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doctormocjohnston: Are you around to talk?00:22
cjohnstonirc or skype?00:22
doctormoIt's probably a little late for popey or pleia2, but if either of you two are about too.00:22
doctormocjohnston: skype sounds cool, I don't get enough chances to use it, my empathy works too for video/audio.00:23
cjohnstoni can irc, not skype00:23
doctormookay, private message on it's way00:23
cjohnstonokie00:23
popeydoctormo: far too late / drunk to talk to anyone :)01:09
doctormopopey: *hic* dubbly-dub! nigh-night01:09
popey\o/01:10
popeybed01:10
kim0Morning folks o/07:54
nigelbMorning kim0, happy new year :)07:54
kim0nigelb: same to you :)07:55
nigelbWhen does the rest of Canonical wake up? :D07:55
kim0hehe07:55
kim0I only know daniel is off till tomorrow (Beirut)07:56
nigelbdholbach is in Beirut? O_O07:56
nigelbI envy the guy so much right now :p07:56
kim0hoho Yes!07:56
nigelbDid he vist Cairo too? :)07:57
kim0his family was planning it or something .. he told me he'd tell me soon :)07:57
kim0around the world in 80 days hehe07:57
nigelbo.O07:59
nigelbwow07:59
jussikim0: great to see you here - hope that you werent overly affected by the blasts there on the weekend.08:01
kim0shit happens :/ Life needs to go on08:02
dpmgood morning everyone, and happy new year! :)08:05
kim0dpm: o/ hey there :)08:06
dpmhey kim0, morning :)08:06
kim0dpm: hope you had some great time off08:06
dpmI certainly did, I was offline for most of the time08:07
nigelbMorning dp:)09:35
nigelberr09:35
nigelbhe left :/09:35
nigelbaha09:39
nigelbMorning dpm \o/09:39
dpmhey nigelb :)09:44
dakerkim0, howdy ?09:55
nigelbhowdy dak09:57
nigelbdaker:09:57
nigelbI fail at tab today :p09:57
dakerhello nigelb09:57
kim0daker: hey man :)10:05
duanedesign'lo all10:16
duanedesign.510:28
nigelb1/210:29
nigelbhalf :p10:29
dpmhey duanedesign, hey daker :)10:33
dakerhello dpm10:36
huatsmorning10:40
dakermorning huats10:41
czajkowskistill holidays over here today :D11:27
nigelbczajkowski: You're back in UK? :)11:33
czajkowskiyes11:33
nigelbMonday holiday is so much fun.11:33
* nigelb struggling with headache. :/11:33
czajkowskisame in uk and ireland today it's a bank holiday as new years day was on the weekend11:33
czajkowski*shrugs*11:33
nigelbLucky.11:34
duanedesignnigelb: headaches suck :11:39
nigelbduanedesign: True.11:39
duanedesign:\11:39
nigelbI can't work.  Just trying to finish of whatever boring tasks etc like replying to mail and stuff.11:39
duanedesignyep, i am just stating the obvious today :)11:40
duanedesignnigelb: i got my gmail/ubuntu inbox down to 011:41
duanedesign\o/11:41
nigelbw00t11:42
czajkowskiaye I did mine yesterday11:42
czajkowskidown to 2 to reply to and all done :D11:42
nigelbMy colleague just invited us to his weddig in the most beautiful fashion11:42
nigelbhttp://www.garyandtracey.co.cc/11:42
nigelbAppropriate card for a web developer and project manager ;)11:43
duanedesignczajkowski: i let my inbox get up to 4000+. Took 3 days of working on it to get to 0 :P11:46
duanedesignill never let that happen again11:46
czajkowskiduanedesign: nope never ever again :)11:47
czajkowskiduanedesign: I find tagging works really well11:47
nigelbThe Priority Mail was helpful when I couldn't use filters :)11:47
AlanBellI never really got the hang of folders, just use full text search and let it build up12:01
czajkowskiI only use thunderbird for my mail12:01
czajkowskionly have a gmail ac for back up and well access to google cals and docs12:02
AlanBell27,760 is probably a few too many emails to have in my inbox tbh12:02
czajkowskijust a tad12:02
jcastrowooo!13:53
jcastroback to the grind!13:53
* duanedesign waves at jcastro 14:12
* kim0 waves to jcastro 14:19
jcastrocan we go back on holiday? :)14:20
kim0hehe14:21
* nigelb waves to jcastro 14:24
jcastroalright!14:24
