| jjesse | DarkwingDuck ping you around | 03:39 |
|---|---|---|
| jjesse | DarkwingDuck just wondering if you have had any work done on kubuntu-docs | 03:40 |
| * apachelogger yawns uncontrolled | 04:07 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: your not going to bed makes me also not go to bed | 04:07 |
| apachelogger | this is outrages! | 04:07 |
| * vorian needs to start helping again | 04:10 | |
| * apachelogger hugs vorian | 04:10 | |
| apachelogger | not sure if that helps | 04:10 |
| * apachelogger is too tired to help himself get to bed, so... ;) | 04:10 | |
| vorian | woot, it the helps! \o/ | 04:11 |
| vorian | nini | 04:11 |
| apachelogger | vorian: are you going to bed already? | 04:11 |
| vorian | na | 04:11 |
| vorian | got a few hours yet | 04:11 |
| apachelogger | oh, I see, you mistook my whining for me actually doing something about it ^^ | 04:11 |
| vorian | hehe | 04:12 |
| * apachelogger notes that shadeslayer stays up to 4 so apachelogger needs to stay up til 9 or so | 04:12 | |
| apachelogger | which could be a problem since I have a meeting at noon ^^ | 04:12 |
| vorian | I stay up til 12 mountain standard time | 04:12 |
| vorian | which is like 6 | 04:12 |
| apachelogger | oh, this is confusing | 04:13 |
| apachelogger | whoever inveted time must have been on crack | 04:13 |
| vorian | my vps is british | 04:14 |
| vorian | so, it's a tad easier to keep track | 04:14 |
| apachelogger | hm, why is it british though? | 04:14 |
| vorian | cost | 04:14 |
| * apachelogger kicks his kubuntu mobile install for building kernel modules against the wrong kernel | 04:15 | |
| vorian | it was the cheepest and fastest | 04:15 |
| apachelogger | fair enough :) | 04:15 |
| vorian | yus, totally worth it | 04:15 |
| vorian | all I need is to get my macbook kubuntu bugs worked out | 04:15 |
| * vorian thinks external mouse is the key | 04:16 | |
| apachelogger | vorian: that would be a way to start helping again I suppose? :) | 04:16 |
| vorian | yus! | 04:16 |
| * apachelogger made ktown explode earlier | 04:17 | |
| apachelogger | should I meet with an "accident" you know why | 04:17 |
| vorian | oh god, my ssh key is gone | 04:17 |
| apachelogger | vorian: did a wookie eat it? | 04:18 |
| vorian | who do I contact about my svn account | 04:18 |
| apachelogger | valorie: ping | 04:18 |
| apachelogger | vorian: kde svn? | 04:18 |
| vorian | yus | 04:18 |
| apachelogger | sysadmins | 04:18 |
| apachelogger | see footer of bugs.kde.org | 04:18 |
| vorian | okie dokie | 04:18 |
| apachelogger | might be that this stuff is now handled via identity.kde.org though | 04:18 |
| apachelogger | so you should first update that to make things go faster | 04:19 |
| apachelogger | then they technically should just need to run some syn script I understand | 04:19 |
| vorian | I see | 04:19 |
| * vorian is trying identity right now | 04:19 | |
| vorian | no matching email :/ | 04:21 |
| apachelogger | :O | 04:21 |
| apachelogger | sec | 04:21 |
| apachelogger | stalcup Steve Stalcup vorian@kubuntu.org | 04:22 |
| vorian | oh noes | 04:22 |
| * vorian has no @kubuntu any more | 04:22 | |
| apachelogger | then just file a sysadmin request | 04:24 |
| vorian | on irc or on bugs? | 04:26 |
| apachelogger | vorian: bugs | 04:26 |
| vorian | kk | 04:26 |
| apachelogger | though I suppose irc is fine too if someone has time | 04:26 |
| * apachelogger reboot kubuntu mobile and hopes it will not explode | 04:26 | |
| vorian | I'll do bugs | 04:26 |
| apachelogger | hahaha | 04:28 |
| apachelogger | rofl | 04:28 |
| apachelogger | silly kde login sound on n900 | 04:28 |
| apachelogger | this is epic :D | 04:28 |
| apachelogger | openssh just ate my n900 -.- | 04:41 |
| valorie | apachelogger: pong | 04:49 |
| apachelogger | valorie: are you running phonon-gstreamer now? | 04:49 |
| valorie | not at this second, but I will switch if you like | 04:50 |
| apachelogger | would be good to have testing of the git version | 04:50 |
| valorie | oh, I didn't build it yet | 04:50 |
| valorie | so I have only the packaged version | 04:50 |
| valorie | are you done with your git commit madness? | 04:51 |
| valorie | which I enjoyed btw | 04:51 |
| valorie | do I need to also build Gstreamer? | 04:51 |
| valorie | or will phonon-gst work with Gst from packages? | 04:51 |
| apachelogger | no gstreamer needed | 04:52 |
| apachelogger | we are not qtgstreamer, we actually consider what users and distros will have already avilable :P | 04:52 |
| apachelogger | actually phonon-gst should even compile on stable debian | 04:53 |
| apachelogger | i.e. super old gstreamer ;) | 04:53 |
| valorie | ok | 04:53 |
| apachelogger | like ancient | 04:53 |
| vorian | from this moment on I am 100% Kubuntu/KDE | 04:56 |
| * apachelogger hugs vorian and valorie | 04:57 | |
| * apachelogger is soon 100% fedora, but no one must know about this | 04:58 | |
| apachelogger | oh, I actually wrote that | 04:58 |
| apachelogger | whoops | 04:58 |
| valorie | lol | 04:59 |
| valorie | apachelogger: is the git address git://anongit.kde.org/phonon-gstreamer ? | 05:01 |
| apachelogger | yes | 05:01 |
| valorie | danke | 05:01 |
| apachelogger | de rien | 05:01 |
| valorie | and cmake .. -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr is the same? | 05:03 |
| * apachelogger yep | 05:03 | |
