[08:14] <MartijnVdS> morning everyone
[08:37] <colin_> How do i set up a cannon printer pixma mp250  on 10.10 nrm
[08:40] <MartijnVdS> just plug it in, I guess?
[10:08] <czajkowski> Aloha
[10:09] <daubers> Morning
[10:09] <daubers> Trying to figure out how to get the Christmas tree to the recycling place
[10:10] <daubers> considering just wrapping it in a duvet cover
[10:11] <popey> \o/ our council collects
[10:11] <daubers> Ours will take it in the green waste.... but it needs to be chopped up and I have no axer
[10:12] <czajkowski> we when used to put one up, the bin company would take them after Jan 7th for free with the rest of our stuff, which was handy.
[10:12] <czajkowski> morning
[10:14] <daubers> Hah! Another government .net fail https://swapathon.co.uk/
[10:14] <czajkowski> oh my
[10:14] <PhilT> TheGreatSwapathon.BusinessLogic.Model.Common.GetTotalSwaps() in C:\Development\TheGreatSwapathon.root\TheGreatSwapathon\TheGreatSwapathon.BusinessLogic\Model\Common.cs:26
[10:16] <daubers> duvet it is I think
[10:31] <daubers> ah ha!
[10:31] <daubers> Tree wrapped up ready for transport
[10:32] <czajkowski> heh
[11:34] <daubers> tree recycled
[11:37] <czajkowski> yay
[11:37] <czajkowski> sheet and all ?
[11:39] <daubers> No, sheet in the wash
[11:39] <bigcalm> Afternoon peoples
[11:40] <bigcalm> Thought I'd be novel and try the ubuntu software centre for installing OOo Database. That works but it doesn't include drivers to access mysql servers. No obvious way of it getting the relevent drivers though
[11:41] <MartijnVdS> Do those drivers exist at all?
[11:41] <MartijnVdS> I thought it just used JDBC/ODBC
[11:41] <bigcalm> You get the choice, but the driver for either is not installed
[11:42] <MartijnVdS> ♥ pgadmin3 ;)
[11:42] <bigcalm> The driver class 'com.mysql.jdbc.Drivedr' could not be loaded.
[11:42] <bigcalm> I don't get on well with postgress
[11:42] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: postgresql is a bit more strict than mysql.. which is a good thing imho :)
[11:43] <bigcalm> Anyway, this isn't a fighting match between dbs :)
[11:43]  * BigRedS turns up late and proclaims a liking of teh idea of having arbitrry perl in his sql
[11:48]  * popey wonders if anyone is around and fancies testing my minecraft server
[11:48]  * popey pokes bigcalm 
[11:48]  * bigcalm hugs popey
[11:49] <popey> 11:48:04  * popey wonders if anyone is around and fancies testing my minecraft server
[11:49] <bigcalm> Shoot :D
[11:49] <bigcalm> addy?
[11:49] <popey> one mo
[11:49] <popey> opening port
[11:49] <bigcalm> Hurry hurry!
[11:50] <bigcalm> Mmmm, no time for drinks
[11:50] <popey> popeydc.dyndns.org
[11:50] <bigcalm> I've regged a short domain name for use as a urlshortener thingy. Though I think I'll start using it for my dyndns type connections to machines
[11:50] <bigcalm> Ta
[11:51] <bigcalm> popey data centre?!
[11:51] <popey> hah
[11:51] <popey> dot com
[11:51] <bigcalm> Doh
[12:04] <directhex> MOO
[12:05] <bigcalm> Laggy at times
[12:06] <bigcalm> hi directhex
[12:15]  * popey spies someone selling an acer aspire revo 3610 with 4GB RAM!
[12:15] <dwatkins> Quick! ;)
[12:15] <directhex> rams! baaaa!
[12:33] <daubers> Ok, minecraft question... what the bananas is this block http://dl.dropbox.com/u/912336/Screenshot.png
[12:34] <MartijnVdS> cracj
[12:34] <MartijnVdS> crack*
[12:34] <daubers> Meaning?
[12:34] <KrisWillis> Coal?
