| YoBoY | Happy new year | 12:59 |
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| YoBoY | mhall119: i'm not a french translator, they know how to correct the strange sentences btw ;) | 13:01 |
| * YoBoY hugs mhall119 | 13:01 | |
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| cjohnston | mornin | 15:37 |
| czajkowski | cjohnston: busy night | 17:49 |
| paultag | Hello, world! | 18:38 |
| vorian | yo paultag | 19:29 |
| vorian | what't the plan for -ID? | 19:30 |
| czajkowski | vorian: we sent you a mail back there before Christmas regarding it | 19:31 |
| paultag | yo vorian | 19:31 |
| vorian | czajkowski: i remember no such mailing :( | 19:31 |
| * vorian see's it now | 19:33 | |
| czajkowski | it was sent on the 17th december | 19:33 |
| vorian | so pretty much butt out and let the team continue to fail | 19:34 |
| vorian | I can do that | 19:34 |
| czajkowski | vorian: please don't see it that way, see it as a way to help them | 19:34 |
| vorian | they don't seem to want my help | 19:35 |
| vorian | which is cool, they are all 6 hours away from me | 19:35 |
| czajkowski | well have you talked to them? in a meeting or something ? | 19:35 |
| vorian | they don't have meetings, or use the ml, or use the forums | 19:36 |
| czajkowski | so how do they communicate? | 19:36 |
| vorian | I havent been let in on that secret | 19:36 |
| vorian | I would love to help, but these guys have no idea of a loco team, and frankly it doesn't look like they care | 19:37 |
| vorian | maybe I would be better suited in mentoring a team who want's help | 19:38 |
| czajkowski | vorian: no need to say things like let in on a secrete it's not very helpful :s | 19:40 |
| pleia2 | vorian: if there isn't a strong leader in a team reaching out to ask for help, a mentor isn't going to be very effective anyway | 19:40 |
| czajkowski | pleia2: hiya! | 19:41 |
| pleia2 | hi czajkowski :) | 19:41 |
| vorian | I don't think Idaho would be my choice of teams to mentor at this point | 19:41 |
| pleia2 | a team has to want to help itself, mostly when I "mentor" teams it means I hang out in their channel and when they have a question they just ping me, I don't push them in any direction, I don't give advice unless asked directly, it works very well, the team just needs to know they can ask me, or here, or the loco council, or *someone* when they have questions | 19:42 |
| czajkowski | vorian: maybe just sit back and wait and see. If it's not meant to be it's not meant to be, but they are trying even in their own way | 19:42 |
| czajkowski | pleia2: aye that s the correct way to mentor I beleive | 19:42 |
| vorian | right | 19:43 |
| czajkowski | goals and timelines right now, won't help a team perform imo | 19:43 |
| vorian | true, but activities would help out a lot | 19:45 |
| czajkowski | vorian: I know, but if the team can they will, if they can't forcing them to become active won't help them in the long run | 19:46 |
| czajkowski | it'll only be a stop gap | 19:46 |
| czajkowski | and that's not helpful | 19:46 |
| * vorian and team was able to get Ohio approved in 3 months | 19:47 | |
| paultag | BRB | 19:47 |
| czajkowski | vorian: just because you can do it in 3months doesn't make it a good thing, or something all teams should strive for | 19:48 |
| czajkowski | if it takes 3 months, 13 months or 3 years | 19:48 |
| czajkowski | as long as a team are happy and being active it really doesn't matter tbh | 19:48 |
| vorian | it seemed quite the accomplishment at the time, it's too bad it's looked down on now days | 19:49 |
| czajkowski | vorian: I did not say that at all. I'm saying it may not be the goal for every team | 19:49 |
| czajkowski | just because you tick the boxes doesn't make it all good | 19:49 |
| czajkowski | a team is more than that imo | 19:50 |
| vorian | yes, clearly I don't fit in with Idaho | 19:50 |
| vorian | for shame | 19:50 |
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