[02:04] <sogepp> guys, what happen to openoffice.org? why does it 'change' into LibreOffice?
[02:07] <holstein> http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/communication-breakdown-10000030/german-openoffice-devs-defect-to-libreoffice-10020936/
[02:07] <holstein> i thought i was hearing it was more than that though
[02:07] <holstein> but the news says its just a fork
[02:09] <Red-Raven> hey.
[02:10] <Red-Raven> got a question involving DOS. can anyone help me? i know its not Linux related.
[02:11] <nit-wit> Red-Raven, doubt if I can answer it but go ahead
[02:12] <Red-Raven> it wont recognize any command using java. all i need it for is installing the Minecraft server nit-wit.
[02:13] <Red-Raven> and, yes, jave is currnet.
[02:13] <Red-Raven> java*
[02:14] <nit-wit> Red-Raven, did you ever install the ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:14] <Red-Raven> what?
[02:15] <nit-wit> Red-Raven, run that set with the sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras in the terminal
[02:15] <Red-Raven> ok what is it?
[02:15] <Red-Raven> nit-wit
[02:15] <nit-wit> Red-Raven, I belive java is in there
[02:16] <Red-Raven> no im havingthis problem in Win7.
[02:16] <nit-wit> Red-Raven, oh sorry can't help there
[02:16] <Red-Raven> oh.... ok.
[02:17] <Red-Raven> its alright
[02:17] <nit-wit> Red-Raven, I just logged on if you mentioned the W7 part,thanks for the condolences :)
[02:18] <Red-Raven> oh no i hadn't. i just htought DOS would mean it must be in windows.
[02:22] <Red-Raven> off to paruse the WWW for the solution then. cyw.
[02:34] <pointydrip> hello, I just moved apartments and changed from a static ip to auto DHCP, I entered sudo iptables --flush expecting it to connect automatically but it won't and none of the forums have helped, any ideas?
[02:37] <pointydrip> when i run ifconfig -a i get both network cards (autoeth0, autoeth1) but they do not show up in the network connections GUI
[02:37] <pointydrip> all that is displayed in the GUI is ifupdown(eth0)
[02:40] <nit-wit> pointydrip, cant you just right click the icon edit connections click on the wireless and change it to dhcp
[02:40] <nit-wit> *wireless icon
[02:40] <pointydrip> it's a wired connection
[02:41] <pointydrip> and yes, but usually it displays the network adapter such as auto eth0
[02:41] <nit-wit> pointydrip, okay thw wired icon
[02:43] <pointydrip> when I add a connection how do I direct it to eth0
[02:44] <nit-wit> pointydrip, what distro do you have
[02:44] <pointydrip> 10.04
[02:46] <nit-wit> pointydrip, if your plugged in you should be seeing the etho hook up from the edit. I have not had a problem in this area for awhile so I'm a bit slow but is it working, and do you have this set like this.http://imagebin.org/130578
[02:47] <nit-wit> http://imagebin.org/130578
[02:47] <holstein> pointydrip: you dont have a router?
[02:47] <holstein> i dont know how anyone can operate without a router ;)
[02:47] <nit-wit> holstein, good question:)
[02:48] <pointydrip> yes I have a router automatic DHCP
[02:48] <holstein> the router should be doing the same thing it was doing at the other place
[02:48] <holstein> as far as your buntu box is concerned
[02:48] <pointydrip> nit-wit: network conections looks the same
[02:48] <pointydrip> but there's no auto eth0
[02:48] <holstein> maybe you need to change the settings in the router
[02:48] <pointydrip> it doesnt show up
[02:49] <holstein> maybe you shook the PCI card loose in the move
[02:49] <pointydrip> no the router is fine if plug the same eth line into my exbox it runs right away
[02:49] <holstein> right
[02:50] <holstein> the xbox didnt care
[02:50] <holstein> its just taking what the router is sending
[02:50] <holstein> so should the buntu box
[02:50] <holstein> pointydrip: you got 2 NIC's?
[02:50] <holstein> have you tried them both?
[02:51] <pointydrip> exactly, I previously had the exbox running through my ubuntu machine because only one line was available
[02:51] <pointydrip> in the new place i ran seperate wires, when I reset iptables something happened
[02:51] <holstein> im unclear why you need to mess with iptables
[02:51] <holstein> i just plug it in
[02:52] <holstein> i have some static IP's running here
[02:52] <holstein> but for the most part
[02:52] <holstein> i just plug it in
[02:52] <holstein> maybe you can just undo some of the customization
[02:52] <holstein> and get a network connection
[02:52] <pointydrip> yes i ran iptables --flush
[02:52] <holstein> and work from there with whatever you need to do
[02:53] <pointydrip> now auto eth0 doesnt show up
[02:53] <pointydrip> ifconfig -a looks normal
[02:54] <pointydrip> is there a way to reinstall network devices?
[02:55] <thewrath> wat do you mean pointydrip ?
[02:55] <holstein> sorry, ive never needed to use iptables
[02:55] <holstein> i was just browsing the man page
[02:55] <pointydrip> when i open network connections where it used to say auto eth0 there is nothing
[02:55] <holstein> pointydrip: have you logged out?
[02:55] <pointydrip> but ifconfig says its there
[02:55] <holstein> and back in?
[02:56] <pointydrip> yes
[02:56] <holstein> hmmm
[02:56] <pointydrip> the problem arose when I deleted eth1, which is my second ethernet device
[02:57] <pointydrip> eth0 disapeared with it
[02:57] <holstein> why/how did you delete it?
[02:57] <holstein> maybe you could get a live CD out
[02:57] <holstein> run that
[02:57] <holstein> and look at the setup
[02:57] <pointydrip> yes I have that
[02:57] <holstein> and learn how to undo whatever has been done
[02:57] <pointydrip> ive never worked with the live cd like that...
[02:58] <thewrath> pastebin what is in your interfaces file
[02:58] <pointydrip> i've got synaptic open but I have no idea what to do
[02:59] <pointydrip> which package to install that is
[02:59] <holstein> id say close synaptic
[02:59] <holstein> the only package you should need to isntall would be whatever you uninstalled
[02:59] <holstein> IF you need some extra firmware to use your device
[02:59] <holstein> but i dought that is the case
[03:00] <holstein> probably just something simple that thewrath could help with after taking a look at your interfaces file
[03:00] <pointydrip> perhaps if I reinstall iptables?
[03:01] <thewrath> iptables is just a firewall like program
[03:01] <thewrath> that *should* not have anything to do with it
[03:02] <pointydrip> okay, network manager then?
[03:02] <JoeMaverickSett> perhaps, as thewrath suggested, "cat /etc/network/interfaces" in the terminal (without quotes)  and pastebin to http://paste.ubuntu.com ?