| apachelogger | valorie: you might need apt-get build-dep phonon | 05:03 |
| valorie | ah | 05:04 |
| valorie | because: | 05:04 |
| valorie | :~/kde/src/phonon-gstreamer/build$ sudo make install | 05:04 |
| valorie | make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop. | 05:04 |
| apachelogger | valorie: you should always read what cmake had to say :) | 05:04 |
| apachelogger | usually it will tell you at the bottom if something went wrong | 05:04 |
| valorie | ok, did the build-dep, but it's still saying that it doesn't have a target for install? | 05:06 |
| apachelogger | you need to rerun cmake | 05:06 |
| valorie | ok | 05:06 |
| valorie | of course, duh! | 05:07 |
| * apachelogger will now break his newly created kubuntu mobile | 05:07 | |
| valorie | Congratulations! All external packages have been found. | 05:07 |
| valorie | :-) | 05:07 |
| * apachelogger congratulates pyth0rn on eating his cpu | 05:09 | |
| vorian | I love that | 05:10 |
| valorie | when I run | 05:10 |
| valorie | kbuildsycoca4 running... | 05:10 |
| valorie | kbuildsycoca4(8877) KConfigGroup::readXdgListEntry: List entry Categories in "/usr/share/applications/im-switch.desktop" is not compliant with XDG standard (missing trailing semicolon). | 05:10 |
| valorie | always get that same error | 05:10 |
| vorian | easy fixor | 05:10 |
| valorie | someone should add that trailing semicolon | 05:11 |
| valorie | lol | 05:11 |
| * apachelogger wonders what silly thin im-switch could be | 05:11 | |
| * valorie switches to gst and amarok crashes.... | 05:11 | |
| apachelogger | well | 05:12 |
| apachelogger | that is a phonon bug | 05:12 |
| apachelogger | will be fixed in 4.5 | 05:12 |
| apachelogger | as backend switching will no longer will be done instantly | 05:12 |
| apachelogger | but only on app restart | 05:12 |
| valorie | I did update phonon, vlc, phonon-vlc before I built gst | 05:13 |
| valorie | normally I do quit and restart | 05:13 |
| valorie | backend switching has never worked well unless I do | 05:13 |
| apachelogger | I know | 05:14 |
| apachelogger | because it requires code on the backend part | 05:14 |
| apachelogger | and that was only ever implemented for xine | 05:14 |
| valorie | well, shit | 05:14 |
| valorie | gst crashes as soon as I press play | 05:15 |
| valorie | :( | 05:15 |
| apachelogger | get output then | 05:15 |
| apachelogger | as I asked in that bug :P | 05:15 |
| apachelogger | because I only know you crash as absolutely random | 05:15 |
| valorie | amarok: [ERROR__] [MySqlStorage] "GREPME MySQLe query failed! (1030) Got error 9 from storage engine on INSERT INTO directories(deviceid,changedate,dir) VALUES (-1,1290229287,'./home/valorie/Music/Sara Bareilles/');" | 05:15 |
| apachelogger | and never ever reproducible | 05:15 |
| valorie | this is a new one | 05:15 |
| apachelogger | oh | 05:15 |
| valorie | haven't ever seen that before | 05:16 |
| apachelogger | that is not from phonon :P | 05:16 |
| apachelogger | phew | 05:16 |
| valorie | nope | 05:16 |
| valorie | I'll run in gdb, since Dr. K was unable to start up | 05:16 |
| apachelogger | well | 05:16 |
| apachelogger | I doubt that will help with that sort of error | 05:17 |
| apachelogger | as the error probably caused the crash | 05:17 |
| apachelogger | its fun to stay at the ymca | 05:17 |
| valorie | Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. | 05:19 |
| valorie | Phonon::Gstreamer::Backend::logMessage (this=0x0, message=..., priority=2, obj=0x9c0c00) | 05:19 |
| valorie | at ../../gstreamer/backend.cpp:466 | 05:19 |
| valorie | 466 ../../gstreamer/backend.cpp: No such file or directory. | 05:19 |
| valorie | in ../../gstreamer/backend.cpp | 05:19 |
| valorie | sec | 05:19 |
| apachelogger | hm | 05:19 |
| * apachelogger has tab overload | 05:19 | |
| valorie | that was right before the crash | 05:22 |
| apachelogger | what is odd about this is that this is 0 | 05:23 |
| valorie | bt: http://pastebin.ca/2037500 | 05:23 |
| apachelogger | yeah, that is not useful in this cse | 05:24 |
| valorie | :( | 05:24 |
| apachelogger | valorie: debug output is what I need :) | 05:24 |
| * apachelogger needs to know why this is 0 | 05:24 | |
| apachelogger | oh | 05:24 |
| apachelogger | ehm | 05:24 |
| apachelogger | yes | 05:24 |
| valorie | well, I added those lines to my rc file | 05:24 |
| apachelogger | valorie: not rc | 05:24 |
| apachelogger | in a shell | 05:24 |
| apachelogger | you need to run the exports | 05:25 |
| apachelogger | and then start amarok | 05:25 |
| valorie | ok, will do | 05:25 |
| apachelogger | export sets an envrionmental variable for the shell | 05:25 |
| apachelogger | which is then inherited by any application you start in that shell | 05:25 |
| apachelogger | consequently amarok (and thus phonon as it is part of amarok's context) get the vars | 05:25 |
| valorie | very quick crash, and Dr. K is getting the bt | 05:27 |
| valorie | should I post it in that bug? | 05:27 |
| valorie | or pastebin | 05:27 |
| apachelogger | valorie: I need the console output | 05:28 |
| apachelogger | backtrace is always the same anyway | 05:28 |
| valorie | oh, ok | 05:29 |
| valorie | http://pastebin.ca/2037504 | 05:30 |
| valorie | I think it's missing the beginning of the output though | 05:30 |
| valorie | that was as much as I could get | 05:30 |
