[00:11] <Xpistos> Hey everybody
[00:14] <Xpistos> cyberanger: are you around?
[00:18] <chibihogoshino> hey Xpistos
[00:35] <Hex00010> What's up
[00:40] <chibihogoshino> its dead in here right now
[00:40] <Hex00010> Yeah i kinda figured lol
[00:46] <Xpistos> hey chibihogoshino
[00:46] <chibihogoshino> hey
[00:46] <chibihogoshino> whats up
[00:50] <DrPepper> So is everyone here from TN?
[00:51] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[00:51] <chibihogoshino> i think so
[00:52] <Hex00010> Thats cool    Did you guys like that nice  storm last night?
[00:52] <Hex00010> Duno if you guys got it  but it hit us really hard near memphis
[00:53] <chibihogoshino> in knox we had rain and a bit of thunder. but thats about it..
[00:53] <chibihogoshino> it was a nice change of pace
[00:54] <Hex00010> Yeah just wish it was as warm as it was last night today
[00:54] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[00:54] <chibihogoshino> warm is nice
[00:54] <chibihogoshino> cold is bad
[00:55] <Hex00010> I've learned to adapt to it i live  in  OR for a  couple years which is always cold  then moved to Utah , SL  and it was hot every day   around 95+ degrees then moved to TN  so its like in the middle of warm and cold to me
[00:55] <chibihogoshino> i wouldnt mind 90 right now
[00:56] <Hex00010> I know its  cold as hell out side right now
[00:58] <chibihogoshino> not as bad a ohio tho..
[00:58] <chibihogoshino> i dont miss the winters there
[00:59] <Hex00010> ha , I've never been to ohio before but i got some friends up there and i heard its  horrible during  this time of the year
[01:02] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[01:02] <chibihogoshino> its just cold on top of cold.. with the addition of wind
[01:04] <Hex00010> I just hope  Tuesday  it wont be cold i litterly hate  going to ITT Tech and its cold as hell outside
[01:05] <chibihogoshino> do you have to walk ?
[01:06] <Hex00010> No i drive but  we have a  20 minute break  before it starts
[01:06] <Hex00010> so we all just go out side and i smoke a  cig and talk but while im smoking my hands litterly turn purple its so cold
[01:07] <chibihogoshino> gloves ?
[01:08] <Hex00010> You know i always tell myself i need to get those  but  it seems as if  i always forget everday even if i remind myself  litterly 50 times a day
[01:09] <chibihogoshino> put them with your keys
[01:10] <Hex00010> ha good idea
[01:10] <chibihogoshino> or do you have to buy a set ?
[01:10] <chibihogoshino> how long does it take to go there ?
[01:11] <Hex00010> takes around  25 minutes from my house to my college
[01:12] <chibihogoshino> they have heating pads you can get
[01:12] <chibihogoshino> you put them in the microwave and they stay warm for a few hours
[01:14] <Hex00010> Ill have to go get those  my friend had those
[01:14] <chibihogoshino> you could stop smoking and stay inside :-0
[01:14] <chibihogoshino> :-)
[01:15] <Hex00010> Yeah dont see that   coming true any time soon
[01:17] <chibihogoshino> i hear its hard to quit
[01:17] <Hex00010> It is and  if a person ever tell's you its not hard then there  bullshitting
[01:17] <Hex00010> either that  or they have only smoked like  1  cig
[01:18] <Hex00010> This is off topic
[01:18] <chibihogoshino> heh
[01:19] <chibihogoshino> it sways allot in here
[01:19] <Hex00010> But i seriously  seriously fucking hate  people  defacing random ass websites
[01:19] <Hex00010> It pisses me off so much
[01:19] <chibihogoshino> huh
[01:19] <Hex00010> i told you
[01:19] <Hex00010> it was off topic lol
[01:19] <chibihogoshino> what web site ?
[01:20] <chibihogoshino> i thought you were talking about the last topic and what this channel is ..
[01:20] <Hex00010> i major in  Information System Secuirty , And  Data Communications  Forenics Analaysis   Ive been  into Hacking Methodology for about  8 years now and  i go to these random  "  Hacking Forums "  that  talk about  Hacking and  you will come across some sites that encourage  people defacing websites. And it just pisses me seeing people do this
[01:21] <chibihogoshino> the "hacking" sites iv been on seam like a joke
[01:24] <Hex00010> 9 * out of 10 all  " hacking " sites  are  all jokes
[01:24] <Hex00010> If you actually think about it  almost all the sites  have the EXACT same post on all of there forums. There is nothing new nor Educational at all.
