/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/01/02/#lubuntu.txt

renatovhey guys!02:33
renatovgood night02:33
renatovhey guys, I need a little help here, pls02:35
renatovhow can I replace openbox for fluxbox as my window manager within lxde?02:35
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phillw!bug107:21
phillwbug 107:21
ubot5Launchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107:21
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kosaidpo_hello guys13:53
kosaidpo_as a root while bootin i wanna find  the file from where i can turn off/on  pcmanfm13:54
kosaidpo_hello Yorvyk14:01
kosaidpo_please can u help14:01
kosaidpo_a time ago i used nitrogen to get transparence by killin pcmanfm and now i dont wanna use it anymoe but idk whixh file i can find that i've been searchin but no result :P14:02
szczurkosaidpo_, /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart14:11
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kosaidpo_szczur: thanks i must memorize it14:12
kosaidpo_thnks have good time14:12
* kosaidpo_ goin to have lunch14:12
szczur^^14:12
head_victimQuick question, what window type works for people with conky in Lubuntu.14:54
head_victimWhenever I click the desktop mine disappears14:54
leszekhi14:54
head_victimGday14:55
head_victimFor the record, own_window_type normal seems to work best with Lubuntu on the conky options15:01
Guest7336hi19:03
Guest7336i have a problem19:04
bioterror!ask | Guest733619:04
ubot5Guest7336: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)19:04
Guest7336My CD drive will not appear in pcmanfm, and then I looked into the fstab file and there I see no listing for my cd drive19:07
bioterroroh19:07
bioterroryou have cd inserted into the drive?19:07
Guest7336yes19:08
bioterrorhmmm19:08
Guest7336I think it is due to the fstab file19:08
bioterrornope19:09
bioterrormy wife's laptop has it neither19:10
YorvykGuest what version of pcmanfm are you using19:11
Guest73360.9.719:11
YorvykOh19:12
Guest7336I will show the entry for fstab?19:13
Guest7336# /etc/fstab: static file system information.19:13
Guest7336#19:13
Guest7336# Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique identifier19:13
Guest7336# for a device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name19:13
Guest7336# devices that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).19:13
Guest7336# / was on /dev/sda1 during installation19:13
Guest7336UUID=b6ff282e-dc4c-4cd8-881a-3cd59dad285f /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       119:13
Guest7336# swap was on /dev/sda5 during installation19:13
Guest7336UUID=022d22a4-d5b3-4b35-8e1c-7183e9055777 none            swap    sw              0       019:13
Guest7336/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       019:13
Guest7336so it looks to me19:13
YorvykGuest that's OK19:14
Guest7336really??19:14
bioterrorproblems with automount or something19:15
YorvykGuest7336, Next time you want to show a multi line file can you use ubuntu.pastebin.com :)19:15
bioterror!pastebin | Guest733619:15
ubot5Guest7336: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.19:15
bioterrorGuest7336, have you checked what dmesg says?19:15
* Yorvyk keeps forgetting about the bot19:16
bioterrorGuest7336, is your lubuntu installation from the lubuntu.iso or have you installed lubuntu from another distro?19:16
Guest7336this iso is from the Lubuntu page and I use Lubuntu 10.1019:18
stlsaintbioterror: hey can lubuntu server handle lxc?19:21
Guest7336how to mount the cd manually?19:22
bioterrorstlsaint, what?19:28
bioterrorahaa19:28
bioterroralways on rush they are19:28
stlsaintbioterror: i was told there is a lubuntu server release19:29
YorvykHmmm.19:29
stlsaintYorvyk: ohai19:30
bioterrorstlsaint, server is a server19:30
bioterrorit's almost same as minimal.iso19:30
bioterrorbut you can install lubuntu-desktop to server if you want19:30
stlsainti dont lubuntu-desktop :P19:31
stlsaintwant19:31
Yorvykstlsaint, Zentyal?19:31
bioterroryeah, zentyal comes with LXDE19:32
stlsaintYorvyk: is that the "new" ebox19:32
stlsaintno not looking for that19:32
bioterroryes19:32
YorvykRather nice system19:32
stlsaintlike there is a ubuntu server, is there a lubuntu server?19:32
phillwstlsaint: ubuntu server has no GUI, so there will not be a lubuntu version, just as there would not be an xubuntu / kubuntu version :)19:33