| apachelogger | hmmmm | 05:34 |
| apachelogger | "PGST(1): Source type not currently supported (MediaObject 0x205be80)" | 05:34 |
| apachelogger | "PGST(2): Begin source load (MediaObject 0x205be80)" | 05:34 |
| apachelogger | lets see | 05:35 |
| apachelogger | oh | 05:39 |
| apachelogger | I cannot get rid of mp3 support | 05:39 |
| apachelogger | thats a first | 05:39 |
| apachelogger | aha! | 05:40 |
| apachelogger | ha! | 05:40 |
| apachelogger | hahaha! | 05:40 |
| apachelogger | valorie: got it | 05:40 |
| apachelogger | bingo | 05:40 |
| apachelogger | kaboom | 05:40 |
| apachelogger | valorie: missing mp3 support is the cause of evil | 05:41 |
| apachelogger | not that I had the slightest idea what is going wrong internally that causes the crash | 05:41 |
| apachelogger | but I can reproduce it | 05:41 |
| apachelogger | valorie: thanks for the log | 05:42 |
| Kubuntiac | I notice on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo "Ensure we have latest KOffice, KDevelop, Amarok etc" | 07:24 |
| Kubuntiac | Packages just came out for Koffice... 2.30 beta. So the plan is still to get 2.3 Final in for Natty? | 07:25 |
| Kubuntiac | (at least I assume 2.30b = 2.3 beta) | 07:25 |
| valorie | so to continue on what apachelogger and I were doing -- crash is instant if I try to play an mp3 without the needed codecs for the gst backend | 07:26 |
| valorie | they aren't in kubuntu-restricted-extras | 07:27 |
| valorie | and I suggest they be put there | 07:27 |
| Kubuntiac | +1 | 07:27 |
| valorie | if gst and vlc are going to be the suggested | 07:27 |
| valorie | AND, maybe that package should be recommended with installation of the backend | 07:28 |
| valorie | since most people want to play mp3 | 07:28 |
| valorie | I usually play ogg, but these happen to be mp3 | 07:28 |
| valorie | since everyone is asleep, I guess I'll write to the devel list | 07:29 |
| === hunger_ is now known as hunger | ||
| ghostcube | happy new year to all :) | 11:17 |
| valorie | happy new year to you, ghostcube | 11:18 |
| valorie | I'm just trying out spideroak for backup | 11:19 |
| valorie | kpackagekit couldn't install it | 11:20 |
| ScottK | Kubuntiac: 2.30b (for koffice) is 2.30 final, it just took a couple of tries to get to the final tars. | 11:59 |
| * ScottK marked the bug for KDE SC 4.4.5 update in Lucid "verification-done". | 12:17 | |
| * ScottK waits for pitti to copy it to -updates and crosses fingers. | 12:17 | |
| vorian | 13 | 13:03 |
| shadeslayer | 14 | 13:43 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 13:43 |
| rbelem | afiestas, ping | 13:48 |
| shadeslayer | googles spam filter is the fail | 13:57 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: I got the nightly build stuff ~working, but no luck getting it to do parallel builds (I think if I got that ice cream would work). | 14:01 |
| ScottK | note: didn't make a debian package for it yet, just beating on the upstream scripts (from kdesvn) | 14:01 |
| afiestas | rbelem: pong | 14:10 |
| ScottK | afiestas: Have you gotten a chance to work on the X config stuff we discussed with RAOF yet? | 14:11 |
| afiestas | nope :/ | 14:11 |
| ScottK | OK. | 14:11 |
| rbelem | afiestas, what do you think should I do about the nfs fileshare? | 14:11 |
| afiestas | well, I don't have a strong opinion about nfs right now | 14:12 |
| afiestas | but I do think that would be nice to improve the feature instead of removing it | 14:12 |
| Riddell | I'm all for scrapping the NFS code, it's ugly, unused and a potential security risk | 14:13 |
| afiestas | well, maybe we can rework it | 14:13 |
| ScottK | afiestas: I think "Use system NFS mounts" is a reasonable answer. | 14:13 |
| afiestas | for example, by using KAuth+mount so no ugly suids are installed | 14:14 |
| Riddell | why? NFS isn't ment to be a user protocol | 14:14 |
| Riddell | better to use protocols which are designed for the job like SMB and webdav | 14:14 |
| rbelem | to make it more secure we need ipsec, nfsv4 and changes on /etc/hosts.{allow,deny} | 14:14 |
| rbelem | Riddell, i already started to add the webdav support :-) | 14:15 |
| Riddell | ooh? | 14:15 |
| Riddell | how? | 14:15 |
| afiestas | rbelem: all I said was "Just let's take 5min before remove anything" | 14:16 |
| afiestas | if you already did (as it seems) go ahead :p | 14:16 |
| Riddell | I mean it'll need a server first with an interface for adding and removing shares | 14:17 |
| rbelem | Riddell, starting apache on unprivileged port with mdns module :-) | 14:17 |
| freinhard | hi! | 14:17 |
| Riddell | rbelem: that sounds clever | 14:18 |
| rbelem | Riddell, by default it shares the ~/Public | 14:18 |
| Riddell | hi freinhard | 14:18 |
| rbelem | Riddell, i took a look in the gnome implementation :-D | 14:18 |
| rbelem | afiestas, i already removed, but if most of people vote for nfs to stay I can update the patch | 14:19 |
| freinhard | anyone packaging digikam 1.7.0 for beta-backports | 14:20 |
| rbelem | afiestas, btw gnome removed nfs fileshare some time ago | 14:21 |
| Riddell | freinhard: not that I know of | 14:22 |
| ScottK | Gnome removes all kind of useful stuff. Even though I agree in this case, that's not much of a reason. | 14:22 |
| rbelem | eheh :-D | 14:22 |
| Riddell | rbelem: do you need me to get the patch into svn? | 14:23 |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| Quintasan | \o | 14:24 |