[12:35] <daubers> I can't mine it :(
[12:35] <MartijnVdS> granite?
[12:35] <KrisWillis> Maybe you need a different tool?
[12:35]  * KrisWillis doesn't really know *that* much about it, his brother plays it
[12:36] <daubers> I tried an iron pick, didn't work
[12:36] <bigcalm> daubers: it is the bed rock
[12:36] <bigcalm> You can not mine it
[12:37] <popey> you're at the bottom of the map
[12:37] <popey> s/map/world
[12:37] <bigcalm> It's the lower limit of the world
[12:37] <daubers> Ah, boring!
[12:37] <bigcalm> I wonder if you were to mine upwards in the Nether, would you eventually reach the bedrock?
[12:39] <brobostigon> afternoonings all.
[12:42] <bigcalm> Morning
[12:42] <brobostigon> hi bigcalm
[13:16] <czajkowski> TheOpenSourcerer: you alive?
[13:22]  * directhex is blogging. i'm sure i'll offend more people with this one.
[13:22] <directhex> contains at least once goatse reference. no, don't google that if you're sweet and innocent.
[13:23] <czajkowski> not really ubuntu friendly alright
[13:32] <mattt> directhex: too late
[13:32]  * mattt washes his eyes with bleach
[13:34] <mattt> czajkowski: the rugby meetup sounds fun ... shame ireland are bound to lose tho :)
[13:35] <czajkowski> mattt: see now come along and watch the game and have some fun so
[13:36] <mattt> will try ... haven't been to a 6 nations game in years
[13:37] <czajkowski> well there is 3 months notice so no excuse to make plans
[13:46] <issyl0> Hello. :)
[13:46] <czajkowski> issyl0: hiya
[13:47] <issyl0> czajkowski: how're you?
[13:47] <czajkowski> grand thanks you ?
[13:47] <issyl0> Yeah, not bad.
[13:48] <issyl0> A bit cold, but that's this silly house of ours...
[13:48] <czajkowski> when are you back at college?
[13:49] <issyl0> czajkowski: Wednesday. :(
[13:49] <czajkowski> not so bad
[13:49] <issyl0> I think it's Wednesday... yeah, it is.
[13:50] <issyl0> It's better than directly Tuesday.
[13:50] <issyl0> I have a Computing exam on 13th Jan.
[13:50] <issyl0> And a French speaking exam on Wednesday at 11am.
[13:50] <issyl0> But hey ho. :)
[13:55] <MichealH> Hey all
[13:56] <czajkowski> issyl0: good luck with it
[13:56] <MichealH> Want there a meeting on the 30th that never happened?
[13:56] <MichealH> *Wasnt
[13:57] <issyl0> czajkowski: thanks :)
[13:58] <domjohnson> Hmm...just came across this thread >>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10307420&posted=1 >>> and I haven't got a clue - does anyone know what the problem is (not my thread...just couldn't think what it is...)
[13:58] <domjohnson> (unless the HDD is corrupt)
[13:58] <MichealH> Ah, Ubuntu Forums... I havent been there for weeks :L
[13:59] <MichealH> Let me aread it
[14:20] <MichealH> I know I shouldnt have resorted to this but: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10307492&postcount=8
[14:21] <jpds> ls: cannot access /boot/grub/grub.conf: No such file or directory
[14:22] <MichealH> Post edited
[14:22] <MichealH> Doh'
[14:23] <jpds> MichealH: You'll also need to tweak it for GRUB 1→2 changes.
[14:24] <MichealH> jpds: And what may they be?
[14:25] <jpds> MichealH: Like the menuentry things in grub.cfg.
[14:26]  * MichealH looks
[14:30]  * MichealH cant get enough of Comiz <3
[14:30] <MichealH> *Compiz
[14:32]  * MichealH aims to get at lease 300 more Support posts by 2012
[14:34] <Jora> hi
[14:34] <UFVisitor2> moo
[14:35] <Jora> moo
[14:35] <MichealH> UFVisitor2: Mewwww..... :P
[14:36]  * MichealH fails
[18:07] <czajkowski> hmm
[18:07] <MartijnVdS> czajkowski: hmm?
