[08:08] <kvalo> good morning
[08:16] <MacSlow> Happy new year everybody!
[08:18] <didrocks> hey MacSlow! Happy new year to you too!
[08:18] <didrocks> kvalo as well, how are you? :)
[08:19] <MacSlow> hey didrocks!
[08:27] <cozziemoto> happy new guys... sorry up all night  so slow to respong :)
[08:33] <kvalo> didrocks, MacSlow: happy new your guys
[08:34] <kvalo> *year :)
[08:34] <MacSlow> hey cozziemoto, kvalo!
[08:34] <kvalo> didrocks: I'm good, thanks. and you?
[08:34] <MacSlow> kvalo, cozziemoto: thanks!
[08:34] <didrocks> kvalo: I'm good as well, thanks :) No cold yet \o/
[08:34] <MacSlow> kvalo, still buried in snow over there?
[08:35] <kvalo> didrocks: that's good :)
[08:36] <kvalo> MacSlow: oh yeah, at least 30 cm of snow here
[08:37] <MacSlow> kvalo, we're slowly getting rid of it here... I hope it'll stay that way
[08:53] <dbarth> still fighting with that odd crasher from before christmas
[08:54] <dbarth> didrocks: i think that was related to the compiz issue where unity couldn't start at the beginning of the session, some race with gsettings or so
[08:54] <didrocks> dbarth: gconf you mean?
[08:54] <dbarth> well yes
[08:54] <didrocks> (well, the gconf backend to be precise)
[08:54] <didrocks> yeah, I talked this morning to smspillaz about it he'll have a look at it to fix it properly
[08:55] <dbarth> ah ok, i was going to ask
[09:34] <kvalo> didrocks: hey, I need some help. unity doesn't start for me anymore
[09:35] <kvalo> didrocks: I saw this sometime before xmas for the first time
[09:35] <didrocks> kvalo: does compiz start?
[09:35] <kvalo> let me check
[09:35] <kvalo> didrocks: yeah, I see compiz with ps
[09:36] <didrocks> kvalo: apt-cache policy compiz
[09:36] <kvalo> didrocks: all I see is the background image and I can get a (nautilus?) menu with a right click
[09:37] <kvalo> I need to install sshd first, will take a minute
[09:37] <didrocks> ok :)
[09:41] <kvalo> didrocks: compiz:
[09:41] <kvalo>   Installed: 1:0.9.2.1+glibmainloop3-0ubuntu5
[09:41] <kvalo>   Candidate: 1:0.9.2.1+glibmainloop3-0ubuntu5
[09:41] <kvalo>   Version table:
[09:41] <kvalo>  *** 1:0.9.2.1+glibmainloop3-0ubuntu5 0
[09:42] <didrocks> hum, sounds good, weird
[09:42] <kvalo> didrocks: I even created a new user, no luck
[09:42] <didrocks> kvalo: can you try unity --reset in a tty please?
[09:43] <kvalo> didrocks: haha, unity package was missing
[09:43] <didrocks> :)
[09:43] <kvalo> didrocks: sorry dude!
[09:43] <didrocks> no worry kvalo ;)
[09:43] <kvalo> for some reason ubuntu-desktop package was removed :/
[09:46] <didrocks> there were something weird with dee or gir*, I had to upgrade that manually apt-get install <conflicting package>
[09:47] <kvalo> didrocks: and now to my next problem :) I don't see menus most of the time. I talked with njpatel earlier and this is a known issue. but do you know if there's a bug report about this? I would like to follow the status
[09:48] <didrocks> yeah, it's a bug in compiz, smspillaz is aware about it
[09:48] <kvalo> didrocks: is there a bug report?