Yorvykubuntu server=lubuntu sever=xubuntu server= ubuntu - desktop19:33
stlsaintlol, aye that makes sense19:34
phillwstlsaint: there is a lubuntu-core version, that gives you a really cut down GUI if that is what you want.19:34
stlsaintok well lubuntu can handle lxc yes, since its based on ubuntu?19:35
phillwstlsaint: if it works on ubuntu, it will most likely work on lubuntu, some of us have done some crazy things to our lubuntu installs and it has never complained :)19:36
* Yorvyk now knows what lxc is :)19:38
stlsaintYorvyk: :D19:38
stlsaintYorvyk: now you see why ive been asking about serve stuff :D19:38
stlsaintYorvyk: i currently use openvz but its not working out with new server, so im going to lxc19:39
Yorvykstlsaint, interesting19:41
stlsaintvery19:42
YorvykMight have a play with that as I have an old sever that doesn't have HVT.19:43
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stlsaintYorvyk: yes, it works really well once its all setup19:46
stlsaintexcellent onresources19:46
stlsaintYorvyk: AND can be run on 32bit19:47
Yorvykstlsaint, it'll have to as it has twp19:47
stlsaintaye19:48
Yorvyktwo PIII xeons19:48
Yorvykdamn enter key :/19:48
stlsaintYorvyk: i was hosting website, music server, and multiple other vps all on less then 2GB ram19:49
stlsaintthat was with openvz, lxc has even tighter resource management19:49
stlsaintand new server has 32GB ram i can play with19:49
stlsaintbut i will have to learn lxc better as i am a novice to it19:50
YorvykIt looks straight forward https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LXC19:51
Yorvykphone again :(19:51
stlsainti think one is outdated as well, new lxc release is a bit easier but still same configurations required19:52
camilohello all19:57
camiloI have a little problem installing lubuntu19:58
Yorvykcamilo, go on19:58
camilowell19:58
camiloI downloaded the alternate install19:58
camiloand everything went well19:59
camiloexcept when it was installing the system19:59
camiloit stop19:59
camilojust freeze in the middle19:59
camilobut19:59
camilosometimes freezes downloading perl19:59
camiloor preparing other packages20:00
camiloand try xubuntu as well20:00
camiloand the same problem20:00
bioterrorcamilo, have you tried the normal minimal cd?20:01
camilowith the gui installer?20:01
YorvykIs the hardware OK?20:01
camiloThe gui installer freezes up before shows something20:02
camilonow I'm using debian20:02
camiloin the computer20:02
camilobut have many problems20:02
camiloI have managed to install debian20:03
camilobut flash and mp3 freeze my computer20:04
camiloso i would like to install lubuntu20:04
Yorvykcamilo, looks like hardware problems to me20:05
camilommm20:05
camilomaybe20:05
camiloit's and old pc20:05
camilo256 ram nvidia fx 5500 athlon xp20:06
YorvykHas it been cleaned out recently are the fans OK20:06
camiloseems right20:07
camilobecause it only crashes installing lubuntu or xubuntu , even archlinux20:07
camilobut with debian no problems installing it20:07
stlsaintYorvyk: from the BT overlord himself: http://blog.bodhizazen.net/linux/lxc-linux-containers/20:07
bioterrorhave you run memtest86+?20:07
bioterrorcamilo20:08
camilonop20:08
bioterrori think you should20:08
YorvykI thanks stlsaint I'll have a read20:08
Yorvykcamilo, I have had a lot of old hardware pass through my hands and the one thing I always do is it to bits clean the fans and reseat all th connectors and RAM20:11
YorvykIt's amazing how many poorly machines recover after that.20:12
camilowell I will check that out20:12
camilobut why debian can install?20:13
YorvykThat happens and I wish I knew why.  I have a machine that Ubuntu and it's derivatives won't install on but suse and mandriva do :(20:14
bioterrordifferent generic kernels20:15
bioterrorand stuff like that20:15
YorvykHmmmm20:15
YorvykIn the case of this machine it seems to be a problem with the Intel graphics20:17
Yorvykcamilo, what hard ware is it?20:18
camilolspci20:18
Yorvykcamilo, sirry you have said nVidia fx 5500020:18
camiloGeForce FX 5200]20:19
YorvykThe other thing it could be is a dodgy HD.20:19
YorvykYou sat debian is running OK20:20
camiloyep20:20
camilobut when I play audio files or flash media20:20
camilo it crashes20:21
camiloexcept in cli20:21
camiloI can play mp3 with mplayer in console20:21
