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| now3d | Hi there. Could I ask if you would consider switching the Adobe Flash videos to be in the Ogg Theora format and use <video> tag? I looked at http://lubuntu.net/ but all the videos wouldn't play from Firefox on Ubuntu. | 17:26 |
| Timo_ | that's an interesting point you're making :) | 17:28 |
| phillw | hiyas now3d you can propose it on the mailing list, but we are running really tight for the 11.04 deadlines | 17:28 |
| phillw | now3d: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved | 17:29 |
| phillw | all contributions are welcome, and we do have some lively discussions on emails - but you will not be spammed to death and have your email inbox filled :D | 17:30 |
| needhelp | hi@all | 18:16 |
| needhelp | i installed lubuntu but in the end the pc needs to restart | 18:17 |
| needhelp | but didnt restart | 18:17 |
| needhelp | i close the pc myself | 18:17 |
| needhelp | and after i started the pc nothing works | 18:17 |
| needhelp | i cant open webbrowser | 18:17 |
| needhelp | someone can help me | 18:18 |
| now3d | phillw: ok, i will email. Do you know if i can post without being a member to lxde-list@lists.sourceforge.net ? | 18:18 |
| now3d | needhelp: what happens when you restart? Can you login ok? | 18:19 |
| needhelp | i can login | 18:19 |
| needhelp | i see the destop | 18:19 |
| needhelp | but i cant use the webbrowser and other programms | 18:20 |
| needhelp | thats the 2nd time i installed but same problem | 18:20 |
| now3d | are the other programs on the start menu? | 18:21 |
| now3d | perhaps your hard drive has errors, which prevent the install completing. | 18:22 |
| needhelp | mhh wait i need to start my pc | 18:22 |
| needhelp | ok i started it is there a opinion to repair by cd? | 18:31 |
| needhelp | my english is not so good im from germany | 18:31 |
| Yorvyk | needhelp, there isn't a repair option. What's the problem | 18:32 |
| needhelp | i installed lubuntu but in the end of the instalation it needs to restart but after 15 min the computer didnt restart | 18:34 |
| Yorvyk | now3d, I think your suggestion about the videos is a good one, if you wan'y I'll put it in the mailing list for you . | 18:34 |
| needhelp | i closed the computer myself | 18:34 |
| needhelp | and after i start computer nothing works | 18:34 |
| needhelp | i can login | 18:34 |
| needhelp | webbrowser cant start | 18:35 |
| needhelp | i can start terminal | 18:36 |
| Yorvyk | needhelp, type 'chromium-browser' in the terminal | 18:36 |
| needhelp | failed | 18:38 |
| now3d | needhelp: You could press Alt+F-key, and see if any error messages there | 18:38 |
| now3d | needhelp: Also please boot and check your drives for bad sectors: http://m.jguk.org/2007/11/check-your-filesystems.html | 18:39 |
| needhelp | after i did | 18:40 |
| needhelp | what need i do | 18:40 |
| needhelp | can i repair the system by cd or a code | 18:41 |
| needhelp | cant | 18:41 |
| Yorvyk | needhelp, did the browser start | 18:41 |
| needhelp | no ddidnt | 18:42 |
| Yorvyk | did you get any error message in the terminal | 18:43 |
| needhelp | y i did wait i trie to copy by usb stick | 18:43 |
| needhelp | cant anybody help me | 18:52 |
| needhelp | can i install firefoy | 18:52 |
| needhelp | firefox if yes how | 18:52 |
| now3d | needhelp: Did you complete fsck check on your drive? | 18:53 |
| now3d | needhelp: Did you press Alt+F-key and see any output indicating the error? | 18:53 |
| bioterror | X was broken on Natty | 18:53 |
| now3d | needhelp: I will wait for your replies on these two questions before providing further help | 18:53 |
| bioterror | upgrades fixed it | 18:53 |
| needhelp | nothing happens if i press alt+ f | 18:55 |
| now3d | Which F-Keys did you press? | 18:56 |
| needhelp | F | 18:57 |
| needhelp | ah sry i need to pres f1 or f2 or f3 | 18:57 |
| now3d | F is a "function key" see top of keyboard | 18:57 |
| needhelp | orß | 18:57 |
| needhelp | OR? | 18:57 |
| needhelp | what | 18:57 |
| now3d | press Ctrl+Alt+F1 etc | 18:57 |
| needhelp | i need to login? | 18:58 |
| now3d | no, just look at the error output. You can see the error from install. do not reboot manuaully | 18:58 |
| needhelp | im newbie in linux | 18:59 |
| needhelp | how i see the error output | 18:59 |
