| penguin42 | when debugging applets, if I remove the applet from the panel, install a new package and readd the applet it still seems to be mapping the old (deleted) .so - is ther some way to force the panel to clear out it's cache of mapped widgets? | 00:27 |
|---|---|---|
| Riddell | penguin42: probably restarting plasma-desktop is the easiest way | 00:47 |
| Riddell | but better to ask development questions on #plasma for plasma | 00:47 |
| penguin42 | ah ok | 00:48 |
| penguin42 | thanks; it's actually very minimally plasma - I'm prodding in the device notifier and most of the stuff I'm doing is it's interaction with Solid | 00:48 |
| * claydoh missed the parties as usual , but hopes everyone has a great New Year!! | 01:58 | |
| valorie | back from the cabin - happy new year, everyone! | 02:12 |
| claydoh | same to you valorie :) | 02:16 |
| * claydoh had to work last night, you wouldn't believe how many people were NOT drinking, but eating instead - I was still @ werk past midnight :( | 02:17 | |
| valorie | we eat *and* drink | 02:18 |
| * valorie had a touch too much alcohol, and not nearly enough sleep | 02:18 | |
| claydoh | I wonder what everyone would have done - we were the only restaurant open past 8 pm, fast-food or regular, in that end of town | 02:20 |
| valorie | eldest son made some roasted-beet salad | 02:21 |
| valorie | it was really excellent | 02:21 |
| claydoh | if we were closed lots wouyd have gone hungry | 02:21 |
| valorie | people can cook! | 02:21 |
| valorie | at least I hope so | 02:21 |
| claydoh | right! | 02:22 |
| claydoh | i'd be out of work then :) | 02:22 |
| valorie | lol | 02:22 |
| valorie | we like going up to the cabin because there is no driving in the dangerous hours | 02:22 |
| valorie | an anyone drunk is going to be sleeping there anyway...... | 02:22 |
| claydoh | smart | 02:22 |
| valorie | I've been having that party since I was 15 | 02:23 |
| valorie | which was a long time ago! | 02:23 |
| claydoh | i somehow have managed to go 10 years without booze, never was a big drinker got that out of my system mostly before I turned 18 | 02:25 |
| claydoh | which was also a long time ago | 02:25 |
| * claydoh likes that sort of fun tradition | 02:25 | |
| valorie | I can take it or leave it | 02:27 |
| valorie | however, drinking moderately is fun sometimes | 02:27 |
| claydoh | yes, in moderstion | 02:27 |
| claydoh | I traditionally work on xmas eve/new years eve/ thanksgiving eve as he is so boring lol | 02:28 |
| claydoh | err I am so boring rather | 02:29 |
| valorie | lol | 02:32 |
| valorie | well, my mother was an alcoholic, so I know the dangers | 02:32 |
| valorie | and prefer to stay well this side of them | 02:32 |
| * apachelogger sings a song | 03:32 | |
| apachelogger | rbelem: if only it was written in a sensible language | 03:32 |
| apachelogger | like java | 03:32 |
| apachelogger | oh java | 03:32 |
| apachelogger | <3 | 03:32 |
| JontheEchidna | you wish wifi was written in java? | 03:34 |
| JontheEchidna | :P | 03:34 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, hahaah | 03:39 |
| rbelem | never! | 03:39 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: yes | 03:42 |
| apachelogger | java is the key to world peace | 03:42 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, every java code you write, a little rabbit die :-( | 03:45 |
| valorie | oh, killing baby bunnies | 03:47 |
| valorie | not good! | 03:47 |
| unhunkyguy | Hi! Anyone know how to do about testing Kubuntu on a netbook? | 06:38 |
| valorie | is this what you mean? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Netbook/HardwareTesting | 06:39 |
| unhunkyguy | yes it is | 06:39 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: Maemo SDK is *huge* | 08:10 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: poke poke | 09:02 |
| shadeslayer | omg omg omg | 10:01 |
| shadeslayer | http://i.imgur.com/AyNzk.png | 10:01 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: apachelogger ^^ | 10:01 |
| valorie | happy new year, shadeslayer | 10:15 |
| shadeslayer | valorie: same to you too! :D | 10:15 |
| valorie | thanks! | 10:16 |
| valorie | did you have a fun celebration? | 10:16 |
| valorie | I am so glad to leave 2010 behind | 10:16 |
| skfin | Happy new year valorie & shadeslayer :P | 10:43 |
| shadeslayer | skfin: same to you :) | 10:43 |
| shadeslayer | valorie: well ... i celebrated earlier in the day and was looking at Qt API at ~0000 hours | 10:43 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: omg, that is a lie!!!! | 10:44 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: plz2help | 10:45 |
| valorie | happy new year skfin! | 10:45 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: wat do I help? | 10:45 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: 1) how do you get apps into ovi store? | 10:45 |
| * apachelogger has little time as he needs to prepare for a sekrit meeting in about 2 hours | 10:45 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I have no idea | 10:45 |
| shadeslayer | zomg sekrit meeting | 10:46 |
| shadeslayer | anyhow | 10:46 |
| apachelogger | you sign up | 10:46 |
| apachelogger | and upload | 10:46 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: any fees? | 10:46 |
| apachelogger | I suppose | 10:46 |
| apachelogger | dunno | 10:46 |
| apachelogger | possibly | 10:46 |
| apachelogger | possibly not | 10:46 |
| apachelogger | time will tell | 10:46 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: how do i add a QWebViewLayout and a QLineEdit to a QGraphicsLinearLayout | 10:46 |
| shadeslayer | i cant seem to be able to do that :( | 10:46 |
| apachelogger | only a true jedi will know when the time is right and things will unveil in front of us | 10:46 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: and did you see this : http://i.imgur.com/AyNzk.png | 10:47 |
| apachelogger | my dear shadeslayer | 10:47 |
| apachelogger | please read about qgraphiscscene and qgraphisview | 10:47 |
| shadeslayer | another issue being .. my QGraphicsWebView does not resize :P | 10:47 |
| apachelogger | after that you will see why this does not work and also whole to solve this, though it is questionable whether one wants to solve this | 10:48 |
| apachelogger | my dear shadeslayer | 10:48 |
| apachelogger | please also read about layouting in Qt | 10:48 |
| apachelogger | after that you will see why it does not resize | 10:48 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: dude .. thats why im trying QGraphicsLinearLayout | 10:48 |
| apachelogger | but what do you align is it that I ask of you | 10:49 |
| shadeslayer | whut? | 10:50 |
| apachelogger | read about qgraphiscview and scene | 10:50 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 10:51 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i just want my QLineEdit and my QGraphicsWebView to be resized with the window resize | 10:51 |
| shadeslayer | i just hope thats possible | 10:51 |
| valorie | apachelogger: have you been circling the Earth in your spaceship? | 10:51 |
| valorie | you sound very Yoda-like | 10:52 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| apachelogger | valorie: time I have travelled, but not the earth | 11:15 |
| apachelogger | only when you have seen three morning after a night without sleep you will see the true teachings of the jedi | 11:16 |
| valorie | I would be seeing the inside of the insane asylum about then | 11:18 |
| apachelogger | only those who give in to their feelings will walk this path, for it is the ways of the darkness that lead to insanity | 11:19 |
| apachelogger | git audit fails \o/ | 11:38 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: btw, template for sysadmin request on git migration: http://paste.kde.org/1659/ ;) | 11:39 |
| * apachelogger should add that to techbase | 11:39 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: so i sort of figured out stuff | 11:45 |
| shadeslayer | i can use a QGraphicsWidget to add a QLineEdit to a QGraphicsLinearLayout | 11:46 |
| shadeslayer | whew | 11:46 |
| apachelogger | oh | 11:47 |
| apachelogger | you did not read enough it would appear :P | 11:47 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: do you really need to do that? | 11:47 |
| apachelogger | because you certainly do not want to do that unless you need to | 11:47 |
| apachelogger | and I have a feeling you do not need to | 11:47 |
| shadeslayer | well i just want my fscking urlbar and webview to resize | 11:47 |
| shadeslayer | when i resize my main window | 11:47 |
| shadeslayer | :S | 11:47 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://pastebin.com/jEgQ1eGw | 11:48 |
| shadeslayer | my weird code | 11:48 |
| apachelogger | plz do not use the shitbin | 11:48 |
| * apachelogger has to edit stupid bot protection stuff | 11:48 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/1660 | 11:48 |
| shadeslayer | better? :D | 11:48 |
| apachelogger | one day one will have to upload nakkid pictures so the services can be sure one is actually human | 11:49 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: yeah | 11:49 |
| apachelogger | see | 11:49 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 11:49 |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| apachelogger | I suggest you to read something | 11:49 |
| apachelogger | but you dont | 11:49 |
| apachelogger | because if you did you would absolutely know what to do | 11:49 |
| * shadeslayer is all sorts of confused between a QGV and a QGS | 11:49 | |
| apachelogger | your qgraphicsview, being a qwidgets is contained within a qwidget | 11:49 |
| apachelogger | in particular that qwidget is a qmainwindow | 11:49 |
| apachelogger | 1. qmainwindows require a central widget to be set | 11:50 |
| apachelogger | 2. that central widget can then contain a layout | 11:50 |
| apachelogger | 3. that layout can contain multiple other widgets | 11:50 |
| apachelogger | so | 11:50 |
| apachelogger | we have qgraphisview | 11:50 |
| shadeslayer | omg omg omg | 11:50 |
| apachelogger | which is a qwidget | 11:50 |
| apachelogger | and you want to add qlineedit | 11:50 |
| apachelogger | which is also a qwidget | 11:50 |
| shadeslayer | yus !!! | 11:50 |
| apachelogger | and you have a qwidget that will and must contain both | 11:50 |
| apachelogger | now how would one achieve that :P | 11:51 |
| apachelogger | also | 11:51 |
| apachelogger | the golden rule of Qwidgets | 11:51 |
| apachelogger | everything | 11:51 |
| apachelogger | must | 11:51 |
| apachelogger | always | 11:51 |
| apachelogger | have | 11:51 |
| apachelogger | a layout | 11:51 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 11:51 |
| apachelogger | when you create a qgraphisview you should already have a layout and immediately after allocation add the view to the layout | 11:51 |
| apachelogger | otherwise you get funky messed up uis like the snapshots you posted earlier | 11:52 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: your member naming policy is a bit weird too | 11:53 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: oic | 11:53 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: oh ... i know i should use m_ | 11:53 |
| apachelogger | for example :P | 11:53 |
| shadeslayer | ill be changing that once ive fixed my layout etc | 11:53 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/1661/ | 11:54 |
| apachelogger | there are other means to differe them from local vars ;) | 11:54 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 11:54 |