[03:02] <thewrath> lets see that and we will discuss that
[03:02] <pointydrip> okay ill try that...give me a minute im rebooting
[03:05] <ShootEmUp> Hello Everyone
[03:06] <thewrath> hey!
[03:06] <ShootEmUp> gotta love WALLCHAN
[03:07] <pointydrip> http://paste.ubuntu.com/549431/
[03:08] <ShootEmUp> okay....
[03:08] <thewrath> pointydrip, did you reboot you server?
[03:08] <thewrath> or computer
[03:08] <pointydrip> computer
[03:08] <thewrath> in network manager is eth0 there?
[03:08] <pointydrip> no
[03:08] <thewrath> can you add an interface to that link
[03:08] <thewrath> because it looks fin in that file
[03:08] <thewrath> *fine
[03:09] <pointydrip> not sure what you mean
[03:09] <thewrath> i am not famliar but is there a way you can add an interface to the network manager gui?
[03:10] <thewrath> if you use the cli it looks like the interface is installed and works
[03:10] <pointydrip> that is what I would like to do
[03:10] <johnny77> I have Ubuntu installed and on the top panel by default there was a logout button with my user name on it. It also could control my status in empathy. I removed this icon from the toolbar. Does anyone know the command to put it back on?
[03:10] <thewrath> what is empathy?
[03:11] <JoeMaverickSett> johnny77: right click panel > Add to panel > Indicator Applet Session
[03:11] <JoeMaverickSett> thewrath: the default messenger for ubuntu.
[03:11] <johnny77> JoeMaverickSett: Thank you.
[03:11] <JoeMaverickSett> johnny77: you're welcome. :)
[03:12] <thewrath> thanks JoeMaverickSett
[03:12] <johnny77> JoeMaverickSett: is there a way to get the logout menu without the username part?
[03:12] <JoeMaverickSett> johnny77: shutdown would do i think
[03:12] <JoeMaverickSett> johnny77: instead of Indicator Applet session add shutdown
[03:13] <pointydrip> any ideas on how to add auto eth0 to network connections?
[03:13] <johnny77> JoeMaverickSett: thank you again.
[03:13] <JoeMaverickSett> johnny77: :)
[03:15] <JoeMaverickSett> pointydrip: right click network icon on panel > edit connections > Wired tab > Add , might do?
[03:16] <pointydrip> no there's nothing to point a new connection to the network device, not that i know of
[03:16] <holstein> pointydrip: 21:56 < pointydrip> the problem arose when I deleted eth1, which is my second ethernet device
[03:16] <holstein> i think you should elaborate on that process
[03:17] <holstein> pointydrip: i assume you've plugged the network cable into both NIC's?
[03:18] <pointydrip> i clicked on eth1 in network connections, on the right hand side there is add, edit and delete buttons...I pressed delete. Rebooted. Ubuntu is supposed to detect it automatically again on reboot, but it didn't. and also auto  eth0 was gone
[03:19] <holstein> and you've gone through the 'add' process with no luck?
[03:19] <pointydrip> that is correct
[03:20] <pointydrip> but ubuntu should simply recognize auto eth0 and auto eth1
[03:20] <JoeMaverickSett> your ifconfig is normal, right? shows eth0 and stuff?
[03:20] <holstein> and no network connection plugging the cable in to either one
[03:20] <pointydrip> true
[03:21] <holstein> but you've asked network manager to not see it
[03:21] <holstein> hmmm
[03:21] <JoeMaverickSett> "sudo dhclinet3 eth0"? according to this problem; http://superuser.com/questions/44312/command-line-connect-to-wired-network-for-ubuntu
[03:22] <pointydrip> says dhclinet3 command not found
[03:23] <holstein> pointydrip: use tab complete
[03:23] <holstein> m@zagnut:~$ dhclient3
[03:23] <JoeMaverickSett> doh, it's dhclient3
[03:24] <JoeMaverickSett> sorry, i typed it myself. :|
[03:24] <holstein> close enough ;)
[03:24] <JoeMaverickSett> well =P
[03:24] <holstein> for us, not buntu
[03:24] <pointydrip> it was simply dhclient
[03:25] <holstein> they are different
[03:25] <holstein> theres both
[03:25] <holstein> probably want dhclient3
[03:28] <pointydrip> joemavericksett: I got the same error message as on your link
[03:34] <pointydrip> dhclient failed...
[03:36] <holstein> is that dhclient3 ?
[03:36] <holstein> what are the error messages?
[03:37] <pointydrip> No DHCPOFFERS received, No working lesases in persistent database - sleeping
[03:37] <pointydrip> which doesnt make sense because I can plug anything else into the router and it works
[03:38] <pointydrip> I just double checked the router everything is fine
[03:39] <holstein> well, if it were me, id probably try removing some variables
[03:39] <holstein> maybe get down to one nic
[03:39] <holstein> run a live CD
[03:40] <holstein> make sure that its working
[03:40] <holstein> then boot up the box
[03:40] <holstein> get that one nic online
[03:40] <holstein> and add the other one back in if needed
[03:40] <pointydrip> ...I'm trying to do that but my disk drive wont work
[03:40] <thewrath> wat do you mean your disk drive wont work
[03:40] <holstein> hmmm
[03:41] <pointydrip> It was working before the network problem
[03:41] <pointydrip> *wasn not
[03:41] <holstein> in that case, i would definetly spend some time rulling out a hardware issue
[03:41] <thewrath> define working
[03:41] <thewrath> does the O/S find it?
[03:41] <pointydrip> some times
[03:41] <pointydrip> probably connection issue
[03:41] <holstein> all of this could be a motherboard failing
[03:41] <JoeMaverickSett> or may be resolv.conf doesn't have the ip of the router/modem?
[03:41] <thewrath> is this a VM or no?
[03:42] <thewrath> Joeb454, it could be a resolv.conf but that would explain why eth0 was no tin the network config
[03:42] <pointydrip> no VM
[03:42] <JoeMaverickSett> thewrath: it's JoeMaverickSett :)
[03:42] <thewrath> it could be a hard drive controller
[03:42] <thewrath> sorry JoeMaverickSett
[03:42] <thewrath> :)
[03:42] <JoeMaverickSett> thewrath: say that to the other joe. =P
[03:43] <thewrath> lol
[03:44] <pointydrip> its not the motherboard falling its the cheap disk drive which is showing up under BIOS as some strange characters
[03:44] <JoeMaverickSett> thewrath: may be see the resolv.conf? /me has no solution as google isn't showing up for that issue. :D
[03:45]  * JoeMaverickSett depends on google-fu. ;D
[03:45] <thewrath> JoeMaverickSett, ?