jcastrowe just need JFo and everything will be back to normal14:24
jcastrono daniel today?14:24
kim0jcastro: nope Beirut14:25
* JFo gets his knife14:25
kim0jcastro: back on Wed14:25
nigelbhrm, JFo seems to be back14:26
JFoyep14:26
JFowading through tons of e-mail14:26
jcastroyou sound disappointed nigelb14:27
jcastroheh14:27
JFo:)14:27
JFohe was hoping to have some more time away from me :-)14:27
kim0hehee14:27
nigelbjcastro: lol14:30
nigelbjcastro: JFo and I are having a serious facebook discussion about *ville apps ;)14:30
JFovery serious14:33
* JFo looks for facebook regular expressions14:34
nigelbheh14:34
nigelbIt would be so cool to have that.14:34
JFoone of my friends wrote a script that hid all of the quizzes in his facebook pages14:36
* JFo looks for it14:36
JFomight be possible to modify it for the *villes14:37
nigelboh, that would be totally cool \o/14:37
JFofound it14:39
JFoit is javascript14:39
JFoone sec14:40
JFoI'll pastebin it14:40
nigelbw00t14:41
JFonigelb, http://pastebin.com/fj2LhSgB14:42
jussiJFo: just clicked yes :)14:43
nigelbJFo: oh dear.  I pissed somone off :p14:44
JFonigelb, they will be ok14:45
JFofolks are resilient like that :-)14:45
* czajkowski prods JFo and runs away 14:45
JFo8-O14:45
JFoyay, jussi is muh friend! \O/14:47
jussi:D14:47
JFowhyfore you prod me czajkowski? :-(14:47
czajkowskiJFo: you were there and it was either prod you or stab someone :s lesser of two evils really14:47
czajkowskijcastro: you about my dear14:47
* jussi wonders if anyone else has diaspora here that wants to be friends....14:48
JFoside note: next year I am going somewhere other than my own home for the holidays14:48
JFoczajkowski, thanks then :)14:48
jcastroczajkowski: I am14:48
czajkowskiyou free for a quick pm ?14:48
theoshello!14:48
jussihi theos14:49
theoswe are having a conference about open-source. i would like to introduce around 500 students to ubuntu.can you please guide me on how to get some ubuntu cds shipped?14:49
czajkowskitheos: where are you based?14:49
theosczajkowski, i am around new delhi, India14:50
jussitheos: there is a special request link on the shipit site14:51
jussialthough others may be able to give you more info14:51
czajkowskibut I suspect 500 is lot and may not get processed but you can try, also talking to people in your area in a loco on loco.ubuntu.com may be more helpful as well14:51
theosjussi, i know thanks. but i dont think they will take me seriously if i request 500 cds in that form14:51
jussitheos: there is a open description part for explaining why: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/specialrequest14:52
czajkowskitheos: 500 is a lot to ship tbh14:52
nigelbtheos: isn't it cheaper to get it done locally?14:52
theoswell the thing is the cd cover/print with "UBUNTU" on it has a different feel14:52
nigelbI'm pretty sure you can get it done locally, the printing bit14:53
theosthats the main reason i want the original cds14:53
jussitheos: and are you getting a pack made for each student? or are they just going to be there for people to take?14:53
czajkowskiheh14:53
nigelbI mean India's *GOT* to be cheaper than elsewhere14:53
czajkowskitheos: I think there could be  a problem sending that many to india going by past expereince with customs14:53
theosjussi, the cds will be distributed. 1 cd per student will be the aim14:53
jussitheos: I really suggest at minimum completing the special request form.14:54
nigelbczajkowski: I was getting there :)14:54
nigelbtheos: There is always issues with customs, but like jussi says, doesn't hurt to try.14:54
theosyes i requested there. :D just in case they reject it. i wanted another option14:54
jussitheos: also, when is this conference?14:54
theosor if i could get the printed blank cds. we can burn them14:55
theosjussi, its in feb this year14:55
