[02:33] <renatov> hey guys!
[02:33] <renatov> good night
[02:35] <renatov> hey guys, I need a little help here, pls
[02:35] <renatov> how can I replace openbox for fluxbox as my window manager within lxde?
[07:21] <phillw> !bug1
[07:21] <phillw> bug 1
[13:53] <kosaidpo_> hello guys
[13:54] <kosaidpo_> as a root while bootin i wanna find  the file from where i can turn off/on  pcmanfm
[14:01] <kosaidpo_> hello Yorvyk
[14:01] <kosaidpo_> please can u help
[14:02] <kosaidpo_> a time ago i used nitrogen to get transparence by killin pcmanfm and now i dont wanna use it anymoe but idk whixh file i can find that i've been searchin but no result :P
[14:11] <szczur> kosaidpo_, /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart
[14:12] <kosaidpo_> szczur: thanks i must memorize it
[14:12] <kosaidpo_> thnks have good time
[14:12]  * kosaidpo_ goin to have lunch
[14:12] <szczur> ^^
[14:54] <head_victim> Quick question, what window type works for people with conky in Lubuntu.
[14:54] <head_victim> Whenever I click the desktop mine disappears
[14:54] <leszek> hi
[14:55] <head_victim> Gday
[15:01] <head_victim> For the record, own_window_type normal seems to work best with Lubuntu on the conky options
[19:03] <Guest7336> hi
[19:04] <Guest7336> i have a problem
[19:04] <bioterror> !ask | Guest7336
[19:07] <Guest7336> My CD drive will not appear in pcmanfm, and then I looked into the fstab file and there I see no listing for my cd drive
[19:07] <bioterror> oh
[19:07] <bioterror> you have cd inserted into the drive?
[19:08] <Guest7336> yes
[19:08] <bioterror> hmmm
[19:08] <Guest7336> I think it is due to the fstab file
[19:09] <bioterror> nope
[19:10] <bioterror> my wife's laptop has it neither
[19:11] <Yorvyk> Guest what version of pcmanfm are you using
[19:11] <Guest7336> 0.9.7
[19:12] <Yorvyk> Oh
[19:13] <Guest7336> I will show the entry for fstab?
[19:13] <Guest7336> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[19:13] <Guest7336> #
[19:13] <Guest7336> # Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique identifier
[19:13] <Guest7336> # for a device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name
[19:13] <Guest7336> # devices that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
[19:13] <Guest7336> # / was on /dev/sda1 during installation
[19:13] <Guest7336> UUID=b6ff282e-dc4c-4cd8-881a-3cd59dad285f /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[19:13] <Guest7336> # swap was on /dev/sda5 during installation
[19:13] <Guest7336> UUID=022d22a4-d5b3-4b35-8e1c-7183e9055777 none            swap    sw              0       0
[19:13] <Guest7336> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[19:13] <Guest7336> so it looks to me
[19:14] <Yorvyk> Guest that's OK
[19:14] <Guest7336> really??
[19:15] <bioterror> problems with automount or something
[19:15] <Yorvyk> Guest7336, Next time you want to show a multi line file can you use ubuntu.pastebin.com :)
[19:15] <bioterror> !pastebin | Guest7336
[19:15] <bioterror> Guest7336, have you checked what dmesg says?
[19:16]  * Yorvyk keeps forgetting about the bot
[19:16] <bioterror> Guest7336, is your lubuntu installation from the lubuntu.iso or have you installed lubuntu from another distro?
[19:18] <Guest7336> this iso is from the Lubuntu page and I use Lubuntu 10.10
[19:21] <stlsaint> bioterror: hey can lubuntu server handle lxc?
[19:22] <Guest7336> how to mount the cd manually?
[19:28] <bioterror> stlsaint, what?
[19:28] <bioterror> ahaa
[19:28] <bioterror> always on rush they are
[19:29] <stlsaint> bioterror: i was told there is a lubuntu server release
[19:29] <Yorvyk> Hmmm.
[19:30] <stlsaint> Yorvyk: ohai
[19:30] <bioterror> stlsaint, server is a server
[19:30] <bioterror> it's almost same as minimal.iso
[19:30] <bioterror> but you can install lubuntu-desktop to server if you want
[19:31] <stlsaint> i dont lubuntu-desktop :P
[19:31] <stlsaint> want
[19:31] <Yorvyk> stlsaint, Zentyal?
[19:32] <bioterror> yeah, zentyal comes with LXDE
[19:32] <stlsaint> Yorvyk: is that the "new" ebox
[19:32] <stlsaint> no not looking for that
[19:32] <bioterror> yes
[19:32] <Yorvyk> Rather nice system
[19:32] <stlsaint> like there is a ubuntu server, is there a lubuntu server?
[19:33] <phillw> stlsaint: ubuntu server has no GUI, so there will not be a lubuntu version, just as there would not be an xubuntu / kubuntu version :)
[19:33] <Yorvyk> ubuntu server=lubuntu sever=xubuntu server= ubuntu - desktop
[19:34] <stlsaint> lol, aye that makes sense
[19:34] <phillw> stlsaint: there is a lubuntu-core version, that gives you a really cut down GUI if that is what you want.