[09:48] <didrocks> not sure of a bug report right now, I filed one but it seems we got hundreds of compiz bugs this holidays, I still have to finish my bug emails before telling you
[09:49] <didrocks> nobody triaged compiz ones, unfortunately
[09:49] <kvalo> didrocks: that's bad :( let me know if you want me to file a bug
[09:50] <didrocks> kvalo: first, look for it if there is one, but I still have more than 1000+ bug emails so, I'm not sure to be able to answer you today
[09:51] <kvalo> didrocks: ok, I'll try to search it. thanks
[09:51] <didrocks> yw
[10:11] <didrocks> kvalo: bug #690461
[10:11] <kvalo> didrocks: I don't see menus _at all_
[10:12] <didrocks> kvalo: oh ok, I have the same behavior sometimes, depends on login, right
[10:12] <kvalo> didrocks: exactly
[10:12] <didrocks> kvalo: there should be a bug about it as well
[10:12] <kvalo> didrocks: like 1 out of 10 logins I might see menus
[10:13] <didrocks> it's worse than here then
[10:53] <kvalo> didrocks: yeah, it's really bad
[12:25] <kamstrup> didrocks: I need some divine insight... Since Karmic I've been haunted by a most annoying bug in the installer, making it impossible to install Ubuntu on my netbook. I finally found grokked the issue but don't know how to fix it - so I wondered if you could point me to the right guy?
[12:25] <kamstrup> The problem is that the installer believes it's running from sda1, but really it runs from sdb1
[12:26] <didrocks> kamstrup: invoke evan or cjwatson :)
[12:26] <didrocks> hum, hard drive issue, cjwatson is your man :)
[12:26] <didrocks> so, you have no sda?
[12:26] <kamstrup> didrocks: I do... that's my normal hd
[12:26] <didrocks> or it's a cdrom drive?
[12:27] <didrocks> oh, the cdrom is sdb :)
[12:27] <kamstrup> didrocks: for some odd reason the installer detects my hd as sda1 and the usb stick as sdb1
[12:27] <kamstrup> didrocks: it's a netbook
[12:27] <kamstrup> so no cd
[12:28] <didrocks> kamstrup: I saw some netbook with cd… but yeah, I read to fast. sorry :)
[12:28] <didrocks> ok, that's weird as it seems to only affect ubiquity and the gparted switch has been made before karmic
[12:29] <kamstrup> didrocks: yeah, I'm really stumped as well
[12:29] <didrocks> ping cjwatson, he'll certainly shed some light on this
[12:30] <kamstrup> didrocks: I pinged cjwatson - he's back from holidays tomorrow, so i'll figure it out with him
[12:30] <ScottK> kamstrup: There is #ubuntu-installer for these kinds of disucssions.
[12:30] <kamstrup> ScottK: thanks, I'll try there then
[14:28] <coz_> hey all
[14:40] <jcastro> wb didrocks!
[14:41] <jcastro> didrocks: any new bitesizes coming in?
[14:41] <didrocks> hey jcastro! Happy new year :)
[14:41] <didrocks> jcastro: well, I know let the dx team triaging their bug and do more work than spending time on this
[14:41] <jcastro> heh
[14:41] <didrocks> the holidays were a good moment to take that decision :)
[14:41] <jcastro> I see we are off to a good start!
[14:42] <didrocks> 700+ unity bugmails was too much for catching up in addition to other bugmails and lists
[15:39] <lamalex> Is anyone else getting bzr crashes on pretty much every operation?
[15:42] <cyphermox> lamalex, yep
[15:42] <cyphermox> you may want to install 2.7.1-0ubuntu4... here this version works.
[15:42] <cyphermox> my apologies, I forgot to mention python2.7 for that version number ;)
[15:43] <cyphermox> I'm not sure if it breaks other stuff though :/
[15:56] <lamalex> cyphermox, is that a downgrade or ppa or something?
[15:58] <didrocks> lamalex: hopefully, launchpad has a good memory: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/python2.7 :)
[15:58] <bratsche> Hmm, I have 2.7.1-0ubuntu4 and my bzr seems to be quite broken.
[15:58] <lamalex> ah, that's actually the one i have too
[16:01] <dbarth__> lamalex: i think didrocks was sending us a subliminal message earlier today ;)
[16:02] <lamalex> dbarth__, hm?
[16:02] <dbarth__> 24 new bugs, not that bad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New
[16:02] <lamalex> hah
[16:02] <lamalex> I'm working on them ;)
[16:02] <dbarth__> 30 more if you count downstream: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New
[16:02] <lamalex> something in my room smells /really/  bad
[16:03] <bratsche> :/
[16:03] <lamalex> i moved into this room less than a week ago, I have no idea what it could even be
[16:04] <lamalex> maybe I accidentally packed something perishable into a box
[16:04] <didrocks> dbarth__: there is also the package ones
[16:04] <didrocks> dbarth__: same amount approx
[16:05] <dbarth__> yep
[16:05] <didrocks> dbarth__: not a subliminal message, just that one of my new year resolution is more hacking less bug triaging :)
[16:05] <dbarth__> DBO: are there more bugs that were fix-released in https://launchpad.net/unity/+milestone/3.2.8 ?