jussitheos: Delivery of special requests can take from twelve to sixteen weeks.14:55
jussi;)14:55
theosjussi, cds take 2 weeks to reach me14:55
nigelbtheos: which conf is this?14:55
jussitheos: thats a copy from the ubuntu website14:56
theosnigelb, trying to introduce ubuntu to some college students. its new for them14:56
* jussi notes nigelb is somewhat local14:56
nigelbheh14:56
doctormoMorning all14:57
czajkowskiintersting thing about the new gym, it's full of army men, and by god are they fit and intimidating !14:57
nigelbtheos: I know folks in Delhi who might be able to help you or at least give suggestions.14:57
czajkowskimust show no fear on the threadmill!14:57
theosnot a big conf with celebs and all :D trying to introduce ubuntu to a sect of students who will never get over m$ in life :/14:58
czajkowski*threadmill14:58
czajkowski*treadmill14:58
nigelbheh14:59
jussitheos: the more info you can share, the more people can help you.14:59
jussiczajkowski: bit of a fail day today? :D14:59
theosjussi, hmm i dont know what to tell more :D maybe i can answer some questions if asked14:59
* jussi huggles czajkowski 14:59
czajkowskijussi: just in from gym and I've 8 windows of pms from loco teams with issues. nest person that says the lococouncil doesnt help them needs to see my emails :)14:59
jussiczajkowski: I noted a blogpost on planet that was very positive about you peoples :=)15:00
jcastroczajkowski: all in favor of blaming paultag, say aye15:00
jcastroaye15:00
czajkowskioh there was a lot of sarcasim behind that15:00
theosyeah and one more thing, cds with old versions of ubuntu will be fine too15:01
czajkowskiAYE!15:01
* jussi has about 30 or so 10.04 kubuntu CD's still15:01
theos:315:01
czajkowskijussi: nobody uses Kubuntu :p bar you and darkwingduck15:02
theosthat reminds me i forgot to do gym today :/15:02
jussiAHEM!!!15:02
czajkowskijussi: oh shrup you saw the :p15:03
* jussi huggles poor riddell and scottk15:03
jussiczajkowski: come on there are 5 of us - also shadeslayer :P15:03
jussi*G*15:03
nigelbjussi: yes, about 5 people use kUbuntu :p15:04
theos:)15:04
theosi friend uses kubuntu too15:04
* jussi mutes nigelb and czajkowski :P15:04
nigelboh, we're up to 6 now :p15:05
theoshe cant use internet on it though :/15:05
theoswhat do they of old versions when newer versions come?15:06
theosthe cds i mean15:07
doctormohmm a threadmill, excellent! I have an idea.15:07
dakerYay just fixed my first bug on SC bug 63277015:08
ubot2Launchpad bug 632770 in software-center (Ubuntu) "translator-credits missing in .pot and no button in About menu to show translator (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63277015:08
nigelb*treadmill15:08
theosgreat!!15:09
dpmwell done daker! :)15:09
daker;)15:10
jcastrohmm only like 5 packages to update in natty this morning, certainly doesn't feel mondayish15:12
JFojcastro, it is a UK holiday... that may have helped15:13
jcastroyeah15:13
czajkowskino work till tomorrow :D15:13
* czajkowski really would love to move to Boston to live after watching The Town. Love the accent!15:15
theosthanks for helping :)15:16
doctormoBecause sensible countries carry forward their holidays.15:16
doctormoczajkowski: Yes, but could you stand coming to Ubuntu meetings with me ;-)15:16
czajkowskidoctormo: I've no problem at all with coming to any meeting with you doctormo15:17
doctormoczajkowski: :-) thanks, you get taffy for doing the monthly report.15:18
doctormoyou/you'd15:18
doctormoczajkowski: I've been asking ubuntu members about reporting bugs, could you spare 5 mins for me?15:20
czajkowskidoctormo: I'm just on a call now and then going to cook some food would in an hour or so be ok ?15:22
doctormosure, just ping me.15:23
czajkowskior later on this evening I'm online for the rest of the day15:23
czajkowskiok15:23
jussidoctormo: Ive 5 mins if you want?15:23