[19:35] <stlsaint> ok well lubuntu can handle lxc yes, since its based on ubuntu?
[19:36] <phillw> stlsaint: if it works on ubuntu, it will most likely work on lubuntu, some of us have done some crazy things to our lubuntu installs and it has never complained :)
[19:38]  * Yorvyk now knows what lxc is :)
[19:38] <stlsaint> Yorvyk: :D
[19:38] <stlsaint> Yorvyk: now you see why ive been asking about serve stuff :D
[19:39] <stlsaint> Yorvyk: i currently use openvz but its not working out with new server, so im going to lxc
[19:41] <Yorvyk> stlsaint, interesting
[19:42] <stlsaint> very
[19:43] <Yorvyk> Might have a play with that as I have an old sever that doesn't have HVT.
[19:46] <stlsaint> Yorvyk: yes, it works really well once its all setup
[19:46] <stlsaint> excellent onresources
[19:47] <stlsaint> Yorvyk: AND can be run on 32bit
[19:47] <Yorvyk> stlsaint, it'll have to as it has twp
[19:48] <stlsaint> aye
[19:48] <Yorvyk> two PIII xeons
[19:48] <Yorvyk> damn enter key :/
[19:49] <stlsaint> Yorvyk: i was hosting website, music server, and multiple other vps all on less then 2GB ram
[19:49] <stlsaint> that was with openvz, lxc has even tighter resource management
[19:49] <stlsaint> and new server has 32GB ram i can play with
[19:50] <stlsaint> but i will have to learn lxc better as i am a novice to it
[19:51] <Yorvyk> It looks straight forward https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LXC
[19:51] <Yorvyk> phone again :(
[19:52] <stlsaint> i think one is outdated as well, new lxc release is a bit easier but still same configurations required
[19:57] <camilo> hello all
[19:58] <camilo> I have a little problem installing lubuntu
[19:58] <Yorvyk> camilo, go on
[19:58] <camilo> well
[19:58] <camilo> I downloaded the alternate install
[19:59] <camilo> and everything went well
[19:59] <camilo> except when it was installing the system
[19:59] <camilo> it stop
[19:59] <camilo> just freeze in the middle
[19:59] <camilo> but
[19:59] <camilo> sometimes freezes downloading perl
[20:00] <camilo> or preparing other packages
[20:00] <camilo> and try xubuntu as well
[20:00] <camilo> and the same problem
[20:01] <bioterror> camilo, have you tried the normal minimal cd?
[20:01] <camilo> with the gui installer?
[20:01] <Yorvyk> Is the hardware OK?
[20:02] <camilo> The gui installer freezes up before shows something
[20:02] <camilo> now I'm using debian
[20:02] <camilo> in the computer
[20:02] <camilo> but have many problems
[20:03] <camilo> I have managed to install debian
[20:04] <camilo> but flash and mp3 freeze my computer
[20:04] <camilo> so i would like to install lubuntu
[20:05] <Yorvyk> camilo, looks like hardware problems to me
[20:05] <camilo> mmm
[20:05] <camilo> maybe
[20:05] <camilo> it's and old pc
[20:06] <camilo> 256 ram nvidia fx 5500 athlon xp
[20:06] <Yorvyk> Has it been cleaned out recently are the fans OK
[20:07] <camilo> seems right
[20:07] <camilo> because it only crashes installing lubuntu or xubuntu , even archlinux
[20:07] <camilo> but with debian no problems installing it
[20:07] <stlsaint> Yorvyk: from the BT overlord himself: http://blog.bodhizazen.net/linux/lxc-linux-containers/
[20:07] <bioterror> have you run memtest86+?
[20:08] <bioterror> camilo
[20:08] <camilo> nop
[20:08] <bioterror> i think you should
[20:08] <Yorvyk> I thanks stlsaint I'll have a read
[20:11] <Yorvyk> camilo, I have had a lot of old hardware pass through my hands and the one thing I always do is it to bits clean the fans and reseat all th connectors and RAM
[20:12] <Yorvyk> It's amazing how many poorly machines recover after that.
[20:12] <camilo> well I will check that out
[20:13] <camilo> but why debian can install?
[20:14] <Yorvyk> That happens and I wish I knew why.  I have a machine that Ubuntu and it's derivatives won't install on but suse and mandriva do :(
[20:15] <bioterror> different generic kernels
[20:15] <bioterror> and stuff like that
[20:15] <Yorvyk> Hmmmm
[20:17] <Yorvyk> In the case of this machine it seems to be a problem with the Intel graphics
[20:18] <Yorvyk> camilo, what hard ware is it?
[20:18] <camilo> lspci
[20:18] <Yorvyk> camilo, sirry you have said nVidia fx 55000
[20:19] <camilo> GeForce FX 5200]
[20:19] <Yorvyk> The other thing it could be is a dodgy HD.
