| rhalff | hi anyone using an audiofire here ? | 01:37 |
|---|---|---|
| rhalff | I'm trying to get a audiofire 2 to work | 01:37 |
| rhalff | I think it has the latest firmware, because It automatically updated it when I tried the device in windows | 01:37 |
| holstein | AH | 05:21 |
| holstein | hey tanders12 | 05:21 |
| holstein | happy new year :) | 05:21 |
| holstein | i see you got your rig working | 05:21 |
| tanders12 | not yet for me :) | 05:21 |
| tanders12 | but same to you | 05:21 |
| tanders12 | more or less | 05:21 |
| holstein | who knows whats up with that | 05:21 |
| holstein | tanders12: i filed a bug report... | 05:21 |
| * holstein looking... | 05:22 | |
| tanders12 | a bug for what exactly? | 05:22 |
| holstein | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio/+bug/695893 | 05:22 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 695893 in Ubuntu Studio "JACK wont start with presonus firepod and generic kernel" [Undecided,New] | 05:22 |
| tanders12 | oh | 05:22 |
| holstein | tanders12: maybe you could mark yourself 'affected' | 05:22 |
| holstein | and add the device you have | 05:22 |
| tanders12 | sure thing | 05:22 |
| holstein | i should have left it more vauge now that i think about it... | 05:23 |
| tanders12 | right now I'm trying to get ffado-mixer working with af4 | 05:23 |
| holstein | AH | 05:23 |
| holstein | i dont need that either | 05:23 |
| holstein | the firepod just has knobs | 05:23 |
| tanders12 | did you read all the details on how I got mine working? | 05:23 |
| holstein | i skimmed | 05:24 |
| holstein | let me look back there... | 05:24 |
| holstein | tanders12: OH | 05:24 |
| holstein | about the xruns | 05:24 |
| holstein | tanders12: do you know what firewire chipset you have? | 05:25 |
| holstein | i have several texas instrument chipsets because they work *so* well | 05:25 |
| holstein | you can see it running | 05:25 |
| holstein | lspci | 05:25 |
| holstein | in a terminal | 05:25 |
| tanders12 | 08:03.1 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments PCIxx12 OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller | 05:25 |
| holstein | AH | 05:25 |
| holstein | sweet :) | 05:25 |
| holstein | thats the goods | 05:25 |
| tanders12 | for sure | 05:25 |
| holstein | tanders12: check in a terminal | 05:26 |
| tanders12 | i just happened to have it builtin my vaio. lucked out | 05:26 |
| holstein | cat /proc/interrupts | 05:26 |
| tanders12 | 16: 89 85437 IO-APIC-fasteoi firewire_ohci, yenta, i915 | 05:26 |
| holstein | hmmm | 05:26 |
| holstein | not ideal | 05:26 |
| holstein | tanders12: i915 is the graphics? | 05:27 |
| tanders12 | what's it mean? | 05:27 |
| tanders12 | not sure... | 05:27 |
| holstein | well, ideally | 05:27 |
| holstein | firewire_ohci | 05:27 |
| holstein | would be alone | 05:27 |
| holstein | sometimes you can set that in the bios | 05:27 |
| tanders12 | ah the bus is shared? | 05:27 |
| tanders12 | hm that's good to know | 05:27 |
| holstein | BUT not usually on laptopts | 05:27 |
| tanders12 | ill try next time i reboot | 05:27 |
| tanders12 | what's yenta? | 05:28 |
| holstein | theres also some internal linux magic that you can do im told | 05:28 |
| holstein | tanders12: im prettly sure i915 is the intel graphics | 05:28 |
| holstein | but yenta | 05:28 |
| tanders12 | keep in mind that I didn't put much effort into getting rid of the xruns yet, such as turning off compiz, shutting stuff down, etc | 05:28 |
| holstein | im going to have to google | 05:29 |
| holstein | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=847971 | 05:30 |
| holstein | i guess yenta is PCMCIA | 05:30 |
| tanders12 | sry | 05:35 |
| tanders12 | gnome froze. second time tonight, weird | 05:35 |
| tanders12 | i think I might have hosed some stuff with everything I've been installing lately :) | 05:36 |
| holstein | yeah, i got some issues on my server box too | 05:40 |
| holstein | running sloooow | 05:40 |
| holstein | hmmm | 05:42 |
| holstein | maybe its the internet... | 05:42 |