[03:45] <JoeMaverickSett> thewrath: ah, never mind. :)
[03:46] <thewrath> :)
[03:51] <pointydrip> bingo
[03:51] <pointydrip> dchlient worked I was just an idiot
[03:52] <pointydrip> i ran dhclient eth0 then plugged into the other adapter and ran dhclient eth1
[03:52] <pointydrip> it just occurred to me that I had them backwards
[03:53] <pointydrip> thanks very much for the solution
[03:58] <pointydrip> okay so dhclient worked but it does not stick, any ideas on how to make it permanent?
[03:58] <pointydrip> (i have to run it at every boot)
[03:59] <holstein> if you got them switched
[04:00] <holstein> maybe you need eth1 added to interfaces
[04:01] <pointydrip> yes, I was thinking if I add a wired connection and included the mac adress, anyways thats enough troubleshooting for one day...at least I can function now Thanks again.
[09:15] <Montanabeliever> exit
[09:16] <hobgoblin> stage left ...
[12:06] <kuttans> samsung corby pro as a 3g usb modem gsm >> facing some problems
[12:10] <kuttans> how to do a modprobe for  3g usb mobile modem gsm
[12:11] <Guest31418> hi, what happens to the software i buy in the software center? does it stay on my ubuntu one account so i can reinstall it in the event i reinstall ubuntu? or do i have to buy it again?
[12:19] <MrAnthrope> There's software to buy?
[12:21] <MrAnthrope> Where?
[12:21] <Guest31418> yes. click the "get software" arrow to show all. you will see it.
[12:22] <JoeMaverickSett> MrAnthrope: yes, go to Ubuntu Software Center, Click Get Software, For Purchase.
[12:22] <Guest31418> see it?
[12:22] <MrAnthrope> Nope.
[12:23] <Guest31418> what happens to it? can i reinstall it again if i reinstall ubuntu? or do i have to buy it again?
[12:23] <MrAnthrope> I have provided by ubuntu, canonical partners, ubuntu tweak, ppa for wine, and google.
[12:23] <Guest31418> what version ubuntu you running?
[12:23] <MrAnthrope> 10.04
[12:23] <JoeMaverickSett> MrAnthrope: what is your Software Center version?
[12:24] <Guest31418> ok, i know it is in 10.10
[12:24] <yofel> it's not there, you need SC 3 for that, which is in maverick
[12:24] <MrAnthrope> 2.0.7
[12:24] <Guest31418> can anyone help with my little question?
[12:25] <jermza> hello?
[12:25] <Guest31418> hi
[12:25] <MrAnthrope> hi
[12:25] <jermza> Oh, there are ppl here. :)
[12:26] <Guest31418> we are people?
[12:26] <yofel> sure there are ;)
[12:26] <Guest31418> i thought we were really smart bots. :P
[12:26] <jermza> I'ma newbie, but have converted to Ubuntu recently, so excuse my ignorance.
[12:26] <MrAnthrope> Welcome to the club.
[12:26] <Guest31418> ask away
[12:26] <Timo_> "Don't ask to ask, just ask!"
[12:26] <Timo_> Howdy everyone
[12:27] <JoeMaverickSett> Guest31418: go to Help tab > Software Center Help > and to Topic "What if I paid for software then lost it?", i think it will answer your question. :)
[12:27] <jermza> I have some dumb questions, so don't laugh (too much).
[12:27] <Guest31418> thank you joe.
[12:27] <Timo_> jermza: no1 will laugh at you
[12:27] <Guest31418> i might...not really
[12:27] <jermza> I often see ppl saying "nautilus".... what is that?
[12:28] <JoeMaverickSett> !nautilus | jermza
[12:28] <ubot2> Factoid 'nautilus' not found
[12:28] <Guest31418> that is your file manager
[12:28] <JoeMaverickSett> :O
[12:28] <Guest31418> that is the window that shows you your files
[12:28] <jermza> Places?
[12:28] <Guest31418> ya,
[12:28] <svaksha> jermza: a gnome software package
[12:28] <jermza> Is it like saying "Open Windows Explorer"?
[12:29] <Guest31418> yes
[12:29] <Guest31418> that is what it is but for ubuntu
[12:29] <jermza> Okay, got it.
[12:29] <Guest31418> np.
[12:29] <JoeMaverickSett> jermza: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nautilus_(file_manager) :)
[12:29] <Guest31418> and joemavericksett that was what i needed. thanks again.
[12:30] <JoeMaverickSett> :)
[12:30] <jermza> I have Evolution added to my Startup Applications, which is great because it opens in front of me when Ubuntu boots up.  But how do I get Empathy and Gwibber to boot up on startup (without having them pop open in front of me)?
[12:30] <jermza> IE, How do I get them to start up in the background?
[12:31] <geirha> jermza: Not background, but minimized
[12:32] <geirha> When I do ''man empathy'' it shows an option. -h, --start-hidden Don't display the contact list or any other  dialogs on startup
[12:32] <Guest31418> add them to system ->  preferences ->startup
[12:32] <jermza> When Ubuntu boots up. Empathy and Gwibber don't start unless I manually make them.
[12:32] <geirha> So you probably just want to start empathy -h instead of just empathy
[12:32] <jermza> oh
[12:33] <jermza> "man empathy"?
[12:33] <geirha> Yes, if you open a terminal and run that, it will show you the manual for that program.
[12:34] <jermza> Yes, I see it in Terminal.
[12:34] <MrAnthrope> "Nautilus can display previews of files in their icons, be they text files, images, sound or video files via thumbnailers such as Totem. Audio files are previewed (played back over GStreamer) when the pointer is hovering over them." The first time I did that I thought I was just remembering the song in my head.
[12:34] <Guest31418> man could be the google for linux. love it
[12:35] <jermza> So. how do I add Empathy -h to Empathy's startup?
[12:35] <Guest31418> jermza  add them to system ->  preferences -> startup
[12:36] <geirha> jermza: empathy -h, not Empathy -h.  It's case sensitive.
[12:36] <MrAnthrope> add it to the "command" box.
[12:37] <jermza> I see.  Does Gwibber have a similar option?
[12:37] <geirha> jermza: It doesn't appear to have. But does it open a window when you run it? (I've never used it)
[12:38] <jermza> Yes.
[12:39] <Guest31418> try man gwibber
[12:39] <jermza> Logging out to test settings.  Will be back shortly. :)
[12:39] <Guest31418> good luck
[12:40] <geirha> I just started gwibber to see. In its preferences it has a "Start on login" option. That might start it without opening the window.
[12:41] <jermza> It worked. :)
[12:41] <jermza> Thanks for your help!
[12:42] <Guest31418> i hope buying software from the software center will increase and more software will be available to buy. IE starcraft2
[12:42] <Guest31418> no prob
[12:42] <jermza> Next question.
