server, it will be deleted also from destination
[11:44] <gobbe> sresu_: but you need to use --delete
[11:44] <gobbe> sresu_: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/549052/ i'm having like that
[11:44] <Tito0096> Dr_Willis: no data loss?
[11:44] <sresu_> Tito0096: gparted/fdisk can be used for that
[11:45] <jhon> bullgard4: is it a CD rip? some Audio CD s when ripped without CDDB the number titles dont appear correctly
[11:45] <jhon> only as numbers instead of titles
[11:46] <Tito0096> How can I add a partition to empty space in ext4 with out loosing data?
[11:46] <sresu_> gobbe: What if w/o using --delete? Have you ever tried grsync? I'm asking that because the parameters you would be suggesting need not be same for what it takes by default on clicking an action
[11:47] <jhon> Tito0096: You use a Live CD or Pendrive to boot the system, then using Gparted you shrink the partition, that will give you free space which allows to create new partitions
[11:47] <Tito0096> okay
[11:47] <Tito0096> hmmm
[11:47] <root__> guest88297
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> Tito0096:  always make backups...
[11:47] <royale1223> i get this error while trying to copy evolution contacts "This address book cannot be opened.  Please check that the path /home/binoy/.evolution/addressbook/local/1293527560.2865.7@binoy-pc exists and that permissions are set to access it."
[11:47] <bullgard4> jhon: Yes, the natural numbers in the left-hand Title column  seem to appear only in entries from CD rips. Still, why do have two columns with different contents the same headline?
[11:47] <root__> guest88297 init
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> Tito0096:  it can resize with no loss. but a power failure duiring resize = bad.
[11:48] <Tito0096> Haha
[11:48] <Tito0096> yeah
[11:48] <sresu_> gobbe: So you have made a script for that. Okay.
[11:48] <Tito0096> Hmmm How can I edit grub to allow a windows xp install
[11:48] <Tito0096> ?
[11:48] <bullgard4> !grub | Tito0096
[11:48] <lamalex> Does anyone know what daemon handles screen brightness keys?
[11:48] <matty_> hi
[11:48] <sresu_> Tito0096: You are installing after Ubuntu/*nix?
[11:49] <sresu_> windows after
[11:49] <bros> After install 10.10 with an SSD, do I need to configure any extra options?
[11:49] <Tito0096> sresu_ Windows 7 on a spare partition
[11:49] <bullgard4> lamalex: This depends on hardware.
[11:49] <lamalex> bullgard4, what? really?
[11:49] <jhon> Tito0096: make sure you boot from another device, Gparted cannot resize partitions while they are used, they have to be unmounted first, not sure if you can unmount a partition while you booted from it
[11:50] <sresu_> Tito0096: You should see what bullgard4 suggested
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> windows7 can be weird in how it wants to install. it tries to use  a boot type partition. and a normal parttion
[11:50] <sresu_> Exavtly
[11:50] <sresu_> exactly*
[11:50] <Tito0096> sresu_: its a spare drive
[11:50] <Tito0096> so i can do it
[11:50] <lamalex> bullgard4, so I know pommed is for macbooks, but what does it for other hardware?
[11:50] <royale1223> i get this error while trying to copy evolution contacts "This address book cannot be opened.  Please check that the path /home/binoy/.evolution/addressbook/local/1293527560.2865.7@binoy-pc exists and that permissions are set to access it."
[11:50] <lamalex> it's not just gnome-settings-deamon or gnome-power-manager?
[11:52] <jhon> Tito0096: Also make sure if you are installing Windows on a different harddrive, that you unplug the linux drive first, Windows just loves screwing up GRUB
[11:52] <bros> After install 10.10 with an SSD, do I need to configure any extra options?
[11:52] <Tito0096> jhon: oh yes I know that lol
[11:52] <bullgard4> lamalex: The screen brightness keys will be controlled by different programs depending on the specific hardware. So you better state your hardware or google for your specific computer type.
[11:53] <gobbe> sresu_: u need to use --delete, without that it wont delete files
[11:53] <Gawain_> #ubuntu+1
[11:53] <sresu_> gobbe: Oh.. that would not move files etc
[11:53] <gobbe> sresu_: i have tested grsync but i'm more familiar with cli tools
[11:53] <gobbe> sresu_: well, it will. It will sync new directory and delete old one
[11:54] <sresu_> gobbe: Likewise
[11:54] <sresu_> Okay
[11:54] <jhon> Tito0096: also after install when back on the linux box, use an update initramfs or reinstall a kernel from package manager thats the simplest way of grub Autoupdate
[11:54] <gobbe> sresu_: like the link i gave, theres a shellscript that i use for keeping in sync my two servers
[11:54] <Tito0096> jhon: will do
[11:54] <gobbe> sresu_: so if you change one website, let's say www.something.com to www.somethingnew.com, it will be changed also in my second server
[11:55] <sresu_> gobbe: hey, can I talk to you in private for a moment?
[11:55] <lamalex> bullgard4, I'm on a macbook pro
[11:55] <Dwade09> anyone in here wana help me with this post its from using wine http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=62932&p=361905#p361905
[11:56] <gobbe> sresu_: yes
[11:56] <lamalex> bullgard4, 13"
[11:56] <jhon> Dwade09: Which WINE version are you using?
[11:56] <bullgard4> lamalex: Right. But I myself do not know this machine.
[11:57] <Dwade09> jhon,  wine 1.2.1
[11:57] <lamalex> bullgard4, what are some examples of the daemons that handle them
[11:57] <jhon> Dwade09: That is ancient, update to 1.3.9
[11:57] <jhon> to start with
[11:57] <Dwade09> jhon,  how do i update it in the terminal?
[11:58] <jhon> Dwade09: did you add the wine source to the repo list?
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> !wine | Dwade09
[11:58] <Dwade09> jhon,  no, i just done it through package manager
[11:59] <trojanking> sacarlson
[11:59] <trojanking> sacarlton
[11:59] <jhon> Dwade09: then first you have to add the wine source to the list, update and then install
[11:59] <jhon> will help ya in private
[11:59] <SN4K3> How do u uninstall gnome ? because I installed openbox and I like it better?
[12:00] <jhon> SN4K3: Sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> SN4K3:  best to just leave gnome installed...
[12:00] <jhon> thats the agressive way
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> SN4K3:  select openbox at the gdm screen. and use openbox.
[12:00] <SN4K3> thnx jhon
[12:00] <jhon> dont do it tho
[12:01] <jhon> Ubuntu is BASED on Gnome
[12:01] <jhon> if you remove it, it may seriously cripple the whole thing
[12:01] <Dr_Willis> gnome = the whole desktop + support ttools.. openbox = just a window manager.
[12:01] <bullgard4> lamalex: acpid
[12:01] <SN4K3> Dr_Willis, I want to remove gnome cuz i want to install it on a low performace system
[12:01] <Dr_Willis> SN4K3:  just selecting openbox at the login screen will be enough.
[12:01] <Dr_Willis> SN4K3:  go ahead and try to remove gnome.. you will proberly be putting it back on real fast...
[12:02] <SN4K3> lol k ill take ur advice
[12:02] <jhon> indeed :)
[12:02] <lamalex> bullgard4, I think I found my real answer, gnome-power-manager does screen brightness and hotkey handling
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> assuming that removing gnome - dosent break your networking....
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> and you wouldbe able to reinstall gnome..
[12:02] <jhon> if you are using WICD manager
[12:02] <jhon> instead of gnome-network manager
[12:02] <jhon> then no
[12:03] <jhon> if you are using the second one ... yes ... you are screwed
[12:03] <SN4K3> wat window manager or desktop environment do u guys use ?
[12:03] <SN4K3> and yes i use wicd !
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> SN4K3:  most of us are using GNome i imagine.
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> If you have a low end box. check out Lubuntu
[12:04] <jhon> There are a lot of managers out there
[12:04] <jhon> Gnome uses moderate resources, but pretty much complete
[12:04] <jhon> KDE is a resrouce hog
[12:04] <jhon> XFCE is relatively light
[12:04] <SN4K3> i actually wanted to install it on "prehistoric" computer :P
[12:05] <tsimpson> jhon: KDE and Gnome are about equal in resource usage actually
[12:05] <Dr_Willis> SN4K3:  state the specs...
[12:05] <jhon> Not really
[12:05] <jhon> KDE uses 1 GB ram
[12:05] <SN4K3> old one?
[12:05] <jhon> gnome uses 512 MB
[12:05] <tsimpson> jhon: heh, no it doesn't
[12:05] <Dr_Willis> SN4K3:  I have a Timex Sinclare 1000, thats OLD.... :)
[12:05] <jhon> i wouldnt call that even
[12:05] <SN4K3> hahaha
[12:05] <Dr_Willis> jhon:  benchmarks ive seen. put the 2 about the same...
[12:06] <Dr_Willis> but that was a year ago.
[12:06] <jhon> you have other options ofc
[12:06] <Dr_Willis> Lubuntu won the 'resource' battle. but that was with an old version of Lubuntu also.
[12:06] <jhon> Fluxbox is very low tech, but uses minimum resources
[12:07] <jhon> IceVM looks like Windows 95, but only uses a couple MB of ram
[12:07] <SN4K3> my new system is gr8 but im pretty much a minimalist
[12:07] <Dr_Willis> fluxbox is just a window manager.. so of course it uses less resources then a full 'desktop'
[12:07] <donqi> anyone here knows where can i get a CC to fill my skype account ?
[12:08] <donqi> anyone here knows where can i get a CC to fill my skype account ?
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> Thers dozens+ of Old window maangers still around that use very few resources..becuse when they were written..  they were 'hogs' and now pc's have grown greately.
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> donqi:  go to the bank and get one?
[12:08] <donqi> lol
[12:08] <SN4K3> my gnome setup uses below 400Mb and my openbox uses below 200MB
[12:09] <Dr_Willis> SN4K3:  and wmii and jwm proberly use even less...
[12:09] <SN4K3> is ubuntu minimal install worth ?
[12:09] <Dr_Willis> SN4K3:  depedns on your needs.
[12:09] <jhon> If you wanna run Liunx on a 486
[12:09] <Dr_Willis> I dont see much point in going 'minimal' when you have  a machine with the powar to do  other things
[12:09] <jhon> I suggest using DSL Linux
[12:10] <SN4K3> mostly i want performance to play games using wine :P
[12:10] <iwantoknow> hi
[12:10] <iwantoknow> is it possible to set failsave graphic mode as default boot option?
[12:10] <Dr_Willis> SN4K3:  i doubt if the desktop ussage will matter that much then past a certin point.
[12:11] <jhon> SN4K3: Gnome is just good for that
[12:11] <Linux_Galore> actually i remember reading about a proper distro (not dsl) aimed at users who either collect or like to use old hardware
[12:11] <Linux_Galore> they even still use the 2.4 kernel tree
[12:11] <Dr_Willis> Linux_Galore:  theres a puppy variant that just came out for that target. but puppy is not always 'proper'
[12:11] <SN4K3> so arch and other minimal install systems wont give u that much of a boost?
[12:12] <Dr_Willis> SN4K3:  doubtfull..
[12:12] <Linux_Galore> the problem with the 2.6 kernel is support for a pile of old hardware has been dropped
[12:12] <iwantoknow> hi can i ask for your help? Is it possible to set failsave graphic mode as default boot option?
[12:13] <Dr_Willis> iwantoknow:  ive never noticed that feature, or what the option wouldbe on the grub line to enable it.. if you neew the option. it would be possible to add custom grub entries
[12:13] <jhon> SN4K3: I run EVE and WC III from Wine, and they work great from gnome
[12:13] <SN4K3> jhon, k
[12:13] <SN4K3> jhon, tried cod4?
[12:14] <sresu_> Which package finds reading and writing speed of HDD?
[12:14] <r00t4rd3d> donqi, http://wikileaks.ch/cable/2010/02/10ABUDHABI103.html
[12:14] <trojanking> when i click ubuntu software center nothing comes up i only see Starting Up Ubuntu Software Center.... please help
[12:15] <Dr_Willis> trojanking:  try update/upgradeing from a terminal.
[12:15] <jhon> SN4K3:http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=12804
[12:15] <jhon> pretty much says it all
[12:15] <Dr_Willis> trojanking:  terminal -> 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[12:16] <SN4K3> jhon, lol no i mean do u like fps games?
[12:16] <donqi> anyone here knows where can i get a CreditCard to fill my skype account ?
[12:16] <donqi> anyone here knows where can i get a CreditCard to fill my skype account ?
[12:16] <donqi> anyone here knows where can i get a CreditCard to fill my skype account ?
[12:16] <FloodBot2> donqi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:17] <SN4K3> donqi, try some other channel this is ubuntu
[12:17] <jhon> SN4K3: Not much of a fan of FPS games, except for a few Legacy games, more of a strategy, RPG, and Micromanagement guy
[12:17] <SN4K3> jhon, starcraft?
[12:17] <r00t4rd3d> aka farmville
[12:17] <SN4K3> lol
[12:17] <iwantoknow> Dr_Willis, I have recently done upgrade from10.04 to 10.10 ubuntu. And I get CLI, but if I go through recovery mode I am able to get graphical interface. Is there file where I can set default video mode or something?
[12:17] <Dr_Willis> Farmville =  barely a game. :)
[12:18] <bros> 6665546
[12:18] <bros> sorry
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> iwantoknow:   whats yoru video chipset?
[12:18] <jhon> SN4K3: Used to play SC 1 with BW in Lan, havent played it for ages tho
[12:18] <bros> I would like to once and for all settle the conflicting information about SSDs.
[12:18] <SN4K3> i used to play starcraft but mostly got my a** kicked :P
[12:18] <Raydiation> hi i changed my graficscard from geforce gt 9600 to amd radeon 5850 and now i dont get a gui any more when i boot
[12:18] <Raydiation> nvidia driver is already uninstalled
[12:19] <Dr_Willis> bros:  but new ones keep comming out :)  seen  some uber tiny ones due out soon.
[12:19] <bros> What file system should I use for my SSD? Journaled, non-journaled?
[12:19] <bros> Dr_Willis: more about the configuration options with them
[12:19] <SN4K3> i had like a win to loose ratio of 1:5
[12:19] <bros> Is TRIM automatically enabled or does discard have to be added as a mount option?
[12:19] <bros> Should I really set noatime? What about nodiratime?
[12:19] <SN4K3> anyone here tried to install photoshop cs5 in wine?
[12:19] <bros> Should I disable swap? Mount /tmp into RAM? What else can I mount into RAM?
[12:19] <nostro> hey there people. can anyone tell me if UTOUCH was really implemented in 10.10 maverick?
[12:19] <Dr_Willis> bros:  from  what ive heard. ext4  works. and  with newer drives. those options are not needed.. but you proberly should reserch your specific drive.
[12:19] <Raydiation> after booting the display enters sleep mode
[12:20] <trojanking> Dr_Willis, http://paste.ubuntu.com/549064/
[12:20] <SN4K3> heard it works great with a few tweaks
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> bros:  I dont see much need to dosable swap.
[12:20] <bros> Dr_Willis: from what I read, TRIM doesn't work with ext4/journaled
[12:20] <Shruikhan> Hallo
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> bros:  i thought i read where its allready there in newer kenels. but this was 5mo ago.
[12:21] <Dr_Willis> bros:  but that may of been for btrfs..  i cant keep up
[12:21] <Shruikhan> Had someone success activating the notebook subwoofer??
[12:21] <Dr_Willis> trojanking:  did you do like it suggests --> You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these.
[12:21] <Raydiation> is the radeon 5850 supported?
[12:21] <Dr_Willis> trojanking:  or youmay want to remove skype for now. then reinstall it later
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> bros:  checking wikipedia --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_drive#Linux_systems
[12:24] <SN4K3> Almost forgot
[12:24] <SN4K3> Happy New Year to Everyone
[12:24] <SN4K3> gtg
[12:25] <alfred> I need a help with copying a folder from my older laptop to the new one, the problem is I do not know the exact form of "path " in both computer (I am using remote view SSH)
[12:25] <nostro> can anyone tell me if UTOUCH was really implemented in 10.10 maverick?
[12:25] <gobbe> alfred: pwd will tell path
[12:26] <alfred> gobbe, the program psw is currently not installed.
[12:26] <alfred> that s what Iget
[12:26] <gobbe> pwd?
[12:26] <gobbe> not psw
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> pwd = 'print working directory' shows where you are 'at'
[12:26] <alfred> gobbe :)
[12:26] <alfred> gobbe you are right
[12:27] <alfred> ls
[12:27] <srini> SANE: error during io core 9. what does mean how to solve it?
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> srini:  check the ubuntu forums yet?
[12:29] <ubuman> how come autoraise isn't working on this live cd?
[12:29]  * ubuman fricking hates click to focus!
[12:29] <tristan3199us1> is anyone here familiar with windows librarys, im looking for a window manager or file manager that has librarys that include mutiple directories in one spot.. anything like that available??
[12:30] <srini> Dr_Willis :  I checked. But i dont get ans
[12:30] <rumpe1> tristan3199us1, multiple dirs in one spot?
[12:31] <WhatWhereAmI> tristan3199us1, yeah, i have no idea what you're talking about.
[12:31] <ubuman> rumpe1 yeah I didn't want to ask
[12:31] <rumpe1> perhaps he means something like F3 in nautilus ^^
[12:31] <jhon> tristan3199us1: if you are looking for a file manager that does everything Krusader is the closest one
[12:32] <jhon> tristan3199us1: its a TC clone
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> tristan3199us1:  its not clear what youa re looking for excactly.
[12:32] <ubuman> I like xfm
[12:32] <ubuman> it is a lot like windows explorer
[12:32] <tristan3199us1> rumpe1:  yes i use different downloaders that download to different locations on the disk.. with windows i could see like twelve directories in the same window as one
[12:32] <trojanking> please where are my screenshot saved
[12:32] <iwantoknow> Dr_Willis, the card is NVidia GeForce Go7600, but I suppose the card is partly broken. When I used to run 10.04 ubuntu at launching ubuntu used to notice that graphic will be in low mode. But now after upgrade I need to go through all these Grub option to get low graphic mode..
[12:32] <tristan3199us1> krusader??
[12:32] <tristan3199us1> ill try.. it replaces nautilus??
[12:32] <trojanking> i took a screenshot and dont know where to see it
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> tristan3199us1:  you want to duplicate teh windows7 libraries feature then is what you are saying.
[12:33] <ubuman> trojanking checked your home directory?
[12:33] <tristan3199us1> yes dr willis
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> tristan3199us1:  i think theres some 'fuse' tools that could sort of emulate that effect.
[12:33] <tristan3199us1> im not the best at saying what i need..
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> I saw some fuse fs. that could  'overlay' several differnt directories. onto one single directory. then all file managers/tools would work with it.
[12:34] <tristan3199us1> im newish to linux.. do i sudo apt-get fuse
[12:34] <ubuman> I've mounted stuff in the same place man does that cause problems!
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> You would proberly want to go to the fuse homepage and read up on fuse.
[12:34] <tristan3199us1> thanks dr
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> tristan3199us1:  Fuse is a very powerfull   thing.t hat has dozens of 'special' filesystems
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> !fuse
[12:34] <iwantoknow> Dr_Willis, the card is NVidia GeForce Go7600, but I suppose the card is partly broken. When I used to run 10.04 ubuntu at launching ubuntu used to notice that graphic will be in low mode. But now after upgrade I need to go through all these Grub option to get low graphic mode..
[12:35] <alfred> gobbe, but I need to specify the user... look at this command (btw, I am trying to move files from alfred@alfred-laptop o alfred@james)
[12:35] <jhon> tristan3199us1: if I understand what your saying you want different directories to be shown from the same directory
[12:35] <ubuman> anyhow how do I get windows to autoraise in the live CD I been to windows under system > Preferences and changed it there but it doesn't work!
[12:35] <jhon> tristan3199us1: in that case all you have to do is set up some symbolic links
[12:35] <tristan3199us1> jhon: yes
[12:36] <tristan3199us1> is this simple??
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> iwantoknow:  try the nomodeset option, perhaps.. or reinstall the nvidia drivers.. I never upgrade normally. i do clean isntalls. and i know formy nvidia systems i have to use 'nomodeset' to boot/install initially, untill i get the nvidia drivers installed.
[12:36] <ubuman> tristan3199us1 can you type ln -s ?
[12:36] <m4k> not able to install mysql on 10.04 after doing apt-get install it fetches the packages and stops after "Setting up mysql-server-5.1 (5.1.41-3ubuntu12.8) .."
[12:36] <jhon> tristan3199us1: you create 1 folder, and fill it with symbolic links pointing to different directories
[12:36] <zs1otb-> hi, I've upgraded to 10.04. My movie player and VLC plays audio but no video in any format. I have installed libdvdcss2 etc. but still no video..
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> a directory of soft links is not 'quiet' the same as how win7's library works.
[12:37] <ubuman> Dr_Willis well that is a comfort
[12:37] <tristan3199us1> so in terminal type LN -s
[12:37] <ubuman> tristan3199us1 no
[12:37] <ubuman> tristan3199us1 linux like all grown up OSes is case sensitive
[12:38] <zs1otb-> hi, I've upgraded to 10.04. My movie player and VLC plays audio but no video in any format. I have installed libdvdcss2 etc. but still no video..
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> !info unionfs-fuse
[12:38] <tristan3199us1> lol.. i know.. just checking it was accually an Ln not In
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> tristan3199us1:  unionfs-fuse sort of does what you want. but it willneed some configiraton
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> http://podgorny.cz/moin/UnionFsFuse
[12:39] <tristan3199us1> dr_willis: thanks, in progress now..
[12:39] <zs1otb-> hi, I've upgraded to 10.04. My movie player and VLC plays audio but no video in any format. I have installed libdvdcss2 etc. but still no video.. anybody with some ideas?
[12:39] <kohlrak> anyone know how to find an IME for chinese with a dictionary editor for it?
[12:39] <ubuman> zs1otb- doesn't mplayer have a built in cracker these days?
[12:39] <zs1otb-> does not seem like it no
[12:40] <kohlrak> i see
[12:40] <kohlrak> !cn | kohlrak
[12:41] <ubuman> man this is driving me nuts I'm getting focus follows mouse but the windows just aren't raising
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> zs1otb-:  you mean  avi and other files dont play either? run vlc from terminal, look for error messages
[12:41] <tristan3199us1> dr_willis: run install-sh?
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> tristan3199us1:  hmm?
[12:41] <oneliner> ok so my motherboard has six sound jacks, how could i use em all? the standard sound driver seems to only care for two (1 in 1 out)
[12:41] <zs1otb-> let me see quickly
[12:41] <ubuman> oneliner ha ha
[12:42] <tristan3199us1> i downloaded the fuse package. and have 30 files..
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> oneliner:  if you have actual 7.1+ sound out. it proberly would use more of the ports.
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> tristan3199us1:  sudo apt-get install unionfs-fuse and check its docs/man page.. ive neer used  that specific fuse fs.
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> tristan3199us1:  ive NO idea where you came up with 'run install-sh' from...
[12:43] <ubuman> Dr_Willis common in readmes
[12:43] <tristan3199us1> sorry.. i downloaded some tar.gz it was one of the files..
[12:43] <phc> Hi
[12:43] <tristan3199us1> im still quite new
[12:43] <ubuman> tristan3199us1 chmod +x install-sh && ./install-sh
 No video but audio on avi.. running vlc from terminal. It used to wrok in 9.10 but after upgrade to 10.04 no video
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> ubuman:  cant recall EVER seeing a install-sh in anything ive ever used in the many years ive used linux.
[12:44] <ubuman> Dr_Willis do more what can I tell you?
[12:44] <tristan3199us1> ubuman: i dont speak linux yet.. im learning.. take it easy on me.. lol.. should i type that in terminal and what does it do.
[12:45] <ubuman> Dr_Willis I have plenty of times
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> perhaps a install.sh  :) but no -sh
[12:45] <ubuman> tristan3199us1 chmod changes the file mode +x makes a file exetutable ./ is because CWD isn't on your path by default
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> tristan3199us1:  you are doing it totally wrong.
[12:46] <tristan3199us1> click the link dr-willis gave me and you get a compressed file with a install-sh file as one of the thirty.. i just noticed that one becase it says install..
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> tristan3199us1:  use the package manager tool to install the unionfs-fuse package.
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> tristan3199us1: ---------------------->    sudo apt-get install unionfs-fuse and check its docs/man page.. ive neer used  that specific fuse fs.
[12:46] <tristan3199us1> i got it..
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> quick google on unionfs-fuse found -> http://community.livejournal.com/linux/1854385.html
[12:47] <NastX> hi, is there a possibility to install xfce-notifyd with kdebase-runtime
 any idea of waht to do with the video problem on 10.04
[12:47] <ubuman> tristan3199us1 if you are really new do srick with your distribution's package manager for a bit though
[12:47] <tristan3199us1> in progress.. im embarrased by the way.. i dont mean to be computer illiterate.. it just happend..
[12:47] <oneliner> any apps to dinamically asign function to jacks on soundboard? or is it more like a mix and swap kinda thing for configuration?
[12:47] <Linux_Galore> NastX: just install xubuntu then add the kde stuff you want
[12:47] <kohlrak> !jp | kohlrak
[12:48] <tristan3199us1> fuse installing.. checking docs now.. thanks willis
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> zs1otb-:  for my nvidia systems. i use the nomodeset option at times. thats about it. then i install the nvidia drivers and they work.
[12:48] <ubuman> well 10.10 live cd is broken windoss don't autoraise right
[12:48] <TopGear> hello
[12:48] <TopGear> Just installed "crossover-games-sources-9.2.0 ". But what should I do now, to install, let's say, GTA SA?
[12:48] <zsharon> I have xfce 4.6.2 installed through apt, but there's a feature in 4.7 that I'd like to have.  I'd prefer not compile something from source for a minor feature, though.  How much of a pain will it probably be if I do so?  The component I want is xfce4-panel, so can I just compile/install that from source without disturbing the rest of xfce?
[12:49] <ubuman> TopGear get a quake engine called darkplaces and retro game man!
[12:49] <tristan3199us1> so i guess a shell script is not like a windows bat file..
[12:49] <NastX> Linux_Galore, no if i install an kde based app my xfce-notifyd breaks btw kdebase-runtime delivers a notification-daemon that uninstalls xfce-notifyd
[12:49] <TopGear> ubuman: nah, mta sa rulez :p
 nvidia drivers, instaal from the command line?
[12:49] <ubuman> TopGear I don't know you ever seen darkplaces run quoth?
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> TopGear:  well if you were using the normal wine, you would pop in the cd of the game and use 'wine /media/DVDdiskname/installername.exe'
[12:49] <NastX> Linux_Galore,  in #kde they said that this notification-daemon is not from them
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> zs1otb-:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current, or try 'sudo jockey-text'
[12:50] <TopGear> Dr_Willis: I know, but I love to do it the hard way, to learn more ;)
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> tristan3199us1:  a shell script can be any of several dozen languages in linux.
[12:50] <ubuman> TopGear there is always arch for that
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> tristan3199us1:  windows.bat = dos commands.
[12:50] <Linux_Galore> NastX: ouch
[12:51] <NastX> so i came here (-;
[12:51] <tristan3199us1> i see.. thank you.. if i bug with dumb questions tell me..
[12:51] <TopGear> ubuman: I know. Ruined my pc. Oracle VirtualBOX decided to use my own /root for the Arch VM!
[12:51] <ubuman> TopGear those arch loons really have to put down the crack pipeQ
[12:51] <kohlrak> !cn | kohlrak
[12:52] <kohlrak> sorry, it won't let me test in a private message =p
 busy installing, will let you know
[12:52] <rww> ubuman: Keep the distro rivalries out of here, please ;P
[12:52] <Linux_Galore> NastX: when I am doing stuff like that I usually run the install under separate virtual machines to avoid those conflicts
[12:52] <ubuman> rww what rivalries?
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> we all know that ubuntu is the besestest!
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> :)
[12:53] <NastX> Linux_Galore, ? i am just using apt to install xfce-notifyd and then it says i want to remove kdebase-runtime(and all kde based apps) and this keeps bugging me
[12:53] <ubuman> Dr_Willis well.. I'd have to give that award to Ubuntu's big daddy
[12:54] <NastX> and i dont want to have a vbox for k3b and kopete
[12:54] <oneliner> mix&match 7.1 right out of the box!
[12:55] <zsharon> NastX: If those kde apps aren't immediately essential, why don't you try going ahead with removing them when prompted, then try to reinstall them?
[12:55] <ubuman> zsharon that's just silly
[12:55] <NastX> then it tries to remove xfce-notifyd because of the install of kdebase-runtime
[12:55] <zsharon> ubuman, do you have a better idea?
[12:56] <ubuman> zsharon there is a way to tell deb not to remove packages
[12:56] <zsharon> ubuman, then how about you enlighten NastX? :)
[12:56] <oneliner> i have to say, 10.10 is such a huge improvement on hardware detection, now if only i could youtube running smoothly,.. (hint :) )
[12:56] <ubuman> zsharon no my yob mon
[12:56] <Tito0096> can someone help me edit grub
[12:56] <NastX> ubuman, yes there us but thats very ugly
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> oneliner:  send the hint to adobe..
[12:57] <Tito0096> to allow Windows 7 to boot from it?
[12:57] <tristan3199us1> why does my firefox now say Namoroka
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> oneliner:  you do realize that youtube can use HTML5 now for most videos?
[12:57] <zsharon> ubuman, I see, your job is to naysay, not to help.  Okay.
[12:57] <NastX> with ubuntu 10.04 it worked but 10.10 not
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> tristan3199us1:  thats the codename for the beta version i think.
[12:57] <oneliner> Dr_Willis: how do i tell the browser to try the html5 page?
[12:57] <TopGear> ah, it's "wineloader nameofthegame.exe"
[12:57] <ubuman> zsharon my grandma always used to say God helps those who help themselves
[12:58] <Dr_Willis>   --->  youtube.com/html5
[12:58] <oneliner> ah
[12:58] <ubuman> zsharon all I came in to do was to tall yo uall that 10.10 live CD has a bug in it
[12:58] <Tito0096> Dr_Willis: how would I edit grub to allow Windows 7 to boot from it
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> Tito0096:  sudo update-grub  'should' see and add a windw7 entry. or make one in /etc/grub.d/40_custom that boots the windows system
[12:59] <sahil> i'm having a problem with my OS
[12:59] <Tito0096> Dr_Willis thanks
[12:59] <sahil> I'm unable to mount my hard disk
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> sahil: you don't mount disks
[13:00] <ubuman> ActionParsnip he doesn't?
[13:00] <hihihi100_> yes, blender looks scary...
[13:00] <sahil> well, the problem is that I had my PC running on ubuntu
[13:00] <sahil> it malfunctioned and now it doesn't work
[13:00] <sahil> so i tried backing up all my data by running it using a tiny linux distro
[13:01] <sahil> when I try to access it through the live cd ... it says "unable to mount"
[13:01] <ohir> sahil: tiny does not have ext4
[13:01] <ubuman> sahil run fsck on it?
[13:01] <sahil> i ran dsl
[13:01] <zsharon> what exact command did you use?
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> ubuman: no, you mount partitions, not disks
[13:01] <NastX> so can someboby else help me?
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> sahil:  you can install ext4 support in tiny core linux. i belive
[13:02] <ubuman> ActionParsnip usually but you can mount disks as well or haven't you seen them shiny ones yet called CDs?
[13:02] <dmdevotee-ubuntu> hi!. can somebody help me? the "close", "maximize" and "minimize" buttons dissapeared on every window. (ubuntu 10.10)
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> ubuman: even if a partition occupys 100% of the disk, you still mount the partition
[13:02] <sahil> but how do I install stuff in live cd
[13:02] <ubuman> ActionParsnip depends yo ucan set it up to just mount the disk
[13:02] <sahil> i even used slitaz
[13:02] <ubuman> ActionParsnip I done it on usb sticks
[13:02] <sahil> it doesnt let me access the hard drives
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> ubuman: usb disks contain partitions, you mount the partition on the usb device
[13:03] <sahil> when i used open suse live CD ... it didnt show the hard disks
[13:03] <ohir> sahil get ubuntu live on usb pen
[13:03] <ubuman> ActionParsnip don't transfer your inadequecies onto me
[13:03] <Liaf|portable> hi @all
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> dmdevotee-ubuntu: press ALT+F2 and run:  metacity --replace
[13:03] <sahil> can I somehow get ubuntu live DVD to work through a thumb drive?
[13:04] <rww> !usb | sahil
[13:04] <ubuman> sahil I'm here now I used unetbootin to do it
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> ubuman: next time you mount a usb device, run:  mount    you will see it is  /dev/sdb1  or something like that, /dev/sdb  is the disk, /dev/sdb1  is the first primary partition
[13:04] <dmdevotee-ubuntu> actionparsnip alt + f2 does nothing for me
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> dmdevotee-ubuntu: or try it in a terminal
[13:04] <rgb247> I need some help
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> rgb247: wassup?
[13:04] <ubuman> ActionParsnip don't try to teach me because obviously I know more than you do
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> sahil:  that ounds more like the HD may have failed.
[13:04] <rgb247> I want to start to learn C#
[13:04] <zsharon> ActionParsnip: Don't feed the troll....
[13:05] <rgb247> I need an compilator/IDE
[13:05] <rajul_> buy yourself a book rgb247
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> ubuman: maybe in some aras, in this case you are incorrect
[13:05] <dmdevotee-ubuntu> actionparsinp thanks! it worked!
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> !ide | rgb247
[13:05] <rajul_> rgb247: and install MonoDevelop
[13:05] <sahil> I'll try to do what you said
[13:05] <ohir> dmdevotee-ubuntu: system->preferences->look n feel and chose default theme
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> dmdevotee-ubuntu: np, seems your system is having issue with compiz. Are you using an nvidia video chip?
[13:05] <sahil> will get back to you if any problem occurs
[13:05] <oneliner> always do what he says, or else!
[13:05] <sahil> thanks for now
[13:05] <rgb247> I installed monodevelop by typing : apt-get install mono-devel
[13:05] <rgb247> I readed from mono-project.com
[13:05] <rgb247> and now? what's next?
[13:06] <rgb247> how can I compile something?
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> read some tutorials on using mono perhaps?
[13:06] <zakwilson> I'm looking for a bluetooth stereo headset that works well with Ubuntu, for music, gaming and skype calls. Anybody have experience with one they'd like to share?
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> rgb247: could ask in the mono channel too
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | zakwilson
[13:06] <dmdevotee-ubuntu> actionparnip yes i installed compiz fusion and have a nvidia gpu
[13:06] <rgb247> mono have a channel here? on irc.freenode.net ?
[13:06] <lindow> hello evryone
[13:06] <trojanking> please i cant run sypanic packgage
[13:06] <ubuman> rgb247 devel lets you build against a package you want the source
[13:06] <gobbe> rgb247: http://monodevelop.com/Documentation what about using google
[13:06] <zsharon> zakwilson: I'd also look on ubuntuforums.org
[13:07] <dmdevotee-ubuntu> actionparsnip yes i installed compiz fusion and have a nvidia gpu
[13:07] <rgb247> thanks you
[13:07] <zakwilson> ActionParsnip: thanks, that covers the "works" bit. I'd still like to hear from anybody who uses such a device for input on sound quality, ergonomics, etc...
[13:07] <ubuman> I wonder if that compiz is running?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> dmdevotee-ubuntu: you may need some options in xorg.conf to define some extra options. I'd also ask in #compiz
[13:07] <trojanking> Please help my Ubuntu is confused, I cant see any Synaptic Packager Opened, But the Idiot Ubuntu says its runing
[13:08] <ubuman> trojanking heh!
[13:08] <trojanking> ubuman, yes am serious its really crazy
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> dmdevotee-ubuntu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=649480  the missing thing is called the window decorator. You could also try installing emerald too
[13:08] <dmdevotee-ubuntu> actionparsnip thanks! i would do that because i installed compiz to have windows in cascade and that stuff
[13:08] <jhon> trojanking: kill the process and restart it
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> !fixapt | trojanking
[13:08] <ubuman> trojanking could be a stale lock file or something
[13:09] <trojanking> ubottu, thanks i have tried it nothing happenned
[13:10] <ubuman> trojanking ubottu, is a bot
[13:10] <zakwilson> Actually, the HCL doesn't have a category appropriate for bluetooth headsets, and doesn't seem to mention them under a couple other categories that seemed appropriate.
[13:10] <rgb247> :))
[13:10] <trojanking> lol
[13:10] <sahil> hey if i use lubuntu will I be able to access my HDD
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> sahil:  most disrtos can access ext4 fs's - Unless theres an actual issue with your hard drive dieing.
[13:10] <trojanking> Please help my Ubuntu is confused, I cant see any Synaptic Packager Opened, But the Idiot Ubuntu says its runing
[13:10] <nostro> has anyone seen a ubuntu tablet before?
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> !fixapt | trojanking
[13:11] <sahil> so.. if there is an actual issue..
[13:11] <trojanking> I have tried the command how can i kill it
[13:11] <sahil> what do i Do
[13:11] <ubuman> is ext4 so wonked that ext2 can't access it?
[13:11] <ubuman> glad i don't use that nonsense if thats the case!
[13:11] <trojanking> Dr_Willis
[13:11] <trojanking> what do i do
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> sahil:  boot a ubuntu/variant live cd. see if it can see it.. check dmesg output for errors. try mounting it by hand...
[13:11] <trojanking> just past that in terminla?
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> trojanking:  you 'try this in a terminal......' yes....
[13:11] <sahil> try mouting it by hand?????
[13:11] <ubuman> I didn't like ext4 because it spawned so many processes
[13:12] <sahil> most of the distros can "see" the HDD... but cant access it
[13:12] <trojanking> Dr_Willis, this is what my only stupid ubuntu says -bash: !fixapt: event not found
[13:12] <sahil> mounting issues..
[13:12] <Dr_Willis>  trojanking  read what the thing says..   you use the  <<STUFF IN HERE >>  not the whole line.
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> btween the << >>
[13:13] <ubuman> sahil I've only been in here a little while and you're not the only one with filesystem access issues and ext4 I've seen
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> sahil:  try to mount it by hand. see if any error messages show up.