| rbelem | Riddell, nope :-) I just need run some tests | 14:24 |
| rbelem | Riddell, the first patch, ksambashare, is already there :-D \o/ \o/ \o/ | 14:24 |
| rbelem | Riddell, afiestas, i will send a mail to the nfs thread saying that i'm going ahead to remove it, ok? | 14:27 |
| Riddell | rbelem: good with me | 14:29 |
| Riddell | rbelem: can you e-mail me the patches then to include in our packages and I'll get those in on Wednesday | 14:29 |
| afiestas | rbelem: +1 | 14:29 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: did you see sehytans kcm mockup for sharing? | 14:29 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, nope | 14:30 |
| Riddell | I haven't seen sheytan for a while | 14:30 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: that is because you were not around this weekend :P | 14:30 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: http://i.imgur.com/eYxQm.png | 14:31 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: he was around yesterday | 14:32 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, nice! :-D | 14:33 |
| ScottK | Riddell: This is a reminder about having a chat with cjwatson re how to deal with seeds for kubuntu/kubuntu-mobile. I think I'm close to wanting to make a kubuntu-mobile-n900 metapackage and it'd be nice to know the general plan first. | 14:33 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: I was sort of suggesting that you will now implement that :P | 14:33 |
| === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - 2011 same procedure as every year: 2 releases and many hugs | Lots to do https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | ||
| Riddell | ScottK: yes, still have that on my mind, can also add to my wednesday todo list | 14:34 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Thanks. | 14:34 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, but some stuff are a little bit complicated, like cd/dvd sharing | 14:34 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, need to check which are possible | 14:35 |
| apachelogger | yeah, scratch that | 14:35 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: primarily having the interface would be good ;) | 14:36 |
| apachelogger | even when limited to smb provided sharing services | 14:36 |
| apachelogger | (namely file and print) | 14:36 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, for internet connection share, connman manages better. It has a an iptables module | 14:36 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, :-D | 14:36 |
| apachelogger | we should just use connman :P | 14:37 |
| apachelogger | for all of kubuntu | 14:37 |
| apachelogger | our users will love us | 14:37 |
| apachelogger | first we introduce broken nm integration, then we swtich to broken connman integration :D :D :D | 14:37 |
| ScottK | Ubuntu will eventually switch, so we need to start thinking about it. | 14:37 |
| apachelogger | oh noes | 14:37 |
| apachelogger | how will we find someone wicked enough to do the porting | 14:38 |
| rbelem | ScottK, when will we talk to cjwatson? | 14:38 |
| apachelogger | OTOH IIRC meego has some sort of connman qt library | 14:38 |
| ScottK | rbelem: I think Riddell will handle it. | 14:38 |
| rbelem | ScottK, cool :-) | 14:38 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: They must have something since that's the target it's developed for. | 14:38 |
| apachelogger | yeah, just wondering how much use that would be to us | 14:39 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, ScottK, i'm working with connman bluetooth | 14:40 |
| ScottK | Nice. | 14:40 |
| rbelem | tomorrow I could feedback about the qt interface for it | 14:41 |
| === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna | ||
| ScottK | Riddell: I was thinking about all the -dev depends we add to kdepim-dev. Now that we build with "ld --no-add-needed", I think we ought to drop that. Any packages that need those -dev packages will have to explicitly link against them and should have them in their build-depends directly. | 15:11 |
| ScottK | Meh. Nevermind. | 15:15 |
| ScottK | I was thinking of something else. | 15:15 |
| dantti | Riddell: hey :) did you got my message about a Qt patch? | 16:21 |
| Riddell | dantti: don't think so | 16:35 |
| dantti | Riddell: http://pastebin.com/Sic7X8jV | 16:36 |
| dantti | Riddell: kpackagekit crashes when there is a huge list, and david faure traced the bug to this spot, he said he would open a bug in Qt but while it's not fixed.... | 16:37 |
| Riddell | thanks dantti, will take a look on wednesday | 16:47 |
| === dbarth__ is now known as dbarth | ||
| === dbarth is now known as davidbarth | ||
| === davidbarth is now known as dbarth | ||
| === dbarth is now known as davidbarth | ||
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: group selection using ctrl in muon would be nice | 16:50 |
| droidslayer | apachelogger: QML is the shit | 16:52 |
| apachelogger | how so? | 16:52 |
| hunger | droidslayer: shit or hit? | 16:52 |
| droidslayer | uses ETOOMUCHMEMORY | 16:52 |
| droidslayer | hunger: former | 16:52 |
| maco | wait... "the shit" or "shit"? because these are opposite things | 16:52 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: yeah that's on the todo list. Requires a bit of changing on how the details for each package are activated | 16:52 |