[16:06] <DBO> looking
[16:06] <didrocks> oh 3.2.8 is the current release? maybe moving pending target to next one
[16:06] <dbarth__> ie, can you update the bugs statuses among those still not fixed and let me know which one to move to this week
[16:06] <dbarth__> DBO: ^^
[16:08] <DBO> just one...
[16:08]  * DBO sighs
[16:08] <DBO> hopefully I can get some of the little shits out of the way soon
[16:11] <lamalex> DBO, here's a good one to fix, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/696388 ;)
[16:11] <DBO> fudge monkeys
[16:11] <DBO> okay, will look at
[16:14] <lamalex> it's driving me nuts
[16:14] <lamalex> other than that unity on dual screens is pretty baller
[16:14] <lamalex> some small annoyances but "it works" which is pretty ok
[16:17] <cyphermox> lamalex, DBO, bug 696388 seems related to what I'm doing right now
[16:17] <DBO> cyphermox, what are you doing right now?
[16:18] <cyphermox> DBO, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/675862
[16:18] <DBO> yes its related indeed :)
[16:18] <cyphermox> getting the panel (and the launcher, since it's the same thing that happens in the other direction) to not span across monitors ;)
[16:18] <DBO> let me know when/if you fix that :)
[16:19] <cyphermox> I have it almost done... just got some issue redrawing when sizes changes
[16:19] <lamalex> yes please
[16:19] <lamalex> that's the other big annoyance
[16:19] <cyphermox> otherwise, when unity starts it does the job fine ;)
[16:19] <cyphermox> right now I got the panels and launchers to react to the mouse where they should be, but it's not actually getting drawn in that spot :/
[16:20] <DBO> cyphermox, killer :P
[16:20] <lamalex> yeah man, keep rocking
[16:20] <cyphermox> any help or hints will be much appreciated ;)
[16:22] <lamalex> "do it right next time"
[16:22] <lamalex> that's my hint
[16:23] <cyphermox> heheh
[16:23] <lamalex> i would look but python is broken and I can't check out unity :\
[16:24] <cyphermox> lamalex, didrocks also mentioned doing python2.6 /usr/bin/bzr should work, IIRC
[16:24] <lamalex> oh really?
[16:24] <lamalex> didrocks, you are the man
[16:24] <lamalex> I would probably be dead without you
[16:24] <cyphermox> but YMMV if 2.7.1-0ubuntu4 doesn't work for you... maybe bzr has been uploaded to fix the issue and now you really need the new python :)
[16:25] <lamalex> i do updated regularly
[16:28] <lamalex> wow firefox test pilot tests are driving me crazy
[16:40] <lamalex> How close is banshee to landing by default?
[16:40] <lamalex> (or hasi t)
[16:40] <lamalex> cyphermox, ok I checked out unity
[16:41] <lamalex> do you have a branch of your code? I can take a look if you want
[16:47] <cyphermox> lamalex, not quite up to date, hold on (building right now)
[16:48] <lamalex> k
[16:59] <cyphermox> lamalex, lp:~mathieu-tl/unity/multimonitor
[16:59] <lamalex> Hi API
[16:59] <API> lamalex, hi
[17:00] <cyphermox> there's some experimentation in there too ;)
[17:00] <API> sorry, I forgot to add ayatana to my automatic-join list
[17:00] <API> lamalex, btw
[17:00] <lamalex> ;)
[17:00] <API> one question
[17:00] <API> compiling libcompizconfig
[17:00] <API> I get this error
[17:00] <API> "FindCompiz.cmake" file not found in cmake module directories.
[17:00] <API> It should be installed to allow building of external compiz packages.
[17:00] <API> Call "sudo make findcompiz_install" to install it.
[17:00] <API> when making the cmake phase
[17:01] <API> but then it compiles without problem
[17:01] <API> the issue is that I have FindCompiz.cmake
[17:01] <API> properly installed
[17:01] <lamalex> API, why are you compiling compiz anyway?