[13:13] <ubuman> for that reason alone I wouldn't use the fs for anything important
[13:14] <sahil> ok
[13:14] <trojanking> yes that is what i did Dr_Willis
[13:14] <vinux> 4 what
[13:14] <Xin> anyone here?
[13:14] <rgb247> I have a new question
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> Xin:  1300+ people here...
[13:14] <skorv> hi i have this problem as discribed here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=768389
[13:14] <rgb247> does MonoDevelop works with ubuntu 10.10 ?
[13:14] <ubuman> wow i have a remarkably low load average for ubuntu
[13:15] <skorv> the answer is "You have to setup Shares in Ubuntu and made that drive a share. Then you have to have Samba installed to access the drive, using your smb password to do it"
[13:15] <skorv> ok i know what samba is
[13:15] <oneliner> Dr_Willis: so i downloaded the bz2 file for firefox4, how should i work around installing?
[13:15] <skorv> but the 1st step i'm kind of clueless
[13:15] <gobbe> rgb247: yest it does
[13:15] <iLinux> how to remove ubuntu from your OS? coz my friend want to remove it.
[13:16] <Xin> i want to open a html source code and get a particular line from it. I cant use grep. Help??! PLease
[13:16] <skorv> what does it meen "setup Shares"
[13:16] <jhon> ILinux: running rm fs as root should pretty much do it:)
[13:16] <rs0832> Xin, use gedit
[13:16] <iLinux> john: i don't have any root users.
[13:16] <Xin> i want to automate it :/
[13:16] <ubuman> iLinux dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda*
[13:16] <trojan_spike> iLinux, whats it dual boot with?
[13:16] <Xin> ther are lots of files
[13:16] <skorv> help!
[13:16] <Xin> i am programming a shell script
[13:16] <Xin> rs0832
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> oneliner:  if its the binary.. extract it to a dir.. cd into th dir.. run the binary.. no need to 'install'
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> Xin: try:  head -n linenum filename.html | tail -n 1
[13:17] <iLinux> trojan_spike: Win7
[13:17] <trojanking> how do i get pidgin for ubuntu 10
[13:17] <rs0832> Xin, ah ok
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> trojanking: sudo apt-get install pidgin
[13:17] <Xin> how do i store it in a txt file?
[13:17] <skorv> sudo apt-get pidgin (i guess)
[13:17] <skorv> forgot the install d'oh!
[13:17] <rs0832> trojanking, did you finally manage to set up your connection?
[13:17] <trojan_spike> iLinux, and u just want to completely remove the ubuntu OS?? or just some software?
[13:18] <me__> pls tell me how can i list installed apps in my ubuntu in terminal
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> Xin: on the end add:   > filename     and it will output the line to the filename
[13:18] <iLinux> trojan_spike: completely the OS (my friend asks me to remove ubuntu OS from his comp.)
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> me__: dpkg -l | less
[13:18] <ubuman> me__ dpkg -l | grep ii
[13:18] <Xin> ActionParsnip, thanks
[13:18] <zsharon> iLinux: Is it installed by Wubi?
[13:18] <skorv> the answer is "You have to setup Shares in Ubuntu and made that drive a share. Then you have to have Samba installed to access the drive, using your smb password to do it"
[13:18] <fixer_33> witam
[13:18] <iLinux> zsharon: Yup.
[13:18] <ubuman> ActionParsnip doesn't dpkg -l just spit out every package?
[13:18] <rgb247> and MonoDevelop for ubuntu 10.10 you've downloaded from badgerports.org ?
[13:19] <NastX> yeah cool found a workaround for ubuntu
[13:19] <NastX> with the beta archive of kde it works
[13:19] <skorv> setup shares in ubuntu
[13:19] <skorv> how do i do that
[13:19] <iLinux> zsharon: yes. with wubi
[13:19] <zsharon> iLinux: I've never used Wubi, but I'd guess that you go to Add/Remove programs and remove it like any other software.
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> ubuman: yes, that was what was requested with: "how can i list installed apps in my ubuntu in terminal"  wouldn't you say?
[13:19] <rww> iLinux: boot into Windows, run the uninstaller from Windows' Control Panel.
[13:19] <dmdevotee-ubuntu> actionparsnip : hi again! i have a problem with "metacity --replace". i can't close terminal cause it would cancel a process. when i close it, buttons go again
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> skorv: sudo apt-get install samba    then use nautilus.
[13:19] <ubuman> ActionParsnip no they asked for what was installed
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> ubuman: yes, that will list installed packages
[13:20] <trojan_spike> rww, hes away,, plus window commends need to be kept in PM or #windows
[13:20] <trojan_spike> comments
[13:20] <iLinux> dmdvotee-ubuntu: does it has: emerald --replace or compiz --replace in the Startup Applications?
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> dmdevotee-ubuntu: thats because the terminal is the parent, if you can do it in an ALT+F2 dialogue it will be ok
[13:20] <rww> trojan_spike: Instructions for removing Wubi are on-topic for this channel.
[13:20] <zsharon> yup
[13:21] <ubuman> ActionParsnip hmm maybe it is different in debian
[13:21] <skorv> ok... if i need further help i'll come back
[13:21] <trojan_spike> rww, is it wubi tho?? thats pretty straight forward to uninstall.. i think its full installed
[13:21] <me__> how can i list currently running apps in terminal
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> ubuman: who cares, this is ubuntu support
[13:21] <ubuman> me__ ps aux
[13:21] <NastX> Linux_Galore, it has something to do with the changes that the (k)ubuntu devs did to kde, with the beta ppa of kde it works
[13:21] <rww> trojan_spike: Considering that he specifically said it was, I'm going to go with 'yes'.
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> me__: ps -ef | less
[13:21] <ubuman> ActionParsnip I do I'm only running an ubuntu live CD at the moment
[13:22] <trojan_spike> rww, :)
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> ubuman: well this is Ubuntu support, so what debian does is moot
[13:22] <trojan_spike> rww, my appols
[13:22] <ubuman> ActionParsnip well ubuntu does use debian's package management system so there is some overlap
[13:22] <zsharon> rww: I think he means that iLinux may have installed ubuntu, as in the permanent version, via wubi.  But, now removing it should be done by deleting the partition.  Unless iLinux speaks up, we may never know.....
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> ubuman: maybe but its still of no value, this is ubuntu support
[13:23] <trojanking> please how can i install skype for ubuntu 10.10
[13:23] <trojan_spike> zsharon, it just an uninstall with wubi
[13:23] <me__> ActionParsnip: wat happen if i not type less????
[13:23] <rww> zsharon: Wubi installs Ubuntu as a file inside the Windows partition. There is no way to do a 'permanent' install via Wubi.
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> trojanking: add the partnet repo (enable it in software centre) and then install as you would any other app
[13:23] <iLinux> how come...
[13:23] <rgb247> trojan_spike: visit skype.com, you can download a linux version from there
[13:24] <zsharon> Okay.  As I said, I've never used it.  I was under the impression that Wubi has several install options.
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> me__: it will just scroll, less lets you view the output at your leisure (use cursor to scroll up and down)
[13:24] <iLinux> ok, ok, i have installed ubuntu via wubi in my friend's comp. But it says before install. "Restart your computer."
[13:24] <trojanking> how do i add the parnet repo and enable it in software centre
[13:24] <iLinux> still in windows
[13:24] <rww> ubottu: partner | trojan_spike
[13:24] <rww> eep, mistab
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> iLinux: yes, it reboots to continue the install
[13:24] <rww> trojanking: see ubottu's last
[13:25] <me__> ActionParsnip: ok nd how can i list apps dat r running from the time my lappi started to that moment
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> trojanking: in software centre, edit -> sources
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> me__: how do you mean?
[13:26] <ubuman> me__ trhere is command history less ~/.bash_history
[13:26] <wyclif> is backing up /home directory
[13:26] <iLinux> sorry, wubi is on-topic right. I just think i must join win32 channel help.
[13:26] <ubuman> me__ b ut that won't show you everything that ran
[13:26] <me__> ActionParsnip: i mean i want to list all the currently running apps in order of which started earlier than other just after my booting?
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> me__: hmm, likeorder by start time...
[13:27] <trojan_spike> rww, why i sending me that?
[13:27] <iLinux> it's difficult huh removing ubuntu
[13:27] <ubuman> me__ ps aux will show you everything running now pstree will too
[13:27] <rww> trojan_spike: I mistabbed, sorry
[13:27] <me__> ActionParsnip: yup
[13:27] <trojan_spike> kk
[13:28] <trojanking> my software center dont show up when i click it
[13:28] <zsharon> iLinux: This is the correct channel for your question.  You should look to see if there's a wubi channel though.
[13:28] <me__> ubuman: thnks !!!!!!it workd
[13:29] <zsharon> iLinux: I guess I should say that this is *a* correct channel.
[13:29] <powerinside> Anyone know of some way that can force my distro to upgrade to 10.10?
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> me__: man ps    may show how you can order the output of the command
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> powerinside: from which release?
[13:29] <ubuman> powerinside you can edit your /etc/sources.list file
[13:29] <powerinside> ActionParsnip: from 10.04 kubuntu
[13:29] <rww> ubuman: editing sources.list to upgrade is not a supported method
[13:30] <zsharon> powerinside:  by default, synatptic won't show new releases since it's LTS.
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> powerinside: no need to force anything at all the
[13:30] <rww> ubottu: upgrade | powerinside
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | powerinside
[13:30] <ubuman> rww shame it can work well
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> powerinside: use the server upgrade, its way easier imo
[13:30] <trojan_spike> powerinside, u must be on LTS,, in update-manager// settings // >release upgrade option>> change that to normal release
[13:30] <zsharon> powerinside:  I've forgotten exactly how I did it, but there's an option to show the new release.
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> powerinside: the guide shows what file to edit to make the OS expect normal upgrades rather than sticking to LTS releases
[13:31] <raar> it's in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades, Prompt=normal
[13:31] <trojanking> ActionParsnip, i tried to run software center it failed and i tried all this commands still failed help http://paste.ubuntu.com/549086/
[13:32] <raar> no 'install'
[13:32] <ubuman> what is a command to list users I want to know why i have 11 users going now
[13:32] <raar> apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:32] <zsharon> w
[13:32] <rww> ubuman: because the command you're using counts each open terminal as a new user
[13:32] <zsharon> ubuman: w
[13:32] <ubuman> I find 11 users troubling
[13:32] <Tito0096> Dr_Willis whats the command to update grub again?
[13:33] <trojanking>  i tried to run software center it failed and i tried all this commands still failed help http://paste.ubuntu.com/549086/
[13:33] <Zvrk> Happy New Year
[13:33] <raar> trojanking: no 'install'
[13:33] <ubuman> rww that is odd I run terminals and don't end up with a bunch of different users
[13:33] <raar> trojanking: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:33] <Demolitio> hey guys.... interesting problem here... directly after re-formatting, I am no longer able to connect wirelessly to my router. It decides to disconnect itself after 2 minutes of attempting to connect.
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> ubuman: awk -F: '{print $1}' /etc/passwd
[13:33] <Demolitio> I am able to set up/access the network on other machines, and my Windows partition on this machine can also access it. Any ideas?
[13:33] <trojanking> raar type everything
[13:33] <rww> ubuman: if you run the 'w' command everyone else told you about, you'll see what I mean ;)
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> Tito0096:  tat would be 'update-grub' :)
[13:34] <Tito0096> oh okay thanks :)
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> trojanking: try:  sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> trojanking: sudo apt-get install upgrade   won't work
[13:34] <ubuman> rww I did then commented that I've run terminals in the past and not ended up with them each counted as a user login
[13:34] <jhon> Demolitio: What is the signal strength?
[13:34] <Tito0096> Dr_Willis: its not finding the Windows partition
[13:34] <ubuman> rww though i must say pverall the live CD runs better than an install I've seen both
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> Demolitio: do you mean the files on other machines?
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> Tito0096:  perhaps check the forums. Its always seen mine here.
[13:35] <Xin> How do i grep only part of line??
[13:35] <Demolitio> @jhon: full strength. I'm less than 15 feet away from it right now.
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> Demolitio: or do you share the network on the windows pc
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> Tito0096:  could be somthing odd with how your system is partioned. It normally adds 3 different windows parittions here.
[13:35] <ubuman> Xin ^ has something to do with it
[13:35] <Tito0096> Dr_Willis: as a matter afact windows screwed up grub, so i had to unl=plug the 2ndary drive to boot into ubuntu
[13:35] <trojanking> ActionParsnip, this is the result http://paste.ubuntu.com/549090/
[13:35] <Xin> how?
[13:35] <Xin> ubuman?
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> Tito0096:  you did plug it back in?
[13:35] <Tito0096> Dr_Willis: yup
[13:36] <Demolitio> Actionparsnip: forget files... I just can't connect wirelessly, period.
[13:36] <trojanking> ActionParsnip, so will it work now? i mean software center
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> Tito0096:  with 2 hd's i let windows keep its MBR on its own hd.. and linux on Its own.. i then use the bios menus to pick what os to boot.
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> Demolitio: can you ping your router?
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> Tito0096:  so if grub dosent see windows. i just boot the win hd directly
[13:36] <jhon> Tito0096 --> Go to synaptic and type in kernel into search box
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> trojanking: run: sudo apt-get update    first
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> trojanking: you can also test after that by running:  sudo apt-get --reinstall install nano
[13:37] <jhon> Tito0096: then locate linux-image-2.6.35-22-generic
[13:37] <jhon> Linux kernel image for version 2.6.35 on x86/x86_64 r similar
[13:37] <Tito0096> Dr_Willis: How do I do a "device refresh" on ubuntu?
[13:37] <Demolitio> Jhon: Full Strength.
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> trojanking: if both go smooth then you are in business
[13:37] <trojanking> all went smooth
[13:37] <jhon> and select mark for reinstall
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> Tito0096:  cant say that ive ever had to do that.. never noticeds a way to do that.
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> trojanking: then all is well
[13:37] <trojanking> but still Software Center Dont come up
[13:37] <Xin> anyone help? How do i grep part of line? how do i use cut command
[13:38] <ubuman> trojanking I like to just keep /home on its own partition then no matter w3hat I'm covered
[13:38] <Tito0096> Dr_Willis: because windows boots instead of linux
[13:38] <Tito0096> Dr_Willis: even though its a secoundary drive
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> Xin:   start with 'man cut' ?  for complex things - you may want to use awk or sed. (or both)
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> trojanking: run:   sudo apt-get --reinstall install software-center   then retry it. I dont use software centre myself
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> Tito0096:  tell teh bios to boot the other hd first perhaps?
[13:38] <Xin> thhnx dr.
[13:38] <tzenrick> Video Problem:  Thinkpad r50e, broken LCD, video is cloning to external monitor just fine, can't set resolution due to not seeing 2 separate monitors.  Any ideas
[13:38] <tzenrick> ?
[13:39] <Tito0096> Dr_Willis: doesnt listen haha
[13:39] <trojan_spike> Tito0096, what does ur grub say?
[13:39] <trojanking> ActionParsnip, its installing or downloading now
[13:39] <ubuman> Tito0096 can't you put a boot manager onto your MBR?
[13:39] <lindow>  sudo apt-get
[13:40] <me__> i hav problems regarding connecting my airtel datacard carrying bsnl sim in it in connecting net from it?
[13:40] <jhon> Tito0096: reinstalling the kernel will do an autoscan and will update grub entries accordingly
[13:40] <trojan_spike> Tito0096, are u able to get instal your ubuntu OS?? or are u on a live cd?
[13:40] <trojan_spike> Tito0096, into i mean
[13:40] <Tito0096> I have ubuntu installed
[13:40] <ubuman> jhon I think they may have 2 HDDs and linux has the mbr on one but windows has the mbr on the other
[13:41] <Tito0096> I wanted to game, so i made a spare partition on my 2ndary drive and installed Windows on it
[13:41] <trojanking> ActionParsnip, thanks but i got thisn http://paste.ubuntu.com/549093/
[13:41] <Tito0096> Windows takes priority on boot
[13:41] <trojan_spike> Tito0096, and are u in it now?? in the installed ubuntu?
[13:41] <jhon> well in that case, I d add the windows entry manually to grub.cfg
[13:41] <jhon> but thats just me:)
[13:41] <trojanking> still it didn't come up
[13:41] <trojan_spike> jhon, ::) yes,, thats you
[13:41] <me__> how can i list virus in my ubuntu
[13:41] <Dr_Willis>  better to put it in /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[13:42] <Tito0096> How lol
[13:42] <Tito0096> I cant read the drive right now for some reason
[13:42] <ubuman> trojanking OK you installed linux tghen installed windows right? have you tried to put the ubuntu install media back in and done a repair?
[13:42] <Tito0096> even though i plugged it back in
[13:43] <ubuman> oh that is for Tito0096
[13:43] <k4r4mb4> Hi
[13:43] <trojanking> ubuman, i had windows b4, i just wanted to try ubuntu
[13:43] <ubuman> when is microsoft going to realize that they're not the only OS on the planet?
[13:43] <k4r4mb4> How can I check what shells are available on the system?
[13:44] <trojanking> ubuman, now software center still cant come up
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> k4r4mb4:  chsh command i think is one way to see what  is there
[13:44] <rww> k4r4mb4: cat /etc/shells
[13:44] <juk> trojanking: you on stable?
[13:44] <ubuman> trojanking I'm on a live image in a usb pen right now myself
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> not everything in   /etc/shells    is installed.. those are just allowable user shells
[13:45] <dhruvasagar> Happy New Year to All!!!
[13:45] <Tito0096> Dr_Willis: how would i make ubuntu detect the drive again
[13:45] <ubuman> trojanking ubuntu    3684 20.5  1.3 158684 45996 ?        Sl   13:44   0:03 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/software-center
[13:45] <k4r4mb4> rww thanks
[13:45] <rww> Dr_Willis: ah, good point
[13:45] <rww> k4r4mb4: I was wrong, actually. Listen to Dr_Willis instead ;)
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> Tito0096:  see if sudo fdisk -l   shows it...
[13:46] <trojanking> what
[13:46] <iwantoknow> hi how can I remove duplicate recourse lists?
[13:46] <iwantoknow> sorry source list
[13:46] <trojanking> ubuman, i dont understand
[13:47] <prabhu> how to install backtrack os
[13:47] <Mayank> Hello whenever i am trying to install a package with dpkg - i iam getting an error - subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2
[13:47] <Mayank> Errors were encountered while processing:
[13:47] <Mayank> I am on Ubuntu server 10.10
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> trojanking: you can run: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove   if you want to get rid of those packages which are no longer needed.
[13:47] <Tito0096> Dr_Willis: Nope
[13:47] <Tito0096> Unless i restart
[13:47] <ubuman> trojanking you mentioned the program so I decided to run it here
[13:47] <Tito0096> and that will make Windows load
[13:47] <rww> prabhu: Backtrack isn't supported in this channel. Try #backtrack-linux.
[13:47] <ubuman> this wouldn't be half bad if my windows autoraised
[13:47] <iwantoknow> how can i remove duplicate source.lsit entries?
[13:47] <prabhu> rww:thank you
[13:47] <juk> trojanking: what is your lsb_release
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> iwantoknow: edit the file
[13:48] <k4r4mb4> How can I check what shell I'm using atm
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> Tito0096:  if 'sudo fdisk -l' is not showing the hd with the windowas setup. well you need to reboot/check cables/bios settings
[13:48] <Tito0096> I unplugged it then plugged it back in to make ubuntu boot lol
[13:48] <Tito0096> it hanged a bit
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> iwantoknow:  sources.list is just a text file.. edit it. remove dupes.
[13:48] <Tito0096> then it went and did its thing
[13:49] <ubuman> heh i looked under utilities but Ubuntu gives me the option of hiding 6688 technical items out of a total of 6689
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> Tito0096:  you are refering to a USB hard drive?
[13:49] <Tito0096> Sata
[13:49] <ubuman> gotta lub Ubuntu!
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> Tito0096:  you are hot-plugging in sata hard drives?
[13:49] <Tito0096> lol yeah
[13:49] <Tito0096> i know
[13:49] <iwantoknow> I am sorry, could you tell me the comand to edit it? thanks alot
[13:49] <Tito0096> but it was the only way to get ubuntu to boot
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> Tito0096:  thats one way to blow stuff up i guess...
[13:49]  * Tito0096 gasps
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> iwantoknow:  with any text editopr you like.
[13:50] <ubuman> Tito0096 why can't you boot off a CD or USB stick?
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> iwantoknow:  sudo nano /path/to/file
[13:50] <iwantoknow> thanks i will figure out
[13:50] <Tito0096> On a live cd I cant boot into the live cd ubuntu system
[13:50] <Tito0096> it black screens
[13:51] <ox3a> hello
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> Tito0096:  for nvidia cards i have to use the 'nomodeset' option on the live cd.
[13:51] <ubuman> Dr_Willis ubuntu really ought to work on that gotcha
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> iwantoknow: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:51] <Tito0096> Dr_Willis: thats what i used to get ubuntu to boot out of the black screen
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> ubuman:  its a plymouth/neauvu driver issue from what ive read.
[13:52] <trojanking> ActionParsnip, see result pls http://paste.ubuntu.com/549095/
[13:52] <iwantoknow> thanks alot
[13:52] <trojanking> is there a school to go and learn linux... windows is easy
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> trojanking: linux is easy too
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> trojanking:  you have allready learned windows.. thats what makes it easy.. many things in windows are very HARD for total beginers to learn
[13:53] <trojanking> just to fix a problem i have gotten 1million command that dont solve d problem
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> trojanking:  theres books/guides/docs all over the place for linux.
[13:53] <zsharon> I'm thinking of building xfce4-panel from GIT.  Do I need to uninstall it via apt first?
[13:53] <red2kic> trojanking: You grew up using Windows. ;)
[13:53] <trojanking> try and error wastes my time
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> trojanking: do you have updates running or software centre open?
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> trojanking:  vs windows  where you try 1000 differnt thigns/clicks/menus/reg entries.. that dont fix the problem.
[13:53] <trojanking> i didn't grow with mac
[13:53] <ubuman> Dr_Willis well a lot of docs are awfully out of date these days
[13:53] <trojanking> less than 24hours i cud learn everything with mac
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> Everything is out of date eventually....
[13:53] <trojanking> it never opened
[13:53] <jhon> trojanking: just start getting your system up to date, fixing stuff
[13:54] <trojanking> i head wants to burst
[13:54] <jhon> that will bring you up to speed
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> ubuman: many are wikis, so you can update them yourself
[13:54] <trojanking> i feel like formatting d drive and stick to windows and mac
[13:54] <ubuman> Dr_Willis like I've udev issues and what I've seen out there on the topic is a mess
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> trojanking:  but you would gladly spend 20+ hrs learning how to use a new cellphone...
[13:54] <me__> how can i install kubuntu and i hav installed ubuntu??????? any method from terminal is prefferd
[13:54] <Tito0096> Dr_Willis: where could I access the settings on a live cd?
[13:54] <trojanking> cellphone takes me 1hr to look
[13:54] <jhon> me__ : sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> me__: or sudo apt-get install kde-core
[13:55] <trojanking> i want to install skype yahoo messenger all that
[13:55] <ubuman> ActionParsnip I'm noit a kernel coder and I've never seen the stuff work
[13:55] <stealthc> sudoku apt-get install
[13:55] <raar> trojanking: apt-get install skype; apt-get install pidgin
[13:55] <ubuman> ActionParsnip which is why I'm in an ubuntu live CD right now in fact so I can compare and contrast
[13:55] <trojanking> i need to go to go to command line and type apt-get and all that
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> ubuman: well if you do, update the wiki for others to use ;)
[13:55] <me__> jhon: how much tym will it take to install
[13:55] <me__> ActionParsnip: how much tym will it take
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> ubuman: whats your issue with udev?
[13:55] <ubuman> ActionParsnip nah I'll go off and play Quake
[13:55] <trojanking> skype didn't work
[13:55] <red2kic> trojanking: Can you fix a car?
[13:56] <trojanking> no
[13:56] <red2kic> trojanking: But do you want to?
[13:56] <ubuman> ActionParsnip in squeeze its not making my symblinks in /dev
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> me__: depends how fast your connection is and the speed / type of your storage
[13:56] <jhon> me__: depends on your internet connection, if you have fast broadband 600 megs will be downloaded fast
[13:56] <trojanking> no
[13:56] <ubuman> ActionParsnip though they're all here in 10.10 live and i want to find out why
[13:56] <trojanking> i dont want to fix a car
[13:56] <red2kic> trojanking: Okay, then stick with Windows + Mac.
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> ubuman: squeeze is offtopic here
[13:56] <ubuman> ActionParsnip not for me it ain't
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> ubuman: ask in #debian to see why
[13:56] <ubuman> ActionParsnip they've no idea
[13:56] <raar> red2kic: I think the old rule 'if your vcr blinks on
[13:57] <trojanking> u may not belive me red2kic
[13:57] <raar> red2kic: I think the old rule 'if your vcr blinks on "00:00", you shouldn't use linex' applies :)
[13:57] <raar> linux*
[13:57] <red2kic> raar: I rip it out. VCR is outdated technology. :)
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> ubuman: then if you need that functionality then debian seems to not be the tool for the job
[13:57] <trojanking> when i wanted to use windows i learn it my self d first time in my life
[13:57] <ubuman> ActionParsnip oh you think ubuntu is not without its issues?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> red2kic: still works though
[13:57] <dj100500> êó âñåì
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> ubuman: i never said that did I
[13:57] <Dr_Willis> Interesting artical - 'too hard is no excuse' ---> http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/locutus/its-too-hard-is-no-excuse-43304
[13:57] <ubuman> ActionParsnip believe me I'd rather fix this than everything I'd have to fix in ubuntu
[13:57] <trojanking> i was snicking into an office to on pc and the first day i turned on a desktop i used paid to draw a lad
[13:57] <rww> ubuman: Debian is offtopic for this channel, regardless of whether you happen to be using it.
[13:57] <jhon> trojanking: if your completely new to Linux first 2-3 months will be a pain, you ll bash your head in the wall a couple times, but if you keep using it you ll get better at it
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> ubuman: dont put words in my mouth
[13:58] <trojanking> that is
[13:58] <red2kic> ActionParsnip: Ya. Where can I get latest Harry Potter movie on VCR tape? :(
[13:58] <ubuman> rww right now I'm in ubuntu 10.10 live
[13:58] <trojanking> jhon, u just said the answer
[13:58] <rww> ubuman: Congratulations. Quit bringing up Debian.
[13:58] <dj100500> q
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> ubuman: if you need a particular functionality and the distro you have doesnt do it then it may be time to change
[13:58] <trojanking> 2-3months
[13:58] <dj100500> unban me pleas on #ubuntu-ru
[13:58] <ubuman> rww well I'm in 10.10 live to find out some info to configure something in my regular distro I normally run
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> red2kic: if you have tapes and a tape player, you can watch the tapes. Just because its old doesn't mean it stops working suddenly
[13:59] <rww> dj100500: ask in #ubuntu-irc for LoCo channel issues
[13:59] <aaaaaddas> hey, how could i add route from 192.168.0.* to router?
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> ubuman: you can chroot from Ubuntu liveCD to installed OSes to fix them
[13:59] <ubuman> ActionParsnip well ubuntu won't play sound in quake at all
[13:59] <trojanking> jhon, 1month will be a stress to learn something, bcos i want to learn with all my time but this will keep table away from my food, because i use windows to make money
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> given how old Quake I is.. im suprised it works at all..
[14:00] <ubuman> ActionParsnip has something to do with pulse audiop and not making /dev/dsp
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> ubuman: the first quake? How are you running it? how did you install it>
[14:00] <jhon> trojanking: took me 2-3 months while doing IBO
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> There are redone/udated versions of the quake engine i recall.
[14:00] <ubuman> ActionParsnip how does it matter?
[14:00] <ubuman> ActionParsnip same way i install it in any other distro
[14:00] <k4r4mb4> how to find out what shell I'm using atm?
[14:00] <trojan_spike> ActionParsnip, wine runs it
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> k4r4mb4:  echo $SHELL  i think
[14:00] <trojanking> jhon, u see
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> k4r4mb4:  most likely you are using Bash
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> ubuman: if you compiled it then its a world different to if youused someone precompiled package etc, why not just answer the question???
[14:00] <jhon> trojanking: if you have the whole day to yourself, forum reading, wikireading, etc, 2 week s enough
[14:01] <scotty^> happy new year everyone
[14:01] <ubuman> ActionParsnip it works in that other unmentionable distro BTW
[14:01] <k4r4mb4> there are no bash conf files in home dir
[14:01] <k4r4mb4> I doubt I'm using bash
[14:01] <trojan_spike> ty scotty^ u too
[14:01] <raar> red2kic: ok ok, perhaps the rule is a bit old... haven't really heard it mentioned since slackware 8
[14:01] <Dr_Willis> k4r4mb4:   if you are using Ubuntu. you are using bash...
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> ubuman: the method of install in Ubuntu will most likely be hugely different from the method in gentoo
[14:01] <ubuman> ActionParsnip I install it a half a dozen different ways there is more than one engine for the game now you know?
[14:01] <raar> red2kic: still I think it's a good indicator :)
[14:01] <Dr_Willis> $ echo $SHELL
[14:01] <Dr_Willis> /bin/bash
[14:01] <ubuman> ActionParsnip nah old quake you're building it to run today
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> ubuman: so, how was it installed?
[14:02] <k4r4mb4> Thank Dr_Willis
[14:02] <ubuman> ActionParsnip the more intelligent question to ask would be what engine do you use
[14:02] <k4r4mb4> I'm using sh
[14:02] <k4r4mb4> Does anyone know how to enable autocomplete in this sh shell?
[14:02] <ubuman> ActionParsnip because original quake ain't running on no modern distro today no way hno how
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> ubuman: I give up, youo failed to answer basic questions so I wont waste anymore time
[14:03] <ubuman> ActionParsnip I already did you just failed to comprehend it
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> !away > CripperZ-away
[14:03] <k4r4mb4> chsh gives one only sh shell as a option.I assume only sh shell is installed
[14:03] <_dj100500> на русском ктонить говорит?
[14:03] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[14:04] <rww> !ru | _dj100500
[14:04] <_dj100500> ??
[14:04] <parolang> Does anyone know how to bring the internet back up from the commandline?  The start/restart commands don't seem to work for me.
[14:04] <andrewax> fala em ingles criatura!
[14:04] <_dj100500> мя там почемут забанили(((((((
[14:05] <BluesKaj> parolang,rtherenet or wifi ?
[14:05] <andrewax> Говорите английском языке!
[14:05] <BluesKaj> ethernet
[14:05] <parolang> wifi
[14:05] <rww> _dj100500: change your client's ident/GECOS string. "root" is banned from that channel.
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> k4r4mb4:  you run the /etc/bash_completion  script
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> k4r4mb4:  its ran as prt of the normal bash init scripts
[14:05] <_dj100500> my eng so shity
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> parolang: sudo service networking stop; sudo service networking start; sudo dhclient3 eth0    is one example
[14:05] <parolang> andrewax: Is that RUssian?
[14:05] <yeik> morning everybody
[14:05] <iwantoknow> is there video configuration file where i can set video modes?
[14:05] <k4r4mb4> How to run that script?
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> k4r4mb4:  'sh' is normally the system shell.. user shell is normally bash
[14:05] <ubuman> _dj100500 it not so bad
[14:06] <k4r4mb4> I tried chsh -s bash gives me not such shell
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> k4r4mb4:  bash completion wont work in sh. only bash..    try '. /etc/bash_completion'
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> iwantoknow: you can use xrandr or /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> k4r4mb4:  what os did you install ?
[14:06] <andrewax> seems. At least I was able to translate on google translator
[14:06] <k4r4mb4> ubuntu
[14:06] <_dj100500> how to install ubunu whis out cd or dvd i sit from live usb and i want save fucking windows
[14:06] <parolang> ActionParsnip: See...like I type status networking and it tells me: networking stop/waiting.  It tells me this when internet is up and running, and when it isn't.
[14:06] <gstiger> hey gibt es sowas wie hier auch auf deutsch
[14:06] <IdleOne> !language | _dj100500
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> k4r4mb4:  then you goofed up spmting badly.. bash is incluided by default
[14:06] <scotty^> @iwantoknow - the is xorg.conf, but it's usually not needed these days.
[14:06] <ubuman> _dj100500 I use usb drive
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> k4r4mb4:  sudo apt-get install bash    perhaps.
[14:07] <k4r4mb4> what was the command to check the os verions in shell
[14:07] <ubuman> _dj100500 http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[14:07] <k4r4mb4> I can not use root
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> parolang: mine says stop/waiting too, on this system I am typing to you on
[14:07] <IdleOne> k4r4mb4: lsb_release -a
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> k4r4mb4: lsb_release -a; uname -a
[14:07] <gstiger> hallo
[14:07] <parolang> ActionParsnip: And when I hit start networking when internet isn't running, all it tells me, again, is networking stop/waiting.
[14:07] <_dj100500> can i install ubuntu whis out dvd or cd
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> k4r4mb4:  so you are on a desktop machine, running ubuntu 10.10? or som,e otjher weird way?
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> !install | _dj100500
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> _dj100500: you can use usb
[14:08] <parolang> ActionParsnip: So I've been having to reboot to get internet working again.
[14:08] <BluesKaj> parolang, sudo dhclient
[14:08] <andrewax> guys, how is now that issue on processor overheating from ubuntu 10.10 kernel?
[14:08] <ubuman> parolang pump usually fixes that for me
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> parolang: try rmmodding the interface driver, then reload it back in then restart networking
[14:08] <k4r4mb4> maybe it is a gnu-linux, not ubuntu
[14:08] <k4r4mb4> but it says ubuntu as well
[14:09] <IdleOne> !usb | _dj100500
[14:09] <_dj100500> apps compielid for mono can run or .net?
[14:09] <k4r4mb4> Description:    Ubuntu 10.10 release maverick
[14:09] <k4r4mb4> it is a ubuntu
[14:09] <andrewax> @k4r4mb4 cat /etc/issue
[14:10] <ubuman> k4r4mb4 same ubuntu I am running
[14:10] <Demolitio> ok, I've managed to connect to my wireless network now by changing the broadcast channel from auto to chan 6..... now I have a new problem.
[14:10] <Demolitio> I can't appear to connect to the router when the AC cord on the laptop is unplugged? what the!?!?
[14:10] <k4r4mb4> Ubuntu 10.10 \n \l
[14:10] <parolang> ubuman: Pump is a command?
[14:10] <BluesKaj> parolang, or sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[14:10] <_dj100500> on usb bt :(
[14:10] <ubuman> parolang it causes dhcp to get an IP
[14:11] <parolang> BluesKaj: That's what I used to use on Debian, but it tells me to use the upstart/service commands :/
[14:11] <ubuman> parolang but I have had a lot of issues with avahi and networkmanager
[14:11] <andrewax> service servicename start ?
[14:11] <andrewax> /etc/init.d/service start ?
[14:11] <BluesKaj> parolang, yeah, but it still works
[14:11] <ubuman> if both of those apps disapeared tomorrow I wouldn't cry!
[14:12] <parolang> BluesKaj: Okay, I'll also check out dhclient to see whether that will help me.  I haven't heard of that command before.
[14:12] <oneliner> so fixing the flash/youtube bugginess in FF boils down to installing opera :/
[14:12] <BluesKaj> parolang, try sudo dhclient wlan0
[14:13] <ubuman> oneliner for me it was getting rid of ghash and installing the bin plugin
[14:13] <ubuman> gnash
[14:13] <parolang> BluesKaj: Okay, thanks.
[14:13] <Tito0096> Dr_Willis: I am on the live cd currently lol, i got it to boot, how would i update grub again? update-grub doesnt work
[14:13] <BluesKaj> parolang, assuming your wifi is  set to wlan0
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> Tito0096:  you chroot into the installed system and run that.. or you use a command given in the various !fixgrub wiki docs.
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub
[14:14] <parolang> BluesKaj: I think it is.
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> Tito0096:  similer to ------> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/InstalledSystemMointPoint  /dev/sda --recheck
[14:14] <ubuman> I miss how slackware told you how to chroot right in the login message
[14:15] <ubuman> was handy!
[14:15] <BluesKaj> parolang, , also ActionParsnip has good advice ...he's actually the expert on networking
[14:15] <tas> why I can't make permission changes to files in my ntfs partition? how to do that?
[14:15] <Dr_Willis> I keep all these commands and faq's in my Tomboy Notes - in case anyione wonders. :)
[14:16] <Dr_Willis> tas:  becase they MUST be set when the fs is mounted..
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: not hugely expert but not bad at it :)
[14:16] <Dr_Willis> tas:  you cant change them on a per file/dir basis after the ntfs is mounted.
[14:16] <tas> Dr_Willis, so how do I execute it without messsing with fs?
[14:16] <zjy> 0.0
[14:16] <BluesKaj> well we need your advice more often than not , ActionParsnip
[14:17] <BluesKaj> :)
[14:17] <Dr_Willis> tas:  excecute what?
[14:17] <tas> Dr_Willis, .exe file via wine
[14:17] <Dr_Willis> tas:  wine /path/to/whatever.exe
[14:17] <Dr_Willis> tas:  is the easy way
[14:17] <tas> Dr_Willis, you mean I paste the file there?
[14:17] <parolang> BluesKaj, ActionParsnip: Yeah...I'm saving a bunch of your comments to a file for when I need it.  I'll have to google rmmodding the interface driver.
[14:18] <Dr_Willis> tas:  you can run any executable in wine via just telling 'wine /the/path/to/the.exe' and it will get ran.
[14:18] <Dr_Willis> tas:  theres no need to double click on them
[14:19] <ubuman> Dr_Willis I used wine once it wasn't that simple
[14:19] <tas> Dr_Willis, oh
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> tas:  a cd/dvd would be /media/SOMTHING/setup.exe or similer
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> ubuman:  it  is that simple to get a exe going...
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> now IF the wine app works.. thats another story.
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> parolang: if you run:  sudo lshw -C network    and read, you will see the driver name, you can then run:  sudo modprobe -r module; sudo modprobe module
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> the whole 'double click on a .exe it runs in wine' is a relatively 'new' feature.
