[07:52] <pleia2> nhandler: heading to bed now, I'll touch base with you tomorrow regarding UWN so we can start getting things polished up, if you get ahead of me and identify Things Which Need Doing feel free to assign anything to me and I'll get to it
[18:06] <nhandler> pleia2: I just woke up, so I'm a bit behind. I'll copy the etherpad to the wiki and sort the stories. I'm not really sure what we should do for the Ubuntu Stats (as they have always been weekly). We could do them for the past week, but it would be hard to show the increase/decrease for the bug stats. Once we do that, all that is left is the Upcoming Meetings and Events section (which I think is just manually pulled from ...
[18:06] <nhandler> ... the fridge and classroom calendars) and Updates and Security (which will be quite long (but I think there might be a script in lp:uwn))
[18:42] <pleia2> morning!
[18:45] <nhandler> Hey pleia2
[18:45] <nhandler> I'm copying stories now
[18:46] <pleia2> cool, I'll grab a bowl of cereal and get settled in
[18:52] <nhandler> We should also (if we have time) try and find the Full Circle Magazines that have been released along with some more blog posts about podcasts (i.e. FCM podcast, community team member UStreamTV episodes, etc)
[18:52] <pleia2> I think I linked both FCMs in the eitherpad
[18:52] <pleia2> should see about podcasts though
[18:53] <pleia2> etherpad
[18:54] <nhandler> pleia2: Alright. I'm still going through it. I'm removing posts as I copy them
[18:58] <pleia2> ok, the only full FCM podcast was #14 (#13 was covered in the last UWN), they had a "side-pod" episode but I don't think we bother with that
[18:59] <pleia2> hmm, dholbach started some ustream things
[19:01] <nhandler> And they have those cloud ustream episodes too now by Ahmed
[19:07] <nhandler> Ooops, forgot about the General Community News section. That would probably explain why my Planet section was so large
[19:14] <nhandler> pleia2: You done with that blurb about dholbach's streams?
[19:14] <pleia2> yep
[19:14] <pleia2> thanks
[19:15] <pleia2> are there ustreams by ahmed, or just the screencasts?
[19:15]  * pleia2 admittedly zones out a bit when the discussion turns to "cloud"
[19:15] <nhandler> pleia2: I'm not sure. I'll search my blog history in a minute. Do you remember where we normally put the normal FCM posts?
[19:16] <pleia2> In Other News
[19:17] <nhandler> pleia2: Great. And I might have been imagining the cloud ustream and mixxed it up with http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ubuntu-translations-with-david-planella or the weekly cloud IRC meetings
[19:19] <pleia2> ok, I'll write about those ones
[19:23]  * nhandler will figure out something for the Nov/Dec Team Reports, but thinks it is better to get the nice and full October report published
[19:23] <nhandler> I'll start working on Upcoming Meetings and Events
[19:25] <pleia2> maybe toss in Nov reports too? I know it'll be long, but at least then we only have to worry about Dec for our next issue
[19:26] <nhandler> pleia2: Alright. I've also been thinking about different formats we can use to publish the report. It is only once each month and I think it is important to send them out (even though a lot of people might not read them or only briefly glance at them), but I do agree that they are a bit long (which is a good thing)
[19:27] <pleia2> I like including them in UWN, it's the only way a lot of teams get their stuff in
[19:28] <nhandler> pleia2: Agreed. I just know that some people wanted to get them removed or found them not useful (see the survey results), so I'm trying to come up with a better format
[19:29]  * pleia2 nods
[19:36] <nhandler> Something is weird with the ubuntu-audio folks on the 4th. They have 2 similar eetings of different durations. I'll try and poke someone
[19:42] <pleia2> ok, translations ustream and a couple cloud blurbs written
[19:49] <pleia2> I think the Stats just get dumped in covering the last week, probably not a whole lot we can do to cover multi-weeks
