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| didrocks | good morning | 07:37 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 08:07 |
| didrocks | hey pitti! Happy new year! How are you? | 08:09 |
| pitti | hey didrocks, bonjour! I'm great, I enjoyed the long holidays | 08:10 |
| pitti | and you? | 08:10 |
| didrocks | I enjoyed it too, moving to my new flat :) | 08:10 |
| pitti | got everything settled? | 08:10 |
| didrocks | however, I still have no Internet, so I'm on a flappy connexion | 08:10 |
| didrocks | not yet, will get the bed this evening for instance :) | 08:11 |
| pitti | ah, 3G and sleeping mattress :) | 08:11 |
| didrocks | yeah ;) | 08:11 |
| didrocks | been 20 days on a pneumatic mattress | 08:11 |
| didrocks | this has to end :) | 08:11 |
| didrocks | air bed* | 08:12 |
| pitti | didrocks: so now we have to re-learn what this computer thing is :) | 08:27 |
| seb128 | hello there! | 08:27 |
| didrocks | hey seb128! | 08:27 |
| seb128 | hey pitti didrocks | 08:27 |
| didrocks | pitti: exactly, it was so nice to be away from it for some time :) | 08:27 |
| pitti | bonjour Monsieur Bacher! Bonne annee! | 08:27 |
| seb128 | hey pitti, "gute neue jahre?" ;-) | 08:28 |
| pitti | didrocks: me too; in all those two weeks I didn't work for more than perhaps 4 hours; spent lots of time with my family and friends, and played Descent 1 & 2 :) | 08:28 |
| pitti | seb128: "Gesundes neues Jahr" usually, but thanks! | 08:28 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 08:28 |
| seb128 | Gesundes neues Jahr then! ;-) | 08:29 |
| mvo | hey guys! happy new year everyone | 08:29 |
| * pitti hugs seb128 and didrocks | 08:29 | |
| seb128 | I managed to not work at all in 2 weeks | 08:29 |
| * pitti hugs mvo too, Gesundes Neues! | 08:29 | |
| seb128 | I'm not looking forwarding opening my mailbox | 08:29 |
| didrocks | pitti: ahah, Descent! That's true you got it before the holidays :) | 08:29 |
| * mvo hugs pitti, seb128, didrocks | 08:29 | |
| seb128 | hey mvo | 08:29 |
| seb128 | happy new year! | 08:29 |
| * didrocks hugs mvo, pitti and seb128 | 08:29 | |
| pitti | didrocks: I bought d2 as well now, pretty nice | 08:29 |
| didrocks | happy new year mvo | 08:29 |
| * seb128 hugs mvo pitti didrocks | 08:29 | |
| pitti | now I have to get used to not sleeping until 9 | 08:30 |
| didrocks | new bad habits? :) | 08:30 |
| mvo | and after peaceful two weeks my daughter decided last night, that 4 in the morning is the right time to get up and wake everyone up (took a good while until we slept again). so much for a good start into the working year ;) | 08:31 |
| seb128 | hehehe, kids for you! | 08:31 |
| didrocks | urgh :) | 08:32 |
| seb128 | pitti, or get used to sleep until 9 and work later :p | 08:32 |
| * mvo will need a lot of tea to shake of the sleepiness | 08:32 | |
| seb128 | I gave up on waking up early, that's not for me :p | 08:32 |
| mvo | lol@seb128 - kids help here too :p | 08:32 |
| seb128 | didrocks, btw how was your moving? | 08:32 |
| seb128 | you got internet at your new place? | 08:32 |
| didrocks | seb128: no Internet yet. I'm on a quite flappy connexion right now… | 08:33 |
| didrocks | seb128: the moving was great otherwise, thanks! :) | 08:33 |
| didrocks | I'll have my bed this evening normally | 08:33 |
| pitti | http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-desktop-team.html -> nice, we just touched the trend line; about time to end the holidays :) | 08:33 |
| didrocks | almost settled, but the moving was done with a snowy weather, quite scary :) | 08:34 |
| seb128 | yeah, I had a though for you at this time | 08:34 |
| seb128 | nice that you made it ;-) | 08:34 |
| mvo | weeeh, its always "fun", moving isn't it. good luck to settle everything | 08:34 |
| seb128 | didrocks, where do you work from then? some coffee shop in the city ? ;-) | 08:35 |
| seb128 | stealing some open wifi close by? ;-) | 08:35 |
| didrocks | seb128: thanks, yeah, it was obviously not the good 2 days for planning that :) | 08:35 |
| didrocks | seb128: right now, I'm on free | 08:35 |
| didrocks | freewifi* | 08:35 |
| didrocks | (with my parents id) | 08:35 |
| didrocks | fortunately a neighbour has free, so I can connect on this with other free user id | 08:36 |
| didrocks | but the connexion is sometimes down | 08:36 |
| didrocks | it's ok for today with all email catching I guess | 08:36 |
| didrocks | if it really goes badly, I'll go to framasoft's house where I'm invited :) | 08:37 |
| seb128 | ok | 08:37 |
| seb128 | when will you get your line working? | 08:38 |
| didrocks | don't really know… Free has blocked all new connexion since the 15th december with its new freebox (V6) until today… | 08:39 |
| didrocks | so I should see things moving starting from now. (asking to france telecom to connect my flat back and then activate Free) | 08:40 |
| didrocks | the new freebox will be sent starting tomorrow | 08:40 |
| didrocks | hopefully I'll get something before going to Dallas | 08:40 |
| didrocks | and you? how was your holidays? | 08:41 |
| seb128 | great | 08:43 |
| seb128 | not touching the computer for 2 weeks was really great, I needed that | 08:43 |
| didrocks | nice :) | 08:44 |
| seb128 | I should be better at taking some holidays during the year this year | 08:44 |
| seb128 | I was really exhausted before the holidays | 08:44 |
| seb128 | otherwise really relaxing time | 08:44 |
| xclaesse | ah, seb128 was on vacation, that explain I didn't get much in my "apt-get upgrade" | 08:45 |
| seb128 | sleep, tv, some video gaming (zelda) | 08:45 |
| seb128 | nice winter weather outside for some walks | 08:45 |
| xclaesse | FYI, the only hard-dep missing in natty to build empathy-3 is gnome-keyring-3 | 08:46 |
| didrocks | seb128: excellent ;) indeed, we have a real winter weather this year | 08:46 |
| pitti | mvo: oh, you already fixed the libgnome2-perl -> libgtk2-perl dependencies of gdebi and friends? danke! | 08:47 |
| xclaesse | unfortunately, ssh agent doesn't work with gnome-keyring3 from the gnome3 ppa :( | 08:47 |
| dpm | morning and happy new year everyone! | 08:48 |
| pitti | hey dpm, happy new year! | 08:48 |
