[00:56] gnome-session-save --logout responds with the following error (i'm using awesome WM): [00:57] (gnome-session-save:18743): WARNING **: Failed to call logout: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files [00:57] Anyone know how to fix this issue? [00:58] sorry, not seen that [01:18] coz_, hello good sir [01:18] Senix, hey guy [01:19] coz_, Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g that would be my wifi card [01:19] Senix, yeah on these things... wifi I am not a real expert on... however many of the people here can most likely answer that for you:) [01:20] coz_, well if i run into any problems i'll ask, but before i plague myself upon these fine users i shall try google first. [01:21] Senix, good thinking..or simply download and burn the daily or alpha 1 cd and test it out :) [01:21] coz_, will do [01:22] it's pretty buggy but that's expected [01:24] sagaci, its not buggy it's special:) [01:28] ai'll try it again at alpha 2 [03:31] happy new years [03:42] thank you scizzo- you too === IAmNotThatGuy is now known as M0hi === yofel_ is now known as yofel === wzssyqa1 is now known as wzssyqa === wzssyqa1 is now known as wzssyqa === M0hi is now known as IAmNotThatGuy === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth [16:08] good day all [16:09] Happy new year coz_ [16:09] IdleOne, :) thanks same to you guy [16:10] Thank you [16:12] has the desktop icons been include yet... when searching I mean? [16:12] included rather [16:13] have not has [16:13] oh boy starting the new year as if it were last yere :) [16:14] also ... is canonical back from vacation yet? [16:51] coz_: UK has a holiday on monday, and I guess people in most places will be slowly working their way back into work over the week [16:52] penguin42, ok sounds reasonable... thanks :) [16:54] * mongy worked last monday, weds-thurs, off sat,sun,mon back tues. === tschundeee_ is now known as tschundeee [18:03] hi, what does ubuntu call the kernel image? /boot/vmlinu... ? [18:03] /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.37-11-server for example [18:06] yofel: thank you. that explains why the grub2 10_linux script searches for vmlinu[xz]-* [18:06] (arch linux uses vmlinuz26, so that glob wouldnt work) [18:15] hey, hows natty coming along? [18:17] kubuntu great so far :P [18:26] the trouble with kubuntu is it has kde and not gnome [18:26] something's gotta be done about that [18:26] hehe [19:43] I got a kernel panic when inserting a cd. [19:43] oh, shouldn't happen [19:43] h4f: Do you have the full panic recorded in a log (and has the system offered to submit it?) [19:48] penguin42: how do I get that log ? [19:48] h4f: Did the machine crash when it happened or did it stumble on? [19:48] penguin42: I tried writing an ISO to the disk. and it completes with failure. that means a CD is not in good. but any way the kernel should no panic [19:49] yeh kernel shouldn't panic - so when you say it panic'd what did you see? An oops? Flashing keyboard lights? [19:50] penguin42: I see - switching to text mode. then stack trace. and few kernel panics mesages. and everything stopes working [19:51] h4f: OK, well if you have a camera take a picture of what you see in text mode, after reboot you can see if there are any messages saved in /var/log/messages or /var/log/kern.log but it depends how much made it to disk as it crashed [19:52] penguin42: ok i will do that later. may be 30 min [19:56] for the record, I hate X cut/paste semantics [20:00] evening [20:00] stupid question of the year: [20:00] how do I get compiz to start on boot? (classic desktop) [20:04] One more problem I have. when unplug the battery while laptop is running it gets kernel panic. [20:05] when the laptop is running and I plug in the battery crash it wont kernel panic. I have acer aspire 5720 which i think supports hot unplug of battery [20:08] hmm never tried hot unplugging a battery [20:10] with autohide on, is there anyway to bring it back without moving the window [20:16] also, i keep trying to enable window previews and it locks my vbox guest everytime. [20:26] is there a way to record kernel panic info ? [20:28] crash? kexec? kdump.. etc.. [20:29] http://www.google.com/images?client=opera&rls=en&q=linux%20panic&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi <<< This is the wrong way :-/ [20:31] has nayone had the issue when installing that monitor goes into a tizzy stateing wrong resoulutin out of range? [20:32] jMCg: I don't think Ubuntu has anything set up to capture them in a better way than that normally; although I see it reserves memroy for a crash kernel but I don't see it doing anything with it [20:32] I have already teste with lucid and maverick and no issues [20:33] cozziemoto: Then it's a regression - report it! What graphics card? [20:33] penguin42, nvidia [20:33] penguin42, it wont get to the grub menu of course... [20:33] oh [20:33] cozziemoto: Best to report it [20:34] penguin42: all you have to do is install crash [20:35] jMCg: Oh interesting, I didn't know that existed, is there a canned response to people to tell people to use it? [20:36] i will also install an earlier daily build to get past this [20:36] !crash [20:36] For help debugging your program, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures [20:36] !kdump [20:36] Nope. [20:36] hmm [20:38] anyone having bzr problems with python 2.7 ? [20:39] with an lp address for example [20:40] http://paste.ubuntu.com/549359/ [20:40] bcurtiswx_: bzr was very broken the other day [20:40] penguin42, does it need a rebuild of some sort? [20:41] bug 693880 [20:41] Launchpad bug 693880 in bzr (Ubuntu) "_ReportingFileSocket.readline lacks size argument" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/693880 [20:43] penguin42, muchas gracias. i'll see if balil's patch works for me :) [20:46] penguin42, cool worked. :) [20:59] penguin42: here we go: add "deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/ natty main multiverse restricted universe" to your /etc/apt/sources.list then: sudo aptitude install crash kdump-tools kexec-tools linux-image-$(uname -r)-dbgsym ; read /usr/share/doc/kdump-tools/README.Debian -- edit /etc/default/kdump-tools and /etc/default/grub accordingly [21:01] sounds good in principal; not tried it [21:02] I just did the last two or so steps, because Ubuntu, as opposed to Fedora doesn't do them. [21:02] But generally, that's it. [21:03] I just wish it would be there out of the box. [21:03] Like, you know.. on a real Unix. [21:03] file a bug on it [21:06] Nonono. I mean: OUT OF THE BOX. You install a server someonewhere out there in the wild, you'll never have a monitor attached or anything. If it crashes you want it to leave you with a nice crashdump to analyze -- after comming up cleanly and starting all services again. [21:07] http://lethargy.org/~jesus/writes/panic-linux-freebsd-and-solaris <<< Something like that. [21:08] ``I like Linux, but I need savecore, I need it now, and I need it to unquestioningly, reliably work out-of-the-box.'' -- beautiful. [21:16] The comments are a joy to read. And by that I mean my brain is freezing from the idiocy. [21:19] just add chocolate [21:25] I'm doing that right now. [22:30] BUGabundo, have you got a solution to the choppy scrolling iissue in chromium? [22:30] don't have it [22:31] you don't have what, choppy scrolling, or a solution? [22:31] why did desktop default to unity now? [22:31] KM0201: not now [22:31] been like that for weeks [22:32] bjsnider: don't have choppy scroll AFAIS [22:32] i just downloaded it.. i guess this has been discussed quite a bit? [22:32] KM0201: If you don't like it you can select 'Classic desktop' from gdm/kdm [22:32] penguin42: i know, but thats not the point. [22:32] KM0201: Indeed, but that's somewhat contentious [22:32] can you safely uninstall unity? [22:33] penguin42: why would it be contentious?... [22:41] KM0201, have you tried the regular desktop it is already there [22:42] nit-wit: yes.. i was just wondering why they changed "unity" to be default [22:42] any of you running Natty right now? [22:42] even more user friendly I guess. but old faithful is still there. [22:42] em, i believe most of us are running natty.. thats the purpose of this channel [22:43] KM0201, I guess it is the new thing I didn't like it at first but I can see gettng used to it but I have a few more OS installed as well [22:43] okay good could any of you tell me if there is a package called 'racket' in Natty [22:43] it's a version of scheme [22:43] em, what version r u using? [22:43] maverick [22:43] nit-wit: yeah, i guess. [22:43] em: See packages.ubuntu.com [22:43] penguin42! [22:43] penguin42, beat me to it.. lol thx [22:44] KM0201, I usualy just have a very tiny panel with a static what running dropdown, so the lack of control over the panels is a irritant. [22:44] *what's [22:50] Do any of you know why there is no package for racket in Ubuntu? [22:50] I filed a bug about that way back in Jaunty I think. [22:51] nobody bothered to package it? We get many packaging requests, much more than the MOTU team can take care of [22:51] iirc there was a request in the debian BTS too [22:52] will there be vaapi on intel 4500 support by default in 11.04? [22:52] yep [22:52] em: debian bug 592688 [22:52] Debian bug 592688 in plt-scheme "RFP: racket -- Racket is a programming language" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/592688 [22:53] so one doesn't have to do all the stuff in http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?t=86581 [22:53] yofel: I am the one who wrote that bug! [22:54] oh right, just noticed.. [22:55] How will it get into Natty? [22:56] I filed that bug with Debian way back on August 12 2010 because everyone i talked to in Ubuntu said that was the way to do it. It will be in Natty? [22:56] unless someone wants to maintain a seperate racket package in Ubuntu, we wait for debian to package it and then sync from there [22:57] em: you can ask in #ubuntu-motu, they're the ones taking care of packaging requests [22:57] thanks. [23:34] * penguin42 wonders how to move/rearrange stuff on a KDE panel [23:45] penguin42: click the cashew button on the far right, if it's there. if it's not, right-click the panel and Unlock Widgets first. [23:46] rww: Oh I see, it wasn't obvious that when in that state it allowed movement of the panel icons [23:46] rww: Thanks