[18:07] <czajkowski> TheOpenSourcerer: oi go back and look at the stats for last couple of matches smart ass!
[18:12] <ipopey> Hmmm?
[18:13] <czajkowski> ipopey: Boo
[18:13] <ipopey> I shrank the stats recently to reduce load on the box
[18:13] <Azelphur> Hmm, python sort of question, anyone have any suggestions on how I'd check if a screen instance with the name blah was currently running?
[18:13] <czajkowski> Folks are signing up to the Rugby meet up in March :D yay http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/615/detail/
[18:14] <dutchie> Azelphur: subprocess.popen?
[18:14] <Azelphur> yea just checking screen -l was the only way I could think of too :p
[18:33] <MartijnVdS> you could talk to screens socket and talk its protocol
[18:33] <MartijnVdS> But that depends on screen not changing its protocol
[18:37] <tw3_> hey all
[18:37] <MartijnVdS> \o tw3_
[18:38] <tw3_> how's it going?
[18:51] <rhundin> hello it's my first time with IRC in general, any tips?
[18:51] <Azelphur> !hi rhundin
[18:52] <Azelphur> !hi | rhundin
[18:52] <Azelphur> hmm
[18:52] <Azelphur> rhundin: thing one, bots never do what you want them to do :D
[18:52] <nperry> 1hi
[18:52] <nperry> !hi
[18:52] <nperry> Your right Azelphur
[18:53] <brobostigon> evening all.
[18:53] <shauno> I wonder how nuts that exchange looks to someone who hasn't used IRC before ;)
[18:53] <Azelphur> haha yea, probably confusing
[18:55] <AlanBell> the hi factoid got removed because it was overused in some channels I think
[18:58] <shauno> rhundin: it's mostly common sense.  you'll spot this way of addressing messages to one person in particular by prefixing their nick.  the other big gotcha is not pasting multi-line chunks of text (there's better ways to do that, ask if you need them).  Other than that, have fun, and beware they are as crazy as they seem :)
[19:04] <niall> Hey, I just recently turned on Compiz and everything was as it should be until suddenly Nautilus lost its 'appearance' settings. Now it just looks like Win98 style grey rather than the ambiance theme. I looked in ~/ for settings related to it but found none. How would I recover the appearance without messing with Compiz?
[19:05] <shauno> I could be horribly out of date with this, but whenever I lost my appearance settings, it was because gnome-settings-daemon wasn't running.  so be worth checking that's alive
[19:07] <rhundin> shauno: thanks!
[19:07] <niall> shauno, I believe it is running just fine.
[19:08] <niall> The problem persists after a reboot.
[19:16] <teja> alangridge: hi....i am having a very serious problem...i am trying to install ubuntu 10.10 from a USB...but at the Username window gets stucks...
[19:18] <teja> hi....i am having a very serious problem...i am trying to install ubuntu 10.10 from a USB...but at the Username window gets stucks...
[19:29] <MartijnVdS> it gets stuck? how exactly?
[19:30] <DJones> MartijnVdS: He didn't hang around for somebody to help
[19:32] <MartijnVdS> DJones: ah
[19:32] <MartijnVdS> DJones: I've told irssi not to show joins/parts (because of the spamlevel)
[19:34] <DJones> Heh
[20:08] <shauno> no idea what diaspora is, but roll on Biff: The Musical
[20:09] <brobostigon> shauno: it is a openversion of facebook.
[20:14] <veronica> hi all
[20:15] <veronica> I have a proble with 10.10 32 bit on my macbook pro 13.3 (late 2009). Sound doesn't seem to work but when I plug in my headphones I can hear it!
[20:16] <veronica> it was working on snow leopard, but don't understand what's happening now, can anyone help?