| dpm | hey pitti, did you have nice holidays? | 08:49 |
| didrocks | happy new year dpm! | 08:49 |
| pitti | dpm: I did! lots of family, friends, snow, and Descent playing | 08:49 |
| dpm | cool :) | 08:49 |
| dpm | heya didrocks, happy new year to you too ;) | 08:49 |
| mvo | pitti: yw | 08:56 |
| pitti | mvo: can bug 659438 be fixed in natty soon, so that we can move it to maverick-updates? | 09:00 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 659438 in python-apt (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 4 other projects) "Installation/Removal fails because of package which could not be located (faiulre in apt.Cache.required_download) (affects: 326) (dups: 177) (heat: 1678)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/659438 | 09:00 |
| mvo | pitti: yes, might be fixed there already, I double check | 09:09 |
| seb128 | oh, yeah, let's play ping mvo | 09:17 |
| seb128 | mvo, what's up with my update-notifier fix to make user crash be reported under unity | 09:17 |
| seb128 | ? | 09:17 |
| mvo | seb128: I looked at it its fine, I had some minor nitpick but I forgot what it was, so I will look at it again today | 09:21 |
| seb128 | mvo, it would be nice if you could land it in natty | 09:22 |
| seb128 | so we receive bugs about unity | 09:22 |
| seb128 | mvo, thanks ;-) | 09:22 |
| mvo | makes sense of course | 09:23 |
| pitti | jasoncwarner: good morning, and happy new year! had some nice holidays? | 09:26 |
| rodrigo_ | morning | 09:29 |
| pitti | hey rodrigo_, happy new year! how are you? | 09:32 |
| rodrigo_ | happy new year pitti | 09:33 |
| rodrigo_ | and all | 09:33 |
| pitti | seb128: do you mind if I update gsettings-desktop-schemas to 0.1.3? control-center git head needs it | 09:33 |
| seb128 | pitti, go for it | 09:35 |
| seb128 | pitti, you can probably just sync on debian | 09:35 |
| rodrigo_ | pitti, https://code.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/gsettings-desktop-schemas/0_1_3_release | 09:36 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: ah | 09:36 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: is that any different than Debian's? | 09:36 |
| pitti | we only use the lp:ubuntu/gsettings-desktop-schemas branch anyway, so syncing will update that as well | 09:36 |
| rodrigo_ | pitti, no, so just syncing from debian should be ok | 09:36 |
| rodrigo_ | hey seb128, happy new year | 09:36 |
| pitti | cool, doing that then | 09:36 |
| didrocks | hey rodrigo_, happy new year! | 09:37 |
| rodrigo_ | didrocks, same to you :) | 09:37 |
| pitti | seb128, rodrigo_: yep, binary debdiff looks fine | 09:38 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, happy new year! | 09:38 |
| rodrigo_ | also, see https://code.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/gnome-desktop/2_91_4_release | 09:39 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: need sponsoring? can do that | 09:42 |
| rodrigo_ | pitti, yes, unless someone already updated it last week | 09:42 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: into lp:ubuntu/g-d? | 09:43 |
| rodrigo_ | pitti, no, this is g-d-3, so lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-desktop/ubuntu-gtk3 | 09:43 |
| pitti | ah | 09:43 |
| rodrigo_ | I think that's the correct branch, seb128 ^ ? | 09:43 |
| rodrigo_ | although it should probably be lp:~gnome3-team/... as robert_ancell and I discussed the week before last week | 09:44 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: hm, these branches aren't compatible | 09:45 |
| rodrigo_ | well wait, not sure about g-d-3, robert_ancell suggested to use ~gnome3 branches for stuff that is only on the gnome3 ppa | 09:45 |
| rodrigo_ | and ~ubuntu-desktop/.../ubuntugtk3 for gnome3 versions of libs | 09:46 |
| rodrigo_ | pitti, oh? | 09:46 |
| pitti | bzr: ERROR: KnitPackRepository('file:///home/martin/ubuntu/gnome3/gnome-desktop3/.bzr/repository/') | 09:46 |
| pitti | is not compatible with | 09:46 |
| pitti | RemoteRepository(bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/gnome-desktop/2_91_4_release/.bzr/) | 09:46 |
| pitti | different rich-root support | 09:46 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: my local one is the checkout of lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-desktop/ubuntu-gtk3 | 09:46 |
| * pitti tries to upgrade to 2a | 09:46 | |
| pitti | rodrigo_: ah, that worked; sorry for the noise | 09:47 |
| rodrigo_ | pitti, ah ok | 09:47 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: btw, having #MISSING in *.symbols is not acceptable | 09:47 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: I'll just remove them from the .symbols, as this is only a PPA etc., but it generally means that upstream screwed up the abi | 09:47 |
| rodrigo_ | oh, that was the diff shown by dh_gensymbols, it indeed looked strange to me | 09:48 |
| rodrigo_ | pitti, right | 09:48 |
| rodrigo_ | btw, I had a problem the week before last week after upgrading, with ssh-agent never showing the password dialog, any idea if something broke there? | 09:49 |
| * rodrigo_ upgrades | 09:49 | |
| pitti | works here | 09:49 |
| rodrigo_ | pitti, with all up-to-date? | 09:50 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: yes, I dist-upgraded almost every day | 09:50 |
| rodrigo_ | hmm, maybe then it's something in the gnome3 ppa that broke it, but couldn't find what, so looking again | 09:51 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: does gnome-control-center with gnome3 ppa work for you? | 09:53 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: I get a "cannot open libgtk-x11-3.0.so library blabla" error | 09:53 |
| rodrigo_ | pitti, yes, that's an upstream bug in gtk, ln -s /usr/lib/libgtk-3.0.so /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-3.0.so should fix it | 09:54 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: oh, and I'll fix the version number; 2ubuntu1 -> 0ubuntu1 | 09:54 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: heh, ok | 09:54 |
| rodrigo_ | although g-c-c doesn't work for me now though | 09:55 |
| rodrigo_ | (gnome-control-center:6793): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: specified class size for type `CcPanel' is smaller than the parent type's `GtkBin' class size | 09:55 |
