| cozziemoto | well the out of range has already been reported,,, something interesting though... if I install an nvidia 660gt I cant boot single monitor however with 7600gt I get out of range | 01:03 |
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| cozziemoto | 6600gt rather | 01:03 |
| cozziemoto | unfortunately no natty for me until this is fixed :( | 01:20 |
| DrHalan | Ahoi, any people already using natty here? | 01:27 |
| holstein | i have an install | 01:27 |
| holstein | i consider it a testing install | 01:27 |
| penguin42 | both these machines are | 01:27 |
| holstein | havent updated in a while | 01:27 |
| holstein | looks nice :) | 01:27 |
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| DrHalan | gonna try it in virtualbox :9 | 01:34 |
| holstein | i couldnt get 3d to pass through Vbox | 01:38 |
| holstein | i never have got the hang of that | 01:38 |
| tuxxman | hello, my brightness controls don't work on my laptop (running ubuntu 11.04) and its affecting my battery life dramatically because the brightness is always at max. | 02:21 |
| tuxxman | how do I fix this? | 02:21 |
| holstein | tuxxman: did you find a bug report? | 02:22 |
| tuxxman | no | 02:22 |
| scotty^ | Poppler 0.16 was released on December 27, 2010. Will this be included in Natty? | 02:27 |
| jMCg | scotty^: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebianImportFreeze was 10th of December, so I guess not. | 02:28 |
| jMCg | scotty^: see also: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule | 02:28 |
| scotty^ | Thanks. That's a shame. | 02:30 |
| scotty^ | jMCg: You meant 30th December, right? | 02:35 |
| scotty^ | hey billy, what's up? | 02:35 |
| scotty^ | Actually, according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebianImportFreeze there is still some hope. | 02:37 |
| jMCg | scotty^: It's half past 3, I'm fighting autoconf.. I'm getting blind. | 02:37 |
| scotty^ | :) | 02:37 |
| scotty^ | Natty FeatureFreeze is on February 24th. | 02:37 |
| jMCg | At least I did provide the correct links. | 02:38 |
| scotty^ | yeah, thanks, although I'd already seen the release schedule. I hoping a package maintainer might have been here in the channel. But thanks for being helpful though. | 02:39 |
| scotty^ | Happy new year to you. | 02:39 |
| jMCg | scotty^: all I ever get to hear here is: Open a ticket. Make a request.. etc.. | 02:39 |
| jMCg | It's the user-friendly way of saying: Patches welcome. | 02:40 |
| scotty^ | :) | 02:40 |
| scotty^ | yeah | 02:40 |
| jMCg | Which, in essence, too translates to: Fuck off, I'm busy reading comics. | 02:40 |
| scotty^ | I might try asking via email to ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com | 02:40 |
| scotty^ | lol | 02:40 |
| * jMCg *is* reading comics while watching compiles fail right now. | 02:40 | |
| jMCg | But I'm not a debian/ubuntu dev.. so, maybe that's just my interpretation. | 02:41 |
| IdleOne | !language | jMCg | 02:41 |
| ubottu | jMCg: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. | 02:41 |
| * scotty^ feels like some testing :) | 02:44 | |
| scotty^ | get lost | 02:44 |
| scotty^ | rack off | 02:44 |
| scotty^ | piss off | 02:44 |
| scotty^ | get stuffed | 02:44 |
| scotty^ | go jump | 02:44 |
| jMCg | ... | 02:45 |
| jMCg | While I am used to #solaris -- which is not for faint of heart, I do tend to respect the local channel rules.. | 02:46 |
| scotty^ | yeah, I know it wasn't intentional - you just made a simple and accidental mistake | 02:46 |
| scotty^ | You weren't booted from the channel and I would have been surprised an annoyed if you were | 02:47 |
| scotty^ | Mentioning Solaris, on the other hand...... | 02:48 |
| jMCg | No, what I meant is: After reading something like: 03:38:35 < ubottu> jMCg: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. --- It's generally a bad idea to start filling the channel with the exact opposite. | 02:48 |