[12:42] <Guest31418> yes?
[12:42] <jermza> I am playing with themes.  What does "Ubuntu PPA" mean?
[12:43] <Guest31418> um..anyone else want to answer that one?
[12:43] <jermza> I'm at gnome-look
[12:43] <jermza> and am reading the installation instructions
[12:43] <MrAnthrope> Is this serious? --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/549523/
[12:44] <MrAnthrope> !PPA
[12:44] <ubot2> A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and should be used at your own risk.
[12:44] <Guest31418> arnt you on xchat now?
[12:45] <MrAnthrope> Yes.
[12:45] <MrAnthrope> Some games have their own personal package archvies so they can auto-update for you. for example.
[12:45] <MrAnthrope> archives*
[12:45] <MrAnthrope> linux native games. obviously.
[12:45] <yofel> not restricted to games, anyone with a launchpad account can have a PPA
[12:45] <MrAnthrope> Right.
[12:46] <Guest31418> MR did you install a theme in xchat from ubuntulook?
[12:46] <jermza> Okay, thanks.
[12:46] <jermza> Manual installation is probably better then.
[12:46] <MrAnthrope> I'm using the Elementary theme.
[12:46] <MrAnthrope> for gnome.
[12:46] <Guest31418> then..where did it come up with that error?
[12:47] <MrAnthrope> lol that's why I asked. I mean it works and looks fine so I don't think it's a problem.
[12:47] <Guest31418> prob not but it looks like it dropped you back to the shell instead of running xchat
[12:48] <geirha> Yeah, it's not serious. It just can't find some component in your current theme, so it says so, then uses some default instead.
[12:48] <MrAnthrope> Ah, ok.
[12:50] <Guest31418> 64 days left then good by iraq. i cant wait to come home
[12:50] <MrAnthrope> What are you doing there?
[12:50] <Guest31418> army.
[12:51] <MrAnthrope> ...wait iraq has the internet?! lol jk :)
[12:51] <Guest31418> ya, but they charge $88/month for 128kb not KB. rip off
[12:51] <MrAnthrope> wow.
[12:52] <Guest31418> need that speed to use skype to call my wife. cant use the slower speed
[12:52] <Guest31418> hmmm..
[12:53] <Guest31418> !IRAQ
[12:53] <ubot2> Factoid 'IRAQ' not found
[12:53] <Guest31418> lol
[12:53] <MrAnthrope> Any more questions, jermza?
[12:54] <jermza> I'm good, for now, thanks. :-)
[12:54] <jermza> You've been a great help.  I'll be back soon.
[12:54] <Guest31418> ok. going to eat supper. have fun yall
[13:51] <jermza> Back with another question, if you don't mind.
[13:53] <jermza> When my PC boots up, a message appears just before Ubunu's login screen appears. saying "Too many connections" (with some number right before it).
[13:53] <jermza> What is that?
[13:54] <Daniel0108> hi
[13:55] <Daniel0108> what do ya mean by a message, is it a popup or just some text?
[13:55] <jermza> After I turn on my machine, the usual black screen appears, with the odd text scrolling and then Ubuntu's login screen appears.
[13:57] <jermza> The last bit of text that appears is "Too many connections" and waits a few seconds.
[13:57] <jermza> Before loading Ubuntu's login screen.
[13:59] <jermza> Any idea what "too many connections" is?
[14:07] <IAmNotThatGuy> jermza, I saw a thread similar to that. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1635278
[14:07] <IAmNotThatGuy> to change the BIOS settings
[14:07] <IAmNotThatGuy> please check it
[17:31] <Red-Raven> hey i know this is off-topic but can anyone help me in opening a port in windows?
[17:32] <holstein> i remember xp used to prompt
[17:33] <Red-Raven> me?
[17:33] <holstein> i finally got to where i would just disable the firewall anyways
[17:33] <holstein> and use the one on the router
[17:33] <Red-Raven> um, ok.
[17:34] <holstein> im not sure what the process looks like in vista or win7
[17:34] <holstein> but i bet some google-fu would do you right
[17:34] <holstein> probably some kind of security center type thing still
[17:34] <Red-Raven> you have no idea how much ive used google and other forums. this was a last resort.
[17:35] <holstein> interesting
[17:35] <Red-Raven> whta is ?
[17:35] <holstein> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Open-a-port-in-Windows-Firewall
[17:36] <holstein> thats pretty much the way i was imagining it working
[17:36] <holstein> id be totally comfortable turning te firewall off though on my home network
[17:37] <holstein> unless you're putting it out in your DMZ for some reason
[17:39] <Red-Raven> minecraft wasn't one of the ports i could add.
[17:39] <holstein> ?
[17:39] <holstein> OH
[17:40] <holstein> theres a wizard or something...
[17:40] <holstein> minecraft should tell you the port you need
[17:40] <Red-Raven> its 25565
[17:41] <holstein> only if you aren't using the default (25565TCP and UDP)
[17:41] <holstein> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server
[17:41] <holstein> ^^ from there
[17:41] <holstein> SO you just put a hole at 25565
[17:41] <holstein> this says both TCP and UDP
[17:41] <holstein> you might need to make 2 entries then
[17:42] <holstein> in my router, i can select both
[17:42] <holstein> Red-Raven: really, this will be however you did it on your router
[17:42] <holstein> unless your just making a local server
[17:43] <Red-Raven> im using the linksys setting that you get by putting your IP in the browser
[17:43] <Red-Raven> so i should select both then?
[17:43] <holstein> both TCP and UDP ?
[17:44] <holstein> thats what that wiki implies to me
[17:44] <Red-Raven> ok. my ip ends in .1, so should i put .100?
[17:45] <holstein> well, the windows box probably wont ask for the IP
[17:45] <holstein> since you're doing this locally
[17:45] <Red-Raven> no im using the linksys settings
[17:45] <holstein> on that box
[17:45] <holstein> it should assume that you want to configure its firewall
[17:45] <holstein> on the router
[17:45] <Cheri703> Red-Raven: if it ends in .1 it'd be .001, .100 is different
[17:45] <holstein> you'll want to forward those ports to that box
[17:45] <Cheri703> if it needs 3 digits
[17:46] <holstein> you might want to set the windows box to a static IP
[17:46] <holstein> so that it doesnt get changed
[17:46] <holstein> OR see if there is a setting in the router to 'reserve' the current IP for that machine
[17:46] <Red-Raven> ok. im just going to try it now.
[17:46] <holstein> thats the IP you put in the router
[17:48] <Red-Raven> ok so it wouldn't let me do .001. had to do .100
[17:48] <holstein> well
[17:48] <holstein> is .100 the IP of the machine or not?
