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XpistosHey everybody00:11
Xpistoscyberanger: are you around?00:14
chibihogoshinohey Xpistos00:18
Hex00010What's up00:35
chibihogoshinoits dead in here right now00:40
Hex00010Yeah i kinda figured lol00:40
Xpistoshey chibihogoshino00:46
chibihogoshinohey00:46
chibihogoshinowhats up00:46
DrPepperSo is everyone here from TN?00:50
=== DrPepper is now known as Hex00010
chibihogoshinoyeah00:51
chibihogoshinoi think so00:51
Hex00010Thats cool    Did you guys like that nice  storm last night?00:52
Hex00010Duno if you guys got it  but it hit us really hard near memphis00:52
chibihogoshinoin knox we had rain and a bit of thunder. but thats about it..00:53
chibihogoshinoit was a nice change of pace00:53
Hex00010Yeah just wish it was as warm as it was last night today00:54
chibihogoshinoyeah00:54
chibihogoshinowarm is nice00:54
chibihogoshinocold is bad00:54
Hex00010I've learned to adapt to it i live  in  OR for a  couple years which is always cold  then moved to Utah , SL  and it was hot every day   around 95+ degrees then moved to TN  so its like in the middle of warm and cold to me00:55
chibihogoshinoi wouldnt mind 90 right now00:55
Hex00010I know its  cold as hell out side right now00:56
chibihogoshinonot as bad a ohio tho..00:58
chibihogoshinoi dont miss the winters there00:58
Hex00010ha , I've never been to ohio before but i got some friends up there and i heard its  horrible during  this time of the year00:59
chibihogoshinoyeah01:02
chibihogoshinoits just cold on top of cold.. with the addition of wind01:02
Hex00010I just hope  Tuesday  it wont be cold i litterly hate  going to ITT Tech and its cold as hell outside01:04
chibihogoshinodo you have to walk ?01:05
Hex00010No i drive but  we have a  20 minute break  before it starts01:06
Hex00010so we all just go out side and i smoke a  cig and talk but while im smoking my hands litterly turn purple its so cold01:06
chibihogoshinogloves ?01:07
Hex00010You know i always tell myself i need to get those  but  it seems as if  i always forget everday even if i remind myself  litterly 50 times a day01:08
chibihogoshinoput them with your keys01:09
Hex00010ha good idea01:10
chibihogoshinoor do you have to buy a set ?01:10
chibihogoshinohow long does it take to go there ?01:10
Hex00010takes around  25 minutes from my house to my college01:11
chibihogoshinothey have heating pads you can get01:12
chibihogoshinoyou put them in the microwave and they stay warm for a few hours01:12
Hex00010Ill have to go get those  my friend had those01:14
chibihogoshinoyou could stop smoking and stay inside :-001:14
chibihogoshino:-)01:14
Hex00010Yeah dont see that   coming true any time soon01:15
chibihogoshinoi hear its hard to quit01:17
Hex00010It is and  if a person ever tell's you its not hard then there  bullshitting01:17
Hex00010either that  or they have only smoked like  1  cig01:17
Hex00010This is off topic01:18
chibihogoshinoheh01:18
chibihogoshinoit sways allot in here01:19
Hex00010But i seriously  seriously fucking hate  people  defacing random ass websites01:19
Hex00010It pisses me off so much01:19
chibihogoshinohuh01:19
Hex00010i told you01:19
Hex00010it was off topic lol01:19
chibihogoshinowhat web site ?01:19
chibihogoshinoi thought you were talking about the last topic and what this channel is ..01:20
Hex00010i major in  Information System Secuirty , And  Data Communications  Forenics Analaysis   Ive been  into Hacking Methodology for about  8 years now and  i go to these random  "  Hacking Forums "  that  talk about  Hacking and  you will come across some sites that encourage  people defacing websites. And it just pisses me seeing people do this01:20
chibihogoshinothe "hacking" sites iv been on seam like a joke01:21
Hex000109 * out of 10 all  " hacking " sites  are  all jokes01:24