doctormojussi: I will pm you15:23
jonohey everyone! :-)15:57
kim0jono: woohoo15:58
jcastrohi2u!15:58
jonoheya kim0, jcastro!15:59
jonowelcome back :-)15:59
jonokim0, about ready for our first call of 2011?15:59
kim0jono: yep I am15:59
jcastroit's a trap!15:59
kim0hehee15:59
jonokim0, one sec16:03
dpmhappy new year jono and jcastro!16:04
dpmand to everyone else I haven't wished it too since this morning!16:04
jcastroheh16:04
jonoheya dpm!16:04
doctormojono: Welcome back!16:05
nigelboh, jono's back16:06
jonodoctormo, nigelb thanks!16:07
jonobrb phone16:07
doctormopro-tip, disconnect phone for peace.16:08
doctormoI did it over christmas and got a rewrite of inkscape's barcode modules done.16:08
nigelbeven more pro-tip ==> get off IRC for best efficiency.16:09
nigelb;)16:09
czajkowskidoctormo: am back now if you still need a hand16:58
jcastrohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36UZdRPDhtQ17:04
jcastrojono: can this be our official soundtrack? ^17:04
czajkowskijono: ello ello welcome back17:04
jonojcastro, lol17:05
jonoczajkowski, howdy!17:05
czajkowskijcastro: how do you find these clips!17:05
jcastrosomeone sent it to me just now17:06
jcastrousually I hate being bothered on monday mornings17:06
jcastrobut in this case ....17:06
czajkowskiheh17:06
czajkowskiit's not bad to be fair17:06
czajkowskijono: apologies but you've mail from me just to keep you in zee lopp17:07
czajkowski*loop17:07
jonoczajkowski, no worries17:08
jcastrokim0: man dude, your retweeting on the ubuntu cloud stuff is impressive, it's been flooding my reader all day17:30
czajkowskican someone suggest kenvandine for the hall of fame please18:01
czajkowskithe man has a patience of a saint!18:01
jcastroczajkowski: he's trained well (he's always my uds/sprint roomate)18:03
jcastrojono: I can go early today if you'd like18:05
jonojcastro, cool, let's go in 15 or so18:05
jcastro\o/18:05
jcastronow that daniel isn't here he can't crash skype18:05
czajkowskijcastro: *grin*18:06
czajkowskijcastro: I have a way of breaking gwibber and him looking rather puzzled, he feckin' rocks18:07
jonojcastro, haha18:08
jonojcastro, wrapping a mail and then ready18:28
jcastrono worries18:30
jonojcastro, all set18:33
jcastroyep18:33
jcastrojono: argh!18:34
jcastroone sec18:34
jcastroforgot to plug in the stupid mic18:34
jcastro"two ticks"18:35
jcastrojono: oh, forgot to mention. On the DVD, "Tornado of Souls". His solo on there. It's. Man .... man.19:04
jcastrodid it come with a matching music CD?19:04
jonojcastro, yeah, was awesome - no I just got the blue ray19:16
doctormojono: I wanted to say that I appreciated your blog post.19:42
czajkowskijono: your dad has such English wit! It's rather hilarious to see the stuff he comes out with!20:50
jonoczajkowski, yeah he is pretty funny :)20:51
czajkowskijono: where did he get you from :p20:51
jonoczajkowski, lol20:51
czajkowskijono: ah see you get my sense of humour and know I jest :) *hugs*20:52
jono:)20:52
doctormoczajkowski: When/where did you get to see jono-senior?21:10
nisshhdoctormo, he is on twitter/identica21:13
pleia2czajkowski: I can't wait to see your neckbeard!23:21
pleia2:D23:22
czajkowskithat guy comes out with some doozies23:22
pleia2hehe23:22
czajkowskiI cant help but laugh23:22
czajkowskipleia2: plus I still find the neckbeard thingy rather amusing23:23
czajkowskidon't think my legs are going to talk to me for days after the gym today.23:25
czajkowski:S23:25
doctormowhat is a neck beard?23:31
czajkowskiletmegooglethisforyou http://www.google.ie/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&q=neck+beard&btnG=Google+Search23:32
nisshhczajkowski, ive never understood why people think going to the gym is any better than doing exercise normally23:38
nisshhi mean, i dont need some silly structured workout to get me all toned23:39