[17:49] <holstein> lets say on my network
[17:49] <Red-Raven> it ends in .1
[17:49] <holstein> the server is 192.168.2.123
[17:49] <holstein> and i want port 12345 forwarded
[17:49] <holstein> i go tot he router
[17:49] <holstein> and i forward port 12345 to the IP address 192.168.2.123
[17:50] <holstein> forwarding to ANY other port wont do
[17:50] <holstein> i mean, any other IP *
[17:51] <Red-Raven> ok so when someone joins my server they need im default gateway>
[17:51] <holstein> Red-Raven: go to the windows box
[17:51] <Red-Raven> ?*
[17:51] <holstein> and determine the IP address
[17:51] <holstein> i usually click start, go to run and run cmd
[17:51] <holstein> and enter ipconfig
[17:52] <Red-Raven> why is this so confusing....
[17:52] <holstein> because the less time i spend looking at a windows desktop, the better ;)
[17:52] <nit-wit> holstein, hehe
[17:52] <holstein> Red-Raven: its confusing because its potentially harmful
[17:52] <holstein> and you're not sure what the IP address is
[17:52] <Red-Raven> lol. so when ppl join my server, they need my default gateway?
[17:52] <holstein> no
[17:52] <Red-Raven> yes ive used ipconfig
[17:52] <holstein> they need your IP
[17:53] <Red-Raven> which ip? ipconfig bring up several.
[17:53] <holstein> Red-Raven: go to a web browser
[17:53] <Red-Raven> ok
[17:53] <holstein> and google 'whats my ip'
[17:53] <holstein> for example
[17:53] <holstein> i use dyndns to forward to my server
[17:53] <holstein> http://holstein.shacknet.nu
[17:53] <holstein> *which is quite boring
[17:54] <holstein> BUT my IP address is 71.90.232.189
[17:54] <holstein> SO http://71.90.232.189 should be the same
[17:54] <holstein> and it is :)
[17:54] <Red-Raven> ok i found a my ip site
[17:54] <holstein> you dont have to have a domain name pointing to your IP
[17:55] <holstein> you can just get taht IP
[17:55] <holstein> give that to whom-ever you want to join your server
[17:55] <holstein> SAY, i have a minecraft server
[17:55] <holstein> i would give you 71.90.232.189
[17:56] <holstein> you would use http://71.90.232.189:25565
[17:56] <holstein> to join
[17:56] <holstein> on my end
[17:56] <holstein> i would have my router look at that incoming connection
[17:56] <holstein> and forward that port 25565
[17:56] <holstein> to my server box at 192.168.2.123
[17:57] <Red-Raven> ok i think i get it. i gtg but if it doens't work ill come backk later. cya.
[17:58] <Red-Raven> thanks for the help.
[17:58] <holstein> good luck
[17:59] <wcdrotar> anyone know how to install Joomla?
[18:00] <holstein> wcdrotar: i did it once
[18:00] <wcdrotar> I got my lampstack all set up
[18:00] <wcdrotar> i think
[18:00] <holstein> however, i found...
[18:00] <holstein> http://www.turnkeylinux.org/joomla
[18:00] <holstein> and it was *so* much easier
[18:01] <wcdrotar> yeah, i downloaded that iso before
[18:01] <wcdrotar> ill give it a shot again since i tweaked with mysql and php since then
[18:01] <wcdrotar> trying running it in vmware
[18:01] <holstein> i just wanted to make it all happen from scratch once
[18:01] <holstein> to be able to say i did
[18:35] <nit-wit> holstein, just picked up a copy of John Malaughlin's To The One nice fusion, it is LM
[18:35] <nit-wit> *JM
[18:35] <holstein> nice
[18:35] <holstein> i havent heard that one yet
[18:42] <pigy> hi , i want to install lates ubuntu on mac power pc, is it possible
[18:45] <holstein> pigy: 10.10 ?
[18:46] <nit-wit> holstein, killer stuff Gary Husband and other great players, it is fusion my favorite in tis genre is Allan Holdworth though generally
[18:46] <nit-wit> *this
[18:46] <holstein> pigy: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/10.10/release/
[18:46] <holstein> you'll want the PPC one
[18:47] <holstein> nit-wit: :)
[18:51] <holstein> i suppose frisell kinda fits in that genre
[18:51] <holstein> thats about as deep as i got into it really
[18:51] <holstein> some dimeola here and there
[18:51] <holstein> with corea
[18:52] <holstein> i did a chick corea cover band concert that was pretty fun
[18:52] <holstein> working up some of those older rock-ish #'s
[18:52] <holstein> we kinda did an acoustic set and and electric one
[18:52] <holstein> the 'all-chick' band ;)
[18:55] <nit-wit> holstein, wow a chck corea copy band
[18:55] <nit-wit> *chick
[18:55] <nit-wit> holstein, one of the few groups I have seen play the music perfectly
[19:03] <wcdrotar> can't play it on ubuntu tho
[19:06] <holstein> nit-wit: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1172535/chickband/armando.ogg
[19:06] <holstein> ive been slack about mixing them down
[19:06] <holstein> thats fromt he acoustic set
[19:09] <holstein> wcdrotar: cant play what?
[19:13] <nit-wit> holstein, that you on the bass
[19:13] <holstein> yeah
[19:13] <holstein> bill gerhardt on piano
[19:13] <holstein> justin watt on drums
[19:13] <nit-wit> holstein, very nice that is well done man
[19:13] <holstein> we have a horn player on some other tracks
[19:13] <holstein> nit-wit: thanks
[19:14] <nit-wit> holstein, good drummer and piano Chicks music is not easy
[19:14] <holstein> yeah, it was a fun project
[19:14] <holstein> and that was one of the easier tunes
[19:18] <nit-wit> holstein, yeah a little latin hurts no one eh
[19:19] <nit-wit> holstein, triplet,  triplet,  triplet,
[19:19] <holstein> nothing wrong with triplets either ;)
[19:20] <starcraftman> pigy: you still there?
[19:26] <nit-wit> holstein, the theory is that the triplet without the middle played is one of the keys to swing and other genres and feels, to some extent but you are a good player so I'm preaching to the choir
[19:27] <holstein> yup
[19:27] <holstein> i like to spread them out a little further too
[19:27] <holstein> in the swing feel
[19:28] <holstein> almost like its based on 16th notes instead of triplets
[19:28] <holstein> trying to get that last not of the triplet as close as possible to the downbeat
[19:28] <holstein> without actually being the downbeat :)
[19:29] <nit-wit> holstein, I went to see my friend Ben Wolfe when he was in town about a year ago and he was using the push the beat walking style old scool keep the drummer on thier toes for sure
[19:29] <holstein> hehe
[19:29] <holstein> that drummer on that chick recording
[19:29] <holstein> justin watt
[19:29] <holstein> he can swing hard too
[19:29] <holstein> you get a guy like that playing along
[19:30] <holstein> and you can get away with anything
[19:36] <nit-wit> holstein, he sounded like he knows all 40 rudiments
[19:40] <pigy> starcraft im still here
[19:40] <starcraftman> pigy: hi so you want to install ubuntu, how far have you gotten?