| rodrigo_ | I guess it needs a recompile | 09:55 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: same here; it doesn't crash, but doesn't show anything | 09:57 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: and you didn't update the patches | 09:58 |
| rodrigo_ | ok, I'll try rebuilding it, let's see | 09:58 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: in g-d3 | 09:58 |
| rodrigo_ | pitti, hmm | 09:58 |
| pitti | Patch 00git_no_GDK_DRAWABLE.patch can be reverse-applied | 09:58 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: 100_load_desired_settings.patch isn't in series, is that intended? | 09:59 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: want to fix this yourself, or want me to? | 09:59 |
| rodrigo_ | I'll fix it | 10:00 |
| pitti | thanks | 10:00 |
| rodrigo_ | ok, so again, patches are not applied when I build locally, as it happened in my seahorse branch, any idea why that happens? | 10:01 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: please pull from lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-desktop/ubuntu-gtk3 first | 10:01 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: as I updated the branch format, merged from you, and did the version fix | 10:01 |
| rodrigo_ | ok | 10:01 |
| pitti | (pull instead of merge should work and is cleaner) | 10:01 |
| pitti | Requested 'gdk-pixbuf-2.0 >= 2.23.0' but version of GdkPixbuf is 2.22.1 | 10:01 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: ^ do you know where I can get that from? It doesn't seem to be in the PPA | 10:02 |
| pitti | I thought we should have the GTK 3 stack in natty already | 10:02 |
| seb128 | 2.23 was realeased during the holidays | 10:02 |
| pitti | ah, ok | 10:03 |
| rodrigo_ | pitti, yeah | 10:03 |
| pitti | so we simply need an update of that? | 10:03 |
| pitti | want me to do that? | 10:03 |
| seb128 | it's in debian experimental | 10:03 |
| pitti | i. e. merge it? | 10:03 |
| seb128 | the diff with debian is probably small to null | 10:03 |
| seb128 | that would be great | 10:03 |
| pitti | right on it | 10:03 |
| seb128 | the gtk3 situation is weird | 10:03 |
| seb128 | I'm still catching up on emails | 10:03 |
| seb128 | but the ppa has a git snapshot? | 10:03 |
| pitti | seb128: that's fine; for these things I'd just rather confirm with you first | 10:03 |
| seb128 | ricotz, could you not upload git snapshots to the ppa for gtk? | 10:04 |
| seb128 | it's a gnome3 ppa not a crack of the day one | 10:04 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3/+packages doesn't seem to? | 10:04 |
| seb128 | the natty version is stucked in NEW | 10:04 |
| seb128 | but maybe it's ok, I read it had some crasher issue | 10:04 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, he uploaded it because of the libgtk-x11* problem | 10:05 |
| pitti | seb128: if you talk about the new GTK, that was reverted | 10:05 |
| ricotz | seb128, hi, this was intended to fix some great problems, like rodrigo_ said | 10:05 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, so, once we have the fixed one in natty, we can remove it from the ppa | 10:06 |
| pitti | ah, I'll NEW it | 10:06 |
| pitti | 3 minutes too late, of course | 10:06 |
| pitti | seb128: so gtk+3.0 replaces the gdk-pixbuf package? | 10:07 |
| pitti | or are we talking about two different things here? | 10:07 |
| seb128 | we are talking about different things I think | 10:07 |
| seb128 | but I didn't really follow what happened with gtk | 10:07 |
| seb128 | or the breakage ricotz and rodrigo_ are talking about | 10:07 |
| seb128 | what version was broken? | 10:07 |
| pitti | I seem to remember that 2.91.8 had a problem and broke gdm for many people, and then got reverted | 10:08 |
| pitti | but I don't see evidence of that in teh changelog, so maybe it wasn't gtk+3.0 | 10:08 |
| seb128 | we never had 2.91.8 in natty | 10:08 |
| seb128 | or not on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+publishinghistory | 10:08 |
| baptistemm | hi there | 10:08 |
| baptistemm | Happy New year | 10:08 |
| seb128 | hey baptistemm, happy new year! | 10:08 |
| ricotz | pitti, gtk2.23.3 is broken and also gtk2.91.7 ;) | 10:09 |
| pitti | ricotz, rodrigo_: gtk+3.0 binNEWed, but that's still 2.91.7, and the PPA has 2.91.8~git | 10:09 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, so it was gtk2, not gtk3 | 10:09 |
| seb128 | pitti, so the gtk you just newed is broken | 10:09 |
| rodrigo_ | yes | 10:10 |
| baptistemm | seb128: sorry If i sent you a picture of me yesterday :) | 10:10 |
| pitti | seb128: but we already have 2.91.7-0ubuntu1 in natty | 10:10 |
| pitti | seb128: i. e. the binNEW wasn't a new upstream version | 10:11 |
| seb128 | oh right | 10:11 |
| seb128 | so is 2.91.7 broken and how so? | 10:11 |
| pitti | it just re-adds pixbuf | 10:11 |
| pitti | seb128: jdstrand reported (with gtk2) a gdm failure; I didn't have that | 10:11 |
| pitti | beyond that I don't know details, I'm afraid | 10:11 |
| pitti | gtk3 at least works with apport and jockey etc., although only without themes | 10:12 |
| seb128 | ricotz, rodrigo_: what is broken in 2.91.7 and 2.23.3? | 10:12 |
| ricotz | seb128, 2.91.7 dropped some *.pc files and messed up a method return value | 10:13 |
| ricotz | and i think 2.23.3 broke the api | 10:13 |
| seb128 | way to go gtk guys | 10:13 |
| seb128 | we should really stay away from GNOME3 this cycle | 10:14 |
| pitti | seb128: gdk-pixbuf> we have one extra patch, the rest of the diff is just noise; I'll double-check if the patch is still necessary, and merge or sync | 10:20 |
| didrocks | hum, I think I'm the only one with a broken bzr right? | 10:25 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I neither dist-upgraded nor finished catchup with emails | 10:26 |
| seb128 | so I didn't try yet, what is broken? | 10:26 |
| didrocks | I upgraded and downloaded my email in an cafe yesterday knowing my connexion today :) getting a big stacktrace on bzr branch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/549771/ | 10:27 |
| pitti | didrocks: workaround: python2.6 /usr/bin/bzr ... | 10:28 |
