| anon33_ | gnome-session-save --logout responds with the following error (i'm using awesome WM): | 00:56 |
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| anon33_ | (gnome-session-save:18743): WARNING **: Failed to call logout: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files | 00:57 |
| anon33_ | Anyone know how to fix this issue? | 00:57 |
| penguin42 | sorry, not seen that | 00:58 |
| Senix | coz_, hello good sir | 01:18 |
| coz_ | Senix, hey guy | 01:18 |
| Senix | coz_, Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g that would be my wifi card | 01:19 |
| coz_ | Senix, yeah on these things... wifi I am not a real expert on... however many of the people here can most likely answer that for you:) | 01:19 |
| Senix | coz_, well if i run into any problems i'll ask, but before i plague myself upon these fine users i shall try google first. | 01:20 |
| coz_ | Senix, good thinking..or simply download and burn the daily or alpha 1 cd and test it out :) | 01:21 |
| Senix | coz_, will do | 01:21 |
| sagaci | it's pretty buggy but that's expected | 01:22 |
| nit-wit | sagaci, its not buggy it's special:) | 01:24 |
| sagaci | ai'll try it again at alpha 2 | 01:28 |
| scizzo- | happy new years | 03:31 |
| IdleOne | thank you scizzo- you too | 03:42 |
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| coz_ | good day all | 16:08 |
| IdleOne | Happy new year coz_ | 16:09 |
| coz_ | IdleOne, :) thanks same to you guy | 16:09 |
| IdleOne | Thank you | 16:10 |
| coz_ | has the desktop icons been include yet... when searching I mean? | 16:12 |
| coz_ | included rather | 16:12 |
| coz_ | have not has | 16:13 |
| coz_ | oh boy starting the new year as if it were last yere :) | 16:13 |
| coz_ | also ... is canonical back from vacation yet? | 16:14 |
| penguin42 | coz_: UK has a holiday on monday, and I guess people in most places will be slowly working their way back into work over the week | 16:51 |
| coz_ | penguin42, ok sounds reasonable... thanks :) | 16:52 |
| * mongy worked last monday, weds-thurs, off sat,sun,mon back tues. | 16:54 | |
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| orbisvicis | hi, what does ubuntu call the kernel image? /boot/vmlinu... ? | 18:03 |
| yofel | /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.37-11-server for example | 18:03 |
| orbisvicis | yofel: thank you. that explains why the grub2 10_linux script searches for vmlinu[xz]-* | 18:06 |
| orbisvicis | (arch linux uses vmlinuz26, so that glob wouldnt work) | 18:06 |
| DrHalan | hey, hows natty coming along? | 18:15 |
| yofel | kubuntu great so far :P | 18:17 |
| bjsnider | the trouble with kubuntu is it has kde and not gnome | 18:26 |
| bjsnider | something's gotta be done about that | 18:26 |
| IdleOne | hehe | 18:26 |
| h4f | I got a kernel panic when inserting a cd. | 19:43 |
| penguin42 | oh, shouldn't happen | 19:43 |
| penguin42 | h4f: Do you have the full panic recorded in a log (and has the system offered to submit it?) | 19:43 |
| h4f | penguin42: how do I get that log ? | 19:48 |
| penguin42 | h4f: Did the machine crash when it happened or did it stumble on? | 19:48 |
| h4f | penguin42: I tried writing an ISO to the disk. and it completes with failure. that means a CD is not in good. but any way the kernel should no panic | 19:48 |
| penguin42 | yeh kernel shouldn't panic - so when you say it panic'd what did you see? An oops? Flashing keyboard lights? | 19:49 |
| h4f | penguin42: I see - switching to text mode. then stack trace. and few kernel panics mesages. and everything stopes working | 19:50 |
| penguin42 | h4f: OK, well if you have a camera take a picture of what you see in text mode, after reboot you can see if there are any messages saved in /var/log/messages or /var/log/kern.log but it depends how much made it to disk as it crashed | 19:51 |
| h4f | penguin42: ok i will do that later. may be 30 min | 19:52 |
| penguin42 | for the record, I hate X cut/paste semantics | 19:56 |
| BUGabundo | evening | 20:00 |
| BUGabundo | stupid question of the year: | 20:00 |
| BUGabundo | how do I get compiz to start on boot? (classic desktop) | 20:00 |