| shadeslayer | i shall fix them after i fix layouts | 11:54 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: your license header has newline problems ;) | 11:55 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: where? | 11:55 |
| apachelogger | underneith your copyright | 11:55 |
| shadeslayer | oh ... | 11:55 |
| shadeslayer | right ... no new line after the license | 11:55 |
| shadeslayer | fixed :) | 11:56 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: so its possible that when i resize my mainwindow my webview is also resized? | 11:58 |
| shadeslayer | just a yes or no please :P | 11:58 |
| apachelogger | omg! | 11:58 |
| apachelogger | oh my god | 11:58 |
| shadeslayer | hmm? | 11:58 |
| apachelogger | I could do a concert in madison square garden with my blog | 11:58 |
| apachelogger | perform 3 times | 11:58 |
| apachelogger | so many visitors I had in 2010 :D | 11:58 |
| apachelogger | also | 11:59 |
| apachelogger | fluffy | 11:59 |
| apachelogger | is | 11:59 |
| === shadeslayer changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu New Year | Lots to do https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Please test KDE in lucid-proposed LP: #691068 | ||
| apachelogger | the top search | 11:59 |
| shadeslayer | dead? | 11:59 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 11:59 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 11:59 |
| apachelogger | not even ubuntu one kde managed to beat it | 11:59 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: !!! | 11:59 |
| apachelogger | fluffy | 11:59 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 11:59 |
| apachelogger | :O | 11:59 |
| apachelogger | in particular... | 11:59 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: Y U NO DO DIS? http://code.google.com/p/qtscriptgenerator/ | 11:59 |
| apachelogger | fluffy is number one | 11:59 |
| apachelogger | then is kubuntu is not ubuntu | 11:59 |
| apachelogger | then an inconvenient truth | 12:00 |
| apachelogger | and only then ubuntu one kde | 12:00 |
| apachelogger | hahahaha | 12:00 |
| apachelogger | :D | 12:00 |
| apachelogger | pwnd | 12:00 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: im busy with other stuff atm .... will looksie :) | 12:00 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: it's a quick work | 12:00 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: apachelogger is harrasing me :P | 12:00 |
| Quintasan | I can't do this due to loldisk failure | 12:00 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: the ways of resizing are a mystery | 12:00 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: !!! | 12:00 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: only those who understand the ways of Qt will understand its resizing | 12:00 |
| Quintasan | kernel guys and internets claim it's my hdd dying but windows works just fine :/ | 12:01 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 12:01 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: fluffy is the awesumest | 12:01 |
| Nightrose | :D | 12:01 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: you'lll have a full house at fosdem ;-) | 12:01 |
| * apachelogger ponders blogging those stats | 12:02 | |
| apachelogger | rather intersting | 12:02 |
| Nightrose | do it | 12:02 |
| Quintasan | FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU- | 12:03 |
| Quintasan | How the hell can my drive be dying after a year | 12:04 |
| Riddell | happy new year all | 12:08 |
| yofel | happy new year Riddell | 12:08 |
| yofel | Quintasan: checked smart data? | 12:08 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i fail to understand how im supposed to do it | 12:10 |
| Quintasan | checking | 12:10 |
| shadeslayer | :( | 12:10 |
| Quintasan | yofel: I'm running long self-assessment test now | 12:10 |
| Quintasan | yofel: the short one passed without any problems | 12:10 |
| apachelogger | because you refuse to read what I tell you to read | 12:10 |
| apachelogger | happy new year Riddell | 12:11 |
| Quintasan | yofel: there is something in error log but I don't know what it means :/ | 12:11 |
| shadeslayer | i did read QGV and QGS | 12:11 |
| apachelogger | I told you more | 12:11 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: happy new year ... once again :D | 12:11 |
| yofel | hm, I've seen apps complaining about the weirdest smart values though | 12:11 |
| apachelogger | but you went like "ah I do not need to read that, know it all" :P | 12:11 |
| yofel | and our power management settings aren't very useful either :/ | 12:11 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 12:11 |
| Quintasan | well, I'm sure I greeted everyone but | 12:11 |
| Quintasan | Happy New Year everyone :D | 12:11 |
| valorie | happy new year, Riddell, Quintasan | 12:12 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: what do i need to read in particular about those 2 classes? | 12:13 |
| shadeslayer | ive read the description, how they work ... | 12:14 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/1662 | 12:14 |
| apachelogger | oh | 12:20 |
| apachelogger | my | 12:20 |
| apachelogger | fckn | 12:20 |
| apachelogger | butterfly | 12:21 |
| * apachelogger leaves now before he has to commit to the ways of RTFM and fall for the dark side of the force torturing people with lightning and whatnot | 12:21 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: pokety poke http://paste.kde.org/1677 | 13:21 |
| shadeslayer | it works now ... but cant input text :P | 13:22 |
| shadeslayer | clicking links work | 13:22 |
| ari-tczew | JontheEchidna: I've subscribed you to 3 bugs. | 14:04 |
| shadeslayer | w00t | 14:17 |
| shadeslayer | so just finished te demo browser | 14:17 |
| shadeslayer | http://bit.ly/hEhq7p | 14:18 |
| shadeslayer | thats from the browser i made | 14:18 |
| shadeslayer | http://bit.ly/dZCsgi | 14:18 |
| shadeslayer | is from chromium | 14:18 |
| shadeslayer | \o/ | 14:18 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: well, nothing surprising | 14:26 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: whai? | 14:26 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: your browser has less functions | 14:26 |
| shadeslayer | so? | 14:27 |
| Quintasan | so it's faster? | 14:27 |
| shadeslayer | pretty much does everything that chrome does | 14:27 |
| shadeslayer | except having tabs | 14:27 |
| Quintasan | incognito mode? | 14:27 |
| Quintasan | extensions | 14:27 |
| shadeslayer | by default | 14:27 |
| Quintasan | each tab as a sepearate process? | 14:27 |
| shadeslayer | doesnt save passwords et all :P | 14:27 |
| shadeslayer | no tabs | 14:27 |
| Quintasan | incognito mode by default? | 14:28 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 14:28 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: doesnt save your data anywhere | 14:28 |
| Quintasan | well, no wise IMO | 14:28 |
| Quintasan | not everyone is paranoid | 14:28 |
| Quintasan | :D | 14:28 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 14:28 |
| shadeslayer | welll | 14:28 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: http://gitweb.kde.org/scratch/garg/DemoWebViewBrowser.git | 14:28 |
| shadeslayer | go run tests | 14:28 |
| shadeslayer | and compile | 14:28 |
| Quintasan | Well, that might have sounded negative but I'm not implying that it is crap | 14:28 |
| shadeslayer | and compare to chrome | 14:28 |
| shadeslayer | 2 days of work ^_^ | 14:29 |
| Quintasan | >implying I have chrome installed | 14:29 |
| shadeslayer | well | 14:29 |
| shadeslayer | FF | 14:29 |
| shadeslayer | or whatever you have | 14:29 |
| Quintasan | ... | 14:29 |
| Quintasan | >implying I use FF | 14:29 |
| shadeslayer | its faster than rekonq anyways | 14:29 |
| Quintasan | What am I, a masochist? | 14:29 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: do you even *use* a browser? :P | 14:29 |
| Quintasan | Opera | 14:29 |
| Quintasan | Opera > | 14:29 |
| shadeslayer | well .. compare it to that then :) | 14:30 |
| shadeslayer | i wish we had v8 in qt-webkit | 14:30 |
| Quintasan | zsh: segmentation fault ./QtDemoBrowser | 14:30 |
| Quintasan | lol | 14:30 |
| shadeslayer | lolwut | 14:30 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: backtrace plz | 14:31 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: and url's need to be in http:// format | 14:31 |
| Quintasan | oh | 14:31 |
| Quintasan | one feature less | 14:32 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 14:32 |
| Quintasan | and it crashed | 14:32 |
| shadeslayer | ill add that feature | 14:32 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: backtrace or it didnt happen | 14:32 |
| Quintasan | dunno how to generate one | 14:33 |
| Quintasan | gdb won't even start it | 14:33 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: gdb ./src/QtDemoBrowser | 14:33 |
| shadeslayer | in your build dir | 14:33 |
| shadeslayer | and then run | 14:33 |
| Quintasan | wow, are you serious? | 14:33 |
| Quintasan | god damn | 14:34 |
| Quintasan | moar debug libs? | 14:34 |
| Quintasan | go to hell | 14:34 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: feature request: make the QLineEdit or whatever you used KEEP the url after you press enter | 14:34 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 14:34 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: will do | 14:34 |
| yofel | hm wati | 14:34 |
| Quintasan | Did you package that qtscript stuff shadeslayer? | 14:34 |
| shadeslayer | patches welcome : | 14:34 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: no | 14:34 |
| shadeslayer | ill be back in another 15 misn | 14:34 |
| shadeslayer | and will start on that | 14:35 |
| Quintasan | great, building anything here is impossible due to (claimed) hdd failure | 14:35 |
| shadeslayer | lol ... its not working for me now | 14:35 |
| Quintasan | damn kernel team | 14:35 |
| Quintasan | "seems like a hardware failure to me" | 14:35 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: very interesting behaviour: enter URL -> press enter -> URL vanishes -> click somewhere else -> URL comes back | 14:35 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 14:35 |
| Quintasan | and windows works normally | 14:35 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: :P | 14:35 |
| shadeslayer | dunno why but i cant open a page | 14:36 |
| Quintasan | why the hell you are writing this shadeslayer? | 14:36 |
| yofel | and the scroll bars are messed up, I get 2 sets | 14:36 |
| Quintasan | we already have arora, konq, and rekonq | 14:36 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: easy fix for that | 14:37 |
| Quintasan | You'd better fix rekonq bugs instead of creating another browser | 14:37 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: its a demo browser using QGraphicsWebView | 14:37 |
| Quintasan | :P | 14:37 |
| shadeslayer | something rekonq will use in the coming days | 14:37 |
| shadeslayer | so i wanted to experiment with it | 14:37 |
| Quintasan | Isn't it better to test directly within rekonq? | 14:37 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: http://yofel.dyndns.org/pics/ext/qdemo.png | 14:37 |
| Quintasan | Who knows how different could be in rekonq? | 14:38 |
| yofel | this is funny, when I enter a new URL, pressing enter will put the old URL into the urlbar until I click somewhere else, and when I do that it'll go back to the page of the first input URL | 14:40 |
| yofel | odd 'Back' button... | 14:40 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: fixed here : http://i.imgur.com/jBnJi.png | 14:41 |
| yofel | better :D | 14:41 |
