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kvalogood morning08:08
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MacSlowHappy new year everybody!08:16
didrockshey MacSlow! Happy new year to you too!08:18
didrockskvalo as well, how are you? :)08:18
MacSlowhey didrocks!08:19
cozziemotohappy new guys... sorry up all night  so slow to respong :)08:27
kvalodidrocks, MacSlow: happy new your guys08:33
kvalo*year :)08:34
MacSlowhey cozziemoto, kvalo!08:34
kvalodidrocks: I'm good, thanks. and you?08:34
MacSlowkvalo, cozziemoto: thanks!08:34
didrockskvalo: I'm good as well, thanks :) No cold yet \o/08:34
MacSlowkvalo, still buried in snow over there?08:34
kvalodidrocks: that's good :)08:35
kvaloMacSlow: oh yeah, at least 30 cm of snow here08:36
MacSlowkvalo, we're slowly getting rid of it here... I hope it'll stay that way08:37
dbarthstill fighting with that odd crasher from before christmas08:53
dbarthdidrocks: i think that was related to the compiz issue where unity couldn't start at the beginning of the session, some race with gsettings or so08:54
didrocksdbarth: gconf you mean?08:54
dbarthwell yes08:54
didrocks(well, the gconf backend to be precise)08:54
didrocksyeah, I talked this morning to smspillaz about it he'll have a look at it to fix it properly08:54
dbarthah ok, i was going to ask08:55
kvalodidrocks: hey, I need some help. unity doesn't start for me anymore09:34
kvalodidrocks: I saw this sometime before xmas for the first time09:35
didrockskvalo: does compiz start?09:35
kvalolet me check09:35
kvalodidrocks: yeah, I see compiz with ps09:35
didrockskvalo: apt-cache policy compiz09:36
kvalodidrocks: all I see is the background image and I can get a (nautilus?) menu with a right click09:36
kvaloI need to install sshd first, will take a minute09:37
didrocksok :)09:37
kvalodidrocks: compiz:09:41
kvalo  Installed: 1:0.9.2.1+glibmainloop3-0ubuntu509:41
kvalo  Candidate: 1:0.9.2.1+glibmainloop3-0ubuntu509:41
kvalo  Version table:09:41
kvalo *** 1:0.9.2.1+glibmainloop3-0ubuntu5 009:41
didrockshum, sounds good, weird09:42
kvalodidrocks: I even created a new user, no luck09:42
didrockskvalo: can you try unity --reset in a tty please?09:42
kvalodidrocks: haha, unity package was missing09:43
didrocks:)09:43
kvalodidrocks: sorry dude!09:43
didrocksno worry kvalo ;)09:43
kvalofor some reason ubuntu-desktop package was removed :/09:43
didrocksthere were something weird with dee or gir*, I had to upgrade that manually apt-get install <conflicting package>09:46
kvalodidrocks: and now to my next problem :) I don't see menus most of the time. I talked with njpatel earlier and this is a known issue. but do you know if there's a bug report about this? I would like to follow the status09:47
didrocksyeah, it's a bug in compiz, smspillaz is aware about it09:48
kvalodidrocks: is there a bug report?09:48
didrocksnot sure of a bug report right now, I filed one but it seems we got hundreds of compiz bugs this holidays, I still have to finish my bug emails before telling you09:48
didrocksnobody triaged compiz ones, unfortunately09:49
kvalodidrocks: that's bad :( let me know if you want me to file a bug09:49
didrockskvalo: first, look for it if there is one, but I still have more than 1000+ bug emails so, I'm not sure to be able to answer you today09:50
kvalodidrocks: ok, I'll try to search it. thanks09:51
didrocksyw09:51
didrockskvalo: bug #69046110:11
ubot5Launchpad bug 690461 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Menus in applications are hidden under the application" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69046110:11
kvalodidrocks: I don't see menus _at all_10:11
didrockskvalo: oh ok, I have the same behavior sometimes, depends on login, right10:12
kvalodidrocks: exactly10:12
didrockskvalo: there should be a bug about it as well10:12
kvalodidrocks: like 1 out of 10 logins I might see menus10:12
didrocksit's worse than here then10:13
kvalodidrocks: yeah, it's really bad10:53
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kamstrupdidrocks: I need some divine insight... Since Karmic I've been haunted by a most annoying bug in the installer, making it impossible to install Ubuntu on my netbook. I finally found grokked the issue but don't know how to fix it - so I wondered if you could point me to the right guy?12:25
kamstrupThe problem is that the installer believes it's running from sda1, but really it runs from sdb112:25
didrockskamstrup: invoke evan or cjwatson :)12:26
didrockshum, hard drive issue, cjwatson is your man :)12:26
didrocksso, you have no sda?12:26
kamstrupdidrocks: I do... that's my normal hd12:26
didrocksor it's a cdrom drive?12:26