| h4f | One more problem I have. when unplug the battery while laptop is running it gets kernel panic. | 20:04 |
| h4f | when the laptop is running and I plug in the battery crash it wont kernel panic. I have acer aspire 5720 which i think supports hot unplug of battery | 20:05 |
| penguin42 | hmm never tried hot unplugging a battery | 20:08 |
| mongy | with autohide on, is there anyway to bring it back without moving the window | 20:10 |
| mongy | also, i keep trying to enable window previews and it locks my vbox guest everytime. | 20:16 |
| h4f | is there a way to record kernel panic info ? | 20:26 |
| jMCg | crash? kexec? kdump.. etc.. | 20:28 |
| jMCg | http://www.google.com/images?client=opera&rls=en&q=linux%20panic&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi <<< This is the wrong way :-/ | 20:29 |
| cozziemoto | has nayone had the issue when installing that monitor goes into a tizzy stateing wrong resoulutin out of range? | 20:31 |
| penguin42 | jMCg: I don't think Ubuntu has anything set up to capture them in a better way than that normally; although I see it reserves memroy for a crash kernel but I don't see it doing anything with it | 20:32 |
| cozziemoto | I have already teste with lucid and maverick and no issues | 20:32 |
| penguin42 | cozziemoto: Then it's a regression - report it! What graphics card? | 20:33 |
| cozziemoto | penguin42, nvidia | 20:33 |
| cozziemoto | penguin42, it wont get to the grub menu of course... | 20:33 |
| penguin42 | oh | 20:33 |
| penguin42 | cozziemoto: Best to report it | 20:33 |
| jMCg | penguin42: all you have to do is install crash | 20:34 |
| penguin42 | jMCg: Oh interesting, I didn't know that existed, is there a canned response to people to tell people to use it? | 20:35 |
| cozziemoto | i will also install an earlier daily build to get past this | 20:36 |
| jMCg | !crash | 20:36 |
| ubottu | For help debugging your program, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures | 20:36 |
| jMCg | !kdump | 20:36 |
| jMCg | Nope. | 20:36 |
| penguin42 | hmm | 20:36 |
| bcurtiswx_ | anyone having bzr problems with python 2.7 ? | 20:38 |
| bcurtiswx_ | with an lp address for example | 20:39 |
| bcurtiswx_ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/549359/ | 20:40 |
| penguin42 | bcurtiswx_: bzr was very broken the other day | 20:40 |
| bcurtiswx_ | penguin42, does it need a rebuild of some sort? | 20:40 |
| penguin42 | bug 693880 | 20:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 693880 in bzr (Ubuntu) "_ReportingFileSocket.readline lacks size argument" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/693880 | 20:41 |
| bcurtiswx_ | penguin42, muchas gracias. i'll see if balil's patch works for me :) | 20:43 |
| bcurtiswx_ | penguin42, cool worked. :) | 20:46 |
| jMCg | penguin42: here we go: add "deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/ natty main multiverse restricted universe" to your /etc/apt/sources.list then: sudo aptitude install crash kdump-tools kexec-tools linux-image-$(uname -r)-dbgsym ; read /usr/share/doc/kdump-tools/README.Debian -- edit /etc/default/kdump-tools and /etc/default/grub accordingly | 20:59 |
| penguin42 | sounds good in principal; not tried it | 21:01 |
| jMCg | I just did the last two or so steps, because Ubuntu, as opposed to Fedora doesn't do them. | 21:02 |
| jMCg | But generally, that's it. | 21:02 |
| jMCg | I just wish it would be there out of the box. | 21:03 |
| jMCg | Like, you know.. on a real Unix. | 21:03 |
| penguin42 | file a bug on it | 21:03 |
| jMCg | Nonono. I mean: OUT OF THE BOX. You install a server someonewhere out there in the wild, you'll never have a monitor attached or anything. If it crashes you want it to leave you with a nice crashdump to analyze -- after comming up cleanly and starting all services again. | 21:06 |
| jMCg | http://lethargy.org/~jesus/writes/panic-linux-freebsd-and-solaris <<< Something like that. | 21:07 |
| jMCg | ``I like Linux, but I need savecore, I need it now, and I need it to unquestioningly, reliably work out-of-the-box.'' -- beautiful. | 21:08 |