| shadeslayer | now i have to go | 14:41 |
| shadeslayer | cya | 14:41 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer is almost as good as apachelogger in claiming he is busy | 14:42 |
| Quintasan | well, at least shadeslayer gets some thing done ;D | 14:43 |
| trichard | is there any way to find out what slows kwin down? On both of my systems compiz runs much smoother then kwin | 14:54 |
| trichard | i'd like to find out the cause of that :p | 14:54 |
| mgraesslin | trichard: give a try to 4.6 | 14:54 |
| === sresu_ is now known as sresu | ||
| trichard | mgraesslin: how stable are the 4.6 RC packages for kubuntu? | 14:55 |
| mgraesslin | no idea about the packages, but I have been running 4.6 for ~two months now | 14:56 |
| trichard | cool, ubuntu-desktop needs to be uninstalled to install 4.6? :) | 15:01 |
| yofel | 4.6 works mostly fine here, I want the blur effect back though :/ | 15:16 |
| trichard | yofel: did you install it from the beta packages? | 15:17 |
| yofel | yes | 15:17 |
| trichard | do you have gnome installed aswell? | 15:18 |
| yofel | only partially, what does it want to remove? | 15:18 |
| trichard | yofel: hmm strange, aptitude doesn't want to remove ubuntu-desktop | 15:19 |
| trichard | kpackagekit want to remove gnome-power-manager and ubuntu-desktop | 15:20 |
| trichard | and update-notifier | 15:20 |
| yofel | hm, I do have g-p-m installed here together with 4.6 | 15:20 |
| trichard | yofel: must be a bug in KPackageKit then :s | 15:21 |
| Quintasan | wololololol | 15:24 |
| Quintasan | yofel: turns out that might be a problem with the HDD cables, not the drive itself | 15:25 |
| Quintasan | :S | 15:25 |
| yofel | what's the error in the first place? | 15:25 |
| Quintasan | yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/549551 | 15:25 |
| yofel | I know I had a broken cable which caused ATA DRDY errors once | 15:25 |
| Quintasan | yofel: and after that the i/o is soooo slow that starting anything takes at least 10 seconds | 15:26 |
| Quintasan | and sometimes freezes the whole pc | 15:26 |
| === pascal_ is now known as pascalaldo | ||
| shadeslayer | ok | 15:48 |
| shadeslayer | so | 15:48 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: what needs doing? | 15:48 |
| * apachelogger is out of cookies! | 16:57 | |
| apachelogger | oh noes! | 16:57 |
| droidslayer | Ooooh | 16:57 |
| * ulysses eats cookies | 16:57 | |
| droidslayer | That would be because I ate all of them | 16:57 |
| droidslayer | apachelogger: did you see my browser | 16:58 |
| apachelogger | I saw the code | 16:58 |
| droidslayer | Ok | 16:58 |
| droidslayer | And? | 16:58 |
| apachelogger | still wrong | 16:59 |
| droidslayer | ^_^ | 16:59 |
| droidslayer | apachelogger: I don't know how to fix it anymore... patch | 17:03 |
| droidslayer | :-( | 17:04 |
| apachelogger | because you were not listening | 17:04 |
| mgraesslin | apachelogger: I pushed a rebased branch today, just in case you want to build a package ;-) | 17:09 |
| droidslayer | apachelogger: plz 2 fix | 17:12 |
| droidslayer | apachelogger: I'm going to try and write the browser in QML next | 17:17 |
| droidslayer | It's already been written... ill just have a peek | 17:18 |
| Tm_T | someone likes to make konq-plugins to beta-repository with libkonq5 -> libkonq5a dependency change? | 17:18 |
| yofel | Tm_T: sure, I can upload it to beta | 17:27 |
| Tm_T | uhhoh, this is strange... | 17:46 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, :-D | 17:57 |
| apachelogger | mgraesslin: where? | 18:01 |
| mgraesslin | apachelogger: http://gitweb.kde.org/scratch/graesslin/kwin-gles.git | 18:02 |
| apachelogger | groovy | 18:02 |
| apachelogger | I'll package it tomorrow then :) | 18:02 |
| mgraesslin | awesome | 18:02 |
| shadeslayer_ | interesting | 18:32 |
| shadeslayer_ | my client isnt connecting | 18:32 |
| shadeslayer_ | oh boi | 18:33 |
| * shadeslayer_ pokes jefferai | 18:34 | |
| Tm_T | E: Build-Depends dependency for kdebase cannot be satisfied because no available versions of package kde-sc-dev-latest can satisfy version requirements | 18:45 |
| Tm_T | this with beta-ppa | 18:45 |
| yofel | Tm_T: try again in a few minutes | 18:56 |
| scnd101 | I'm working on a plasma port of ambiance, any chance of getting that into kubuntu? | 18:57 |
| * apachelogger just sort of retired phonon-xine | 18:58 | |
| * apachelogger feels a bit sad now | 18:58 | |
| apachelogger | scnd101: not as default setting | 18:58 |
| apachelogger | could be on the CD though (given space is available) | 18:59 |
| === starcraft is now known as starcraftman | ||
| scnd101 | right, sounds good to me | 18:59 |
| scnd101 | why is that though? | 18:59 |
| scnd101 | all KDE distros seem to use air | 18:59 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, did you take a look at the plasma-mobile package? :-) | 19:00 |
| apachelogger | no | 19:00 |
| apachelogger | I am swamped! | 19:00 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 19:01 |
| * apachelogger is ike the most important phonon dev evar | 19:01 | |
| apachelogger | I am retiring stuff instead of adding more | 19:01 |
| apachelogger | :P | 19:01 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: amarok crashes :P | 19:01 |
| Quintasan | >most impotant | 19:01 |
| Quintasan | >apachelogger | 19:01 |
| Quintasan | DOES NOT COMPUTE | 19:01 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: that is because amarok's enginecontroller is phony | 19:01 |
| Quintasan | :P | 19:01 |
| * apachelogger knows way too many code bases because of phonon :S | 19:01 | |
| apachelogger | like kgoldrunner | 19:01 |
| apachelogger | which is insanely adictive if one is into that sort of thing | 19:02 |
| sheytan | apachelogger will phonon video kcm be a part of kde 4.6? | 19:02 |
| sheytan | it's on the todo list | 19:02 |
| * shadeslayer pokes sheytan to give him a spinner busywidget | 19:02 | |
| sheytan | shadeslayer ? :D | 19:02 |
| shadeslayer | sheytan: please to make me a better spinner widget : http://i.imgur.com/ADFZB.png | 19:02 |
| shadeslayer | see those black fugly things | 19:02 |
| shadeslayer | make them look awesome | 19:03 |
| apachelogger | sheytan: no | 19:03 |
| sheytan | shadeslayer i will, but not today :) | 19:03 |
| shadeslayer | :( | 19:03 |
| apachelogger | sheytan: video capturing is not yet mature enough | 19:03 |
| shadeslayer | sheytan: any ideas? | 19:03 |
| sheytan | apachelogger is there a screenshot of it? | 19:03 |
| apachelogger | however it is on our todo for phonon 4.5 (aka spitfire) | 19:03 |
| apachelogger | sheytan: it does not yet exist to my knowledge | 19:03 |
| sheytan | oh | 19:03 |
| sheytan | well, good luck :) | 19:03 |
| sheytan | make phonon rule | 19:03 |
| shadeslayer | doesnt phono already rule? | 19:04 |
| sheytan | it does, but you know :D | 19:04 |
| sheytan | you can always do better :D | 19:04 |
| sheytan | shadeslayer must it be svg or raster? | 19:04 |
| yofel | make phonon shoot pulse and rule even more.. | 19:04 |
| shadeslayer | sheytan: its a flippin GIF right now | 19:04 |
| sheytan | shadeslayer btw: the background for the thumbs looks bad :P | 19:05 |
| Tm_T | yofel: thanks <3 | 19:05 |
| sheytan | integrating plasma theme in every app isn't a good idea | 19:05 |
| shadeslayer | sheytan: background? | 19:05 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 19:05 |
| sheytan | yes | 19:05 |
| shadeslayer | that | 19:05 |
| shadeslayer | well ... make a mockup and send it to our mailing list :P | 19:05 |
| sheytan | shadeslayer what about a whole mock of the star page? :) | 19:05 |
| sheytan | ahahha :D | 19:05 |
| shadeslayer | sheytan: sure | 19:05 |
| sheytan | you read my mind :D | 19:05 |
| shadeslayer | i was actually thinking of doing it in QML | 19:06 |
| sheytan | shadeslayer how much time do i have? | 19:06 |
| shadeslayer | but apachelogger said NOOOOO | 19:06 |
| shadeslayer | sheytan: as much as you wan | 19:06 |
| sheytan | qml <3! | 19:06 |
| shadeslayer | *want | 19:06 |
| sheytan | ok | 19:06 |
| shadeslayer | sheytan: inorite | 19:06 |
| sheytan | why no qml? | 19:06 |
| apachelogger | qml is the suck :P | 19:07 |
| apachelogger | for video players | 19:07 |
| apachelogger | :P | 19:07 |
| apachelogger | nothing but trouble | 19:07 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 19:07 |
| * apachelogger needs to do something in that direction for qtmobilevlc | 19:07 | |
| apachelogger | and then recycle that knowledge for phonon | 19:07 |
| apachelogger | though I think I know the architecture that is needed | 19:07 |
| apachelogger | just not the code specifics | 19:07 |
| sheytan | shouldn't qml be the cool stuff with animations? :P | 19:07 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: so your participating in that competition? | 19:07 |
| apachelogger | will have to do opengl shader shit and whatnot | 19:07 |
| apachelogger | sheytan: no | 19:07 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: no | 19:07 |
| shadeslayer | but QML is the awesum | 19:08 |
| shadeslayer | whai no QML <3 | 19:08 |
| apachelogger | sheytan: you can have animations in regular Qt too | 19:08 |
| apachelogger | just a bit more work to implement | 19:08 |
| shadeslayer | see | 19:08 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 19:08 |
| apachelogger | anyhow, the main problem with making good looking uis is that they are not compatible with how performant video playback works on linux | 19:08 |
| sheytan | all this programming sucks :D | 19:08 |
| apachelogger | which is overlay painting, where the video backend essentially instructs the X server to draw the frames on some region on the screen | 19:08 |
| apachelogger | thus overlay | 19:09 |
| apachelogger | the thing is that you cannot overlay an overlay | 19:09 |
| * shadeslayer proceeds to add Kinetic Scrolling in his browser | 19:09 | |
| apachelogger | well, not in any sensible manner | 19:09 |
| shadeslayer | wth is happening | 19:17 |
| shadeslayer | jefferai: something is wrong | 19:17 |
| shadeslayer | jefferai: im getting PM's | 19:17 |
| shadeslayer | and not just any PM's | 19:17 |
| shadeslayer | PM's with content from channels | 19:17 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 19:17 |
| yofel | wtf? | 19:18 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: yeah | 19:18 |
| shadeslayer | like | 19:18 |
| shadeslayer | from #plasma, #Cyanogenmod and #kde-devel | 19:18 |
| shadeslayer | i just deleted them ... but if they occur again im going to do a imagebin | 19:18 |
| scnd101 | apachelogger: where should I send the theme when it's done? | 19:26 |
| apachelogger | hm | 19:27 |
| * apachelogger wonders if upstream KDE has a theme package thing | 19:27 | |
| apachelogger | scnd101: I'll look into it, might be a while until I know though :) | 19:28 |
| apachelogger | maybe shadeslayer has an idea | 19:28 |
| shadeslayer | about? | 19:28 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 19:28 |
| shadeslayer | theme packaging? | 19:28 |
| scnd101 | apachelogger: theme package thing? | 19:28 |
| shadeslayer | no idea | 19:28 |
| shadeslayer | well | 19:28 |
| shadeslayer | ask on #oxygen or #plasma :P | 19:28 |
| scnd101 | btw, have a screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/2YWuP.png | 19:29 |
| apachelogger | omg | 19:31 |
| apachelogger | it looks like ubuntu :D | 19:31 |
| scnd101 | :D | 19:31 |
| apachelogger | very nice | 19:31 |
| scnd101 | thanks | 19:31 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 19:35 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: what do you use to make screencasts? | 19:36 |