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didrocksoh, the cdrom is sdb :)12:27
kamstrupdidrocks: for some odd reason the installer detects my hd as sda1 and the usb stick as sdb112:27
kamstrupdidrocks: it's a netbook12:27
kamstrupso no cd12:27
didrockskamstrup: I saw some netbook with cd… but yeah, I read to fast. sorry :)12:28
didrocksok, that's weird as it seems to only affect ubiquity and the gparted switch has been made before karmic12:28
kamstrupdidrocks: yeah, I'm really stumped as well12:29
didrocksping cjwatson, he'll certainly shed some light on this12:29
kamstrupdidrocks: I pinged cjwatson - he's back from holidays tomorrow, so i'll figure it out with him12:30
ScottKkamstrup: There is #ubuntu-installer for these kinds of disucssions.12:30
kamstrupScottK: thanks, I'll try there then12:30
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coz_hey all14:28
jcastrowb didrocks!14:40
jcastrodidrocks: any new bitesizes coming in?14:41
didrockshey jcastro! Happy new year :)14:41
didrocksjcastro: well, I know let the dx team triaging their bug and do more work than spending time on this14:41
jcastroheh14:41
didrocksthe holidays were a good moment to take that decision :)14:41
jcastroI see we are off to a good start!14:41
didrocks700+ unity bugmails was too much for catching up in addition to other bugmails and lists14:42
lamalexIs anyone else getting bzr crashes on pretty much every operation?15:39
cyphermoxlamalex, yep15:42
cyphermoxyou may want to install 2.7.1-0ubuntu4... here this version works.15:42
cyphermoxmy apologies, I forgot to mention python2.7 for that version number ;)15:42
cyphermoxI'm not sure if it breaks other stuff though :/15:43
lamalexcyphermox, is that a downgrade or ppa or something?15:56
didrockslamalex: hopefully, launchpad has a good memory: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/python2.7 :)15:58
bratscheHmm, I have 2.7.1-0ubuntu4 and my bzr seems to be quite broken.15:58
lamalexah, that's actually the one i have too15:58
dbarth__lamalex: i think didrocks was sending us a subliminal message earlier today ;)16:01
lamalexdbarth__, hm?16:02
dbarth__24 new bugs, not that bad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New16:02
lamalexhah16:02
lamalexI'm working on them ;)16:02
dbarth__30 more if you count downstream: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New16:02
lamalexsomething in my room smells /really/  bad16:02
bratsche:/16:03
lamalexi moved into this room less than a week ago, I have no idea what it could even be16:03
lamalexmaybe I accidentally packed something perishable into a box16:04
didrocksdbarth__: there is also the package ones16:04
didrocksdbarth__: same amount approx16:04
dbarth__yep16:05
didrocksdbarth__: not a subliminal message, just that one of my new year resolution is more hacking less bug triaging :)16:05
dbarth__DBO: are there more bugs that were fix-released in https://launchpad.net/unity/+milestone/3.2.8 ?16:05
DBOlooking16:06
didrocksoh 3.2.8 is the current release? maybe moving pending target to next one16:06
dbarth__ie, can you update the bugs statuses among those still not fixed and let me know which one to move to this week16:06
dbarth__DBO: ^^16:06
DBOjust one...16:08
* DBO sighs16:08
DBOhopefully I can get some of the little shits out of the way soon16:08
lamalexDBO, here's a good one to fix, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/696388 ;)16:11
DBOfudge monkeys16:11
DBOokay, will look at16:11
lamalexit's driving me nuts16:14
lamalexother than that unity on dual screens is pretty baller16:14
lamalexsome small annoyances but "it works" which is pretty ok16:14
cyphermoxlamalex, DBO, bug 696388 seems related to what I'm doing right now16:17
ubot5Launchpad bug 696388 in unity (Ubuntu) "When running with dual monitors, Unity will use the height of the larger one for calculating when to fold" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69638816:17
DBOcyphermox, what are you doing right now?16:17
cyphermoxDBO, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/67586216:18
DBOyes its related indeed :)16:18
cyphermoxgetting the panel (and the launcher, since it's the same thing that happens in the other direction) to not span across monitors ;)16:18
DBOlet me know when/if you fix that :)16:18
cyphermoxI have it almost done... just got some issue redrawing when sizes changes16:19
lamalexyes please16:19
lamalexthat's the other big annoyance16:19
cyphermoxotherwise, when unity starts it does the job fine ;)16:19
cyphermoxright now I got the panels and launchers to react to the mouse where they should be, but it's not actually getting drawn in that spot :/16:19
DBOcyphermox, killer :P16:20