| tanders12 | maybe | 05:44 |
| tanders12 | so basically i don't know how I got JACK working, but I think it had to do with this: http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-multimedia/ffado.git;a=blob_plain;f=debian/60-ffado.rules | 05:44 |
| tanders12 | I added that file to /liv/udev/rules.d | 05:45 |
| tanders12 | it didn't work right away, but later that night it started working for some reason, on all of my kernels | 05:45 |
| holstein | hmmm | 05:46 |
| tanders12 | **/lib/udev/rules.d | 05:46 |
| holstein | plausible | 05:46 |
| holstein | that would be specific to your hardware too | 05:46 |
| holstein | right? | 05:46 |
| tanders12 | i did a couple other things to thougn so im not sure | 05:46 |
| tanders12 | idk | 05:46 |
| ailo_ | This is in essence the same thing that you did holstein, right, only this file contains instructions for specific devicew | 05:46 |
| tanders12 | https://ieee1394.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Juju_Migration | 05:46 |
| tanders12 | hail ailo :) | 05:46 |
| holstein | ailo_: HEY | 05:47 |
| holstein | yeah, seems similar | 05:47 |
| ailo_ | Oh, and Happy New year.. | 05:48 |
| holstein | :) | 05:50 |
| tanders12 | so i was tellin ailo that i want to make a fresh install and see if I can figure out exactly what made this work | 05:51 |
| tanders12 | im curious now | 05:51 |
| holstein | sounds about right ;) | 05:51 |
| tanders12 | how much space does a vanilla ubuntu install take up? | 05:51 |
| holstein | hmmm | 05:51 |
| holstein | 2gb? | 05:51 |
| holstein | maybe more | 05:52 |
| holstein | i can fit an install on a 4gb SD card | 05:52 |
| holstein | actually, i think i fit an ubuntustudio install on a 4gb carg | 05:52 |
| holstein | card* | 05:52 |
| tanders12 | hm that's good. Should be able to make space for a testbed | 05:55 |
| tanders12 | Ho | 08:02 |
| tanders12 | holstein or ailo you guys around? | 08:02 |
| tanders12 | K well when you get back I've confirmed that with a fresh updated install of Maverick with an Audiofire 4 after installing libffado2 followed by jack2 (and letting jack set up real time stuff), and adding user to audio group, it does not work. However, I then added the Debian 60-ffado.rules file to /lib/udev/rules.d, rebooted, and it works. | 08:11 |
| === rhalff_ is now known as rhalff | ||
| rhalff | anyone got this working with an audiofire2 ? | 11:21 |
| virtu | hi 4 all | 17:28 |
| virtu | happy new year | 17:28 |
| holstein | virtu: indeed :) | 17:28 |
| holstein | happy new year!! | 17:28 |
| virtu | tks holstein =) | 17:30 |
| virtu | a friend of mine has a macbook for sale... with a great brazilian prive | 17:31 |
| virtu | price | 17:31 |
| virtu | but I dont know if it is a nice deal | 17:31 |
| holstein | i have a specific limit for what i spent on apple products | 17:31 |
| holstein | spend* | 17:32 |
| holstein | virtu: what are the specs? | 17:32 |
| virtu | he is selling for R$ 1.200,00 with C2D 2.0ghz, 1GB RAM 80GB HD | 17:32 |
| holstein | hmmm | 17:33 |
| holstein | whats R$ again? | 17:33 |
| holstein | i'll have to do transfer that | 17:33 |
| virtu | Brazilian Real money | 17:33 |
| * holstein looking | 17:33 | |
| virtu | U$ 1,00 = R$ 1,75 | 17:33 |
| holstein | hmmm | 17:33 |
| virtu | a brand new mac costs almost R$ 3.000,00 | 17:34 |
| holstein | thats about what the new mabooks are going for here | 17:34 |
| holstein | virtu: thats probably a macbook pro | 17:34 |
| holstein | or something fancy | 17:34 |
| virtu | sure... | 17:34 |
| ailo | Those specs look a bit old, no? | 17:34 |
| holstein | if i were spending 3000 | 17:34 |
| holstein | i would want 4 cores | 17:34 |
| holstein | or an iwhatever | 17:34 |
| holstein | and some memory capacity at least | 17:35 |
| virtu | ailo: sure... that´s my point of discussion... nice deal getting a macbook with that specs? | 17:35 |
| holstein | i say no | 17:35 |
| virtu | a sony vaio | 17:35 |
| virtu | core i3 500gb | 17:35 |
| virtu | 4gb | 17:35 |
| virtu | for R$ 2.199,00 | 17:35 |
| virtu | brand new | 17:35 |