| hunger | droidslayer: I guess it depends a lot on how it is used. | 16:53 |
| droidslayer | apachelogger: apparently it will use a new JS engine every time a new tab page is opened | 16:54 |
| apachelogger | droidslayer: how is that? | 16:54 |
| apachelogger | depends on how it is implemented one would suppose | 16:54 |
| droidslayer | apachelogger: js engine is not reusable | 16:54 |
| apachelogger | but generally I would assume that every tab embeds their own qwebgraphics thing | 16:54 |
| apachelogger | and separated js makes sense anyway | 16:55 |
| apachelogger | for security reasons | 16:55 |
| apachelogger | hm | 16:58 |
| apachelogger | hmmmmm | 16:59 |
| apachelogger | mgraesslin: what happens when one builds kwin-gles with both gl and gles installed? | 16:59 |
| * apachelogger notes that currently Qt will drag in gl | 16:59 | |
| mgraesslin | gles is picked | 16:59 |
| mgraesslin | no problem works with mesa | 16:59 |
| mgraesslin | I don't understand why, but it works | 16:59 |
| apachelogger | ok | 16:59 |
| apachelogger | ^^ | 16:59 |
| mgraesslin | my ultimative plan is to make the compositor a library which is built ones against GL and once against GLES | 17:00 |
| apachelogger | that would sound handy | 17:00 |
| mgraesslin | and then have an external app to try which one works and pick the right one at runtime | 17:00 |
| apachelogger | *nod* | 17:00 |
| apachelogger | ahh | 17:07 |
| apachelogger | ctest | 17:07 |
| apachelogger | meh | 17:07 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: BTW, my KDE nightly build seems to be ice creaming now. | 17:11 |
| apachelogger | sweet | 17:11 |
| apachelogger | so we only need to make it work without you giving the scripts a beatin' :D | 17:11 |
| ScottK | I'm going to have to get a bigger hard drive though. | 17:12 |
| ScottK | yes | 17:12 |
| CIA-39 | [muon] jmthomas * 1211320 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/Application.cpp Don't bother creating a temporary named variable in this function | 17:28 |
| highvoltage | ice creaming \o/ | 17:28 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| apachelogger | ScottK: as long as it is fast :D | 17:41 |
| * apachelogger is wondering why the kwin-gles build runs ctest | 17:42 | |
| ScottK | apachelogger: I'll probably leave /var/cache on the 16 GB USB stick on that machine and then add an external HD to one of the others to host the nightly builds. | 17:42 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: do you want to do nightlies on box1? | 17:43 |
| * apachelogger would do nightlies on box3 with -j3 | 17:43 | |
| ScottK | apachelogger: It doesn't matter much which it is, we just need to pick one. | 17:43 |
| * apachelogger would also ask a minion to write a script for the nightly builds | 17:43 | |
| apachelogger | ScottK: box3 | 17:44 |
| apachelogger | my screen names box 3 KDE 1 or somesuch ^^ | 17:44 |
| ScottK | OK. | 17:44 |
| ScottK | The one at .101. | 17:44 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: 110 | 17:45 |
| ScottK | Right. | 17:45 |
| ScottK | OK. I meant .111 in any case, but .110 is fine. | 17:45 |
| apachelogger | 111 is slave to 110, clearly :D | 17:45 |
| ScottK | ;-) | 17:47 |
| apachelogger | mgraesslin: do you also get ctest when building kwin-gles? | 17:59 |
| mgraesslin | ctest? | 18:00 |
| yofel | hm, anyone an idea why our natty bootsplash looks like it can't do anti-aliasing? http://yofel.dyndns.org/pics/ext/20110103_002.jpg | 18:06 |
| CIA-39 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1211331 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/CMakeLists.txt Version bump for the impending 1.0.5 release | 18:07 |
| maco | Riddell: the bug that https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debootstrap/+bug/673038 was blocking on was fixed a day after you commented | 18:08 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 673038 in debootstrap (Ubuntu Lucid) "Add (Ubuntu) natty as a symlink to gutsy." [Undecided,New] | 18:08 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: I like how precise releaseme is: "fr"=>85.9934853420195 | 18:10 |
| ScottK | maco: Are you in PA or DC these days? | 18:10 |
| maco | ScottK: today im in NY. tonight i'll be in PA. thursday & friday I'll be in MD for a job interview | 18:11 |
| ScottK | maco: Next time you're in the area on a weekend you might want to check out http://bookthing.org/ - My wife took me there last weekend and it was pretty cool. | 18:12 |
| ScottK | crimsun: ^^^ You too. | 18:12 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: you could do matrices magic with it ;) | 18:13 |
| apachelogger | maco: in PA, are you visiting lennart? | 18:13 |
| apachelogger | :D :D :D :D | 18:13 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Wrong PA. | 18:13 |
| apachelogger | aww | 18:13 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: sorting by name in a search still does not work btw | 18:31 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: omg omg | 18:31 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i haz a blog | 18:31 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: it sorts by relevance | 18:31 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: kshadeslayer.wordpress.com | 18:31 |
