[01:37] hi anyone using an audiofire here ? [01:37] I'm trying to get a audiofire 2 to work [01:37] I think it has the latest firmware, because It automatically updated it when I tried the device in windows [05:21] AH [05:21] hey tanders12 [05:21] happy new year :) [05:21] i see you got your rig working [05:21] not yet for me :) [05:21] but same to you [05:21] more or less [05:21] who knows whats up with that [05:21] tanders12: i filed a bug report... [05:22] * holstein looking... [05:22] a bug for what exactly? [05:22] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio/+bug/695893 [05:22] Ubuntu bug 695893 in Ubuntu Studio "JACK wont start with presonus firepod and generic kernel" [Undecided,New] [05:22] oh [05:22] tanders12: maybe you could mark yourself 'affected' [05:22] and add the device you have [05:22] sure thing [05:23] i should have left it more vauge now that i think about it... [05:23] right now I'm trying to get ffado-mixer working with af4 [05:23] AH [05:23] i dont need that either [05:23] the firepod just has knobs [05:23] did you read all the details on how I got mine working? [05:24] i skimmed [05:24] let me look back there... [05:24] tanders12: OH [05:24] about the xruns [05:25] tanders12: do you know what firewire chipset you have? [05:25] i have several texas instrument chipsets because they work *so* well [05:25] you can see it running [05:25] lspci [05:25] in a terminal [05:25] 08:03.1 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments PCIxx12 OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller [05:25] AH [05:25] sweet :) [05:25] thats the goods [05:25] for sure [05:26] tanders12: check in a terminal [05:26] i just happened to have it builtin my vaio. lucked out [05:26] cat /proc/interrupts [05:26] 16: 89 85437 IO-APIC-fasteoi firewire_ohci, yenta, i915 [05:26] hmmm [05:26] not ideal [05:27] tanders12: i915 is the graphics? [05:27] what's it mean? [05:27] not sure... [05:27] well, ideally [05:27] firewire_ohci [05:27] would be alone [05:27] sometimes you can set that in the bios [05:27] ah the bus is shared? [05:27] hm that's good to know [05:27] BUT not usually on laptopts [05:27] ill try next time i reboot [05:28] what's yenta? [05:28] theres also some internal linux magic that you can do im told [05:28] tanders12: im prettly sure i915 is the intel graphics [05:28] but yenta [05:28] keep in mind that I didn't put much effort into getting rid of the xruns yet, such as turning off compiz, shutting stuff down, etc [05:29] im going to have to google [05:30] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=847971 [05:30] i guess yenta is PCMCIA [05:35] sry [05:35] gnome froze. second time tonight, weird [05:36] i think I might have hosed some stuff with everything I've been installing lately :) [05:40] yeah, i got some issues on my server box too [05:40] running sloooow [05:42] hmmm [05:42] maybe its the internet... [05:44] maybe [05:44] so basically i don't know how I got JACK working, but I think it had to do with this: http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-multimedia/ffado.git;a=blob_plain;f=debian/60-ffado.rules [05:45] I added that file to /liv/udev/rules.d [05:45] it didn't work right away, but later that night it started working for some reason, on all of my kernels [05:46] hmmm [05:46] **/lib/udev/rules.d [05:46] plausible [05:46] that would be specific to your hardware too [05:46] right? [05:46] i did a couple other things to thougn so im not sure [05:46] idk [05:46] This is in essence the same thing that you did holstein, right, only this file contains instructions for specific devicew [05:46] https://ieee1394.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Juju_Migration [05:46] hail ailo :) [05:47] ailo_: HEY [05:47] yeah, seems similar [05:48] Oh, and Happy New year.. [05:50] :) [05:51] so i was tellin ailo that i want to make a fresh install and see if I can figure out exactly what made this work [05:51] im curious now [05:51] sounds about right ;) [05:51] how much space does a vanilla ubuntu install take up? [05:51] hmmm [05:51] 2gb? [05:52] maybe more [05:52] i can fit an install on a 4gb SD card [05:52] actually, i think i fit an ubuntustudio install on a 4gb carg [05:52] card* [05:55] hm that's good. Should be able to make space for a testbed [08:02] Ho [08:02] holstein or ailo you guys around? [08:11] K well when you get back I've confirmed that with a fresh updated install of Maverick with an Audiofire 4 after