pleia2do people think that?23:39
nisshhpleia2, not sure, thats why i assume people go to gyms :)23:40
nisshhto get all 'toned' :|23:40
pleia2a structured workout is silly for everyone23:41
nisshhexactly23:41
pleia2err, is NOT23:41
nisshhlol, fail23:41
pleia2I can think of 1000 excuses not to ride my bike every day (traffic due to $event, weather, etc)23:41
pleia2but the gym is open every day, I can keep up with it, no excuses23:42
nisshhmeh23:42
nisshhpleia2, i do exercise when i feel like it, ive gone for a 10km run in the rain, sun, etc23:42
pleia2certainly I'd prefer it if I could be active enough without a structured regimen, but it doesn't work23:42
pleia2for me23:43
nisshhyeah23:43
nisshhpleia2, but do you feel like the only way you can get/keep fit is to go to the gym?23:43
pleia2I have tried other ways, I don't have the discipline23:44
pleia2I wish I did, I think it's a bit of a failing on my part that I require the structure of a gym23:44
nisshhah yes23:44
jonothe trick to keeping fit in my limited experience is to distract your mind from the misery that is exercise23:45
nisshhi guess i am motivated enough that i can do exercise when i want23:45
jonothat is why I try to do the elliptical trainer three times a week, but I watch netflix on it23:45
pleia2I listen to podcasts and play tetris on my DS23:45
pleia2foss weekly catchup time, woo23:45
nisshhjono, well, something that helps me is that i am a very good runner, i won many events in long distance running when i was at school23:46
nisshhand i really enjoy exercise23:46
nisshhi think part of the fact that people dont like exercise is that it requires effort23:47
nisshhpeople find putting in effort too hard23:47
pleia2I have to admit that I prefer pizza and building servers to the elliptical :)23:48
doctormoI think the key to doing anything is routine and enjoyment, if you don't enjoy exercise at all then make sure you work 10 miles away and force yourself to cycle.23:48
nisshhdoctormo, agreed23:48
nisshhpleia2, hehe23:48
doctormojono, your a bit put out as your work from home and don't like exercise. I don't think the wii would help in your case.23:48
jonodoctormo, yeah23:50
doctormowow my grammar was bad in that. your/you're and your/you23:50
nisshhjono, your not thinking of getting a wii and playing Wii Fit Plus are you?23:51
nisshhthat game gets you about as fit as reaching for a beer would23:51
jononisshh, hah, no my wife likes some of that23:52
jonobut she exercises a lot23:52
nisshhah ok23:52
jonobrb23:52
doctormonisshh: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof! ;-)23:52
nisshhdoctormo, i have proof, my dad hurt his back playing it :)23:53
nisshhdoctormo, its like doing very very easy yoga stretches23:53
nisshhthats about it23:53
nisshhdoctormo, try Wii Fit Plus for a week, then tell me if you feel any fitter :)23:54
doctormonisshh: That's funny, I thought anything that exhausted the pants out of your for an hour was a good thing.23:54
nisshhheh, my dad's 51 and he can barely run 1km now23:55
doctormoI've been trying Wii fit for 900 days, on and off. It's keeping me better than sitting down was.23:55
nisshhtrue23:55
doctormonisshh: I wonder if your appreciation is shifted because of how good you are and how good your fittness must be.23:56
nisshhdoctormo, oh man, im not that fit, trust me :)23:56
nisshhive just started doing 10km runs after doing no exercise for nearly 2 years23:57
doctormonisshh: What's your sprint distance?23:57
nisshhyou mean how far can i sprint?23:57
doctormoyes23:57
nisshhmaybe 300m23:57
nisshhif i was lucky :)23:57
nisshhdoctormo, i guess my appreciation is a bit shifted, but remember i am only 19, so its far easier for me to get fit quickly than it is for someone who is 30/40/5023:59

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