| didrocks | pitti: ok, was going to try that, should escape ~ as bash try to interpret it with python 2.6 as a command | 10:28 |
| didrocks | pitti: working well, thanks! :) | 10:29 |
| seb128 | pitti, what gobject-introspection binary versions did you reject? | 10:30 |
| seb128 | pitti, the bug was in 0ubuntu2 and fixed in 0ubuntu3 I think | 10:30 |
| seb128 | those were maybe a leftover of the broken upload? | 10:30 |
| pitti | 0.10.0-0ubuntu1 | 10:30 |
| pitti | 2010-12-23 | 10:30 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, indeed | 10:31 |
| seb128 | ok great | 10:31 |
| pitti | brb | 10:31 |
| pitti | I really like the new shotwell, BTW; spent last night until 2 am to tag all my photos, now that shotwell actually puts those into the .jpg :) | 10:35 |
| pitti | kenvandine: did you forward gdk-pixbuf 065_gir_set_packages.patch to upstream anywhere? this should be fixed there, too | 10:37 |
| huats | morning | 10:40 |
| pitti | bonjour huats, bonne annee! | 10:41 |
| seb128 | lut huats, bonne année ! | 10:41 |
| seb128 | pitti, yeah, that and it handles videos now | 10:42 |
| seb128 | shotwell for the win ;-) | 10:42 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, it didn't before? yes, works well now | 10:42 |
| seb128 | pitti, no it didn't before ;-) | 10:42 |
| huats | bonne année too seb128 and pitti ! | 10:42 |
| pitti | seb128: had it running for some 4 hours without a single crash; it just hangs a couple of times when the I/O from rewriting files gets too high | 10:43 |
| seb128 | didrocks, btw I had fun with compiz after you left ;-) | 10:43 |
| pitti | but that's just a general linux misbehaviour | 10:43 |
| seb128 | right | 10:43 |
| didrocks | seb128: I saw that! You played reverting my workaround :p | 10:43 |
| seb128 | didrocks, it breaks menus for some reason | 10:43 |
| didrocks | seb128: that's evil, I don't make an upload at 3AM just for fun :p | 10:43 |
| seb128 | and I didn't get the hang | 10:43 |
| seb128 | didrocks, well there is no hang, that stacktrace of yours was a redhearing | 10:44 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, you are lucky :) | 10:44 |
| seb128 | it does crash on start for everybody though | 10:44 |
| seb128 | in the unity session | 10:44 |
| seb128 | unity doesn't crash in the classic session | 10:44 |
| seb128 | it's really weird | 10:44 |
| didrocks | about the menu, sam told me it was because of something else he already had | 10:44 |
| didrocks | just the workaround make it more often | 10:44 |
| seb128 | like if you enable unity in ccsm in the classic session it works | 10:44 |
| didrocks | yeah, it's really a redhearing… | 10:44 |
| seb128 | but it crashes in the unity session | 10:44 |
| seb128 | confirmed by several people | 10:45 |
| didrocks | that's why I fought it for 4 hours before deciding to go the workaround way… | 10:45 |
| * Amaranth doesn't get a hang/crash when starting unity session | 10:45 | |
| seb128 | I don't get the difference between classic with unity on and unity | 10:45 |
| didrocks | Amaranth: try to remove the workaround in -0ubuntu3 | 10:45 |
| Amaranth | There shouldn't be a difference | 10:45 |
| didrocks | Amaranth: and read the changelog | 10:45 |
| Amaranth | didrocks: oh, right, someone put it back in | 10:45 |
| Amaranth | bleh | 10:45 |
| Amaranth | I never saw that hang though :) | 10:45 |
| didrocks | it's using the profile environment variable | 10:45 |
| didrocks | a different code path then | 10:45 |
| seb128 | it's not an hang | 10:45 |
| seb128 | it's a crash on start | 10:45 |
| seb128 | bug #691561 | 10:46 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 691561 in compiz (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "compiz crash on login to Unity desktop (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 263)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/691561 | 10:46 |
| Amaranth | seb128: Sam wanted to know if we could get the patch for bug 691545 applied in ubuntu | 10:46 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 691545 in libwnck (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "[natty] moving a window between workspaces changes its position (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/691545 | 10:46 |
| seb128 | ^ the bug I just pointed is the crash without the workaround | 10:46 |
| Amaranth | yeah, not much info there | 10:47 |
| seb128 | there is a debug stacktrace | 10:48 |
| seb128 | Amaranth, the libwnck patch, seems fine to me, someone should add the patch to the bug and subscribe the sponsors | 10:48 |
| seb128 | or get didrocks to sponsor it for you ;-) | 10:48 |
| didrocks | the gconf backend is just wrong from the design in any case… I really hope in N+1 we can get the gsettings one | 10:48 |
| seb128 | waouh, I'm done with email catching up | 10:48 |
| didrocks | I already answered to sam I can sponsor it once I've done with my emails | 10:48 |
| seb128 | well not with the bug boxes | 10:48 |
| pitti | congrats seb128 :) | 10:48 |
| didrocks | lucky you :) | 10:48 |
| seb128 | but everything else including debian and natty changes | 10:49 |
| seb128 | I might just declare bugmail bankrupcy | 10:49 |
| Amaranth | oh oh oh, that bug is a dupe | 10:49 |
| seb128 | set them all as read | 10:49 |
| didrocks | I think that's the perfect to tell "dx will handle unity bugs now" and mark the 700 emails marked as read :) | 10:49 |
| Amaranth | crash in CompWindow::id() | 10:49 |
| didrocks | time* | 10:49 |
| seb128 | Amaranth, known issue but no patch right? | 10:49 |
| seb128 | didrocks, 1982 emails in my launchpad box | 10:50 |
| Amaranth | Which is because screen->windows somehow ends up containing an invalid pointer and unity doesn't make sure they're valid before calling the id method | 10:50 |
| seb128 | over 410 in my unity one | 10:50 |
| seb128 | Amaranth, so 2 bugs, one in compiz and unity not being careful enough? | 10:50 |
| Amaranth | pretty much | 10:50 |
| htorque | Amaranth, bug 685418 (i'm the reporter)? i don't get this spinning cursor anymore, though. | 10:51 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 685418 in unity "SIGSEGV in CompWindow::id() (affects: 4) (heat: 24)" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/685418 | 10:51 |