| shadeslayer | scnd101: ETOOMUCHPURPLE :P | 19:36 |
| yofel | purple... | 19:37 |
| apachelogger | sheytan: vlc | 19:37 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: vlc | 19:37 |
| shadeslayer | oic | 19:37 |
| * yofel goes filing bug about grub being purple with no sane way to change it | 19:37 | |
| apachelogger | sheytan: srsly you and shadeslayer need to fight over the nicks :P | 19:37 |
| scnd101 | lol | 19:37 |
| apachelogger | there is no way I will ever type 3 characters for autocomplete | 19:37 |
| sheytan | you need type the whole name ;D | 19:37 |
| apachelogger | nevar! | 19:37 |
| sheytan | apachelogger evne if, there's a difference between our nicks. mine starts with she and shadeslayers with sha, so you can't replace e with a :D | 19:40 |
| sheytan | you type too fast :D | 19:40 |
| apachelogger | I type 2 characters and then autocomplete my way | 19:40 |
| apachelogger | always | 19:40 |
| sheytan | start with 3 characters :D | 19:41 |
| apachelogger | too much work | 19:41 |
| sheytan | if one of us will change the nick, no one will know who we are :D | 19:41 |
| apachelogger | isnt that thrilling? | 19:42 |
| apachelogger | you would be like a comjpletely new person | 19:42 |
| apachelogger | :D | 19:42 |
| === Daskreech is now known as sheyton | ||
| sheyton | Fight! | 19:42 |
| sheytan | what for? :D | 19:42 |
| sheyton | NIckspace? | 19:43 |
| === yofel is now known as sheytyl | ||
| shadeslayer | lawl | 19:44 |
| sheytyl | nah, just trying to get a monotone world | 19:44 |
| === sheytyl is now known as yofel | ||
| apachelogger | hm | 19:45 |
| apachelogger | that was short fun | 19:45 |
| Tm_T | I'm really puzzled with some stuff in konq-plugins | 19:47 |
| shadeslayer | AHA | 19:49 |
| shadeslayer | recorditnow is the broke | 19:50 |
| shadeslayer | will fix | 19:50 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer, sheytan, sheyton: Let's have everyone change their nicks to sh* | 19:51 |
| shadeslayer | yes! | 19:51 |
| Quintasan | so apachelogger has big problems | 19:51 |
| shadeslayer | just to annoy apachelogger | 19:51 |
| sheyton | on the upside tab completing everyone in the chan will be one leter away on the keyboard | 19:53 |
| yofel | ^^ | 19:53 |
| Quintasan | Well, back to homework I guess | 19:54 |
| * Quintasan notes he should had done it before he even started working on project neon | 19:54 | |
| ari-tczew | Quintasan: high time :P | 19:54 |
| Quintasan | ari-tczew: it never worked out, I always end up postponing it after the work :DD | 19:55 |
| === sheyton is now known as Daskreech | ||
| ari-tczew | hehe | 19:56 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: fix kubotu instead of doing some random things | 19:56 |
| * Quintasan hides under his desk | 19:56 | |
| shadeslayer | so | 20:00 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: do you have multiverse upload rights? | 20:00 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: upload your new rekonq animation immediately :P (looks cool) | 20:01 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: :P | 20:01 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 20:01 |
| shadeslayer | did i show it here? | 20:01 |
| yofel | nope, #plasma | 20:01 |
| shadeslayer | well | 20:01 |
| shadeslayer | http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/screencast.ogv | 20:02 |
| shadeslayer | there ya go | 20:02 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: its a big UI change .. will need to discuss it first tho | 20:02 |
| shadeslayer | and the spinner isnt finished | 20:02 |
| shadeslayer | needs more rendering | 20:02 |
| sheytan | shadeslayer can you shoot a screenshot of rekonq for me? | 20:03 |
| shadeslayer | sheytan: look at the screencast? | 20:04 |
| shadeslayer | sheytan: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/screencast.ogv << | 20:04 |
| sheytan | shadeslayer, no no, this will look bad :P | 20:04 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 20:04 |
| sheytan | please make one for me ;D | 20:04 |
| shadeslayer | well ok | 20:04 |
| shadeslayer | a static screenshot | 20:04 |
| sheytan | yep | 20:04 |
| shadeslayer | sheytan: http://i.imgur.com/MOfu8.png | 20:05 |
| scnd101 | shadeslayer: no antialiasing? | 20:05 |
| sheytan | thanks :) | 20:05 |
| shadeslayer | scnd101: dunno | 20:05 |
| scnd101 | doesn't look like it :P | 20:05 |
| shadeslayer | *shrug* | 20:06 |
| scnd101 | couldn't it just use the spinner from the plasma theme? | 20:07 |
| shadeslayer | that *is* the new spinner from the plsama theme :) | 20:08 |
| scnd101 | the plasma theme one is using or just air? | 20:09 |
| shadeslayer | dunno .. this is what notmart mailed me :P | 20:10 |
| scnd101 | ok :P | 20:10 |
| scnd101 | not really important | 20:10 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: yes I do | 20:14 |
| Quintasan | What about it? | 20:14 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: ok recorditnow needed a dependency change to new libpolkit | 20:15 |
| shadeslayer | im building it atm | 20:15 |
| shadeslayer | will send a debdiff when its done | 20:15 |
| Quintasan | Did you check for new upstream release? | 20:15 |
| shadeslayer | aww ... do i have to | 20:15 |
| Quintasan | would be wise | 20:15 |
| Quintasan | let me do it | 20:15 |
| shadeslayer | nothing in debian | 20:16 |
| Quintasan | nor in upstream | 20:16 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: PROTIP use diff -Nru debian/* | 20:17 |
| Quintasan | I don't give a damn about any binary changes | 20:17 |
| shadeslayer | yeah ... well ... whats the harm in debdiff | 20:17 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 20:17 |
| shadeslayer | see .. this is not a new release | 20:17 |
| shadeslayer | :> | 20:17 |
| shadeslayer | hey | 20:17 |
| shadeslayer | upstream has 0.8 | 20:17 |
| Quintasan | >implying there won't be any crap stuffed in anyways | 20:17 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: no, they have 0.8.1 | 20:17 |
| shadeslayer | Y YOU NO LOOK PROPERLY | 20:17 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/RecordItNow?content=114610 | 20:17 |
| Quintasan | because I asked them to upload LICENSE etc. | 20:18 |
| shadeslayer | and ubuntu has 0.7 | 20:18 |
| Quintasan | y u kiddin | 20:18 |
| Quintasan | lol | 20:18 |
| Quintasan | I have 0.8.1 source compiled now | 20:18 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/recorditnow | 20:18 |
| Quintasan | WTF | 20:18 |
| shadeslayer | lawl | 20:18 |
| shadeslayer | so the sources arent correct? | 20:19 |
| Quintasan | http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/RecordItNow?content=114610 ? | 20:19 |
| Quintasan | lrn2read | 20:19 |
| Quintasan | it says 0.8.1 in the download link | 20:19 |
| Quintasan | and it is exactly beacuse I pestered them about the LICENSE file | 20:20 |
| shadeslayer | makes life easier for packagers (rename GPLV2 to COPYING, buildin joschy) | 20:21 |
| shadeslayer | 0_o | 20:21 |
| shadeslayer | well let me fix 0.7 then | 20:22 |
| Quintasan | >buildin joschy | 20:22 |
| Quintasan | isn't exactly a life saver | 20:22 |
| Quintasan | but whatever | 20:22 |
| Quintasan | test building | 20:22 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: make it dep on newer polkit | 20:22 |
| Quintasan | I did | 20:23 |
| shadeslayer | thats all | 20:23 |
| shadeslayer | ok feel free to upload then :P | 20:23 |
| Quintasan | Like hell I will | 20:23 |
| shadeslayer | ill focus on QML + rekonq | 20:23 |
| Quintasan | QA comes first | 20:23 |
| shadeslayer | ^_^ | 20:23 |
| Quintasan | Ya testin' mah MOTU mad skillz? | 20:24 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: [11426.128699] QtDemoBrowser[8374] general protection ip:7f573e59cbfe sp:7fff09528490 error:0 in libQtWebKit.so.4.8.0[7f573d5dd000+1571000] | 20:24 |
| Quintasan | lol gz | 20:24 |
| Quintasan | FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU- | 20:25 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: /usr/bin/ld: note: 'XCreatePixmap' is defined in DSO /usr/lib64/libX11.so.6 so try adding it to the linker command line | 20:25 |
| Quintasan | /usr/lib64/libX11.so.6: could not read symbols: Invalid operation | 20:25 |
| Quintasan | how do we fix these? | 20:25 |
| markit | hi, hope not to be OT, but can't get answer in #kubuntu. I want set globally NOT to load microblog plasmoid (I'm installing a ltsp server), but can't find where to set it... any clue? | 20:25 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: pass custom linker flags to linker? | 20:26 |
| Quintasan | markit: I think kubuntu-default-settings is responsible for this | 20:26 |
| shadeslayer | using -l? | 20:26 |
| Quintasan | markit: You could uninstall this | 20:26 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: in rules or what? | 20:26 |
| shadeslayer | rules | 20:26 |
| Quintasan | yofel: ^^^ | 20:26 |
| Quintasan | well, my rules for recorditnow are most complicated ones | 20:26 |
| shadeslayer | its probably -l ... i dont remember it for sure | 20:27 |
| shadeslayer | ^_^ | 20:27 |
| Quintasan | dh $@ --parallel --with kde | 20:27 |
| Quintasan | :D | 20:27 |
| shadeslayer | rofl | 20:27 |
| Daskreech | Quintasan: I love fudge | 20:27 |
| Quintasan | What the hell is fudge? | 20:27 |
| shadeslayer | so | 20:27 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: rekonq will have a interface like this : http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7-snapshot/demos-declarative-webbrowser.html | 20:27 |
| Daskreech | like hard chocolate brownies :) | 20:27 |
| shadeslayer | supreme | 20:27 |
| Quintasan | It looks like,errr GTK app? | 20:28 |
| yofel | Quintasan: rather ask Scott, I generally fail at understanding how to fix this http://wiki.debian.org/ToolChain/DSOLinking | 20:28 |
| shadeslayer | Daskreech: hard? isnt fudge liquid chocolate etc? | 20:28 |
| Quintasan | /troll | 20:28 |
| Quintasan | yofel: Oh, great, damn you natty linke | 20:28 |
| Quintasan | linker* | 20:28 |
| Daskreech | shadeslayer: not the kind I like :) it's the melted version of the real fudge | 20:28 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 20:28 |
| markit | Quintasan: but what is the file with the config? | 20:28 |
| shadeslayer | gold linker-- | 20:28 |
| Quintasan | markit: sorry, can't help you there, I didn't mess with this one | 20:29 |
| Quintasan | markit: https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kubuntu-default-settings/ubuntu | 20:29 |
| Quintasan | markit: this has our current default settings | 20:29 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger maybe can help you as he isn't busy | 20:30 |
| Quintasan | :) | 20:30 |
| apachelogger | https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/libs/liblikeback | 20:31 |
| Quintasan | @_@ | 20:31 |
| Quintasan | another useless project of yours? | 20:31 |
| apachelogger | yes | 20:31 |
| Quintasan | Great! | 20:32 |
| Quintasan | Facebook fanpage? | 20:32 |
| Quintasan | Count me in | 20:32 |
| Quintasan | >UnderstandingDSOLinkChange | 20:33 |
| Quintasan | Like hell this is possible | 20:33 |
| shadeslayer | im going to have fun with QML and C++ | 20:34 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: ping | 20:34 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: PONG | 20:34 |
| ScottK | (sorry for the cap lock) | 20:34 |
| shadeslayer | agateau: pingly | 20:35 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Got a second? I can't get this damn DSOLinker stuff to work | 20:35 |
| shadeslayer | agateau: i can haz source from QML demo @ UDS? | 20:35 |