[01:24] <chibihogoshino> seams like most dont know what hacking is
[01:25] <Hex00010> no they dont  they google  public exploits  search the dork in google and  use some gay sqli  against the site deface it and call them selves hackers? its pathetic
[01:26] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[01:26] <Hex00010> This stuff gives me a headache  seeing this stuff lol
[01:26] <chibihogoshino> unless its to get a message out its pointless
[01:27] <Hex00010> There  are only 3  things that i deface
[01:27] <Hex00010> 1.  Media  -- To  make a Political Message  ,  2. I deface  hacking  websites that teach people how to hack,   3. and  Credit card  selling  forums
[01:28] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[01:31] <chibihogoshino> tho the media would spin it so it would probably get the opposite message across
[01:33] <Hex00010> Had to go to the store
[01:34] <Hex00010> Here is a  really fun IT  Security Challenge  http://fc4.me its from the creators of  BackTrack
[01:34] <Hex00010> You will have fun with it if your into that type of stuff
[01:37] <chibihogoshino> would be nice if i knew what to do after i got to the web page..
[01:37] <Hex00010> lol
[01:37] <Hex00010> Do you understand programing?
[01:39] <chibihogoshino> nope.. not so much..
[01:39] <chibihogoshino> i tried to learn c but that didnt work out to well
[01:39] <Hex00010> :(
[01:39] <chibihogoshino> im going to try python again
[01:39] <Hex00010> Well  you dont really have to understand programing to interpet what to do
[01:39] <Hex00010> Look at the  f4c.js script
[01:49] <chibihogoshino> lol
[01:52] <chibihogoshino> if i decoded the right thing.. thats funny
[01:57] <chibihogoshino> nope. lol.. didnt get it
[02:44] <cyberanger> wrst: Atl Linux Fest and fl. linux fest both were cancelled, dissappointing (however I would have probally been working)
[02:46] <cyberanger> and idk if I'm the most active, it's hard to measure, but middle and west tn have had more meetups
[02:58] <cyberanger> looks like we've got new people on irc for 2011
[03:23] <chibihogoshino> why are they canceled ?
[03:23] <chibihogoshino> ^ cyberanger ^
[03:27] <cyberanger> they were in 2010, fall and recession, bad combo?
[03:28] <cyberanger> (fall follows a bunch of summer ones like fosscon rit, or self)
[03:38] <chibihogoshino> ah
[03:38] <chibihogoshino> that sucks
[03:41] <cyberanger> yeah, but costs gotta be managed
[03:42] <cyberanger> the buildings atl. linux fest and fl linux fest might have wanted more or didn't offer the space
[03:45] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[04:34] <cyberanger> wrst: oh, btw: rcs's server was becuase webchat runs on the same server (really I should use that one myself for the same reason, but I chose the CMU server hubbard in pittsburgh)
[15:23] <Dan9186> mornin peoples
[15:24] <cyberanger> morning Dan9186
[15:24] <Dan9186> how goes it? :)
[15:25] <cyberanger> not bad
[15:25] <Dan9186> so i got a question for ya, got any recommendations for an inventory management solution?
[15:27] <cyberanger> not an area I've yet looked into
[15:28] <Dan9186> yeah, i'm real familiar with BMC's Service Desk, but was hoping for something a little less involved, and needless to say everything i google turns up junk
[15:29] <Dan9186> cyberanger: but i was looking to you for the question to life the universe and everything :)
[15:29] <cyberanger> equals 42
[15:30] <Dan9186> yes but i've tried a number of questions and they just don't work out to be right
[15:31] <cyberanger> in a few months we might have members in a few months that'd know
[15:32] <cyberanger> Amazon in Chattanooga and all
[15:32] <Dan9186> hmmm
[15:32] <Dan9186> when did they get there?
[15:32] <Dan9186> so that means we're gonna start having tax on items from Amazon?