| scotty^ | :) | 02:48 |
| scotty^ | yeah, I felt like a bit of testing though :) | 02:48 |
| jMCg | scotty^: IdleOne is not a bot. | 02:48 |
| scotty^ | yeah, I realised that. | 02:49 |
| scotty^ | Hopefully I don't get banned, although I could probably survive without access to this channel. Being banned from #ubuntu would be more of a problem. | 02:49 |
| jMCg | Now, on the topic of Solaris: | 02:50 |
| scotty^ | Evil system! :) | 02:50 |
| jMCg | You do realize that most of Linux' inspiration came from SunOS/Solaris? | 02:50 |
| scotty^ | Nah, just kidding. | 02:50 |
| scotty^ | It was a pity to see Suns demise | 02:51 |
| scotty^ | I actually applied for a job with them when I was younger, many years ago. | 02:51 |
| scotty^ | Yeah, I've read a bit about Linus and Minix and Unix and Solaris, although that was a while ago and I've forgotten some of it. | 02:52 |
| scotty^ | any luck getting your compiles to work with autoconf? | 02:54 |
| scotty^ | Not that I can help you with that. | 02:54 |
| IdleOne | jMCg: that is news to me | 02:59 |
| IdleOne | the bot thing that is | 03:00 |
| IdleOne | and the topic in this channel is Ubuntu+1 | 03:00 |
| IdleOne | heh, I read that as I am a bot | 03:02 |
| IdleOne | sorry | 03:02 |
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| Volkodav | anybody noticed firefox does not save added icons from customize list over ff restart | 05:04 |
| nit-wit | Volkodav, you mean the toolbar icons | 05:08 |
| Volkodav | yes | 05:08 |
| Volkodav | maybe just this theme strata reloaded | 05:09 |
| nit-wit | are you using a addon that is not working there was a FF update that threw out a couple of mine | 05:11 |
| Volkodav | Nothing special - print icon zoom etc | 05:12 |
| Volkodav | on restart the all gone | 05:12 |
| Volkodav | Sync annoying message too | 05:15 |
| * Volkodav back to Opera | 05:15 | |
| aksh1 | hi all,i like ti test multitouch feature in netbook which 10.10/11.04 will be best for the same | 05:22 |
| aksh1 | in which release multitouch has more support | 05:22 |
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| wersdaluv | upgrade-manager -d doesn't work for me. what's up? | 13:23 |
| wersdaluv | how do I upgrade from maverick? | 13:23 |
| Daekdroom | wersdaluv, in the "upgrades" tab in Software Channels, you have to set it so it'll show you any release and not only LTS ones | 13:24 |
| wersdaluv | Daekdroom, oh great. is that new? | 13:24 |
| Daekdroom | I think it's been there for quite a long while. | 13:24 |
| hype | not sure you can do this during devellopement cycle | 13:25 |
| hype | you can set to automatically get only LTZ releases, or the latest | 13:25 |
| hype | for Natty you'll need to install from live cd/usb | 13:25 |
| wersdaluv | Daekdroom, you meant, "Updates" tab then "pre-release updates" right? | 13:26 |
| wersdaluv | still can't see the distro upgrade button | 13:26 |
| hype | well, i was wrong :p | 13:26 |
| Daekdroom | wersdaluv, No. I meant at the bottom of that tab | 13:26 |
| yofel | didn't that only count for Lucid? (since it was LTS) | 13:27 |
| hype | you can update this way , just did a sudo update-manager -d and i get 11.04 pop up :) | 13:27 |
| yofel | update-manager -d should work | 13:27 |
| wersdaluv | Daekdroom, my setting has been "Normal releases" | 13:27 |
| Daekdroom | Odd. | 13:27 |
| wersdaluv | the other two are LTS only and "Never" | 13:27 |
| Daekdroom | 11.04 pops up normally in here if I start update-manager -d | 13:28 |
| yofel | wersdaluv: did you use upgrade-manager (doesn't exist) or update-manager -d ? | 13:28 |
| wersdaluv | yofel, upgrade-manager -d | 13:28 |
| yofel | then use the right one | 13:28 |
| wersdaluv | what right one? | 13:28 |
| yofel | wersdaluv: update-manager -d | 13:28 |
| yofel | wersdaluv: there is no upgrade-manager | 13:28 |
| wersdaluv | that's what I use | 13:28 |
| wersdaluv | yep | 13:29 |