| apachelogger | does it feature nakkid pics? | 18:31 |
| shadeslayer | a empty blog | 18:32 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 18:32 |
| apachelogger | that is jolly boring :P | 18:32 |
| shadeslayer | i also own rohangarg.wordpress.com | 18:32 |
| shadeslayer | altho i never got around to using that domain name | 18:32 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: yeah, but if the arrow thingy in the top bar indicates that it is sorted by name then it shall be sorting by name | 18:32 |
| apachelogger | additionally someone who knows what he is looking for will not care about relevance as that is completely bogus at times | 18:32 |
| apachelogger | like with gstreamer ;) | 18:33 |
| JontheEchidna | but I can't sort by relevance unless sorting is enabled | 18:33 |
| apachelogger | dbgsyms apparently have a higher relevance than plugins | 18:33 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: well, it still is false indication | 18:33 |
| apachelogger | maybe add a column with relevance? | 18:34 |
| JontheEchidna | but that would be an empty column | 18:34 |
| apachelogger | you cannot query the relevance? | 18:34 |
| apachelogger | I mean | 18:34 |
| apachelogger | what are you sorting by? | 18:34 |
| JontheEchidna | the relevance of the search terms as returned by the xapian search | 18:35 |
| apachelogger | and that cannot be stuffed into a column? | 18:35 |
| JontheEchidna | there isn't anything to stuff | 18:35 |
| JontheEchidna | it's the order the packages are returned in | 18:35 |
| apachelogger | nice | 18:35 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: well | 18:35 |
| apachelogger | that is information, is it not? :P | 18:36 |
| JontheEchidna | ....which is shown by placing the packages in the proper order | 18:36 |
| apachelogger | relevance: {1000,999, 998...} | 18:36 |
| JontheEchidna | It would probably be better to change the column name | 18:36 |
| JontheEchidna | than to place another column with useless info | 18:37 |
| apachelogger | well | 18:37 |
| apachelogger | it would still not allow sorting by name | 18:37 |
| * apachelogger cannot use relveance sorting | 18:37 | |
| apachelogger | impossible to find anything with ddebs repo enabled | 18:37 |
| dantti | Riddell: please upload it with kde 4.6 and maybe natty :D http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=84745 | 18:41 |
| shadeslayer | so like .... | 18:42 |
| shadeslayer | its official | 18:42 |
| shadeslayer | i wont be attending next UDS :P | 18:42 |
| shadeslayer | blame this : http://www.itmindia.edu/academiccalendar/Detailed%20even%20sem%20%20Academic%20calendar%20for%20MDU%20%202010-11.pdf | 18:43 |
| highvoltage | shadeslayer: hmm? | 18:43 |
| * apachelogger blames this | 18:43 | |
| highvoltage | ah, stupid school! | 18:43 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 18:44 |
| shadeslayer | exams right during UDS | 18:44 |
| shadeslayer | i cannot get these postponed ^_^ | 18:45 |
| CIA-39 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1211342 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/CMakeLists.txt Forgot to bump this | 18:48 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you are just afraid | 18:51 |
| === sresu_ is now known as sresu | ||
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: you need a bumper script | 19:02 |
| * apachelogger notes that releaseme2 with its improved hook capabilities will be able to do that sorta stuff ^^ | 19:02 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: otoh i can go to conf.kde.in | 19:05 |
| shadeslayer | i can bunk the college fest :> | 19:05 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: yeah, but there is no ScottK to assign you work :P | 19:05 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: :P | 19:05 |
| shadeslayer | he can assign me work over IRC :P | 19:06 |
| apachelogger | which is not very effective as you are always busy :P | 19:06 |
| * apachelogger just wanted to :wq the ubuntu wiki :O | 19:09 | |
| apachelogger | I should have gone to bed earlier | 19:09 |
| * yofel wonders what he broke now... | 19:11 | |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Going to conf.kde.in would be nice. Coming back with something useful accomplished would be even better. Please plan on demoing kubuntu-mobile on your n900. | 19:13 |
| apachelogger | :D | 19:14 |
| apachelogger | lovely | 19:14 |
| === jjesse__ is now known as jjesse | ||
| apachelogger | ScottK: when will we get dailies for kubuntu-mobile natty? | 19:23 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Someone would need to set that up. | 19:23 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Do you mean ISO images? | 19:24 |
| apachelogger | well | 19:25 |
| apachelogger | img images | 19:25 |
| apachelogger | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-mobile/ports/daily-preinstalled/current/ | 19:25 |
| ScottK | Ah. Right. | 19:27 |
| ScottK | I think that needs cjwatson back from vacation. | 19:28 |
| ScottK | I'll talk to him about that after Riddell talks to him about seeds. | 19:28 |
| apachelogger | kthx | 19:31 |
| maco | hrmph | 19:33 |
| maco | im making a natty pbuilder and its stuck on I: Unpacking makedev... | 19:33 |