lamalexyeah man, keep rocking16:20
cyphermoxany help or hints will be much appreciated ;)16:20
lamalex"do it right next time"16:22
lamalexthat's my hint16:22
cyphermoxheheh16:23
lamalexi would look but python is broken and I can't check out unity :\16:23
cyphermoxlamalex, didrocks also mentioned doing python2.6 /usr/bin/bzr should work, IIRC16:24
lamalexoh really?16:24
lamalexdidrocks, you are the man16:24
lamalexI would probably be dead without you16:24
cyphermoxbut YMMV if 2.7.1-0ubuntu4 doesn't work for you... maybe bzr has been uploaded to fix the issue and now you really need the new python :)16:24
lamalexi do updated regularly16:25
lamalexwow firefox test pilot tests are driving me crazy16:28
lamalexHow close is banshee to landing by default?16:40
lamalex(or hasi t)16:40
lamalexcyphermox, ok I checked out unity16:40
lamalexdo you have a branch of your code? I can take a look if you want16:41
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cyphermoxlamalex, not quite up to date, hold on (building right now)16:47
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lamalexk16:48
cyphermoxlamalex, lp:~mathieu-tl/unity/multimonitor16:59
lamalexHi API16:59
APIlamalex, hi16:59
cyphermoxthere's some experimentation in there too ;)17:00
APIsorry, I forgot to add ayatana to my automatic-join list17:00
APIlamalex, btw17:00
lamalex;)17:00
APIone question17:00
APIcompiling libcompizconfig17:00
APII get this error17:00
API"FindCompiz.cmake" file not found in cmake module directories.17:00
APIIt should be installed to allow building of external compiz packages.17:00
APICall "sudo make findcompiz_install" to install it.17:00
APIwhen making the cmake phase17:00
APIbut then it compiles without problem17:01
APIthe issue is that I have FindCompiz.cmake17:01
APIproperly installed17:01
lamalexAPI, why are you compiling compiz anyway?17:01
lamalexdo you have to make compiz changes for a11y?17:01
APIwell, this is what this guide says :https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/InstallationGuideFromSource17:01
lamalexah17:01
lamalexthat is probably out of date17:01
lamalexare you on natty?17:01
APIit says that unity requires compiz with the glib17:01
APIyes17:01
lamalexyeah, you can use the packaged natty17:02
lamalexpackaged compiz in natty17:02
APIah ok17:02
APIso I just need to compile nux and unity?17:02
APIlamalex, because I still thing that some changes would be required to be done on nux17:03
APIat least to make things easier17:03
lamalexhaha, apparently i wasn't plugged in17:17
jcastrohi cando_17:48
didrockslamalex: is there a dep on a very recent nux?17:51
jcastrolamalex: is bug #693792 bitesizeable?17:51
ubot5Launchpad bug 693792 in unity (Ubuntu) "Launcher icon goes behind launcher if dialog pops up while dragging icon" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69379217:51
lamalexjcastro, not sure I haven't looked into the workings of it17:52
lamalexjcastro, I would imagine it's not terribly difficult17:53
jcastrok17:53
lamalexjcastro, it might even be related to the menus opening behind apps bug, but that is pure speculation17:55
jcastrok, I added it to the list just to give it some visibility17:55
didrockslamalex: seems you didn't see that: is there a dep on a very recent nux from unity trunk?17:58
lamalexdidrocks, um, i don't think so18:00
lamalexDBO, ^18:00
lamalexdidrocks, not much (anything) has changed in trunk since pre-christmas18:01
lamalexwe might dep on head at the moment though, let me check18:02
didrockshum, I get /home/didrocks/work/unity/unity/show-menu-on-alt/src/Launcher.cpp: In member function ‘void Launcher::RestoreSystemRenderTarget()’:18:02
didrocks/home/didrocks/work/unity/unity/show-menu-on-alt/src/Launcher.cpp:2244:31: error: ‘class nux::WindowCompositor’ has no member named ‘RestoreRenderingSurface’18:02
didrocksand this one is pre-christmas, weird18:04
lamalexdidrocks, the last nux commit is the 0.9.12 release18:04
lamalexwhich is also what's in natty18:05
didrockswhy do I have that build issue then? weird18:05
lamalexdo you have an old version of nux lurking somewhere maybe?18:05
lamalexor an old version of unity that's using some removed api?18:05
lamalexnux head definitely has a RestoreRenderingSurface method18:06
cando_jcastro, hi! here i am18:06
jcastrowelcome back!18:06
cando_i'm sick...eheheh18:07
didrockslamalex: any idea? if you try to compile trunk, it's working for you?18:07
lamalexdidrocks, do you have nux from source or nux from package18:08
cando_jcastro, tell me18:08
didrockslamalex: from package18:09
lamalexk18:09
didrockswith latest -dev and such18:09
lamalexdidrocks, give me a minute to get set up. I got a new laptop over break and since bzr wasn't working I didn't build unity or anything18:09