| Amaranth | screen->windows should never have an invalid CompWindow pointer in there but if unity checked for it the problem would go away | 10:51 |
| didrocks | seb128: I'm just counting the unity one, not the "general/compiz/misc". It should be no more than 1200 though… I lose :) | 10:51 |
| seb128 | hey htorque, happy new year | 10:51 |
| htorque | seb128, thanks, to you (and everyone else) too :) | 10:52 |
| seb128 | Amaranth, happy new year as well btw | 10:52 |
| Amaranth | thanks, you as well | 10:52 |
| didrocks | seb128: 410 only for unity? oh, that's because you are not in the dx team and don't have upstream one it seems | 10:52 |
| didrocks | that's an evil place as well :) | 10:52 |
| seb128 | didrocks, right, I'm only in the unity team | 10:53 |
| didrocks | happy new year Amaranth and htorque | 10:53 |
| seb128 | that's enough for my taste :p | 10:53 |
| didrocks | :) | 10:53 |
| mvo | hey Amaranth, happy new year! | 10:53 |
| Amaranth | happy new year didrocks and mvo :) | 10:53 |
| didrocks | Amaranth: btw, someone proposed to package -extra. I think you're not on it, right? | 10:55 |
| Amaranth | didrocks: someone did it already | 10:55 |
| dpm | didrocks, I've noticed that the "Ubuntu Classic Desktop" menu entry in gdm is not translatable (or at least I could not find the translation). Do you happen to know where it comes from? | 10:56 |
| pitti | seb128, rodrigo_: do you think we should have libgnomekbd3 in natty, similar to gnome-desktop and gtk? | 10:56 |
| didrocks | dpm: oh, I maybe didn't add it to the POTFILE | 10:56 |
| seb128 | pitti, we can't | 10:57 |
| seb128 | pitti, it's not versioned | 10:57 |
| rodrigo_ | pitti, what seb128 says | 10:57 |
| seb128 | pitti, the binaries and images etc don't have a versioned dir or name | 10:58 |
| didrocks | Amaranth: ok, it's the same person, it's just that I had no Internet during the holidays and was catching up today | 10:58 |
| pitti | seb128: we have abi 4, PPA has ABI 7? | 10:58 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, ok | 10:58 |
| didrocks | dpm: I'll check, thanks | 10:58 |
| seb128 | pitti, well it only has 3 rdepends which need to be upload together anyway | 10:58 |
| dpm | didrocks, thank you :) | 10:58 |
| pitti | seb128: and libgnomekbd 2.91 won't work with gnome 2.30? | 10:58 |
| seb128 | g-s-d g-s g-c-c | 10:58 |
| seb128 | pitti, it's using gtk3 | 10:58 |
| pitti | ok | 10:58 |
| didrocks | Amaranth: so, once smspillaz will reorganize to have one tree and that we will split the packages, I'll rename and remove "fusion" in the name, agreed? | 10:58 |
| pitti | seb128: thanks for the heads-up; I just wondered because I remembered that we said "have the libraries, but not the apps" | 10:59 |
| seb128 | pitti, there is nothing to win to update, as said only 3 rdepends | 10:59 |
| Amaranth | didrocks: sounds good | 10:59 |
| seb128 | pitti, no worry, yeah that's still the story when possible | 10:59 |
| pitti | seb128: would make it easier (or possible) to build gtk3 stuff on natty | 10:59 |
| * Amaranth wanted to use the new 3.0 support for multiple tarballs in one source package to do that | 10:59 | |
| seb128 | pitti, I'm pondering rolling back gtk3 out of the CD | 10:59 |
| didrocks | Amaranth: I think smspillaz wanted to only make one tarball with everything in it. But I'll check. Yeah, source 3 will be nice. Not sure if we can push the lp team for daily builds | 11:00 |
| pitti | seb128: was it just me (apport, language-selector) who pulled it in? | 11:01 |
| seb128 | pitti, yes | 11:01 |
| seb128 | pitti, that's a topic for the rally though I guess, will be either to get mterry and robert_ancell in the discussion | 11:01 |
| seb128 | but since we will not likely update any GNOME component in natty we could as well roll back gtk3 from the cd | 11:02 |
| seb128 | if you could use gtk2 stack for apport and l-s | 11:02 |
| xclaesse | seb128, oh, no GTK3 for natty? :( | 11:02 |
| pitti | seb128: hm, in theory we should even be able to use g-i with gtk2? | 11:03 |
| seb128 | pitti, yes | 11:03 |
| seb128 | if you don't need any new api | 11:03 |
| seb128 | xclaesse, well it's in natty but maybe not on the default installation | 11:03 |
| seb128 | xclaesse, it will still be maintained in main and uptodate | 11:03 |
| pitti | seb128: not really; I ported to some GTK3isms, but shouldn't be too hard to support both | 11:03 |
| * xclaesse hoped empathy3 would be on natty | 11:03 | |
| seb128 | it will be in the gnome3 ppa | 11:03 |
| didrocks | dpm: confirmed, it was just missing from the POTFILES.in, do you have a bug report about it? | 11:04 |
| seb128 | it's not really possible to bring one part of GNOME3 without everything | 11:04 |
| pitti | seb128: it's a lot more than apport and l-s, though | 11:04 |
| pitti | seb128: check sudo apt-get purge libgtk3.0-0 on a live system | 11:04 |
| xclaesse | seb128, sure it is everything or nothing... but hoped it would be everything :P | 11:04 |
| xclaesse | but I can perfectly understand it is risky | 11:05 |
| seb128 | right, it's risky | 11:05 |
| dpm | didrocks, I don't have a bug report because I did not know against which package to file it. If you need one, I'll be more than happy to do it | 11:05 |
| seb128 | we will probably have a better experience for users with the ppa | 11:05 |
| xclaesse | tbh I won't believe in GNOME3 into GTK 3.0 is released | 11:05 |
| seb128 | since it means we will be able to update things after the natty freeze | 11:05 |
| didrocks | dpm: no, it's not needed. It was just to close it in case :) | 11:05 |
| xclaesse | s/into/until/ | 11:05 |
| pitti | seb128: hm, libcanberra-gtk0 depends on gtk3; that looks like a bug? (only libcanberra3-gtk-0 sohuld) | 11:05 |
| seb128 | pitti, indeed | 11:06 |
| pitti | seb128: and mousetweaks; the rest is transitive dependencies | 11:06 |
| seb128 | I didn't check this one but should be easy enough to downgrade the version if needed | 11:07 |
| seb128 | but let's discuss it next week | 11:07 |
| pitti | ack | 11:07 |
| dpm | didrocks, great, thanks. So once fixed, which package should I check out to find the string? Was it gdm? | 11:07 |