[20:17] <DJones> veronica: Its a bit quiet here at the minute, but stay around, hopefully when it gets a bit busier somebody may be able to help
[20:17] <czajkowski> none of the mac users I know are online atm
[20:18] <czajkowski> veronica: drop a line to the mailing list might be more helpful that way you dont have to wait around and someone else may be able to help
[20:18] <czajkowski> veronica: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
[20:18] <DJones> The option would be to ask in #ubuntu which is the main support channel & is a lot busier
[20:19] <czajkowski> nods
[20:19] <DJones> The other option would be to ask in #ubuntu which is the main support channel & is a lot busier
[20:20] <Darael> Possibly a little late, but it doesn't seem anyone's brought it up so far, and I suspect there's a few as might be interested:  There's a thread on the mailing list where Diaspora* alpha invites are being handed out by some very nice people.
[20:34] <AlanBell> diaspora seems very popular on the list
[20:35] <AlanBell> I was on maco's diaspora server but I haven't tried it recently
[20:35] <directhex> diaspora is facebook for identi.ca users
[20:35] <czajkowski> aye can't see it ever taking off
[20:35] <czajkowski> but good luck to folks wanting it to
[20:35] <AlanBell> yeah, I can't quite see the point of it
[20:36] <AlanBell> elgg I understand, closed community facebook like system you host yourself
[20:40] <veronica> DJones, czajkowski, thanks
[20:44] <czajkowski> vxjonny: np
[20:44] <czajkowski> bah
[20:51] <daubers> Might have to rejoin facebook soon :(
[20:51]  * brobostigon now wishes he hadnt put his diaspora handle on the ML.
[20:52] <czajkowski> daubers: hah
[20:53] <brobostigon> sudden reuest rush.
[20:53] <brobostigon> request*
[20:53] <daubers> czajkowski: :( Might also need a copy of Jono's book
[20:53] <daubers> silly people and their silly ideas
[20:56] <czajkowski> daubers: pdf version online
[20:58] <daubers> Ooooh
[21:01] <AlanBell> so with this diaspora thing are people all running their own nodes?
[21:01] <Darael> AlanBell: Not necessarily, but they can and it'll make little-to-no difference.
[21:02] <zleap> hi all, happy new year
[21:03] <nperry> AlanBell: No using join diaspora
[21:04] <AlanBell> so there is some central server, isn't that what it is supposed to avoid?
[21:05] <AlanBell> and if I signed up on another node should I be able to sign in on the central thing or am I tied to the one I joined on?
[21:05] <brobostigon> AlanBell: i have my doubts,everyone will be able to run their own server though, but you are right, it is meant to be more decentralised.
[21:06] <mgdm> AlanBell: there's no central server, it's just that they provide one called joindiaspora.com
[21:06] <mgdm> AlanBell: along the same lines as jabber.org
[21:06] <bittin> thanks for the Diaspora invites :)
[21:12] <nperry> AlanBell: I don't think you can log in to any node
[21:13] <Darael> You can't.  But you can connect with anyone on another node as easily as you can connect to your own.  It's just like XMPP/jabber in that respect.
[21:13] <AlanBell> so you have to choose your node carefully then
[21:14] <shauno> as long as federation works, it shouldn't make a huge difference
[21:14] <Darael> AlanBell: Certainly.  But it's all encrypted underneath in any case (GPG, I believe).
[21:15] <AlanBell> so everyone is going to sign up on joindiaspora.com, then after they get to like it they might want to run their own node
[21:15] <AlanBell> I guess you can export all your stuff and import it again into your own node
[21:15] <Darael> That or it's being worked on.  Certainly it was on the roadmap last time I looked at it, which was a while ago.
[21:16] <AlanBell> does it have an API for plugins and apps?
[21:17] <nperry> AlanBell: it *should* do
[21:17] <AlanBell> and adverts/some kind of business model?
[21:17] <brobostigon> AlanBell: my thought was a gwibber plugin.
[21:18] <AlanBell> it isn't going to go anywhere until it is farmville compatible
[21:18] <shauno> showing your age there man.  it's cityville now :p
[21:18] <brobostigon> AlanBell: i have my doubts they will use flash to be honest, which farmville is , if memorerty serves.