camilobut in GUI freezes up20:21
YorvykDO you gave the correct driver for the video card20:22
camiloI don't think so20:22
camiloI was looking how to install it20:22
YorvykDon't really know with debian as I don't think they use the proprietary drivers20:23
camilohow can you do it with lubuntu?20:24
YorvykYou could try installing disk utility, if it isn't already installed and run the disk tests in there.20:24
YorvykLubuntu has a tool called additional drivers that looks for the correct driver for you20:24
camiloa cheese20:25
camilowhy I can not install lubuntu20:25
camiloratz20:25
YorvykI would run the memtest20:26
bioterrorthat's a good starting point20:27
Yorvykand Disk Utility tests and make sure the hardware is OK20:27
camilook20:28
Yorvykcamilo, with problems like yours they are very hard to diagnose on IRC as they could be any number of things so we have to remove each possibility20:30
camiloI understand20:30
YorvykI have spent a few days trying to get an old machine to work and I have quite a few sppare parts that I can swap out.20:31
YorvykWhat I would do is unplug it have a look inside and make sure there is no dust blocking things20:32
YorvykIf that's OK I would push all the connectors home or even unplug them and plug them back in.20:33
YorvykThat includes the RAM sticks.20:34
camilolike a medical exam20:34
YorvykYep20:35
camilook I will do that20:35
camiloI hope it works20:35
YorvykI've been repairing computers for 30 years and dust and loose connectors were the main culprits20:36
camilothanks20:37
Yorvykcamilo, good look and don't hesitate to call back we'll help all we can :)20:37
camiloallright thanks again!20:38
Yorvykcamilo, if you just want to chat we have #lubuntu-offtopic available for waffling about most anything non-technical20:38
bioterrorSun22:38 :: camilo (~tux@pc-247-167-164-190.cm.vtr.net) has left #lubuntu ("Saliendo")20:38
bioterror;)20:39
* Yorvyk must learn to type faster20:40
Yorvykbioterror, I hate computers that halt at random, load one distro and not another20:41
bioterrorusually that means hw failure20:42
bioterrorprobably overheating20:43
bioterrorbut good night20:43
bioterrorI'm off to bed20:43
Yorvyknn20:43
head_victimI think I broke something22:04
head_victimAll websites in chromium end up at the "aw snap" page and xchat keeps crashing.22:04
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head_victimtenach: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation is where the details are located for all Lubuntu related, hang on a tick I'll find you the most direct one for your enquiry22:29
head_victimhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/UpgradeToLubuntu22:29
head_victimtenach: ^ that's it22:29
jef91What problems head_victim?22:30
tenachhead_victim, Thanks a bunch :D22:30
head_victimjef91: none but if we are discussing Lubuntu related support it should be in here as the other channel is off topic and not logged.22:30
head_victimtenach: no worries22:31
jef91Any ideas on how to go about creating a custom alternative install cd?22:32
tenachhead_victim, I issued apt-get update after adding the ppa and am getting a 404 on packages.tar.gz22:33
tenachmaverick sources and main i386 are not working.22:34
tenacher hold on22:34
tenachI know the problem :322:34
* tenach headesks22:34
head_victimjef91: there are a few devs lurking around that may give you specific pointers but https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/AlternateInstall is the location of the details for using the Lubuntu one.22:34
head_victimjef91: I'd also recommend emailing the mailing list (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ContactUs) for specific help on that front jus tin case the right person isn't in here just at the moment.22:35
jef91kk22:35
jef91will do that :)22:35
head_victimjef91: I help out with documentation but unfortunately I have no idea when it comes to all the technical stuff required to build ISOs22:36
head_victimtenach: got it sorted?22:37
jef91Ahh kk22:37
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_kosaidpohello guys23:55
_kosaidpoidk how but i cant log in via my gui but i do with my ttty and via gui even i type a wong psw it says nethin any idea how to fix it23:55
_kosaidpoi tried to install gnome session but nethin wok23:56

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