| seb128 | it just feels like natty is a short target for GNOME3 | 11:07 |
| seb128 | GNOME3 is still changing a lot and breaking | 11:07 |
| didrocks | dpm: no, it's in gnome-session | 11:07 |
| didrocks | dpm: I just pushed the bzr branch right now, will upload it with other change later this week, maybe | 11:08 |
| seb128 | it's not likely we will manage to get a great GNOME3 this cycle, upstream and distro work speaking | 11:08 |
| pitti | seb128: just as a heads-up, I'm currently investigating how much effort it is to separately package the g-c-c 3 user admin portion for natty, to replace gnome-system-tools | 11:09 |
| dpm | thanks didrocks | 11:09 |
| didrocks | dpm: yw :) | 11:09 |
| pitti | seb128: if we drop gtk3, then this will be postponed as well | 11:09 |
| pitti | seb128: it's not a biggie, as we already keep a lot of perl for apparmor, g-s-t doesn't take that much extra space | 11:10 |
| seb128 | pitti, would probably be easier to package the standalone version fedora was using | 11:12 |
| pitti | seb128: YM system-config-user? no, that was too crackful | 11:12 |
| seb128 | no, the new user admin | 11:13 |
| seb128 | they wrote it as a standalone software first | 11:13 |
| seb128 | they are using it for one or two cycle | 11:13 |
| seb128 | well, what is in gcc3 now | 11:13 |
| pitti | seb128: ah; so it wouldn't bee too much of an UI shift for users? | 11:13 |
| seb128 | I didn't try both versions so I can't really say | 11:14 |
| seb128 | it seems like we could just stay away from that work until next cycle though | 11:14 |
| rodrigo_ | the standalone version is a bit out of date, but maybe it might work | 11:14 |
| pitti | seb128: ok; I won't waste too much time on it; it's a WI of mine, but since the whole "remove perl" idea is pretty much moot due to apparmor.. | 11:14 |
| seb128 | ok | 11:15 |
| pitti | Laney: "Investigate areas for banshee diet, notably splitting out less used plugins and dropping sqlite2 dependency" -> looks like this already happened to some degree? | 11:32 |
| pitti | mvo: we already talked a while ago about dropping srcpkgcache.bin by default; I didn't notice any problem with that, but you had some concerns back then | 11:33 |
| pitti | MacSlow: gesundes Neues! how are you? | 11:34 |
| Laney | pitti: yes, sorry forgot about that — should be alright now | 11:36 |
| Laney | banshee itself needs a quick MIR review, but from my POV it should be good to seed | 11:36 |
| pitti | Laney: cool, thanks | 11:36 |
| pitti | Laney: so this can be set to "DONE"? | 11:36 |
| Laney | yep | 11:36 |
| pitti | Laney: thanks muchly | 11:37 |
| Laney | np | 11:37 |
| === rodrigo__ is now known as rodrigo_ | ||
| MacSlow | pitti, Dir ebenfalls... healthy again... despite the nasty cold weather | 11:58 |
| pitti | MacSlow: ah, good to hear | 11:58 |
| MacSlow | pitti, only the trip to the south of spain didn't work... since I got a nasty flu at the start of the vacation | 11:59 |
| geser | is it expected that I've to send a SIGHUP to gnome-panel after login to make it visible in the "classic" gnome desktop? | 12:02 |
| pitti | not here; although I get all indicators crashing and have to reload them | 12:02 |
| geser | hmm | 12:03 |
| === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan | ||
| geser | for me the panel is "not there" after login (but ps aux lists gnome-panel), after "kill -1" the gnome-panel it slides in with all applets | 12:06 |
| geser | I use the OSS radeon driver if it makes a difference (so metacity gets used for WM) | 12:08 |
| didrocks | geser: did you just try to click on it rather than sending the SIGHUP? | 12:08 |
| geser | click on the free space where the panel should be? | 12:09 |
| didrocks | right | 12:10 |
| didrocks | it's just a reparenting issue making compiz not showing it IIRC | 12:10 |
| === oubiwann is now known as oubiwann-holiday | ||
| === oubiwann-holiday is now known as oubiwann_ | ||
| pitti | MacSlow: ah, I got notify-osd to build on natty; I created https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/notify-osd/link-gcc-4.5/+merge/45025 | 12:14 |
| geser | didrocks: I've restarted my computer to reproduce it; nothing happens when I click on the space where the panel should be (and I've no compiz process running, only metacity) | 12:14 |
| === oubiwann_ is now known as oubiwann | ||
| pitti | MacSlow: just in case someone else complains (some other folks were trying that as well) | 12:14 |
| MacSlow | pitti, ok... I've to complete the merge of a few patches. | 12:14 |
| geser | didrocks: anything else I should try before I kill it? | 12:15 |
| MacSlow | pitti, have not compiled it yet since I moved to natty | 12:15 |
| pitti | MacSlow: should be an easy one | 12:15 |
| pitti | MacSlow: I'll cherrypick it to the Ubuntu package for now and upload | 12:15 |
| didrocks | geser: no, really, you can kill it. that's weird… your default windowmanager is compiz or metacity? | 12:15 |
| MacSlow | pitti, ok... thanks for the heads up | 12:15 |
| geser | didrocks: how can I check it? I've selected the classic desktop in gdm and use auto-login (I had trouble to get fglrx, unity and dual-screen to work so I went back to radeon and classic desktop) | 12:17 |
| didrocks | geser: gconftool-2 -g /desktop/gnome/applications/window_manager/default | 12:18 |
| geser | didrocks: /usr/bin/metacity | 12:19 |
| didrocks | geser: ok, so your issue is different from compiz one. compiz isn't run at all on your machine (even not fallbacking in metacity) | 12:20 |
| didrocks | geser: just in case: gconftool-2 --get /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager | 12:20 |
| geser | didrocks: compiz | 12:21 |
| didrocks | geser: oh ok, sorry, I misread the script then, compiz runs (the other key is deprecated) and then fallback to metacity | 12:22 |
| didrocks | something wrong seems to happens though… | 12:22 |
| didrocks | to mimic that, I'll retry on a virtualbox without guest additions | 12:22 |
| didrocks | oh, just a test, if you metacity --replace, what happens? | 12:22 |
| geser | didrocks: should I unset my default wm value to get the default? (this system got installed several releases ago and I don't remember every change I once did in the past) | 12:22 |