[19:50] <pleia2> this may become an issue when we start publishing by-weekly though, probably want to do a rewrite of whatever script pulls those
[19:54] <pleia2> unfortunately I think the Press and Blogosphere sections may need to be casualties this time, they can't really be done easily w/o a team collecting things throughout the week
[19:54] <nhandler> pleia2: The stats for the most part cover the past week. However, bugs show how the stats have increased or decreased since the last week (by looking back at the last UWN iirc). We might need to exclude the later part for this issue. As for the bi-weekly publishing, I'm not sure how the stats will work since I think the sites don't provide bi-weekly data like that
[19:54] <nhandler> pleia2: Agreed re: Press and Blogosphere
[19:55] <nhandler> pleia2: Can you look into the Security section? I think lp:uwn has a script
[19:55] <pleia2> sure
[20:02] <pleia2> hmm, it looks like a different script may be used than the one in lp, the format is very different
[20:03] <nhandler> pleia2: We can either use that script or we can try and hunt down the person who normally does the Security section (and then update the bzr branch)
[20:04] <pleia2> looks like the ones for the individual releases are ok
[20:09] <nhandler> I'm doing the November Team Reports now
[20:12] <pleia2> I think going beyond December for security is silly, so I'm just doing all of December, no November
[20:15] <nhandler> pleia2: That is fine
[20:17] <pleia2> ok, security stuff is in the etherpad, just needs to be copied to wiki
[20:17] <pleia2> probably want to make the heading: Updates and Security for 6.06, 8.04, 9.10, 10.04 and 10.10 in December
[20:17] <pleia2> (adding "in December")
[20:17] <pleia2> just so it's clear
[20:24] <nhandler> pleia2: Alright. I'm not editing the wiki page right now, so feel free to copy it. Otherwise, I'll do it after the team reports
[20:24] <pleia2> ok, copying
[20:29] <nhandler> pleia2: You almost done editing so I can copy the team reports?
[20:31] <pleia2> done
[20:31] <pleia2> just need to add in the cloud thingys somewhere from the etherpad
[20:31] <pleia2> not sure where they go :)
[20:32] <nhandler> pleia2: Put the announcement of the portal in the General Community News with the other announcements ;)
[20:32] <pleia2> ok, I'll get these done once you wrap up team reports
[20:33] <nhandler> pleia2: It still shows you are editing it
[20:33] <pleia2> it gave me the too-often-typical 500 error when I saved, so the lock is probably still on
[20:34] <pleia2> my changes took though, so you should be good to go
[20:35] <nhandler> pleia2: So I'm not the only one getting a million 500 errors today ;) elmo said it was just due to the old moin version. But I'm done adding the team reports
[20:36] <pleia2> yeah I get 500 at least a third of the time
[20:36] <nhandler> pleia2: I think we are almost done with the content. If you want to cover the stats, I can start on the Welcome and In this Issue sections
[20:37] <pleia2> where should I put the cloud screencasts thing?
[20:38] <nhandler> pleia2: I would put it in the planet section. That is where I put the other screencast blog post
[20:38] <pleia2> ok
[20:44] <pleia2> um, so, translations stats - do we do it for maverick?
[20:44] <pleia2> the last issue had for lucid, the one before that was maverick, the one before that was lucid
[20:46] <pleia2> I don't know how we get brainstorm status (no script in lp:uwn)
[20:46] <pleia2> stats
[20:46] <nhandler> Well, it is definitely not lucid. natty is now open for translations, so I would think that is what we would want. We could probably ask what would make the most sense in the translators irc channel
[20:47] <nhandler> pleia2: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/most_popular_this_week/ for brainstorm (just do it by hand)
[20:47] <pleia2> ok
[20:47] <pleia2> any thoughts on bug stats?
[20:48] <nhandler> pleia2: I'd just skip the +X over last week part and just show the number of Open, Critical, and Unconfirmed bugs
[20:49] <pleia2> where do I get them from?