| holstein | a comparable non-apple machine like that would be a hundered bucks US | 17:35 |
| holstein | or free if your in the right place at the right time | 17:36 |
| virtu | for free? get one for me =D | 17:36 |
| holstein | sure | 17:36 |
| * virtu right now is on vacation at my mothers house | 17:36 | |
| holstein | i'll COD it | 17:36 |
| holstein | it'll cost $400 to ship it to you ;P | 17:37 |
| virtu | tks holstein =) heheh | 17:37 |
| virtu | USPS PMI | 17:37 |
| holstein | http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Apple%26%23174;+-+MacBook%26%23174;+/+Intel%26%23174;+Core%26%23153;2+Duo+Processor+/+13.3%22+Display+/+2GB+Memory+/+250GB+Hard+Drive+-+White/9944833.p?id=1218199185981&skuId=9944833 | 17:37 |
| holstein | does that link work? | 17:37 |
| holstein | its nasty... sorry | 17:38 |
| holstein | thats a 1000 US | 17:38 |
| virtu | a FRE (flat rate envelope priority) with 5 shirts costs U$ 18,95 to ship here | 17:38 |
| holstein | new | 17:38 |
| virtu | link didnt work | 17:38 |
| holstein | at a box store | 17:38 |
| holstein | http://tinyurl.com/2wwubhj | 17:39 |
| holstein | thats twice the ram | 17:39 |
| holstein | much bigger HD | 17:39 |
| holstein | half the price | 17:39 |
| holstein | and new | 17:39 |
| virtu | next monday I will buy a new desktop for my mom | 17:40 |
| virtu | this one are too old =( | 17:40 |
| virtu | and maybe get a new notebook for me | 17:40 |
| holstein | i want to get something from http://www.system76.com/ | 17:41 |
| holstein | i just dont need anything now | 17:41 |
| virtu | http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-MacBook-C2D-2-4G-13-160G-2G-DVD-RW-WiFi-11n-Mint-/350425017509?pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item5196f56ca5#ht_2244wt_1136 | 17:46 |
| holstein | thats more like it | 17:46 |
| holstein | still | 17:46 |
| holstein | you can get a comparable PC for a third of that i bet | 17:46 |
| holstein | and at what cost? | 17:47 |
| holstein | so you can run OSX ? | 17:47 |
| holstein | not worth it to me | 17:47 |
| holstein | i bought snow leopard | 17:47 |
| holstein | and i like it OK | 17:47 |
| holstein | i like the price point | 17:47 |
| holstein | 30 bucks US | 17:47 |
| virtu | yes... I have to agree with you... never played with mac before and it seems to much money to spent | 17:47 |
| holstein | still, i wouldnt have paid 3 or 4 times the price just to use it | 17:48 |
| holstein | i got the macbook for free | 17:48 |
| * virtu running on a Celeron(R) 2.80ghz with 1.5GB RAM with a crappy motherboard =( | 17:52 | |
| virtu | mother´s desktop | 17:52 |
| holstein | i dont know | 17:53 |
| holstein | depends on what you're doing i suppose | 17:53 |
| holstein | if your not keeping up with modern games | 17:54 |
| holstein | or doing a bunch of video editing | 17:54 |
| holstein | prolly just fine | 17:54 |
| virtu | here with this desk my mother has some trouble surfing the web with she access a website with some nice images | 17:54 |
| holstein | my EEEpc | 17:55 |
| holstein | 900mhz | 17:55 |
| holstein | gig of ram | 17:55 |
| holstein | loads pages and images from the net just fine | 17:55 |
| virtu | so first she needs a new simple one... and me... will save some money... that´s my opinion now... will change my note later this new year | 17:55 |
| holstein | i would say thats a browser, OS, or network issue | 17:56 |
| ailo | I'd say the celeron pc can be used for most things, just need to update your graphic card. | 17:56 |
| virtu | holstein: the big problem here is the onboard video card + bad motherboard performance | 17:56 |
| virtu | ailo: you are right... | 17:56 |
| virtu | the good thing is that my mom said that budget is for 450U$ to spend | 17:57 |
| virtu | so I will change everything | 17:57 |
| holstein | i have to be careful when i go downstairs and not trip on old audio cards ;) | 17:57 |
| virtu | motherboard + proc + video card | 17:57 |
| holstein | you can get them for $2 here | 17:57 |
| holstein | at a charity shop | 17:57 |