| ScottK | I often can't either, but will be glad to try to help. | 20:35 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/549612 | 20:35 |
| Quintasan | My rules are pretty straightforward | 20:35 |
| shadeslayer | ^_^ | 20:36 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/549613/ <-- rules | 20:36 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: You need to pass -lX11 to the linker. | 20:36 |
| ScottK | You'll need to fiddle with the upstream build system to do this. | 20:36 |
| Quintasan | Oh god. | 20:37 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: Is it CMake? | 20:37 |
| Quintasan | I hoped it would be solvable with chaning rules | 20:37 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Yup | 20:37 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: Look at scribus for an example of this with a CMake pacakge. | 20:37 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: see i was right about the -l flag :P | 20:38 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: Well, I figured as much when getting Stepmania to compile but I hoped I would get away with chaning debian/rules instead of meddling with source | 20:39 |
| shadeslayer | hahaha | 20:39 |
| shadeslayer | never that easy :D | 20:39 |
| ScottK | Sometimes it is. | 20:43 |
| ScottK | But usually only with older packages that use long form debian/rules. | 20:43 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Why they did change that anyways? IMO it creates much more confusion than benefits | 20:45 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: In the long run it will lead to fewer unneeded dependencies and better performance. | 20:45 |
| ScottK | Everytime we do something like this it's painful at first, then it's annoying, then it's normal. | 20:46 |
| Quintasan | Awesome. Gotta get used to it. | 20:46 |
| Quintasan | urgh | 20:46 |
| shadeslayer | like python 2.7 ^_^ | 20:46 |
| Quintasan | is defined in DSO /tmp/buildd/recorditnow-0.8.1/obj-x86_64-linux-gnu/lib/librecorditnow_plugin.so | 20:46 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: linking to this is going to be hard I guess | 20:46 |
| yofel | that was to fix those dh_shlibdeps "dependency on X could be prevented if Y wouldn't be uselessy linked against it" right? | 20:47 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: Probably, but once you've done a few it gets easier. | 20:47 |
| ScottK | yofel: Yes. | 20:47 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: how do I link in CMake to those libs? There is probably no neat variable like ${X11_LIBRARIES} | 20:48 |
| * ScottK did that once. Now to see if I can remember what package it was. | 20:49 | |
| ScottK | Quintasan: It's in Scribus. See the kubuntu_06 patch. | 20:50 |
| ScottK | ${X11_LIBRARIES} is exactly the one. | 20:50 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: ${X11_LIBRARIES} worked fine | 20:51 |
| Quintasan | now I get /usr/bin/ld: note: 'RecordItNowPlugin::staticMetaObject' is defined in DSO /tmp/buildd/recorditnow-0.8.1/obj-x86_64-linux-gnu/lib/librecorditnow_plugin.so so try adding it to the linker command line | 20:51 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: Also make sure you build-dep on libx11-dev since you link against it. | 20:51 |
| ScottK | I'm not sure on that one. | 20:51 |
| Quintasan | Well, I'll ask around tomorrow. | 20:53 |
| yofel | that's probably at the wrong place in the linker command line, now figure out how to reorder that... | 20:54 |
| ScottK | Good point. | 20:54 |
| Quintasan | yofel: find_package(RecordMyDesktop REQUIRED) | 20:55 |
| Quintasan | in CMakeLists.txt | 20:55 |
| yofel | I fear I know less about cmake than you do.. | 20:56 |
| Quintasan | and then in <source>/cmake/modules we have a neat FindRecordMyDesktop.cmake | 20:56 |
| Quintasan | Though I have no idea how to edit it | 20:56 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: I thought about writing a module like that one in Scribus patch, however that might be a overkill | 21:02 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: You shouldn't need it I don't think. | 21:02 |
| ScottK | I suspect you just need to add a link command in the right spot. | 21:03 |
| sheytan | shadeslayer looks like my gimp mood is back :D | 21:04 |
| shadeslayer | \o/ | 21:04 |
| sheytan | this means you can expect some cool stuff :D | 21:04 |
| shadeslayer | wheeeee | 21:04 |
| * shadeslayer is still looking at QML with no idea where to start form | 21:05 | |
| shadeslayer | *from | 21:05 |
| shadeslayer | stuff isnt working in qmlviewer im afraid | 21:05 |
| sheytan | shadeslayer ask some plasma devs. They should know how to animate an svg | 21:05 |
| shadeslayer | notmart probably knows how :P | 21:06 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you just do not know what you do :P | 21:07 |
| * apachelogger notes that qtsvg probably does not support animated svg | 21:07 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: whut? | 21:07 |
| apachelogger | or only simple one | 21:07 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 21:07 |
| apachelogger | it only implements some tiny version of some svg standard | 21:07 |
| shadeslayer | SVG | 21:07 |
| shadeslayer | i have no idea on that | 21:07 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: no, the not knowing thing was directed at your qmlviewer not doing tings :P | 21:08 |
| shadeslayer | thats why i said, talk to notmart | 21:08 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 21:08 |
| apachelogger | in 9 out of 9 cases a disfunct qmlviewer is the result of PEBKAC | 21:08 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: notmart confirmed its not working for him as well :P | 21:08 |
| apachelogger | then go talk to thiago | 21:09 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i open qmlviewer -> point it at a QML file -> white blank page | 21:09 |
| apachelogger | and a recommendation | 21:09 |
| apachelogger | mention that it might be socket related | 21:10 |
| shadeslayer | yes? | 21:10 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 21:10 |
| * apachelogger giggles in evil sort of manner | 21:10 | |
| apachelogger | :D :D :D :D :D | 21:10 |
| * apachelogger giggles some more | 21:10 | |
| * apachelogger forgot to breath and faints | 21:10 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: 0_o | 21:11 |
| * shadeslayer smells something fishy | 21:11 | |
| apachelogger | Quintasan's feet that is | 21:11 |
| * apachelogger pokes Nightrose | 21:12 | |
| * Nightrose pokes apachelogger | 21:13 | |
| * apachelogger cuddles the Nightrose | 21:13 | |
| * Nightrose huggles apachelogger | 21:13 | |
| apachelogger | \o/ | 21:13 |
| * apachelogger hugs shadeslayer | 21:13 | |
| * shadeslayer hugs Quintasan and gives him a better linker | 21:13 | |
| * Quintasan hits apachelogger with an invisible pink unicorn | 21:14 | |
| shadeslayer | Nightrose: a big GCI task might be coming your way | 21:14 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: Upload it to main :P | 21:14 |
| shadeslayer | like | 21:14 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: I NO HAVE UPLOAD RIGHTS | 21:14 |
| Nightrose | shadeslayer: ? | 21:14 |
| Quintasan | [coolface] | 21:14 |
| Quintasan | Problem, shadeslayer? | 21:15 |
| shadeslayer | Nightrose: we are discussing about writing rekonq new tab page in QML :P | 21:15 |
| === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - 2011 same procedure as every year: 2 releases and many hugs | Lots to do https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Please test KDE in lucid-proposed LP: #691068 | ||
| Nightrose | shadeslayer: ah heh | 21:15 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: the proper sentence is "no upload right granted I have been" | 21:15 |
| shadeslayer | but the only problem being .... needs insanse amounts of time | 21:15 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: either is fine ^_^ | 21:15 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: dude... qmlviewer is the broke | 21:16 |
| shadeslayer | http://doc.trolltech.com/4.7.old/qmlviewer.html | 21:16 |
| Quintasan | Apparently apachelogger knows some sophisticated language | 21:16 |
| apachelogger | omg | 21:16 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: ^ | 21:16 |
| shadeslayer | qmlviewer myqmlfile.qml << does not work | 21:16 |
| apachelogger | Everything counts! | 21:16 |
| Quintasan | >implying that QML will ever be any good | 21:16 |
| Quintasan | They are like bindings | 21:16 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: its already good | 21:16 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 21:16 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: worked last I tried it | 21:16 |
| Quintasan | They are good if they work. | 21:16 |
| shadeslayer | well ... yes it s! | 21:16 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: what is the fil0r? | 21:17 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: on the webbrowser example? | 21:17 |
| shadeslayer | one sec | 21:17 |
| * apachelogger wonders what would happen if kubuntu had a baby with depeche mode | 21:17 | |
| apachelogger | or even kubuntu2 based on darwin | 21:17 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: /usr/lib/qt4/demos/declarative/webbrowser/ | 21:17 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: >>Make bindings for 4.7 compile | 21:17 |
| Quintasan | Quote of the day | 21:17 |
| shadeslayer | please ^^ | 21:17 |
| shadeslayer | and amarok goes and adds QtScriptGenerator as a build dep | 21:18 |
| shadeslayer | their compile system is shitz | 21:18 |
| Quintasan | Oh and that FTBFS too | 21:18 |
| Quintasan | qmake------------------------- | 21:18 |
| shadeslayer | rofl | 21:18 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: works | 21:18 |
| Quintasan | What works? | 21:18 |
| shadeslayer | qmake-- to the powa ∞ | 21:18 |
| apachelogger | http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot131.png | 21:19 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: you get a browser? | 21:19 |
| apachelogger | nokia | 21:19 |
| apachelogger | connecting people | 21:19 |
| apachelogger | only yesterday I had connection with someone | 21:19 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: what file did you open? | 21:19 |
| Quintasan | Y U DO DIS | 21:19 |
| Quintasan | it looks like MAC | 21:19 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: the qml file? | 21:19 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: which one!!! | 21:19 |
| apachelogger | there is only one | 21:19 |
| shadeslayer | there is one QML file | 21:19 |
| shadeslayer | and then there is a folder | 21:19 |
| shadeslayer | with more QML files | 21:20 |
| * Quintasan is outta here, ppl designing apps to look like mac ones | 21:20 | |
| apachelogger | the folder sez contents | 21:20 |
| apachelogger | obviously that is not what one starts | 21:20 |
| apachelogger | -.- | 21:20 |
| apachelogger | you do not start the plugins in /usr/lib/kde4 either, do you? | 21:20 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://i.imgur.com/KALCw.png | 21:20 |
| apachelogger | everything counts! | 21:20 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 21:21 |
| shadeslayer | file:///Work/webbrowser/webbrowser.qml:43:1: module "QtWebKit" is not installed | 21:21 |
| shadeslayer | 0_o | 21:21 |
| apachelogger | haha | 21:21 |
| sheytan | shadeslayer http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2131/82709005.png http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/307/14892812.png http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2586/57574205.png | 21:21 |