| needhelp | i need to write something? | 18:59 |
| now3d | are there any errors indicated on the different screens? | 19:05 |
| now3d | Ctrl+Alt+F8 normally should show after the install | 19:05 |
| needhelp | how i come out command display i pushed crt+alt+f1 now if i push crt+alt+f8 nothing happens | 19:08 |
| Yorvyk | ctrl+alt+f7 | 19:09 |
| needhelp | ok i pushed ctr alt f8 ther is only a _ | 19:11 |
| needhelp | what do i need to do | 19:12 |
| needhelp | only a _ is blinking | 19:14 |
| needhelp | what do i need to do | 19:14 |
| now3d | needhelp: Did you look after the install completed? Or did you reboot? | 19:20 |
| bioterror | hi sz | 19:23 |
| szczur | hi bioterror | 19:35 |
| lubuntufan | Hello, can someone tell me how many partitions to create and the size, including swap. thanks | 19:43 |
| Yorvyk | lubuntufan, you can get away with as little as 3 GiB for / | 19:44 |
| bioterror | one partition and swap | 19:45 |
| bioterror | depends what you're doing | 19:45 |
| bioterror | and how much ram | 19:45 |
| bioterror | if you're going to hibernate, then about as much SAWP as you have you RAM | 19:45 |
| bioterror | but like 2GB is okay for the swap and rest / | 19:45 |
| Yorvyk | lubuntufan, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq is as good as any expalnation of swap | 19:46 |
| lubuntufan | Thanks, Yorvyk. I have been having difficulties with teh installation. Primary HD is Win7 and I am installing to a SD Card (duped as a HD) and from a USB. It installs fine but deletes all teh partitions on the SD. | 19:46 |
| Yorvyk | lubuntufan, that depends on what you tell the installer to do | 19:48 |
| Yorvyk | lubuntufan, I always specify which partition to install to. | 19:49 |
| lubuntufan | If I try to install on a Fat32 partition on the SD, I get an error that no root file system defined. Hence chose the automated install "install along with other OSs" option. | 19:49 |
| Yorvyk | lubuntufan, it won't install on FAT32 | 19:49 |
| Yorvyk | and I wouldn't recommend a swap a partition on an SD card either | 19:50 |
| Yorvyk | unless you only intend to try it for a short while | 19:51 |
| lubuntufan | Ok. that's where teh problem is..not installing on Fat32. So what do you receommend? | 19:51 |
| bioterror | ext4 ofkooz | 19:52 |
| lubuntufan | How about NTFS? | 19:52 |
| bioterror | hahahaha | 19:52 |
| bioterror | "I Like my filesystem like my girls, fat and 16" :D | 19:52 |
| Yorvyk | ext2 on an SD card or create a partition on the HD | 19:52 |
| Yorvyk | If you have over 1.5 GiB of RAM you don't really need swap | 19:54 |
| bioterror | Yorvyk, any scientific proofs about not using journaling fs on sd | 19:54 |
| lubuntufan | Thanks. so do I need to create 2 partitions or will the installer also create the swap partition? | 19:54 |
| lubuntufan | ok. that answered my question...I have 4GB RAM | 19:54 |
| Yorvyk | So use manual install and select the SD card if you want to install there and tell it to format Ext2 and mount it at / | 19:56 |
| Yorvyk | bioterror, SD cards don't have very good wear levelling built in and are not designed to be constantly written and erased. | 19:57 |
| bioterror | Yorvyk, I think that's related to older cards | 19:58 |
| bioterror | flash drive technology has advanced | 19:58 |
| lubuntufan | Thank you so much Yorvyk. I will give it a try. But a bit leery on teh manual install. My SD is a SDHC Ultra II - 16GB. | 19:58 |
| bioterror | have you heard that they are using SSD drives! | 19:58 |
| lubuntufan | I am trying to us Lubuntu as a lightweight qucik boot for surfing/youtube etc. | 19:59 |
| bioterror | Yorvyk, if you think about DSLR cameras | 19:59 |
| Yorvyk | Yes but SSD drives have wear levelling algorithms built in so the same space doesn't get written to again and again. | 20:00 |
| Yorvyk | Good luck lubuntufan, any more problems call back :) | 20:00 |
| bioterror | ext4 can be used without journaling | 20:02 |
| bioterror | :D | 20:02 |
| lubuntufan | Thank you guys. The other reaon I am using teh SD is as I am running out of space in teh primary HD. | 20:02 |
| Yorvyk | I just recommend Ext2 because it saves altering parameters | 20:03 |
| Yorvyk | lubuntufan, you need to have a tidy up :) | 20:03 |
| lubuntufan | Let me try the installation again :) | 20:04 |