| ailo | I bought a new amd X2 for around 250$, excluding a hard drive | 17:57 |
| ailo | In parts | 17:57 |
| holstein | again, that sounds like an OS/driver issue | 17:58 |
| holstein | virtu: is it running windows? | 17:58 |
| virtu | ailo: in USA all items are very cheap then here in brazil =( | 17:58 |
| ailo | I'm not in US | 17:58 |
| virtu | holstein: yes... windows XP here | 17:58 |
| virtu | ailo: sorry | 17:58 |
| holstein | well, thats the problem | 17:58 |
| ailo | But, I'm sure it depends a lot on location | 17:59 |
| holstein | probably could re-install windows | 17:59 |
| holstein | check some drivers | 17:59 |
| holstein | i installed ubuntu on my moms laptop | 17:59 |
| holstein | locked it down a bit | 17:59 |
| holstein | works great | 17:59 |
| holstein | not totally bullet-proof i suppose | 17:59 |
| holstein | but i dont get 'those calls' anymore | 17:59 |
| virtu | holstein: I will do that after I get the new one... this one I will donate to a School near by | 18:00 |
| holstein | interesting | 18:00 |
| virtu | so I will install ubuntu and check all the hardware... after that will donate it | 18:00 |
| holstein | i got a faster PC as my production rig | 18:00 |
| holstein | but just because i found one | 18:01 |
| holstein | the one i had til about 6 months ago was slower than that | 18:01 |
| holstein | 2.4 with a gig of ram | 18:01 |
| holstein | worked great | 18:01 |
| holstein | i mean, do what you want | 18:01 |
| holstein | but, you dont *need* to upgrade that PC | 18:02 |
| ailo | I agree. For normal use, office/internet, all you need is a descent graphic card for web content. The cheapest new cards can do. | 18:04 |
| holstein | yeah, a 64mb card would do the job | 18:04 |
| holstein | OR some integrated GPU | 18:04 |
| virtu | tomorrow I will open this gabinet to see waht kind of slot is there available | 18:05 |
| holstein | for the sound card? | 18:05 |
| holstein | you'll have PCI slots | 18:05 |
| virtu | video card | 18:05 |
| holstein | that should be AGP | 18:05 |
| virtu | agp or pci | 18:05 |
| holstein | its of that vintage | 18:05 |
| holstein | not PCI express | 18:05 |
| virtu | aham | 18:05 |
| holstein | could be though | 18:05 |
| holstein | virtu: get you an ubuntu live CD | 18:06 |
| holstein | put it in there | 18:06 |
| virtu | pvi express is newer than this desk motherboard | 18:06 |
| holstein | and check out how it runs | 18:06 |
| virtu | good idea.. | 18:06 |
| holstein | you could do a WUBI install | 18:06 |
| holstein | or dual boot | 18:06 |
| holstein | really tweak the UI for your mom | 18:07 |
| holstein | make it stupid easy and unbreakable | 18:07 |
| virtu | I already have a 64bits iso image here... but it will not load nice on this desk, right? | 18:07 |
| holstein | hmmm | 18:07 |
| holstein | i think thats a 32bit proc right? | 18:07 |
| virtu | yes... | 18:08 |
| holstein | yeah | 18:08 |
| holstein | you'll need the other iso | 18:08 |
| virtu | willl download now | 18:08 |
| virtu | also this keyboard sucks =P | 18:08 |
| ailo | holstein: do you know anything about the rtirq-init script? Never paid any attention on how it is installed, or when | 18:08 |
| holstein | ailo: i havent needed to mess with it | 18:09 |
| holstein | i saw it go down once | 18:09 |
| holstein | some tweaking | 18:09 |
| holstein | over in the OSMP channnel | 18:09 |
| ailo | Just read for firewire cards on the new stack you need to change the script. | 18:09 |
| holstein | hmmm | 18:09 |
| ailo | change a name somewhere | 18:09 |
| holstein | this would have been 10.04 | 18:09 |
| holstein | actually, that might have been a debian user | 18:10 |
| holstein | ailo: i need to look at AVlinux again | 18:10 |
| holstein | seems like there are some tweaks there for firewire | 18:10 |
| holstein | that US could use | 18:10 |
| ailo | Ok, I think I'll need to read more about it. Don't know if the script is needed with lowlatency, or if it does any good. | 18:10 |
| holstein | probably just little things like that | 18:11 |