installing libffado2 followed by jack2 (and letting jack set up real time stuff), and adding user to audio group, it does not work. However, I then added the Debian 60-ffado.rules file to /lib/udev/rules.d, rebooted, and it works. === rhalff_ is now known as rhalff [11:21] anyone got this working with an audiofire2 ? [17:28] hi 4 all [17:28] happy new year [17:28] virtu: indeed :) [17:28] happy new year!! [17:30] tks holstein =) [17:31] a friend of mine has a macbook for sale... with a great brazilian prive [17:31] price [17:31] but I dont know if it is a nice deal [17:31] i have a specific limit for what i spent on apple products [17:32] spend* [17:32] virtu: what are the specs? [17:32] he is selling for R$ 1.200,00 with C2D 2.0ghz, 1GB RAM 80GB HD [17:33] hmmm [17:33] whats R$ again? [17:33] i'll have to do transfer that [17:33] Brazilian Real money [17:33] * holstein looking [17:33] U$ 1,00 = R$ 1,75 [17:33] hmmm [17:34] a brand new mac costs almost R$ 3.000,00 [17:34] thats about what the new mabooks are going for here [17:34] virtu: thats probably a macbook pro [17:34] or something fancy [17:34] sure... [17:34] Those specs look a bit old, no? [17:34] if i were spending 3000 [17:34] i would want 4 cores [17:34] or an iwhatever [17:35] and some memory capacity at least [17:35] ailo: sure... that´s my point of discussion... nice deal getting a macbook with that specs? [17:35] i say no [17:35] a sony vaio [17:35] core i3 500gb [17:35] 4gb [17:35] for R$ 2.199,00 [17:35] brand new [17:35] a comparable non-apple machine like that would be a hundered bucks US [17:36] or free if your in the right place at the right time [17:36] for free? get one for me =D [17:36] sure [17:36] * virtu right now is on vacation at my mothers house [17:36] i'll COD it [17:37] it'll cost $400 to ship it to you ;P [17:37] tks holstein =) heheh [17:37] USPS PMI [17:37] http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Apple%26%23174;+-+MacBook%26%23174;+/+Intel%26%23174;+Core%26%23153;2+Duo+Processor+/+13.3%22+Display+/+2GB+Memory+/+250GB+Hard+Drive+-+White/9944833.p?id=1218199185981&skuId=9944833 [17:37] does that link work? [17:38] its nasty... sorry [17:38] thats a 1000 US [17:38] a FRE (flat rate envelope priority) with 5 shirts costs U$ 18,95 to ship here [17:38] new [17:38] link didnt work [17:38] at a box store [17:39] http://tinyurl.com/2wwubhj [17:39] thats twice the ram [17:39] much bigger HD [17:39] half the price [17:39] and new [17:40] next monday I will buy a new desktop for my mom [17:40] this one are too old =( [17:40] and maybe get a new notebook for me [17:41] i want to get something from http://www.system76.com/ [17:41] i just dont need anything now [17:46] http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-MacBook-C2D-2-4G-13-160G-2G-DVD-RW-WiFi-11n-Mint-/350425017509?pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item5196f56ca5#ht_2244wt_1136 [17:46] thats more like it [17:46] still [17:46] you can get a comparable PC for a third of that i bet [17:47] and at what cost? [17:47] so you can run OSX ? [17:47] not worth it to me [17:47] i bought snow leopard [17:47] and i like it OK [17:47] i like the price point [17:47] 30 bucks US [17:47] yes... I have to agree with you... never played with mac before and it seems to much money to spent [17:48] still, i wouldnt have paid 3 or 4 times the price just to use it [17:48] i got the macbook for free [17:52] * virtu running on a Celeron(R) 2.80ghz with 1.5GB RAM with a crappy motherboard =( [17:52] mother´s desktop [17:53] i dont know [17:53] depends on what you're doing i suppose [17:54] if your not keeping up with modern games [17:54] or doing a bunch of video editing [17:54] prolly just fine [17:54] here with this desk my mother has some trouble surfing the web with she access a website with some nice images [17:55] my EEEpc [17:55] 900mhz [17:55] gig of ram [17:55] loads pages and images from the net just fine [17:55] so first she needs a new simple one... and me... will save some money... that´s my opinion now... will change my note later this new year [17:56] i would say thats a browser, OS, or network issue [17:56] I'd say the celeron pc can be used for most things, just need to update your graphic card. [17:56] holstein: the big problem here is the onboard video card + bad motherboard performance [17:56] ailo: you are right... [17:57] the good thing is that my mom said that budget is for 450U$ to spend [17:57] so I will change everything [17:57] i have to be careful when i go downstairs and not trip on old audio cards ;) [17:57] motherboard + proc + video card [17:57] you can get them for $2 here [17:57] at a charity shop [17:57] I bought a new amd X2 for around 250$, excluding a hard drive [17:57] In parts [17:58] again, that sounds like an OS/driver issue [17:58] virtu: is it running windows? [17:58] ailo: in USA all items are very cheap then here in brazil =( [17:58] I'm not in US [17:58] holstein: yes... windows XP here [17:58] ailo: sorry [17:58] well, thats the problem [17:59] But, I'm sure it depends a lot on location [17:59] probably could re-install windows [17:59] check some drivers [17:59] i installed ubuntu on my moms laptop [17:59] locked it down a bit [17:59] works great [17:59] not totally bullet-proof i suppose [17:59] but i dont get 'those calls' anymore [18:00] holstein: I will do that after I get the new one... this one I will donate to a School near by [18:00] interesting [18:00] so I will install ubuntu and check all the hardware... after that will donate it [18:00] i got a faster PC as my production rig [18:01] but just because i found one [18:01] the one i had til about 6 months ago was slower than that [18:01] 2.4 with a gig of ram [18:01] worked great [18:01] i mean, do what you want [18:02] but, you dont *need* to upgrade that PC [18:04] I agree. For normal use, office/internet, all you need is a descent graphic card for web content. The cheapest new cards can do. [18:04] yeah, a 64mb card would do the job [18:04] OR some integrated GPU [18:05] tomorrow I will open this gabinet to see waht kind of slot is there available [18:05] for the sound card? [18:05] you'll have PCI slots [18:05] video card [18:05] that should be AGP [18:05] agp or pci [18:05] its of that vintage [18:05] not PCI express [18:05] aham [18:05] could be though [18:06] virtu: get you an ubuntu live CD [18:06] put it in there [18:06] pvi express is newer than this desk motherboard [18:06] and check out how it runs [18:06] good idea.. [18:06] you could do a WUBI install [18:06] or dual boot [18:07] really tweak the UI for your mom [18:07] make it stupid easy and unbreakable [18:07] I already have a 64bits iso image here... but it will not load nice on this desk, right? [18:07] hmmm [18:07] i think thats a 32bit proc right? [18:08] yes... [18:08] yeah [18:08] you'll need the other iso [18:08] willl download now [18:08] also this keyboard sucks =P [18:08] holstein: do you know anything about the rtirq-init script? Never paid any attention on how it is installed, or when [18:09] ailo: i havent needed to mess with it [18:09] i saw it go down once [18:09] some tweaking [18:09] over in the OSMP channnel [18:09] Just read for firewire cards on the new stack you need to change the script. [18:09] hmmm [18:09] change a name somewhere [18:09] this would have been 10.04 [18:10] actually, that might have been a debian user [18:10] ailo: i need to look at AVlinux again [18:10] seems like there are some tweaks there for firewire [18:10] that US could use [18:10] Ok, I think I'll need to read more about it. Don't know if the script is needed with lowlatency, or if it does any good. [18:11] probably just little things like that [18:11] ailo: we are the US firewire dev team [18:11] by the way ;) [18:11] you and I [18:11] holstein: ok, that's fine with me :) [18:14] * virtu trying to find a video card with some local friends here [18:14] virtu: what card do you have? [18:15] integrated intel? [18:15] let me see here [18:15] those are well supported in linux usually [18:15] SIS661FX [18:15] AH [18:16] ive had bad luck with those in linux [18:16] still, should be fine with XP [18:16] this motherboard is a crappy =/ [18:16] all drivers are ok [18:16] well, XP says they are OK ;) [18:16] and when a new line on the chat appears it loads after a second =/ [18:17] crappy in the meaning of performance... this desk works great at his time =) [18:19] http://www.sis.com/support/support_faqs_4.htm [18:20] virtu, I had problems with Geforce 3, so I know those are too old. On Windows you'll propably be happy with anything newer than that. Mostly I find the problem is in displaying Flash content. [18:21] let me try the univga3 driver from holstein site [18:34] didint work =/ [18:34] virtu: no better? [18:35] or didnt work? [18:35] virtu: are you up to date? [18:35] service pack 3 or whatever [18:35] well, anyways, this is getting to be windows support... [18:35] didnt work... the