| apachelogger | the natty effect | 21:21 |
| apachelogger | righ thtere | 21:21 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 21:21 |
| sheytan | shadeslayer if you could animate the clock :) | 21:21 |
| apachelogger | why would he not? | 21:22 |
| apachelogger | the hands just need to be separate object thingies | 21:22 |
| shadeslayer | omg supreme QML awesomeness | 21:22 |
| sheytan | apachelogger yeah :D | 21:22 |
| apachelogger | then one can easily rotate them | 21:22 |
| sheytan | shadeslayer like? | 21:22 |
| shadeslayer | like what apachelogger posted | 21:23 |
| sheytan | shadeslayer no, my mocks | 21:23 |
| apachelogger | you are all totally confusing | 21:23 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 21:23 |
| shadeslayer | well ... theyre something that can be done without QML | 21:24 |
| Quintasan | HERP DERP RETARDED LINKER | 21:24 |
| Quintasan | I'm going to bed | 21:24 |
| Quintasan | School's back tomorrow :/ | 21:24 |
| apachelogger | dont you have better things to do Quintasan? | 21:25 |
| Quintasan | Like what? | 21:25 |
| jjesse | study? | 21:25 |
| apachelogger | connect with people | 21:25 |
| apachelogger | or do qml things to shadeslayer | 21:25 |
| jjesse | homework? | 21:25 |
| apachelogger | or do neon things to everyone | 21:25 |
| apachelogger | or dance and sing and cry | 21:25 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: I'm already feeling affected by your madness by being connected to IC | 21:26 |
| Quintasan | IRC* | 21:26 |
| apachelogger | or learn to fight with a lightsaber | 21:26 |
| apachelogger | or to fly like a bird | 21:26 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: thats something to do at UDS ... | 21:26 |
| shadeslayer | fighting with lightsabres | 21:26 |
| apachelogger | that would be handy thing to be able to pull off | 21:26 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: Neon things? Fix that damn QtScriptGenerator | 21:26 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: it was done | 21:26 |
| apachelogger | or has been done? | 21:26 |
| markit | plasmapkg -l does not show anything with "blog" in the name... any idea about what the "microbloggin" plasmoid is named? | 21:26 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: go make sweet love to my hand | 21:27 |
| apachelogger | markit: twitter | 21:27 |
| apachelogger | I think | 21:27 |
| Quintasan | yus | 21:27 |
| Quintasan | logic | 21:27 |
| markit | apachelogger: argh! :( thanks | 21:27 |
| apachelogger | kde needs a micro blogging service | 21:27 |
| apachelogger | and call it sparkles | 21:28 |
| apachelogger | muhahaha | 21:28 |
| apachelogger | markit: dont mention it | 21:28 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: hell no, I can only rip off your hand with axe | 21:28 |
| Quintasan | :P | 21:28 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: and then make sweet love to it? | 21:28 |
| Quintasan | No, actually I planned to burn it. | 21:28 |
| apachelogger | oh | 21:28 |
| Quintasan | with plasma | 21:28 |
| apachelogger | that is utter useless | 21:28 |
| * apachelogger dds Quintasan | 21:28 | |
| Quintasan | Really? | 21:28 |
| Quintasan | Have some pythons then | 21:29 |
| apachelogger | one never knows when one needs a Quintasan backup | 21:29 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: that is spelled pyth0rns | 21:29 |
| * Quintasan throws pythons at apachelogger | 21:29 | |
| Quintasan | pyth0rns are thrown as well | 21:29 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: it is still spelled pyth0rns | 21:29 |
| * apachelogger does not care and place some javas in the way | 21:29 | |
| Quintasan | Oh and while we are at throwing things | 21:29 |
| * Quintasan throws kdebindings at apachelogger | 21:30 | |
| apachelogger | pyth0rns supposedly could live on javas | 21:30 |
| apachelogger | that is scary | 21:30 |
| Quintasan | You can't beat that | 21:30 |
| shadeslayer | rofl | 21:30 |
| apachelogger | kdebindings? | 21:30 |
| apachelogger | easily | 21:30 |
| * apachelogger pulls out gtkmm | 21:30 | |
| apachelogger | muhahahaha | 21:30 |
| * shadeslayer throws QML at apachelogger | 21:30 | |
| Quintasan | PFFFFTHTHSHSHHTH | 21:30 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: Have some qmake built using qmake | 21:30 |
| Quintasan | Logic | 21:30 |
| shadeslayer | lawl | 21:30 |
| Quintasan | or pyth0rns interpreter written in pyth0rns | 21:30 |
| apachelogger | well | 21:30 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: that would be supreme | 21:31 |
| Quintasan | Ultimate combo | 21:31 |
| shadeslayer | qmake built with qmake | 21:31 |
| apachelogger | how does one get a compiler.... | 21:31 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: pyth0rns interpreter in pyth0rns? | 21:31 |
| * yofel remembers gentoo | 21:31 | |
| apachelogger | pyth0rn in pyth0rn did not work out | 21:31 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: that would mean the end of the world | 21:31 |
| apachelogger | they tried it | 21:31 |
| apachelogger | and realized pyth0rn is no good | 21:31 |
| yofel | building gcc implied gcc building itself several times.. | 21:31 |
| apachelogger | so they used a good language again | 21:31 |
| shadeslayer | and the world was at peace again | 21:32 |
| Quintasan | Whatever, enjoy ur PyPy and kdebindings with PyPy bindings apachelogger | 21:32 |
| Quintasan | :> | 21:32 |
| * apachelogger smooches | 21:32 | |
| yofel | apachelogger: got a project for you: rewrite bazaar in java | 21:32 |
| Quintasan | oh god | 21:32 |
| Quintasan | please no | 21:32 |
| apachelogger | I have enough stupid projects | 21:32 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 21:32 |
| Quintasan | Y U JAVA IN MY BZR | 21:32 |
| shadeslayer | wait no | 21:32 |
| Quintasan | or wait | 21:32 |
| yofel | why not? can't be worse than in pyth0rn | 21:32 |
| apachelogger | I can have nerdgasms the next 300 years | 21:32 |
| Quintasan | isnt bzr in python? | 21:32 |
| shadeslayer | write bzr in git | 21:32 |
| Quintasan | Y U PYTHONS IN MY BZR | 21:33 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: that would be supreme lol | 21:33 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: its already Pythonised | 21:33 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: inorite | 21:33 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: I assume you are planning to go to the next UDS | 21:33 |
| apachelogger | no | 21:33 |
| apachelogger | I am flying | 21:33 |
| Quintasan | lol k, so you will be there? | 21:33 |
| apachelogger | to hawai | 21:34 |
| * Quintasan found "Python" beer | 21:34 | |
| shadeslayer | to re-write bzr in git | 21:34 |
| apachelogger | yes | 21:34 |
| apachelogger | sekrit meeting with linus | 21:34 |
| apachelogger | oh | 21:34 |
| Quintasan | if noone will have bought it till then I'm going to bring one for u | 21:34 |
| shadeslayer | and KDE in Java | 21:34 |
| apachelogger | I should not have told you that | 21:34 |
| apachelogger | darn | 21:34 |
| apachelogger | everyone pleae meet with an "accident" | 21:34 |
| * apachelogger does not have time to take care of that | 21:34 | |
| shadeslayer | sure | 21:34 |
| apachelogger | thanks, I appreciate it | 21:34 |
| * shadeslayer throws Java at Quintasan | 21:34 | |
| * shadeslayer throws bzr at yofel | 21:35 | |
| * shadeslayer git reverts sheytan | 21:35 | |
| yofel | ouch | 21:35 |
| apachelogger | :O | 21:35 |
| apachelogger | this is horror | 21:35 |
| yofel | heavy... | 21:35 |
| * shadeslayer sudo rm -rf apachelogger | 21:35 | |
| apachelogger | a blood bath | 21:35 |
| apachelogger | omg | 21:35 |
| shadeslayer | also | 21:35 |
| * yofel throws anit-Stuttgart_21 beer at shadeslayer | 21:35 | |
| yofel | s/anit/anti/ | 21:35 |
| shadeslayer | sudo apt-get remove --purge shadeslayer Riddell valorie apachelogger | 21:35 |
| shadeslayer | wait no | 21:36 |
| shadeslayer | s/apachelogger/agateau | 21:36 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. | 21:36 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: no christmas presents for you this year | 21:36 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i wonder where these incidents are reported :> | 21:36 |
| shadeslayer | sudo apt-get remove --purge santa | 21:36 |
| apachelogger | actually | 21:36 |
| apachelogger | they get reported to my trashbin | 21:37 |
| shadeslayer | oh btw didnt you know? | 21:37 |
| apachelogger | no | 21:37 |
| shadeslayer | i chrooted into your machine | 21:37 |
| apachelogger | yes | 21:37 |
| shadeslayer | so | 21:37 |
| apachelogger | no | 21:37 |
| shadeslayer | IM IN YOUR SYSTEMZ | 21:37 |
| apachelogger | yes | 21:37 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: Kubuntu-2011 same procedure as every year : 2 releases and many bugs | 21:38 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 21:38 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: all your slash proc are belong to me? | 21:38 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: uh | 21:38 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: all your / belong to me | 21:38 |
| apachelogger | you are the first to get that ;) | 21:38 |
| * apachelogger is a sneaky topic writer ;) | 21:39 | |
| shadeslayer | you win 100 internets for that | 21:39 |
| shadeslayer | also | 21:39 |
| apachelogger | that is 5 billion INR | 21:40 |
| shadeslayer | aww .. no kubotu | 21:40 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: are you UDS? | 21:40 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: or just 5 Euros | 21:40 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 21:40 |
| shadeslayer | and i thought rbelem was UDS | 21:40 |
| apachelogger | for that sort of money you get a house around here | 21:40 |
| shadeslayer | oh .. wow .... Europe is cheap :P | 21:40 |
| apachelogger | yes | 21:41 |
| apachelogger | not like the US | 21:41 |
| shadeslayer | i can probably buy the whole of Europe for 100 Euros | 21:41 |
| apachelogger | you only get a door knob or something | 21:41 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: europe got more houses than that^!! | 21:41 |
| shadeslayer | ^_^ | 21:42 |
| shadeslayer | well | 21:42 |
| apachelogger | so | 21:42 |
| apachelogger | the next phonon release will be called iguanos | 21:42 |
| apachelogger | discuss! | 21:42 |
| shadeslayer | qrc:/browser/Browser.qml:43:1: module "Qt.labs.folderlistmodel" is not installed | 21:43 |
| shadeslayer | whee | 21:43 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: does it fix the sound? | 21:43 |
| apachelogger | in dragon, yes | 21:43 |
| apachelogger | thanks to fedora ;) | 21:43 |
| shadeslayer | i dont care if its called "shadeslayer" | 21:43 |
| apachelogger | you lazy kubuntu folks do not contribute to phonon!!!!@ | 21:43 |
| shadeslayer | i do care if it fixes amarok and sound | 21:43 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: we try to fix Kubuntu | 21:44 |
| shadeslayer | see that is why Fedora is broken | 21:44 |
| apachelogger | good luck with that | 21:44 |
| apachelogger | no | 21:44 |
| apachelogger | fedora is working awesome since I work on it | 21:44 |
| shadeslayer | people work on KDE projects too much :P | 21:44 |
| shadeslayer | omg you switched to fedora? | 21:44 |
| shadeslayer | Y U NO LONGER A KUBUNTU DEV | 21:44 |
| ulysses | TRAITOR | 21:45 |
| apachelogger | jealous you are | 21:45 |
| apachelogger | it is the way of the dark side! | 21:45 |