[17:01] <lamalex> do you have to make compiz changes for a11y?
[17:01] <API> well, this is what this guide says :https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/InstallationGuideFromSource
[17:01] <lamalex> ah
[17:01] <lamalex> that is probably out of date
[17:01] <lamalex> are you on natty?
[17:01] <API> it says that unity requires compiz with the glib
[17:01] <API> yes
[17:02] <lamalex> yeah, you can use the packaged natty
[17:02] <lamalex> packaged compiz in natty
[17:02] <API> ah ok
[17:02] <API> so I just need to compile nux and unity?
[17:03] <API> lamalex, because I still thing that some changes would be required to be done on nux
[17:03] <API> at least to make things easier
[17:17] <lamalex> haha, apparently i wasn't plugged in
[17:48] <jcastro> hi cando_
[17:51] <didrocks> lamalex: is there a dep on a very recent nux?
[17:51] <jcastro> lamalex: is bug #693792 bitesizeable?
[17:52] <lamalex> jcastro, not sure I haven't looked into the workings of it
[17:53] <lamalex> jcastro, I would imagine it's not terribly difficult
[17:53] <jcastro> k
[17:55] <lamalex> jcastro, it might even be related to the menus opening behind apps bug, but that is pure speculation
[17:55] <jcastro> k, I added it to the list just to give it some visibility
[17:58] <didrocks> lamalex: seems you didn't see that: is there a dep on a very recent nux from unity trunk?
[18:00] <lamalex> didrocks, um, i don't think so
[18:00] <lamalex> DBO, ^
[18:01] <lamalex> didrocks, not much (anything) has changed in trunk since pre-christmas
[18:02] <lamalex> we might dep on head at the moment though, let me check
[18:02] <didrocks> hum, I get /home/didrocks/work/unity/unity/show-menu-on-alt/src/Launcher.cpp: In member function ‘void Launcher::RestoreSystemRenderTarget()’:
[18:02] <didrocks> /home/didrocks/work/unity/unity/show-menu-on-alt/src/Launcher.cpp:2244:31: error: ‘class nux::WindowCompositor’ has no member named ‘RestoreRenderingSurface’
[18:04] <didrocks> and this one is pre-christmas, weird
[18:04] <lamalex> didrocks, the last nux commit is the 0.9.12 release
[18:05] <lamalex> which is also what's in natty
[18:05] <didrocks> why do I have that build issue then? weird
[18:05] <lamalex> do you have an old version of nux lurking somewhere maybe?
[18:05] <lamalex> or an old version of unity that's using some removed api?
[18:06] <lamalex> nux head definitely has a RestoreRenderingSurface method
[18:06] <cando_> jcastro, hi! here i am
[18:06] <jcastro> welcome back!
[18:07] <cando_> i'm sick...eheheh
[18:07] <didrocks> lamalex: any idea? if you try to compile trunk, it's working for you?
[18:08] <lamalex> didrocks, do you have nux from source or nux from package
[18:08] <cando_> jcastro, tell me
[18:09] <didrocks> lamalex: from package
[18:09] <lamalex> k
[18:09] <didrocks> with latest -dev and such
[18:09] <lamalex> didrocks, give me a minute to get set up. I got a new laptop over break and since bzr wasn't working I didn't build unity or anything
[18:10] <didrocks> ok :)
[18:10] <didrocks> thanks!
[18:13] <didrocks> lamalex: all is good, was my fault :)
[18:17] <cando_> jcastro, you here?
[18:17] <jcastro> yep
[18:17] <jcastro> sorry, what's up?
[18:20] <cando_> do you need me?
[18:21] <jcastro> cando_: no I was just saying hi/happy new year, etc.
[18:21] <cando_> jcastro, ahaha...thanks!!!!!!!^^
[18:21] <cando_> happy new year to you too!
[18:23] <cando_> have you enjoyed your party?? (if any... :) )
[18:23] <jcastro> I am thankfull I no longer have to entertain guests if that's what you mean, heh
[18:24] <lamalex> haha
[18:24] <cando_> lol
[18:25] <cando_> got to go dudes, ttyl
[18:34] <dbarth>  jcastro: hey Jorge, how is it going?
[18:35] <dbarth> jcastro: best wishes for the new year
[18:35] <jcastro> likewise
[18:35] <jcastro> you ready to rock?