[19:41] <pigy> i thnk is possible to install ubuntu 10 on my imac bulble powerpc.. but now not sure what dl to get
[19:41] <pigy> i dl ubuntu-10.10-desktop-powerpc.iso
[19:43] <pigy> and do i need to burn to cd and boot or can i install image directly from mounted image on my mac
[19:43] <starcraftman> pigy: looks like the right one, all the ports are listed here > http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/10.10/release/
[19:43] <starcraftman> pigy: burn it onto a cd yet?
[19:45] <pigy> from that site i dl ubuntu-10.10-desktop-powerpc.iso
[19:45] <pigy> about to burn.. if correct one
[19:46] <starcraftman> pigy: yup, that's the right one. That's the 32bit powerpc version of ubuntu.
[19:49] <pigy> k going to burn.. then ill come back.. tnks man
[19:50] <starcraftman> pigy: np :)
[19:51] <pigy> when dvd boots will it give option for dual boot install ?
[19:55] <starcraftman> pigy: have to go part way through the installation, I recommend starting a live session then getting a feel. After that laucnh the installer on the desktop.
[19:56] <starcraftman> When you get to partitioning you can manually partition or else let the automatic one work, usually fine.
[19:59] <snowake> hi all.  Two issues I have been having recently. (1) I am having an issue with my vfat partitions being duplicated in nautilus and places menu.  I learned my way around fstab and user permissions, but I am still confused about vfat partitions.  For my vfat partitions options i have "iocharset=utf8,umask=000"
[20:00] <holstein> snowake: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=238159
[20:00] <holstein> did you look at that?
[20:01] <snowake> checking it out now
[20:01] <snowake> ty
[20:07] <snowake> That solved another issue with permissions, and it is no longer duplicated in nautilus.  I assume when I restart X it will delete the duplicates in Places as well.  Thanks!  Now is there any reason why vfat does not understand user/s option?  I guess I can assume vfat is different and requires the group and user permissions to be set during mount specifically.
[20:07] <pigy> starcraft just booted into cd
[20:08] <pigy> ubuntu screens comming up
[20:08] <snowake> Also, has anyone else been having issues with repositories lately?  I get some strange errors (I believe from Ubuntu Tweak which is now removed), including one that states "Ignoring file 'apt-build' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has no filename extension"
[20:09] <snowake> I have only been able to find bug reports, but nothing of help to me specifically.
[20:10] <snowake> essentially, the majority of programs are no longer trusted.
[20:14] <pigy> starcraft... my boot screen is blank for like a minute is that normal
[20:32] <holstein> snowake: i would doube check your sources list
[20:33] <snowake> well it says it is a directory
[20:34] <holstein> says whats a dir?
[20:34] <snowake> sources.list.d so I assume ".d" is an extension for dir
[20:35] <holstein> i just know where the sources list is
[20:35] <holstein> you can get to it from in synaptic
[20:35] <holstein> OR the menu
[20:35] <holstein> system administration software sources
[20:35] <snowake> was trying to use gedit.  I can't find it actually in /etc
[20:37] <holstein> file a bug if you want
[20:37] <holstein> but if you've added PPA's
[20:37] <holstein> and you've been poking around in there
[20:37] <holstein> its probably not a bug
[20:37] <holstein> i usually just assume its my fault ;)
[20:37] <holstein> http://ubuntu.swerdna.org/ubufat32.html
[20:37] <holstein> snowake: you could read and see how current that information is
[20:38] <snowake> good idea checking now
[20:38] <snowake> Err http://ppa.launchpad.net maverick Release.gpg                       Bad header line  <-- As an eample
[20:38] <snowake> *example
[20:39] <snowake> I don't believe it is a bug.  I think it was Tweak ubuntu : /  That program appeared to change the PPAs etc and actually removed one I still needed.
[20:39] <snowake> Great link btw thanks
[20:40] <holstein> snowake: i would try this
[20:40] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1055420
[20:40] <holstein> find the relavant info in relation to maverick 10.10
[20:40] <holstein> maybe go in your sourecs
[20:41] <holstein> and temporarily "turn off" all the extra PPA's
[20:41] <holstein> get the main repos working
[20:41] <holstein> then go one at a time trouble shooting, and properly verifying the added ones
[20:41] <snowake> Good point.
[20:42] <holstein> its usually not as scary and serious as those errors make it sound :)
[20:43] <snowake> haha yeah usually I have ignored them and they have ended up ok after a while (temp issues with servers).  But its been a week.  I do see a very odd entry in "other software".  "File:/var/cache/apt-build/repository apt-build main"
[20:43] <snowake> This might be the issue with apt-build
[20:44] <nit-wit> holstein, is it a messed up /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:44] <snowake> Yes
[20:45] <snowake> I believe that is it.  Odd.  Ok, so I have only the four main sources for Ubuntu
[20:45] <snowake> this is the return
[20:45] <snowake> Ignoring file 'apt-build' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has no filename extensionCould not open file /var/lib/apt/lists
[20:45] <snowake> Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists <-- I went to the folder and this dir/file does not exist
[20:46] <snowake> however sources.list is there, as is the sources.list.d dir w/ the sources
[20:46] <nit-wit> snowake, can you paste bin this sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:46] <hobgoblin> no need for sudo :)
[20:46] <hobgoblin> and gksudo
[20:47] <snowake> :)
[20:47] <nit-wit> hobgoblin, is he in root or just use cat
[20:47] <snowake> got it let me get rid of commented sections
[20:47] <nlsthzn> hi, just tried installing Natty on my laptop, but no plymouth and also no login showing, can hear it logging in but cannot see anyhting on screen after bios?