| Daekdroom | yofel, should I uninstall all these PPAs before going 11.04? | 13:29 |
| yofel | wersdaluv: odd, sudo apt-get update and try again | 13:29 |
| yofel | Daekdroom: update-manager will disable them, so unless they have versions that conflict with ubuntu and update-manager can't resolve leave them be | 13:30 |
| yofel | (if you do you'll have to use ppa-purge) | 13:30 |
| Daekdroom | k | 13:30 |
| Daekdroom | system breakage, here I come! | 13:31 |
| wersdaluv | figured it out | 13:31 |
| wersdaluv | it wants to be plugged on AC | 13:31 |
| wersdaluv | wow | 13:32 |
| yofel | wersdaluv: then it should say so... | 13:32 |
| wersdaluv | I think it's fine, but system should at least tell me | 13:32 |
| wersdaluv | yofel, +1 | 13:32 |
| yofel | wersdaluv: ubuntu-bug update-manager | 13:32 |
| wersdaluv | yepyep | 13:32 |
| hype | i'm considering installing natty now :( | 13:34 |
| hype | but i know i'll get some pytho, breakages at some point so... | 13:34 |
| Daekdroom | 20 minutes to download the packages, 2 hours to install them. | 13:35 |
| penguin42 | yeh it's nuts | 13:35 |
| yofel | did they alredy add force-unsafe-io to the installer? | 13:35 |
| Daekdroom | I like the kind of breakage that doesn't actually stops you from using the system. It feels adventurous. | 13:35 |
| hype | weird, i did a lucid to maverick a few days ago it took exept 25/30 min download, 30 minutes ton install :p | 13:36 |
| hype | Daekdroom, you're on natty now? | 13:36 |
| Daekdroom | Nope. Going maverick --> Natty | 13:36 |
| hype | how do you like unity? | 13:36 |
| hype | never actually tried it | 13:36 |
| hype | okok | 13:36 |
| yofel | tried unity 2 weeks ago, didn't like it, has anything changed since then? (ok, I know it's incomplete) | 13:37 |
| hype | i personally just hope i'll be able to remove and keep my awn like it is :) | 13:37 |
| hype | remove unity* | 13:37 |
| wersdaluv | false alarm. looks like it only worked for me when I did it on the terminal and not on alt+F2 dialog (which is also weird) | 13:47 |
| * penguin42 has used KDE for about 2-3 days now - I might stay that way | 13:59 | |
| Daekdroom | Really? I can't bare KDE | 14:00 |
| penguin42 | Daekdroom: I'd tried it a few times in the past, and KDE4 I think has finally got to the point I can cope - there are a few bits I don't like | 14:01 |
| Daekdroom | I think it is too cluttered for my tastes. I'd have to try a minimalistic KDE distro if I really wanted to use it. | 14:02 |
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| BUGabundo | howdy | 14:40 |
| Daekdroom | should I let the system replace /etc/sudoers during the maverick-->natty upgrade? | 14:41 |
| penguin42 | did you edit it? | 14:41 |
| IdleOne | Daekdroom: yes if you left it default | 14:41 |
| Daekdroom | I don't remember editing it at all, sooo. | 14:42 |
| IdleOne | if you edited it, you may not want to | 14:42 |
| Daekdroom | *replaces it* | 14:42 |
| BUGabundo | is it a recent image? | 14:42 |
| BUGabundo | cause there was a bug in a recent sudo package | 14:42 |
| BUGabundo | that took you SUDO away | 14:42 |
| coz_ | BUGabundo, leave it at default | 14:42 |
| yofel | iirc they fixed that | 14:43 |
| coz_ | oh? | 14:43 |
| Daekdroom | well, I downloaded the upgrades now. | 14:43 |
| Daekdroom | So unless I'm using a badly outdated mirror.. | 14:43 |
| coz_ | BUGabundo, sorry wrong person | 14:43 |
| BUGabundo | np | 14:44 |
| BUGabundo | I'm still being hit by it on debian unstable | 14:44 |
| BUGabundo | but fixed in ubuntu | 14:44 |
| coz_ | I am still getting monitor out of range with current updates | 14:44 |
| coz_ | no way to get into the system unless I install an earlier daily build and dont update at all | 14:45 |
| yofel | what grapics card and when exactly do you get that? | 14:45 |
| yofel | if it started in december maybe it's this: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2010-December/032244.html | 14:49 |
| coz_ | yofel, me? nvidia 7600gt | 14:49 |