| Yorvyk | bioterror, Newer SD cards could last for years before failing but I don't like encouraging excessive wear if it can be avoided | 20:04 |
| bioterror | well yeah | 20:05 |
| bioterror | those are okay for reading stuff | 20:05 |
| bioterror | but constant usage is not good as browser cache on stuff | 20:06 |
| bioterror | and stuff | 20:06 |
| Yorvyk | In a camera you are not constantly reading and writing | 20:07 |
| bioterror | you're writing | 20:10 |
| phillw | I always advise a microsoft approved speed usb device, they are faster ans designed with fault tollarence built in. They cost 2 - 3 times of a standard usb stick, but mine has never let me down. I recall one guy saying he was going to blow up the manufactures of the 'cheap' ones as he'd had several fail on him. :P | 20:10 |
| bioterror | if you use RAW files, you write 10-40MB files | 20:10 |
| Yorvyk | USB stickes are different to SD cards. SD cards rely on the controller and on cheap card readers fitted to most PCs these are not brilliant | 20:12 |
| phillw | Yorvyk: there are also SD cards and 'SD' cards... same applies - you get what you pay for :) | 20:13 |
| Yorvyk | The two most reliable USB flash drives I've had were £5 for 2 from Netto | 20:13 |
| Yorvyk | But if the controller is nothing great it may still end up writing to the same place over and over again | 20:15 |
| phillw | my 2GB one runs a full lubuntu with remembering every thing, it's actually hard to determine which is faster, as lubuntu is so lean. | 20:15 |
| phillw | my next laptop will be usb3 :D | 20:16 |
| Yorvyk | Can you get USB3 things to plug in? | 20:16 |
| phillw | I'm not sure if usb3 is fully supported in the kernel. | 20:17 |
| Yorvyk | May not be as there isn't much to test it on. | 20:17 |
| bioterror | 64GB USB3 stick is cheap ;) | 20:18 |
| Yorvyk | How cheap | 20:19 |
| phillw | Yorvyk: I've not seen it officially announced yet ... http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/255991/linux-first-to-support-usb-3 | 20:19 |
| Yorvyk | I saw a MOBO about 18 months ago with USB3 on it but there was nothing to plug into it. | 20:20 |
| bioterror | hmmm | 20:20 |
| bioterror | actually | 20:20 |
| bioterror | 60GB usb 3.0 key is 245€ | 20:21 |
| phillw | now, that's odd, why would Xorg be using up 30% of my processor time? | 20:22 |
| phillw | I've just seen my CPU usage spike to nearly 100%. | 20:22 |
| Yorvyk | what else was running | 20:23 |
| tenach | What is a good, slim ftp application? | 20:24 |
| bioterror | lftp | 20:24 |
| tenach | bioterror: thanks :D | 20:25 |
| phillw | http://pastebin.com/d6fXhZ9W | 20:25 |
| bioterror | I've never seen a really good working graphical ftp client on linux | 20:25 |
| bioterror | tbqh | 20:25 |
| tenach | bioterror: I really enjoy filezilla, but on my work machine i usually just use nautilus. | 20:26 |
| tenach | However, I'm spinning my own liveusb of lubuntu so I can have a slim, portable workstation. | 20:26 |
| bioterror | lftp handle sftp and stuff | 20:26 |
| tenach | That's all i need. :D | 20:26 |
| bioterror | you just need to remember that mirror -Rc sends stuff, and mirror -c receives | 20:27 |
| Yorvyk | phillw, it was bored and wanted some thing to do | 20:27 |
| phillw | Yorvyk: yeah, but it's a reet PITA to have to reboot, as I have to restart dragoneyes...... :( | 20:28 |
| bioterror | just kill X? :D | 20:30 |
| Yorvyk | I can get Xorg to spike like that moving windows around on a slow machine | 20:30 |
| Yorvyk | but it doesn't remain at that level | 20:30 |
| Yorvyk | phillw, I've solved the problem http://pastebin.com/J4gnEfCR :P | 20:36 |
| phillw | Yorvyk: and now I'm totally confused.... http://pastebin.com/96idu249 | 20:52 |
| Yorvyk | phillw, I've seen a few things about high Xorg usage, what video driver are you using | 20:56 |
| phillw | ahh... I think I found the cause, I had two instances of Chromium running. | 20:57 |
| phillw | as to why it would that to Xorg, pass..... | 20:58 |
| Yorvyk | phillw, that looks like a bug to me | 20:59 |
| phillw | yeah but in which package? Xorg or Chromium? | 21:00 |
| Yorvyk | Yeah :) | 21:01 |
| phillw | I'll see if does it again and report it to both teams - they can then argue it out :P | 21:02 |
| Yorvyk | all you can do really | 21:02 |
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