| holstein | ailo: we are the US firewire dev team | 18:11 |
| holstein | by the way ;) | 18:11 |
| holstein | you and I | 18:11 |
| ailo | holstein: ok, that's fine with me :) | 18:11 |
| * virtu trying to find a video card with some local friends here | 18:14 | |
| holstein | virtu: what card do you have? | 18:14 |
| holstein | integrated intel? | 18:15 |
| virtu | let me see here | 18:15 |
| holstein | those are well supported in linux usually | 18:15 |
| virtu | SIS661FX | 18:15 |
| holstein | AH | 18:15 |
| holstein | ive had bad luck with those in linux | 18:16 |
| holstein | still, should be fine with XP | 18:16 |
| virtu | this motherboard is a crappy =/ | 18:16 |
| virtu | all drivers are ok | 18:16 |
| holstein | well, XP says they are OK ;) | 18:16 |
| virtu | and when a new line on the chat appears it loads after a second =/ | 18:16 |
| virtu | crappy in the meaning of performance... this desk works great at his time =) | 18:17 |
| holstein | http://www.sis.com/support/support_faqs_4.htm | 18:19 |
| ailo | virtu, I had problems with Geforce 3, so I know those are too old. On Windows you'll propably be happy with anything newer than that. Mostly I find the problem is in displaying Flash content. | 18:20 |
| virtu | let me try the univga3 driver from holstein site | 18:21 |
| virtu | didint work =/ | 18:34 |
| holstein | virtu: no better? | 18:34 |
| holstein | or didnt work? | 18:35 |
| holstein | virtu: are you up to date? | 18:35 |
| holstein | service pack 3 or whatever | 18:35 |
| holstein | well, anyways, this is getting to be windows support... | 18:35 |
| virtu | didnt work... the setup from driver said that this model isnt compatible with new support =/ | 18:35 |
| holstein | i just wanted to say | 18:35 |
| holstein | get a new computer if you want | 18:35 |
| holstein | BUT just because you want to | 18:35 |
| virtu | =) I will try save money | 18:36 |
| holstein | not because that one aint happenin' | 18:36 |
| virtu | tomorrow I will get a video card borrow | 18:36 |
| holstein | i think you're seeing some OS, driver, or network issues | 18:36 |
| holstein | that box really should be screamin along with XP and/or any linux | 18:36 |
| virtu | let me restart here | 18:37 |
| virtu | brb | 18:37 |
| holstein | hey rhalff | 19:53 |
| holstein | you got an audiofire? | 19:54 |
| holstein | http://www.ffado.org/?q=devicesupport/list&filter0=&filter1=audiofire&op2=OR | 19:55 |
| holstein | rhalff: are you running 10.10? | 19:55 |
| holstein | if you are | 19:56 |
| holstein | i would suggest http://jackschnippes.freeunix.net/index.php/2010/11/04/lowlatency-kernel-and-realtime-kernel-for-ubuntu-10-10-maverick | 19:56 |
| holstein | also, you will need to be in the audio and video groups | 19:56 |
| holstein | sudo adduser you audio | 19:56 |
| holstein | and/or | 19:56 |
| holstein | sudo adduser you video | 19:57 |
| holstein | ALSO | 19:57 |
| holstein | i used to use... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firewire | 19:57 |
| holstein | BUT recently a user came in and said that... | 19:57 |
| holstein | http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-multimedia/ffado.git;a=blob_plain;f=debian/60-ffado.rules | 19:58 |
| holstein | was helpful | 19:58 |
| === niark_niark is now known as gniourf_gniourf | ||
| pgahlen | hi | 21:04 |
| pgahlen | I have a question anybody here? | 21:04 |
| holstein | pgahlen: whats up? | 21:04 |
| pgahlen | :D | 21:05 |
| pgahlen | ok ... i would like to install ubuntu-studio, but i have a problem . one week ago i tried to install ubuntu with the alternate cd and there was no desktop | 21:06 |
| pgahlen | is it the same with the alternate of ubuntu-studio? | 21:06 |
| holstein | yup | 21:06 |
| holstein | ubuntu = ubuntustudio | 21:06 |
| pgahlen | hm ... ok | 21:07 |
| holstein | pgahlen: i would get a live CD | 21:07 |
| holstein | and try some things | 21:07 |
| pgahlen | where can i find it? | 21:07 |
| holstein | i think when you first boot in | 21:07 |
| holstein | you hi t F6 | 21:07 |