[20:48] <holstein> nlsthzn: not bad id say
[20:48] <hobgoblin> nit-wit: then gedit should work - best not to use sudo - not always causing issues - but I think it did for me once
[20:48] <snowake> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu maverick restricted main deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu maverick restricted deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu maverick-updates restricted main deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu maverick-updates restricted deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu maverick universe deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu maverick universe deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu maverick-updates
[20:49] <nlsthzn> holstein, :) meaning I got farther than some? :)
[20:49] <snowake> there is no http line for updates (last entry"
[20:49] <holstein> snowake: i think it will be easier to read in pastebin
[20:49] <hobgoblin> snowake: please use pastebin
[20:49] <holstein> nlsthzn: might need nomodeset
[20:49] <holstein> whatever safe graphics is called thesse days
[20:50] <holstein> then you dont get unity though :/
[20:50] <hobgoblin> nlsthzn: boot with the livecd F6 and add nomodeset
[20:50] <nlsthzn> holstein, which defeats the purpose I am trying out natty... oh well... maybe I wait for beta
[20:50] <holstein> nlsthzn: might not work then either
[20:50] <snowake> Hobgoblin:  I have not used IRC in a loooong time so let me look at commands to refresh memory
[20:50] <holstein> depending on your hardware
[20:51] <holstein> you'll need a box that has god 3d support out of the box
[20:51] <holstein> good*
[20:51] <hobgoblin> snowake: paste sstuff into paste.ubuntu.com and then name and hit the paste button - give the new url here
[20:51] <holstein> to check out unity easily
[20:51] <nlsthzn> well, 10.10 unity worked on my netbook (slow) so I would hope my lappy with intel gfx would handle it
[20:51] <holstein> intel is usually pretty well supported
[20:52]  * holstein shrugs
[20:52] <hobgoblin> nlsthzn: it doesn;t work too good atm anyway - probably better to wait :)
[20:52] <holstein> its early :)
[20:52] <nlsthzn> k, thx guys... will curn my curiosity
[20:52] <nlsthzn> *curb
[20:52] <snowake> nlsthzn:  Did you clone your HD?  or was this live?
[20:53] <snowake> hobgoblin:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/549617/  (That is a really cool method!)
[20:53] <hobgoblin> snowake: the cooler method is to install pastebinit ...
[20:54] <snowake> I will definitely after this is sorted out.  Really cool tool.
[20:54] <nlsthzn> snowake, I installed from live disc
[20:55] <holstein> nlsthzn: if your getting the daily iso
[20:56] <holstein> maybe just try a different one
[20:56] <holstein> i think i used an alpha
[20:56] <nlsthzn> not sure which one I got... was a clean install of the alpha AFAIK... don't fret, will try it later...
[20:56] <nlsthzn> thanks and cheers... some SC2 time for me :D
[20:59] <hobgoblin> snowake: what is your issue anyway - or is it sorted now ?
[21:00] <snowake> primarily "Ignoring file 'apt-build' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has no filename extension"
[21:01] <snowake> Plus a litany of other errors
[21:01] <hobgoblin> all apt ones?
[21:02] <snowake> http://paste.ubuntu.com/549620/
[21:03] <snowake> Here's the printout of the results
[21:03] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-build/+bug/693715
[21:03] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 693715 in apt-build (Debian) (and 1 other project) "N: Ignoring file 'apt-build' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has no filename extension (affects: 2) (heat: 706)" [Unknown,Unknown]
[21:03] <snowake> Essentially it says using old files from last successful reload at Synaptic.  Then, when using Software Center it says "untrusted" for majority of programs
[21:04] <hobgoblin> snowake: do ls /etc/apt//sources.list.d/
[21:04] <holstein> looks like that one is a bug :)
[21:04] <holstein> not sure about the others
[21:05] <hobgoblin> ty holstein
[21:05] <snowake> Yep.  That it does.  It is named properly apt-build.list and I actually did this a while back when I was having issues b/c I have a backup file (don't remember doing this)/
[21:06] <snowake> Ty holstein and hobgoblin
[21:07] <snowake> I may do reinstall of Ubuntu since /home is a separate partition.  Just backup my settings in compiz.  this is the original install and I have since learned quitee a bit more.
[21:08] <snowake> found it
[21:08] <snowake> # deb file:/var/cache/apt-build/repository apt-build main
[21:08] <snowake> comment behind the only line in apt-build.list
[21:11] <snowake> also had a file named apt-build.
[21:13] <hobgoblin> all done then?
[21:13] <snowake> deleted apt-build file (no clue how it got there!) and uncommented the apt-build.list line and now the error is no more :)
[21:14] <hobgoblin> ok - so still the lzma ones?
[21:14] <snowake> Thanks all!!  Very helpful.  Didn't realize how much I missed IRC.
[21:14] <snowake> yes still lzma
[21:14] <snowake> I am going to solve that now.  Probably not a big issue
[21:19] <hobgoblin> 2 different sorts o fissues I found with it = lzma as a package and a rewrite of the sources list
[21:27] <snowake> hobgoblin:  I went to the sources generator site and redid it completely.  Then did the keys.  Not only is lzma an issue, but also bzip "Sub-process /bin/bzip2 returned an error code (2)"
[21:27] <snowake> going to try and find that
[21:27] <snowake> very odd stuff
[21:28] <hobgoblin> snowake: try changing servers
[21:30] <snowake> wil do
[21:47] <snowake> hobgoblin: Tried still same lzma and bzip2 errors.  tested for best server and used.  now I get "
[21:47] <snowake> brb
[21:47] <snowake> going to restart x
[21:47] <snowake> crazy issue with synaptic failing to load
[21:51] <BR> how everyone doing today?
[21:54] <holstein> eh, im installing XP to try and utilize some old windows only hardware
[21:54] <holstein> kind of a drag...
[21:54] <holstein> BR: and you?
[21:55] <BR> doin pretty good in this new year
[21:55] <snowake> Holstein:  Are you using a custom build of XP?
[21:55] <holstein> nope
[21:55] <holstein> just dusted off my disc last nite
[21:57] <holstein> im not going to hop through too many hoops to use a 10 year old operating system with some old hardware
[21:57] <holstein> but if it works it works
[21:58] <BR> I have to agree with you on that, how it going so far
[21:59] <snowake> yeah I was thinking of installing XP over win7 b/c I only need it for my crappy kodak printer and office 2007 (Wine is just not doing it)
[22:00] <BR> I think oo.o is better than office 07 any day
[22:01] <snowake> hobgoblin:  Massive issues.  no idea how changing server could have made so many errors.  You know of any ways to just restore all of the source files and folders to default to start fresh?
[22:01] <holstein> BR: about what i expected so far
[22:02] <BR> is that good or bad
[22:02] <holstein> its windows ;)
[22:02] <BR> lol I heard that
[22:03] <BR> snowake are you using ubuntu server
[22:04] <holstein> snowake: 10.04?
