| xelister|DRUNK | could we set this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/664533 to Critical? isnt it critical?? Milions of users will have ubuntu NOT INSTALLABLE at first attempt - seems a totall fail | 00:02 |
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| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 664533 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Installer stuck on keyboard layout selection (affects: 7) (heat: 75)" [High,Confirmed] | 00:02 |
| paultag | xelister|DRUNK: it's not rendering it unusable. I won't change it, medium is correct. I share your troubles, but I disagree on severity | 00:03 |
| penguin42 | paultag: Not being able to install is pretty bad | 00:03 |
| paultag | penguin42: yes, but it looks like when you type the name out of the menu, right? | 00:03 |
| paultag | I glanced at it until I saw watson on there | 00:04 |
| paultag | cjwatson knows his stuff, and I trust his judgement :) | 00:04 |
| penguin42 | paultag: Not sure, I can't actually rememember the details | 00:04 |
| penguin42 | yeh | 00:04 |
| paultag | penguin42: I think it was just hardcoded QWERTY | 00:04 |
| paultag | it's a nasty bug, but not critical, I don't think | 00:05 |
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| RedSingularity | paultag: You here buddy? | 02:24 |
| RedSingularity | hggdh: You? | 02:27 |
| RedSingularity | Are there any bug controllers available at the moment? | 02:30 |
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| rusivi | Quick backporting v. SRU clarification question, AFAIK, SRU is for serious/security/many people affected issues. However, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports#request-new-packages notes that "We will reject any Backports requests for bugfixes if SRU has not been attempted." What happens if the bug is a minor, non-security bug that could be fixed by backporting a newer version of the software (from Natty/Maverick) in | 05:03 |
| rusivi | to Lucid? Seems wasteful to go through the SRU process for something that will get rejected... | 05:03 |
| RedSingularity | Anyone know the next HUG day? | 05:03 |
| micahg | rusivi: which package? | 05:12 |
| rusivi | micahg: just inquiring don't have an example in mind. Does it matter if core-application v. non-core? | 05:13 |
| micahg | rusivi: basically, if it's a bug fix that would be beneficial to users and the changeset is small, and SRU is the way to go, backports are usually for new functionality | 05:14 |
| rusivi | micahg: Ok, ty for clarifying. It seems, when in doubt, SRU first?! | 05:15 |
| micahg | rusivi: when in doubt, ask :) | 05:16 |
| rusivi | micahg: haha! | 05:16 |
| RedSingularity | micahg: This user thinks this is a real bug. I honestly dont think so. I think it is a feature request which is why I offered him ubuntu brainstorm. Maybe wishlist. What do you think? He took the liberty and marked it triaged as well. bug 695186 | 05:27 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 695186 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "do-release-upgrade manpage should be in -core with the binary (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/695186 | 05:27 |
| micahg | RedSingularity: it is a bug | 05:28 |
| micahg | RedSingularity: and the reporter | 05:28 |
| micahg | the reporter's a core-dev :P | 05:28 |
| RedSingularity | micahg: It seems like a feature request though. Moving the location of a man page. | 05:30 |
| micahg | RedSingularity: it's in the wrong package, that's a bug | 05:30 |
| RedSingularity | micahg: He is a dev for the update-manager-core package? | 05:34 |
| micahg | RedSingularity: no, he's an ubuntu core-dev | 05:34 |
| RedSingularity | micahg: Oh thats just dandy. Now I look like a moron :/ Eh wouldn't be the first time. | 05:37 |
| RedSingularity | micahg: How can I get to learn how a package really works without being a developer of it? I know you do a lot of work with firefox. How did you get to know it so well with debugging and all? | 05:42 |
| micahg | RedSingularity: you don't have to know how every package works, but if you want to know a specific package, you should look at the packaging and work with it | 05:42 |
| RedSingularity | micahg: You mean the source code? | 05:43 |
| micahg | yes | 05:43 |
| RedSingularity | micahg: thats just it though. I dont know programming language. | 05:44 |
| micahg | RedSingularity: so don't worry about then, triaging is still very helpful | 05:44 |
| RedSingularity | micahg: You know anyone off hand that works with update-manager? | 05:46 |
| micahg | RedSingularity: mvo is the main developer | 05:47 |
| micahg | RedSingularity: I learned by being mentored by the Firefox maintainer | 05:55 |
| RedSingularity | micahg: That makes sense. I guess I need to look into getting a mentor in the proper area. Thanks. :) | 05:58 |
| micahg | RedSingularity: well, for that type of mentorship I think there's a real commitment expected | 05:59 |
| RedSingularity | micahg: you mean there is a commitment in that package or in mentorship? | 06:13 |
| micahg | RedSingularity: I would think helping with the package | 06:14 |
| RedSingularity | micahg: Not that there is a problem with that but why so? | 06:15 |
| micahg | RedSingularity: well, it really depends what you want to work on, if it's something where a lot of people have knowledge, there'd probably be less expectation, but if it's one on one, it's different | 06:17 |
| RedSingularity | micahg: ah | 06:17 |
| micahg | RedSingularity: in any case, it'll be at the discretion of the person in question | 06:22 |
| RedSingularity | micahg: When being mentored what is the preferred way of communication during the session? IRC? | 06:23 |
