[12:59] Happy new year [13:01] mhall119: i'm not a french translator, they know how to correct the strange sentences btw ;) [13:01] * YoBoY hugs mhall119 === kinoucho` is now known as kinouchou [15:37] mornin [17:49] cjohnston: busy night [18:38] Hello, world! [19:29] yo paultag [19:30] what't the plan for -ID? [19:31] vorian: we sent you a mail back there before Christmas regarding it [19:31] yo vorian [19:31] czajkowski: i remember no such mailing :( [19:33] * vorian see's it now [19:33] it was sent on the 17th december [19:34] so pretty much butt out and let the team continue to fail [19:34] I can do that [19:34] vorian: please don't see it that way, see it as a way to help them [19:35] they don't seem to want my help [19:35] which is cool, they are all 6 hours away from me [19:35] well have you talked to them? in a meeting or something ? [19:36] they don't have meetings, or use the ml, or use the forums [19:36] so how do they communicate? [19:36] I havent been let in on that secret [19:37] I would love to help, but these guys have no idea of a loco team, and frankly it doesn't look like they care [19:38] maybe I would be better suited in mentoring a team who want's help [19:40] vorian: no need to say things like let in on a secrete it's not very helpful :s [19:40] vorian: if there isn't a strong leader in a team reaching out to ask for help, a mentor isn't going to be very effective anyway [19:41] pleia2: hiya! [19:41] hi czajkowski :) [19:41] I don't think Idaho would be my choice of teams to mentor at this point [19:42] a team has to want to help itself, mostly when I "mentor" teams it means I hang out in their channel and when they have a question they just ping me, I don't push them in any direction, I don't give advice unless asked directly, it works very well, the team just needs to know they can ask me, or here, or the loco council, or *someone* when they have questions [19:42] vorian: maybe just sit back and wait and see. If it's not meant to be it's not meant to be, but they are trying even in their own way [19:42] pleia2: aye that s the correct way to mentor I beleive [19:43] right [19:43] goals and timelines right now, won't help a team perform imo [19:45] true, but activities would help out a lot [19:46] vorian: I know, but if the team can they will, if they can't forcing them to become active won't help them in the long run [19:46] it'll only be a stop gap [19:46] and that's not helpful [19:47] * vorian and team was able to get Ohio approved in 3 months [19:47] BRB [19:48] vorian: just because you can do it in 3months doesn't make it a good thing, or something all teams should strive for [19:48] if it takes 3 months, 13 months or 3 years [19:48] as long as a team are happy and being active it really doesn't matter tbh [19:49] it seemed quite the accomplishment at the time, it's too bad it's looked down on now days [19:49] vorian: I did not say that at all. I'm saying it may not be the goal for every team [19:49] just because you tick the boxes doesn't make it all good [19:50] a team is more than that imo [19:50] yes, clearly I don't fit in with Idaho [19:50] for shame