[15:33] <Dan9186> not so much on the more jobs front but the tax will suck
[15:33] <cyberanger> well, they're not yet there, afaik
[15:33] <cyberanger> on the way, though
[15:33] <cyberanger> next to the new vw plant
[15:33]  * Dan9186 goes and buys the next 5 years worth of things from amazon
[15:34] <cyberanger> and idk about tax, if it's just a distrobution center
[15:34] <cyberanger> but yeah, I expect it
[15:35] <Dan9186> yeah they have to apply a tax to all sales in any state that they actually reside in
[15:36] <cyberanger> and thus why I like using a ups store across the state line
[15:39] <Dan9186> very sneaky sir very sneaky
[15:39] <Dan9186> but that is a nice thing about memphis too
[15:39] <cyberanger> and chattanooga
[15:39] <cyberanger> two states near memphis
[15:39] <cyberanger> and three near chattanooga
[15:39] <Dan9186> the fiancee and i go to arkansas and mississippi all the time :)
[15:40] <cyberanger> I ususally stick to the carolinas, but georgia and alabama works too
[15:42] <cyberanger> geogria isn't ideal, atlanta has ups, becomes the same issue with fedex and memphis
[15:42] <Dan9186> heh yup
[15:42] <Dan9186> though if it weren't for fedex memphis would be dead
[15:43] <cyberanger> vs dieing
[15:43] <Dan9186> we lopped a large portion of the necrotic tissue off with getting rid of king willy
[15:44] <cyberanger> same with where I grew up, some plastic corp. is all
[15:44] <cyberanger> and less than before
[15:46] <Dan9186> where was that?
[15:46] <cyberanger> Erie, PA
[15:46] <Dan9186> oh what was that work order software you suggested a while back? RT and what did it stand for
[15:47] <Dan9186> interesting, sorry to hear you were sentenced to the south :P
[15:48] <cyberanger> sentenced, hehe, that was a long time ago, some things I miss sure, but few regrets
[15:48] <Dan9186> i was born, grew up in, and lived in memphis almost all my life
[15:48] <Dan9186> not my most favorite place
[15:49] <cyberanger> assuming it was me, http://www.sugarcrm.com/ Sugar CRM
[15:49] <cyberanger> customer relationship management
[15:49] <cyberanger> ?
[15:50] <Dan9186> hmm, thought it was you, but text does look all alike
[15:50] <cyberanger> hehe
[15:50] <Dan9186> it wasn't sugarcrm, but i'ma add that to my list of things
[15:54] <cyberanger> hrm
[15:58]  * Dan9186 is really hating windows right now
[15:59]  * cyberanger allways hates windows
[15:59] <Dan9186> i've had to reassemble a laptop, and had to install of all things vista
[15:59] <Dan9186> it gets almost all the way through when it hangs on the "completing isntallation.."
[16:06] <cyberanger> that sounds like so much fun </scarsam>
[16:06] <Dan9186> windows is always fun
[16:07] <Dan9186> though i've never been, i would assume it's about as much fun as being on the wrong side of a shotgun barrel
[16:09] <cyberanger> well, I think it's a little more fun than that, like sitting on some plastic explosive
[16:10] <Dan9186> oh i see, you're suggesting it's more of a ride
[16:10] <cyberanger> yeah, life's a blast, go out with a bang
[16:10] <cyberanger> the ending is still the same unwanted outcome
[16:11] <cyberanger> linux is like that too, more like fireworks
[16:12] <Dan9186> well anything can be when it doesn't work, but i've had a lot more success thus far with linux
[16:12] <cyberanger> and usually the fireworks don't blow off a finger
[16:13] <cyberanger> just frustration when it doesn't lite
[16:13] <Dan9186> you haven't seen the pics i have on my phone then :)
[16:13] <cyberanger> (aka, configuring a new daemon, and it fails to work at first)
[16:13] <Dan9186> best friend is an ER nurse
[16:14] <cyberanger> I was referring to linux, not fireworks at that point
[16:14] <Dan9186> hehe, it's only as dangerous as the surface of the desk is when you /headdesk
[17:23] <Dan9186> what is the package called to install all the web server stuff? lamp?
[18:07] <Dan9186> netritious: mornin
[18:09] <netritious> morning Dan9186
[18:09] <netritious> Happy New Year :)
[18:20] <Dan9186> that's an aweful lot of pressure to put on me to suggest that the entirity of the whole year will be happy :P
[18:20] <Dan9186> verdict is still out as to what direction it may go considering the wedding and all
[18:47] <netritious> lol Dan9186
[19:57] <Dan9186> netritious: sorry was at lunch when i started chatting, so how was your new years?