[21:19] <brobostigon> memory*
[21:19] <AlanBell> never played any of them myself of course
[21:19] <brobostigon> me neither,
[21:19] <AlanBell> I did look at creating an app way way back
[21:20] <brobostigon> AlanBell: diaspora can give you that opportunity now, on an open and OSS platform, rather thanclosed and shut out.
[21:21] <DJones> AlanBell: An "App" ChickenVille?
[21:21] <shauno> looks like it's all ruby on rails.  always gives me the impression it's going to be a bit too heavy to cohabit on my vps
[21:21] <AlanBell> DJones: good idea :)
[21:21] <ali1234> also nobody will want to contribute to the code except hipsters
[21:21] <czajkowski> brobostigon: imo it's more closed than open, on fb I can share or not share my info with hundreds of people groups clubs on diasporia I can only share it out to few people on a single server
[21:21] <AlanBell> it was actually a little widget to show things submitted to astoryforbedtime.com
[21:22] <brobostigon> czajkowski: i agree, yes, i use facebook myself, so know,yes.
[21:23] <brobostigon> czajkowski: however i meant open, as in the opensource-ness of the underlying platform, not its capabilities.
[21:24] <nperry> shauno: Some one but a how to setup a node, followed it and seemed quick
[21:25] <bittin>  Somone wants a Diaspora invite?
[21:26] <AlanBell> and it doesn't support openID so I can't log on with launchpad
[21:27] <nperry> Its supposed to be Alpha, but I would say pre-pre-pre-alpha
[21:29] <AlanBell> it was a hopeless bag of nothing back in September
[21:29] <DJones> Wasn't Diaspora slated a few months back for having a lot security flaws
[21:29] <AlanBell> looked like something hacked together over a wet weekend
[21:30] <DJones> Hmmh, Yes, hopefully they've improved things since this http://www.thinq.co.uk/2010/9/17/alert-raised-over-diaspora-security/
[21:31] <shauno> well, they've sure got all the buzzwords ticked off :)
[21:48]  * Moult-remote is searching for a diaspora invite, any available? (sorry for butting in like this not like a regular)
[21:49] <AlanBell> hi Moult-remote, you are most welcome to butt in :)
[21:49] <AlanBell> diaspora certainly seems to be capturing the imagination of some today
[21:50] <jonathonf> Moult-remote: pm me an email address and i will send one
[21:50] <Moult-remote> thanks jonathonf  :)
[21:50] <Moult-remote> well if it takes off, i like to watch things grow
[21:50] <Moult-remote> i'm not much of a social network user though
[21:51] <Moult-remote> (got one from jonathonf (thanks!) so no need for others to offer invites)
[21:59] <bittin> yay :)
[22:17] <brobostigon> is it possible, on android, to silence certain email thread from gmail so you dont get any notification about them ?
[22:17] <czajkowski> the disporia one getting annoying is it :)
[22:17] <czajkowski> *diaspora
[22:17] <brobostigon> czajkowski: threads, plural. yes. :)
[22:18] <ali1234> you can say "filter messages like these", then say "mark as read" in the fitler
[22:18] <ali1234> they your phone wont go off when you get one
[22:19] <brobostigon> ali1234: so i could filter anything tht contains diaspora,and auto have it marked as read. ?
[22:19] <ali1234> yeah, or moved to a folder etc
[22:19] <brobostigon> ali1234: i wonder how to do it, let me look.
[22:19] <ali1234> you can also "skip the inbox"
[22:20] <ali1234> you literally just select the thread then more actions-> filter messages like these
[22:20] <ali1234> you can then edit the filter however you want
[22:21] <brobostigon> ali1234: thank you,
[22:21] <ali1234> it might not guess the right filter for what you want, there is that "test search" button which is very handy
[22:22] <ali1234> i recommend setting up labels and using filters to move stuff into the labels rather than just mark as unread
[22:22] <brobostigon> ali1234: is this in the standere android gmail client ?
[22:22] <ali1234> no, this is in the web client
[22:22] <ali1234> i never used it on a phone
[22:22] <ali1234> an android phone that is
[22:23] <ali1234> it works great on symbian
[22:23] <ali1234> not so good on maemo
[22:23] <brobostigon> ali1234: the issue i have is as czajkowski said, android giving me notifications about diaspora from he mailing list.