[18:35] <dbarth> yeah, ready for 2011
[18:36] <dbarth> how's things with the bitesize bugs? is there something blocking or something we need to do?
[18:36] <dbarth> i've seend some really cool contributions in december so far
[18:37] <jcastro> (sec, on a call)
[18:37] <dbarth> ok, nw
[18:44] <lamalex> didrocks, I built
[18:44] <lamalex> no problem
[18:44] <lamalex> you must have it trying to use an old nux header somewhere
[18:51] <dbarth> hey DBO, what's the key again for intellihide?
[18:53] <jcastro> dbarth: things are going good, I'd like to see more of them, but *shrug*
[18:53] <jcastro> dbarth: I think post-A2 when the major plumbing is in place is when we'll really get rolling
[18:59] <didrocks> lamalex: thanks, have a nice evevning :)
[18:59] <lamalex> you too
[19:00] <dbarth> jcastro: ok
[19:00] <dbarth> jcastro: anyway, that also reminds me about api docs
[19:00] <dbarth> didrocks, ah gone...
[19:00] <jcastro> yes
[19:01] <dbarth> well, i'll assign him a bug anyway; that's sneaky i know
[19:01] <jcastro> dbarth: are api docs going on developer.ubuntu.com or on their own thing?
[19:13] <dbarth> jcastro: well, not sure what was the outcome of the discussion on that
[19:13] <dbarth> jcastro: i think i proposed to put that in u.u.c in a static zone
[19:14] <dbarth> jcastro: but the content can move everywhere it's needed; at the moment the main task is to organize the api docs
[20:14] <cyphermox> how can I force unity to redraw the panel and launcher (and probably desktop as well)? I can resize them, they react to mouse actions, but aren't drawn in the right place... I tried wt->RequestRedraw, NeedRedraw, damageNuxRegions... I can't seem to think of a way to have the old textures removed and redrawn elsewhere?
[20:37] <lamalex> DBO, ^^
[20:38] <DBO> werd
[20:38] <DBO> cyphermox, can you push a branch so I can see what you are doing?
[20:43] <jcastro> fagan: ok, now that you're back ... want some bugs? :)
[20:44] <fagan> jcastro: well I have to do my datastructures assignment over this week but im more or less free to do some bugs
[20:44] <fagan> :P
[20:44] <jcastro> anything in the topic would be most welcome!
[20:48] <fagan> that is unity running dbus service looks like a fun one to do
[20:56] <cyphermox> DBO: lp:~mathieu-tl/unity/multimonitor ; it's the point I'm at now...
[20:56] <DBO> cyphermox, thank you, will look at shortly
[20:57] <cyphermox> disregard how Relayout is getting called, I was trying other things in parallel :)
[21:04] <DBO> cyphermox, it looks to me like I'll need to kick nux a bit
[21:04] <DBO> thanks for bringing this to my attention
[21:08] <cyphermox> oh, really?
[21:09] <cyphermox> DBO, fwiw, I don't like the fact that in some places, we need to successively Disable and re-enable e.g. struts for them to be resized/reset. it feels like a hack... but that just my own opinion ;)
[21:10] <DBO> cyphermox, oh I agree
[21:10] <DBO> and I intend to fix that
[21:10] <DBO> the places where I do that are in fact marked "hack"
[21:10] <DBO> and if not they should be
[21:10] <cyphermox> the last thing I tried was ShowWindow (false, then true), but that didn't work any better ;)
[21:11] <cyphermox> so, what's missing?
[21:12] <DBO> I need to make nux remember the states you set and ensure they are correct
[21:12] <DBO> so like if you enable a input window, enable struts, then disable and re-enable the input window
[21:12] <DBO> the struts dont get re-enabled
[21:12] <DBO> because its not aware of the silliness
[21:14] <cyphermox> anything I can help with?
[21:15] <DBO> not right now, it would take me longer to explain than fix
[21:15] <DBO> just been doin other things :)
[21:15] <DBO> I am going to do it today because it now effects more than me :)
[21:38] <coz_> anyone know if this has been reported?   natty daily...7600gt nvidia.. reboot after install " monitor out of range"   swap with 6600gt nvidia  everything is fine  ??
[22:06] <lamalex> indicators are not a good match for weather :\