[01:22] <oktexan> Bug #696115 - This looks like it should be a feature request instead of a bug
[01:22] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 696115 in gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) "Timezone should not require superuser on laptop (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/696115
[01:25] <penguin42> possibly, I'd actually expect the time zone to be settable on a per-user basis
[01:26] <penguin42> It's the TZ environment variable; one gotcha though is if the hardware clock is configured to store local time, which local time will it store?
[01:26] <oktexan> i'm not sure but i thought you had to be the superuser to set the tz...still new at this lol
[01:38] <penguin42> system wide yes, but I can see you should be able to do it per user, and that could be  a wishlist for the GUI/Gnome to be able to do that
[01:38] <penguin42> but anyway, bed
[01:52] <RedSingularity> hggdh:  Wishlist or Ubuntu brainstorm on this one?  bug 694064
[01:52] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 694064 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "[Wishlist] Show date of last package upload (into ubuntu archives) in the changelogs (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/694064
[02:46] <em> hey i need to fill out a bug. It's a real bug and it's urgent. Could someone tell me how to do it best?
[02:48] <em> I will write the bug report but Id like it if someone who has expertise told me everything to include.
[03:04] <daltenty> em: Have you gone through the steps at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs ? It will help you automatically attach a lot of the relevant info
[03:12] <em> daltenty: i haven't done that
[03:12] <em> daltenty: this bug happens on my laptop when I close the lid and keep it closed for 10 minutes or so, the display is lost and it never comes back. I have to turn off the computer.
[03:14] <em> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/692164
[03:14] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 692164 in linux (Ubuntu) "Hewlett-Packard HP Pavilion dv6 fails to resume from suspend (affects: 3) (heat: 579)" [Undecided,New]
[03:14] <em> daltenty: it's very similar if not the same problem as that ^
[03:14] <em> because that is the same laptop I have and the same problem.
[03:19] <em> I think it's probably a bug in the kernel or in gnome-power-manager
[03:19] <em> should I do a bug report against both?
[03:22] <em> When I use aport it includes a lot of information, is any of that sensitive information?
[03:45] <daltenty> em: sounds like its probably a kernel issues at least to me, and the bug is currently filled against that. I would add any relevant additional info on to the existing bug and mark that it affects you.
[03:47] <daltenty> em: If its the exact same issue I wouldn't bother filling any additional bugs as duplicates are generally not helpful
[04:07] <em> daltenty: well in that link it said that for kernel bugs they want you to file a new bug report so I did.
[04:08] <em> Here is the bug report I filed, is it okay? -- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/696164
[04:08] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 696164 in linux (Ubuntu) "HP Pavilion dv6 loses display permanently when lid is left closed (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[04:15] <daltenty> em: Hmm, that is does sound a little different since your laptop is not supposed to be suspending. As for the contents looks like all the apport info is there, as for what other info might be helpful I'm not too sure, I'm pretty new here.
[04:15] <em> Yep me too.
[10:27] <wolfpack> Can someone confirm the source package of this bug " https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jockey/+bug/696187 " .I am in doubt whether it is bcmwl-kernerl-source or jockey.I got this bug during installation of Broadcom STA wireless proprietayr driver.
[10:27] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 696187 in jockey (Ubuntu) "installation failed of Broadcoam STA Wireless proprietary drive (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[12:43] <nisshh> where is the best place to report bugs against mythbuntu? or is ubuntu-bug used?
[12:49] <yofel> nisshh: afaik mythbuntu is just another ubuntu derivate that uses our archive, so using ubuntu-bug should be fine
[12:49] <nisshh> yofel, ok, didnt know if it had ubuntu-bug included or not, thanks :)
[12:50] <yofel> nisshh: mythbuntu-desktop recommends apport-gtk so it should be included
[12:50] <nisshh> yofel, ok, thanks
[15:10] <ttrubuntu> hi all
[15:11] <ttrubuntu> I have one specific problem with Ubuntu 10.04 Desktop edition.Here is the problem: System doesn't respond every now and then.I only have to HARD reboo.tt. But the drums doesn't beam during reboot. I have to use $su halt
[15:11] <ttrubuntu> in this reboot african drums beat
[15:12] <ttrubuntu> Please help
[15:13] <ttrubuntu> rusivi: do u have any idea
[15:13] <ttrubuntu> about my problem?