| coz_ | yofel, what's interesting is if I switche out the card to a 6600gt it boots fine but only if one monitor is plugged in ...go figure | 14:50 |
| yofel | .. | 14:51 |
| coz_ | I actually thought my 7600gt went bad on me the first time this happened :) | 14:51 |
| coz_ | so at this point I cannot install natty | 14:51 |
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| Daekdroom | Wow. Unity is way different. | 15:02 |
| Daekdroom | But it feels raw. | 15:02 |
| Daekdroom | Because it keeps opening a nautilus folder /usr/share/applications/ | 15:03 |
| penguin42 | Daekdroom: Yeh I can kind of see that as a vaguely neat way of selecting apps | 15:03 |
| IdleOne | that is a feature | 15:03 |
| Daekdroom | and the top bar menu and indicators aren't working or something | 15:03 |
| IdleOne | also a feature | 15:04 |
| IdleOne | heh | 15:04 |
| Daekdroom | You're kidding, right? >.> | 15:04 |
| IdleOne | Daekdroom: partially | 15:04 |
| IdleOne | not everything works right now | 15:04 |
| Daekdroom | Ah. | 15:04 |
| Daekdroom | I might as well switch back to classic gnome then | 15:05 |
| Daekdroom | compiz segfaulting with classic GNOME: checked | 15:10 |
| Daekdroom | I'll try deleting ~/.compiz/ before filing a report on it | 15:10 |
| BluesKaj | is FF4 the defauilt FF browser for 11.04? | 15:26 |
| Daekdroom | Yes | 15:26 |
| BluesKaj | ok, not liking it much so far ...looks like they're still working on the toolbars etc | 15:28 |
| Daekdroom | BluesKaj, I'd use classic GNOME if I were you. | 15:29 |
| yofel | I actually like FF4, took a while until I got used to the missing stausbar though | 15:30 |
| BluesKaj | Daekdroom, not a gnome user ..kde fan here | 15:30 |
| Daekdroom | Oh. | 15:30 |
| Daekdroom | I liked the new sound-indicator buttons! | 15:31 |
| BluesKaj | I have sounds turned off ...too annoying :) | 15:32 |
| BluesKaj | i'm old and grumpy , cutsy pie silliness gets under my skin | 15:33 |
| hype | just wondering, anyone on Natty? are there some really really annoying bugs for "i'm ok for testing/bug report but not to much breakage" ? :p | 15:46 |
| zniavre_ | no pain, no gain ? | 15:49 |
| hype | haha | 15:49 |
| hype | tu fais le malin, mais tu es sous natty? :> | 15:49 |
| hype | je sais que tu va répondre "oui" | 15:49 |
| zniavre_ | vbox using atm | 15:49 |
| hype | cheater | 15:49 |
| zniavre_ | :o) | 15:50 |
| hype | j'ai fait les backups | 15:50 |
| hype | j'ai imprimé mon grpated sur papier | 15:50 |
| hype | je met à jour l'iso depuis rsync ... | 15:50 |
| hype | ah tiens zniavre_ , ça te dit de tester un theme awn pour moi? | 15:51 |
| zniavre_ | j/ #ubuntu-fr-testing ? | 15:51 |
| hype | yep | 15:52 |
| IdleOne | hype: Please speak in English in this channel | 15:52 |
| hype | sure, we moved somewhere else :) | 15:53 |
| * penguin42 is seeing quite a lof of KDE debug in .xsession-errors along the lines of '(KIconLoader): Trying to remove an entry which is already invalid. This cche is likely corrupt. | 16:40 | |
| dupondje | https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html => the merges page was not used for Natty dev ? | 16:42 |
| yofel | penguin42: I have those icon errors too, not sure where they come from | 16:45 |
| penguin42 | yofel: You patched any bugs in the kde.bugzilla - what's the normal way of pushing stuff forward - just attach the patch and sit back? | 16:54 |
| yofel | patches for kde stuff should go to http://reviewboard.kde.org, for more details you'll have to go to #kubuntu-devel or #kde-devel though | 16:55 |
| BluesKaj | darn FF toolbar fonts aren't integrating well with kde settings I need for my large monitor | 16:56 |
| penguin42 | yofel: ooh right, thanks I'll have a look | 16:56 |
| edgy | Hi, how can I enable spelling checking in ooo in natty? | 17:22 |
| jMCg | Anyone else got broken UTF-8 characters in terminal? | 17:23 |
| penguin42 | which terminal? | 17:24 |