| shadeslayer | quick someone take away upload rights from apachelogger before he uploads something with a dep on locusts | 21:45 |
| apachelogger | lolcode? | 21:45 |
| * yofel goes installing openSUSE while watching apachelogger getting ripped apart | 21:45 | |
| * shadeslayer shoots BB gun in yofel's direction | 21:46 | |
| * apachelogger notes that Nightrose has been running opensuse for weeks now | 21:47 | |
| apachelogger | discuss! | 21:47 |
| Nightrose | -.- | 21:47 |
| Nightrose | lies! | 21:47 |
| shadeslayer | well | 21:47 |
| shadeslayer | give it 4 months | 21:47 |
| apachelogger | cause you're hot then youre cold | 21:48 |
| apachelogger | youre yes then youre no | 21:48 |
| apachelogger | ! | 21:48 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 21:48 |
| apachelogger | opensuse are rupy overlords | 21:48 |
| shadeslayer | why cant we be loved like openSuse | 21:48 |
| apachelogger | they haz websith made out of rupy | 21:48 |
| apachelogger | I tell you why | 21:49 |
| apachelogger | because we do not go out there | 21:49 |
| apachelogger | and tell them | 21:49 |
| shadeslayer | maybe we should be using OBS in the first place | 21:49 |
| apachelogger | QVector<User*> them; | 21:49 |
| apachelogger | for example | 21:49 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer does not have a blog | 21:49 |
| apachelogger | ... | 21:49 |
| apachelogger | for example | 21:49 |
| shadeslayer | that just went over my head | 21:49 |
| shadeslayer | OH | 21:50 |
| shadeslayer | OHHH | 21:50 |
| apachelogger | apachelogger only blogs nerdgasms | 21:50 |
| shadeslayer | yes | 21:50 |
| apachelogger | for example | 21:50 |
| apachelogger | yofel doesnt have a blog | 21:50 |
| shadeslayer | i have to make a blog | 21:50 |
| shadeslayer | plz2suggest domain name | 21:50 |
| apachelogger | for example Nightrose does not go to conferences and does talks on how awesome opensuse is | 21:50 |
| apachelogger | ehm | 21:50 |
| apachelogger | kubuntu | 21:50 |
| shadeslayer | i haz to blog about QGraphicsWebView | 21:50 |
| apachelogger | for example | 21:50 |
| yofel | hey, I barely find stuff to put on identi.ca, forget a blog ^^ | 21:50 |
| shadeslayer | and get it to planetkde | 21:50 |
| apachelogger | kubuntu2 is not yet there | 21:50 |
| apachelogger | and we need it | 21:50 |
| shadeslayer | and then achieve world domination | 21:50 |
| apachelogger | yofel: you need to make stuff up | 21:51 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: without actually doing anything | 21:51 |
| apachelogger | one day I want us to own all the planet! | 21:51 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: just do : git clone apachelogger | 21:51 |
| apachelogger | coordinated planet attack | 21:51 |
| shadeslayer | and voila | 21:51 |
| yofel | XD | 21:51 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: --mirror | 21:51 |
| apachelogger | that reminds me | 21:52 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: throw in some heavy words like QML and QGS and QGV and QGraphicsWebView and your done | 21:52 |
| * apachelogger wanders off to fix0r the branchery | 21:52 | |
| rbelem | shadeslayer, i was at uds :-) | 21:52 |
| shadeslayer | !!! | 21:52 |
| shadeslayer | rbelem: thats why!!! | 21:52 |
| rbelem | hum??? | 21:53 |
| shadeslayer | nvm | 21:53 |
| apachelogger | nev0r mend | 21:54 |
| rbelem | shadeslayer, i did not read the log, i'm a little bit lazy :-) what were you talk about? | 21:54 |
| apachelogger | push push push | 21:54 |
| * apachelogger hugs rbelem | 21:54 | |
| markit | I want to set something globally, and I can put a config file in /etc/kde4, that corresponds to ~/.kde/share/config/ for each user. But what if I want to set globally a file that, in a home, would be in ~/.kde/share/apps/app_name? | 21:54 |
| shadeslayer | omg omg | 21:55 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: a little bit?!?!? :O | 21:55 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: yofel http://gitorious.org/build-tool/kde-trunk-recipe | 21:55 |
| apachelogger | wah? | 21:55 |
| shadeslayer | \o. | 21:55 |
| shadeslayer | \o/ | 21:55 |
| shadeslayer | \o/ | 21:55 |
| shadeslayer | \o/ | 21:55 |
| shadeslayer | \o/ | 21:55 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, :-D | 21:55 |
| * rbelem hugs apachelogger back | 21:55 | |
| apachelogger | markit: I do not think that is possible | 21:56 |
| apachelogger | markit: a strace will tell | 21:56 |
| markit | apachelogger: I'm not that "guru" | 21:56 |
| markit | I have that "/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/apps/plasma-desktop/init/00-defaultLayout.js" loads "twitter", and I want it not to do | 21:56 |
| markit | but if I change such a file, next update of kde will revert it back | 21:57 |
| apachelogger | strace -f -o log somekdeapp | 21:57 |
| apachelogger | then quit the app and take a look at the log file | 21:57 |
| markit | so I need a global way to set it | 21:57 |
| apachelogger | grep -it for apps/appname | 21:57 |
| apachelogger | for example | 21:57 |
| apachelogger | hm | 21:57 |
| apachelogger | oh | 21:57 |
| apachelogger | possibly I will be eating cia for kde in a bit | 21:57 |
| markit | what do you mean? (I'm not native english speaker) | 21:58 |
| apachelogger | markit: mean by what exactly? | 21:58 |
| markit | what does " will be eating cia for kde in a bit" mean? | 21:59 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 21:59 |
| shadeslayer | markit: cia = cia.vc and kde is well ... KDE :P | 22:00 |
| shadeslayer | or maybe he means CIA | 22:00 |
| * markit googling for cia.vc | 22:00 | |
| markit | ah, CIA ok | 22:00 |
| shadeslayer | which would become ....erm ... rather .... messy | 22:00 |
| markit | so he means that will investigate this stuff or not? | 22:00 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: clarify!!! | 22:00 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 22:01 |
| markit | lol | 22:01 |
| apachelogger | I mean CIA | 22:01 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger->setClarifymode(true); | 22:01 |
| apachelogger | segfault | 22:01 |
| markit | ok, so you are trying to figure out? | 22:01 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: you are buggy | 22:01 |
| * markit lost in the conversation | 22:01 | |
| shadeslayer | i need to fix0r you | 22:01 |
| apachelogger | you are calling nonexistant functions!~!!! | 22:01 |
| apachelogger | also if you fix me I end up with funny layout | 22:02 |
| * apachelogger does not want that | 22:02 | |
| shadeslayer | rofl | 22:02 |
| shadeslayer | my layout works now! | 22:02 |
| shadeslayer | a bit of a hack tho | 22:02 |
| shadeslayer | anyhow lets help markit | 22:02 |
| shadeslayer | markit: so you want to remove the plasmoid? | 22:02 |
| markit | shadeslayer: yes, I want students have the clean desktop without that distracting plasmoid :) | 22:03 |
| markit | (a ltsp-kubuntu based installation for a school) | 22:03 |
| markit | I've had so far a very hard time find config by config how to set globally things the way I need | 22:03 |
| markit | and I've only 2 big missing point at the moment | 22:04 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 22:04 |
| markit | one is the "twitter" plasmoid | 22:04 |
| apachelogger | markit: maybe you should just ditch kubuntu-default-setitngs? | 22:04 |
| apachelogger | and create your own? | 22:04 |
| markit | the other is limit the user to just "logout" (not hybernate, switch user, lock, etc) | 22:04 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ENOTUSERFRIENDLY | 22:04 |
| apachelogger | yeah, but admin friendly | 22:04 |
| shadeslayer | that | 22:04 |
| apachelogger | that is what the whole system is made for | 22:04 |
| shadeslayer | true | 22:05 |
| markit | apachelogger: probably each time I update, kubuntu-default-setitngs are restored... I've put my global settings in /etc/kde4 so far | 22:05 |
| apachelogger | one could also cascade on the kubuntu-default-settings ;) | 22:05 |
| shadeslayer | cascade? | 22:05 |
| apachelogger | markit: well, not if you remove the package | 22:05 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: yes | 22:05 |
| markit | oh, there is a package? wow | 22:05 |
| shadeslayer | markit: lol :P | 22:05 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: lol! :P | 22:06 |
| markit | a bit drastic... | 22:06 |
| apachelogger | markit: http://techbase.kde.org/SysAdmin/Kiosk/Introduction | 22:06 |
| markit | apachelogger: thanks, I've read it | 22:07 |
| apachelogger | oh, wlel then you should know how ot casecade ontop of kubuntu-default-settings ;) | 22:07 |
| markit | in fact, as I said, I'm acting in /etc/kde4 | 22:07 |
| apachelogger | yeah, but that is not very suitable | 22:07 |
| markit | but this time is not a usual setting | 22:07 |
| apachelogger | you could just create a new profile and stack that ontop of kubuntu-default-settings | 22:07 |
| apachelogger | that way you also solve the problem with share/apps | 22:07 |
| apachelogger | as profiles can have that, whereas /etc apparently cannot | 22:08 |
| markit | [22:54] <markit> I want to set something globally, and I can put a config file in /etc/kde4, that corresponds to ~/.kde/share/config/ for each user. But what if I want to set globally a file that, in a home, would be in ~/.kde/share/apps/app_name? | 22:08 |
| apachelogger | markit: take a look at /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile | 22:08 |
| shadeslayer | omg | 22:08 |
| shadeslayer | i just realized something | 22:08 |
| apachelogger | you can put *everything* you can put in .kde also in a kiosk profile | 22:08 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i did not send you the user profile thingy :P | 22:08 |
| markit | apachelogger: ok, thanks a lot | 22:08 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I no | 22:08 |
| shadeslayer | ok good | 22:09 |
| shadeslayer | because i lost it somewhere | 22:09 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: only martin and scott did IIRC | 22:09 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: please write again | 22:09 |
| shadeslayer | aww | 22:09 |
| apachelogger | the only reason I did not yet rant about that is because more important things are on my todo | 22:09 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: fix rekonq or wirte user profile | 22:09 |
| apachelogger | like a bazillion of them | 22:09 |
| apachelogger | but eventually | 22:09 |
| apachelogger | ... | 22:09 |
| shadeslayer | anyhow ... i need to sleep | 22:09 |
| shadeslayer | and to think of a wp domain name | 22:10 |
| markit | last question, since you are so kind and know a lot... I want to not have the user have the "lock", "switch user" "hybernate" stuff in K menu... any config for that? | 22:10 |
| shadeslayer | markit: probably no | 22:10 |
| markit | shadeslayer: is really a problem in multiuser... ltsp for instance | 22:10 |
| shadeslayer | i suppose if you dont give the users sudo access they cant do it | 22:10 |
| shadeslayer | but im not sure on this | 22:11 |
| markit | hybernate works even if not sudo | 22:11 |
| shadeslayer | hmm...no idea on that | 22:11 |
| markit | I had to modify a script so this capability is not detected, but is an hack and each update reverts things back | 22:11 |
| shadeslayer | but iirc ... removing sudo removes some stuff | 22:11 |
| shadeslayer | markit: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=901642 | 22:12 |
| shadeslayer | markit: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SuspendHowto | 22:13 |
| markit | the /etc/default/acpi-support did not worked last time I tried | 22:13 |