[14:19] <your_favorite_ni> ?
[14:20] <your_favorite_ni> this is pissing me off
[14:20] <ubuman>  Dr_Willis no it really wasn't I had to use oh what was it called this script that installed a ton of other dlls were they?
[14:20] <Demolitio> anyone here have wireless connection problems with WPA?
[14:20] <ubuman> Dr_Willis masybe if you have windows installed it is that easy but if you don't it isn't
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> your_favorite_ni: keep it family friendly in here please
[14:21] <stealthc> personally I just use wep
[14:21] <stealthc> no need for wpa
[14:21] <peytoniumnitrate> how can u download flashplayer for ubuntu 10.4?
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> ubuman:  the fact you needed to use 'winetricks' dosent  really matter. :)
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> stealthc: same,but with extra stuff to bolster it :)
[14:21] <jimcooncat> !flash
[14:21] <stealthc> if I had the equipment for hacking wep then I have the equipment to make a fake login for your router and do a capture of your password
[14:21] <jhon> Demolitio: Some wireless cards have problems with using WPA because of their drivers, either use WEP, to solve that or try googling a driver which you need to compile and modprobe, or get ndiswrapper and use windows drivers for your wireless but you loose packet injection capability
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> peytoniumnitrate: sudo apt-get install flashpluin-nonfree
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> ubuman:  and you DONT need windows installed to run  stuff in wine.  in fact that can make things run worse in wine if you run them from a existing windows install.
[14:22] <ubuman> Dr_Willis it was only once and a long time ago and I hope i never need to again
[14:22] <_dj100500> no problems(wpa2)
[14:22] <rww> stealthc: equipment... like a regular computer with aircrack-ng?
[14:22] <parolang> ActionParsnip: Okay.  So that restarts the networking driver?
[14:22] <Guest39628> does anyone know how to config an sftp server. I've been searching for about 4 day's now on how to setup a gui ftp with virtual users
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> Guest39628:  sftp = ssh i thought..
[14:22] <ubuman> Dr_Willis thats good because i haven't had windowds installed in about 17 years now
[14:22] <jhon> so did i Dr_Willis
[14:22] <stealthc> you setup a webserver with a laptop and spoof the router
[14:22]  * parolang high fives ubuman.
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> parolang: it will make the device stop workin, then wake up again. obviously change module for the actual module name
[14:22] <stealthc> so the user thinks they are connected to the router when they are not
[14:23] <stealthc> then you get password and can reflash the bios, works great for dlink routers
[14:23] <Guest39628> I've been looking at gadmin but can't seem to connect locally of via internet
[14:23] <parolang> ActionParsnip: Okay.  Thanks.
[14:23] <Maddog420> is there a way to auto mount my slave drive when linux starts up
[14:23] <stealthc> lol... wep is easy enough but what I just described is almost as easy
[14:23] <jimcooncat> I'm running 10.10, and cannot see flash videos on youtube. I used flashplugin-installer to get flash when I set this up. What to do?
[14:23] <stealthc> just use a ubiquity card running back trax
[14:23] <ubuman> jimcooncat restart your browser?
[14:23] <DAMN3dg1rl> hola, have a new nice new year ... heya
[14:24] <Demolitio> Jhon: WPA is easier to make a key for :P, especially with guest computers, unfortunately.
[14:24] <Demolitio> The problem i'm having now- is that apparently, the wireless manager cannot connect when I'm unplugged from AC power. I don't know why... it just does.
[14:24] <jimcooncat> ubuman, did that, but I've done nothing lately to the setup anyway
[14:24] <peytoniumnitrate> it says my flash is up to date but youtube still says i need to upgrade
[14:24] <jhon> Demolitio: sounds like an ACPI function inhibiting the wireless module
[14:24] <jimcooncat> peytoniumnitrate, exactly
[14:25] <Dr_Willis> peytoniumnitrate:  you can use html5 for youtube for most videos. and not need flash
[14:25] <jimcooncat> doing the apt download from adobe site doesn't work
[14:25] <stealthc> what jhon said, check your power savings settings
[14:25] <Dr_Willis>  http://youtube.com/html5
[14:25] <peytoniumnitrate> idk how tht works
[14:25] <stealthc> although I don't understand why it would do that in ubuntu
[14:25] <peytoniumnitrate> ok
[14:25] <_dj100500> unbun me in #ubuntu-ru;)
[14:25] <tas> Dr_Willis, what will be the link to setup.exe if it was on desktop?
[14:25] <stealthc> I've never had that problem.... unless it's been a windows box
[14:25] <Dr_Willis> Guest39628:  i dont reccomend using a ftp server.. use ssh/scp
[14:25] <shn^> Any idea why ubuntu server keeps returning to dhcp and ip x.x.0.192 instead of the one i specify in interfaces (static)?
[14:25] <Demolitio> jhon: where can I verify? Sorry, still new to Ubuntu.
[14:25] <tas> Dr_Willis, Address I mean
[14:26] <jimcooncat> Dr_Willis, is there a way to set html youtube as a default, so links to the videos work?
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> shn^: hiding a class C address doesnt achieve anything
[14:26] <stealthc> system--
[14:26] <stealthc> preferences
[14:26] <stealthc> power savings
[14:26] <shn^> ActionParsnip: Doesnt matter, quicker typing
[14:26] <stealthc> err power management... check there
[14:26] <DAMN3dg1rl> FloodBot2, have a nice new year :D
[14:26] <_dj100500> evry kid can crack web
[14:26] <_dj100500> web sucks
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> tas:  if its on your  desktop its /home/username/Desktop/whatever.exe  or you can right click onthe exe. and make it executable. then double clicking onit will work
[14:27] <PostEpochalyptic> how do i cracked web
[14:27] <_dj100500> (web for wi-fi)
[14:27] <_dj100500> ;D
[14:27] <schwizz> lol
[14:27] <oneliner> wep?
[14:27] <schwizz> =]
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> jimcooncat:  http://youtube.com/html5
[14:27] <stealthc> wep
[14:27] <parolang> peytoniumnitrate: Have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash ?
[14:27] <ubuman> why can't nausieus have a open terminal option?
[14:27] <tas> Dr_Willis, thanks I got it! :D
[14:27] <peytoniumnitrate> i joined the html5 trial so if i click on a vid it will play in html5 now?? cause it still isnt working
[14:27] <peytoniumnitrate> no i havent seen it
[14:27] <ubuman> it wouldn't be a bad file manager if it did
[14:27] <schwizz> and i really doubt most people could site down and crack WEP without a tool
[14:27] <stealthc> and not anybody can crack it you need a network card that can do packet injection
[14:27] <oneliner> peytoniumnitrate: just get opera
[14:28] <Demolitio> PostEpochalyptic: hit it with a hammer?
[14:28] <peytoniumnitrate> what is opera?
[14:28] <Demolitio> :-)
[14:28] <stealthc> most computers and newer cards do not support packet injection.
[14:28] <stanley_> jimcooncat: try installing the Medibuntu package, do a search on google and follow the instructions on their webpage.
[14:28] <oneliner> a browser that works just fine with flash on ubuntu
[14:28] <cupis> Peterman, a web browser, like firefox or chrome
[14:28] <cupis> peytoniumnitrate, as web browser
[14:28] <aaaaaddas> I could someone help me with route
[14:28] <Dr_Willis> ubuman:  thers addons that let you do stuff like that
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> stealthc: if you add MAC filters and turn down broadcast power as well as turn off dhcp, it helps wep a lot
[14:29] <jimcooncat> stanley_, that's still around?
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> !opera | peytoniumnitrate
[14:29] <stealthc> yeah I always do a mac filter
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> ubuman:  i recall that nautilus-elementry had a built in terminal window also.
[14:29] <stealthc> explicit allow only for my mac address, which I almost never use
[14:29] <marrerotkd> hey guys, I need to set the ANT_HOME envairoment variable, someone can tell me where is the install directory of ant?
[14:29] <aaaaaddas> Could someone help me with route?
[14:29] <ubuman> Dr_Willis thanks i use xfs
[14:29] <stealthc> usually I just use other people's routers, lol
[14:29] <_dj100500> and if kid crack your web he can sniff your traff
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> aaaaaddas: ask and see
[14:30] <stealthc> lol that depends dj
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> marrerotkd: try:   which ant
[14:30] <Gika> is there a way to show packages with residual config files w/ aptitude or on cli anyway?
[14:30] <Gika> like synaptic does
[14:30] <Demolitio> stealthc: don't see any power options for wireless NICs in here... power settings ate at default (sleep after :30, display turnoff in :10.
[14:30] <marrerotkd> ActionParsnip: thanks
[14:30] <aaaaaddas> ActionParsnip: ok, id like to add route to route packets from 192.168.0.137 to 192.168.0.254
[14:30] <Demolitio> *are
[14:30] <stealthc> yeah I didn't think there would be
[14:30] <trojanking> please anyone here can connect to to my pc with teamviewer or so to fic
[14:30] <stealthc> I remember there's a radio rx power setting
[14:31] <rww> Gika: aptitude search ~c
[14:31] <trojanking> please anyone here can connect to to my pc with teamviewer or so to fix problems for me
[14:31] <stealthc> but usually that isn't throttled back in ubuntu's madwifi drivers
[14:31] <marrerotkd> ActionParsnip: I must put ANT_HOME="/usr/bin/"  ??
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> trojanking:  fix what problem?
[14:31] <Gika> thanks, rww
[14:31] <bonjoyee> any way to split a huge mpeg file..which is actually a collection of several others recovered from a handycam?
[14:31] <Demolitio> stealthc: not apparently in this area.
[14:31] <marrerotkd> ActionParsnip: or "/usr/bin/ant"  ??
[14:31] <stanley_> jimcooncat: yes, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[14:31] <stealthc> in fact
[14:32] <stealthc> try looking for a channel called madwifi
[14:32] <stealthc> they might have an answer for you there..
[14:32] <jimcooncat> stanley_, thanks, but I got html5 working in epiphany. I'm all set
[14:32] <face_palm> Hello! I'm trying to view irc log files in ubuntu.  Can anyone recommend a log viewer? Thanks a bunch :)
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> jimcooncat:  dident even knoe ephphany could do that yet. :)
[14:32] <ubuman> hmm this is annoying
[14:32] <Nepherius> hey , I'm trying to install something but i get something like folder is owned buy uid 1000 instead of 0
[14:32] <Nepherius> how do i fix that ?
[14:32] <stealthc> any idea what kind of wifi card you have?
[14:33] <aaaaaddas> ActionParsnip: ok, id like to add route to route packets from 192.168.0.137 to 192.168.0.254
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> face_palm:  log files are just text files.. use a text editor, or more or less command...
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> Nepherius:  give detailas as to what/how you are installing.
[14:33] <Nepherius> gnomenu
[14:33] <ubuman> oh well must be why i use seamonkey ff is trash
[14:33] <Demolitio> stealthc: have to check somewhere. It's a dell laptop, using a Broadcomm chipset.
[14:34] <jimcooncat> Dr_Willis, have to enable a plugin. It's working good
[14:34] <face_palm> Dr_Willis: The thing is that there are tags in there like "<span class="irc-date">[11:00]</span> <span class="irc-brown">"
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> face_palm:  try geany perhaps.
[14:34] <peytoniumnitrate> i go to click on download for opera and it says this package is virtual... and it wont download
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> face_palm:  sounds like html code to me.
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> face_palm:  so use abrowser
[14:34] <face_palm> Dr_Willis: Ok, Thanks a bunch!
[14:35] <rs0832> peytoniumnitrate, you can get opera using the repositories through synaptic
[14:35] <peytoniumnitrate> idk what that means im new to linux
[14:35] <aaaaaddas> please, someone, tell me how to add route 192.168.0.137 -> 192.168.0.254
[14:36] <Dr_Willis> peytoniumnitrate:  fire up the softweare center.. and look for opera in there.
[14:36] <Lecarsi> how to change hostname DNS with CLI and gedit
[14:36] <Dr_Willis> !hostname | Lecarsi
[14:36] <schwizz> aaaaaddas: change teh ARP tables
[14:36] <_dj100500> how difference betwin ls and dir
[14:36] <peytoniumnitrate> i found synaptic package manager
[14:36] <stealthc> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/651008
[14:36] <_dj100500> irc lag
[14:37] <aaaaaddas> schwizz: how to do that
[14:37] <_dj100500> =20sec
[14:37] <Lecarsi> how to change DNS with CLI and gedit? I'm blocked from some sites with my ISP DNS.
[14:37] <_dj100500> pzc
[14:37] <rs0832> peytoniumnitrate, what Dr_Willis said... but you need to add the repositories(download locations) to your software sources(from where your software is downloaded by the package manager)
[14:37] <yeats> _dj100500: ls is the UNIX/Linux equivalent to dir in DOS
[14:37] <trojanking> please anyone here can connect to to my pc with teamviewer or so to fix problems for me
[14:37] <Demolitio> stealthc: ah crap.
[14:37] <rs0832> peytoniumnitrate, you can see the instructions at http://deb.opera.com
[14:37] <Nepherius> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-robert" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[14:37] <Nepherius> so how do i fix it ?:)
[14:37] <trojanking> software center problem
[14:38] <schwizz> aaaaaaaddas: well if you are just having some fun, search Man in the middle attacks, you can do it that way, but i dont know how to do it the legit way if there is one
[14:38] <trojanking> Dr_Willis Software Center dont come up i need help who can help me by connect to me PC via teamvier
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> Nepherius:  you could log out and delete it.. and let it get remade
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> trojanking:  does installing stuff via apt-get work?
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> Nepherius: sudo chown root /var/tmp/kdecache-robert
[14:39] <aaaaaddas> schwizz: how to do that?
[14:39] <Lecarsi> how to change DNS with CLI and gedit? I'm blocked from some sites with my ISP DNS.
[14:39] <Lecarsi> how to change DNS with CLI and gedit? I'm blocked from some sites with my ISP DNS.
[14:39] <schwizz> aaaaaadda: google will surely have the answer
[14:39] <raar> gedit /etc/resolv.conf ?
[14:40] <BluesKaj> aaaaaddas, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> Lecarsi: gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[14:40] <peytoniumnitrate> where is software center?
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> Dns doing the blocking.. that would seem weird
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> raar: the file is owned by root so will need gksudo
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> peytoniumnitrate:  its right ther ein the menus...
[14:40] <peytoniumnitrate> found it!
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> peytoniumnitrate:  or you can download the .deb from -> http://www.opera.com/download/
[14:41] <peytoniumnitrate> now i look for opera??
[14:41] <parolang> Ubuntu should install emacs by default (Apple does)
[14:41] <raar> ActionParsnip: you are quite right :)
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> parolang:  apple also dosent have to fit on a 700mb installer cd....
[14:42] <parolang> Dr_Willis: They don't have installation CDs?
[14:42] <Bennage> Can anyone help with a messed up drive after a failed attempt at zeroing it?
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> parolang: it installs vi and nano instead. You can remaster the install ISO if you want and make it install by default
[14:42] <Lecarsi> Is Ubuntu 11.04 Available in Alpha 1 yet?
[14:43] <peytoniumnitrate> i cannot find opera in software manager
[14:43] <rs0832> peytoniumnitrate, http://pkgs.org/ubuntu-10.04/opera-beta-i386/opera_11.00.1156_i386.deb.html
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> Lecarsi: yes it's alpha 1, discussion and support is in #ubuntu+1
[14:43] <Guest6190> how long do i have to wait until i can register the nick i want...i missed the 30 second window again
[14:43] <BluesKaj> Dr_Willis, opendns didn't track my IP because Im outside the US. so email failed to comr thru after the IP changed ...opendns is flaky for us.
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> Guest6190: i'd as in #freenode
[14:44] <parolang> ActionParsnip: Hmm...vi is bare knuckles, and I can't believe people like gedit
[14:44] <Guest6190> yes
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> parolang: i use nano pesonally, works fine
[14:44] <bonjoyee> any way to split a huge mpeg file..which is actually a collection of several others recovered from a handycam?
[14:44] <cyberlow> halo
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> bonjoyee: try avidemux or kino
[14:44] <cyberlow> Assalamu'alaikum
[14:44] <rs0832> peytoniumnitrate, download from opera.com/download or http://deb.opera.com/opera/pool/non-free/o/opera/opera_11.00.1156_i386.deb
[14:45] <tas> how to mount an .iso file in ubuntu?
[14:45] <cyberlow> i'am make backtrack 4 RC2
[14:45] <rww> !iso | tas
[14:45] <parolang> ActionParsnip: Nano is (obviously) bare knuckles too.  I think it was supposed to be a Pico clone.
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> tas: sudo mkdir /media/iso; sudo mount -o loop /path/to/filename.iso /media/iso
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> parolang: no idea, i just know it does text editting easy enough
[14:46] <jhon> bonjoyee: there are some programs out there that allow splitting 1 file into smaller ones
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> cyberlow: backtrack isnt supported here
[14:46] <cyberlow> how to install ubuntu server
[14:46] <parolang> ActionParsnip: I guess it depends on what sort of text editing you do; and whether a more powerful editor would make thing easier/better for you.
[14:47] <cyberlow> but its supported full here
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> cyberlow: download and MD5 test the Ubuntu Server ISO, burn it slowly (or transfer to uSB) then boot. The server doesn't come with desktop so install the desktop OS if you want an X server (GUI desktop)
[14:47] <rs0832> bonjoyee, i have heard of mpgsplit.. you can check it out
[14:47] <peytoniumnitrate> i need an application to open the opera package and gDebi isnt working
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> parolang: exactly, tool for the job ;)
[14:47] <rs0832> peytoniumnitrate, use dpkg
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> peytoniumnitrate: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[14:47] <bonjoyee> ActionParsnip: jhon: this is a 27gb mpeg file...recovered from handycam using photorec...which is actually a collection of numerous small clips...but photorec recovered all the data as a single file!
[14:48] <cyberlow> how yo install tar.gz file type
[14:48] <Nepherius> thanks that worked
[14:48] <parolang> ActionParsnip: Yeah, except all the tools are written in elisp :D
[14:48] <parolang> cyberlow: Install what?
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> parolang: as long as it works ok it can be written in pascal for all I care
[14:48] <cyberlow> .tar.gz
[14:48] <rs0832> peytoniumnitrate, use 'cd' in a terminal to browse to the location of the file and then use the command sudo dpkg -i opera_11.00.1156_i386.deb
[14:48] <bonjoyee> ActionParsnip: jhon: rs0832: anyway i can recover/split these individual clips?
[14:48] <_dj100500> lags
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> cyberlow: backtrack isnt supported here
[14:49] <jhon> cyberlow: tar.gz is a compressed file
[14:49] <parolang> cyberlow: tar.gz is an archive file...type tar zxvf blah.tar.gz to unpack.
[14:49] <jhon> like zip or rar in windows
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> bonjoyee: all i can recommend is avidemux and such, i dont do any video editting at all
[14:49] <cyberlow> no, i do it as my pc more
[14:49] <rs0832> bonjoyee, http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&q=mpgsplit&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
[14:49] <cyberlow> and try ubuntu 10.10
[14:49] <cyberlow> what's new at ubuntu 10.10?
[14:50] <parolang> cyberlow: New font :)
[14:50] <cyberlow> :)) nice
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> cyberlow: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/ubuntu-1010-maverick-meerkat-has-been.html
[14:50] <rs0832> bonjoyee, sorry , here - http://www.go2linux.org/trim-cut-join-split-mp3-files-with-linux
[14:50] <stealthc> bonjoyee -- run windows in vbox and use tmpegenc
[14:50] <_dj100500> who registed on antichat?
[14:50] <jhon> bonjoyee: avidemux is your choice
[14:50] <parolang> cyberlow: I'm still on 10.04 though...I try to keep things stable, and upgrade when I find I need to.
[14:50] <tas> How to tell terminal an address which has comma or space in it?
[14:50] <bonjoyee> ActionParsnip: jhon: rs0832:when i play this file using mplayer...the counter correctly resets at the end of each individual clip..any way i can dump this to  individual clips?
[14:51] <BluesKaj> Dr_Willis, or anyone else know;edgeable about alsamixer ...how to save the settings , seems impossible
[14:51] <cyberlow> parolang : nice coice
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> bonjoyee: http://linuxpoison.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-cutsplit-video-using-avidemux.html
[14:51] <jhon> bonjoyee: what format it is in?
[14:52] <rs0832> bonjoyee, what did you use to recover the data?
[14:52] <bonjoyee> rs0832: photorec
[14:53] <bonjoyee> jhon: its a mpg (dvd high quality)
[14:53] <jhon> bonjoyee: Is it raw mpeg2?
[14:53] <cyberlow> Are substitute powerful dreamweaver in ubuntu?
[14:53] <bonjoyee> jhon: how can i find that out?
[14:53] <jhon> how long is it?
[14:54] <cyberlow> Are substitute powerful dreamweaver in ubuntu?
[14:54] <cyberlow> are nothing?
[14:54] <bonjoyee> jhon: on the handycam, these were individual clips in mpeg2 format.
[14:54] <jhon> ok ...
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> cyberlow: bluefish maybe
[14:54] <jhon> so why not just copy those mpeg2 down
[14:54] <jhon> from the camp
[14:54] <bonjoyee> jhon: but photorec recovered all these clips as 27gb file!
[14:55] <jhon> cam
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> cyberlow: or kompozer
[14:55] <parolang> cyberlow: Yeah...I've heard of bluefish, but I don't know how WYSIWYG it is.
[14:55] <cyberlow> bluefish not an UI, but there is script only
[14:55] <bonjoyee> jhon: the handycam was formated accidentally!
[14:55] <jhon> gr8
[14:55] <cyberlow> yeah, without WYSIWYG
[14:56] <jhon> well all i can suggest is
[14:56] <jhon> open it with avidemux
[14:56] <jhon> and cut it into smaller pieces
[14:56] <cyberlow> kompozer is only HTML?
[14:56] <root__> hey, iv installed backtrack 4
[14:56] <root__> now im a real h4xor
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> cyberlow: try websearching some, there are tonnes of guides with people suggesting open equivelants, you can also search software centre
[14:56] <cyberlow> but compozer didn't run PHP Script?
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> root__: backtrack is offtopic here
[14:57] <rs0832> bonjoyee, is an archive manager able to open the file?
[14:57] <jhon> and if your a dreamweaver fan, you can always try to run the windows version in WINE if that is what you REALLY want
[14:58] <Shruikhan> Hallo.... can i troll someone?
[14:58] <bonjoyee> jhon: hmm...see when playing the file with mplayer...the clip timer actually detects the clips and resets to 00 when starting a new one...can i use this to split the files somehow?
[14:58] <bonjoyee> rs0832: no
[14:58] <parolang> cyberlow: Honestly, I don't know how many real web designers really use WYSIWYG systems like Dreamweaver/Frontpage.
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> Shruikhan: whats the point?
[14:59] <jhon> bonjoyee: you wont know how its working
[14:59] <jhon> until you open it with avidemux
[14:59] <jhon> sudo apt-get install avidemux
[14:59] <jhon> will install it
[15:00] <ki_van> Happy new year from Japan !
[15:00] <cyberlow> I am very confused ubumtu wear to work, because I am a web developer. I really need a web software
[15:00] <parolang> cyberlow: Hmm...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quanta_Plus
[15:00] <tas> anyone guide me?? I am trying to install photoshop via wine, but nthing happes after it says initializing photoshop..
[15:00] <rs0832> bonjoyee, hmm what is the mime type?(check in the properties>general) does it match?(mpg)
[15:00] <Stava> After a while Docky wont stay on top of maximized windows (http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/2566/screenshotnx.png). How do I (permanently) fix this? :o
[15:00] <JyZyXEL> how do i re-enable a device that libata has disabled cause of a timeout on hard reset?
[15:01] <bonjoyee> rs0832: its a 27gb file..the properties windows goes beserk!
[15:01] <cyberlow> can ubuntu to make hacking?
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | tas
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> cyberlow: any OS can with tools etc
[15:01] <bonjoyee> rs0832: output of "file" is : /media/My Passport/testdisk/recup_dir.1/f2310016.mpg: MPEG sequence, v4, still texture (missing profile header)
[15:02] <cyberlow> but i like ubuntu any more =D
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> !away > Aaron5367|detach
[15:04] <rs0832> bonjoyee, you can see if this contains anything useful.. http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/After_Using_PhotoRec
[15:05] <Dr_Willis> tas run wine installer.exe and look for error messagesd also..
[15:06] <Tito0096> Dr_Willis: I got it all settled
[15:06] <Tito0096> thanks fot the help
[15:06] <Dr_Willis> Tito0096:  great..  :) I cant even rember what the problem was....
[15:06] <Dr_Willis> But that dosent mean i wont send you the bill...... :P
[15:07] <Tito0096> haha
[15:07]  * Tito0096 Runs away
[15:07] <Tito0096> Dr_Willis: Grub booting problem, windows taking over etc ..
[15:07] <trojanking> cry for help, my stupid ubuntu dont show password on login scree
[15:07] <piyushmishra> what's your new year's resolution?
[15:07] <Dr_Willis> Tito0096:  it pays to learn grub-fu skills..
[15:08] <Dr_Willis> trojanking:  you mean it dosent echo *'s ? or dosent work
[15:08] <_oldgoat> need some tech help on creating an image of my netbook so i can create the same on another netbook
[15:08] <bonjoyee> rs0832: have checked that earlier..
[15:09] <zsharon> piyushmishra: 1280x1024
[15:09] <trojanking> i reboot computer
[15:09] <Tito0096> Dr_Willis: It pays to prepare for windows installs haha
[15:09] <trojanking> i reboot computer when trying to fix software center problem since then ubuntu has stopped to show me password field... meaning i can not login to desktop
[15:10] <_dj100500> what wubi.exe
[15:10] <zsharon> do you mean, "what is it"?
[15:11] <trojanking> oooh ubuntu why u tread me bad,,
[15:11] <trojanking> Ubuntu hates me why?
[15:11]  * Airliner_Guy installed 11.4 and i can't get it to talk to Windoze, how come nmbd isn't going?
[15:11] <Dr_Willis> Tito0096:  i use 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc' and tell it to install grub to the HD and to a small flash drive. that way i can boot the flash drive and get booted to the system. In case grub dies
[15:11] <Tito0096> Ooooooo
[15:11] <SwedeMike> Airliner_Guy: you should go to #ubuntu+1 for 11.04 talk.
[15:11] <Tito0096> interesting, i may have to try that some day lol
[15:11] <Dr_Willis> trojanking:  go to console (alt-ctrl-f1) login, do 'sudo service gdm stop' then 'startx'
[15:11] <Dr_Willis> trojanking:  thats one other way to login
[15:12] <livingdaylight>  installed ubuntu10.10 but it froze during install. I rebooted to find ubuntu installed nonetheless. I've installed all updates and system is current and apparently faultless. However, on each boot-up it says that lib/modules cannot be loaded; are missing. Is there a way to diagnose and fix from here or do I need to reinstall?
[15:12] <_oldgoat> need some tech help on creating an image of my netbook so i can create the same on another netbook using ubuntu 10.10
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  proberly safest to reinsatll.. If the isntaller crashed.. its hard to tell what dident get done.
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> _oldgoat:  'dd' command can make hard drive image files.
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> !clone | _oldgoat
[15:13] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis, can't diagnose and install missing bits??
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> _oldgoat:  dd will make an EXACT copy..
[15:13] <mb543> hi all
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  not very easially and how can you be 100% sure you got them all
[15:13] <livingdaylight> ok, thx :(
[15:14] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  the /lib/moduiles are part of the kernel packages.. you could try reinstalling the kernels.
[15:14] <cyberlow> jancok
[15:14] <_oldgoat> yes, but how do i copy that set of files to a CD so it is bootable as an install disk for other machines (identical machines)
[15:14] <Dr_Willis> _oldgoat:  mondo
[15:14] <cyberlow> koen jancok kabeh, asu mbokne ancok
[15:14] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis, during the updates new (latest) kernel modules got installed but still get the error message. Weirdly, haven't encountered any actual problems running Ubuntu
[15:14] <cyberlow> ubuntu jancok tekan kanonikal asu
[15:14] <_oldgoat> mondo?
[15:15] <rs0832> bonjoyee, you are looking for a demultiplexer
[15:15] <cyberlow> koen iku podo ngomong GATEL ta rek
[15:15] <rs0832> bonjoyee, the reason your file is 27 gb is because it is multiplexed, which means you need a demultiplexer to get back the individual files
[15:16] <milamber> _oldgoat: you may want to look into clonezilla
[15:16] <nprezident> hello
[15:16] <jack> !кг
[15:16] <cyberlow> kok gak onok seng nyauti yo
[15:16] <jack> !ru
[15:16] <omni> hey guys i have a question. I want to change all the files in a certain directory whose owners uid is 1006 to 2002. How can i do that?
[15:17] <_oldgoat> I tried clonzilla, but I cannot burn a cd/dvd from it
[15:17] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  could be old kernel has the issues..
[15:17] <dev2> how do I open an lzma file?
[15:17] <rs0832> bonjoyee, a tool that has demultiplexing ability is mpgtx
[15:17] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  remove any old kernels. perhaps
[15:17] <nprezident> can someone here please tell me how to update my kernel ?
[15:17] <bonjoyee> rs0832: thank you..ill check that
[15:18] <rs0832> bonjoyee, :)
[15:18] <Dr_Willis> nprezident:  sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (last is optional)
[15:18] <Dr_Willis> nprezident:  that will be the latest of everything from the repos.
[15:19] <nprezident> ok thank you
[15:19] <Dr_Willis> nprezident:  same way you update/upgrade anything else...
[15:19] <piyushmishra> zsharon: I was looking for that res but got this one
[15:20] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis, how does one remove kernels?
[15:20] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  via package maanger, or i cheat and use ubuntu-tweak
[15:20] <nprezident> ok if that's the case it doesn't work
[15:20] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis, tell me more?
[15:20] <zsharon> livingdaylight: pass to the quotient (oh this isn't #math..)
[15:22] <nprezident> i want to upgrade to linux-2.6.36.2 from 2.6.35-24-generic i installed .36.2 just don't know how to upgrade it
[15:23] <ylmf> buhaui
[15:25] <nprezident> hello ? is anybody their ?
[15:25] <rs0832> nprezident, if you installed it, run sudo update-grub and you will get an additional boot menu option
[15:25] <nprezident> no i didn't install it i only downloaded it from the site www.kernel.org
[15:25] <nprezident> unziped it
[15:25] <rs0832> nprezident, boot into that boot option to startup with the updated kernel
[15:26] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  install and try ubuntu-tweak it has a clean up feature.
[15:26] <Dr_Willis> gotta run
[15:26] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[15:26] <rs0832> nprezident, those need to be compiled..
[15:26] <jhon> nprezident: you dont have to download the latest kernel from kernel.org
[15:26] <rs0832> nprezident, did you check for it in the repos?
[15:26] <nprezident> i only downloaded it the problem i don't know how to install it, yes i checked in the repos and it didn't show up
[15:26] <Guest64562> hlooo
[15:26] <jhon> you can ofc but that needs to be set up, compiled, and properly linked
[15:27] <Asigottech> hey, anybody know where the Xsplash folders been moved to in 10.10
[15:27] <AnggaDj98> gobbe: hi, i tried wacom driver yesterday, but my bamboo pen & touch does not recognize my touch but does recognize the pen. Can you help me awhile?
[15:27] <nprezident> how do i compile ?
[15:28] <rs0832> nprezident, there should be a readme/install file in the archive.. you normally follow the instructions there
[15:28] <jhon> nprezident: http://www.sysdesign.ca/guides/linux_kernel.html
[15:29] <nprezident> lol there is and that's why im here
[15:29] <nprezident> im going to try again
[15:29] <rs0832> nprezident, k :) good luck.. if you need help, you can ask one of us
[15:29] <_joey> why is ubuntu so popular?
[15:29] <nprezident> ok thanx
[15:29] <subz3r0> _joey, why not?
[15:29] <induz> वहात िस ाचतुाललय ऽेदिाॐिकि??
[15:29] <_joey> there should be a reason
[15:29] <induz> what is actually Mediawiki?
[15:30] <rs0832> _joey, because it;s free, well and actively developed
[15:30] <rs0832> induz, it is the software that powers wikipedia
[15:30] <subz3r0> _joey, it just roxx. its stable and reliable
[15:30] <induz> do I have to download it??
[15:30] <_joey> there are many free linux distrubtions being actively developed
[15:30] <rs0832> induz, nope
[15:30] <IdleOne> !ot
[15:30] <induz> oic
[15:31] <induz> some one told me to download it so i thought of asking/
[15:31] <subz3r0> _joey,  ubunutu has a outstanding support, much better than other distributions
[15:31] <Asigottech> _joey, there are indeed, and each has ther good and bad points, Ubuntu Linux happens to be well setup and supported for Desktops and Servers and based on the solid Debian system
[15:31] <_joey> subz3r0 it is relatively new
[15:31] <rs0832> induz, don;t worry you dont need to.. it has nothing to do with ubuntu
[15:31] <AnggaDj98> _joey its 6 years old already
[15:31] <induz> rs0832, still have not found out how to type ग्यान on OO
[15:31] <Asigottech> _joey, no, its not even close to be being relevalty new
[15:32]  * _joey thinks he knows why  it became popular
[15:32] <AnggaDj98> !ot
[15:32] <_joey> Asigottech: yes it is
[15:32] <subz3r0> let us know _joey
[15:32]  * Asigottech note to self , do not feed the Troll
[15:32]  * subz3r0 s curious
[15:32] <_joey> in comparison to slackware, fedora, opensuse, debian
[15:32]  * AnggaDj98 thinks Ubuntu is popular for its continuous support, nice UI, and its power user ability
[15:32] <IdleOne> Please take this conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:32]  * AnggaDj98 likes ubuntu
[15:32] <indystorm> hi
[15:32] <AnggaDj98> !ot
[15:33] <_joey> it's popular because it has been modelled after most popular distro
[15:33] <AnggaDj98> go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:33] <_joey> with one exception
[15:33] <AnggaDj98> dont chat about it here
[15:33] <rs0832> induz, hmm sorry, i am not really experienced with localisations/translations/dictionaries... you can ask on the open office channel though, i think they might be able to help
[15:33] <_joey> why not?
[15:33] <AnggaDj98> !ot | _joey
[15:33] <IdleOne> _joey: you are offtopic, this channel is for support not discussion of popularity
[15:33] <_joey> !ot AnggaDj98
[15:34] <cdbs> _joey: Such ?s are more welcome in #ubuntu-offtopic. This is a support channel
[15:34] <AnggaDj98> ?
[15:34] <subz3r0> _joey,  go spam somewhere else
[15:34] <cdbs> _joey: and you're adding to the channel backlog
[15:34] <trojanking_> I love ubuntu because it stresses my brain
[15:34] <ryan_languagelab> hi. I have an intel integrated graphics card and an nvidia card. Is it possible to use both? I would prefer to use whatever card has better linux support.
[15:34] <cdbs> !ot > trojanking_
[15:34] <_joey> bollocks, look how much flood you are generating
[15:34] <rs0832> _joey, this channel needs to be kept clear of offtopic discussions so that anyone who needs help can get it properly.. for this reason, the #ubuntu-offtopic channel exists
[15:35] <_joey> I only type 5-6 sentences
[15:35] <AnggaDj98> You are offtopic _joey go to #ubuntu-offtopic by typing /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:35] <subz3r0> ryan_languagelab, use the nividia card. the support is just awesome :)
[15:35] <AnggaDj98> !enter | _joey
[15:35] <dr4c4n> ryan_languagelab: I have always had good luck with my nvidia cards
[15:35] <IdleOne> AnggaDj98: Please stop.
[15:35] <_joey> shush already
[15:35] <AnggaDj98> IdleOne: ok
[15:35] <Asigottech> ryan_languagelab, NIVDIA and INTEl have good support, the Nividia (Im using one now) will be supported and prob better
[15:36] <ryan_languagelab> dr4c4n, subz3r0: thanks. How can I specify linux to use the nvidia driver only?
[15:36] <ryan_languagelab> i've had a lot of problems trying to get the nvidia card working.
[15:36] <dr4c4n> ryan_languagelab: it usually comes up in proprietary drivers, and nvidia has an excellent section on their website for drivers of all their card models
[15:36] <induz> rs0832, do u know how can i get into OO chaneel
[15:36] <Asigottech> ryan_languagelab, no need to, it will offer to install the driver and it will install an offical cp for you
[15:37] <IdleOne> !register > induz
[15:37] <dr4c4n> ryan_languagelab: there's usually a hardware drivers option under system, if you don't see that
[15:37] <Asigottech> ryan_languagelab, Basicly Ubuntu will ask you if you want it to donwload and install it all for you, you say yes and enter password and you is dun
[15:37] <JyZyXEL> how do i re-enable a device that libata has disabled cause of a timeout on hard reset?
[15:37] <IdleOne> induz: after you register and identify (see the msg from ubottu ) you can /join #openoffice.org
[15:37] <dr4c4n> JyZyXEL: option in BIOS?
[15:37] <ryan_languagelab> Asigottech:  my major concern is that when i orginally installed the proprietary driver, it woudl flas "_" and not load
[15:38] <JyZyXEL> dr4c4n: what?
[15:38] <ryan_languagelab> let me see I might still have the X.org log file
[15:38] <BluesKaj> induz, did it ever occur to you to type #openoffice , then click on it ?
[15:38] <dr4c4n> JyZyXEL: does it still show up as a device?
[15:38] <Asigottech> ryan_languagelab, you do not need to install it, Ubuntu will do it for you mainly, no probs like there where a few years ago, Im using one now
[15:38] <subz3r0> ryan_languagelab, what version of ubuntu?
[15:38] <rs0832> induz, if you are having problems joining the oo channel, see IdleOne 's message above ^^ if you want to know the open office channel name, see the list of oo channels at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/IRC_Communication
[15:38] <ryan_languagelab> subz3r0: 10.10, nvidia gt 330m
[15:38] <JyZyXEL> dr4c4n: yeah
[15:39] <subz3r0> ryan_languagelab, should be no problem, as it will be installed automaticly after you hit yes
[15:39] <Rami1983> hello
[15:39] <subz3r0> hello Rami1983
[15:39] <JyZyXEL> dr4c4n: you just can't read from it cause its disabled by libata
[15:39] <ryan_languagelab> ok i will try this out
[15:39] <induz> #openoffice
[15:39] <ryan_languagelab> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current?