didrocksok :)18:10
didrocksthanks!18:10
didrockslamalex: all is good, was my fault :)18:13
cando_jcastro, you here?18:17
jcastroyep18:17
jcastrosorry, what's up?18:17
cando_do you need me?18:20
jcastrocando_: no I was just saying hi/happy new year, etc.18:21
cando_jcastro, ahaha...thanks!!!!!!!^^18:21
cando_happy new year to you too!18:21
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cando_have you enjoyed your party?? (if any... :) )18:23
jcastroI am thankfull I no longer have to entertain guests if that's what you mean, heh18:23
lamalexhaha18:24
cando_lol18:24
cando_got to go dudes, ttyl18:25
dbarth jcastro: hey Jorge, how is it going?18:34
dbarthjcastro: best wishes for the new year18:35
jcastrolikewise18:35
jcastroyou ready to rock?18:35
dbarthyeah, ready for 201118:35
dbarthhow's things with the bitesize bugs? is there something blocking or something we need to do?18:36
dbarthi've seend some really cool contributions in december so far18:36
jcastro(sec, on a call)18:37
dbarthok, nw18:37
lamalexdidrocks, I built18:44
lamalexno problem18:44
lamalexyou must have it trying to use an old nux header somewhere18:44
dbarthhey DBO, what's the key again for intellihide?18:51
jcastrodbarth: things are going good, I'd like to see more of them, but *shrug*18:53
jcastrodbarth: I think post-A2 when the major plumbing is in place is when we'll really get rolling18:53
didrockslamalex: thanks, have a nice evevning :)18:59
lamalexyou too18:59
dbarthjcastro: ok19:00
dbarthjcastro: anyway, that also reminds me about api docs19:00
dbarthdidrocks, ah gone...19:00
jcastroyes19:00
dbarthwell, i'll assign him a bug anyway; that's sneaky i know19:01
jcastrodbarth: are api docs going on developer.ubuntu.com or on their own thing?19:01
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dbarthjcastro: well, not sure what was the outcome of the discussion on that19:13
dbarthjcastro: i think i proposed to put that in u.u.c in a static zone19:13
dbarthjcastro: but the content can move everywhere it's needed; at the moment the main task is to organize the api docs19:14
cyphermoxhow can I force unity to redraw the panel and launcher (and probably desktop as well)? I can resize them, they react to mouse actions, but aren't drawn in the right place... I tried wt->RequestRedraw, NeedRedraw, damageNuxRegions... I can't seem to think of a way to have the old textures removed and redrawn elsewhere?20:14
lamalexDBO, ^^20:37
DBOwerd20:38
DBOcyphermox, can you push a branch so I can see what you are doing?20:38
jcastrofagan: ok, now that you're back ... want some bugs? :)20:43
faganjcastro: well I have to do my datastructures assignment over this week but im more or less free to do some bugs20:44
fagan:P20:44
jcastroanything in the topic would be most welcome!20:44
faganthat is unity running dbus service looks like a fun one to do20:48
cyphermoxDBO: lp:~mathieu-tl/unity/multimonitor ; it's the point I'm at now...20:56
DBOcyphermox, thank you, will look at shortly20:56
cyphermoxdisregard how Relayout is getting called, I was trying other things in parallel :)20:57
DBOcyphermox, it looks to me like I'll need to kick nux a bit21:04
DBOthanks for bringing this to my attention21:04
cyphermoxoh, really?21:08
cyphermoxDBO, fwiw, I don't like the fact that in some places, we need to successively Disable and re-enable e.g. struts for them to be resized/reset. it feels like a hack... but that just my own opinion ;)21:09
DBOcyphermox, oh I agree21:10
DBOand I intend to fix that21:10
DBOthe places where I do that are in fact marked "hack"21:10
DBOand if not they should be21:10
cyphermoxthe last thing I tried was ShowWindow (false, then true), but that didn't work any better ;)21:10
cyphermoxso, what's missing?21:11
DBOI need to make nux remember the states you set and ensure they are correct21:12
DBOso like if you enable a input window, enable struts, then disable and re-enable the input window21:12
DBOthe struts dont get re-enabled21:12
DBObecause its not aware of the silliness21:12
cyphermoxanything I can help with?21:14
DBOnot right now, it would take me longer to explain than fix21:15
DBOjust been doin other things :)21:15
DBOI am going to do it today because it now effects more than me :)21:15
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coz_anyone know if this has been reported?   natty daily...7600gt nvidia.. reboot after install " monitor out of range"   swap with 6600gt nvidia  everything is fine  ??21:38
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lamalexindicators are not a good match for weather :\22:06
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