[20:20] <Yorvyk> You sat debian is running OK
[20:20] <camilo> yep
[20:20] <camilo> but when I play audio files or flash media
[20:21] <camilo>  it crashes
[20:21] <camilo> except in cli
[20:21] <camilo> I can play mp3 with mplayer in console
[20:21] <camilo> but in GUI freezes up
[20:22] <Yorvyk> DO you gave the correct driver for the video card
[20:22] <camilo> I don't think so
[20:22] <camilo> I was looking how to install it
[20:23] <Yorvyk> Don't really know with debian as I don't think they use the proprietary drivers
[20:24] <camilo> how can you do it with lubuntu?
[20:24] <Yorvyk> You could try installing disk utility, if it isn't already installed and run the disk tests in there.
[20:24] <Yorvyk> Lubuntu has a tool called additional drivers that looks for the correct driver for you
[20:25] <camilo> a cheese
[20:25] <camilo> why I can not install lubuntu
[20:25] <camilo> ratz
[20:26] <Yorvyk> I would run the memtest
[20:27] <bioterror> that's a good starting point
[20:27] <Yorvyk> and Disk Utility tests and make sure the hardware is OK
[20:28] <camilo> ok
[20:30] <Yorvyk> camilo, with problems like yours they are very hard to diagnose on IRC as they could be any number of things so we have to remove each possibility
[20:30] <camilo> I understand
[20:31] <Yorvyk> I have spent a few days trying to get an old machine to work and I have quite a few sppare parts that I can swap out.
[20:32] <Yorvyk> What I would do is unplug it have a look inside and make sure there is no dust blocking things
[20:33] <Yorvyk> If that's OK I would push all the connectors home or even unplug them and plug them back in.
[20:34] <Yorvyk> That includes the RAM sticks.
[20:34] <camilo> like a medical exam
[20:35] <Yorvyk> Yep
[20:35] <camilo> ok I will do that
[20:35] <camilo> I hope it works
[20:36] <Yorvyk> I've been repairing computers for 30 years and dust and loose connectors were the main culprits
[20:37] <camilo> thanks
[20:37] <Yorvyk> camilo, good look and don't hesitate to call back we'll help all we can :)
[20:38] <camilo> allright thanks again!
[20:38] <Yorvyk> camilo, if you just want to chat we have #lubuntu-offtopic available for waffling about most anything non-technical
[20:38] <bioterror> Sun22:38 :: camilo (~tux@pc-247-167-164-190.cm.vtr.net) has left #lubuntu ("Saliendo")
[20:39] <bioterror> ;)
[20:40]  * Yorvyk must learn to type faster
[20:41] <Yorvyk> bioterror, I hate computers that halt at random, load one distro and not another
[20:42] <bioterror> usually that means hw failure
[20:43] <bioterror> probably overheating
[20:43] <bioterror> but good night
[20:43] <bioterror> I'm off to bed
[20:43] <Yorvyk> nn
[22:04] <head_victim> I think I broke something
[22:04] <head_victim> All websites in chromium end up at the "aw snap" page and xchat keeps crashing.
[22:29] <head_victim> tenach: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation is where the details are located for all Lubuntu related, hang on a tick I'll find you the most direct one for your enquiry
[22:29] <head_victim> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/UpgradeToLubuntu
[22:29] <head_victim> tenach: ^ that's it
[22:30] <jef91> What problems head_victim?
[22:30] <tenach> head_victim, Thanks a bunch :D
[22:30] <head_victim> jef91: none but if we are discussing Lubuntu related support it should be in here as the other channel is off topic and not logged.
[22:31] <head_victim> tenach: no worries
[22:32] <jef91> Any ideas on how to go about creating a custom alternative install cd?
[22:33] <tenach> head_victim, I issued apt-get update after adding the ppa and am getting a 404 on packages.tar.gz
[22:34] <tenach> maverick sources and main i386 are not working.
[22:34] <tenach> er hold on
[22:34] <tenach> I know the problem :3
[22:34]  * tenach headesks
[22:34] <head_victim> jef91: there are a few devs lurking around that may give you specific pointers but https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/AlternateInstall is the location of the details for using the Lubuntu one.
[22:35] <head_victim> jef91: I'd also recommend emailing the mailing list (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ContactUs) for specific help on that front jus tin case the right person isn't in here just at the moment.
[22:35] <jef91> kk
[22:35] <jef91> will do that :)
[22:36] <head_victim> jef91: I help out with documentation but unfortunately I have no idea when it comes to all the technical stuff required to build ISOs
[22:37] <head_victim> tenach: got it sorted?
[22:37] <jef91> Ahh kk
[23:55] <_kosaidpo> hello guys
[23:55] <_kosaidpo> idk how but i cant log in via my gui but i do with my ttty and via gui even i type a wong psw it says nethin any idea how to fix it
[23:56] <_kosaidpo> i tried to install gnome session but nethin wok