[15:39] <Asigottech> ryan_languagelab, if you have already installed 10.10 just goto system - prefrences - apperance and click on advanced, then click on medium and go from there
[15:39] <IdleOne> ryan_languagelab: System > Administration > Additional drivers should offer to install any 3rd party drivers
[15:40] <subz3r0> ryan_languagelab,  follow Asigottech steps
[15:40] <IdleOne> *that are supported*
[15:40] <dr4c4n> JyZyXEL: enable from grub command line?
[15:40] <JyZyXEL> ??
[15:40] <Rami1983> i dd"ed" accedentliy my usb mp3 player and it doesn't work anymore? how should i format it now?
[15:40] <JyZyXEL> you can do that?
[15:40] <dr4c4n> JyZyXEL: libata.atapi_enabled=1
[15:40] <JyZyXEL> where do you give the device?
[15:41] <trojanking_> please how can i get mass mailling software for ubuntu if i want to send a campaigne or advert
[15:41] <ryan_languagelab> IdleOne: the only additional drivers I am getting is a modem
[15:41] <subz3r0> Rami1983, FAT filesystem should be used
[15:41] <IdleOne> ryan_languagelab: you can try what Asigottech suggested
[15:41] <dr4c4n> JyZyXEL: this is for a dvd drive: but perhaps similar settings may work for you: http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/SATA_CD_DVD.html
[15:42] <subz3r0> fat16 or 32, just try it
[15:42] <trojanking_> please how can i get mass mailling software for ubuntu if i want to send a campaigne or advert
[15:42] <IdleOne> Rami1983: install gparted and then format to fat
[15:42] <ryan_languagelab> Asigottech: not seeing an advanced option in appearance
[15:42] <JyZyXEL> dr4c4n: how does that have anything to do with this?
[15:42] <Rami1983> thanks
[15:42] <Rami1983> but i get this message
[15:42] <rs0832> trojanking_, you can use libmail-bulkmail-perl from synaptic or any other mailing list program
[15:42] <Rami1983> Error creating partition: helper exited with exit code 1: In part_add_partition: device_file=/dev/sdb, start=0, size=1938817024, type=0x0c
[15:42] <Rami1983> Entering MS-DOS parser (offset=0, size=1938817024)
[15:42] <Rami1983> MSDOS_MAGIC found
[15:42] <Rami1983> looking at part 0 (offset 0, size 0, type 0x00)
[15:42] <FloodBot2> Rami1983: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:42] <Rami1983> new part entry
[15:42] <dr4c4n> JyZyXEL: it's added to kernel boot parameters: well if it's disabled by libata - then u must enable it
[15:42] <subz3r0> Rami1983, stop pasting more than 3 lines
[15:43] <subz3r0> use pastebin.com instead
[15:43] <IdleOne> ryan_languagelab: do you see Visual Effects?
[15:43] <ibrahim> cc
[15:43] <JyZyXEL> dr4c4n: "it" being what?
[15:43] <dr4c4n> JyZyXEL: the device that you were saying was disabled after a hard reset
[15:43] <ryan_languagelab> IdleOne: yes I've tried to switch to "Normal" but it says it doesn't work... is there a log file I can check?
[15:43] <subz3r0> .var/log
[15:43] <IdleOne> ryan_languagelab: what card do you have?
[15:43] <subz3r0> ./var/log
[15:44] <JyZyXEL> dr4c4n: well the article you showed me had nothing to do with it
[15:44] <ryan_languagelab> IdleOne: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT216 [GeForce GT 330M] (rev a2)
[15:44] <Asigottech> ryan_languagelab, visual effect s sorry
[15:45] <Asigottech> ryan_languagelab, just click on visual effcts then medium and the drivers search screen apears
[15:45] <dr4c4n> JyZyXEL: it has to do with enabling libata to run those devices at kernel boot from grub
[15:45] <dr4c4n> JyZyXEL: what type of device are you trying to enable?
[15:45] <JyZyXEL> libata is enabled obviously
[15:45] <danishman> happy newyear
[15:45] <ryan_languagelab> Asigottech: yes it fails
[15:45] <JyZyXEL> dr4c4n: a block device
[15:45] <Asigottech> ryan_languagelab, it will then search and list a beta driver and a recomended driver, selct the recomended one and it does the rest
[15:46] <ryan_languagelab> Asigottech: it doesn't do that... is there any other dialog i can use?
[15:47] <rgb247> I have a question
[15:47] <rgb247> how can I login as root in Gnome interface on ubuntu 10.10
[15:47] <ryan_languagelab> "Desktop effects could not be enabled."
[15:47] <Asigottech> ryan_languagelab, /usr/bin/jockey-gtk
[15:47] <induz> I joined OO channel but...
[15:47] <Asigottech> ryan_languagelab, sorry, from bash run /usr/bin/jockey-gtk
[15:47] <rgb247> to make some changes at nvidia cpanel
[15:47] <dr4c4n> JyZyXEL: perhaps: http://www.kernel.org/doc/htmldocs/libata.html ? I'm not sure. I've not run into that problem
[15:47] <trojanking_> rs0832 how do i get to the file
[15:47] <induz> I getting used to Ubuntu slowly but steadily
[15:47] <dr4c4n> JyZyXEL: good luck & happy new year
[15:47] <Chousuke> rgb247: you shouldn't. instead run whatever application you need as root.
[15:47] <Asigottech> rgb247, with a admin password ?
[15:47] <rs0832> trojanking_, what file?
[15:48] <Chousuke> rgb247: by using gksudo
[15:48] <ryan_languagelab> Asigottech:  the problem is it's only listing a modem
[15:48] <rgb247> I know the admin password, but I don't know where to type it
[15:48] <nprezident> is their a way where i can just back up all my files into a tar from my /home/myname > ) just thought about before my computer gets mad at me and delete everything ?
[15:48] <Chousuke> rgb247: most applications should prompt you for admin access when you need it.
[15:48] <trojanking_> the limbs mailer
[15:48] <rs0832> trojanking_, from synaptic
[15:48] <Asigottech> ryan_languagelab, your card is connected properley ?
[15:48] <trojanking_> k
[15:49] <rgb247> yes, but for example, I want to make some changes at nvidia graphic card and it doesn't saves after restart
[15:49] <jbatista> hi
[15:49] <Asigottech> ryan_languagelab, run lspci and look for it from bash
[15:49] <rw1> hey all and a happy new year
[15:49] <jbatista> is there a way to manually(!!) reconfigure a python package (without resorting to the dpkg system) ?
[15:49] <rgb247> Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'!
[15:49] <Chousuke> rgb247: the most straightforward way to do that is to run "gksudo /path/to/nvidia_tool" from the terminal.
[15:50] <ryan_languagelab> Asigottech: I do have http://paste2.org/p/1171105 in my blacklist.conf
[15:50] <jbatista> in this case, it's lazr.restfulclient
[15:50] <jbatista> because I can't get apport-bug to work
[15:50] <Chousuke> rgb247: of course, you'll have to find out that path by yourself since I have no idea what it actually is.
[15:50] <IdleOne> ryan_languagelab: I think nvidia-current should support your card
[15:50] <Asigottech> ryan_languagelab, hash out or remove the nividia entry
[15:51] <erUSUL> nprezident: « tar czf /path/to/somewhere/safe/my_home_backup.tgz /home/username » ( do it from recovery mode or a livecd )
[15:51] <nprezident> thanx erUSUL
[15:52] <azizLIGHTS> the 10.10 livecd doesnt have macchanger by default?
[15:52] <Shakka_Z> how can i slow the log refresh rate to reduce access to my drive?
[15:52] <ryan_languagelab> Asigottech, IdleOne: I will give this a go...
[15:52] <Asigottech> azizLIGHTS, use ifconfig or apt-get install macchanger
[15:52] <ryan_languagelab> sorry which entry should I commend out?
[15:52] <azizLIGHTS> what is it mean to enable universe
[15:52] <ryan_languagelab> nvidiafb or nouveau?
[15:52] <azizLIGHTS> how to enable component universe
[15:53] <IdleOne> !repos | azizLIGHTS
[15:53] <azizLIGHTS> can this be scripted?
[15:53] <Asigottech> ryan_languagelab, all graphic card related
[15:54] <azizLIGHTS> i want to enable component universe, sudo apt-get install maccchanger, use macchanger to randomize mac address, and ifconfig eth up
[15:54] <azizLIGHTS> all in script
[15:54] <nprezident> you ppl are great lol
[15:55] <kevin__> Anyone able to help me with an NFS problem?
[15:55] <azizLIGHTS> so, is it possible to add this universe repo via script?
[15:55] <IdleOne> azizLIGHTS: if you read the link ubottu gave you and enabled universe you could be done in 3 minutes
[15:55] <ZykoticK9> azizLIGHTS, are you sure Universe isn't already enabled?  I believe it is by default.  "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and look for a line similar to 'deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid universe' this indicates that it is enabled.
[15:55] <azizLIGHTS> which one
[15:55] <IdleOne> !repos > azizLIGHTS
[15:55] <azizLIGHTS> ZykoticK9: checking
[15:56] <Asigottech> azizLIGHTS, why ?
[15:56] <azizLIGHTS> i see maverick-updates maverick-security and multiverse
[15:57] <azizLIGHTS> in sources.list
[15:57] <ZykoticK9> azizLIGHTS, be sure to start from the top
[15:57] <azizLIGHTS> oh whoops
[15:57] <azizLIGHTS> yeah, universe is there
[15:57] <azizLIGHTS> hm
[15:57] <azizLIGHTS> then how come apt-get complains that macchanger not there
[15:58] <trojanking_> rs0832 i do i find the mass mailling softwares in synaptic
[15:58] <azizLIGHTS> E: unable to locate package macchanger
[15:58] <ZykoticK9> azizLIGHTS, "sudo apt-get update" then try again
[15:58] <Shakka_Z> is there a config file for ./var/log files? I want to slow the refresh rate, therefore reduce disk write rate.
[15:59] <ryan_languagelab> IdleOne: okay so now when I try to run nvidia-settings, it says I do not appear to be running the NVIDIA X driver
[15:59] <azizLIGHTS> sudo apt-get update
[15:59] <azizLIGHTS> er. wrong window sory
[15:59] <ryan_languagelab> it says to run nvidia-xconfig
[15:59] <madscientist032> anyone know of a jailbreak irc channel
[15:59] <IdleOne> ryan_languagelab: run: nvidia-xconfig
[15:59] <ryan_languagelab> but I'm confused because I thought ubuntu was moving away from x.org files
[15:59] <ZykoticK9> ryan_languagelab, "sudo nvidia-xconfig" will create an xorg.conf file
[16:00] <rs0832> trojanking_, type 'mailing list' in the quick search.. and look through the results for mailing list servers/daemons... a good mailing list manager is sympa
[16:00] <ZykoticK9> ryan_languagelab, not for proprietary drivers
[16:00] <cfont> ciao a tutti :)
[16:00] <ZykoticK9> !it | cfont
[16:00] <mortal> hello. is it possible to load ubuntu to ramdisk and stop the laptop hd
[16:01] <superduper> mortal, yes
[16:01] <Frenk> Hey, how can I test my server under high-load?
[16:01]  * azizLIGHTS waits for headers patiently at 99%
[16:02] <mortal> superduper: are there any guides?
[16:02] <Frenk> I mean how can I create a high-load on my server to test the stability?
[16:02] <WeThePeople> mortal, you can load knoppix to ram...start there i guess
[16:03] <azizLIGHTS> ddos yourself?
[16:03] <erUSUL> Frenk: do a kernel compile with may threaths. make -j15 or something ( deopending on the number of cores/cpu's )
[16:04] <Frenk> azizLIGHTS: I do not have a botnet =)
[16:04] <azizLIGHTS> ZykoticK9: unfortunately, after sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install macchanger i still get "E: Unable to locate package macchanger"
[16:04] <erUSUL> Shakka_Z: look at (r)syslog configuration
[16:04] <ZykoticK9> azizLIGHTS, sorry I can't explain that.  Best of luck.
[16:04] <erUSUL> !find macchanger
[16:05] <erUSUL> !info macchanger
[16:05] <azizLIGHTS> hmmm, so whats going on here?
[16:05] <Frenk> !offtopic azizLIGHTS
[16:05] <LunaVorax> Hi everyone !
[16:06] <azizLIGHTS> eh?
[16:06] <dev_urandom> does anyone here have a tablet pc without a keyboard running ubuntu?
[16:06] <LunaVorax> The convert_dxa.sh script in the ScummVM tools 1.2.0 seems pretty outdated
[16:06] <azizLIGHTS> it exists as a package but doesnt show for me ? how come
[16:06] <dev_urandom> you know, touch only
[16:06] <azizLIGHTS> can i get it externally?
[16:07] <LunaVorax> It relies on wine with the RAD video tools only to convert the smk to png+wav while ffmpeg can do it very simply
[16:07] <dev_urandom> i think that ubuntu sucks at tablet pc support
[16:07] <dev_urandom> what about making an unofficial ubuntu version for touch devices?
[16:08] <eueuueue> hi, do you guys know any good video editors?
[16:08] <madscientist032> i know this isnt the best channel for this, but i'm looking for a good room for jailbreaking support
[16:08] <dev_urandom> eueuueue: change nickname please, it's hard to type ;P
[16:08] <LunaVorax> eueuueue, what os ?
[16:08] <oystein> kdenlive is pretty good
[16:08] <compdoc> theres supposed to an ubuntu tablet coming out
[16:08] <rs0832> eueuueue, pitivi and avidemux
[16:08] <erUSUL> azizLIGHTS: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[16:08] <dev_urandom> yeah...
[16:08] <BluesKaj> dev_urandom, use thetab key to finish the nick
[16:08] <LunaVorax> eueuueue, OpenShot
[16:08] <ZykoticK9> dev_urandom, eue(TAB) what's hard about that?
[16:09] <pat> WHat's the quickest way to make something (denyhosts in this case) start at boot?  update rc something but I'm not sure exactly
[16:09] <azizLIGHTS> is it deb files that you install on ubuntu?
[16:09] <n0wje> Happy New Year everyone!
[16:09] <ryan_languagelab> IdleOne: okay... I should have said from the start that I've tried to fix this a bunch of times but I always end up with the error I just got: http://paste2.org/p/1171116 ... here is the X.org nvidia-xconfig generated: http://paste2.org/p/1171118 .... here is the output of lspci: http://paste2.org/p/1171119
[16:09] <dev_urandom> thx
[16:09] <LunaVorax> kdenlive is bloated imho
[16:09] <rs0832> azizLIGHTS, yes
[16:09] <ryan_languagelab> basically it says "No screens found"
[16:09] <dev_urandom> but Ubuntu Tablet, or how do you call it, will surely have Unity
[16:09] <Shakka_Z> erUSUL: i'm not that experienced, i cant't find (r)syslog, where is it?
[16:10] <erUSUL> Shakka_Z: /etc/syslog.conf  ?
[16:10] <ryan_languagelab> okay I may havr to use Option "ignoreABI" "True" in my xorg.conf
[16:10] <dev_urandom> why don't we change a lot in Ubuntu 10.10 interface to make it good for touch devices?
[16:11]  * DavidCameron eats shit.
[16:11] <dev_urandom> bigger buttons, everything in one place, y'know
[16:11] <madscientist032> i'm trying to jailbreak my ipod touch but the vids on youtube and random forum posts aren't heliping me out
[16:12]  * DavidCameron rides cock until the morning.
[16:12] <Frenk> Could you do me a favour and nmap or just load this IP: 88.198.57.242. I am the administrator and I just want to see the server under high-load to test my settings. Would be great.
[16:13] <Shakka_Z> erUSUL: thanks!!!! you made my day!
[16:13] <BIGBAMBU> hi sometimes my ubuntu 10.10 start without default theme how can fix the problem
[16:13] <erUSUL> Shakka_Z: probably you want /etc/rsyslog.conf and /etc/rsyslog.d/* too
[16:14] <madscientist032> nevermind im good found a channel peace out
[16:14] <Frenk> Shakka_Z: use updatedb and then locate (something) you search for (filenames only)
[16:15] <erUSUL> Frenk: i would not count a symple net scan as "high load"
[16:17] <sorush201> any one know of a webcam that works with linux and its new and high def?
[16:17] <Shakka_Z> Frenk: thanks
[16:17] <Frenk> erUSUL: I just want to test it. I aso could upload post to 4chan with a link to my server >D But I want to see the servers load under port-scans at the moment. So it would be great if people would do this to 88.198.57.242. I am the admin so this is not illegal.
[16:17] <ryan_languagelab> I am trying to load the nvidia graphics driver but I am getting "No screens found" -- is it appropriate to post bounties in here for helping to solve issues?
[16:18] <Frenk> ryan_languagelab: pastebin
[16:18] <Toph> in ubuntu 10.10, where are the application executables stored?
[16:18] <tsimpson> Frenk: just saying "I am the admin" is not proof of ownership, and port scans are not illegal anyway
[16:18] <ryan_languagelab> Freeaqingme: http://paste2.org/p/1171116
[16:19] <rs0832> Toph, normally application executables are stored in /usr/bin
[16:19] <KM0201> Toph: not really sure. /usr/bin maybe?
[16:19] <ryan_languagelab> Frenk: this is lspci for nvidia http://paste2.org/p/1171119
[16:19] <Toph> ok,, thanks
[16:19] <hjk> chat.freenode.net/#makerbot
[16:20] <KM0201> ryan_languagelab: so is that a really old device, or a really new device?
[16:20] <devkorcvince> Happy New Year
[16:20] <hjk> Hyppy New Year to all
[16:20] <ryan_languagelab> KM0201: it's pretty new I think
[16:20] <KM0201> ok..
[16:20]  * Tito0096 is away: I'm either AFK or jerking it, I will get back ASAP.
[16:20] <Frenk> tsimpson: Agree ) But noone can actually prove hes the admin. Yeah agree that its not illigal. I just want to test my snort-psad settings not only by using my IP
[16:20] <tsimpson> !away > Tito0096
[16:20] <Shakka_Z> erUSUL: thanks, you gave me good clues. I'll do my homework and learn about it.
[16:21] <madsj> I have symlinks to the libjava-plugins under /usr/lib/firefox, but they're not working (they're pointing to Sun's version)
[16:21] <AuroN> o.O
[16:21] <madsj> and the links in /etc/alternatives are not broken
[16:21] <wildc4rd> afternoon all!
[16:21] <alpha> When running tiger I get this FAIL (is this serious?): Installed file `/var/lib/ghc-6.12.1/package.conf.d/package.cache' checksum differs from installed package 'ghc6'.
[16:22] <jbatista> hi people
[16:22] <AuroN> !lista
[16:22] <jbatista> does anyone know how to MANUALLY configure the python packaging installation ?
[16:22] <IdleOne> madsj: update-alternatives --config java
[16:22] <jbatista> I'm having trouble with apport-bug (ubuntu-bug)
[16:22] <AuroN> !salir
[16:23] <jbatista> and I've traced it to python-lazr.restfulclient
[16:23] <madsj> IdleOne: already pointing to sun
[16:24]  * Tito0096 is back (gone 00:03:36)
[16:25] <eueuueue> nah, couldn't use any of those, I never edited a video before, isn't a tutorial somewhere? T.T?
[16:25] <jbatista> jbatista
[16:25] <ryan_languagelab> Frenk: do you have any suggestions for the "No screens found"
[16:26] <erUSUL> Shakka_Z: no problem; good luck
[16:28] <rgb247> Happy new year !
[16:28] <Kwiz> same to u
[16:28] <usuario> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[16:29] <erUSUL> !es | usua
[16:29] <ryan_languagelab> I am having an issue with the nvidia driver and "no screens found" ...does anyone have any advice troubleshooting this problem?
[16:31] <complete> Good Evening Ubuntu! Before 2010 finally dies, i have a question: Whats a good way to find all files that contain the word "cheese" but not the word "coke"?
[16:31] <iLinux> !offtopic
[16:32] <iLinux> !offtopic | complete
[16:32] <Gnea> iLinux: wrong.
[16:32] <xangua> iLinux: ¿¿¿
[16:32] <iLinux> owff..
[16:32] <iLinux> heehehehe
[16:32] <iLinux> sorry
[16:32] <complete> iLinux: did this year somebody already tell you, that you suck?
[16:32] <Gnea> complete: find / -name "*cheese*"
[16:32] <iLinux> nope...
[16:33] <iLinux> complete: Nope
[16:33] <complete> iLinux: looks like good send me here to do it in the last minute.
[16:33] <iLinux> ok, ok
[16:33] <iLinux> fine
[16:33] <iLinux> i was wrong and blah blah blah
[16:33] <iLinux> continue..
[16:33] <jbatista> anyone? :(
[16:33] <Gnea> complete: just ignore iLinux, he's just a noob
[16:34] <rs0832> jbatista, what are you trying to do?
[16:34] <rs0832> jbatista, where do you get the error?
[16:35] <jbatista> rs0832: I'm trying to run apport-bug, the error I get is:
[16:35] <jbatista> rs0832: Could not import module, is a package upgrade in progress? Error: No module named restfulclient.errors
[16:35] <iLinux> Gnea: what an asshole that you think i'm a noob,
[16:35] <Gnea> complete: if you want to get nitty-gritty, find / -name "*cheese*" | grep -v coke
[16:35] <IdleOne> !language | iLinux
[16:35] <jbatista> I'll gladly consult another forum if this is beyond this one's
[16:35] <Gnea> !attitude | iLinux
[16:35] <iLinux> fine fine fine..
[16:36] <iLinux> (i don't like channels with f*cking rules. they're asshole
[16:36] <complete> Gnea: that will not produce a list of files that contain cheese but no coke
[16:36] <rs0832> jbatista, hmm seems to me like you have a missing module.. try checking the requirements of apport-bug
[16:36] <Gnea> complete: yes, it will.
[16:36] <jbatista> rs0832: I've tried reinstalling apport-bug, etc
[16:37] <rs0832> jbatista, reinstalling apport-bug will not install the dependency modules for it... they will have to be installed separately
[16:38] <jbatista> rs0832 http://paste.ubuntu.com/549123/
[16:38] <complete> Gnea: first of all, it will look for files with "cheese" in the name. not files with cheese in the file.
[16:38] <Gnea> complete: the way you asked the question, it sounded like you were looking for cheese and not coke only in the filenames, not within the files themselves, therefore the solution is sound
[16:39] <rs0832> jbatista, ah i think the missing module is lazr.restfulclient
[16:39] <complete> Gnea: within the file.
[16:39] <rs0832> jbatista, you can dl it at http://pypi.python.org/pypi/lazr.restfulclient
[16:39] <complete> Gnea: read my question. "Whats a good way to find all files that contain the word". Im very precisely when it comes to words. Im a nerd, you know.
[16:39] <rs0832> jbatista, download the module and install it.. the documentation of the module should tell you how.. if you cant do it then feel free to ask :)
[16:40] <jbatista> rs0832 in lucid this module is provided by python-lazr.restfulclient
[16:40] <chris_openbsd> complete: then use the adjective not the adverb
[16:40] <jbatista> rs0832 I think that the dpkg system somehow missed running the python dependencies
[16:40] <ZykoticK9> complete, if you need to look inside the file then "grep" is your friend
[16:40] <jbatista> rs0832 but I *really* don't know where I should be looking ....
[16:40] <rs0832> jbatista, hmm try opening a python shell and typing : import python-lazr.restfulclient
[16:42] <Gnea> complete: aah, in that case:  find / -type f -exec grep cheese {} \; | grep -v coke
[16:42] <vlt_> Hello. I just instslled Ubuntu. I'm missing the network manager icon to connect to a wireless network. How to add it?
[16:43] <rs0832> jbatista, the python modules in ubuntu are generally in /usr/lib/pythonx.y
[16:43] <morgan> quick, ultranoob, question
[16:43] <morgan> i've just installed ubuntu server
[16:43] <rs0832> vlt_, press alt-f2 and type nm-applet
[16:43] <morgan> how do i get into the gui? :P
[16:44] <rs0832> morgan, ubuntu server doesnt have a gui by default
[16:44] <complete> Gnea: that will search for lines that contain cheese but not coke. im searching for files.
[16:44] <jbatista> rs0832 http://paste.ubuntu.com/549123/
[16:44] <IdleOne> morgan: server version does not install a GUI but you can install one by doing sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[16:44] <rs0832> morgan, you will have to install one if you want to have one
[16:44] <Gnea> complete: feel free to troll elsewhere.
[16:44] <morgan> ah, thanks
[16:44] <Quantum_Ion> yeah troll elsewhere
[16:44] <jbatista> rs0832 sorry I meant http://paste.ubuntu.com/549125/
[16:44] <morgan> i should have installed ubuntu desktop instead i guess..
[16:44] <complete> Gnea: your line will spit out lines that contain cheese but not coke.
[16:44] <Gnea> complete: man grep  while you're at it
[16:45] <complete> Gnea: you dont get it. believe me, you are more noob then me.
[16:45] <Quantum_Ion> morgan, Yeah you should have because it is obvious you don't what the hell your doing
[16:45] <jbatista> rs0832 the last line is from /usr/share/pyshared/launchpadlib/errors.py
[16:45] <morgan> Quantum_Ion: yup
[16:45] <rs0832> jbatista, that confirms that the module is not installed... you can install it from the link i gave you above
[16:45] <complete> Gnea: here is a solution using awk: find . -type f -exec awk '/cheese/{f=1}/coke/{c=1;exit}END{exit !f ||c }' {} \; -print
[16:45] <jbatista> rs0832 it seemed to work up until some package installation from the lucid repos
[16:45] <morgan> this is just a machine that i've got all my videos and such on
[16:45] <complete> Gnea: but i would prefer grep. if there is an easy solution.
[16:46] <jbatista> rs0832 I'll look into it then
[16:46] <rs0832> jbatista, hmm did it update python?
[16:46] <jbatista> rs0832 but it's strange because it DID work before...
[16:46] <Gnea> complete: it's like I said, man grep
[16:46] <rs0832> jbatista, if so, then your default python version must be changed... the updated version may not contain the module
[16:46] <complete> Gnea: i dont think there is an easy solution with grep.
[16:47] <Gnea> complete: there never is when you're unwilling to do any real work and rely on others to do things for you.
[16:47] <jbatista> rs0832 no I was trying packages from the lucid repos, but I can't attribute to any particular one
[16:48] <Gnea> complete: usually it isn't so bad, but when you go out of your way like that...
[16:48] <jbatista> rs0832 I noticed no python update
[16:48] <Gnea> !attitude | complete
[16:48] <a> ababababa
[16:48] <IdleOne> Gnea: please drop it.
[16:48] <rs0832> jbatista, which version of ubuntu are you running? lucid?
[16:48] <jbatista> rs0832 I did try reinstall of python
[16:48] <szaboi> a: :D
[16:48] <jbatista> rs0832 yes lucid
[16:48] <Gnea> IdleOne: I'm sure you can see that I have.
[16:48] <coz_> complete,  what was the original question .. I t hink I missed it
[16:49] <jbatista> rs0832 in amd64
[16:49] <jahrra> hey guys, i got some hardware problems with my acer notebook and i'm going to use a samsung notebook instead. i use a dual-boot-system with win7 and natty. i will try to interchange the harddrive (i do have backups) - can you give me any advice on preparing natty to run on different hardware? e.g. on windows I'll try to install the samsung drivers before
[16:49] <rs0832> jbatista, ah then the reinstall is the problem
[16:49] <jbatista> rs0832 how so?
[16:49] <a_> i've got an idea
[16:49] <rs0832> jbatista, it may not have installed the module
[16:50] <rs0832> jbatista, try installing the module and let me know... http://pypi.python.org/pypi/lazr.restfulclient
[16:50] <coz_> jhattara,   mmm...  generally in my experience it is always best to simply reinstall fresh onto the new system...
[16:50] <jbatista> rs0832 you mean that the installation of the package does not necessarily lead to the module being recognized by python-central (or something like that) ?
[16:50] <jbatista> rs0832 OK I'll look into that link
[16:50] <complete> coz_: finding all files that contain "coke" but not "cheese"
[16:50] <rs0832> jbatista, something like that
[16:50] <jbatista> rs0832 bummer :(
[16:50] <rs0832> jbatista, ok good luck.. if it doesnt work, let me know and i'll try to find another solution
[16:51] <a_> lets make ubuntu desktop: one, clear-looking menu, one tiny dock, some buttons on desktop (everything ofc big, for emerits :) and call it ubuntu for tablets and old people!
[16:51] <a_> i know, i suck at marketing
[16:51] <coz_> complete,  ah   ok  mm  you mean like    find . -name "rc.conf" -print
[16:52] <a_> complete: yeah, when you drink coke, it's not good to eat cheese... i approve :/
[16:52] <IdleOne> !ot | a_
[16:52] <rs0832> jbatista, are you still there?
[16:52] <jbatista> rs0832 one more thing, where can I read up on how ubuntu manages the installation of the modules from the repository packages?
[16:53] <vlt_> rs0832: There's already an instance of nm-applet running. It seems to be a child of gnome-session and `ps` shows it as "nm-applet --sm-disable". Any idea?
[16:53] <complete> coz_: dont know what you mean with "like find . -name..."
[16:53] <rs0832> jbatista, you can do it an easier way... in synaptic, there is the package (python-lazr.restfulclient). try a reinstall of that and if that doesnt work, try the one on the site i gave you
[16:53] <jbatista> rs0832 yep still here
[16:53] <morgan> when installing ubuntu desktop, i will have that in addition to the server edition?
[16:53] <coz_> complete,   oh sorry            find  -name "nameyouwanttofine"   -print
[16:53] <jbatista> rs0832 ok I'll try from synaptic
[16:54] <jbatista> rs0832 I'm more of a console guy, so I've been using apt-get ...
[16:54] <complete> coz_: i said nothing about filenames. only about file contents.
[16:55] <hihihi100> i2p help pls: I compiled it in my home folder, but I have moved it to a new folder in home/compiled. I rescribed the paths in i2prouter, but i2p doesnt work, what other paths do i have to rewrite?
[16:55] <rs0832_> jbatista, sudo apt-get install python-lazr.restfulclient --reinstall
[16:55] <jbatista> rs0832_ yes that's what I did in the console
[16:55] <rs0832_> vlt_, try right click on panel>add to panel>indicator applet
[16:56] <jbatista> rs0832_ that --reinstall made no difference ... I've tried some 3 or 4 times
[16:56] <jbatista> rs0832_ that's why I tried irc now :s
[16:56] <rs0832_> jbatista, ok then sudo dpkg-reconfigure python-lazr.restfulclient
[16:56] <a_> big message below:
[16:56] <a_> yeah, that's my question: is you have tablet, would you like that gnome or unity for normal pcs? imagine that you can't click anything, you must touch it; will it be comfortable to use that interface? i don't think so. so why don't we make an Ubuntu version with everything in one place, big buttons, virtual keyboard and that stuff? so here's the final question: would you like to test it?
[16:57] <a_> and i don't mean "ubuntu tablet edition"
[16:57] <vlt_> rs0832_: Now I got two of them (battery, sound and email indicator).
[16:57] <rs0832_> vlt_, still no network manager?
[16:57] <hegemoOn> hell
[16:57] <hegemoOn> o
[16:58] <a_> i mean "normal ubuntu version, but with a lot of utilities, that will make it more comfortable to use
[16:58] <a_> "
[16:58] <vlt_> rs0832_: No
[16:58] <coz_> complete,   mm  you want to use grep for this  ... yes?
[16:58] <a_> he's away.
[16:58] <rs0832_> vlt_, try right click on panel>add to panel>notification area
[16:58] <a_> hegemo0n: :D
[16:58] <rs0832_> vlt_, and rightclick and remove one of the indicator applets
[16:58] <hegemoOn> what is the name of the indexing file service that runs in the bar in gnome and how to remove it ?
[16:59] <hegemoOn> and stop this service
[16:59] <rumpe1> hegemoOn, rightclick?
[16:59] <vlt_> rs0832_: When I add an(other) notification area it it empty
[16:59] <FrozenKnight> Whaoh, I'll say X/Gnome isn't stable yet... I've just recovered from a "failure". I guess drag'n'dropping 11000+ files is a bit too much for the system.
[16:59] <hegemoOn> rumpe1: yea ok :)
[16:59] <vlt_> s/it it/it is/
[17:00] <rs0832_> vlt_, hmm but your internet is running right?
[17:00] <ryan_languagelab> okay I've gotten the closest I've been using the nvidia driver. I can hear the gdm "welcome sound" but X doesn't seem to be running on my screen
[17:00] <ryan_languagelab> I set BusID in the device section.... otherwise it says "No screens found"
[17:00] <nikitis_> How do I kick someone off of my irc nickname?  I have the identify password, but someone apparently is using it
[17:01] <vlt_> rs0832_: "running"?
[17:01] <rs0832_> vlt_, working?
[17:01] <vlt_> rs0832_: Neither eth0 (LAN) nor eth1 (wifi) have an IP address.
[17:02] <vlt_> rs0832_: I wanted to use the nm-applet to add a wireless connection.
[17:02] <hegemoOn> than you rumpe1
[17:02] <rs0832_> vlt_, run nm-connection-editor in a terminal
[17:02] <ZykoticK9> nikitis_, you may want to ask in #freenode - if you don't get an answer here
[17:03] <rs0832_> vlt_, or system>preferences>network connections
[17:03] <SubstreamAI> I have 2 ubuntu computers on our personal LAN along with 3 Windows computers.  I have Samba installed and I can open the files on the Linux computer from the Windows computer (text files).  It will not let me save them, apparently I don't have permission.  The permissions are drwxrwxrwx???
[17:03] <vlt_> rs0832_: It doesn't show any available networks
[17:04] <rs0832_> vlt_, what doesnt show them?
[17:04] <vlt_> rs0832_: The nm-connection-editor tool
[17:04] <pr3zident> sooooooo lol in the middle of updating the kernel it was doing the file uploads and all that kernel update stuff someone told it was an unsupported kernel and i shouldn't do it so i closed the terminal.. is this going to mess up cpu when i shut it down and try to start it back up im scared to shut down
[17:04] <rs0832_> vlt_, yes.. it is only for creating connections
[17:05] <pr3zident> me * my *
[17:05] <vlt_> rs0832_: I just need the icon to show me the available connections. (The same `iwlist eth1 scan` would show me)
[17:06] <cdbs> pr3zident: was it downloading the kernel at that time? or installing?
[17:06] <rs0832_> vlt_, i thought you wanted to add a conn.. " I wanted to use the nm-applet to add a wireless connection"
[17:06] <pr3zident> it was installing
[17:07] <pr3zident> i had it downloaded already
[17:08] <alfred> how to create new partition
[17:08] <vlt_> rs0832_: Yes. Or rather: I want to be able to connect to wireless networks using the network icon in the upper right corner of the desktop.
[17:08] <pr3zident> i used make oldconfig
[17:08] <vlt_> alfred: cfdisk
[17:08] <rs0832_> vlt_, ah ok
[17:08] <pr3zident> make dep , then makebzImage
[17:08] <TheDeadCPU> When booting the 10.10 amd64 DVD, I get "The file system wasn't safely closed on Windows. Fixing. The disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0)." after choosing "install ubuntu"
[17:08] <alfred> vlt_, I got FATAL ERROR
[17:08] <mdpatrick> I'm running ubuntu amd64 (I have a quad core CPU), and want to get a high definition video in the MKV format to play correctly. Suggestions???????
[17:09] <TheDeadCPU> mdpatrick, VLC
[17:09] <rs0832_> alfred, did you try gparted?
[17:09] <alfred> I installed it, but I couldn t do much
[17:09] <vlt_> alfred: You need to be root, so `sudo cfdisk` should work
[17:10] <alfred> Vlt_ still the  same problem
[17:10] <subz3r0> mdpatrick, what you want is "SMPLAYER" with vdpau
[17:10] <subz3r0> google for it
[17:10] <alfred> beside I have HDD with 500GB I can see only 450GB
[17:10] <alfred> where is the rest
[17:10] <TheDeadCPU> I'll try again.
[17:10] <TheDeadCPU> When booting the 10.10 amd64 DVD, I get "The file system wasn't safely closed on Windows. Fixing. The disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0)." after choosing "install ubuntu"
[17:10] <yeats> alfred: to use gparted, you probably have to use a live CD - you don't want to partition the disk you're running on
[17:10] <vlt_> alfred: Ok, what fatal error do you get exactly?
[17:10] <rs0832_> vlt_, the notification area should have shown it... i guess you could try killing the nm-applet process (killall -9 nm-applet) and restart it.. i am not sure if it will temporarily turn of your connection though
[17:11] <pr3zident> if i restart will it brick
[17:11] <alfred> vlt_, FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 1: Partition ends in the final partial cylind
[17:11] <alfred>                           Press any key to exit cfdisk
[17:11] <vlt_> rs0832_: I have no connection currently ;-)  I'll try to restart it.
[17:11] <rs0832_> alfred, you never get the full capacity of your hard disk
[17:11] <rs0832_> vlt_, ok :)
[17:11] <mdpatrick> TheDeadCPU: I downloaded VLC, and audio doesn't play though the video appears flawless
[17:11] <alfred> rs0832_, why ?
[17:11] <alfred> 50 GB is missing
[17:11] <TheDeadCPU> mdpatrick, weird
[17:11] <alfred> I just installed it new HDD
[17:12] <vlt_> alfred: Looks like you need to use the -z option to start with an empty layout. Warning: Existing partitions will be removed (not the data itself)
[17:12] <alfred> okay
[17:13] <alfred> vlt_, Yes now I can see something
[17:13] <nit-wit> alfred, it is not missing there is just a different measurement made by the manufacturer and the actual computer, my 320 gig external is actually 298gigs
[17:13] <rs0832_> alfred, it is just the way they are made... formatting, production design, etc can reduce the usable size... in general, the bigger the hd/storage device, the more capacity you lose.. this is normal though so dont worry about it
[17:13] <vlt_> rs0832_: Do I need the "--sm-disable" part?