setup from driver said that this model isnt compatible with new support =/ [18:35] i just wanted to say [18:35] get a new computer if you want [18:35] BUT just because you want to [18:36] =) I will try save money [18:36] not because that one aint happenin' [18:36] tomorrow I will get a video card borrow [18:36] i think you're seeing some OS, driver, or network issues [18:36] that box really should be screamin along with XP and/or any linux [18:37] let me restart here [18:37] brb [19:53] hey rhalff [19:54] you got an audiofire? [19:55] http://www.ffado.org/?q=devicesupport/list&filter0=&filter1=audiofire&op2=OR [19:55] rhalff: are you running 10.10? [19:56] if you are [19:56] i would suggest http://jackschnippes.freeunix.net/index.php/2010/11/04/lowlatency-kernel-and-realtime-kernel-for-ubuntu-10-10-maverick [19:56] also, you will need to be in the audio and video groups [19:56] sudo adduser you audio [19:56] and/or [19:57] sudo adduser you video [19:57] ALSO [19:57] i used to use... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firewire [19:57] BUT recently a user came in and said that... [19:58] http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-multimedia/ffado.git;a=blob_plain;f=debian/60-ffado.rules [19:58] was helpful === niark_niark is now known as gniourf_gniourf [21:04] hi [21:04] I have a question anybody here? [21:04] pgahlen: whats up? [21:05] :D [21:06] ok ... i would like to install ubuntu-studio, but i have a problem . one week ago i tried to install ubuntu with the alternate cd and there was no desktop [21:06] is it the same with the alternate of ubuntu-studio? [21:06] yup [21:06] ubuntu = ubuntustudio [21:07] hm ... ok [21:07] pgahlen: i would get a live CD [21:07] and try some things [21:07] where can i find it? [21:07] i think when you first boot in [21:07] you hi t F6 [21:07] hit* [21:07] and select nomodeset [21:07] you'll want the equivalent of 'safe graphics mode' [21:08] see if that helps [21:08] ok ... but i have to download the alternate? [21:08] http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download [21:08] pgahlen: just get the normal live one [21:08] there are lots of different kinds of iso images [21:08] 32bit [21:08] im running the normal [21:08] 64bit [21:09] pgahlen: you already have ubuntu installed? [21:09] yup [21:09] and you dont have a dekstop? [21:09] just a blank screen? [21:09] no i have a desktop and i'm work on it but i want to install studio [21:10] OK [21:10] pgahlen: you dont *have* to install ubuntustudio [21:10] ubuntustudio is just a collection of packages [21:10] metapackages [21:10] you can think of it like kubuntu [21:10] or xubuntu [21:10] they all use the ubuntu repos [21:10] ubuntu is a collection too -.- [21:10] yep [21:11] pgahlen: you can just install what software you want [21:11] you can search synaptic or apt-cache search or whatever [21:11] for ubuntustudio [21:11] and read about the metapackages [21:11] you can check out [21:11] !vanilla [21:11] To install Ubuntu Studio on top of a vanilla Ubuntu install, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation [21:11] there are several packages just for the theme-ing [21:12] which is great looking, but you may not want to change your current setup [21:12] i usually get ubuntustudio-audio and ubuntustudio-audio-plugins [21:12] BUT, if all you want is JACK and ardour [21:12] you can just install the individual packages you want [21:13] ^^ no i want to install the image-manipulating software [21:13] pgahlen: the gimp? [21:13] thats too [21:14] you probably just want ubuntustudio-graphics - Ubuntu Studio graphics Package [21:14] sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-graphics [21:14] OR you can just search for whatever sofware you're interested in [21:14] ^^ 416 MBs to Download wuuuuhuuuuuuu [21:14] and install it [21:15] pgahlen: right [21:15] its a meta-package [21:15] lots of stuff you might not want [21:15] i only have a 20KB/s WLAN connection ... i will search for the packages ^^ [21:16] ok but thanks for your help [21:16] the alternate installers dont have a 'live mode' [21:16] that might be what you were encountering before [21:16] ubuntustudio uses that alternate style installer [21:17] but when it is installed there is a normal gnome desktop? [21:18] depends [21:18] ubuntustudio uses gnome [21:18] so in that case [21:18] yeah [21:18] BUT the server isntall for example [21:18] that would be an alternate installer [21:18] with no DE [21:18]