[22:23] <czajkowski> brobostigon: sign out of gmail so ?
[22:23] <ali1234> yes. if you make those emails skip the inbox, android won't notify you about them
[22:24] <ali1234> or if you mark them as read, it wont notify you
[22:24] <czajkowski> or else mute your phone or turn off notifications?
[22:24] <czajkowski> you do have a few options
[22:24] <ali1234> at least i assume that is how it works, that's how my phone works
[22:24] <brobostigon> czajkowski: turn off notificiations, i like that idea.
[22:24] <ali1234> signing out of gmail/muting all notifications is not an option
[22:24]  * brobostigon scp's czajkowski a drink.
[22:26] <brobostigon> notification sound, temp off.
[22:26] <ali1234> symbian has this great feature, you can tell it during which hours to check your email
[22:27] <ali1234> so now i don't get woken up at 3am by spam messages
[22:28]  * czajkowski points MUTE out to people
[22:28] <brobostigon> ali1234: android 2.2.1 has aquiet hoursfeature, to silent notify, anything but alarms for example. very similer idea.
[22:28] <czajkowski> amazing feature :p
[22:28] <ali1234> no, manually muting it is crap, because you either forget to mute it, or worse, you forget to unmute it, and then people wonder why you are not answering your phone
[22:31] <ali1234> then again, on the N900 you can enable silent mode just by putting it face down on a surface
[22:31] <czajkowski> handy
[22:31] <brobostigon> ali1234: onthe n900, when i first heard about that feature, i liked it.
[22:32] <mattt> wewt
[22:33]  * mattt is trying out diaspora.cmo
[22:33] <mattt> looks a bit basic at the minute tho
[22:33] <ali1234> if you took all the good things that actually work from each smartphone and threw away the rest, you might have enough to build a really good phone
[22:40] <ali1234> nokia's hardware, symbian's bulletproof phone dialer + syncing, maemo's integrated contacts (telepathy), android's overall system integration, apple's app store and web browser... this would be the perfect phone. thoughts?
[22:42] <brobostigon> ali1234: meamo's apt thingie is better, it is apt. and use normal debian-type repo's.
[22:42] <ali1234> lol, have you actually used it?
[22:42] <ali1234> it is unbearably slow
[22:43] <ali1234> i mean it literally takes half an hour to install a package using it
[22:43] <brobostigon> ali1234: yes, on my n800, but i simply find it a better way of adding apps,
[22:43] <ali1234> and you can only install them one at a time
[22:43] <ali1234> the n900 one is MUCH slower than the n800 one, because there is way more software for n900
[22:43] <ali1234> but when i said apple's app store, i meant "an app store with as much stuff in it as apple's" - not necessarily thew interface
[22:43] <brobostigon> ali1234: something apt-like,like that would be perfect.
[22:44] <ali1234> i honestly don't care how it works behind the scenes :)
[22:44] <ali1234> as long as it works
[22:45] <brobostigon> ali1234: i do, because if it works, it works properly underneath, aswell as onto, and is foolproff ontop aswellas below.
[22:45] <ali1234> well, the n900 pretty much proves that doesn't work well in practice...
[22:45] <ali1234> because of bad design decisions, they took a well-working system and made it much worse, with just a few trivial mistakes
[22:46] <brobostigon> ali1234: ok, put the n800's apt, then. not n900's.
[22:46] <brobostigon> russell howards good news,bbc3, brb,
[22:46] <ali1234> if you loaded all the apple app store apps into a apt repository, and added that repository to any mobile phone that used apt, it would take DAYS to updates the sources
[22:47] <ali1234> but w/e, we can add " a good package manager" to the list... not than any existing phone has one... maybe meego+rpm will work better
[23:15] <brobostigon> LOL, this chap on buzzcocks, looks like the guy from men in black, is whose head you show off, it grows back.
[23:16] <brobostigon> shoot off*
[23:39] <brobostigon> nos da, sleep well all.