[22:04] <holstein> i have 10.04 server running
[22:05] <holstein> i could paste my sources file if thats helpful
[22:05] <holstein> prolly around on the net somewheres
[22:05] <BR> how is the ubuntu server never used it
[22:06] <holstein> BR: i like it
[22:07] <holstein> not doing too much with it really
[22:07] <BR> have you use the win server 03 before
[22:07] <holstein> i have a couple services on it
[22:07] <holstein> mumble, icecast, apache
[22:07] <hobgoblin> snowake: you can backup, delete all entries and create one from here http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[22:07] <holstein> i run irssi in screen on it
[22:07] <holstein> BR: nah
[22:08] <BR>  I used it in my network administration class need to try out ubuntu server to see the difference
[22:09] <holstein> BR: you can run the stuff on ubuntu
[22:09] <holstein> its all the same repos
[22:09] <holstein> which is kinda handy
[22:09] <BR> yeah it sounds like it
[22:09] <holstein> you dont need to actually go and install ubuntuserver
[22:09] <holstein> i wanted a command line only box around
[22:09] <BR> really how does that work
[22:10] <holstein> BR: you just install what you want :)
[22:10] <holstein> and run it
[22:10] <BR> may have to try that out
[22:10] <holstein> thats one of the cool things about buntu and FOSS
[22:10] <holstein> usually the only limitations are your hardware
[22:11] <BR> yeah you always learn something new when you use ubuntu
[22:12] <snowake> hobgoblin I did that before switching servers actually.  I don't know what you mean by irssi though.  I have checked the apt.conf, apt-build.conf, apt cache directories, and set "no cache =false" instead of true to see if it simply wasn't caching to the directories.  This is just crazy to me.
[22:13] <holstein> snowake: irssi was me :)
[22:13] <holstein> i was just listing that as something i do on my server
[22:13] <holstein> over ssh
[22:13] <snowake> ahh
[22:13] <snowake> yes : / that makes sense now
[22:15] <snowake> ha, hobgoblin I appreciate all the help man.  I think this is a rather odd bug b/c teh lzma and bzip2 seems to be referring to the packages file
[22:15] <snowake> going to look into this more and will get back to you
[22:15] <holstein> snowake: what release?
[22:16] <holstein> 10.04?
[22:16] <holstein> OH, 10.10...
[22:16] <holstein> server?
[22:18] <snowake> 10.10
[22:18] <snowake> I am very certain ubuntu tweak messed it up
[22:18] <holstein> ive heard that can happen
[22:19] <holstein> so far, ive had good luck with tweak
[22:19] <holstein> i like the PPA purge
[22:19] <snowake> Sub-process /usr/bin/lzma returned an error code (1) <-- I get this error code and a similar one for bzip2
[22:19] <snowake> U Tweak is definitely off my system.  Prefer to do things manually anyways
[22:20] <holstein> Sub-process /usr/bin/lzma returned an error code (1)
[22:20] <holstein> sorry...
[22:20] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9058745
[22:21] <holstein> hey, a generator http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[22:21] <holstein> interesting
[22:21] <holstein> snowake: if you do that, backup your old one
[22:21] <snowake> generator worked great for me when I was first installing ubuntu
[22:21] <holstein> so you can revert
[22:22] <snowake> thx backed it up b/fhand.  unfortunately lzma is for 7zip and chrome is dependent on it so it can't be removed.
[22:23] <snowake> holstein, just saw you msg about using it to purge ppas.  That is what caused this mess I believe.  As it was working until I did that
[22:23] <snowake> well last time I did it.  That's why I removed Tweak b/c it was fine b/f my last purge
[22:23] <snowake> same with bleach bit
[22:23] <snowake> sticking to computer janitor from now on
[22:27] <snowake> all right I am out.  hopefully this will simply resolve itself over time.  Thanks for all the help everyone
[22:44] <head_victim> I was wondering if it was even possible but I thought I'd ask anyway, is there a way you can add some includes to a whole wiki page and all it's sub-pages at once? I need to add a team header to a group and don't want to have to do it individually if at all possible.
[22:58] <BiDDo> hi all
[23:01] <BiDDo> anyone online
[23:18] <zkriesse> Ok, need to make a cronjob..and I know about crontab -e but I make the cron and how to I make it happen?
[23:31] <geirha> zkriesse: Not sure I understand what you're asking there.
[23:32] <yofel> zkriesse: erm, for a cron job just put an executable script into /etc/cron.hourly|daily|weekly|monthly/
[23:33] <yofel> well, anything executable
[23:33] <zkriesse> ok
[23:33] <geirha> And it musn't have an extension
[23:33] <zkriesse> meaning?
[23:34] <geirha> /etc/cron.daily/myscript.sh  will not be run, but /etc/cron.daily/myscript will
[23:34] <yofel> ah, didn't know that part
[23:34] <zkriesse> ah ok
[23:34] <zkriesse> thanks al
[23:34] <zkriesse> "all"
[23:34] <geirha> It's done that way to make it easy to disable a cron job I think.
[23:34] <geirha> e.g. just rename myscript to myscript.disabled
[23:35] <zkriesse> now say I wanted it to run at a specific time once a day
[23:35] <zkriesse> How would I do that...
[23:35] <zkriesse> I'm COMPLETELY a babe in the woods to this
[23:35] <geirha> You'd use crontab -e  or /etc/crontab
[23:35] <zkriesse> ok
[23:35] <geirha> man 5 crontab  explains the format
[23:36] <zkriesse> yeah I know it's * * * * * command
[23:36] <zkriesse> but other than that well, I"M LOST
[23:36] <geirha> Yeah, that would run command every minute
[23:37] <zkriesse> Ah ok
[23:37] <geirha> 10 3 * * * command   will run it every day at 3:10 am
[23:37] <zkriesse> Ok heres a question
[23:37] <zkriesse> Say I wanted to delete a file Test.txt off of my desktop in one hour...how would I make that happen
[23:39] <head_victim> Bash?
[23:39] <yofel> if it's only once, just run 'sleep 3600 && rm ~/Desktop/Test.txt' in the shell
[23:39] <zkriesse> Well I wanted to test cron to do it
[23:40] <geirha> cron can't.
[23:40] <geirha> You can tell cron to run a command at certain times, but you can't tell it to run it in 1 hour from now.
[23:41] <pigy> i booted into cd and then typed live blah=blah and at prompt
[23:41] <pigy> how to i try live cd
[23:41] <geirha> You can with at(1) though
[23:42] <geirha> pigy: I don't understand
[23:44] <pigy> trying to install on mac and booted into cd and got to cmd prompt and then typed in live command
[23:45] <geirha> pigy: You didn't get the CD menu when you booted it?
[23:45] <pigy> no menu just a prompt
[23:46] <geirha> Oh wait, that's in the older versions. In the newer one it's a bit different, but I've never seen a prompt like you're describing.
[23:46] <pigy> i downloaded iso for powerpc imac
[23:48] <pigy> ubuntu-10.10-desktop-powerpc.iso
[23:49] <geirha> Oh, so it's an old Mac, then?
[23:49] <pigy> 450 mzh.. yeahs its old
[23:50] <pigy> can new dl work for power pc
[23:50] <pigy> ?
[23:51] <geirha> dl?
[23:52] <pigy> i went to main site... but ready that dowload is only for intel based macs
[23:52] <pigy> mines not intel based