| holstein | hit* | 21:07 |
| holstein | and select nomodeset | 21:07 |
| holstein | you'll want the equivalent of 'safe graphics mode' | 21:07 |
| holstein | see if that helps | 21:08 |
| pgahlen | ok ... but i have to download the alternate? | 21:08 |
| holstein | http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download | 21:08 |
| holstein | pgahlen: just get the normal live one | 21:08 |
| holstein | there are lots of different kinds of iso images | 21:08 |
| holstein | 32bit | 21:08 |
| pgahlen | im running the normal | 21:08 |
| holstein | 64bit | 21:08 |
| holstein | pgahlen: you already have ubuntu installed? | 21:09 |
| pgahlen | yup | 21:09 |
| holstein | and you dont have a dekstop? | 21:09 |
| holstein | just a blank screen? | 21:09 |
| pgahlen | no i have a desktop and i'm work on it but i want to install studio | 21:09 |
| holstein | OK | 21:10 |
| holstein | pgahlen: you dont *have* to install ubuntustudio | 21:10 |
| holstein | ubuntustudio is just a collection of packages | 21:10 |
| holstein | metapackages | 21:10 |
| holstein | you can think of it like kubuntu | 21:10 |
| holstein | or xubuntu | 21:10 |
| holstein | they all use the ubuntu repos | 21:10 |
| pgahlen | ubuntu is a collection too -.- | 21:10 |
| pgahlen | yep | 21:10 |
| holstein | pgahlen: you can just install what software you want | 21:11 |
| holstein | you can search synaptic or apt-cache search or whatever | 21:11 |
| holstein | for ubuntustudio | 21:11 |
| holstein | and read about the metapackages | 21:11 |
| holstein | you can check out | 21:11 |
| holstein | !vanilla | 21:11 |
| ubottu | To install Ubuntu Studio on top of a vanilla Ubuntu install, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation | 21:11 |
| holstein | there are several packages just for the theme-ing | 21:11 |
| holstein | which is great looking, but you may not want to change your current setup | 21:12 |
| holstein | i usually get ubuntustudio-audio and ubuntustudio-audio-plugins | 21:12 |
| holstein | BUT, if all you want is JACK and ardour | 21:12 |
| holstein | you can just install the individual packages you want | 21:12 |
| pgahlen | ^^ no i want to install the image-manipulating software | 21:13 |
| holstein | pgahlen: the gimp? | 21:13 |
| pgahlen | thats too | 21:13 |
| holstein | you probably just want ubuntustudio-graphics - Ubuntu Studio graphics Package | 21:14 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-graphics | 21:14 |
| holstein | OR you can just search for whatever sofware you're interested in | 21:14 |
| pgahlen | ^^ 416 MBs to Download wuuuuhuuuuuuu | 21:14 |
| holstein | and install it | 21:14 |
| holstein | pgahlen: right | 21:15 |
| holstein | its a meta-package | 21:15 |
| holstein | lots of stuff you might not want | 21:15 |
| pgahlen | i only have a 20KB/s WLAN connection ... i will search for the packages ^^ | 21:15 |
| pgahlen | ok but thanks for your help | 21:16 |
| holstein | the alternate installers dont have a 'live mode' | 21:16 |
| holstein | that might be what you were encountering before | 21:16 |
| holstein | ubuntustudio uses that alternate style installer | 21:16 |
| pgahlen | but when it is installed there is a normal gnome desktop? | 21:17 |
| holstein | depends | 21:18 |
| holstein | ubuntustudio uses gnome | 21:18 |
| holstein | so in that case | 21:18 |
| holstein | yeah | 21:18 |
| holstein | BUT the server isntall for example | 21:18 |
| holstein | that would be an alternate installer | 21:18 |
| holstein | with no DE | 21:18 |
| holstein | http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubuntustudio-graphics | 21:18 |
| holstein | ^^ lists all the packages in the ubuntustudio-graphics metapackage | 21:18 |
| holstein | you'll probably just want the gimp and inkscape | 21:19 |
| holstein | maybe scribus | 21:19 |
| holstein | i think those are the popular ones | 21:19 |
| holstein | pgahlen: could be a bad downloaded image | 21:22 |
| holstein | hmmm.... | 21:22 |
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