| apachelogger | this issue is unkown to apachelogger | 19:39 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: oh, we probably need to clone the pbuilder setup from box1 to kde1 | 19:45 |
| ScottK | Certainly. | 19:46 |
| ScottK | Need to get the new hard drive first. | 19:46 |
| apachelogger | also I am not sure we have the no sync() hook yet | 19:46 |
| apachelogger | which should be very healty for arm | 19:46 |
| ScottK | That would be nice. | 19:47 |
| * apachelogger gives the upgrade to natty one last chance | 19:47 | |
| * apachelogger hopes that the n900 battery will last long enough :D | 19:47 | |
| apachelogger | doesnt seem to charge over usb with our kernel | 19:48 |
| apachelogger | Checking for a new ubuntu release | 19:50 |
| apachelogger | No new release found | 19:50 |
| apachelogger | right | 19:50 |
| apachelogger | -.- | 19:50 |
| CIA-39 | [muon] jmthomas * 1211351 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/AvailableView.cpp We don't use this pointer at any other time in this function other than stuffing it into a list, so don't bother giving it a name. | 19:53 |
| CIA-39 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1211352 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/backend.cpp SVN_SILENT: Whitespace | 19:55 |
| apachelogger | -rw-r--r-- 1 me me 8.5M Jan 3 20:59 ../kde-window-manager-gles_0.0+gita5cba06-0ubuntu1_i386.deb | 20:00 |
| apachelogger | :D | 20:00 |
| apachelogger | mgraesslin: ^ | 20:00 |
| mgraesslin | :-D | 20:00 |
| mgraesslin | awesome | 20:01 |
| Quintasan | lol I quit facebook | 20:01 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: boring | 20:01 |
| apachelogger | mgraesslin: does it need solid, ksysguard and all that plunder? | 20:02 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: facebook, or quitting it? | 20:02 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: both | 20:02 |
| mgraesslin | I'm not sure what KWin actually needs | 20:02 |
| apachelogger | ^^ | 20:02 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: You get beer at UDS | 20:02 |
| mgraesslin | it should work without ksysguard and solid | 20:02 |
| mgraesslin | it needs kworkspace libs | 20:03 |
| apachelogger | hm | 20:03 |
| apachelogger | mgraesslin: but it could just use the regular kworkkspace lib? | 20:03 |
| mgraesslin | yes | 20:03 |
| apachelogger | ok | 20:03 |
| mgraesslin | everything regular should be fine | 20:03 |
| apachelogger | need to look into this tomorrow then | 20:03 |
| CIA-39 | [muon] jmthomas * 1211356 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/muon/icons/hi256-app-muon.png optimizegraphics: Losslessly optimized PNG and SVGZ files with "optipng -o5" and "advdef -z -4". Reduced disk space: 4KB (0MB) | 20:09 |
| sheytan | apachelogger you like new stuff, right?:D | 20:31 |
| sheytan | shadeslayer you too, right? :D | 20:31 |
| Quintasan | give it give it | 20:31 |
| sheytan | Quintasan, apachelogger, shadeslayer: me wish this in kubuntu: http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7826/firstrun.jpg | 20:32 |
| * apachelogger smashes his keyboard | 20:33 | |
| Quintasan | oh easy | 20:33 |
| Quintasan | get apachelogger to code it in Python | 20:33 |
| apachelogger | this insane flipping darth vader damn crap shoot pyth0rn | 20:33 |
| Quintasan | sheytan: ^ | 20:33 |
| apachelogger | I shall eat them all | 20:33 |
| apachelogger | and then poops all over the other pyth0rns | 20:33 |
| * apachelogger stops doing mobile shit for today as everything in you bun too is made out of pyth0rn and thus not working | 20:34 | |
| apachelogger | sheytan: not gonna happen | 20:34 |
| sheytan | why? :( | 20:34 |
| apachelogger | sheytan: hurts user experience | 20:34 |
| Quintasan | sheytan: logic, he will code it within few hours | 20:34 |
| * maco gives apachelogger cookies with sugary sprinkles on top | 20:34 | |
| apachelogger | that should be done while installation | 20:34 |
| apachelogger | not between installation and first use | 20:35 |
| sheytan | apachelogger this sure can be there | 20:35 |
| sheytan | no matter for me | 20:35 |
| sheytan | matter is that installer will allow this | 20:35 |
| apachelogger | well | 20:35 |
| apachelogger | the you bun too installer did this (at leasf ro a while) | 20:35 |
| apachelogger | with windows settings at least | 20:35 |
| apachelogger | so it is absolutely possible | 20:35 |
| sheytan | imagine you can transfer all KDE settings (desktop, apps) to your new installation. How easier it would be for us | 20:35 |
| apachelogger | roman just needs to implement it ;) | 20:35 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: Ain't the installer Python magic as well? | 20:36 |
| apachelogger | which is why I am not going to touch it | 20:36 |
| apachelogger | even the upgrade thing refuses to do anything | 20:36 |
| Quintasan | I always though Python stuff is apachelogger's area of expertise | 20:36 |
| apachelogger | ah | 20:36 |
| apachelogger | the launchpad login experience | 20:37 |
| apachelogger | awesome | 20:37 |
| Quintasan | [trollface] | 20:37 |
| apachelogger | it is like awesome | 20:37 |
| apachelogger | or like awesome | 20:37 |
| Quintasan | OHSHI- KDEBINDINGS ARE BUILDING | 20:37 |
| apachelogger | sheytan: shtylman@gmail.com drop him na email since he is not arround it seems | 20:37 |
| apachelogger | sheytan: why does it make things easier for us btw? | 20:38 |