[17:13] <rs0832_> vlt_, yes
[17:13] <alfred> rs0832_, thanks
[17:14] <rs0832_> alfred, :)
[17:14] <alfred> rs0832_, when I create new partion. will it be primary or logical ?
[17:14] <nit-wit> rs0832_, it is the measurement
[17:14] <rs0832_> alfred, primary
[17:14] <alfred> ok
[17:14] <rs0832_> nit-wit, yes i know
[17:14] <FrozenKnight> What is the safety percentage now in ubuntu?
[17:14] <nit-wit> rs0832_, I figured you did
[17:14] <rs0832_> nit-wit, just trying to keep it simple and understandable for him:)
[17:15] <vlt_> rs0832_: "applet removed ... applet now embedded ... DEBUG: old state indicates that this was not a disconnect 0"
[17:15] <nit-wit> rs0832_, :)
[17:15] <FrozenKnight> The memory / cpu superuser percentage
[17:15] <alfred> rs0832_, I let it bootable or ?
[17:15] <vlt_> rs0832_: But no applet appeared :(
[17:15] <rs0832_> alfred, you have to set the /boot mountpoint to it
[17:15] <vlt_> alfred: You don't need the bootable flag for linux boot loaders
[17:16] <rs0832_> vlt_, hmm.. try adding it on a different panel
[17:16] <FrozenKnight> Hmm, how do I move a heap of files from subdirectories into one other directory?
[17:16] <alfred> I quite it, and back to it, I do not see any changes
[17:16] <FrozenKnight> from the commandlien
[17:16] <FrozenKnight> commandline
[17:16] <alfred> in my HDD
[17:16] <vlt_> rs0832_: I'm away for 45 minutes. Thanks for now.
[17:17] <rs0832_> vlt_, k
[17:17] <rs0832_> vlt_, try killing and restarting without the sm-disable too
[17:18] <rs0832_> alfred, you have to click the green tick mark to apply changes if you are using gparted
[17:19] <TheDeadCPU> Failed due to unknown user id (0), I get that now when I boot the dvd..
[17:19] <alfred> rs0832_, I was going to write, but I got error there is no bootable...
[17:20] <rs0832_> alfred, hmm you are using gparted right?
[17:20] <alfred> I am using that command cfdisk
[17:20] <alfred> with -z
[17:20] <Oglop> Anyone familiar with changing settings on Ubuntu Netbook 10.10?
[17:20] <rs0832_> alfred, ah k..
[17:20] <rs0832_> alfred, i have never used that so i am not sure
[17:20] <TheDeadCPU> Failed due to unknown user id (0), I get that now when I boot the dvd..
[17:21] <findeds> hi I'm newbie here
[17:21] <coz_> Oglop,  not too familiar I actually just removed natty   but what settings do you want to change?
[17:21] <Oglop> coz_: The auto hibernate turned off would be great
[17:22] <hellhound> i am having trouple with smplayer displaying any videos... it will play the audio but not video... other movie players work.. but smplayer has the dvd control interface i like
[17:22] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, do you also get an error stdin: error 0?
[17:22] <coz_> Oglop,   mm is this the one with screensaver maybe
[17:22] <TheDeadCPU> rs0832_, nope
[17:22] <coz_> Oglop,   can you open a terminal
[17:22] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, does it boot anyway?
[17:22] <TheDeadCPU> Nope
[17:22] <Oglop> coz_: Honestly I cant figure out how to access any settings features with the new 10.10
[17:22] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, stuck at that screen right?
[17:23] <TheDeadCPU> Yup.
[17:23] <njero> hey #ubuntu, I have a weird problem... my mouse is CRAZY. Without touching it, it moves to the left all the screen then all the way to the right. When I move the mouse around it has a mind of its own. This has happened with 4 mice, the touchpad, and a variety of ports... any info/advice?
[17:23] <coz_> Oglop,   ok  are you able to open a terminal
[17:23] <jihedamine> Hi. Compiz is having a lag when updating the window decorator. Is it possible to fix it ?
[17:23] <Oglop> coz_: no
[17:23] <coz_> Oglop,   does   alt+F2  work
[17:24] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, well, there are a few fixes claimed for this on the net, but none of them worked for me... so i remastered the disc, and updated plymouth and casper and that fixed it on 10.10
[17:24] <Oglop> coz_: no it does not
[17:24] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, you can try disabling the 'splash' boot option though
[17:24] <TheDeadCPU> rs0832_, Yea I heard that would work.. But it's so weird that the problem is only on one pc.
[17:24] <TheDeadCPU> rs0832_, O'rly? elaborate.
[17:24] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, yes
[17:24] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, about the splash option?
[17:24] <TheDeadCPU> Yes
[17:25] <Oglop> coz_: I just got terminal up
[17:25] <coz_> Oglop,  ok     gnome-screensaver-preferences
[17:25] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, well, some of the 'fixes' on forums, launchpad,etc.. say that disabling the splash option fixes this
[17:26] <avis> hi all
[17:26] <coz_> Oglop,  there are two tick boxes  there ... untick the second one
[17:26] <TheDeadCPU> rs0832_, now after 30minutes something about "/init: line 7: can't open /dev/sr0/ something"
[17:26] <avis> is there any way to extend the protection of apparmor to more than one the default profile covers ?
[17:26] <Christoffer> How do I upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 and then on to 10.04.1? What is the command?
[17:26] <Oglop> coz_: You are a god send my friend, thank you
[17:26] <TheDeadCPU> Then it goes to a busybox shell. rs0832_
[17:26] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, well, sounds like the same problem i had
[17:27] <Oglop> coz_: Not used to the new layout just yet.....
[17:27] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, have you tried nomodeset?
[17:27] <avis> AT&T hacks routers
[17:27] <coz_> Oleg,   might want to install  gmrun and set a keybinding for that in compiz  command plugin
[17:27] <ilovefairuz> avis: write a new profile or search for one targeting your desired app?
[17:27] <avis> cool, thanks
[17:27] <TheDeadCPU> Nope, I've never had any errors on install (as i normally use USB)
[17:27] <coz_> Oleg,  this will allow a  run dialog to open
[17:27] <Oleg> coz_, what?
[17:28] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, i think the sr0 error is definitely casper... updating it should work.. ubuntu is already installed right?
[17:28] <grpace> One short question: When I do a 'service --status-all', what do [-], [+] and [?] on the left indicate ??
[17:28] <TheDeadCPU> rs0832_, no, this is on the live DVD
[17:28] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, ah then it is casper
[17:28] <coz_> Oleg,   there is a small application named     gmrun   which will allow you to input  a command  or application and run it
[17:28] <TheDeadCPU> rs0832_, hmm.. I'll see if I can update it
[17:28] <avis> apparmor ftw
[17:28] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, even my installation works fine but the live disc gives the error
[17:28] <coz_> Oleg,  its a run dialog
[17:28] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, use uck
[17:29] <ShapeShifter499> hi!   Happy New Years Everyone            I'm looking at the "purchase" part of "Ubuntu Software Center"  and I'm wondering is "Vendetta Online"   free?  or is this an error...  Just wondering
[17:29] <Oleg> coz_, are you talking to the right person? I didn't ask anything nor talk in this channel for maybe umm... months
[17:29] <coz_> Oleg,   of you can compile  gnome-run and put it in /usr/bin  and or /usr/local/bin
[17:29] <TheDeadCPU> rs0832_, uck?
[17:29] <coz_> Oleg,   ah well  we just fixed the hybernate ..yes?
[17:29] <coz_> Oleg,  and you are getting used to the netbook interface ...yes?
[17:29] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, it gives you a kind of interface to synaptic during the process where you can just update the plymouth and casper packages
[17:29] <TheDeadCPU> rs0832_, oooo
[17:29] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, ubuntu customisation kit
[17:29] <TheDeadCPU> rs0832_, I'll try installing in Text mode first though
[17:30] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, yes sure.. good luck :)
[17:30] <alfred> what is the difference between extended partition and primary ?
[17:30] <TheDeadCPU> rs0832_, one never knows lol
[17:30] <avis> last night i could not login to my ubuntu despite being very sure i was typing the correct passowrd, i was running no outside services
[17:30] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, :)
[17:31] <Oleg> coz_, no idea what you're talking about, I'm pretty sure you have the wrong person
[17:31] <CyL> Afternoon folks... is it possible to manually mount ntfs partitions under Ubuntu without root priviledges? This is puzzling me for sometime now..
[17:31] <Oleg> there is a guy here who does use my nick at time and I ALWAYS have to ghost him
[17:31] <coz_> Oleg, yep i do apologies
[17:32] <ShapeShifter499> anyone know?
[17:32] <coz_> Oleg,  apparenlty   "oglop"  left
[17:32] <avis> it was very odd, my eth0 and eth1 diappeared, then my network-manager-gnome vanished
[17:32] <rumpe1> grpace, + started, - stopped, ? unknown
[17:32] <TheDeadCPU> rs0832_, thanks for the help though! I'm not used to asking but I didn't find anything about it :p
[17:32] <Peter_SP222> Hi!
[17:32] <trism> ShapeShifter499: looking at their site, you can download the client for free, but the game requires a subscription to play (beyond the free trial)
[17:32] <grpace> rumpel: Thank you!!
[17:33] <rs0832_> TheDeadCPU, no problem :) it worked for me (took me nearly a day to figure out) so i hope it is useful for you too :)
[17:33] <ShapeShifter499> trism, ohhhh
[17:33] <ShapeShifter499> trism, cool
[17:33] <ShapeShifter499> trism, thanks
[17:33] <Oleg> coz_, well I'm glad we figured that out
[17:33] <Oleg> happy new years though
[17:34] <ilovefairuz> Oleg: enable nick protection
[17:34] <grpace> alfred: Let's say you have a 500Gb drive, and partition it out in 5 separate 100Gb partitions.  The initial partition is the 'primary' partition, and the remaining 4 are 'extended' partitions.
[17:35] <osbonkers> hi
[17:35] <alfred> grpace, thank you, was waiting for an answer, so I just make only 1 as primary, the rest as extendd
[17:36] <dob_> how can i get the current chunk size of a software raid?
[17:37] <loorenzas> hello
[17:37] <findeds> hi
[17:37] <loorenzas> i have a problem
[17:37] <ilovefairuz> !details | loorenzas
[17:37] <ilovefairuz> hello findeds
[17:38] <grpace> alfred: Yes.  I find it useful to partition a big drive into sections, and keep related apps, data in their respective partitions (system files in 1), publishing apps in another, etc.).  Not only does it help me keep things separated and organized, it also saves quite a bit of time during backups...  You only have to backup the particular partition that has changed.
[17:38] <CyL> Afternoon folks... is it possible to manually mount ntfs partitions using ntfs-3g without root priviledges? This is puzzling me for sometime now..
[17:38] <findeds> hi ilovefairuz, I've been using Ubuntu 3 days from now. Can you give me some advise? :)
[17:39] <Oleg> ilovefairuz, I thought I did
[17:39] <ilovefairuz> !manual | findeds
[17:39] <findeds> I'm really confused in switching from Windows..
[17:39] <grpace> rumpel: Thank You again !!  Happy New Year everyone !!
[17:39] <rs0832> findeds, what confuses you ?
[17:39] <TheDeadCPU> rs0832, Text install seems to be working :D
[17:40] <findeds> Windows is BIG, a ton of applications..I switched to Linux bcoz I'd red a lot of blogs saying this is a better OS to use for programming
[17:40] <loorenzas> i installed xchat and i vant to go in room -  irc.omnitel.net - but i cant can somebody help me to configurate it?
[17:40] <findeds> sorry for the bad english, not my 1st language
[17:40] <rs0832> TheDeadCPU, k thats good :)
[17:41] <BluesKaj> findeds, programming with ?
[17:41] <rs0832> findeds, ok, and?
[17:41] <loorenzas> my english is also bed.
[17:41] <ilovefairuz> loorenzas: you're on the wrong server, this is freenode, disconnect and then: /server irc.omnitel.net
[17:42] <findeds> I'm looking for a better computer programming environment..
[17:42] <rs0832> findeds, for any language in particular?
[17:42] <ilovefairuz> findeds: learn to use the shell (bash) .. it will help a lot
[17:42] <findeds> sorry, what is shell (bash)?
[17:42] <ilovefairuz> !terminal | findeds
[17:43] <findeds> I would like to learn Python first
[17:43] <rs0832> findeds, ubuntu is great for python :)
[17:43] <rs0832> findeds, and lots of it's apps use python too
[17:44] <alfred> grpace, you are right
[17:45] <This_Guy> I'm thinking of making a script to download and install all updates, then using this script in cron. How would I go about creating the script?
[17:45] <findeds> In the Philippines, we are though Visual Basic as a kind of a big deal in programming..But as I red in a lot of site, studying it gives you a bad programming..etc
[17:45] <findeds> What can you say about that?
[17:46] <Gayana> Hi
[17:47] <findeds> @rs0832 is there any IDE that I can use for better learning of python?
[17:47] <rs0832> findeds, the language BASIC, was created to be simple, thus helping new learners to cope... some programmers feel that in trying to achieve simplicity, bad programming practices were also encouraged by the language... visualbasic is just a dialect of basic
[17:47] <P_Kable> Hi, what is a normal FPS count with glxgears ?
[17:47] <rs0832> findeds, yes...
[17:48] <rs0832> findeds, IDLE is the default python ide.. if you want something more featurefull, you can use eric ide
[17:48] <ilovefairuz> This_Guy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates
[17:48] <rs0832> findeds, both are available in the ubuntu repositories
[17:48] <hellhound> i am having trouple with smplayer displaying any videos... it will play the audio but not video... other movie players work.. but smplayer has the dvd control interface i like
[17:48] <findeds> @ubottu I often use the terminal when installing an archive file for linux..
[17:49] <This_Guy> ilovefairuz: Thanks, I'll check it out.
[17:49] <Gimbli> @P_Kable Depends on the hardware you have, the window size where the gears are displayed...
[17:49] <findeds> I've downloaded IDLE, it's really nicer than the others I've tried in Ubuntu Software Center :)
[17:49] <rs0832> findeds, ubottu is a bot :)
[17:49] <ilovefairuz> findeds: ubottu is a bot, not a real human
[17:49] <ilovefairuz> !brain > findeds
[17:49] <rs0832> findeds, thats good :)
[17:49] <findeds> @rs ah..hahaha! ok, this is my first time in IRC.hehe
[17:50] <rs0832> findeds, :) no problem
[17:50] <ilovefairuz> findeds: you can use tab for autocompleting nicks (names) on IRC
[17:50] <rs0832> findeds, see my pm
[17:50] <findeds> @ilovefairuz how?
[17:50] <ilovefairuz> findeds: type the first few letters of the name and press tab
[17:51] <findeds> ah ok! got it.tnx :)
[17:51] <rs0832> findeds, :) you'll get the hang of irc in no time with those tutorials
[17:51] <findeds> although it only shows the possible names in my case..?
[17:51] <findeds> when I press tab
[17:52] <tgies> wow upstart is still garbage, cool
[17:52] <findeds> I'm using emphaty
[17:52] <findeds> *empathy
[17:52] <This_Guy> ilovefairuz: The link is only for security updates. I'd like to be able to update common programs, as well as PPA's.
[17:54] <rs0832> i gotta go now.. happy new year, everyone!
[17:54] <bombshell> Hello
[17:54] <findeds> ilovefairuz: ah ok..when I type the first letter does not autocomplete, It must be at least twice.hehe
[17:54] <Gimbli> rs0832: a happy new year to you, too
[17:54] <bombshell> How do You disable ipv6 ? I believe that's what it is that's hindering me to associat to this wifi
[17:54] <ilovefairuz> findeds: just enough letters to get to a specific nick
[17:55] <Abhish> Ok, there was a power outage and now I can't log in. I enter my password and it just goes back to the user selection... wtf?
[17:55] <findeds> ilovefairuz: thanks :)
[17:55] <BluesKaj> findeds, @ doesn't work on irc, just type the nick
[17:55] <rumpe1> Abhish, check, if CAPS-LOCK is active
[17:55] <Abhish> rumpe1 I did, and it isn't.
[17:55] <findeds> BluesKaj: I got it, thanks :)
[17:55] <ZykoticK9> bombshell, actually IP (4 or 6) has nothing to do with associating with wifi - after it's connected it can make a difference.
[17:56] <ilovefairuz> This_Guy: it could be used for normal updates too, https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/automatic-updates.html  is a more generic guide
[17:56] <rumpe1> Abhish, well... you could try ssh... or check the logs
[17:57] <bombshell> ZykoticK9: Certain routers doesn't support ipv6 and it's a common occurence ipv6 to conflict with such routers
[17:57] <ilovefairuz> Abhish: perhaps your /etc/passwd file (that lists usernames) was ruined, i think you better get a live cd and check around your files
[17:57] <bombshell> ZykoticK9: My wife assocaites then dessocaites after it complains that ipv6 is not present
[17:57] <bombshell> hehe, wife
[17:58] <bombshell> s/wife/wifi/
[17:58] <bombshell> ipv6 router is not present*
[17:58] <ZykoticK9> bombshell, well, i have NO idea if it's even possible to disable IPv6 in modern Ubuntu... best of luck.
[17:58] <findeds> I'm confused..If Microsoft created Windows, who created Ubuntu/Linux?
[17:59] <findeds> why is it free?
[17:59] <ZykoticK9> bombshell, check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[17:59] <rumpe1> findeds, linux -> linus
[17:59] <findeds> rumpe1: why linus? isn't it linuX?
[17:59] <rumpe1> ubuntu is from shuttleworth *i guess*
[18:00] <ilovefairuz> bombshell: gksudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf ... find "disable ipv6"
[18:00] <rumpe1> findeds, linus torvalds is the creator of the first linux-kernel
[18:00] <ZykoticK9> bombshell, it seems that link doesn't cover anything after 8.04
[18:00] <rumpe1> and he is still the top head for the kernel-development
[18:00] <ilovefairuz> findeds: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:00] <This_Guy> ilovefairuz, Thanks
[18:00] <ilovefairuz> This_Guy: you're welcome
[18:01] <findeds> rumpe1: wikipedia.hehe
[18:02] <Frenk> hey can you help me out and run nmap -T4 -A -v -PE -PS22,25,80 -PA21,23,80,3389 88.198.57.242 | I want to test my new psad ans snort and check my iptables configurations on this server! Would be rly great! I dont need any reports on the scan! Thx
[18:03] <avis> is there a web of trust for PPA's ?
[18:03] <avis> 020
[18:03] <findeds> I tried 8.04 before installing 8.10, the latter one has a better setup interface :)
[18:03] <avis> leaf
[18:04] <findeds> what are you guys saying? I'm nosebleeding..
[18:04] <ilovefairuz> rumpe1: findeds: Ubuntu is built from so many Free Software components that has been developed over the years by different people. Some of the most significant parts are: the Linux kernel (core) by Linus Torvals, the GNU Userland tools by the GNU project, and the GNOME user interface by the GNOME foundation. Canonical (the company behind Ubuntu) assembles, develops, polishes, and integrates these components and many others together to buil
[18:05] <findeds> ilovefairuz: great info :)
[18:05] <alfred_lost> back I destroyed my ubuntu :D
[18:05] <rumpe1> ilovefairuz, and his name is Torval_d_s ... :P
[18:05] <alfred_lost> now back to ask questions about Disk partition
[18:06] <findeds> which is harder to create,the linux kernel or the gnome ui?
[18:06] <Frenk> +1 ti ilovefairuz
[18:06] <Frenk> for*
[18:06] <alfred_lost> I am reinstalling my ubuntu, and I want to create few partition,
[18:06] <ilovefairuz> rumpe1: my mistake, it's Linus Torvalds
[18:06] <alfred_lost> now I need to select the first partition, to make it boot
[18:07] <findeds> what do you think is harder to create, the linux kernel or the gnome ui?
[18:07] <ilovefairuz> findeds: the #ubuntu channel is for questions related to ubuntu itself,  join #ubuntu-offtopic if you would like to digress
[18:08] <avis> does 10.04.1 have problems validating corrrect passwords at GDM login ?
[18:08] <findeds> ilovefairuz: ok, I
[18:08] <avis> like -- for no reason at all, you can't login, and your sure your password is right ?
[18:08] <findeds> ilovefairuz: ok, I'll trying going to there first.tnx
[18:08] <avis> i also had issues where in NetworkManager both eth0 and eth1 disappeared.  shortly after, NetworkManager, disappeared.
[18:09] <Nowaker> hey. I got an urgent question :) do you know of any music player on ubuntu that would load whole mp3 to memory on play start? I got a slow netbook and external dmcrypted drive and I get 10-seconds pauses randomly
[18:09] <ilovefairuz> avis: is your hard disk healthy? check its SMART report
[18:09] <avis> ilovefairuz, absolutely.  all of them
[18:10] <avis> they all pass SMART
[18:11] <compdoc> avis, Ive recently installed 10.04.1 LTS, and the server version. I did a lot of figuring things out, installing software, and lots of reboots. Never had an issue loggin on
[18:11] <compdoc> Ive installed it on two different machines
[18:12] <ilovefairuz> Nowaker: you could use tmpfs to have a filesystem directory that's backed by memory, not on disk, copy your music files there and play them
[18:15] <bluefoxicy> any idea why firefox highlights everything as misspelled?
[18:15] <mdpatrick> How do I know if my package manager is installing the amd64 build of any given package (like mplayer)???
[18:15] <Nowaker> ilovefairuz: but this is gonna take some time to configure :) and as I need it right now, changing the player is only reasonable way. thanks, though
[18:15] <bluefoxicy> Study with an external private guitar teacher -> "an" and "private" are ok but the rest have a red underline
[18:15] <ilovefairuz> bluefoxicy: probably lacking the correct dictionary extension
[18:16] <xangua> mdpatrick: aree you using 64bit OS ¿
[18:16] <bluefoxicy> ilovefairuz:  on a fresh install?!
[18:16] <mdpatrick> xangua: yes
[18:16] <bluefoxicy> ilovefairuz: it suggests "studiewillug"
[18:16] <mdpatrick> xangua: It seems like sometimes the package manager is good about finding the amd64 version, but sometimes doesn't? Im just wondering how to confirm the package im about to install is the correct build :/
[18:16] <bluefoxicy> oh, ok, right click and select the language
[18:16] <bluefoxicy> that works
[18:17] <mdpatrick> Is there a command to get info about a package before I install it via aptitude?
[18:18] <Bennage> can anyone tell me why when I do 'fdisk -l', nothing comes up?
[18:18] <ilovefairuz> mdpatrick: apt-cache show packagename
[18:18] <ilovefairuz> Bennage: sudo
[18:18] <nit-wit> Bennage, use suo
[18:18] <nit-wit> Bennage, *sudo
[18:19] <Bennage> stupid question. sorry
[18:19] <Bennage> next question... (probably equally as stupid
[18:19] <nit-wit> Bennage, you will have to get in line behind me
[18:19] <AbhiJit> how to change keyboard input method inscribus?
[18:19] <Bennage> at least you nkew sudo :P
[18:19] <Bennage> you win
[18:20] <Bennage> fdisk and gparted only show 3 of the 5 disks I have plugged in
[18:20] <Bennage> I can see them in the /dev directory, but they're just not showing up
[18:21] <nit-wit> Bennage, have you used the drop down in gparted in the top right corner
[18:21] <compdoc> the disks are connected to the mobo, or a raid controller, or what?
[18:21] <nit-wit> compdoc, I thought raid as well.
[18:22] <mdpatrick> If I manually install a package, can I then use a package manager to go out and grab the dependencies I didn't install?
[18:22] <infid> my number pad sometimes stops working until i reboot. how can i fix this without rebooting?
[18:22] <shcherbak>  mdpatrick manually == source?
[18:23] <hihihi100> ki
[18:23] <Bennage> nit-wit: yeah
[18:23] <Mrcheesenips> You should be able to mdpatrick
[18:23] <mdpatrick> scherbak: wget from a packages.ubuntu.com URL
[18:23] <mdpatrick> Mrcheesenips cool how
[18:23] <AbhiJit> how to change keyboard input method in scribus?
[18:23] <AbhiJit> ctrl space is not working
[18:23] <Bennage> it only displays three drives
[18:23] <shcherbak> mdpatrick: you mean .deb file?
[18:23] <AbhiJit> i am using ibus
[18:23] <Mrcheesenips> Search through the synaptic package manager mdpatrick
[18:23] <Bennage> sda, sdb, sdc
[18:24] <nit-wit> Bennage, are any of the not showing ntfs and or hoding a MS partition a actual OS
[18:24] <xangua> !aptoncd | mdpatrick
[18:24] <nit-wit> *holding
[18:24] <tomas__> hola a todos
[18:25] <JoshDreamland> From what I can tell, Ubuntu is using an old version of GNOME that still uses Bonobo for panel applets, yes?
[18:25] <OptikKore> yeh so im installing ubuntu 10 and i just partitioned my hd's and a message popped up saying /dev/sda contains GPT signatures, blah blah blah and asks if its a GPT partition table, do i say yes or no?
[18:25] <xangua> depend of what ubuntu version you are refering JoshDreamland
[18:25] <mdpatrick> xangua: In no way was that what I needed but that's awesome and I'm writing it down, thanks.
[18:26] <_biskit_> is anyone available for a little one on one help with compiling and installing a couple of packages?
[18:26] <JoshDreamland> 10.10, xangua
[18:26] <JoshDreamland> I gather that Natty finally did something about it
[18:26] <JoshDreamland> but GNOME 3 is doing away with panels entirely
[18:26] <Mrcheesenips> _biskit_, from source?
[18:26] <_biskit_> yes
[18:26] <ilovefairuz> mdpatrick: sudo gdebi packagename.deb
[18:26] <JoshDreamland> Meaning Ubuntu is, as usual, behind the times
[18:26] <Mrcheesenips> Did it come with a readme or install instruction?
[18:27] <shcherbak> ilovefairuz: sould be gksu
[18:27] <ilovefairuz> shcherbak: nope
[18:27] <shcherbak> ilovefairuz: no? sorry then, update... done.
[18:27] <xangua> JoshDreamland: no idea what you mean, gnome 3 has not been released
[18:28] <JoshDreamland> xangua: From what I can tell, it's coming very soon
[18:28] <ilovefairuz> JoshDreamland: ubuntu (and most other distros) use only stable/released software
[18:28] <JoshDreamland> As in, before the release of Natty
[18:28] <Dr_Willis> I like panels.. they are easy to understand and work with.... :)
[18:28] <_biskit_> Mrcheesenips - yes it came with install directions - but the file folders in linux has me baffled at times - Glib - gtk are what I am after
[18:28] <JoshDreamland> Okay, the switch to Dbus was made long before Maverick's release, and I have no way of obtaining the new headers
[18:29] <ilovefairuz> JoshDreamland: and, as far as I know, ubuntu is going to use the unity inteface, instead of the gnome 3 workspace
[18:29] <JoshDreamland> Or have I missed something?
[18:29] <ilovefairuz> Dr_Willis++
[18:29] <JoshDreamland> Oh great, does that mean we'll have a Gubuntu fork?
[18:29] <Dr_Willis> I really miss the old Windowmaker warf and the apps for it.
[18:29] <ilovefairuz> JoshDreamland: what's your ubuntu support question ?
[18:30] <JoshDreamland> How can I get a header defining the macro PANEL_APPLET_OUT_PROCESS_FACTORY?
[18:30] <JoshDreamland> aside from opening Gedit and typing #define PANEL_APPLET_OUT_PROCESS_FACTORY
[18:30] <pa> hi
[18:30] <pa> how can i install xtables-addons on maverick 10.10?
[18:30] <JoshDreamland> Is there a development package that has the new headers in it?
[18:30] <AbhiJit> help
[18:31] <elb0w> What else can I use other than brasero to burn images?
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> JoshDreamland:  if you are trying to compile a newer version of an app in the repos. you can use the 'sudo apt-get build-dep PACKAGE' command to install all needed deps. Normally.
[18:31] <pa> it provides a tar.bz2 file into /usr/src, which i tried to extract and generates modules/xtables-addons. but then im stuck
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> elb0w:  theres several in the repos. I like k3b.
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> !burn | elb0w
[18:31] <Bennage> nit-wit: they are all blank
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> elb0w:  gtoaster is popular also
[18:32] <JoshDreamland> Dr_Willis: Ubuntu's GNOME headers are out of date. Even in the repos.
[18:32] <Bennage> nit-wit: one ofthem has a buggered partition table after interrupting the disk being zeroed
[18:32] <sevenseeker> howdy, I have a Dell Studio 1747 with Ubuntu 10.10, but I have no sound on the built in speakers.  However, I do have sound with headphones.  Googling for a number of hours, I found that the information was about drivers and no sound at all, or ironically about built in speakers working but no headphone sound.
[18:32] <elb0w> Dr_Willis++
[18:33] <ilovefairuz> JoshDreamland: is that a GNOME 3 macro?
[18:33] <bluezone> sevenseeker, try aplay -l
[18:33] <sevenseeker> I have found many references to the numerous possible areas of volume and device control and all are non-muted, and I have (I believe) tried every combo of choices.
[18:34] <ManateeLazyCat> How to disable TouchPad, i have try gsynaptics, but looks can't work, always enable after some time.
[18:34] <bluezone> sevenseeker, and paste bin it or something
[18:34] <Bennage> nit-wit: which is why I wanted to use gparted in the first place, but for some reason it's now not showing another disk, which I've not even touched.
[18:34] <JoshDreamland> ilovefairuz: No.
[18:34] <nit-wit> Bennage, have you tried a bootable partitioner like gparted alone or partedmagic there are a bunch
[18:34] <ManateeLazyCat> I hate TouchPad, always move cursor position when i typing.
[18:34] <sevenseeker> aplay -l yields http://paste.pocoo.org/show/312554/
[18:34] <ManateeLazyCat> Any simple way to disable TouchPad?
[18:34] <hx> ubuntu
[18:34] <nit-wit> Bennage, might just need a reboot you never know
[18:34] <ManateeLazyCat> I use ThinkPad E40 0578-A64
[18:34] <infid> my number pad sometimes stops working until i reboot. how can i fix this without rebooting?
[18:34] <Bennage> i'm just using a copy of ubuntu NBR live cd right now
[18:34] <JoshDreamland> It is an update to PANEL_APPLET_BONOBO_FACTORY that all the current GNOME panels use
[18:34] <chiques> Anyone know of a way to add timestamp on to minicom?
[18:35] <JoshDreamland> Applets*
[18:35] <bluezone> sevenseeker, your plugged in to HDMI?
[18:35] <nit-wit> Bennage, which release
[18:35] <Bennage> 9.10 i think
[18:35] <ilovefairuz> JoshDreamland: in what GNOME release?
[18:35] <sevenseeker> not plugged into anything, the headsets work on either input, but no sound on the built in speakers
[18:35] <JoshDreamland> Let me check
[18:36] <elb0w> Dr_Willis, lol I installed k3d opposed to k3b
[18:36] <elb0w> was like wtf, this isnt a cd burner
[18:36] <bluezone> sevenseeker, :O give me a second
[18:36] <nit-wit> Bennage, I would try a Maverick or so or get the live partion cd or thumb. Sometimes the booted gparted cd works better
[18:36] <Bennage> i'm digging out my copy of gparted standalone now
[18:37] <bluezone> sevenseeker, i think for some reason it is outputting to card 1 and not card 0
[18:37] <sevenseeker> bluezone, sure thing :)
[18:37] <compdoc> does ubuntu use a default security setup? It doesnt seem to use selinux, for instance
[18:38] <bluezone> sevenseeker, i'm no ubuntu pro but that's what i think is happening and i don't recall how to set the default one, sec
[18:38] <ilovefairuz> !apparmor | compdoc
[18:38] <compdoc> thanks
[18:38] <nit-wit> Bennage, are you familiar with Hirens a good multi tool bootable cd. http://www.hirensbootcd.org/download.html
[18:38] <Bennage> never heard of it
[18:39]  * Bennage downloads
[18:39] <Bennage> wait, i think I have heard of this
[18:40] <Bennage> might even have it somewhere
[18:40] <JoshDreamland> bah, the only results for it are from all the repositories of code that made the switch
[18:40] <bluezone> sevenseeker, i had a similar issue yesterday where i couldnt set my usb soundcard as default
[18:40] <bluezone> sevenseeker, still trying to figure out how :S
[18:41] <pa> can someone tell me how to install xtable-addons-source
[18:41] <bluezone> Does anyone know how to set a default device with aplay for sound output?
[18:41] <ilovefairuz> JoshDreamland: perhaps you should ask in a GNOME development channel? the very least you should know before coding is the release version of the API you're trying to use
[18:42] <JoshDreamland> All I can see ilovefairuz, is that it was around May
[18:42] <bluezone> pa, i would assume apt-get install 'that'
[18:42] <phoenix_firebrd> happy new year
[18:42] <JoshDreamland> ilovefairuz: I'm signed in to irc.gnome.org
[18:42] <Lala_Chersi> hi there can some one tell me how to run my pasport on ubuntu 10.10
[18:42] <banjo597> Hey guys
[18:43] <sevenseeker> bluezone, that reminds me... here is tail of my /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf:  http://paste.pocoo.org/show/312557/
[18:43] <pa> bluezon, it creates a tar.bz2 in /usr/src
[18:43] <pa> i untarred, but then i dont know how to compile the module
[18:43] <System_Default_0> Hi, I'm having an issue with this:  firmware-b43legacy-installer
[18:44] <System_Default_0> When I'm trying to install something an error appears saying something like subinst post script returned exit code 1.
[18:44] <System_Default_0> I'm using Ubuntu 10.10 and I don't know what to do. Help me, please.
[18:44] <bluezone> sevenseeker, :O
[18:44] <Dr_Willis> System_Default_0:  so the normal sta and b43 drivers dont work eh?
[18:44] <JoshDreamland> ilovefairuz: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/AppletsDbusMigration
[18:45] <System_Default_0> Dr_Willis: Exactly
[18:45] <banjo597> hey guys anyone know how to create usb drivers
[18:45] <shcherbak> pa: in source directory ./configure
[18:45] <chiques> banjo597, writing drivers is pretty involved. What are you looking to do?
[18:46] <Dr_Willis> banjo597:  clarify what you are wanting to do exactly.
[18:46] <ilovefairuz> JoshDreamland: i've been to this, and still no release version specified, even in the related bug
[18:46] <shcherbak> pa: also read README or INSTALL files.
[18:46] <pa> shcherbak, the thing is there's no configure
[18:46] <JoshDreamland> Welcome to FOSS, I suppose.
[18:46] <Lala_Chersi> how to access files on passport drive .... it is not prompting for password
[18:47] <pa> and i read the README , it says to use either make (tried, doesnt work, says no rule to make some target) or make-kpkg
[18:47] <pa> also tried
[18:47] <System_Default_0> Dr_Willis: What's the solution for this issue?
[18:47] <pa> it ends with some error in the end
[18:47] <pa> and no .deb is created
[18:48] <shcherbak> pa: what thing is it? What executables does it have?
[18:48] <Maahes> um, anyone know how to use the aptitude ncurses program? I'm trying to sort packages by their current state flag, but after reading the manual I still am not sure how to go about this (Yes I have to use the ncurses program, I lost X)
[18:49] <bluezone> sevenseeker, yeah thats it, you have to modify that i soppose
[18:50] <nirazio> !antivirus
[18:50] <sevenseeker> bluezone, I added the two alias lines recently (from a couple of google posts) and the last two lines were added longer ago with 10.04 to ironically get the headphones to work while the built in speakers worked great
[18:50] <pa> shcherbak, it is a kernel module
[18:50] <bluezone> sevenseeker, haha
[18:50] <System_Default_0> Aaarrgghh!! This is so frustating. Ubuntu 10.10 LTB
[18:50] <System_Default_0> Long Time Bug
[18:50] <pa> for some additional iptables extensions
[18:50] <pa> or targets
[18:51] <bluezone> sevenseeker, so everything is fine now?
[18:51] <Maahes> 10.10 isn't an LTS release
[18:51] <Gartral> System_Default_0, Long Time Bug?
[18:51] <BLZbubba> can everyone who uses flash in their browser please vote for this: https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-1152
[18:51] <sevenseeker> bluezone, sadly no; whether with those alias lines or not
[18:52] <Maahes> System_Default_0: exit code 1 just means it failed, look in syslog, dmesg, or dpkg logs to find out why
[18:52] <bluezone> sevenseeker, humm
[18:52] <sevenseeker> bluezone, taking sound for granted I can't remember the last time I used it, so can't really say "a recent kernel (or other) update caused it" :(
[18:53] <Amacidia_> Can someone help me in installing torrentflux on an ubuntu 10.04 server ? I've ran apt-get install torrentflux and setup mysql ect. Now when I go to http://server/torrentflux I get a 404 not found error.
[18:53] <Amacidia_> I've also restarted apache
[18:54] <goddard> has anyone documented setting up a newsletter server in a book or online tutorial?
[18:54] <Maahes> not to ask a stupid question, but you made those dirs, and made a user for them, and set their perms ja?
[18:55] <Maahes> or at least made sure the torrent flux package did so if you shouldn't have to
[18:55] <System_Default_0> Maahes: I know but I didn't find any solutions to this issue.
[18:55] <BISMAY> happy new year to everybody
[18:55] <ubuntu_> hi
[18:55] <BISMAY> :)
[18:55] <otzi> hello. I've seen bugs like this being open in debian: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=566076 what's the reason for switching from links to w3m?
[18:55] <bluezone> sevenseeker, can you send me your updated alsa-base.conf?
[18:55] <Maahes> System_Default_0: have you found anything other than "exit status 1"?
[18:55] <BISMAY> rs0832:hii
[18:55] <bluezone> sevenseeker, because this doesn't make any sense now that i think about it lol
[18:56] <ubuntu_> how can I start lxde from the console? (I used telinit 1 first, and now I wanna come back to LXDE again, but if I issue "startx" it goes directly to gnome, which I wanna avoid)
[18:56] <System_Default_0> BISMAY: Happy new year to you too.
[18:56] <Maahes> System_Default_0: also, what kind of ubuntu install are you using
[18:56] <MrUnagi> how do you open an application remotely?
[18:56] <BISMAY> rs0832:may i ask aquestion?