Hex00010If you actually think about it  almost all the sites  have the EXACT same post on all of there forums. There is nothing new nor Educational at all.01:24
chibihogoshinoseams like most dont know what hacking is01:24
Hex00010no they dont  they google  public exploits  search the dork in google and  use some gay sqli  against the site deface it and call them selves hackers? its pathetic01:25
chibihogoshinoyeah01:26
Hex00010This stuff gives me a headache  seeing this stuff lol01:26
chibihogoshinounless its to get a message out its pointless01:26
Hex00010There  are only 3  things that i deface01:27
Hex000101.  Media  -- To  make a Political Message  ,  2. I deface  hacking  websites that teach people how to hack,   3. and  Credit card  selling  forums01:27
chibihogoshinoyeah01:28
chibihogoshinotho the media would spin it so it would probably get the opposite message across01:31
Hex00010Had to go to the store01:33
Hex00010Here is a  really fun IT  Security Challenge  http://fc4.me its from the creators of  BackTrack01:34
Hex00010You will have fun with it if your into that type of stuff01:34
chibihogoshinowould be nice if i knew what to do after i got to the web page..01:37
Hex00010lol01:37
Hex00010Do you understand programing?01:37
chibihogoshinonope.. not so much..01:39
chibihogoshinoi tried to learn c but that didnt work out to well01:39
Hex00010:(01:39
chibihogoshinoim going to try python again01:39
Hex00010Well  you dont really have to understand programing to interpet what to do01:39
Hex00010Look at the  f4c.js script01:39
chibihogoshinolol01:49
chibihogoshinoif i decoded the right thing.. thats funny01:52
chibihogoshinonope. lol.. didnt get it01:57
cyberangerwrst: Atl Linux Fest and fl. linux fest both were cancelled, dissappointing (however I would have probally been working)02:44
cyberangerand idk if I'm the most active, it's hard to measure, but middle and west tn have had more meetups02:46
cyberangerlooks like we've got new people on irc for 201102:58
chibihogoshinowhy are they canceled ?03:23
chibihogoshino^ cyberanger ^03:23
cyberangerthey were in 2010, fall and recession, bad combo?03:27
cyberanger(fall follows a bunch of summer ones like fosscon rit, or self)03:28
chibihogoshinoah03:38
chibihogoshinothat sucks03:38
cyberangeryeah, but costs gotta be managed03:41
cyberangerthe buildings atl. linux fest and fl linux fest might have wanted more or didn't offer the space03:42
chibihogoshinoyeah03:45
cyberangerwrst: oh, btw: rcs's server was becuase webchat runs on the same server (really I should use that one myself for the same reason, but I chose the CMU server hubbard in pittsburgh)04:34
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Dan9186mornin peoples15:23
cyberangermorning Dan918615:24
Dan9186how goes it? :)15:24
cyberangernot bad15:25
Dan9186so i got a question for ya, got any recommendations for an inventory management solution?15:25
cyberangernot an area I've yet looked into15:27
Dan9186yeah, i'm real familiar with BMC's Service Desk, but was hoping for something a little less involved, and needless to say everything i google turns up junk15:28
Dan9186cyberanger: but i was looking to you for the question to life the universe and everything :)15:29
cyberangerequals 4215:29
Dan9186yes but i've tried a number of questions and they just don't work out to be right15:30
cyberangerin a few months we might have members in a few months that'd know15:31
cyberangerAmazon in Chattanooga and all15:32
Dan9186hmmm15:32
Dan9186when did they get there?15:32
Dan9186so that means we're gonna start having tax on items from Amazon?15:32
Dan9186not so much on the more jobs front but the tax will suck15:33
cyberangerwell, they're not yet there, afaik15:33
cyberangeron the way, though15:33
cyberangernext to the new vw plant15:33