[20:49] <nhandler> pleia2: http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[20:49] <pleia2> I assume on brainstorm I pick the ones with the highest votes (annoying that they dont sort them that way)
[20:49] <pleia2> thanks
[20:51] <nhandler> pleia2: I think popularity is based on views and other things (not just votes). So you could probably just do the first 5 on the page
[20:51] <nhandler> not sure though
[20:52] <pleia2> I'll just do that
[20:53] <pleia2> hrm, not seeing an unconfirmed stat
[20:56] <nhandler> pleia2: New Bugs
[20:57] <pleia2> hm wait
[20:57] <pleia2> I think someone has been updating the stats
[20:58] <pleia2> yep, Liraz today!
[20:58] <pleia2> 132011-01-02 04:12:3338958Lirazbrainstorm, bug stats, release changes, translation stats, usn
[20:58] <nhandler> Sorry for making you do extra work pleia2 and thanks Liraz
[20:58] <pleia2> who is liraz?
[20:59] <pleia2> they've been updating them weekly all along
[21:00] <nhandler> LirazSiri on IRC. ~liraz-siri on LP. Joined ~uwn over 2 years ago
[21:01] <nhandler> Next step is to start proofing for spelling, grammar, broken links, etc
[21:02] <nhandler> pleia2: Should we call this Issue 218 for the month of December 2010 ?
[21:03] <pleia2> yeah
[21:04] <nhandler> But I'm still not sure why we are shwoing lucid/maverick translation stats. We can probably leave it for now, but we should bring that up at this week's meeting
[21:05] <pleia2> yeah
[21:05] <nhandler> What should we do for the Brainstorm section title? We have more than 5
[21:05] <pleia2> drop the rest
[21:05] <pleia2> I think he put them in there as placeholders in case one got more popular before he had to update it again
[21:06] <IdleOne> evening folks
[21:06] <nhandler> Hi IdleOne
[21:06] <pleia2> (looking at the history, that has happened some
[21:06] <pleia2> IdleOne said he'd help proof read :)
[21:06] <pleia2> IdleOne: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue218
[21:06]  * nhandler hugs IdleOne 
[21:07] <nhandler> I'm removing some comments from the markup now. Looks like we need to go and do the 'Weekly Ubuntu Development Team Meetings' section still
[21:07] <pleia2> stats and translations have extra *stuff* in their sections, so I think we delete that too
[21:07] <pleia2> s/stats/bugs
[21:07] <IdleOne> anything specific you want me to read ?
[21:07] <nhandler> IdleOne: Not really. Mainly, look at spelling, grammar, broken links, etc.
[21:08] <IdleOne> okie dokie
[21:08] <nhandler> And if possible, run it through a real spell checker as well
[21:09] <pleia2> looking into dev team meetings now
[21:09] <nhandler> Thanks pleia2
[21:11] <nhandler> We also need to do the Glossary
[21:13] <nhandler> Or should we skip the Glossary and just leave the wiki link?
[21:14] <pleia2> I'd just leave the wiki link, we want shorter :)
[21:14] <pleia2> I'm just linking to December meetings, again going back to November seems like a waste of my brains
[21:14] <nhandler> pleia2: Sounds good
[21:21] <nhandler> Once pleia2 is done with the weekly developer meetings section and IdleOne is done proofing, we are basically done for today. However, we could get another person to proof it (to be safe) and start preparing the emails and other announcements that go out tomorrow
[21:26] <pleia2> ok, done - nhandler you editing?