[18:56] <goddard> has anyone documented setting up a newsletter server in a book or online tutorial?
[18:56] <Maahes> ubuntu_: if you're using gdm sudo service gdm restart then select lxde
[18:56] <MrUnagi> when i do it in an ssh session, it complains that there is no X server, which tells me it is trying to open on this side
[18:56] <markfletcher> anyone here using a ppc mac right now?
[18:57] <Maahes> goddard: I'd recommend just learning how to set up wordpress
[18:57] <sevenseeker> bluezone :) I am wearing a hole in my head from scratching it, lol.  Here is the whole file.  While it has the two bottom alias's still, I noticed no difference with or without their presence.  http://paste.pocoo.org/show/312571/
[18:57] <markfletcher> just wondering if anyone is running ubuntu on ppc...
[18:57] <Maahes> markfletcher: only if they're running an old version
[18:57] <System_Default_0> Maahes: You meant how did I install it?
[18:57] <Maahes> ubuntu no longer puts out ppc kernels
[18:58] <wizardslovak> hello people
[18:58] <Maahes> System_Default_0: Your system yes, more specifically: Is it a liveusb?
[18:58] <Amacidia_> anyone around using torrentflux ?
[18:58] <ubuntu_> Maahes: Maahes why doesn't ubuntu put out ppc kernels anymore
[18:58] <wizardslovak> is anyone of you using asus mobo with hdmi?
[18:58] <wizardslovak> i cant make hdmi audio to work :(
[18:58] <Amacidia_> need some help with getting this running on my box at home.
[18:58] <erik_> hello
[18:58] <Maahes> ubuntu_: *shrugs* too much work for little gain on a dying processor.
[18:58] <goddard> has anyone documented setting up a newsletter server in a book or online tutorial?
[18:59] <System_Default_0> Maahes: I installed it from a CD. I downloaded the Iso.
[18:59] <erik_> I'm having issues with installing the sun jre on Kubuntu 10.04... can anyone help?
[18:59] <bluezone> sevenseeker, any idea what we would need to change the index to ? lol
[18:59] <BISMAY> can any body tell me if i can install ubuntu 64 bit using wubi??
[18:59] <Maahes> goddard: you want a CMS software, easiest to learn is probably wordpress
[18:59] <ubuntu_> Maahes: I tried the "service" thing, but it doesn't work with lxde
[18:59] <BISMAY> in windows 7 32 bit
[18:59] <Maahes> System_Default_0: so it's a normal desktop install
[18:59] <System_Default_0> Maahes: Yeah.
[18:59] <MrUnagi> how do i open settings through ssh?
[18:59] <ubuntu_> Maahes: I would just want to be able to come back to x-windows as I was before issuing telinit 1, but without having to restart my system
[19:00] <erik_> anyone?
[19:00] <Maahes> ubuntu_: I didn't say sudo service lxde restart, I said gdm, you then choose the lxde session afterward.
[19:00] <edbian> MrUnagi: Settings for what?
[19:00] <MrUnagi> edbian: system settings
[19:00] <ubuntu_> Maahes: I issued as you said: service gdm restart, but it doesn't work
[19:00] <ubuntu_> Maahes: it says "unknown instance"
[19:00] <Maahes> ubuntu_: do you have gdm installed?
[19:00] <Maahes> oh!
[19:00] <jon8> is there a way to display "line numbers" in NANO?
[19:01] <nirazio> how to update clamav antivirus engine?
[19:01] <Maahes> sudo service gdm star
[19:01] <Maahes> t
[19:01] <sevenseeker> I am not sure at all really, but I 'think' the "aplay -l" output reveals the intel audio is 0 (and the HDMI is 3) and from my googling seems to suggest that is good
[19:01] <ubuntu_> Maahes: If I hadn't , would I be able to function with lxde as I normally do? :S
[19:01] <compdoc> freshclam updates the databases
[19:01] <edbian> MrUnagi: You can modify the various files in /etc using nano over an ssh connection
[19:01] <sevenseeker> oops, bluezone ^^^
[19:01] <ubuntu_> Maahes: I guess I have, since if I issue "gdm" from the command line, it complains: "Couldn't connect to system bus...blahblah"
[19:01] <bluezone> sevenseeker, hummmm
[19:02] <MrUnagi> edbian: i am viewing the screen remotely, but the resolution is too high, and i cannot access any of the applications, so i am trying to launch settings so that i can change the resolution
[19:02] <deww> jon8: alt-C does something similar, not exactly what you wanted tho
[19:02] <jon8> yeah
[19:02] <jon8> taht just tells me the line i'm on
[19:02] <Maahes> System_Default_0: you might use synaptic to look at the files it installs, and the packages it depends on, this may be a dependency issue, you might also try grabbing a newer version from a ppa or natty if you can
[19:02] <jon8> i guess thats better than nothing really..
[19:02] <Maahes> ubuntu_: did you try service gdm start?
[19:02] <jon8> but having a column on the left of the editor displaying what every line number is
[19:02] <Maahes> if that doesn't work try reload
[19:03] <jon8> i just got auto syntax highlighting enabled, auto indent enabled
[19:03] <jon8> so having a line count would be about the last thing ;(
[19:03] <Maahes> I removed nano so I can't help
[19:03] <jon8> why?!
[19:03] <Maahes> I use vim
[19:03] <jon8> nano > vim
[19:03] <jon8> i can't stand vim
[19:03] <jon8> well i guess my problem with vim is, i can't even use it
[19:03] <edbian> MrUnagi: What program are you using to view the screen remotely?
[19:04] <MrUnagi> logmein or teamviewer depending
[19:04] <Maahes> no it doesn't, really, honestly, and truely, once you learn vim's input system, its far more powerful, flexible, and efficient. And this is coming from someone who failed at learning vim twice.
[19:04] <judgepg_> Hi Folks, what's the recommended method for backing up one USB to another (of equal size)?  Will the dd command do the best job here?
[19:04] <MrUnagi> but ubuntu is in a virtual machine
[19:04] <bluezone> sevenseeker, out of curiosity what happens when you change the value at the last line to enable_msi=999
[19:04] <jon8> Maahes hmm..
[19:04] <MrUnagi> edbian: ^
[19:05] <Frenk> what kind of hash is that: 	BAh7BiISODguMTk4LjU3LjI0MmkH
[19:05] <Maahes> judgepg_: I would say "it should" but I'm not sure about boot sectors
[19:05] <Maahes> if you're trying to duplicate bootable usb's
[19:05] <Maahes> if not, use rsync
[19:05] <System_Default_0> Maahes: Ok, Thanks.
[19:05] <edbian> MrUnagi: There is a name for the resolution settings dialog.  Something like... gnome-settings-manager  or something.  You can use x forwarding and call this at the shell.  What is the purpose of the remote machine?
[19:06] <bluezone> sevenseeker, since thats the only place i see your device 0 mentioned
[19:06] <judgepg_> Maahes: Yes, i'm trying to duplicate bootable usb's.  I think dd is copies the actual bytes
[19:06] <plc90210> i have an internet connection on my laptop yet firefox isn't working, anyone have any idea why that may be?
[19:06] <System_Default_0> Ok, tganks to all. And happy new year. Bye.
[19:06] <sevenseeker> bluezone, heh, ok, I believe I have to reboot and not just climb the dependencies for snd-hda-intel and reload the mods
[19:07] <sevenseeker> bluezone, brb
[19:07] <Maahes> judgepg_: well it doesn't take that long, and you'll know after one try :)
[19:07] <MrUnagi> edbian: right now, remote backup
[19:07] <Maahes> and I'm pretty sure it will work
[19:07] <judgepg_> Maahes: good point brother :)
[19:07] <Maahes> just dd is easy to screw up with
[19:08] <edbian> MrUnagi: Than I suggest you just learn the bash command and administor your system entirely cli (it's not as hard as it sounds).  In fact, it's probably easier than figuring out how to change the resolution remotely
[19:08] <AnxiousNut> Anyone else facing launchpad 404 not found when updating?
[19:08] <joeyeye> can someone help with a grub2 winxp flashing cursor no boot situation ... ?
[19:10] <sevenseeker> bluezone :( no joy
[19:10] <bluezone> sevenseeker, fml lol
[19:11] <bluezone> sevenseeker, okay i have an idea
[19:11] <bluezone> sevenseeker, damnit i lost the command
[19:11] <XiaolinDraconis> can someone tell me whats going wrong? i installed grub2 on a usb stick and then dropped in tiny core linux and made a grub.cfg with proper menu entry. first time i did this it worked just fine then i reformatted drive and tried again and its failing
[19:12] <sevenseeker> bluezone: heh, I hear you there as well
[19:14] <Gartral> I can't sync with ubuntu-one, i've tried reinstalling but that didnt help at all
[19:15] <bluezone> sevenseeker, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/269027
[19:15] <GeekSquid> XiaolinDraconis: follow every step as you did before... more help in #grub (tiny core linux is not supported here) this is ubuntu
[19:15] <bluezone> sevenseeker, found it! lol
[19:15] <sevenseeker> bluezone, woah! great searching :)
[19:15] <bluezone> sevenseeker, hehe yeah
[19:15] <GeekSquid> Gartral: have you tried with another machine (what release?)
[19:16] <neneenen> can someone point me to the most up to date tutorial on how to setup/install the grub graphical boot menu?
[19:16] <XiaolinDraconis> GeekSquid, i am pretty positive i did follow the same steps. i know im off topic sry about that. this room is the most friendly ive been to. and if there were a lot of people talking i wouldnt have asked
[19:16] <nirazio> Is Unity a Desktop Environment?
[19:17] <XiaolinDraconis> i think its a compiz plugin
[19:17] <neneenen> its goint to be nirazio
[19:17] <XiaolinDraconis> not sure but from the little i read thats what i got
[19:17] <GeekSquid> nirazio: Unity is the "new" DE for UNR .. and will be the default desktop in 11.04
[19:17] <neneenen> nirazio, http://unity.ubuntu.com/about/
[19:18] <Maahes> nirazio: no its an interface. The "DE" is the interface + program suite + UI frame work + HIG
[19:18] <hash_> hi
[19:19] <XiaolinDraconis> hmmm somethings not right.... i dont know what i did... everytime i start firefox i have to unlock a keyring
[19:19] <hash_> #jakarta
[19:19] <GeekSquid> !id | hash_
[19:19] <neneenen> Maahes, DE = desktop environment
[19:19] <Guest67051> ubuntu rox!!!
[19:20] <neneenen> i hope there is going to be  away inside unity to switch back to gnome from unity
[19:20] <neneenen> im not fond of the unity DE
[19:20] <PerSeL> Hello can anyone help me with google earth, I downloaded one from google website and installed but when I start it nothing shows
[19:20] <jtaylor13> Can someone help me.I tried to add this server --   irc.gamers-irc.org  and i get error i spelled it wrong.It is spelled correctly.
[19:20] <XiaolinDraconis> yes gnome will still be there
[19:20] <nirazio> GeekSquid: what is UNR??
[19:20] <Maahes> neneenen: yes. Your total environment is defined by the suite and interaction metaphor of the whole system. That includes a UI Framework (of which Unity is a part of) and Human Interface guidelines (which is applied to a suite of common packages)
[19:20] <XiaolinDraconis> you will have to start the gnome-panel yourself
[19:21] <Maahes> neneenen: Unity runs on top of gnome, it is not a new DE
[19:21] <GeekSquid> nirazio: ubuntu netbook remix ... origionally developed for the netbooks starting with 9.04
[19:21] <thebigkick> anyone use utorrent?
[19:21] <Maahes> It's as simple as removing 1 package.
[19:21] <geeknik> thebigkick: I do.
[19:21] <thebigkick> with Wine?
[19:21] <neneenen> thebigkick, no, utorrent isnt FLOSS nor is it on linux
[19:21] <nirazio> So can conform it?UNITY is a DE or it's an interface??
[19:21] <thebigkick> FLOSS?
[19:22] <geeknik> thebigkick: never used it with Wine, sorry.
[19:22] <nirazio> So can anyone conform it?UNITY is a DE or it's an interface??
[19:22] <Maahes> nirazio: it's 1 program, it is not a DE.
[19:22] <GeekSquid> thebigkick: uh, why? ... linux native torrent clients are a dime a dozen
[19:22] <thebigkick> just cuz i'm used to it.  guess i'll stick with transmission
[19:22] <PerSeL> E: Unable to locate packageearth
[19:23] <neneenen> thebigkick, https://duckduckgo.com/Free_and_open_source_software
[19:23] <geeknik> thebigkick: floss = free/libre and open source software.
[19:23] <Maahes> lxde? gnome? CDE? kde? etc. they're all suites around common user interaction metaphors and programs, and underlying architecture to make them work. Calling Unity a DE would be like saying you installed a new DE on windows when you installed Launchy.
[19:23] <neneenen> thebigkick, there is a utorrent alt for linux, its called qtorrent
[19:23] <nirazio> Maahes: What is HIG?
[19:24] <Maahes> thebigkick: I recommend rtorrent with the web ui
[19:24] <Maahes> nirazio: human interface guidelines
[19:25] <thebigkick> thanks neen
[19:25] <Maahes> For more fun, wiki desktop metaphor or document metaphor and search from there.
[19:26] <JesusFreak316> Howvwould one set up always to detect a MIDI keyboard controller? I've been trying for a while but I just can't get anything to receive input.
[19:27] <Maahes> so yeah, unity is no more a new DE than using a new window manager is. You can in fact run gnome under kwin and vice versa, it does not suddenly make gnome into kde or kde into gnome
[19:28] <neneenen> Maahes, so why use unity instead of gnome?
[19:28] <philthy> has anyone seen those System76 laptops that ship with ubuntu?
[19:28] <neneenen> arnt we reinventing the wheel
[19:29] <samantha-> is there an ubuntu netinst image somewhere? or is my only choice the full cd image?
[19:29] <JesusFreak316> Crap, alsa not always.
[19:29] <Flannel> !minimal | samantha-
[19:29] <samantha-> ty Flannel
[19:29] <szaboi> cw=Z]PlO4Pm=,
[19:30] <GeekSquid> JesusFreak316: do you have libportmidi0 installed? there may be a few others, but that is the main one for Real-time midi
[19:30] <brian__> has anyone had problems forwarding x11 apps to 10.04 x86_64 that use java?
[19:31] <JesusFreak316> I do. I'm actually running Ubuntu studio.
[19:32] <soumya> hi guys
[19:32] <Maahes> neneenen: unity is on top of gnome
[19:32] <soumya> my HDMI is not working in ubuntu 10.19
[19:32] <soumya> 10.10
[19:32] <Guest61788> !ot soumya
[19:32] <Guest61788> ;(
[19:32] <soumya> Guest61788, ??
[19:32] <FreezingCold_> How do I run ZNC as nobody?
[19:32] <Maahes> the alternative to the unity package (which just a new interface, a replacement or the menu basically), is gnome-shell
[19:32] <Maahes> or as in my case: not using either
[19:33] <GeekSquid> JesusFreak316: better to ask your question in #ubuntustudio , as ubuntu studio is not officially supported here
[19:33] <Maahes> unity is just a launcher for people who haven't discovered gnome-do/kupfer/launchy/etc.
[19:34] <JesusFreak316> Ok. I thought that might be the case but I figured it was a rather generic question that applied to both.
[19:34] <neneenen> Maahes, right, but why not just use gnome shell
[19:35] <brian__> has anyone had problems forwarding x11 apps to 10.04 x86_64 that use java?  i get nothing but a blank app
[19:35] <Flannel> GeekSquid: Ubuntu studio is officially supported here.  But JesusFreak316, you might get a better response in #ubuntustudio anyway
[19:35] <trojan_spike> can any1 suggest a good calendar sort of thing?? Fill able with 'things to do' appoints etcetc,, ty in advance
[19:36] <Maahes> neneenen: if you want to you can, ubuntu disagrees with how gnome-shell works, and created unity
[19:36] <JesusFreak316> Thanks flannel. I'll ask there too.
[19:36] <Maahes> they both have different ideas of how user interaction should work
[19:36] <Maahes> I think they're both stupid
[19:36] <GeekSquid> Flannel:  when did that change? ... I thought it was considered a derivative version - there really needs to be an IRC helpers news page
[19:37] <Phong_> hey guys, why i install warcraft 3 with wine and when i do 'wine pathtowc3/war3.exe'  it tell me cd not found..but ih ave cd in it
[19:37] <Phong_> weird
[19:37] <Phong_> any help?
[19:38] <lwizardl> hi
[19:38] <GeekSquid> !winehq | Phong_
[19:38] <Maahes> Phong_: ##winehq or #winehq I forget
[19:39] <Maahes> oh duh
[19:39] <Maahes> I don't read well
[19:39] <lwizardl> whats the trick to have hibernation work on laptops ?
[19:39] <patrik> wtf
[19:39] <Maahes> lwizardl: have a laptop who's firmware plays nice with linux, usually.
[19:39] <GeekSquid> lwizardl: I seem to find that suspend works better, but not all laptops can
[19:39] <Flannel> GeekSquid: Ubuntu Studio is an officially recognized derivative... since... 9.04 I think.
[19:39] <Maahes> if not: loads of hacking which may be specific to your laptop
[19:40] <GeekSquid> Flannel: thanks
[19:40] <lwizardl> well its works when its not left in sleep for a long time. its an asus k52f
[19:42] <o_> Hello every body !
[19:42] <o_> Bonne année !
[19:42] <JeopardySholdenK> Hello
[19:42] <o_> Salut
[19:42] <o_> Bonne année !
[19:42] <o_> ^^
[19:44] <skooz> new install having some hiccups logging in ,restarting,
[19:44] <GeekSquid> !details | skooz
[19:47] <skooz> Ubuntu 10.10 try to log in cant select other manually enter user name and pw lets me in most of the time. click restart or shutdown will not finish
[19:49] <nirazio> Is it possible to have the actual MySql database installed on Windows and access it from Ubuntu 10.10 on the local network?
[19:50] <GeekSquid> nirazio: yes, you will need to allow access to the mysql server from the ubuntu machine using windows firewall
[19:53] <soumya> guys i resolved the HDMI issue.. but i have to choose the audio output manually from the sound option..
[19:53] <soumya> do i have to do it each time i connect my laptop to my TV
[19:55] <plc90210> can someone please help me troubleshoot firefox? I have a wireless connection, but firefox isn't working
[19:56] <centHOGG> plc90210: has it worked before?
[19:56] <plc90210> it worked when i had a wired connection
[19:56] <centHOGG> ok
[19:56] <GeekSquid> Guest92726: Warning you are running your IRC client as Root... DANGER DANGER Will Robinson, running internet application as root is a major security vulnerability
[19:57] <centHOGG> plc90210: pleez describe further :)
[19:57] <KM0201> GeekSquid: it's amazing people still need to be told that.
[19:57] <trojanking_> how do i install mass mailing software
[19:58] <GeekSquid> KM0201: tee hee
[19:58] <plc90210> well, when i open it, it shows the home ubuntu page like it should, but when i type in another website address, it says 'server can not be found'
[19:58] <skooz> 10.10 install  have trouble logging in . one time just type in my pw. next time have to select another and type in user name and pw then maybe next it will work the other way
[19:58] <KM0201> plc90210: the "homepage".. is likely locally hosted.. is the URL something like file://
[19:58] <centHOGG> plc90210: ok... pm me
[19:58] <Maahes> yeah, I think I hosed my system again
[19:58] <soumya> any help guys
[19:58] <Maahes> its so very easy to hose USB installs.
[19:58] <plc90210> KM0201: the url is 'about:home'
[19:59] <KM0201> Maahes: yeah..
[19:59] <KM0201> plc90210: there you go.. it's locally hosted... your connection is not working.. are you still working on the wireless
[19:59] <Maahes> KM0201: I found 3 new packages I have to pin
[19:59] <Gimbli> plc90210: this url will open a page already located on your harddrive
[19:59] <Maahes> -_-
[19:59] <Maahes> there should be a guide of "packages that will hose a usb system"
[19:59] <Gimbli> plc90210: did you try to ping any outside server or can you reach for example your wireless router?
[20:00] <plc90210> KM0201: yeah i'm still working on the wireless, it was working fine when i had the wired connection
[20:00] <plc90210> Gimbli: i don't know my router's ip
[20:00] <KM0201> plc90210: i thought you said your wired connection didn't work?
[20:00] <plc90210> it does now
[20:00] <KM0201> plc90210: ok...
[20:00] <plc90210> lol yeah strange, i know...
[20:00] <KM0201> plc90210: can you ping another PC on your network.
[20:01] <sl33k_> i forgot the command to block a domain name, something like gksudo gedit .. ? what is it?
[20:01] <KM0201> plc90210: in other words.. whats the IP of the pc you're on now... try to ping it from your laptop
[20:01] <GeekSquid> plc90210: usually 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1
[20:01] <KM0201> that'll work to.
[20:02] <plc90210> i can't ping 192.168.1.1
[20:02] <KM0201> plc90210: then it's *very* likely you're not hooked up to the router.
[20:02] <Gimbli> plc90210: try <ifconfig> to find out whether you got an ip in your wireless network
[20:04] <plc90210> i tried ifconfig and it gave me a few lines each for eth0, eth1, and lo
[20:05] <KM0201> plc90210: you don't see wlan0 ?
[20:05] <plc90210> no
[20:05] <Gimbli> plc90210: has there been an "inet address" displayed on the devices eth0 or eth1?
[20:05] <KM0201> plc90210: then your wireless definitely isn't working.... do you see yur IP in any of those paragraphs?
[20:05] <GeekSquid> KM0201: occasionally a wireless card will show up as an eth1
[20:05] <KM0201> GeekSquid: really?.. never saw that one
[20:06] <GeekSquid> KM0201: kinda surprised me too, but it does happen with some models
[20:07] <GeekSquid> KM0201: plc90210: I'd like to see a pastebin of what you've got in ifconfig, but if you have no net on the machine that would be difficult
[20:07] <intick> hey could you help me i would like to convert WAV to MP3
[20:07] <KM0201> intick: i believe audacity should do that for you no prob
[20:07] <GeekSquid> intick: install sound converter
[20:07] <KM0201> GeekSquid: yeah.. forgot about that
[20:08] <plc90210> on eth0, there's a inet6 address, and on eth1, there's a inet address and an inet6 address
[20:08] <intick> ah yes in addition i use it to modify my mp3 songs ^^
[20:08] <KM0201> ohhhh sound converter, i always forget that
[20:08] <intick> thx KM0201
[20:08] <nit-wit> GeekSquid, +1 sound converter
[20:08] <GimbliAFK> plc90210: which addresses are on eth1
[20:08] <acovrig> how do I get aspx? I have looked everywhere and can't find it and its driving me nuts
[20:08] <GeekSquid> plc90210: what are those addresses
[20:08] <Dr_Willis> acovrig:  whats aspx supposed to be? dosent sound familer.
[20:09] <KM0201> !info audacity
[20:09] <szaboi> well if plc90210 can write here.. i dont think he has a layer 3 or lower problem :(
[20:09] <GeekSquid> acovrig: aspx is ASP Dot Net 2.0 ... usually tied to a C# file.... these are windows hosted applications
[20:09] <KM0201> szaboi: hes' on a different machine
[20:09] <szaboi> ok sry :)
[20:09] <plc90210> szaboi: this is my other laptop
[20:09] <szaboi> happy new year :D
[20:10] <acovrig> Dr_Willis: it is used to install apache modules, I need to stream video, I have tried QuickTimeStreaming Server with no luck (I can't hint the mp4 files); so I am trying to get mod_flvx in apache2
[20:10] <KM0201> plc90210: did you get that info GeekSquid asked for?
[20:10] <acovrig> Dr_Willis,GeekSquid : oops, its apxs
[20:11] <plc90210> Km0201: yeah but they're kind of long, should i post them on here?
[20:11] <KM0201> plc90210: just need the numbers.. if you have them.
[20:11] <KM0201> plc90210: do any of them show a number ike 192.168.x.x ?
[20:11] <plc90210> yes
[20:11] <KM0201> plc90210: which one?
[20:11] <plc90210> the inet addr under eth1
[20:12] <KM0201> hmm
[20:12] <intick> GeekSquid: i've installed it but it does convert to OGG and wav but not to MP3 : (
[20:12] <GeekSquid> acovrig: you might want to ask your question in #apache
[20:13] <GeekSquid> intick: you need to have the codecs installed ... probably gstreamer
[20:13] <centHOGG> flac
[20:13] <plc90210> i did a google search and found something about wireless cards... could that be relevant to my problem?
[20:13] <KM0201> plc90210: i guess it's possible.. link?
[20:13] <KM0201> plc90210: and just to be clear, is your device still seeing networks, or is it now not working?
[20:14] <intick> GeekSquid: yess there was a link to help with mp3 installationg i got it working now thx a lot dude : )
[20:14] <plc90210> KM0201: it's still seeing networks, it's actually connected to the same network that this network is connected to; link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1592619
[20:15] <plc90210> that this laptop is connected to*
[20:15] <plc90210> before it wasn't even connecting
[20:16] <KM0201> plc90210: and again(cuz i left last night after you got the STA driver installed and were seeing networks)... did you get it to successfully connect last night, and were able to surf the internet?
[20:16] <skooz> new install 10.10 desktop flashes on screen then disappears  back into log in screen
[20:18] <plc90210> no, it wasn't connecting, it was asking for the security key, but wasn't able to connect, so then i reset the router, and then it connected without any problem, and the wired connection also started working. when it has the wired connection, i can surf the internet, but when it has the wireless connection, i can't
[20:18] <acovrig> has anyone used mp4creator?
[20:18] <centHOGG> !mp4creator
[20:18] <XiaolinDraconis> wtf just happened
[20:19] <KM0201> plc90210: hmm, that makes me think there migh have been some mac filtering going on, if you could connect after resetting the router, but thats irrelevant
[20:19] <KM0201> plc90210: what is the security protocol of your network?
[20:19] <KM0201> WEP, WPA, etc..?
[20:19] <plc90210> WPA
[20:20] <KM0201> plc90210: ok.. what *I* would do.. is go into the router, set it to "no security".... and see if you can get on your wireless network.
[20:20] <Adman65> Anyone have an xonar stx? I can see stuff happening on the pulse audio mixer, but get no sound out of the card
[20:20] <KM0201> plc90210: if you can, change it to wep, and put a pssword on it, see if you can get on to it.
[20:20] <KM0201> and keep moving up, until you can't connect to it.
[20:20] <KM0201> im wondering if that device is s old, it doesn't support WPA
[20:20] <plc90210> how do i "go into the router"?
[20:20] <crimsun> Adman65: please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/InstallingLinuxAlsaDriverModules
[20:21] <Adman65> interesting
[20:21] <KM0201> plc90210: *usually*... by going to 192.168.1.1 on your web browser
[20:21] <KM0201> plc90210: if you want to PM me.. go ahead, cuz we're gonna have to discuss logging into your router, etc..
[20:21] <GimbliAFK> KM0201: as he already has an address on eth1 i think that it is already connected to the router and that it is not necessary to re-configure any security settings
[20:22] <KM0201> GimbliAFK: i dunno.. i'm not entirely convinced eth1 is his wireless.
[20:22] <KM0201> GimbliAFK: and even then.... if he'sconnected to the router, he can't get "out" of the router.
[20:23] <GimbliAFK> plc90210: on your laptop, try <ping 212.95.108.3> if you get an answer you are connected to the internet and only the dns lookup fails
[20:24] <KM0201> GimbliAFK: if i recall correctly, earlier he said he couldn't ping anything and was unable to ping other machines on the network
[20:25] <GimbliAFK> KM0201: ah ok, sorry, i missed that
[20:30] <thebigkick> anyone know any web dev irc channels?
[20:31] <Adman65> crimsun: still no luck :/
[20:33] <director87_> happy new year
[20:34] <director87_> can some one direct me to a channel or website that could help me retrieve files that i overwrote with a linux installation :-/ ?
[20:34] <director87_> probably not, i know -.-
[20:37] <desaiu> firefox is taking too long to load
[20:37] <desaiu> i want to remove everything and start from scratch
[20:37] <desaiu> maybe create a bakcup of the bookmarks, but then remove everything on the system and start from scratch
[20:37] <ayush_> will dell pre-install ubuntu on any laptop I buy or is it only an option on some laptops?
[20:38] <desaiu> i've tried apt-get purge firefox, but that doesn't seem to help, i'm going to try removing everything in  ~/.mozilla
[20:38] <GeekSquid> desaiu: sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox .... but backup your bookmarks first
[20:39] <desaiu> GeekSquid: i didn't backup my bookmarks because i couldn't launch the app
[20:39] <Dr_Willis> desaiu:  the pacvkage manger does NOT NOT NOT touch files in the users home dir
[20:39] <Dr_Willis> desaiu:  if you want to delete .mozilla then delete it..
[20:39] <desaiu> i removed ~/.mozilla and it launched like it should have been this entire time
[20:39] <GeekSquid> desaiu: the bookmarks are in ~/.mozilla
[20:39] <Dr_Willis> desaiu:  or just rename the dir
[20:40] <desaiu> i'm not too worried, i will fret later on when i remember there was something that i saw but couldn't remember where :)
[20:40] <KM0201> desaiu: just think, if you were using a certain OS from Redmond, you could have uninstalled and reinstalled Firefox...
[20:40] <desaiu> KM0201: meh
[20:41]  * desaiu is thankful for delicious and similar apps :)
[20:41] <KM0201> lol
[20:41] <intick> GeekSquid: hi again, another question about audio, how can i delete tags ? (of some 100 files at the same time)
[20:42] <demir> alguém trabalha com python aqui ?
[20:42] <GeekSquid> intick: search for ID3 in synaptic ... there are a number of tag editors, some more powerful/destructive than others
[20:42] <GeekSquid> !es | demir
[20:45] <TheDeadCPU> So.. How can I change the User Enviroment variables?
[20:45] <Firartix> hey here.... i can't get to open .mp3 files. i tried installing the "mp3play" package, but it just doesn't exist :P
[20:45] <TheDeadCPU> I know how to change them for SU, but not my user
[20:46] <Firartix> what can i install for those to work?
[20:46] <KM0201> Firartix: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:46] <KM0201> i believe that installs mp3 support, or maybe its gstreamer
[20:47] <Firartix> thanks, trying
[20:47] <TheDeadCPU> So.. How can I change the User Enviroment variables?
[20:47] <Firartix> (tried gstreamer, but it won't find it)
[20:48] <GeekSquid> Firartix: install the fluendo plugin from the partner repo
[20:49] <KM0201> Firartix: one of them should.. try double clicking an mp3, and ask it to search for the plugin
[20:49] <KM0201> i like how Ubuntu offers to install all that multimedia stuff during install now...
[20:49] <KM0201> i wish debian did that
[20:50] <Gartral> I can't sync with ubuntu-one, i've tried reinstalling but that didnt help at all
[20:50] <TheDeadCPU> Nobody knows?
[20:50] <Firartix> KM0201: i did it but, it won't find the plugin for some reason
[20:50] <KM0201> Firartix: so do what GeekSquid said above
[20:51] <Firartix> too late KM0201, i tried installing that ubuntu-restricted-extras package set and it does work
[20:51] <TheDeadCPU> So.. How can I change the User Enviroment variables?
[20:51] <KM0201> Firartix: i thought ti did..
[20:52] <OllieIcon> Hey, i need some help, i just installed: ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso I have an AMD CPU is that why the boot did not work?
[20:52] <ilovefairuz> TheDeadCPU: what are you trying to accomplish ?
[20:52] <OllieIcon> A test
[20:52] <desaiu> after removing ~/.mozilla, i then apt-get remove --purge firefox && apt-get update && apt-get install firefox
[20:52] <TheDeadCPU> ilovefairuz, add ADB to it so I don't have to be SU to use it
[20:53] <desaiu> but firefox crashes when i attempt to install firebug :(
[20:53] <compdoc> OllieIcon, it should run, but you might be better off with the AMD64 version
[20:53] <ilovefairuz> OllieIcon: do you get any specific error messages?
[20:53] <OllieIcon> No
[20:53] <OllieIcon> I just get a black screen
[20:53] <ilovefairuz> TheDeadCPU: elaborate
[20:53] <OllieIcon> But before the black screen i see a green screen
[20:53] <OllieIcon> With a little keyboard and man
[20:54] <compdoc> there are some motherboards that dynamically allocate memory for the vid card. if you have that option, you should set it for Fixed
[20:54] <TheDeadCPU> ilovefairuz, ADB = Android Debus Bridge, If I'm not SU I can not use the ADB command because it's not in my enviromental variables. I CAN CD to the filder with ADB but then my scripts wont work.
[20:54] <TheDeadCPU> folder*
[20:54] <ilovefairuz> OllieIcon: try pressing shift at the very beginning of the boot process, then edit the kernel parameters to remove "quiet splash"
[20:54] <OllieIcon> okay thanks
[20:54] <OllieIcon> Ill give that a go
[20:54] <OllieIcon> reapeatedly pressing shift?
[20:55] <OllieIcon> or hold it down?
[20:55] <ilovefairuz> TheDeadCPU: not "SU" ? not root, you mean?
[20:55] <ilovefairuz> OllieIcon: just hold it down
[20:55] <GeekSquid> TheDeadCPU: you might ask your question in #android or #android-dev ... I would imagine there are people there who have done exactly the same thing
[20:55] <TheDeadCPU> ilovefairuz, yes.
[20:55] <ilovefairuz> !enter | OllieIcon
[20:55] <TheDeadCPU> GeekSquid, all people there are complete noobs. (At least most of them)
[20:55] <intick> GeekSquid: thx again ;)
[20:56] <ilovefairuz> TheDeadCPU: gaining root privileges is done using sudo
[20:56] <OllieIcon> okay thanks mate
[20:56] <TheDeadCPU> GeekSquid, Or, #Android-dev might be able to help..
[20:56] <GeekSquid> TheDeadCPU: glad you caught that
[20:56] <TheDeadCPU> ilovefairuz, yes.... But adb is in the SU enviromental variables, NOT mine
[20:58] <ilovefairuz> TheDeadCPU: why do you keep using the term "SU"? there is  no such a thing as a SU user, there's either root or a less privileged user
[20:59] <ilovefairuz> TheDeadCPU: what's the exact command you're using?
[20:59] <TheDeadCPU> ilovefairuz, SU is easier to write then root.
[20:59] <Adman65> anyone give me a hand with my sound card? I've got a xonar stx. I can see it on the output in the pulse audiomixer, but no sound
[21:00] <ilovefairuz> TheDeadCPU: it's wrong. period.
[21:00] <crimsun> Adman65: please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/AlsaInfo
[21:00] <TheDeadCPU> ilovefairuz, ok ok sorry -.-
[21:01] <TheDeadCPU> ilovefairuz, Let me try again. How can I edit my USER enviromental valuables?
[21:02] <kholzer> Hi, I ran the distribution upgrade script (from the default Kubuntu package manager, 10.4 -> 10.10) and it crashed.  My system is still on; what can I do to fix this?  I only have SSH access now, this computer is at my parents house about an hour's drive away...
[21:02] <ilovefairuz> TheDeadCPU:  for a specific command you just prefix the variable identifier and it's value to the command itself, example: SOMETHING=VALUE ls
[21:03] <ilovefairuz> TheDeadCPU: this will run the 'ls' command with the value for the environment variable SOMETHING equal to VALUE
[21:03] <rpsyj> welcome, and happy new year y'all
[21:04] <theelitenoob> hi
[21:04] <bucky> TheDeadCPU, type env  if the executable isn't in there then..
[21:04] <rpsyj> how does wacom pen&touch work with ubuntu 10.10?
[21:04] <theelitenoob> hmm
[21:04] <theelitenoob> not sure
[21:04] <ilovefairuz> TheDeadCPU: to permanently  set  the value, edit ~/.profile
[21:05] <bucky> TheDeadCPU, add something like PATH=$HOME/or/other/path/to/adb:$PATH  to ~/.profile and do a . .profile or log out and back in again
[21:05] <TheDeadCPU> bucky, Ty!
[21:05] <rpsyj> can i use the right strafe of tablet to scroll the websites etc?
[21:06] <TheDeadCPU> I just did PATH=/everything/that/was/here:/New/folder/thing
[21:07] <avis> overturners are not sealed
[21:08] <TheDeadCPU> Though that didn't seem to stick..
[21:08] <norbert_> hey all
[21:08] <edbian> norbert_: hello
[21:09] <norbert_> question, maybe someone knows: what is a good free Poker game that works under Ubuntu?
[21:09] <norbert_> there is Governor of Poker, but it's limited and needs payment...
[21:09] <bucky> TheDeadCPU, you're going to have to get the path right and make sure you include the rest of your env with $PATH at the end and then source the .profile file with . .profile or log out and back in again
[21:09] <kholzer> norbert_: online?
[21:09] <kholzer> norbert_: or what?
[21:10] <norbert_> well, online is fine, or download
[21:10] <norbert_> either one :)
[21:10] <kholzer> http://linuxowns.wordpress.com/2008/11/14/playing-poker-on-ubuntu/
[21:10] <rpsyj> norbert_: my favourite is called "aptitude" :/
[21:10] <kholzer> rpsyj: poker game?  and package manager?
[21:10] <rpsyj> "synaptic" is also cool, better graphics but a little bit slower
[21:10] <rpsyj> yeah
[21:10] <TheDeadCPU> bucky, I managed. I just added "export PATH=$PATH:/folder"  to my .bashrc
[21:11] <grelle> anyone here familiar with LVM? I have a setup in virtualbox to try LVM out. I've created a logical volume over 3 drives. I removed one of the drives and am now trying to recover the volume with the two remaining drives. I can't get it to work.
[21:11] <grelle> I'm hoping that, if I run this in a real system, I would be able to restore some of the files in case of a drive failure.
[21:11] <rpsyj> norbert_ now srsly - run "Synaptic package manager" and search "poker", or "online poker"
[21:11] <rpsyj> easier, eh?
[21:11] <kholzer> norbert_: do you want to play against people or computers?  for money?  or what?