| micahg | RedSingularity: depends on the person in question :) | 06:23 |
| somethinginteres | Am I correct in thinking that clicking on the currently playing song in the sound menu should bring the app playing the music into focus? | 07:18 |
| kklimonda | somethinginteres: you are wrong | 07:24 |
| kklimonda | somethinginteres: clicking on the currently playing song copies its data to the clipboard | 07:24 |
| kklimonda | which must be the most useless and the least discoverable feature I've seen in the last few years. | 07:25 |
| kklimonda | good morning :) | 07:25 |
| somethinginteres | kklimonda: OK thanks - thought it might have been a bug | 07:25 |
| paultag | RedSingularity: yo | 08:35 |
| paultag | RedSingularity: just heading to bed at some point, are you taken care of? | 08:36 |
| Elbrus | Can somebody please mark 695040 as triaged? Upstream won't fix it, but I confirm the problem. | 11:09 |
| Elbrus | bug 695040 that is. | 11:10 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 695040 in winff (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "The italian language GUI is impossible to reed in same voices (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/695040 | 11:10 |
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| xteejx | Hey guys | 14:39 |
| xteejx | Is anyone here that can help me with something and spare maybe 5-10 minutes please? It's completely off-topic but as most of you know I am usually involved with Ubuntu Bug Control and can't find any help elsewhere | 14:40 |
| BUGabundo | howdy | 14:40 |
| xteejx | Hey BUGabundo | 14:41 |
| xteejx | :) | 14:41 |
| xteejx | It's a script written in AutoIt (GPL v3 licenced) so I want to get it working and then if possible re-release it, since upstream has stagnated but it could be useful | 14:42 |
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| anoteng | is there any policy on expiring old needs-packaging bugs? There's a lot of bugs filed against projects that are dead upstream, have incompatible licenses, clearly defective etc. | 15:37 |
| yofel | well, there is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage#Needs%20Packaging%20Bugs - probably best to set them incomplete if they don't met the requirements and wait for LP to expire them | 15:43 |
| yofel | *meet | 15:43 |
| anoteng | yofel: thanks. | 15:48 |
| hjd | Hi. Anything more I should do to bug 685794 beyond setting it to fix released? I asked the reporter to test with the latest updates, which solved the problem. | 16:01 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 685794 in k3b (Ubuntu) "k3b crash during start (Segmentation fault (11)) (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/685794 | 16:01 |
| paultag | /window 25 | 16:04 |
| paultag | ohi shucks, sorry guys | 16:04 |
| yofel | hjd: Set it to fix released, the stacktrace does look like the solid related crash the patch fixes. | 16:05 |
| hjd | yofel: done. thanks. | 16:07 |
| gobbe | could someone help me with bug 693745. It seems that it's just configuration misatake on user, should i now just close this? | 17:11 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 693745 in ntp (Ubuntu) "wront time report for turkey (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/693745 | 17:11 |
| gobbe | i'm quite new with bug hunting, trying to contribute :) | 17:11 |
| * penguin42 looks | 17:12 | |
| gobbe | thanks | 17:13 |
| gobbe | i tried to reproduce problem with two machines, without luck :) | 17:13 |
| gobbe | it seems that users clock is too far away, and of course then ntp wont fix time without first making it more closer with ntpdate | 17:14 |
| penguin42 | gobbe: Has the timezone stuff in turkey changed - he's running a Hardy setup so I wonder if it's changed since then? | 17:14 |
| gobbe | i tried with hardy | 17:14 |
| gobbe | also | 17:14 |
| penguin42 | with the turkish timezone? | 17:14 |
| gobbe | yep | 17:14 |
| gobbe | i have several spare servers for testing purpose like this :) | 17:15 |
| gobbe | that's why i thought that i could contribute to ubuntu more =) | 17:15 |
| penguin42 | it does look like he has the clock out by an hour doesn't it | 17:16 |
| gobbe | yep | 17:16 |
| penguin42 | why is his ntptime failing though? | 17:16 |
| gobbe | firewall | 17:16 |
| penguin42 | or is it just because his time is too far out - greater than the maximum? | 17:16 |
| gobbe | i'v seen several cases where firewall blocks ntp :) | 17:16 |
| gobbe | ntpdate shouldnt fail | 17:16 |
| gobbe | like you see it cannot even connect | 17:17 |
| penguin42 | possible; but I'm not sure I've ever seen a firewall let everything else through but not ntp; I guess it's possible | 17:17 |
| gobbe | well we cannot say that everything else goes thru it? | 17:18 |
| penguin42 | true | 17:18 |
| gobbe | but anyway, i tried it with two different installations without luck | 17:18 |
| gobbe | ntpdate works atleast, ntp of course is not able to change time because hes current machine's time is too far away | 17:18 |
| penguin42 | he hasn't actually put an answer to any error from ntpdate to ntp.ubuntu.com Ig uess | 17:19 |
| gobbe | yep, havent | 17:20 |
| gobbe | so just wait? | 17:20 |
| penguin42 | could leave it with a 'ok well if you can try ntpdate to a server you can get to' or reset the time by hand, and leave it at incomplete; it'll timeout if he doesn't get around to it | 17:22 |
| gobbe | ok | 17:22 |
| gobbe | i'll do that | 17:22 |
| gobbe | just wanted some advice c's havent worked with ubuntu bugs ever before, even hangin around in irc channels and providing support since 2005 :) | 17:23 |
| penguin42 | yeh, I'm not the best person to ask for the right procedures | 17:23 |
| gobbe | :) | 17:30 |
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