| Quintasan | OH MY GOD IT WORKS | 20:38 |
| Quintasan | yofel: HERP DERP UPLOADING | 20:38 |
| yofel | XD | 20:38 |
| sheytan | apachelogger if you have to configure your desktop and apps, with lots of changes like me, then it saves me 4 days of that game :) | 20:39 |
| apachelogger | do you get new machines that often? ^^ | 20:40 |
| * apachelogger notes that some time back someone worked on transiting KDE configs with a tool, never got stable AFAIK | 20:40 | |
| sheytan | no, but if you do, you save time :) | 20:40 |
| apachelogger | not an untrivial thing | 20:41 |
| apachelogger | should be discussed at UDS if we want to have that | 20:41 |
| sheytan | yeah, Ivan C. what working on something like this | 20:41 |
| JontheEchidna | ulysses: http://jontheechidna.wordpress.com/2010/12/21/muon-suite-1-1-beta-2/ <- localization for MSC should work in this release | 20:47 |
| * JontheEchidna goes off to play video games | 20:49 | |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: only if Nightrose can get me one .... i dont have a N900 :PO | 21:02 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Didn't you just buy a shiny new phone? Why was it not something useful? | 21:02 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: i got a HTC Desure | 21:02 |
| shadeslayer | *Desire | 21:02 |
| shadeslayer | i will be working on getting plasma mobile on it tho :> | 21:03 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: i can install Chroots on my desire ... current instructions are for karmic tho | 21:03 |
| shadeslayer | so ... will be working on that in another 2-3 days | 21:03 |
| ScottK | Sigh. When did we pick that for a Natty target? | 21:03 |
| * ScottK will remind shadeslayer that at UDS we said we wanted N900. | 21:04 | |
| maco | i keep reading "desire" as the female name "desiree" | 21:05 |
| shadeslayer | sheytan: nice ... now there is a project called kwelcomewidget which can possible use that :) | 21:05 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: N900 is old hardware .. i needed something fresh and snappy | 21:05 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: apachelogger himself says plasma-mobile crappy | 21:05 |
| shadeslayer | +is | 21:05 |
| apachelogger | no | 21:06 |
| * maco thinks we have different ideas of "old" for phones | 21:06 | |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: it shouldnt be difficult ... ill show you wait | 21:06 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Which is why you should work on it. It's not a finished thing. | 21:06 |
| apachelogger | I say that libplasma is inefficient | 21:06 |
| apachelogger | which is totally fixable | 21:06 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: OK. What are you coming back from the conf.kde.in with then? | 21:06 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: well ... ill be QA'ing Project Neon heavily there :? | 21:07 |
| shadeslayer | :> | 21:07 |
| shadeslayer | and possibly minions | 21:07 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: apachelogger so if you read this http://nexusonehacks.net/nexus-one-hacks/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-your-nexus-oneandroid/ | 21:07 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Did you see asac blogged on this topic? | 21:08 |
| shadeslayer | i think we can switch lxde with ..... plasma-mobile :) | 21:08 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: that is a different post iirc | 21:08 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: #lubuntu is another channel. | 21:08 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Yes, if you're going to do it, I'd follow his instructions. | 21:08 |
| shadeslayer | err.. no ... im saying he blogged about something else | 21:09 |
| shadeslayer | cant remember what tho | 21:10 |
| shadeslayer | possibly adb and ubuntu foo | 21:10 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: would you like me to preview something at conf.kde.in? | 21:11 |
| shadeslayer | apart from plasma-mobile and Neon | 21:11 |
| shadeslayer | im doing a QGraphicsWebView session as well possibly | 21:12 |
| * ScottK supposes with that incredibly huge laptop to lug around and the weakness of youth today you'll be too tired for much else. | 21:13 | |
| shadeslayer | interesting | 21:14 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: apparently we can haz linaro gcc for android ... thats what his blog is about | 21:15 |
| shadeslayer | which means | 21:15 |
| shadeslayer | i can haz linaro stack running on my phone | 21:15 |
| shadeslayer | nice | 21:15 |
| shadeslayer | i shall poke him asking if plasma mobile can be run | 21:16 |
| droidslayer | ScottK: BTW what would it be to get plasma mobile to work on just device.... instead it would have been better if we could get it running on a range of devices... | 22:05 |
| droidslayer | *what fun would it be | 22:06 |
| === scnd101_ is now known as scnd101 | ||
| ScottK | droidslayer: Sure. Walk before you run however. | 23:04 |
| ScottK | apachelogger_: Look at /sdb on the .110 machine. | 23:04 |
| ScottK | Still needs configuring. | 23:05 |
| droidslayer | ScottK: yeah.. for eg need to slim down the ROM size | 23:08 |
| droidslayer_ | I think ill buy a arduino... this week | 23:19 |
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