[00:54] <lamont> can I extend a pv in lvm?  (ala resize2fs if it were just a normal partition)?
[00:55] <lamont> pvresize for the win
[16:35] <em> Hi, I think I may have found a bug in the ubuntu kernel. Can someone tell me an easy way to install an upstream kernel to check?
[16:35] <em> Im an ordinary user I don't have special skills.
[16:55] <em> I'm hoping to find a ppa for the mainline kernel.
[17:38] <psusi> I just attached a kernel patch to finally fix bug #153768.  Could anyone take a look and maybe apply it?  It is pretty simple and straightforward.
[17:38] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 153768 in udisks (Ubuntu) (and 4 other projects) "External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal (affects: 12) (dups: 4) (heat: 120)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153768
[17:40] <mjg59> psusi: Just parse ahci_port_cmd?
[17:41] <mjg59> You're still depending on the BIOS to know that it's an external port, so this isn't a guarantee
[17:41] <psusi> mjg59, two problems with that: 1) udev doesn't do bitwise comparisons and 2) ahci_port_cmd is in the wrong part of the sysfs tree so udev can't see it
[17:41] <psusi> yep, it isn't guaranteed, but it's better than nothing
[17:42] <mjg59> Its a property of the host, not of the device
[17:42] <psusi> that's the problem... the host device is not the parent of the device device
[17:43] <psusi> so udev doesn't see it as an attribute of the disk or its ancestry
[17:43] <mjg59> Well, adding bitwise comparison support to udev sounds useful
[17:43] <psusi> this arrangement is totally broken according to kay
[17:44] <psusi> it does... but the arrangement also needs fixed
[17:44] <mjg59> That also sounds worthwhile
[17:44] <mjg59> Adding sysfs ABI in a distribution-specific patch doesn't sound like as good a plan
[17:45] <psusi> exactly
[17:45] <psusi> hence, this patch
[17:45] <mjg59> ...which adds sysfs ABI
[17:45] <psusi> yea, but doesn't move a bunch around... just adds a new one
[17:46] <psusi> so no chance of breakage
[17:46] <mjg59> Right. That's probably not a good thing to add in a distribution-specific patch.
[17:46] <psusi> why?
[17:47] <mjg59> Because if it doesn't go upstream it'll have to be carried forever
[17:48] <psusi> well, yea... that's true of any patch
[17:48] <mjg59> No, ones that don't create ABI can be dropped
[17:49] <psusi> so could this, if you don't mind re breaking esata auto mounting
[17:49]  * psusi scratches his head
[17:49] <mjg59> No, even if this gets fixed properly you still can't drop the patch
[17:50] <mjg59> Because you have no idea what else might be using that ABI
[17:50] <mjg59> Users may depend on it
[21:31] <em> hey i have done everything I can to try to help out with reporting this bug is anything missing --- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/696164
[21:31] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 696164 in linux (Ubuntu) "HP Pavilion dv6 loses display permanently when lid is left closed (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]