* Dan9186 goes and buys the next 5 years worth of things from amazon15:33
cyberangerand idk about tax, if it's just a distrobution center15:34
cyberangerbut yeah, I expect it15:34
Dan9186yeah they have to apply a tax to all sales in any state that they actually reside in15:35
cyberangerand thus why I like using a ups store across the state line15:36
Dan9186very sneaky sir very sneaky15:39
Dan9186but that is a nice thing about memphis too15:39
cyberangerand chattanooga15:39
cyberangertwo states near memphis15:39
cyberangerand three near chattanooga15:39
Dan9186the fiancee and i go to arkansas and mississippi all the time :)15:39
cyberangerI ususally stick to the carolinas, but georgia and alabama works too15:40
cyberangergeogria isn't ideal, atlanta has ups, becomes the same issue with fedex and memphis15:42
Dan9186heh yup15:42
Dan9186though if it weren't for fedex memphis would be dead15:42
cyberangervs dieing15:43
Dan9186we lopped a large portion of the necrotic tissue off with getting rid of king willy15:43
cyberangersame with where I grew up, some plastic corp. is all15:44
cyberangerand less than before15:44
Dan9186where was that?15:46
cyberangerErie, PA15:46
Dan9186oh what was that work order software you suggested a while back? RT and what did it stand for15:46
Dan9186interesting, sorry to hear you were sentenced to the south :P15:47
cyberangersentenced, hehe, that was a long time ago, some things I miss sure, but few regrets15:48
Dan9186i was born, grew up in, and lived in memphis almost all my life15:48
Dan9186not my most favorite place15:48
cyberangerassuming it was me, http://www.sugarcrm.com/ Sugar CRM15:49
cyberangercustomer relationship management15:49
cyberanger?15:49
Dan9186hmm, thought it was you, but text does look all alike15:50
cyberangerhehe15:50
Dan9186it wasn't sugarcrm, but i'ma add that to my list of things15:50
cyberangerhrm15:54
* Dan9186 is really hating windows right now15:58
* cyberanger allways hates windows15:59
Dan9186i've had to reassemble a laptop, and had to install of all things vista15:59
Dan9186it gets almost all the way through when it hangs on the "completing isntallation.."15:59
cyberangerthat sounds like so much fun </scarsam>16:06
Dan9186windows is always fun16:06
Dan9186though i've never been, i would assume it's about as much fun as being on the wrong side of a shotgun barrel16:07
cyberangerwell, I think it's a little more fun than that, like sitting on some plastic explosive16:09
Dan9186oh i see, you're suggesting it's more of a ride16:10
cyberangeryeah, life's a blast, go out with a bang16:10
cyberangerthe ending is still the same unwanted outcome16:10
cyberangerlinux is like that too, more like fireworks16:11
Dan9186well anything can be when it doesn't work, but i've had a lot more success thus far with linux16:12
cyberangerand usually the fireworks don't blow off a finger16:12
cyberangerjust frustration when it doesn't lite16:13
Dan9186you haven't seen the pics i have on my phone then :)16:13
cyberanger(aka, configuring a new daemon, and it fails to work at first)16:13
Dan9186best friend is an ER nurse16:13
cyberangerI was referring to linux, not fireworks at that point16:14
Dan9186hehe, it's only as dangerous as the surface of the desk is when you /headdesk16:14
Dan9186what is the package called to install all the web server stuff? lamp?17:23
Dan9186netritious: mornin18:07
netritiousmorning Dan918618:09
netritiousHappy New Year :)18:09
Dan9186that's an aweful lot of pressure to put on me to suggest that the entirity of the whole year will be happy :P18:20
Dan9186verdict is still out as to what direction it may go considering the wedding and all18:20
netritiouslol Dan918618:47
Dan9186netritious: sorry was at lunch when i started chatting, so how was your new years?19:57
netritiousgood Dan9186...set off some fireworks around 11:30 pm when there was a small lull in the rain20:07