[21:11] <kholzer> rpsyj: he asked for the best; maybe someone in here knows it
[21:12] <edbian> !best
[21:12] <rpsyj> ok, sorry
[21:12] <Melonium> hi
[21:12] <FalseLobster> Hi everyone.  I'm trying to make a persistent live usb.  Is there anyway around the FAT32 requirement?  I plan on using an ext partition for my persistence, and I don't want windows stuck with FAT32 for the rest of the space on the usb.
[21:13] <edbian> FalseLobster: Install Ubuntu on there.  Then use gparted to format the remainder of the drive however you want
[21:13] <kholzer> Okay; perhaps I avoid superlatives.  He asked for a 'good' one.
[21:13] <kholzer> read 'I' as 'I should'
[21:14] <norbert_> yes, I tried to avoid "best" :)
[21:14] <nit-wit> FalseLobster, generally it is a ext2
[21:14] <kholzer> ugh...being pedantic is such a pain in the ass
[21:14] <skooz> bue11 hello
[21:15] <FalseLobster> Alright, so maybe I'm confused, but I thought there was more to it than simply installing Ubuntu to an ext partition on a usb drive
[21:16] <kholzer> norbert_: I'll try to find you a good summary of the available options...give me a second.  Do you want to play for money or for fun?
[21:16] <FalseLobster> I've found several windows programs that will create one, but they all seem to insist on a FAT32 partition
[21:16] <norbert_> kholzer: for fun
[21:16] <kholzer> ok
[21:16] <kholzer> norbert_: you are using ubuntu, not kubuntu (i.e. gnome, not kde), correct?
[21:17] <Firartix> "norbert" ?
[21:17] <norbert_> well, debian stable :)
[21:17] <norbert_> but I can compile stuff
[21:17] <FalseLobster> Am I wrong in this assessment? If I just installed it to the USB as if it were a regular drive, would it be bootable ?
[21:18] <itaylor57> i don't think so
[21:19] <FalseLobster> excuse me?
[21:19] <skooz> have a new install of ubuntu 10.10 have login issue. mostly have to select other to log in then it might take a few times
[21:19] <norbert_> pokerth in the repositories appears to be stuck at 80% when I connect to the internet...
[21:21] <plrca2> I've got a question about network booting
[21:21] <kholzer> norbert_: what about AisleRiot?  gui or command line?
[21:21] <form_> hi. how can i change the runlevel of a fresh ubuntu 10.10 installation, so that i can login in textmode?
[21:21] <ilovefairuz> FalseLobster: i think it would, yes
[21:21] <norbert_> gui is preferable
[21:22] <cs02rm0> if i have a machine running as a dns server and i want it to serve its own hostname, what do i do to stop it serving 127.0.0.1 as its own IP?
[21:22] <itaylor57> form_: runlevel 1
[21:22] <bs123> plrca2 you need to ask....or look at topic and read guidelines
[21:22] <form_> itaylor57: yeah. where? startscripts seems to be hiding from the admin
[21:23] <L> lhb
[21:23] <plrca2> I was waiting for someone to offer help. I've tried setting root-path in the dhcp server, but ${ROOTPATH} seems to be empty on the client. It give the error "nfsmount: need a path"
[21:24] <bs123> best just to ask :)
[21:24] <ilovefairuz> cs02rm0: /etc/hosts?
[21:24] <Dwade09> anyone wanna take a crack at this wine problem i am having ? http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=62932&p=362162#p362162
[21:24] <plrca2> I'll remember that bs123 :)
[21:24] <Arakul> С новым годом!
[21:24] <ilovefairuz> !ru | Arakul
[21:25] <cs02rm0> ilovefairuz: i've got a line for 127.0.0.1 followed by another line for the eth0 interface. it's serving 127.0.0.1 to other machines then.
[21:25] <ilovefairuz> cs02rm0: pastebin
[21:26] <itaylor57> form_: well if I was on a solaris system I could tell you,
[21:26] <nit-wit> FalseLobster, you can full install to a thumb but it should be at least 8 gigs and have the grub bootloader pointed at its mbr use the custom install to set grub
[21:26] <defsdoor> can anyone help with this error when trying to update - E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on upstart
[21:27] <nit-wit> defsdoor, is that all the error message
[21:27] <form_> defsdoor: http://www.google.de/search?client=opera&rls=de&q=Internal+Error,+Could+not+perform+immediate+configuration+(2)+on+upstart&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest
[21:27] <cs02rm0> ilovefairuz: http://pastebin.com/6RPRRFnM
[21:27] <defsdoor> nit-wit, yes
[21:27] <kholzer> norbert_: hmm...doesn't look like there are many good options to play against the CPU...a quick search on http://packages.ubuntu.com doesn't turn up much that looks promising.  If you want to play for money, there are java based sites out there; not sure about free games against other players
[21:28] <kholzer> norbert_: you may have luck with WINE and commercial software
[21:28] <norbert_> yep
[21:28] <norbert_> I'm trying pokerth
[21:28] <kholzer> ok
[21:28] <norbert_> seems okay
[21:28] <FalseLobster> nit-wit: I know what grub and mbr are, but you kinda lost me with the second half of that sentence.  The flash drive is 32 GB :)
[21:28] <kholzer> cool, thats what I like to hear :)
[21:28] <ilovefairuz> cs02rm0: 127.0.0.1   america  localhost
[21:28] <kholzer> have a good new year then :)
[21:29] <norbert_> lol
[21:29] <norbert_> same :)
[21:30] <kholzer> FalseLobster: What are you trying to do?
[21:30] <cs02rm0> ilovefairuz: thanks, that works.
[21:30] <itaylor57> it seems ubuntu is "almost nearly but not quite harldly" an upstart system
[21:30] <kholzer> FalseLobster: It should be straightforward to make a bootable USB stick.
[21:30] <kholzer> itaylor57: Depends on how you slice it.
[21:30] <nit-wit> FalseLobster, with lucid and maverick the install partitioning area have a dropdown for where thr grub bootloader is going. If your doing a staright install to any internal or external you want to get to that dropdown and make sure the grub bootloader is pointed to be installed in the correct mbr
[21:31] <itaylor57> kholzer: im just trying to understand the boot sequence
[21:31] <kholzer> itaylor57: Windows comes pre-installed on computers.  Most issues there are worked around by people....
[21:31] <kholzer> itaylor57: okay okay :)
[21:31] <nit-wit> FalseLobster, you have to choose a custom install to see this dropdown in maverick Lucid as well I belive the installer has been changing
[21:32] <kholzer> itaylor57: what do you mean by an upstart system?
[21:32] <skooz> I am having  login and shutdown restart problems. ubuntu 10.10. login sometimes sometimes takes a couple tries. go to restart looks like it will half way restart then ill have to shut off manually
[21:32] <kholzer> itaylor57: basically, grub knows where the kernel is; moves the kernel into memory, changes the instruction pointer to where the kernel is, and then everything kicks off.
[21:33] <Outlier> OK, this has to be a no-brainer, but if I want to set a java program running so I can log out and let it complete in my absence, how do I do this?
[21:33] <itaylor57> kholzer: I am referring to upstart a component of the boot load sequence
[21:33] <kholzer> itaylor57: is that an init replacement?
[21:33] <gjm> happy new year guys!
[21:33] <kholzer> itaylor57: I'm a unix guy, not a debian/ubuntu guy...
[21:33] <FalseLobster> kholzer: SHOULD be.  I've spent hours on this project, gave up, and am returning to it now because I have more free time.
[21:34] <FalseLobster> nit-wit: So what you're saying is that grub should be going to the USB's mbr ?
[21:34] <form_> ok switching to debian again. this kinda suckx
[21:34] <itaylor57> kholzer: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[21:34] <nit-wit> FalseLobster, yes if it is a full install
[21:35] <kholzer> FalseLobster: what OS are you trying to install it from?
[21:35] <arnaud> trustonme
[21:36] <FalseLobster> kholzer: Currently? Windows.  Although I'm sure I could just as easily make a live CD and do it from Ubuntu if I needed to.
[21:36] <kholzer> itaylor57: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/misc/upstart.pdf
[21:37] <kholzer> FalseLobster: Give me a second
[21:39] <kholzer> sheesh, no thanks
[21:39] <Outlier> Is there any easy way to start a program from the command line that will keep it running after I log out?
[21:40] <haux> Join #android
[21:40] <defsdoor> Outlier, nohup or screen
[21:40] <ilovefairuz> Outlier: is it a graphical app?
[21:40] <kholzer> haux: No!
[21:40] <haux> :-)
[21:40] <haux> sorry
[21:40] <kholzer> :)
[21:40]  * kholzer was kidding
[21:40] <Outlier> nope - just some text output for status that I'd happily dump in /dev/nul
[21:40] <haux> I don't know how to use this stuff
[21:40] <kholzer> haux /join #android :)
[21:40] <defsdoor> Outlier, nohup yourcommand &
[21:40] <FalseLobster> kholzer: Here's a forum post describing exactly what I'm trying to do http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1656996
[21:40] <shcherbak> Outlier: screen, tmux. but you need to have user.
[21:41] <defsdoor> Outlier, if you have already started it background it and then disown it
[21:41] <haux> doesn't work ! "/join #android"
[21:41] <ilovefairuz> Outlier: you could login to a virtual terminal and do your thing, ctrl + alt + f2  ... or f7 to get back
[21:41] <IdleOne> !register | haux
[21:41] <kholzer> FalseLobster: Why NTFS instead of FAT?  Is there a size limitation or something on FAT32?  (I seem to remember something along these lines...)
[21:42] <IdleOne> haux: you need to register and identify, see info from ubottu
[21:42] <kholzer> FalseLobster: NTFS is superior (journaled, etc), but FAT is omnipresent...
[21:43] <Outlier> hmmm lots of options.  Thanks.  Sounds like nohup is the easiest thing, maybe.
[21:43] <ilovefairuz> kholzer: and yes there are file size limitations on FAT
[21:43] <haux> to IdleOne  ubottu how  can I get info from there ? is it an url ?
[21:43] <FalseLobster> kholzer: FAT32 has a max file size of 4GB.  I actually had it working already using one of those utilities and FAT32, but then I had a DVD iso I was trying to get from  someone else and realized I couldn't copy the file.
[21:43] <aLemmer> Hey, I'm using Ubuntu 10.10 with Gnome. Every time I hide my panel and unhide it, the window list disappears.
[21:43] <Outlier> ilovefairuz - don't think the virtual terminal thing would work, since I'm doing this over ssh on a headless server.
[21:43] <IdleOne> haux: go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration and follow the instructions
[21:43] <itaylor57> Outlier: nohup works great, the man page helps is you have output
[21:43] <kholzer> FalseLobster: Lameness.  There are filesplitters/joiners you can use to deal with that...
[21:44] <haux> thx IdleOne
[21:44] <kholzer> FalseLobster: There shoudl be no problem getting what you want though.
[21:44] <Dwade09>  hey guys im running linuxmint 10 gnome and i have intel mobile 4 series chipset integrated graphics card where do i get the driver for it? here is my glxinfo if it helps http://pastebin.com/s22iuG0L
[21:44] <Outlier> Thanks, itaylor57.  I wasted far too much time trying to get batch to do it for me.
[21:44] <ilovefairuz> !mint | Dwade09
[21:44] <nit-wit> FalseLobster, so after looking at your thread if you want a MS platform to read the ntfs partition it will have to be the first partition. Then put the ISO load or full install after it
[21:45] <Dwade09> ilovefairuz,  i know this and uh linuxmint 10 gnome is based of ubuntu 10.10 meerkat
[21:45] <kholzer> FalseLobster: *should.  You can partition it however you want.  NTFS will work as a secondary partition.  Note, however, that it won't connect to OS X boxes out of the box (need to install NTFS 3G's FUSE Mac Driver first).
[21:45] <kholzer> FalseLobster: You can definitely get a program that requires no installation that will split files to deal with FAT's limitations.
[21:46] <ilovefairuz> Dwade09: uses different repositories and so we can't provide support for it here
[21:46] <kholzer> FalseLobster: Also, while NTFS-3G's NTFS support is pretty good, it isn't perfect.
[21:46] <KM0201> Dwade09: still different, try #linuxmint
[21:46] <Christiannn> hi my ubuntu is showing me i have the hard disk full when it isnt /dev/md1 462G 462G 0 100% / what can i do ?
[21:46] <kholzer> FalseLobster: Want me to find you a file splitter/joiner?
[21:46] <Seveas> Dwade09, maybe ask in #debian instead then, it's all based on that...
[21:46] <KM0201> Seveas: lol, for the win
[21:46] <Seveas> Christiannn, remove some files.
[21:46] <FalseLobster> kholzer: I don't give a crap about mac; and I don't really want that inconvenience, although I realize that is an option.  I can find one myself, I'm trying to set up my live usb now, not get the dvd iso
[21:47] <defsdoor> Christiannn, has it been full and you deleted some files ?
[21:47] <Outlier> itaylor57 - thanks again, it's working great.
[21:47] <ilovefairuz> !language | FalseLobster
[21:47] <Christiannn> ye also i deleted one folder with 100gb
[21:47] <Christiannn> and it still showing me full hd
[21:47] <defsdoor> Christiannn, the files are still open
[21:47] <Christiannn> no
[21:47] <enbloc> how do I do a find that returns ONLY directories which are leaf nodes? I see how to prune leaf nodes,
[21:47] <Seveas> Christiannn, deleted or moved to trash?
[21:47] <Christiannn> delted
[21:47] <Christiannn> rm -rf
[21:47] <Dwade09> thanks Seveas
[21:47] <itaylor57> Outlier: np
[21:47] <FalseLobster> ilovefairuz: Sorry, I figured the c word was relatively safe
[21:48] <kholzer> FalseLobster: Understood.  (I'm actually typing this from a Mac; they're pretty nice IMO.)  Just set the second partition to be NTFS; life will be good.
[21:48] <Seveas> Christiannn, and you're sure it was on that partition?
[21:48] <ilovefairuz> Christiannn:  du --max-depth=1
[21:48] <defsdoor> Christiannn, the actual file won't be deleted until any open references to it are closed so kill of anything that used the file(s) you deleted
[21:48] <Outlier> exit
[21:48] <ilovefairuz> Christiannn: add this too: -h
[21:48] <kholzer> FalseLobster: Or use one of the tools and format it as FAT32, and in windows, 'upgrade' it to NTFS
[21:48] <Christiannn> in what folder?
[21:49] <FalseLobster> Hmm... Alright.  Well thanks to both of you, kholzer & nit-wit.  I think I can figure this out
[21:49] <ilovefairuz> !who | Christiannn
[21:49] <haux> TYhe server has said that I am already registred ! and I can't /join #android
[21:49] <kholzer> FalseLobster: Most people writing these tools are more in the hacker category; my hacker buddy likes FAT32 better than NTFS for his own data (although he really doesn't like either)
[21:49] <Christiannn> sorry lol
[21:49] <ilovefairuz> haux: /join #freenode, ask for help there
[21:49] <kholzer> FalseLobster: No problem :)
[21:49] <defsdoor> Christiannn, reboot will sort any open file issues
[21:49] <Christiannn> ilovefairuz in what folder
[21:50] <Christiannn> i alredy reboot the system 3 time
[21:50] <kholzer> FalseLobster: You can email me if you get stuck, my contact info is at my webpage: <http://hlzr.net>
[21:50] <nit-wit> FalseLobster, have a happy new year.:)
[21:50] <Seveas> Christiannn, use baobab to find out what still takes up all the space
[21:50] <ilovefairuz> Christiannn: you can do your home, or folders you suspect there are big files; or your can try it straight on /
[21:50] <defsdoor> Christiannn, does df as root show different ? - normal user has (by default) 5% hiddent from it
[21:50] <Christiannn> is a server.. i only have acces on a terminal on ssh Seveas
[21:51] <Seveas> Christiannn, then du -shc /*
[21:51] <Seveas> and dive deeper into each big folder
[21:51] <haux> is there some one using chat based program? which one ?
[21:51] <Christiannn> 201G /usr
[21:51] <Christiannn> 255G /var
[21:51] <Christiannn> lol
[21:51] <kholzer> haux: you mean IRC + IM?
[21:51] <country0129> Using Ubuntu 10.10.  Installed Samba4.  Want to network with Win7OPro.   I could see and manipulate files on the Ubuntu machine.  The Ubuntu machine sees the Win7 machine, but I can't log in.  Keeps giving me the login screens even if I put in the correct credentials.  Any ideas?
[21:52] <Christiannn> [Seveas] /var and /usr have all hd full lol
[21:52] <Christiannn> sorry for colors :S
[21:52] <Christiannn> turned off x)
[21:52] <FalseLobster> nit-wit: you too :)
[21:52] <Seveas> Christiannn, then use du on the subfolders to see where the space is taken. 201G for /usr seems like a lot
[21:52] <FalseLobster> kholzer: Thanks, hopefully won't be necessary
[21:52] <kholzer> haux: I decided against those; they tend not to work for me.  X-Chat is pretty good for IRC
[21:53] <kholzer> FalseLobster: Good luck then.  Have a good new year; cheers!
[21:53] <JPeterson> I'm removing unused packages, how do I remove "unattended-upgrades"?
[21:53] <Christiannn> Seveas 200G /usr/lib
[21:54] <JPeterson> i mean the "unattended-upgrades"service
[21:54] <Seveas> Christiannn, you're getting closer, keep digging :)
[21:54] <haux> I am tolking about IRC. I know X-chat, but it's graphical one, I am want texte one to use on my black screen
[21:54] <KM0201> GeekSquid: it had to be a setting in plc90210's router... he couldn't remember the router password, so we reset it, and wen tthrough the settings one by one, set it u w/ WPA2, and it works fien now... but his wireless is still eth1, instead of wlan0... go figure
[21:54] <kholzer> Christiannn: do a du -kx | sort -n
[21:55] <kholzer> Christiannn: (from /)
[21:55] <itaylor57> haux: irssi
[21:55] <Christiannn> okey okey i will search, wait me Seveas bcuz i dunno what files are for the system, so if i delete something i will destroy my system
[21:55] <Christiannn> ok kholzer just a second
[21:55] <Seveas> Christiannn, just keep digging, 200GB in /usr/lib is a lot
[21:55] <kholzer> Christiannn: Then biggest will be at the bottom
[21:55] <kholzer> Seveas: Agreed
[21:56] <JPeterson> my service list looks like this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/disabling-unnecessary-startup-services-850426/
[21:56] <JPeterson> how do I remove bluetooth and unattended-upgrades? what's the package names for those services?
[21:56] <haux> irss ! thx I heared about this stuff
[21:56] <country0129> I need a networking guru with help Ubuntu/Win7 home networking.
[21:56] <kholzer> JPeterson: why are you doing this?  Is your computer slow?
[21:56] <Seveas> JPeterson, anything with bluez in the name is for bluetooth
[21:56] <Christiannn> 200G //usr/lib/samba/vfs/system.so
[21:56] <Christiannn> this file !
[21:56] <Christiannn> Seveas 200G //usr/lib/samba/vfs/system.so
[21:56] <Christiannn> lol
[21:57] <JPeterson> i did apt-get remove --purge bluetooth* but it's still there
[21:57] <kholzer> country0129: try asking in #samba; my samba chops aren't hot enough for me to quote a fix to you
[21:57] <itaylor57> haux: http://www.irssi.org/
[21:57] <JPeterson> kholzer: no I'm just remove unused packages
[21:57] <JPeterson> *removing
[21:57] <enbloc> ah - link count - find . -type d -links 2 returns only leaf dirs
[21:57] <kholzer> JPeterson: Are you out of space?
[21:57] <country0129> Might work, Kholzer.  I'll try that.  Thanks.
[21:57] <kholzer> JPeterson: If it ain't broke, don't fix it :)
[21:58] <centHOGG> concur
[21:58] <Christiannn> kholzer the file is 200G //usr/lib/samba/vfs/system.so
[21:58] <Christiannn> but i think is from the system :S
[21:58] <Christiannn> ?
[21:58] <kholzer> hmm...
[21:58] <kholzer> give me a second
[21:58] <Christiannn> lol
[21:58] <Christiannn> [okay]
[21:58] <kholzer> sounds like a bad bug
[21:58] <kholzer> Christiannn: Go into #samba and ask them what the hell is up.
[21:59] <Seveas> kholzer, or something more serious
[21:59] <Seveas> yes, good idea
[21:59] <kholzer> Christiannn: Something is either seriously broken in samba or in your configuration of samba...
[21:59] <Seveas> Christiannn, does the file go away if you stop samba?
[21:59] <JPeterson> kholzer: yes i agree, but I at least want to remove all unused packages that have services
[21:59] <Christiannn> let me check
[21:59] <kholzer> JPeterson: For security purpouses?  Or what?
[22:00] <Christiannn> nou
[22:00] <skooz> ubuntu 10.10 when i do get log in sometimes my menus are hidden and i have to power off then power on might take a couple times
[22:00] <JPeterson> kholzer: no just mental illness on my part (joking)
[22:00] <Mkaysi> Happy New Year!
[22:00] <kholzer> JPeterson: haha...don't make your life any harder than it needs to be
[22:00] <kholzer> actually, thats what I'm going to do
[22:00] <Christiannn> Seveas no
[22:00] <kholzer> later, going to ride my bike :)
[22:00] <JPeterson> ok so remove --purge bluez* took care of the bluetooth service
[22:00] <insidiousraven> Does anyone have a good tutorial for setting up nvidia tv-out for just the tv with no monitor?
[22:00] <Seveas> Christiannn, then follow kholzer's advice and join #samba
[22:01] <Christiannn> yes thnks iam asking on samba also i will search the file in /var
[22:01] <JPeterson> i still haven't found the package for the "unattended-upgrades" service
[22:01] <Seveas> JPeterson, the unattended-upgrades service surprisingly comes from the unattended-upgrades package :)
[22:02] <Teemu_K> happy new year 2011! (changed just a moment ago"
[22:02] <JPeterson> Seveas: thanks
[22:02] <optik> what is the default root password for an ubuntu install?
[22:02] <edbian> !root
[22:03] <edbian> optik: There ain't one ^^^
[22:03] <JPeterson> Seveas: what about the "x11-common" service
[22:03] <cryptodira> sound sound sound & microphone.... toshiba satellite, amd64 chipset, ubuntu 10.04.... sound in earphone jack only NO microphone...help Please
[22:03] <Seveas> JPeterson, unless you don't want a GUI you should keep it :)
[22:03] <JPeterson> i don't
[22:03] <JPeterson> it was originally a nautty-desktop installation, but i'm removing all that
[22:03] <optik> thats bs, why cant u have super user access to your own system?
[22:04] <insidiousraven> Anyone have experience with nvidia tv out?  I;m quite desperate
[22:04] <Seveas> JPeterson, it can go
[22:04] <Seveas> optik, read the docs. You still have superuser access.
[22:04] <edbian> optik: use sudo
[22:04] <JPeterson> Seveas: but what is the package that installs the x11-common service? I tried apt-get remove --purge x11-common*
[22:05] <optik> im going back to gentoo
[22:05] <Seveas> JPeterson, you can remove everything with x11 in the name x11 is the gui
[22:05] <Christiannn> Seveas what if i reinstall samba with apt-get , iam not getting answers from #samba
[22:05] <Seveas> optik, bye!
[22:05] <MrUnagi> can anyone help me figure out why i can upload files via sftp to a ubuntu box but sshfs with fuse gives permission errors?
[22:06] <edbian> MrUnagi: I can.  What are the permissions on the folder?
[22:06] <bucky> JPeterson, prolly called xorg   do a dpkg -l xorg
[22:06] <JPeterson> Seveas: ok, how do I halt a apt-get that I started by mistake?
[22:06] <JPeterson> ctrl + c doesn't work
[22:07] <MrUnagi> edbian: drwxrwxrwx 5 bjames8462 sftp 4096 2010-12-31 16:05 MyDropbox
[22:07] <cryptodira> pointers to a sound solution anyone..... amd64 chipset, 10.04  ... no speaker sound only earphone...no microphone...need to have this operational for a softphone voip over satellite
[22:07] <edbian> MrUnagi: What is the permission error?
[22:07] <edbian> MrUnagi: According to that everybody should be able to read / write / execute so it should be working
[22:07] <MrUnagi> edbian: that is why i am confused
[22:08] <MrUnagi> 1 sec
[22:08] <edbian> MrUnagi: who are you logging in as?
[22:08] <witless> hi - how can i run a shell script without an interactive terminal?
[22:08] <MrUnagi> edbian: same user than can sftp just fine....bjame462
[22:08] <MrUnagi> er....yea something like that lol
[22:08] <JPeterson> ok, i had to kill it from another login
[22:08] <itaylor57> witless: don't call termal commands
[22:08] <edbian> MrUnagi: Well ftp as no file permissions (that's the problem with it) so it won't matter what they are
[22:08] <MrUnagi> "The operation can’t be completed because you don’t have permission to access some of the items."
[22:09] <MrUnagi> that is what i get when trying to upload over sshfs
[22:09] <edbian> MrUnagi: What are you trying to do?  Mount?
[22:09] <MrUnagi> edbian: mounting works just fine, i can see the mount...i am simply trying to upload to the mount
[22:09] <kad_> heys!! happy New Year all
[22:09] <edbian> MrUnagi: Who are you logging in as on the remote machine? a different user than the one locally?
[22:10] <itaylor57> witless: when do you want this script run?
[22:10] <edbian> MrUnagi: What are the permissions on the files you're tyring to move?
[22:10] <bucky> witless, put it in a file with #!/bin/sh at the top, chmod +x and run it ./filename.sh or sh filename
[22:10] <MrUnagi> -rwxrwxr-x@ 1 MrUnagi  staff  513 Dec 28 00:27 chroot_steps.rtf
[22:10] <MrUnagi> edbian:
[22:10] <kad_> i need to ask!! why Always Laptop Battery kept: "Estimating"? i mean when i un-plug the cord, laptop battery don't tell me: Left time, it always kept appears: Estimating!! why ? thx
[22:10] <witless> itaylor57:
[22:10] <insidiousraven> could anyone help me out with getting my nvidia card to display on the tv via svideo? I can't figure it out :(
[22:11] <magicianlord> kad_: because it doesnt really know
[22:11] <edbian> MrUnagi: If you ssh to the server what are the permissions on the folder than you're mounting? (It will look differently locally on the server than it does remotely)
[22:11] <witless> itaylor57: i'm trying to run a command inside screen when a network interface comes up
[22:11] <MrUnagi> i have ssh login disabled on the user
[22:11] <witless> so i created a script in /etc/init.d/if-up.d
[22:11] <edbian> MrUnagi: make that file 777 just in case
[22:11] <kad_> magicianlord, it kept more than 1 hour like this, is't normal ?
[22:11] <edbian> MrUnagi: When you sshfs you are still logging in as some user so that the file permissions make sense
[22:12] <edbian> MrUnagi: How did you mount? using a command as the bash shell?
[22:12] <itaylor57> witless: good luck with that
[22:12] <MrUnagi> edbian: yes, and the user has sftp access....correct?
[22:12] <MrUnagi> edbian: fuse
[22:12] <edbian> MrUnagi: yes what?
[22:12] <JPeterson> bucky: thanks by the way, x11 and xorg removed now
[22:12] <bucky> np
[22:12] <MrUnagi> edbian: i think i figured out the problem
[22:12] <MrUnagi> edbian: thank you for your help
[22:12] <bucky> it's been called xorg for a while now
[22:12] <edbian> MrUnagi: oh good
[22:12] <magicianlord> kad_: no, it isn't normal. sometimes if you leave the laptop out in the cold, it may have a hard time calibrating. also, if there is a software bug. or hardware bug.
[22:13] <edbian> MrUnagi: What was the problem? :)
[22:13] <MrUnagi> edbian: i think the user has to have ssh access
[22:13] <edbian> MrUnagi: wouldn't surprise me
[22:13] <bucky> witless, you'll have to read up on the files in /etc/network
[22:13] <MrUnagi> edbian: i have to find a way to jail the ssh user
[22:13] <kad_> magicianlord, i think hardware bug because it's new laptop
[22:13] <edbian> MrUnagi: don't make them a sudoer, don't give them a home folder, problem solved
[22:14] <magicianlord> kad_: did it do this in windows?
[22:14] <MrUnagi> edbian: would they have access without a home folder
[22:14] <edbian> MrUnagi: They could log in and run programs and read files but they would not be able to save any changes to anything anywhere without a home folder
[22:15] <kad_> magicianlord, in windows it kept 100% :P although it can handle up to 2 hours lifetime ... but i just want to know why it kept "estimating"
[22:15] <Firartix> that'd be a problem not having a home folder imo...
[22:15] <MrUnagi> edbian: i was hoping to allow the user to read write execute from the home folder only
[22:15] <Firartix> you cannot really do anything about config file or anything
[22:15] <MrUnagi> edbian but not be able to access above the home folder
[22:16] <edbian> MrUnagi: There is probably a way to do that.  I'm not sure.  Just to be clear, by default linux lets users read things all over but they can only write in their home (root can write anywhere)
[22:16] <magicianlord> kad_: This is known bug that affects HP, Compaq, Dell and other manufactures. This is because of a change made in gnome-power-manager where by the estimate is done on time remaining, rather than percentage. This change does not play nice with some hardware and is why you are seeing (estimaing...) constantly.
[22:16] <daedaluz> where is the proper config file for fstab in 10.10? it doesn't list windows partitions yet automounts them and hands permissions to all+dog
[22:17] <jeaton> does ubuntu have any widget applications?
[22:17] <edbian> MrUnagi: chroot is a tool that might be useful
[22:17] <magicianlord> kad_: The bug report about it is here if you fancy a read: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/629258
[22:17] <magicianlord> daedaluz: /etc/fstab
[22:17] <MrUnagi> edbian: i am still getting errors.....i have to figure out why my admin account can and this user cant
[22:17] <daedaluz> magicianlord: I just said it doesn't list windows partitions
[22:17] <magicianlord> daedaluz: why not
[22:18] <edbian> MrUnagi: Is the admin account root
[22:18] <edbian> ?
[22:18] <daedaluz> magicianlord: beats me, thought it's similar magic like moving grub setting to /etc/default
[22:18] <kad_> magicianlord, thx i'll read now, happy new year =)
[22:18] <magicianlord> daedaluz: there is no reason to mess with that, is there
[22:18] <magicianlord> daedaluz: i always nano'ed /etc/fstab
[22:19] <magicianlord> kad_: ok, good year to you
[22:19] <daedaluz> magicianlord: I *said* it's automounting all window partitions, while listing none, and handing permissions to everyone for everything. Yes, I need to edit that POS where ever it resides
[22:20] <edbian> daedaluz: /etc/fstab  is the file you wanna edit
[22:20] <magicianlord> daedaluz: it's probably linked
[22:20] <daedaluz> magicianlord: bingo! but where? that was my original question.
[22:20] <whorush> hey, i hit the wireless button on my laptop to temporarily turn my wireless offf, and now i can't get the wireless to come back on, no matter how many times i restart.  had this problem before, i think there's a command to reset my button?
[22:21] <edbian> whorush: Does your wireless network card show up in the output of lspci?
[22:21] <whorush> edbian, yes, it's there and it works, i just can't enable it
[22:22] <scottj> Can you typically take a hdd out of a desktop ubuntu box and have it boot fine in a laptop? Or during install does ubuntu configure itself to load all the drivers necessary for your hardware? Is there a util to reconfigure for hardware without doing a reinstall?
[22:22] <edbian> whorush: Did you try to insert the module for the card?
[22:22] <magicianlord> daedaluz: i thought that if we just kept on talking, you would eventually find it and feel better
[22:22] <whorush> edbian, what does that mean?
[22:23] <bucky> MrUnagi, in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS it says "Note that you have to change $USER to your login name "  that's part of your problem
[22:23] <itaylor57> witless: probably should  be in /etc/network/if-up.d
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> scottj:  normally laptop's use differnt sized hd.. 2.5 inch vs 3.25 i think.
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> scottj:  with an adaptor it can work
[22:23] <edbian> whorush: let me explain how it works real quick.  The switch sends a signal to the hardware of the card.  The card recieves the signal and turns on or off (depending on what it was when it got the signal).  If the computer is shut down it will have no effect, the card remembers its' state.  If the card is on when the computer starts it should find it and insert the module into the kernel and use it (a module is basically a driver).  If
[22:23] <scottj> Dr_Willis: it's a laptop ssd in the desktop so physically there's no problem
[22:24] <edbian> the card is off then the system won't see it and no amount of hitting the switch will bring it back.
[22:24] <Dr_Willis> scottj:  ive moved hd's from one laptop to a radically newer one with few issues. same for desktop machines.
[22:24] <daedaluz> magicianlord: look, after community wiki got gimped for devs only, I've been forced to seek my info here. If you don't know it, fine, but don't act like illiterate retard
[22:24] <Dr_Willis> scottj:  things to watch out for would be the video card drivers.
[22:24] <MrUnagi> bucky: that would make sense if it didnt work with the admin user
[22:24] <edbian> whorush: The only way to bring the card back is to turn have the computer boot while the card is 'on' or to insert the module manually
[22:24] <magicianlord> daedaluz: dont worry, g. i will help you
[22:24] <edbian> whorush: If the card is listed in lspci than I believe it is on
[22:24] <whorush> edbian, ok, let me try again
[22:25] <bucky> MrUnagi, did you read the ubuntu community documentation at the url above ^^ ?
[22:25] <scottj> Dr_Willis: and for hardware that's different just add/remove stuff from /etc/modules?
[22:25] <edbian> whorush: I can help you figure out the command to manually insert the module again if this doesn't work.
[22:25] <MrUnagi> bucky: i did but i didnt see anything that would aid in my issue
[22:26] <edbian> whorush: Sometimes the killswitches are really weird though.  The card is off but it isn't and one cards off is different than another so it's difficult to program the kernel to handel killswitches for different laptops and different cards
[22:26] <whorush> edbian, when i say "sudo ifup wlan0", it says "interface wlan0 already configured"
[22:26] <bucky> MrUnagi, i guess you're out of luck
[22:26] <edbian> whorush: That is higher level than we're talking.
[22:26] <MrUnagi> bucky: i guess so
[22:26] <edbian> whorush: is this all cli?
[22:26] <bucky> MrUnagi, do you have something against regular ssh ?
[22:26] <magicianlord> cli is the best
[22:27] <MrUnagi> bucky: can you mount ssh like a disk
[22:27] <whorush> edbian, i think it's the kill switch, this happened before and there was some simple command that turned the kill switch back on, i can't remember what it was.
[22:27] <whorush> edbian, cli?
[22:27] <edbian> whorush: command line interface only
[22:27] <edbian> whorush: cli = command line interface
[22:28] <whorush> edbian, yeah, i'm using the command line
[22:28] <edbian> whorush: The command you're thinking off was probably the command to insert the module.  Does lspci list what modules are avaiable for the card?  (modules or drivers)?
[22:28] <bucky> MrUnagi, look into putty... maybe that will work
[22:28] <edbian> whorush: Are you only able to use the command line?
[22:28] <magicianlord> is there an ubuntu "cute" edition?
[22:28] <magicianlord> like with cute things
[22:28] <bucky> magicianlord, like the Hello Kitty Edition
[22:28] <edbian> magicianlord: You're kidding right?
[22:29] <mrdirtft> hi?
[22:29] <bucky> get out your pink guitar
[22:29] <whorush> edbian, no i can use the whoel thing
[22:29] <edbian> mrdirtft: hello
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> scottj:  ive rarely had to worry aout anything other then the video card drivers. Perhaps wireless card.
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> scottj:  everything else has always gotten auto detected/setup
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> whorush:  Ive also had issues with wireless killswitches.. one laptop. if i accidently hit the switch in linux. i have to reboot to windows to trun it back on via the switch. :( so i taped over the switch. :)
[22:29] <FloodBot1> Dr_Willis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:29] <edbian> whorush: ok good. Does lspci list any modules or drivers for your card?
[22:29] <alfred_> Happy New Year
[22:29] <whorush> edbian, dr_willis, exactly
[22:29] <rumpe1> magicianlord, i remember to have seen a hannah montana ubuntu edition...
[22:29] <edbian> Dr_Willis: You got in trouble!
[22:29] <magicianlord> bucky: yes, or power puff girls
[22:29] <bucky> absolutely
[22:29] <magicianlord> rumpe1: cool
[22:30] <whorush> edbian, atheros 5001
[22:30] <whorush> edbian, that's what you're talking about?
[22:30] <alfred_> How to activate the disk encryption to ask me to input the pass to boot ?
[22:30] <edbian> whorush: I think so hang on
[22:30] <mrdirtft> what is the command for registering nick name?
[22:30] <edbian> whorush: imma google
[22:30] <Dr_Willis> mrdirtft:   /msg nickserv help
[22:30] <magicianlord> mrdirtft: useadd or adduser
[22:30] <magicianlord> user
[22:30] <alfred_> I mean, how to make Laptop ask me to input the encryption key before booting
[22:31] <edbian> whorush: try this: sudo modprobe ath5k
[22:31] <solo_> HI! We have new year 2011!!!
[22:31] <edbian> whorush: I think that's the correct name of the module
[22:32] <whorush> edbian, ok, restart?
[22:32] <edbian> whorush: sudo iwconfig
[22:32] <edbian> whorush: Is the card listed in that output?
[22:33] <mrdirtft> so i tried /nickserv register mrdirtft
[22:33] <mrdirtft> but it doesnt work
[22:33] <bucky> solo_, in soviet russia... 2011 have you!
[22:33] <whorush> edbian, it is and always was, but it wasnt listed in ifconfig, and it still isnt
[22:34] <edbian> whorush: inserting the module should not require a restart.  it's listed in iwconfig but not ifconfig?
[22:34] <Dr_Willis> !register | mrdirtft
[22:34] <whorush> edbian, yes that's right, and it was the same before
[22:34] <[thor]> is it safe to delete old .deb files in /var/cache/apt/archives ?
[22:35] <rumpe1> [thor], yes
[22:35] <edbian> whorush: Did the modprobe command give any errors?
[22:35] <Dr_Willis> [thor]:  theres an apt command that can auto remove them
[22:35] <solo_> Hello! I first time here and have question about wifi connect
[22:35] <delinquentme> is this "TeamViewer" the best option for networking between ubuntu boxes over the internet?