[15:13] <rusivi> ttrubuntu: I'm asking you questions in #ubuntu :D
[15:14] <ttrubuntu> ok. thnaks rusuvi. i will continue chat there
[15:14] <ttrubuntu> thnaks
[16:27] <oktexan> Bug #696107 looks like it should be a wishlist
[16:27] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 696107 in elementaryos "If a .desktop file is added to the trash, offer to uninstall that application. (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/696107
[16:30] <yofel> oktexan: that's not a bug in ubuntu, so nothing we can do
[16:31] <oktexan> right, i mean i think it should be set to a feature request and marked triaged
[16:32] <yofel> oktexan: sure, but you'll have to ask the bug supervisors of teh 'elementaryos' project to do that, *WE* as in Ubuntu Bug Control can't do anything here that you can't do too
[16:32] <oktexan> oh i'm sorry....still new at this
[16:33] <yofel> oktexan: on the bug page you see that it affects 'elementary OS', for ubuntu it would say 'Ubuntu' or 'packagename (Ubuntu)'
[16:41] <rork> I've found a couple of bugs in lcab: 1) the url in the package documentation is invalid (http://coding.wooyayhoopla.be/lcab/ could not connect to server), 2) the url in the manpage is invalid (http://www.geekshop.be/rien/lcab/ 404 page not found), 3) The package version (1.0.12-3) and manpage version (1.0.8) do not match. Should I file 2 bugs? (1) against packaging, and (2) and (3) against documentation? And is (3) actually a bug? It could be
[16:41] <rork>  the manpage didn't have updates.  (I checked the url for three days, problem exists in Natty)
[16:53] <penguin42> rork: Is the manpage in the package with the app or a separate package?
[16:54] <rork> it's in the package with the app
[17:51] <c2tarun> can anyone please look at but 696282. I tried to reproduce but failed. + reported didn't mentioned the name of the package he was trying to install.
[17:53] <yofel> lp 696282
[17:53] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 696282 in software-center (Ubuntu) "can't install chrome (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/696282
[18:16] <rork> penguin42: it's in a single package
[18:18] <penguin42> rork: Then that's easy, just file it in a bug against that package
[18:18] <rork> ok, thanks
[18:18] <penguin42> rork: The fact that the URL is invalid maybe a consequence of it being old
[18:20] <rork> most likely, still no url or a valid one would be better then a broken one.
[18:57] <daltenty> I think Bug #695916  in empathy should be set to wishlist when some one gets the chance
[18:57] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 695916 in empathy (Ubuntu) "empathy won't allow yahoo video chat (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/695916
[21:29] <hggdh> vish: I updated the requirements for joining -control -- tried to make it clearer that one *has* to provide importance and reasoning. Care to check & comment?
[21:29] <em> hey i have done everything I can to try to help out with reporting this bug is anything missing --- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/696164
[21:29] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 696164 in linux (Ubuntu) "HP Pavilion dv6 loses display permanently when lid is left closed (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[21:31] <vish> hggdh: hi..
[21:31]  * vish checks..
[21:32] <hggdh> vish: and good afternoon (night, I guess, for you)
[21:32] <hggdh> :-)
[21:32] <vish> :)
[21:33] <vish> hggdh: looks good, except for a typo.. your » you
[21:33] <hggdh> oops
[21:33] <vish> "indicate what importance (and explain the reasoning) your would"
[21:33] <hggdh> ugh!
[21:33] <hggdh> will correct now
[21:33] <vish> thanks.. :)
[21:35] <hggdh> done, thank you
[23:33] <xelister|DRUNK> ubuntu installation hangs
[23:33] <xelister|DRUNK> on the selection of keyboard layout UI.  whet I click Poland, then it freezes the UI and it remains frozen untill instalation is done, with Forward button disabled
[23:34] <xelister|DRUNK> good work, ubuntu is uninstallable.  tried 2 times already.