| edgy | jMCg: konsole is working properly here | 17:26 |
| jMCg | Nope.. console doesn't work either. Looks the same as Gnome Terminal. | 17:30 |
| jMCg | 16:47:50 < hype> j'ai imprim� mon grpated sur papier | 17:30 |
| jMCg | And the fonts look smudgy too :-/ | 17:31 |
| jMCg | Aah.. much better with fontsize 12. | 17:32 |
| CarlFK | "Dec 30th DebianImportFreeze, Feb 24th FeatureFreeze" http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/melt is v0.5.6. 0.6.0 was just released, will hit https://edge.launchpad.net/~sunab/+archive/kdenlive-svn either tonight or next Sun. | 18:35 |
| CarlFK | which date defines if the .6 ver can be included? | 18:35 |
| yofel | CarlFK: since we're past DIF, it won't be auto-synced from debian even if it's updated in unstable, but you can request a manual sync until FF | 18:42 |
| CarlFK | yofel: cool. thanks. | 18:43 |
| CarlFK | um.. what needs to be in place for the request? | 18:43 |
| CarlFK | I am guessing i need it packaged somewhere. is the PPA good enough? | 18:44 |
| yofel | I'm talking about debian currently since we just sync the package from there currently (they have 0.5.10 in experimental currently) | 18:44 |
| yofel | sync requests should follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess | 18:45 |
| CarlFK | so if I get debian exp to update to .6, then .. I'll read that :) | 18:45 |
| yofel | for more details you'll have to ask in #ubuntu-motu though, my knowledge ends here | 18:45 |
| CarlFK | yofel: thanks a bunch. this is the kind of pointers I was hoping for | 18:46 |
| CarlFK | "and the Debian package is in sid" is sid still correct? | 18:49 |
| yofel | sid would be unstable | 18:49 |
| Daekdroom | Sid is always the unstable version of Debian. | 18:52 |
| CarlFK | ah. thanks. was trying to figure out if I should resolve my confusion. | 18:54 |
| CarlFK | yofel: wee! melt .6 just hit sid - I was on my way to figure out who I needed to bribe to make that happen :) | 19:24 |
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| Daekdroom | It annoys me that my gnome terminal keeps starting at 80x22 instead of 80x24 | 19:54 |
| mongy | --geometry=80x24 | 19:56 |
| Daekdroom | mongy, the thing is, 80x24 should be default. | 19:58 |
| Daekdroom | and I can't seem to change that under gnome-terminal configs | 19:58 |
| mongy | gnome-terminal --geometry=80x24 then | 19:58 |
| mongy | update the shrortcuts for it.. | 19:59 |
| alkisg | On a default Natty installation, my /etc/hosts contains the following lines, isn't it a bug to have ::1 there twice? Does anyone else also have this? | 20:28 |
| alkisg | ::1localhost6natty | 20:28 |
| alkisg | ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback | 20:28 |
| rww | no, it's not a bug | 20:30 |
| rww | just means two different hostnames resolve to the same IP address. this is entirely unproblematic. | 20:30 |
| rww | well, four, since there are two on each line | 20:31 |
| alkisg | rww: I think I read a debian bug about this (for hostname and 127.0.0.1), let me find it... | 20:31 |
| alkisg | I.e. that it's allowed to have them on the same line, but not on separate lines | 20:31 |
| rww | you can have different lines with the same IP address in /etc/hosts | 20:32 |
| rww | heck, some people using one form of ad blocking end up with thousands of lines with the same IP address in /etc/hosts. | 20:32 |
| alkisg | Hmmm right I'm probably remembering a different problem then | 20:33 |
| alkisg | Thank you | 20:33 |
| bittin | somone wants a Diaspora invite? | 21:23 |
| CarlFK | we need invites? | 21:23 |
| Daekdroom | What is Diaspora? | 21:26 |
| virtuald | a security nightmare | 21:27 |
| CarlFK | it's like facebook but with an admitted less regard? for security | 21:29 |
| CarlFK | "we aren't security experts" or something | 21:29 |
| Daekdroom | Odd. It's nothing like the main page says | 21:32 |
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