[20:07] <netritious> good Dan9186...set off some fireworks around 11:30 pm when there was a small lull in the rain
[20:15] <netritious> oh, and my wife made the New Years Eve Good Luck dinner...
[20:15] <netritious> we usually have lamb chops, but this year she made Gyros from ground lamb at my request
[20:15] <netritious> got the recipe from Xpistos and it is purty friggin' good
[20:40] <wrst> hello netritious , Dan9186
[20:40] <wrst> netritious: did you have successful upgrades?
[20:51] <cyberanger> Dan9186: I'd just do it package by package
[20:51] <cyberanger> apache2
[20:51] <cyberanger> mysql
[20:51] <cyberanger> php
[20:51] <Dan9186> yeah already did :)
[20:51] <wrst> good afternoon cyberanger
[20:51] <cyberanger> reason I do that is usually I just need apache
[20:51] <Dan9186> thought i just might get to be lazy was all
[20:52] <cyberanger> wrst: did you see last night's messages I sent
[20:53]  * wrst scrolls up
[20:53] <wrst> oh yeah cyberanger i don't think i fully understood that
[20:55] <cyberanger> what bit?
[20:58] <wrst> the irc server part
[21:07] <cyberanger> ah, he logged into http://webchat.freenode.net which is holmes.freenode.net
[21:08] <wrst> ahh ok
[21:08] <cyberanger> why connect to the internet, when connecting to localhost will do
[21:08] <wrst> actually the web freenode client is pretty good
[21:09] <cyberanger> and idk how they deal with irc.freenode.net, but it appears to be a dns round robin
[21:11] <cyberanger> however I've just used hubbard.freenode.net (hardcoded) run be CMU
[21:14] <cyberanger> that's why he went straight to holmes
[21:15] <netritious> wrst: yes and no, but walking out the door atm...will explain later :D
[21:15] <netritious> afk
[21:16] <netritious> Dan9186: sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[21:16] <netritious> ok, now afk
[21:19] <cyberanger> (I should be using it too, tennessee via ssh to london to irc to pittsburgh to the linked ircd and then the other client, not an ideal route
[21:20] <cyberanger> esp if enough clients use the same ircd)
[21:21] <cyberanger> mhall119: Qimo got a good metion in chattanooga's lug
[21:27] <wrst> cyberanger: i don't even know what network i'm on
[21:28] <cyberanger> verne
[21:28] <cyberanger> newark nj
[21:29] <cyberanger>  /whois wrst wrst
[21:29] <wrst> that's not too far away then :)
[21:30] <cyberanger> yeah, and really the datacenter to datacenter (or my case university) lines are supurb so verne or holmes isn't that different, suprisingly
[21:31] <wrst> i  would have more issues with my limited speed to my house i would think than anything else
[21:38] <cyberanger> funny thing, I speed tested linode last night, I expected atlanta to win, followed by newark and dallas
[21:38] <cyberanger> london actually won
[21:39] <cyberanger> network topology can be weird that way
[21:41] <wrst> when i do any speed test atlanta generally is one of the slower ones for me
[21:43] <cyberanger> yes, but I also made traceroute a part of my test, all routed to atlanta
[21:43] <cyberanger> which made it weirder for it to be so slow
[21:44] <cyberanger> hey starsprout
[21:46] <starsprout> ping
[21:47] <starsprout> what lightweight distro is recommended for installing on a machine with only 256M or RAM?
[21:49] <cyberanger> crunchbang, damn small linux, puppy linux
[21:49] <cyberanger> others, but those three are my favorites (in order)
[21:50] <starsprout> perfect - I was just reading about crunchbang.
[21:51] <starsprout> gonna give it a shot on these older boxes
[22:15] <wrst> starsprout: if you are interested in staying around ubuntu might want to give lubuntu a try
[22:21] <starsprout> lubuntu
[22:21] <starsprout> sounds promising
[22:26] <cyberanger> yes, but at this time I'd put #! ahead of it
[22:27] <cyberanger> or do a lean install
[22:28] <starsprout> puppy's looking pretty good, although I can't seem to get it to boot after the installation yet
[23:01] <wrst> cyberanger: i have ran lubuntu on a machine with 256MB of RAM i thought it ran pretty nicely
[23:10]  * wrst wonders where software center went in natty
[23:18] <cyberanger> wrst: before or after some of the later changes
[23:18] <cyberanger> they kinda bloated it beyond the debian build
[23:19] <cyberanger> hey lengau