netritiousoh, and my wife made the New Years Eve Good Luck dinner...20:15
netritiouswe usually have lamb chops, but this year she made Gyros from ground lamb at my request20:15
netritiousgot the recipe from Xpistos and it is purty friggin' good20:15
wrsthello netritious , Dan918620:40
wrstnetritious: did you have successful upgrades?20:40
cyberangerDan9186: I'd just do it package by package20:51
cyberangerapache220:51
cyberangermysql20:51
cyberangerphp20:51
Dan9186yeah already did :)20:51
wrstgood afternoon cyberanger20:51
cyberangerreason I do that is usually I just need apache20:51
Dan9186thought i just might get to be lazy was all20:51
cyberangerwrst: did you see last night's messages I sent20:52
* wrst scrolls up20:53
wrstoh yeah cyberanger i don't think i fully understood that20:53
cyberangerwhat bit?20:55
wrstthe irc server part20:58
cyberangerah, he logged into http://webchat.freenode.net which is holmes.freenode.net21:07
wrstahh ok21:08
cyberangerwhy connect to the internet, when connecting to localhost will do21:08
wrstactually the web freenode client is pretty good21:08
cyberangerand idk how they deal with irc.freenode.net, but it appears to be a dns round robin21:09
cyberangerhowever I've just used hubbard.freenode.net (hardcoded) run be CMU21:11
cyberangerthat's why he went straight to holmes21:14
netritiouswrst: yes and no, but walking out the door atm...will explain later :D21:15
netritiousafk21:15
netritiousDan9186: sudo tasksel install lamp-server21:16
netritiousok, now afk21:16
cyberanger(I should be using it too, tennessee via ssh to london to irc to pittsburgh to the linked ircd and then the other client, not an ideal route21:19
cyberangeresp if enough clients use the same ircd)21:20
cyberangermhall119: Qimo got a good metion in chattanooga's lug21:21
wrstcyberanger: i don't even know what network i'm on21:27
cyberangerverne21:28
cyberangernewark nj21:28
cyberanger /whois wrst wrst21:29
wrstthat's not too far away then :)21:29
cyberangeryeah, and really the datacenter to datacenter (or my case university) lines are supurb so verne or holmes isn't that different, suprisingly21:30
wrsti  would have more issues with my limited speed to my house i would think than anything else21:31
cyberangerfunny thing, I speed tested linode last night, I expected atlanta to win, followed by newark and dallas21:38
cyberangerlondon actually won21:38
cyberangernetwork topology can be weird that way21:39
wrstwhen i do any speed test atlanta generally is one of the slower ones for me21:41
cyberangeryes, but I also made traceroute a part of my test, all routed to atlanta21:43
cyberangerwhich made it weirder for it to be so slow21:43
cyberangerhey starsprout21:44
starsproutping21:46
starsproutwhat lightweight distro is recommended for installing on a machine with only 256M or RAM?21:47
cyberangercrunchbang, damn small linux, puppy linux21:49
cyberangerothers, but those three are my favorites (in order)21:49
starsproutperfect - I was just reading about crunchbang.21:50
starsproutgonna give it a shot on these older boxes21:51
wrststarsprout: if you are interested in staying around ubuntu might want to give lubuntu a try22:15
starsproutlubuntu22:21
starsproutsounds promising22:21
cyberangeryes, but at this time I'd put #! ahead of it22:26
cyberangeror do a lean install22:27
starsproutpuppy's looking pretty good, although I can't seem to get it to boot after the installation yet22:28
wrstcyberanger: i have ran lubuntu on a machine with 256MB of RAM i thought it ran pretty nicely23:01
* wrst wonders where software center went in natty23:10
cyberangerwrst: before or after some of the later changes23:18
cyberangerthey kinda bloated it beyond the debian build23:18
cyberangerhey lengau23:19

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