[23:35] <xelister|DRUNK> Forward, Backward buttons disabled.   Main keyboard choice is working, but choosing Poland does not unlock the UI.  The secondary keyboard selection always shows what ever options where shown on first open of this dialog
[23:35] <xelister|DRUNK> the installing panel at bottom is progressing and even finishing with install with stupid "ready when you are" message at end, but cant use FORWARD button
[23:36] <xelister|DRUNK> rawwwargh blaaargh.  can't ubuntu do anything right
[23:36] <penguin42> ah, there is a known bug for a hang at keyboard selection
[23:37]  * xelister|DRUNK (*@$(*(#*$1!@#131
[23:37] <xelister|DRUNK> crap, even installation doesn't work
[23:37] <xelister|DRUNK> Ubuntu. Biggest linux ever. 2011 - year of the linux desktop?
[23:37] <xelister|DRUNK> penguin42: well how to work around this, and WHY ISNT A FIX RELEASED still
[23:37] <penguin42> bug 684036 or bug 664533 sorry
[23:37] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 684036 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Installation stalls after keyboard selection (affects: 1) (heat: 128)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/684036
[23:37] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 664533 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Installer stuck on keyboard layout selection (affects: 6) (heat: 72)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/664533
[23:38] <penguin42> xelister|DRUNK: Sorry, I don't know - I just know that bug is there; it looks like someone is looking at 656777 (it says progress)
[23:38] <xelister|DRUNK> is ubuntu QA team assleep? hello, milions of users and INSTALATION IS NOT WORKING FOR NON-USA users?? wtf
[23:38] <paultag> xelister|DRUNK: I don't think that's totally true
[23:39] <paultag> I'll have to read the bug reports
[23:39] <penguin42> paultag: It looks pretty bad
[23:39] <xelister|DRUNK> paultag: yeah I bet I can work around this in milion ways starting from e.g. alternative installer, but still this pissess users off
[23:39] <paultag> but I can't imagine. A lot of the dev team is international
[23:39] <paultag> xelister|DRUNK: I bet, but there are loco teams all over the world that test this, there is no way it's that bad.
[23:40] <penguin42> paultag: It looks like it's affecting a lot of people in a lot of locales
[23:40] <paultag> penguin42: let me read the bugs
[23:40] <paultag> sec :)
[23:41] <penguin42> xelister|DRUNK: The work around seems to be to choose the keyboard from the boot menu right at the beginning rather than the installer itself
[23:41] <xelister|DRUNK> penguin42: at boot menu?
[23:41] <penguin42> yeh
[23:41] <xelister|DRUNK> you mean choose LANGUAGE?
[23:41] <paultag> cjwatson touched the bug
[23:42] <paultag> xelister|DRUNK: it will get resolved. One of the Ubuntu Hackers' wife's installs was doing this
[23:42] <penguin42> xelister|DRUNK: I'm not sure, but I think so - it's difficult to tell from the comment on an option I've never used
[23:42] <xelister|DRUNK> blaaarghhhh
[23:42] <xelister|DRUNK> I want ENGLISH LANGUAGE like a real man,  while using non-english layout
[23:42] <penguin42> paultag: So what is the LP urgency for that case?
[23:42] <penguin42> low, medium, high, affects dev's wife :-)
[23:42] <paultag> penguin42: haha
[23:43] <xelister|DRUNK> if I just leave it at United States of wAr default laoyut, then how to change layout to default PL layout (for entire system etc) after first boot?
[23:43] <paultag> hahahaha, never seen United States of wAr, that's good.
[23:43] <paultag> xelister|DRUNK: there's a languages menu entry
[23:44] <paultag> xelister|DRUNK: system --> admin
[23:44] <paultag> I think you can change keyboard layout there, if not in keyboards
[23:44] <paultag> yeah, it's in keyboard
[23:44] <paultag> System --> Prefs --> Keyboard
[23:45] <paultag> [Layouts] tab
[23:45] <xelister|DRUNK> paultag:  War On {sex,blacks,alcohol,weed,sex,sand blacks,warez}  in this order
[23:45] <xelister|DRUNK> also commies, and 2011 wikileaks... what else in 2011, perhaps linux? ;)
[23:45] <paultag> xelister|DRUNK: think it's a bit off. warez is much higher -- american here ;)
[23:46] <xelister|DRUNK> I was speaking in chrononical order
[23:46] <paultag> ahh
[23:51] <xelister|DRUNK> paultag: well to not contiune here, I will just say -> watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl4NlA97GeQ&feature=related  :)  dont forget to vote it uphand ;)  also #wikileaks and #freenet