| didrocks | geser: well, the default is gnome-wm and it will finally try to run compiz, so same effect, don't bother | 12:23 |
| didrocks | just if you can make the other test, it will helps | 12:23 |
| didrocks | help* | 12:24 |
| geser | didrocks: my running gnome-terminals flicker shortly but still now gnome-panel (but many warnings from metacity in the terminal) | 12:24 |
| didrocks | hum, ok, not related to bad reparenting then. I have no clue for now :( I'll have a try in a virtualbox | 12:25 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| pitti | seb128: heads-up: I renamed the various "lpbindings" directories on lillypilly to "*.disabled", as lillypilly got upgraded to lucid; should be recent enough now | 12:32 |
| pitti | seb128: and using the local one causes tons of python warnings and cron spam | 12:32 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks, I noticed that as well | 12:32 |
| seb128 | pitti, I just ran into that a few minutes ago while trying to figure why the versions page was outdated | 12:34 |
| pitti | I also get crashes | 12:34 |
| pitti | File "/home/platform/desktop/versions/lpbinding/launchpadlib/httplib2/__init__.py", line 736, in connect | 12:34 |
| pitti | sock.settimeout(self.timeout) | 12:34 |
| pitti | File "<string>", line 1, in settimeout | 12:34 |
| pitti | TypeError: a float is required | 12:34 |
| pitti | seb128: do you get that, too? | 12:34 |
| seb128 | that's the same crash version has | 12:34 |
| seb128 | yes | 12:34 |
| nessita | hello everyone! | 12:35 |
| seb128 | hey nessita, happy new year! | 12:35 |
| seb128 | how are you? | 12:35 |
| Shred00 | how can i tell if my .bzr checkout is from "maverick" or "maverick-updates"? | 12:35 |
| pitti | hey nessita, how are you? | 12:35 |
| nessita | seb128: happy new year to you too! :-) | 12:35 |
| nessita | pitti: pretty pretty good! you? | 12:35 |
| didrocks | happy new year nessita :) | 12:37 |
| nessita | didrocks: thanks! happy new year for you as well | 12:38 |
| pitti | seb128: hm, when I run versions manually, I get an LP auth dialog; is the credential stored in lpbinding/? | 12:38 |
| seb128 | pitti, no | 12:38 |
| pitti | anyway, working now | 12:39 |
| pitti | (the auth bit) | 12:39 |
| pitti | let's see how far it gets | 12:39 |
| seb128 | pitti, it should be in .launchpadlib | 12:39 |
| pitti | how long does this usually run? | 12:39 |
| seb128 | in the user dir | 12:39 |
| seb128 | 3 minutes | 12:39 |
| pitti | seb128: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/desktop/versions.html looks ok to you? | 12:41 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, I was wrong | 12:41 |
| seb128 | versions.py:lp_cred = os.path.abspath('./lpbinding/ubuntu-desktop-cred') | 12:41 |
| pitti | no error | 12:41 |
| seb128 | pitti, yes, it's fine | 12:42 |
| pitti | seb128: ok, it created lpbinding with the cookie and cache | 12:42 |
| seb128 | pitti, so the credential was in lpbinding/ubuntu-desktop-cred | 12:42 |
| pitti | I gave it "read public", so should be ok | 12:42 |
| seb128 | ok | 12:42 |
| seb128 | thanks | 12:42 |
| * seb128 hugs pitti | 12:42 | |
| pitti | /build/buildd/notify-osd-0.9.29/./configure: line 2823: GNOME_COMMON_INIT: command not found | 12:49 |
| pitti | that's what I get on the buildds when I enable dh_autoreconf | 12:49 |
| pitti | probably a missing build dep | 12:49 |
| pitti | does that ring a bell for anyone? | 12:49 |
| * pitti -> lunch, bbl | 12:50 | |
| seb128 | pitti, you need to bd on gnome-common | 12:53 |
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| cyphermox | good morning!! | 13:02 |
| didrocks | hey cyphermox! happy new year :) | 13:02 |
| cyphermox | hey didrocks! same to you :) | 13:02 |
| cyphermox | while I have your attention... I'm struggling with a unity hack :) | 13:04 |
| didrocks | struggling, litterally? :) | 13:05 |
| rodrigo_ | bbiab | 13:10 |
| === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan | ||
| === oubiwann is now known as oubiwann_ | ||
| === oubiwann_ is now known as oubiwann | ||
| bcurtiswx | Happy new year to all. Off to work I go | 13:23 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| pitti | seb128: thanks | 13:33 |
| nessita | pitti: ping | 13:36 |
| pitti | hey nessita | 13:37 |
| nessita | pitti: hey, I can't find the chat log were you (and some others) talked about dropping a package (evolution-couchdb I think?) from the CD, and letting the Ubuntu One Control Panel install it if needed. Would you have that piece of info available somewhere? I want to check that what I just said is correct or not | 13:37 |
| nessita | s/were/where/ | 13:38 |
| pitti | nessita: I think it was spread over phone calls and some private mails, so I'm afraid I can't point to it | 13:38 |
| pitti | nessita: it's one item in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/performance-desktop-n-install-footprint, though | 13:38 |
| nessita | pitti: oh, ok. Any idea who is best to ask about that? | 13:39 |
| seb128 | it was discussing in a team meeting as well iirc | 13:39 |
| seb128 | nessita, jasoncwarner | 13:39 |
| seb128 | he has been in the discussions about that and should be able to point you to notes or people concerned by it | 13:40 |
| nessita | seb128: right, thanks. Though I think I just found the piece of info I was looking for: "If we still need more space, drop evolution-couchdb from default install, which drops couchdb and erlang (6.7 MB)If we drop evo-couchdb, install evolution-couchdb when enabling it in the U1 control panel" | 13:41 |
| seb128 | nessita, ok, feel free to ask if you want details | 13:42 |
| seb128 | I think the item changed slightly | 13:42 |
| nessita | seb128, pitti: I already proposed a branch where the u1cp installs evo-couchdb if not present. Shall I let him know? | 13:42 |
| pitti | nessita: oh, sweet! please do | 13:42 |
| seb128 | nessita, yes please do | 13:42 |
| pitti | nessita: that's something I planned to look into during the rallye, but seems you are way ahead of us then :) | 13:42 |