| jMCg | The comments are a joy to read. And by that I mean my brain is freezing from the idiocy. | 21:16 |
| penguin42 | just add chocolate | 21:19 |
| jMCg | I'm doing that right now. | 21:25 |
| bjsnider | BUGabundo, have you got a solution to the choppy scrolling iissue in chromium? | 22:30 |
| BUGabundo | don't have it | 22:30 |
| bjsnider | you don't have what, choppy scrolling, or a solution? | 22:31 |
| KM0201 | why did desktop default to unity now? | 22:31 |
| BUGabundo | KM0201: not now | 22:31 |
| BUGabundo | been like that for weeks | 22:31 |
| BUGabundo | bjsnider: don't have choppy scroll AFAIS | 22:32 |
| KM0201 | i just downloaded it.. i guess this has been discussed quite a bit? | 22:32 |
| penguin42 | KM0201: If you don't like it you can select 'Classic desktop' from gdm/kdm | 22:32 |
| KM0201 | penguin42: i know, but thats not the point. | 22:32 |
| penguin42 | KM0201: Indeed, but that's somewhat contentious | 22:32 |
| KM0201 | can you safely uninstall unity? | 22:32 |
| KM0201 | penguin42: why would it be contentious?... | 22:33 |
| nit-wit | KM0201, have you tried the regular desktop it is already there | 22:41 |
| KM0201 | nit-wit: yes.. i was just wondering why they changed "unity" to be default | 22:42 |
| em | any of you running Natty right now? | 22:42 |
| mongy | even more user friendly I guess. but old faithful is still there. | 22:42 |
| bcurtiswx_ | em, i believe most of us are running natty.. thats the purpose of this channel | 22:42 |
| nit-wit | KM0201, I guess it is the new thing I didn't like it at first but I can see gettng used to it but I have a few more OS installed as well | 22:43 |
| em | okay good could any of you tell me if there is a package called 'racket' in Natty | 22:43 |
| em | it's a version of scheme | 22:43 |
| bcurtiswx_ | em, what version r u using? | 22:43 |
| em | maverick | 22:43 |
| KM0201 | nit-wit: yeah, i guess. | 22:43 |
| penguin42 | em: See packages.ubuntu.com | 22:43 |
| em | penguin42! | 22:43 |
| bcurtiswx_ | penguin42, beat me to it.. lol thx | 22:43 |
| nit-wit | KM0201, I usualy just have a very tiny panel with a static what running dropdown, so the lack of control over the panels is a irritant. | 22:44 |
| nit-wit | *what's | 22:44 |
| em | Do any of you know why there is no package for racket in Ubuntu? | 22:50 |
| em | I filed a bug about that way back in Jaunty I think. | 22:50 |
| yofel | nobody bothered to package it? We get many packaging requests, much more than the MOTU team can take care of | 22:51 |
| yofel | iirc there was a request in the debian BTS too | 22:51 |
| SwedeMike | will there be vaapi on intel 4500 support by default in 11.04? | 22:52 |
| yofel | yep | 22:52 |
| yofel | em: debian bug 592688 | 22:52 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 592688 in plt-scheme "RFP: racket -- Racket is a programming language" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/592688 | 22:52 |
| SwedeMike | so one doesn't have to do all the stuff in http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?t=86581 | 22:53 |
| em | yofel: I am the one who wrote that bug! | 22:53 |
| yofel | oh right, just noticed.. | 22:54 |
| em | How will it get into Natty? | 22:55 |
| em | I filed that bug with Debian way back on August 12 2010 because everyone i talked to in Ubuntu said that was the way to do it. It will be in Natty? | 22:56 |
| yofel | unless someone wants to maintain a seperate racket package in Ubuntu, we wait for debian to package it and then sync from there | 22:56 |
| yofel | em: you can ask in #ubuntu-motu, they're the ones taking care of packaging requests | 22:57 |
| em | thanks. | 22:57 |
| * penguin42 wonders how to move/rearrange stuff on a KDE panel | 23:34 | |
| rww | penguin42: click the cashew button on the far right, if it's there. if it's not, right-click the panel and Unlock Widgets first. | 23:45 |
| penguin42 | rww: Oh I see, it wasn't obvious that when in that state it allowed movement of the panel icons | 23:46 |
| penguin42 | rww: Thanks | 23:46 |
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