[22:35] <bucky> [thor], yes with sudo aptitude clean
[22:35] <whorush> edbian, no it seemed to work, no errors
[22:35] <magicianlord> is setting noatime on ext2 worthwhile?
[22:35] <mrdirtft> you guys are awesome. i got it!! =).. HAPPY NEW YEAR.
[22:35] <whorush> edbian, i guess thats good?  :-)
[22:36] <Dr_Willis> delinquentme:  its a way to 'share the desktops' but thats not quite the same as 'networking'
[22:36] <edbian> whorush: Restart just to see what happens
[22:36] <Dr_Willis> delinquentme:  you could just ssh to the remote box and access it..
[22:36] <edbian> whorush: Well, good that we had no errors.  Bad that it didn't fix the problem.
[22:36] <delinquentme> Dr_Willis, yeah! that sounds more like what im after
[22:36] <whorush> edbian, ok, will do, brb, thanks!
[22:36] <bucky> [thor], there's a setting for it in synaptic somewhere too
[22:36] <[thor]> rumpe1 / Dr_Willis / bucky : thank-you
[22:36] <delinquentme> i supposed a google search would teach me that :D thanks!
[22:36] <solo_> please help to me
[22:36] <Autie> Happy New Year channel!
[22:37] <soreau> ! ask | solo_
[22:37] <delinquentme> Dr_Willis, could i PRACTICE SSHing to my localhost?
[22:37] <JPeterson> how do I allow a palindrome password?
[22:37] <JPeterson> can i remove the password policy entirely from common-password?
[22:38] <solo_> I have Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY but it don't work on my Ubuntu 10.10
[22:38] <edbian> solo_: Plug the computer into the internet using an ethernet cable.  Install the fwcutter package.  restart
[22:39] <delinquentme> Dr_Willis, or even better if theres an open SSH server out there which lets people practice on?
[22:39] <magicianlord> solo_: download driver from broadcom.com. linux sta driver, compile and follow steps. then, once connected to a wifi network, install the broadcom drivers from hardware jockey, so they are done automatically
[22:40] <bucky> solo_, do you have linux-firmware-nonfree installed ?
[22:40] <JPeterson> ok, i just changed the password as root
[22:41] <bucky> solo_, also when you do install it check this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10058197
[22:41] <Maddog420> fedora core will not let me install yum install mysql mysql-server
[22:41] <jpds> Maddog420: Try #fedora
[22:41] <bucky> Maddog420, that's why everybody went to ubuntu
[22:42] <solo_> I tried drivers (Additional Drivers) 1- Broadcom B43 wrieless driver and 2-Broadcom STA wireless driver  - it doesn't work on my laptop HP 4720s
[22:42] <magicianlord> solo_: ok man. try the online driver
[22:42] <edbian> solo_: You need to be connected to the net when you install those drivers.  They download firmware from the internet
[22:43] <whorush> edbian, hello?
[22:43] <bucky> Maddog420, maybe it's because mysql is owned by oracle now... *shrug*
[22:43] <edbian> whorush: hi
[22:43] <whorush> edbian, hey, no dice
[22:44] <edbian> whorush: Sorry to hear that
[22:44] <edbian> whorush: I have to go now though :( good luck!
[22:44] <whorush> edbian, wacky kill switch! thanks for trying!
[22:44] <bucky> Maddog420, there should be some yum repo that has it
[22:44] <whorush> dr_willis, any idea about those kill swtiches?
[22:45] <solo_> I installed the drivers from net by eth0
[22:46] <Galaxor> Hi.  I have hal running because I want to use ivman.  Now, the ivman actions aren't firing.  I'd like to understand what is going on in hal's mind.  What log should I be looking in?
[22:46] <soreau> ! broadcom | solo_
[22:48] <Maddog420> has what thanks for for the answer
[22:48] <bucky> Galaxor, maybe something in /var/log ?
[22:48] <Galaxor> It seems I'm also running the default udevd.  Could they be conflicting with one another?
[22:48] <bucky> Galaxor, what operating system are you running?
[22:49] <Galaxor> bucky: 10.04
[22:49] <bucky> hmm..
[22:49] <Galaxor> bucky: ubuntu server edition 10.04
[22:50] <Galaxor> bucky: Oh, I found the hal logs in /var/log/messages
[22:50] <whorush> my wireless isnt working after i hit the physical kill switch button on my laptop, i had this problem before, but i cant remember how i solved it.  i think theres some way to trick the kill swtich and get it to turn the wireless back on?
[22:50] <gjm> geeks -.-
[22:50] <magicianlord> what is the difference between ubuntu server editio nand desktop
[22:51] <Galaxor> bucky: I see this: Sense: Read of scrambled sector without authentication
[22:51] <bluezone> gjm, you do know you are on freenode right?
[22:51] <solo_> Also I tried driwers from windows by     Ndiswrapper but it also false.
[22:51] <gjm> whorush: can you show a picture?
[22:51] <gjm> bluezone: yes
[22:51] <whorush> gjm, a picture?
[22:52] <bluezone> gjm, okay :)
[22:52] <gjm> whorush: of switch
[22:52] <gjm> whorush: maybe i can help
[22:52] <Galaxor> bucky: Now, I have dvdread and dvdcss, and I can use handbrake to read the dvds.  Does - like - hal need to have dvdcss support or something?
[22:52] <tamaros> what command can I type in the console to discover what type of webcam is built into my laptop?
[22:52] <bucky> Galaxor, "Read of scrambled sector without authentication" indicates that dvdcss is not properly installed
[22:53] <gjm> whorush: sorry, photo ;)
[22:53] <bucky> Galaxor, get it with synaptic
[22:53] <Galaxor> bucky: Hm.  I installed the one from medibuntu.
[22:53] <whorush> gjm, thanks, i don't have a camera or anything, but its a button above my keyboard on my compaq laptop that is to the right of my power button.  it's blue, but it should be flashing orange and blue
[22:54] <Galaxor> bucky: I have 1.2.10-0.3medibuntu1, according to dpkg -l '*dvdcss*'
[22:54] <whorush> gjm, there's some command that fools the kill switch into letting my wireless work :-)
[22:54] <whorush> gjm, this happeend before
[22:54] <bucky> hmm.. dunno
[22:54] <Galaxor> bucky: Should I use the one from /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh instead?
[22:56] <fractal_heart> there doesn't seem to be /proc/bus/usb in my 10.10 and as a result virtualbox can't do usb pass through...how do I mount usbfs?
[22:58] <Galaxor> bucky: Hm.  I ran the install-css.sh script, and it just installed 1.2.10-0.3medibuntu1 again.  No change to hal's behavior.
[22:59] <bucky> Galaxor, hal might need to be restarted ?
[22:59] <icesword> hi
[23:00] <bucky> fractal_heart, VirtualBox 4.0 ? Did you install Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-4.0.0-69151.vbox-extpack into VB?
[23:00] <fractal_heart> bucky, I did
[23:00] <bucky> hmm.. dunno
[23:00] <fractal_heart> bucky, otherwise, there'd be a warning about usb2 not supported
[23:01] <zs1otb1> Hi, I have upgraded to 10.04 and now my movie players does not show video but only audio. What can be the mattter?
[23:01] <Firartix> first aamsg ever, please excuse me, and btw, happy new year :o
[23:01] <gjm> Happy New Year
[23:01] <zs1otb1> Happy 2011
[23:02] <magicianlord> zs1otb1: use computer janitor
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> zs1otb1:  sounds ike a tyical 'cant figure out/need video codec' issue
[23:02] <aliendude5300> Hi, trying to help a friend of mine switch to ubuntu, but they have very specialized software they need to work. In particular, they have a windows machine running a video surveillance server, that monitors 4 video cameras at once, indexes frames where motion is detected, and stores the indexed frames on the hard drive, acting somewhat as a DVR. They want to switch to Ubuntu, but they need this software to work for th
[23:02] <aliendude5300> em, and I would like to know if anyone knows of a native Linux alternative to this.
[23:02] <KM0201> fractal_heart: are you usig the open source edition, or did you add the oracle repository, and install from there?
[23:03] <zs1otb1> I have installed the dvd libs but still no luck
[23:03] <Phoul> I seem to recall gnome used to have a feature that allowed you to set enforced "breaks" that would every x amount of minuits of w/e lock the screen or somesuch, does anyone know where i could find this or if it still exists
[23:03] <Phoul> or if im just nuts
[23:03] <zs1otb1> magicianlord: what is computer janitor
[23:03] <magicianlord> Phoul: it does
[23:03] <Phoul> Where is it?...
[23:03] <KM0201> aliendude5300: that would really take some looking into.. are you wanting to wach the videos it stores, or watch 'live'
[23:04] <magicianlord> zs1otb1: it is a program in the system menu that cleans up issues when you upgrade
[23:04] <Phoul> I remember seeing it, and now my physiotherapist says i need somethin like that, i found workrave except thats not really the same thing.
[23:04] <zs1otb1> sorry I'm stupid, kindly help how to run it
[23:04] <aliendude5300> KM0201: they want to be able to watch it live and retrieve the videos later.
[23:04] <KM0201> aliendude5300: hmm.
[23:05] <KM0201> aliendude5300: that will require some significant investigation on your part.
[23:05] <Galaxor> bucky: Restarted hal; no change.
[23:05] <aliendude5300> KM0201: I couldn't think of any open-source alternatives so I figured I'd ask on IRC.
[23:06] <Phoul> magicianlord, any idea where it is?
[23:06] <magicianlord> zs1otb1: press ALT+F2, then when the window computer up, type in computer-janitor-gtk and press enter
[23:06] <magicianlord> comes up
[23:06] <aliendude5300> zoneminder might do what they need but I'm not sure if it will work...
[23:07] <Phoul> ...
[23:07] <avis> 8:36 here
[23:07] <szaboi> where?
[23:07] <aliendude5300> It doesn't have to be free, just inexpensive and it needs to work with Ubuntu with minimal work required to set it up.
[23:07] <Galaxor> aliendude5300: Sometimes I use a website called osalt.com, if I have a some commercial software in mind that I want an open-source alternative for.
[23:08] <zs1otb1> it says must run as root.
[23:08] <Kottizen> happy new year!
[23:08] <avis> happy new years ubuntians :)
[23:08] <bucky> aliendude5300, there was a tutorial on linuxhomepage.com recently about using the program called motion
[23:09] <magicianlord> happy new years
[23:09] <magicianlord> one step closer to death
[23:09] <soreau> zs1otb1: Prefix with gksu like this: gksu computer-janitor-gtk
[23:09] <bucky> aliendude5300, it's in the repos
[23:09] <zs1otb1> ok its running, now what must I look for
[23:09] <avis> o/~ the blood of christ, for the beat of my heart
[23:09] <blud> hey guys, i'm trying to get my ati remote wonder working in mythbuntu..
[23:10] <blud> i found a page that says you should "use the ati_remote driver" but i dont know how to do that
[23:10] <soreau> blud: Does 'modinfo ati_remote' show anything?
[23:11] <blud> i can go check
[23:11] <magicianlord> does mark shuttleworth sign off final approvals on the ubuntu iso before it's released onto the internet?
[23:11] <Galaxor> bucky: I seem to have no problem mounting /dev/sr0.  It just looks like hal isn't firing the right signal or something.  Maybe it's an ivman problem.
[23:11] <zs1otb1> soreau: i have it running, what now? what must I look for
[23:12] <avis> Mr. Shuttleworth i believe only plays a certain role in ubuntu
[23:12] <soreau> zs1otb1: U wasn't the one telling you to run that program, I was just showing an easy way to run it
[23:12] <magicianlord> avis: what role
[23:12] <solo_> Tell me please how I can activate WiFi on laptop HP 4720s if non-free drivers Broadcom B43 and Broadcom STA don't work proper way
[23:12] <avis> http:www.markshuttleworth.com
[23:12] <nawk> Happy new year #Ubuntu
[23:12] <zs1otb1> o thanks
[23:12] <avis> you'll get it
[23:12] <soreau> solo_: What isn't working specifically?
[23:13] <magicianlord> solo_: wired connection, or new laptop
[23:13] <nawk> I need help with my LIVEUSB.  Basically I have Ubuntu 10.10 iso burnt onto my usb and its working.
[23:13] <magicianlord> nawk: what
[23:13] <nawk> what I need help with is to resize the aufs (another unionfs) that the LIVECD creates
[23:13] <nawk> I want to be able to make it bigger
[23:13] <zs1otb1>  magicianlord: I have the janitor running, what must I look for?
[23:13] <magicianlord> nawk: disk utility or gparted from the menus
[23:13] <nawk> after the LIVECD is loaded, there's practically only 5 MBs left
[23:13] <magicianlord> zs1otb1: i dont know. you have to use your judgement. maybe fix all
[23:14] <magicianlord> or google it
[23:14] <magicianlord> nawk: 5mb of what
[23:14] <nawk> free space
[23:14] <blud> soreau: modinfo ati_remote shows a bunch of stuff, shows the file path and name, alias stuff, a page of stuff
[23:14] <soreau> blud: You can use 'lsmod|grep remote' to see if it's loaded and 'sudo modprobe ati_remote' to load the module
[23:14] <zs1otb1> magicianlord:  ok so whatever is listed there might be a problem?
[23:14] <magicianlord> free space of whta
[23:14] <magicianlord> zs1otb1: maybe. buti havent used it myself
[23:14] <solo_> I have wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 78:e4:00:68:58:bd
[23:14] <solo_>           BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[23:14] <solo_>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[23:14] <solo_>           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[23:14] <solo_>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[23:14] <FloodBot1> solo_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:14] <solo_>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
[23:15] <zs1otb1> ok
[23:15] <soreau> blud: If it works, add ati_remote to /etc/modules to have it loaded  permanently at boot time
[23:15] <Maahes> anyone know how to enable javascript in links2?
[23:16] <magicianlord> zshen: i always just do a clean install
[23:16] <Maahes> or well: have it work?
[23:16] <soreau> solo_: So you have wlan0. Can you see wifi networks from the output of 'sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i ssid' ?
[23:16] <bucky> soreau, he don't have no IP addy ?
[23:16] <solo_> wicd and network manager don't work with wifi
[23:17] <magicianlord> solo_: theyshould
[23:18] <magicianlord> solo_: maybe network manager is just pointing to the wrong interface name, like wlan0 or eth1
[23:19] <nawk> I was told that I need to expand the initramfs that's loaded from the USB and play around with some init script
[23:19] <nawk> can someone please point me in the right direction/directory
[23:19] <Saladin> hello all
[23:19] <magicianlord> nawk: what is the size of the computer's hard drive
[23:20] <blud> soreau: lsmod|grep remote comes up with nothing, so I did sudo modprobe ati_remote, and it says "Warning: all config files need .conf" and path to the file lirc, then another warning to the file lirc-blacklist. Is that anything I need to care about?
[23:20] <nawk> magicianlord: I'm with with a LIVEUSB here
[23:20] <Saladin> i have question about skype on ubuntu wheather it works or not?   as just getting back into ubunut
[23:20] <soreau> blud: Not sure, I haven't used this module before
[23:21] <nawk> dealing with*
[23:21] <Dr_Willis> Saladin:  it works..
[23:21] <Dr_Willis> !skype
[23:21] <soreau> blud: Check the output of 'dmesg' and look at the last few lines for more information
[23:21] <Datz> hi, I have a problem with the video output on my laptop. I get a wavy screen. I adjusted the refresh rate from 60 to 75, and the oscillation gets faster
[23:21] <Saladin> ahh yea ok ... now with that i am going to be using netbook edition does that still apply for the 10.10 or still 10.04?
[23:21] <Datz> there are only two refresh rates, can I somehow play with others?
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> Datz:  what brand/make/model laptop. and what sort of monitor is it connected to?
[23:22] <Datz> Dr_Willis: a Dell Inspiron E1505
[23:22] <Datz> and the monitor is Acer AL1917
[23:22] <rooks> yay, happy newyear and Szczęśliwego Nowego Roku, lets make this one go to eleven!! :D
[23:22] <blud> soreau: Yeah im not too worried about the warning since the remote works now :p   Anyhow, how do I add ati_remote to /etc/modules ?  Are you saying to copy the file ati_remote into the folder /etc/modules/ ?
[23:23] <Dr_Willis> Datz:  lcd? or CRT?
[23:23] <Datz> Dr_Willis: LCD
[23:23] <foolhardy> is there a certain distro of ubuntu that has the desktop environment but doesn't have all the extra stuff with it like evolution mail and shotwell and pitivi and all that, just a clean slim desktop install?
[23:23] <Datz> Dr_Willis: also, windows boots without this problem
[23:23] <magicianlord> blud: copy it there, and then run sudo depmod -a
[23:23] <soreau> blud: No, modules should be a text file. These modules will be loaded by default in the order that they are in the file
[23:24] <magicianlord> foolhardy: ubuntu alternate install iso, from which you install command-line system, then build around it
[23:24] <blud> oh so just open the file and add the line "ati_remote" yes?
[23:24] <soreau> blud: Right
[23:24] <magicianlord> foolhardy: or download crunchbang, which is based on debian and openbox
[23:24] <Datz> Dr_Willis: the problem is with the separate monitor only.
[23:24] <Datz> Dr_Willis: it is through a KVM switch
[23:24] <foolhardy> magicianlord, thanksfor the info, but I'm not proficient with the CLI
[23:24] <foolhardy> although I do need it to be ubuntu, since I need it to run xbmc
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> Datz:  You did try it without the KVM switch?
[23:25] <foolhardy> I guess I could just get the full desktop and then unintsall everything
[23:25] <smw> foolhardy, xbmc runs on windows
[23:25] <ubuntunoobz> hello happy new year and i need some help, i have a dell d600 with ubuntu 10.10 on it and a sprint air card. i use the air card for internet and i also setup a network that all of us can log in to. its great but after an hour or a day i get a black screen ,no internet, non responsive, computer with 2 lights flashing
[23:25] <Datz> Dr_Willis: no, I haven't... I guess I didn't because windows doesn't have that problem through the switch. I can try it though
[23:25] <magicianlord> foolhardy: suggest you try linux mint. they customize that.
[23:25] <foolhardy> smw, I'm using ubuntu, not windows
[23:26] <ubuntunoobz> any help?
[23:26] <foolhardy> magicianlord, I'll check it out, thanks a lot
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> Datz:  its just trouble shooting 101. could be somthing the kvm is doing to the signal from linux. I dont use kvm's - too many issues.
[23:26] <magicianlord> foolhardy: i just uninstall the bloat in ubuntu. or i install from base
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> foolhardy:  theres dozens of ubuntu variants..  it all depends on how much work you want to do.
[23:26] <soreau> ubuntunoobz: That is a kernel panic. Typically, it is caused by a faulty driver module
[23:26] <foolhardy> is there a centralized list of all these variants? Dr_Willis
[23:26] <solo_> soreau:'sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i ssid'I have ESSID:"dd-wrt"
[23:27] <magicianlord> sudo apt-get purge rhythmbox, gnome-games-common, tomboy, example-content, totem, totem-common, ubuntu-one-client. then install vlc
[23:27] <Datz> Dr_Willis: problem still there
[23:27] <ubuntunoobz> what driver?
[23:27] <Saladin> looking for someone familer with acer aspire one zg5 as tring to get ideas on what i should look into for putting on it.. 10.10 netbook or 10.04 netbook?
[23:27] <ubuntunoobz> everything on the laptop is pug and play, it all works out of the box
[23:27] <linux_probe> plug-n-pray :-P
[23:27] <soreau> solo_: Ok so you can see an AP which means you just have to connect. What type of encryption do you have?
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> foolhardy:  other then google.. :) or disrto watch.. not that ive seen.
[23:27] <magicianlord> Saladin: use desktop 10.10. do not install netbook edition
[23:27] <magicianlord> netbook edition is limiting
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> foolhardy:  new ones pop up every other week. that Pinguy one seems popular.
[23:27] <foolhardy> I'll check out distro watch, thanks for the heads up
[23:28] <alfred> can someone help me how to install openoffice 3.3 I downloaded it to my laptop
[23:28] <Saladin> if i install desktop vs netbook will it slow down?
[23:28] <Dr_Willis> Datz:  what chipset is the video on the laptop?
[23:28] <magicianlord> Saladin: desktop is faster
[23:28] <Dr_Willis> Saladin:  not to any noticeable degree on most hardware
[23:28] <Datz> Dr_Willis: I'll have to check
[23:28] <Saladin> *on webchat irc as i don't have irc on this pc*
[23:29] <solo_> soreau: But the B43 works no stability (now I have open net) and now I get IP by wlan0
[23:29] <alfred> how to install openoffice 3.3
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> !info openoffice
[23:29] <Saladin> ok so install desktop on it and skype will also be easier to install then?
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> alfred:  if that version is not in the repos.. look for a PPA.
[23:30] <alfred> Dr_Willis, PPA ?
[23:30] <alfred> Dr_Willis,  I am new
[23:30] <smw> Saladin, you do not need ubuntu-desktop for skype
[23:30] <smw> !skype | Saladin
[23:30] <shigeo> i have a KVM switch which doesn't support EDID data (plug n play monitor recognition). my ubuntu desktop is now at a resolution of 800x600. I googled around and it looks like i have to use a xorg.conf to force my resolution. there are a lot of xorg.conf examples, but is there a way to help me set up a xorg.conf? the best would be to have a "minimal" xorg.conf with only monitor and screen resolution specified, would then keyboard/mouse etc
[23:30] <shigeo> . still work via HAL? appreciate your opinion.
[23:30] <magicianlord> Saladin: the same software works on both. the netbook version just uses a different frontend.
[23:31] <Dr_Willis> alfred:   You dont like the Openoffice that comes  by default?
[23:31] <alfred> Dr_Willis, I like the new version beta 3.3
[23:31] <Saladin> ohh yea i have went threw that:)  just making it easier .. i am used to desktop to install and such:)
[23:31] <Dr_Willis> !ppa | alfred
[23:31] <magicianlord> shigeo: modern cards do not need xorg.conf. what is your video card
[23:31] <Saladin> kinda fell off the bike on ubuntu so have to get learning how to reride the bike:)
[23:31] <solo_> Yesterday, out of 20 attempts to connect only one was successful
[23:31] <blud> what text editor would you guys recommend, apparently Mthybuntu isn't preloaded with one lol
[23:31] <magicianlord> Saladin: just install 10.10 desktop, update, and install vlc
[23:32] <Datz> Dr_Willis: ok.. I'm unsure of how to find the chipset, could you point me in the right direction?
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> Datz:  'lspci' command, and you may want to run the system -> admin -> addational drivers tool
[23:33] <alfred> Dr_Willis, I downloaded the package, it is now in my local drive, how to install it ?
[23:33] <Datz> thanks Dr_Willis
[23:33] <magicianlord> double click it
[23:33] <shigeo> magicianlord, i will probably have to use xorg.conf because i need to override the automatic settings. it's an integrated video card, capable of VESA modes. (compare www.pcengines.ch).
[23:33] <alfred> Dr_Willis, I mean the command to install it if you know it
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> blud:  it proberly has nano and vi. theres always gedit and geany or a dozen others.
[23:33] <jeaton> im wanting to stream movies from ubuntu to my ps3, any recommended apps?
[23:33] <blud> yeah i will try gedit,  i forget all the commands in vi :|
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> alfred:  i doubt if you want to install an openoffice package you downlaoded.. what was the exact file name you downloaded.
[23:34] <alfred> Dr_Willis, OOo_3.3.0rc8_20101214_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz
[23:34] <solo_> soreau: Thanks for the help with the new year. Have you already had a new year?
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> alfred:  that method is sort of 'windows' thinking...
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> alfred:  extract it - thats an archive.. see whats in the dir it creates
[23:34] <Datz> Dr_Willis: is this what I'm looking for? AMD Radeon Mobility X1400
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> alfred:  dont be too suprised if it dosent work.
[23:34] <magicianlord> yes
[23:34] <alfred> yes I extracted it
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> Datz:  looks like it..
[23:35] <alfred> but it doesn t work :)
[23:35] <magicianlord> radeon mobility should work iwth opensource ati driver
[23:35] <Dr_Willis> Datz:  does the addational drivers tool suggest any drivers?
[23:35] <alfred> Dr_Willis, how to make it executable ?
[23:35] <Datz> Dr_Willis: I have them loaded I think already
[23:35] <Dr_Willis> alfred:  it should have extraced to a dir. with a lot of extutables  in it im guessing.. i dont use that.. never have.. dont plan on trying it any time soon.
[23:35] <magicianlord> goodnight
[23:36] <Dr_Willis> alfred:  check the docs/readme files in the archive
[23:36] <Dr_Willis> alfred:  i suggest looking for a PPA , or using the OO thats in the repos.
[23:36] <alfred> ok Dr_Willis  but what was the command to install .deb package ?
[23:36] <Datz> Dr_Willis: No proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[23:37] <Datz> I thought I had enabled the audio driver before, but I guess nothing is listed now
[23:37] <Datz> opps, video
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> alfred:  sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> !apt | alfred
[23:37] <samantha-> i'm doing an expert install from a usb stick. trying to partition. i can set the usb stick as "do not use" for mount point, and so it is not bootable. when i try to set sdb1 as bootable (the hdd), it won't set. what am i doing wrong?
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> alfred:  double clicking on a .deb should work
[23:37] <blud> so i guess i need to make my modules file not read only, then edit it, then make it read only again??
[23:38] <Dr_Willis> samantha-:  i dont even think linux uses/needs the bootable flag..
[23:38] <Dr_Willis> blud:  you edit system files as the root user normally. sudo nano /path/to/file
[23:38] <samantha-> Dr_Willis, on my last install attempt, the installer set it up so that booting off the usb drive booted into the system, but the hdd wouldn't boot. this is obviously suboptimal.
[23:38] <soreau> solo_: Depending on the encryption type, there are different ways to connect using iwconfig and dhclient
[23:39] <alfred> Dr_Willis, YES, done like this sudo -i dpkg *.deb and I am installing all the package
[23:39] <soreau> solo_: It is new years here in a few hours. Have a good time
[23:39] <Dr_Willis> alfred:  all what packages?
[23:39] <alfred> Dr_Willis, the openoffice 3.3
[23:39] <soreau> blud: It should be as simple as 'gksu gedit /etc/modules'
[23:39] <Dr_Willis> alfred:  then why did you try that tar.gz one?
[23:39] <zs1otb2> it is new year already here in Africa
[23:39] <looperop> i need help with the drivers Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
[23:40] <soreau> blud: You shouldn't need to change permissions for anything in /etc
[23:40] <zs1otb2> hi I need help with movie player and vlc player
[23:40] <alfred> Dr_Willis, it did not work, then I extract it, and CD to the folder where the .deb situated with the dpkg done the installation
[23:40] <Datz> Dr_Willis: any suggestions?
[23:40] <Datz> I can't find much searching
[23:41] <alfred> Dr_Willis,  the word, math etc...
[23:41] <Datz> Dr_Willis: when I pop into a tty, the problem still exists
[23:41] <Dr_Willis> Datz:  im out of ideas. unless you want to be brave with the xvidtune, or ati control panel tools.
[23:42] <Dr_Willis> Datz:  I had a netbook with a similer issue. it needed a bios update.. but it even had the issue in the BIOS screens.
[23:42] <jon8> Hey guys.. Whats the absolute easiest way to share (over LAN) my windows 7 PC directories and my Ubuntu direcotries
[23:42] <samantha-> jon8: samba.
[23:42] <soreau> ! samba | jon8
[23:42] <jon8> thanks :)
[23:42] <Dr_Willis> jon8:  ubuntu should be able to access the shared directories. BUT win7 with that 'windows live sign on assistant' installed. can have issues.
[23:42] <Datz> Dr_Willis: ah, I see.. I'm on 10.04.. could a new kernal help, should I update to 10.10?
[23:42] <Dr_Willis> Datz:  i would test with a 10.10 live cd and see.
[23:43] <Datz> Dr_Willis: ah, good idea
[23:43] <soreau> Datz: What are you trying to do?
[23:43] <shigeo> samantha-: is sdb1 on your usb stick?
[23:43] <Saladin> has anyone dealt with teamviewer on ubuntu?
[23:43] <Saladin> !teamviewer
[23:43] <Emerling> hi
[23:43] <Emerling>  i live
[23:44] <Datz> soreau: I have a rapitly oscillating screen throught the output from my laptop to external monitor
[23:44] <lighta> I did Saladin
[23:44] <Datz> rapidly*
[23:44] <lighta> what u wanna know ?
[23:44] <Saladin> lighta: how did it go?  easy to install ?
[23:44] <alfred> Dr_Willis,  Thank you for the support, now everything is fine :)
[23:45] <Datz> I'll just stick to windows in this environment :p
[23:45] <kyan> How could I make krusader the default file manager? I tried suggestions at http://groups.google.com/group/krusader-devel/browse_thread/thread/8209d785d3ba0ac6 but it did not work.
[23:45] <soreau> Datz: Ah yes, definitely do not use the proprietary/catalyst driver or control center - it no longer supports your card. Instead, get the latest kernel you can and use the radeon driver (working by default)
[23:45] <konam> ok, i deleted something on ubuntu 10.10 as root because some files where owned by him. the thing is the folder got deleted incredibly fast and i know it sent it to some trash folder that i can't find. the free space didn't change after i deleted the folder
[23:45] <lighta> yes, was in a .deb package so quite easy but last time I try to run it I wasn't on the same version as a windows one
[23:45] <konam> can someone tell me where this file could be?
[23:45] <lighta> so there were trouble here
[23:45] <konam> apparently it's not on the same place it was on earlier versions
[23:45] <soreau> Datz: If you want even better 3D, you can also install xorg-edgers repo and the gallium driver
[23:45] <Datz> soreau: ah, thanks. I'll try the 10.10 live cd then , thanks
[23:45] <solo_> soreau: I try to run the WiFi on the HP 4720s. After installing Broadkom 43 network lan0 appears at 2 minutes and lost for ever. How to make a stable connection? WiCD not find the network and does not issue an IP address.
[23:46] <Saladin> ahh ok i apprecaiate it lighta so simple to use just like windows verion:)  thnx appreaicate
[23:46] <soreau> solo_: The interface disappears?
[23:46] <IAcceptEverythin> I am an extension of myself.  A seedling in the root of a problematic being known as existence. Virtually, in the world of computing I can find Ubuntu. I am less transient then the operating system. I am emptied out from the void into the distant mist. Your eyes. The eyes of the people and users of Ubuntu do not know the echo. Please help me ubuntu. I am alone in the wrong part of the hemisphere. and i do not mean globally.
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> alfred:  i would not be suprised if somthing you did breaks badly.. good luck..
[23:46] <lighta> yes Saladin just like windows, last version isn'k in package yet from last time I check, but you can still run it trought wine
[23:47] <solo_> soreau: wlan0 exsist but doesn't work
[23:47] <andrew__> any one trie dubuntu 11 alpha ?
[23:47] <alfred> Dr_Willis, not at all, now I am running the Openoffice 3.3
[23:47] <soreau> ! work | solo_
[23:47] <Saladin> i will install 10.10 desktop on acer aspire one zg5 .. update .. install vlc.. install teamveiwer.. install skype then tada all done I HOPE  although there was a forum post that i went by to install all my stuff can i post it here and it is outdated but will it still work?
[23:47] <samantha-> shigeo: no, the usb stick is mounting as sda1. sdb1 is the hard drive.
[23:47] <alfred> Dr_Willis, it is better because it has this dictionary synonym etc..
[23:48] <blud> well, i added ait_remote to my modules file, and now when I boot up it loads mythtv automatically (like it always did) and when I try to exit mythtv the machine locks up :|
[23:48] <blud> sry "ati_remote"
[23:49] <soreau> blud: A machine lockup points to a driver issue, more likely than not, with ati_remote. Might have to find out who coded that module and file a bug
[23:49] <IAcceptEverythin> Intensionally speaking, it is more dangerous to think you hear sounds and see the sight of what you heard than to actually have it happen. So I ask again where is the ubuntu software to cure me
[23:50] <shigeo> samantha-, have you set the bootable flag on your hard disk? how does booting off the usb stick work?
[23:50] <IAcceptEverythin> you aren't crazy. you just use ubuntu
[23:50] <soreau> blud: Confirm it is ati_remote by unloading the module before exiting mythtv 'sudo rmmod ati_remote'
[23:50] <Saladin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683  <-- stil apply to the 10.10 version then not just older ones?
[23:51] <necroforest> So, I have the Flash plugin installed, and I installed firefox 4 beta manually, but I can't get flash working in it. Any ideas?
[23:51] <konam> root trash folder on ubuntu 10.10 anyone'
[23:51] <konam> ?
[23:51] <Dr_Willis_> !trash
[23:51] <samantha-> shiego: i'm unable to set the bootable flag on the hard disk. i try to toggle and it resolutely stays "no." on the last install round, booting off the usb stick worked okay, except that it isn't what i wanted. (and i was unable to do a new install without rewriting the stick.)
[23:51] <Dr_Willis_> konam:  ~ in that case would be /root/
[23:51] <mrdirtft> this might sound random, but did any of you successfully install OneNote 2010 using wine?
[23:52] <Dr_Willis_> konam:  so /root/.local/share/Trash
[23:53] <konam> /root/.local doesn't exist Dr_Willis_
[23:53] <konam> not on ubuntu 10.10 anyways
[23:54] <Dr_Willis_> konam:  normally nothing is done in the /root/ users dir.. so i would suggest looking in the users dir you did the 'sudo' change to root with
[23:54] <marcusdavidus> how a fuck turn of this stupic xchatc tos top eahc time fucking log in t0o this channel
[23:54] <marcusdavidus>  jesu fuckng christ
[23:54] <marcusdavidus> cannot hash out freenode
[23:54] <marcusdavidus>  wtf
[23:55] <blud> soreau: perhaps I will, but what i just tested was alt tabbing from mythtv before trying to exit it. Everything seems fine, I can launch other programs and move the cursor with my ati remote and stuff. And when I shut down mythtv it froze but the rest of the computer didn't.  So before I think it was only mythtv freezing but whilst in mythtv i couldnt get the computer to do anything else,
[23:55] <Dr_Willis_> and this is how to not get help on irc marcusdavidus...
[23:55] <konam> Dr_Willis_ i deleted the file from a nautilus started as root
[23:55] <blud> so this time i like did ctrl-esc or something to get the menu to launch another program
[23:55] <Dr_Willis_> konam:  and it may be in the users trash dir.
[23:55] <samantha-> marcusdavidus, go back to windows. your intelligence level demands it.
[23:55] <elky> Dr_Willis_, i can't even make out what he's wanting to do
[23:55] <Dr_Willis_> konam:  theres also 'delete' and 'move to trash' one deletes ...
[23:55] <elky> samantha-, please don't
[23:55] <blud> so basically, once I added ati_remote to the modules file, now MythTV freezes when you try to shut it off
[23:55] <marcusdavidus> hmm to gewntoo u mean
[23:56] <konam> Dr_Willis_ it's not, i just checked
[23:56] <Dr_Willis_> marcusdavidus:  if you have a ubuntu issue.. state it.. otehr wise. take it elsewhere.
[23:56] <solo_> ubottu:I get from wicd "Connection Failed: Unable to Get IP Address". wicd sees the signal and scans the network but can not connect. The network is open. The first time the connection was successful but after 2 minutes gone. When working in opensuse with native drivers such samples do not. Everything is stable and long on the same network and on the same laptop.
[23:56] <Dr_Willis_> konam:  i would assume its been deleted then. You could try the 'locate' command to see if you can find the file if you know its name
[23:56] <marcusdavidus> i dont have ubuntu isue
[23:56] <marcusdavidus>  i have fuckign irc isue
[23:56] <mrdirtft> how do i add my channels, so i don't have to type it every freaking time
[23:57] <ThomasB2k> Language please, marcusdavidus
[23:57] <Dr_Willis_> mrdirtft:  add channels where to what?
[23:57] <marcusdavidus> common  how turn this off
[23:57] <elky> marcusdavidus, then join #freenode by right-clicking on the channel name i just typed to you
[23:57] <Dr_Willis_> marcusdavidus:  turn what off?
[23:57] <play4> hi
[23:57] <mrdirtft> xchat, add channels to bookmark
[23:57] <marcusdavidus> chil
[23:57] <marcusdavidus>  eeach time
[23:57] <shigeo> marcusdavidus, try right clicking the channels or so...
[23:57] <Dr_Willis_> marcusdavidus:  yes.. you do need to chill..
[23:57] <play4> no
[23:57] <alfred> Where VirtualBox store the images ?
[23:57] <marcusdavidus>  i turn on my new hiper imba xchat in thius ubuntu
[23:58] <marcusdavidus>  itsload aut this channel
[23:58] <GeekSquid> ~/Virtualbox
[23:58] <play4> cool
[23:58] <Dr_Willis_> alfred:  /home/USERNAME/.VirtualBox/
[23:58] <shigeo> samantha-, you said you were unable to do a new install without rewriting the stick. that sound very peculiar...?
[23:58] <alfred> Dr_Willis_, thx
[23:58] <marcusdavidus> but the : atoop log in to this sserver" or thwtever chckbox
[23:58] <marcusdavidus>  is empty
[23:58] <marcusdavidus>  so is not user error
[23:58] <mrdirtft> how do i add my fav channels to bookmark??? soi dont have to type it every time
[23:59] <Dr_Willis_> mrdirtft:  check the docs for your irc client perhaps? xchat has it in the server settings dialogs.. not sure about xchat-gnome
[23:59] <marcusdavidus> pls some  ubububub guy tell me how to turn this ubudubu i love ubu irc channel crap
[23:59] <samantha-> shigeo, installing grub apparenty installs it to /dev/sda (the stick), not /dev/sdb (the hdd). so the mangled grub install prevents me from doing a fresh install fixing that.
[23:59] <konam> Dr_Willis_ for example, i just 'moved to trash' another file from a nautilus opened with gksu or whatever, it's not on my trash or in the /home/username/.local/share/Trash or in the root trash folder
[23:59] <solo_> soreau: I get from wicd "Connection Failed: Unable to Get IP Address". wicd sees the signal and scans the network but can not connect. The network is open. The first time the connection was successful but after 2 minutes gone. When working in opensuse with native drivers such samples do not. Everything is stable and long on the same network and on the same laptop.