| shadeslayer | oh oh | 22:14 |
| shadeslayer | theres a dbus interface for it | 22:14 |
| shadeslayer | lets see | 22:14 |
| markit | I had to edit /usr/bin/pm-is-supported and add exit 1 on top | 22:14 |
| markit | I've the fear KDE in general, or in kubuntu in particular, is focusing more and more in "single user", killing the best feature in GNU/Linux, that is solid multiuser support | 22:15 |
| markit | hope I'm wrong | 22:15 |
| markit | but trying to setup ltsp has been so far really frustrating on this regard | 22:16 |
| shadeslayer | markit: check qdbus and org.freedesktop.PowerManagement.Inhibit | 22:16 |
| shadeslayer | aha! | 22:18 |
| markit | mm seems that disables AUTOMATIC hybernation, not the possibility to hybernate | 22:18 |
| shadeslayer | markit: http://paste.kde.org/1695 | 22:18 |
| shadeslayer | markit: what about method bool org.freedesktop.PowerManagement.CanHibernate() | 22:18 |
| markit | how can I set it by bash and have it permanent? I'm not a kde developer (unfortunatly) | 22:19 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 22:20 |
| * apachelogger just had a good flood session with CIA :D | 22:22 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: is dbus-send the preferred method for this? | 22:22 |
| apachelogger | it was awesome | 22:22 |
| apachelogger | pino will kill me | 22:22 |
| shadeslayer | :S | 22:22 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: qdbus | 22:22 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: for what? | 22:22 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: he should | 22:22 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: disabling hibernate | 22:22 |
| apachelogger | qdbus | 22:23 |
| apachelogger | from where? a script? | 22:23 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: qdbus org.freedesktop.PowerManagement.Inhibit /org/freedesktop/PowerManagement/Inhibit org.freedesktop.PowerManagement.CanHibernate | 22:23 |
| shadeslayer | bash | 22:23 |
| shadeslayer | how do we set it to false | 22:23 |
| apachelogger | well, depends on the script and its usage but generally qdbus | 22:23 |
| markit | well, I would love to have it set permanently disabled | 22:23 |
| apachelogger | as dbus-send is a PITA to use | 22:23 |
| markit | not disable "on the fly" | 22:23 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you cannot? | 22:23 |
| shadeslayer | yes, but i cant get : qdbus org.freedesktop.PowerManagement.Inhibit /org/freedesktop/PowerManagement/Inhibit org.freedesktop.PowerManagement.CanHibernate 'false' : to wrok | 22:23 |
| apachelogger | that is a getter | 22:23 |
| apachelogger | as inidcated by the () | 22:24 |
| apachelogger | if you could set something it woudl be (bool state) or somesuch | 22:24 |
| shadeslayer | qdbus org.freedesktop.PowerManagement.Inhibit /org/freedesktop/PowerManagement/Inhibit org.freedesktop.PowerManagement.CanSuspendChanged (bool false) | 22:25 |
| shadeslayer | zsh: unknown file attribute | 22:25 |
| apachelogger | dude | 22:25 |
| apachelogger | srsly | 22:25 |
| apachelogger | loose the () | 22:25 |
| apachelogger | and the bool | 22:25 |
| shadeslayer | still same thing | 22:26 |
| apachelogger | well | 22:26 |
| apachelogger | from the sounds of it is a signal | 22:26 |
| apachelogger | ... | 22:26 |
| shadeslayer | erm ... apparently yes | 22:26 |
| shadeslayer | doh | 22:26 |
| shadeslayer | there's a method | 22:26 |
| shadeslayer | can i use that? | 22:26 |
| apachelogger | wah? | 22:27 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: method bool org.freedesktop.PowerManagement.CanHibernate() | 22:27 |
| shadeslayer | omg ive lost qdbus output | 22:28 |
| apachelogger | dude | 22:28 |
| apachelogger | read the name | 22:28 |
| apachelogger | canHibernate | 22:28 |
| apachelogger | and returns a bool | 22:28 |
| apachelogger | now what could this be :P | 22:28 |
| shadeslayer | checking whether or not it can hibernate | 22:29 |
| shadeslayer | well then | 22:29 |
| shadeslayer | no idea | 22:29 |
| shadeslayer | could be done by dbus-send ... no idea tho | 22:29 |
| markit | don't you agree that some development should be done to ease life for multiuser environment? :) | 22:29 |
| apachelogger | like? | 22:29 |
| markit | like be able to control these aspects | 22:30 |
| markit | with global settings | 22:30 |
| apachelogger | what aspects? | 22:30 |
| shadeslayer | sheytan: can you post those mockups to the mailing list? :) | 22:30 |
| shadeslayer | sheytan: rekonq AT kde DOT org | 22:30 |
| markit | hybernate, lock, change user | 22:30 |
| apachelogger | what about them? | 22:30 |
| sheytan | shadeslayer do i have to subscribe? | 22:30 |
| shadeslayer | yes ... | 22:30 |
| shadeslayer | sheytan: how do we get back to you then! :P | 22:31 |
| shadeslayer | its low traffic | 22:31 |
| markit | apachelogger: default ltsp with kubuntu setup, every student, even if not belonging to sudo, can hybernate the server | 22:31 |
| sheytan | shadeslayer ok, will tomorrow :) | 22:31 |
| shadeslayer | sheytan: sure ... thanks! | 22:31 |
| markit | each student can lock or login with different user | 22:31 |
| markit | etc | 22:31 |
| markit | in short, is an hell | 22:31 |
| shadeslayer | i found something :P | 22:32 |
| shadeslayer | markit: http://i.imgur.com/jOMyu.png | 22:32 |
| markit | and is really hard to set thing globally... I've spent really a lot of time | 22:32 |
| markit | shadeslayer: is ONLY for reboot, not hybernate | 22:32 |
| shadeslayer | yeah .. trying to find somthing for hibernate | 22:33 |
| markit | shadeslayer: also should be extended to let specify an user, not only root | 22:33 |
| markit | i.e. remote: teacher | 22:33 |
| shadeslayer | markit: that would have to blamed on KDE upstream | 22:33 |
| markit | shadeslayer: I'm not "blaming", just politely arguing | 22:33 |
| markit | since often developers take it "personal" and say is not important, instead of face the problem | 22:34 |
| markit | so since you have been so kind to try to figure out how to solve, and found is not easy / possible, sure will back me on this :) | 22:34 |
| apachelogger | markit: well, if I am not mistaken switching should be controllable via consolekit | 22:35 |
| apachelogger | hibernate via hal most likely | 22:36 |
| markit | apachelogger: I would be very happy just removing the possibility from K menu | 22:36 |
| shadeslayer | hibernate is via pm-utils which is hal ... | 22:36 |
| apachelogger | markit: you could still hibernate from shell | 22:36 |
| markit | shadeslayer: I need acpid | 22:36 |
| markit | apachelogger: yes, but the possibility that a student hits the menu item is much higher | 22:37 |
| apachelogger | markit: you can configure hal to your liking by adding profiles or whatever they call it | 22:37 |
| apachelogger | markit: yeah, but if deactivated or locked to root in hal, then it is absolutely impossible for a student to do it | 22:37 |
| apachelogger | which I would deem saver | 22:37 |
| markit | I'll try to setup a edubuntu and see if they have the same issues, and if they don't, I will try to file a request in kde bug tracker | 22:38 |
| markit | I do love kde, that's why I'm trying to use it with ltsp, but I'm really in troubles so far | 22:38 |
| markit | thanks a lot for your help and suggestions! | 22:39 |
| shadeslayer | sorry we couldnt help out :( | 22:39 |
| apachelogger | markit: kde has ltsp integration problems | 22:39 |
| apachelogger | well, kde 3 had some supporting stuff | 22:39 |
| apachelogger | sadly currently no one has an interst in working on it | 22:40 |
| markit | apachelogger: in #ltsp they suggested me to give up kde in fact... | 22:40 |
| apachelogger | and business interst also seems low | 22:40 |
| apachelogger | markit: that is currious | 22:40 |
| shadeslayer | well that you can do one thing | 22:40 |
| markit | give up kde and ltsp | 22:40 |
| markit | since they all use gnome | 22:40 |
| apachelogger | usually I get asked to do LTSP stuff in KDE at least twice a year ^^ | 22:40 |
| shadeslayer | dude | 22:40 |
| shadeslayer | DUDE | 22:40 |
| apachelogger | whut? | 22:40 |
| shadeslayer | install gdm instead of kdm | 22:40 |
| shadeslayer | and no hibernate or reboot etc | 22:40 |
| shadeslayer | inside kmenu :P | 22:41 |
| shadeslayer | since it does not support it | 22:41 |
| apachelogger | oh | 22:41 |
| apachelogger | true | 22:41 |
| markit | REALLY? | 22:41 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: just exchange the login manager :P | 22:41 |
| shadeslayer | its a workaround :P | 22:41 |
| apachelogger | eh | 22:41 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: yeaj | 22:41 |
| apachelogger | markit: ^ | 22:41 |
| apachelogger | well | 22:41 |
| apachelogger | that will only work until 11.04 | 22:41 |
| shadeslayer | right | 22:41 |
| apachelogger | I think someone did integrate support for it | 22:41 |
| shadeslayer | that's no dm i think | 22:41 |
| markit | 11.04 is going to kill X-Window, so I will abandon kubuntu anyway | 22:41 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: no, someone did work on making KDM interoperate with gnome | 22:42 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 22:42 |
| apachelogger | no idea if the same applies vice versa | 22:42 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: iirc its not fixed in 4.6 | 22:42 |
| apachelogger | I certainly told the guy to look into that too ^^ | 22:42 |
| markit | in any case, the ltsp stuff is very important for schools...is so sad is not considered much in KDE | 22:42 |
| shadeslayer | well | 22:42 |
| apachelogger | markit: considering is not the problem, finding time and interest is | 22:42 |
| markit | now with "fat clients" support is even better | 22:42 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: its going to break again | 22:42 |
| shadeslayer | since KDM will move to plasma tech | 22:43 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: most certainly, canonical is redoing gdm :P | 22:43 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: lolwat | 22:43 |
| apachelogger | plasma does not influence the backend works of KDM | 22:43 |
| shadeslayer | theyre re-doing gdm too @_@ | 22:43 |
| apachelogger | well | 22:43 |
| apachelogger | I figure | 22:43 |
| apachelogger | since they redo everything | 22:43 |
| shadeslayer | just make your own DE for christs sake | 22:43 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 22:43 |
| apachelogger | they will also go after gdm at some point | 22:43 |
| apachelogger | as it uses a legacy gnome sessoin | 22:43 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 22:43 |
| apachelogger | exchanging that with unity tech would seem sensible | 22:44 |
| shadeslayer | markit: so basically just install gdm and you will be fine for now :P | 22:44 |
| markit | shadeslayer: I'll try tomorrow, thanks again | 22:44 |
| markit | bye | 22:44 |
| markit | and thanks for the work on KDE :) | 22:44 |
| shadeslayer | no problem :) | 22:44 |
| shadeslayer | ah well | 22:45 |
| shadeslayer | oh boi | 22:45 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: im sleeping | 22:45 |
| shadeslayer | its 4AM | 22:45 |
| shadeslayer | cya | 22:45 |
| apachelogger | I can see that | 22:45 |
| apachelogger | that is why you are typing | 22:45 |
| apachelogger | clearly you are sleeping | 22:45 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 22:45 |
| shadeslayer | s/im sleeping/im going to sleep | 22:46 |
| shadeslayer | night all | 22:46 |
| apachelogger | nini | 22:46 |
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