[21:26] <nhandler> pleia2: Yeah, I'll be out in a minute
[21:32] <nhandler> pleia2: I'm out
[21:36] <pleia2> ok, updated (slightly different format than usual just because it was a lot of work to rewrite for a whole month)
[21:37] <pleia2> I'm going to run out and grab some lunch
[21:37] <nhandler> pleia2: Alright. We can chat later and figure out how we want to handle publishing tomorrow. Thanks a ton for all of your help
[21:43] <nhandler> pleia2: When we publish, we need to: 1) Send to ubuntu-news@ 2) Send notice to ubuntu-news-team@ 3) Post notice in 4 IRC channels 4) Post to Forum (and probably find a mod to sticky it) 5) Post to Fridge 6) Post on our personal blog to the planet 7) Use social media to announce it 8) Email loco-contacts@ 9) Email translators and 10) Update wiki
[21:45] <IdleOne> haha you really didn't need to put my name there
[21:45] <IdleOne> but thank you.
[21:45] <IdleOne> nhandler: asking another person to proof read might be a good idea just in case
[21:45] <IdleOne> proof read also*
[21:46] <nhandler> IdleOne: You did the work, you get the credit ;) And I'll see if I can find someone else
[21:47] <IdleOne> I only saw one little mistake (edited) did not check ALL the links
[21:47] <IdleOne> still going...
[21:47]  * nhandler hugs IdleOne 
[21:47] <nhandler> I'm going to take a break for a bit. I need to get some work done before school resumes tomorrow
[21:48] <IdleOne> you keep doing that and I might start liking it
[21:51] <CensoredBiscuit> meow
[21:52] <nhandler> Hey CensoredBiscuit
[21:52] <CensoredBiscuit> hey nhandler
[21:52] <nhandler> CensoredBiscuit: Up for proofing an issue of UWN?
[21:52] <CensoredBiscuit> sure
[21:53] <nhandler> CensoredBiscuit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue218
[21:54] <nhandler> CensoredBiscuit: If possible, try and check for broken links as well as the usual spelling and grammar
[21:54] <CensoredBiscuit> okay
[21:55] <CensoredBiscuit> I do like how I show up on channel and you put me to work nhandler
[21:55] <nhandler> :)
[21:56] <CensoredBiscuit> I've always been up for helping
[21:56] <pleia2> thanks nhandler :)
[21:56] <pleia2> welcome CensoredBiscuit
[21:57]  * pleia2 lunch & break
[21:57] <CensoredBiscuit> might aswell subscribe to the mailing lists and launchpad group
[22:04] <CensoredBiscuit> nhandler
[22:04] <CensoredBiscuit> if I find something wrong you want me to tell you or just fix it?
[22:05] <CensoredBiscuit> scrach that I cant edit
[22:05] <CensoredBiscuit> regardless
[22:07] <CensoredBiscuit> under "Results from the December 17th Americas Membership Board meeting" Jason DeRose's last name links to a wiki that doesnt exist his wiki is next to his name
[22:14] <CensoredBiscuit> nhandler, I read everything and that was the only real thing I found..
[22:17] <nhandler> CensoredBiscuit: Thanks. I fixed the CammelCase causing the link. You should be able to edit that wiki page as long as you have logged in
[22:18] <CensoredBiscuit> ahh I wasnt logged in :3
[22:18] <CensoredBiscuit> how hard is it
[22:18] <CensoredBiscuit> to obtain irc membership?
[22:19] <nhandler> CensoredBiscuit: Nobody has applied yet, but it shouldn't be any harder or easier than obtaining normal Ubuntu Membership from an RMB, just different (focusing on IRC contributions)
[22:20] <CensoredBiscuit> So I probabaly wouldnt be granted membership then xD nhandler
[22:21] <nhandler> CensoredBiscuit: Without knowing more about your contributions, I could not say.
[22:22] <CensoredBiscuit> other than proofreading that issue of UWN I have no real contributions other than IRC support
[22:23] <nhandler> CensoredBiscuit: Probably not (unless you have done a lot of great IRC support). But give it time. If you keep contributing a little here and there, you will be an Ubuntu Member in no time
[22:24] <CensoredBiscuit> I just need a team to keep me busy.. So i'm diversifing
[22:49] <IdleOne> pleia2 nhandler read/proofed poke me anytime you need me :)