| seb128 | nessita, I think the plan is to drop it from the CD anyway, having extra translations for example instead would be a better deal for users | 13:43 |
| nessita | pitti: I'm trying to gain space on the CD for the control panel itself :-D | 13:43 |
| seb128 | if we can easily install things on demand | 13:43 |
| pitti | nessita: but landing this branch makes sense either way, both for people who uninstalled it and want it back, for custom installs, and derivatives | 13:43 |
| nessita | pitti: right | 13:43 |
| pitti | right, especially for services which need network anyway, like U1 | 13:43 |
| pitti | it just must be discoverable and easy to install what's needed | 13:44 |
| pitti | fortunately aptdaemon makes that really nice these days | 13:44 |
| * pitti hugs mvo and glatzor | 13:44 | |
| nessita | indeed, I used aptdaemon for the implementation and it went really well | 13:44 |
| * nessita hugs too | 13:44 | |
| pitti | seb128: two more megabytes on i386, and we can put back French! | 13:44 |
| seb128 | pitti, waouh! | 13:45 |
| nessita | pitti: we need room for the control panel! | 13:45 |
| ari-tczew | pitti: I saw that you've added autoreconf support to notify-osd. I'm doing the same with lxpanel, but it built fail. can you help me? | 13:45 |
| pitti | ari-tczew: you've got a lot? | 13:45 |
| pitti | ari-tczew: sorry, "log" | 13:45 |
| ari-tczew | pitti: yeah, I'm sending on pastebin | 13:46 |
| * didrocks hugs pitti for French being back :) | 13:46 | |
| pitti | didrocks: it's not yet.. | 13:47 |
| ari-tczew | pitti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/549826/ | 13:47 |
| kenvandine | happy new year everyone | 13:47 |
| didrocks | pitti: it's just a "persuasive" hug :) | 13:47 |
| didrocks | hey kenvandine, happy new year | 13:47 |
| pitti | hey kenvandine, happy new year! | 13:49 |
| pitti | ari-tczew: "config.status:2185: error: po/Makefile.in.in was not created by intltoolize" -- hm, haven't seen that yet; does it work locally? | 13:49 |
| ari-tczew | pitti: dunno, I'm not familiar :( how can I check it? | 13:50 |
| pitti | ari-tczew: I mean, is that from the Launchpad builders, or a local build? | 13:50 |
| ari-tczew | pitti: pbuilder on my desktop | 13:50 |
| Amaranth | hmm, I have a feeling unity-panel-service just crashed but i didn't get an apport dialog | 13:51 |
| Amaranth | all my windows got their menus back and my indicators reloaded | 13:51 |
| pitti | ari-tczew: so, presumably a simple autoreconf isn't enough, and you perhaps need gnome-autogen.sh? | 13:52 |
| pitti | ari-tczew: (this is all pretty black magic to me, too..) | 13:52 |
| pitti | Amaranth: something recent in ls -l /var/crash/ ? | 13:53 |
| didrocks | Amaranth: that can happen if you have another user crash in /var/crash/. | 13:53 |
| Amaranth | pitti: nope, nothing at all in there | 13:53 |
| ari-tczew | pitti: dunno. previous package had 99* patch for autoreconf. Now I'd like to drop it and support by debian/rules. | 13:53 |
| pitti | Amaranth: did you enable apport in /etc/default/apport ? | 13:54 |
| * glatzor hugs happy aptdaemon users nessita and pitti :) | 13:54 | |
| glatzor | servus! | 13:55 |
| Amaranth | bah, enabled=0 | 13:55 |
| mvo | hey glatzor | 13:55 |
| glatzor | hey mvo ! | 13:55 |
| mvo | glatzor: happy new year! | 13:55 |
| glatzor | happy new year! | 13:55 |
| Amaranth | I thought that automatically flipped when using a development version | 13:55 |
| pitti | Amaranth: I think we'll enable it by default in alpha-2 | 13:55 |
| * bcurtiswx_ waves to room | 13:55 | |
| pitti | hey bcurtiswx_ | 13:55 |
| bcurtiswx_ | hey pitti | 13:55 |
| didrocks | hey bcurtiswx_ | 13:56 |
| bcurtiswx_ | hey didrocks :) | 13:56 |
| bcurtiswx_ | happy new year to everyone | 13:56 |
| didrocks | happy new year to you too :) | 13:56 |
| seb128 | pitti, the error you listed before is an autopoint thing, didrocks and mterry knows about it | 13:56 |
| seb128 | iirc | 13:56 |
| seb128 | hey bcurtiswx, happy new year! | 13:57 |
| bcurtiswx_ | hey seb128, thx :) | 13:57 |
| pitti | ari-tczew: so perhaps try adding an "autopoint" build dependency as a first try? | 13:58 |
| mterry | pitti, yeah, if you specify AUTOPOINT=true at the top of debian/rules | 13:59 |
| mterry | pitti, you can avoid running autopoint and screwing up po/Makefile.in.in | 13:59 |
| ari-tczew | pitti: it is | 13:59 |
| ari-tczew | mterry: trying | 14:00 |
| mterry | ari-tczew, oh sorry, thought pitti was the stuck one :) | 14:00 |
| pitti | mterry: thanks anyway, though! good to know | 14:01 |
| pitti | mterry: and happy new year! had some nice holidays? | 14:01 |
| mterry | pitti, yeah! Lots of food :) | 14:02 |
| ari-tczew | mterry: didn't help :( | 14:03 |
| mterry | ari-tczew, really? hmm | 14:06 |
| seb128 | hey mterry, happy new year! | 14:07 |
| mterry | ari-tczew, looking at anjuta (in which I dealt with this bug), I put "export AUTOPOINT = true" at the very top of debian/rules (right below #!/usr/bin/make line) | 14:07 |
| mterry | seb128, hi! | 14:07 |
| ari-tczew | mterry: now another FTBFS. dh_autoreconf: autoreconf -f -i returned exit code 2 | 14:11 |
| mterry | ari-tczew, I've not seen that error. Maybe start with a fresh directory? | 14:13 |
| ari-tczew | mterry: fresh directory? how? I'm dealing in pbuilder | 14:13 |
| mterry | ari-tczew, OK, then forget fresh directory idea :) | 14:14 |
| mterry | ari-tczew, there is no other message? Exit code 2 isn't much to go on | 14:14 |
| Laney | mterry: hey, happy new year | 14:15 |
| Laney | as a Christmas present to you, Banshee is ready to review | 14:15 |
| Laney | :) | 14:15 |
| mterry | Laney, :) I believe that's on asac's plate | 14:15 |
| Laney | it is? ok | 14:16 |
| mterry | I did the dependencies for ya though! | 14:16 |
| mterry | :) | 14:16 |
| Laney | upstream are asking about it so i'd appreciate reviews! | 14:16 |
| Laney | you did, thanks | 14:16 |
| ari-tczew | mterry: http://paste.ubuntu.com/549834/ | 14:16 |
| mterry | ari-tczew, it looks like you included one of the quote marks in at the end of the export line | 14:17 |
| Laney | asac: ^^^^^^^ could you add MIR reviewing banshee to your queue please | 14:17 |
| Laney | :) | 14:17 |
| pitti | mvo: we already talked a while ago about dropping srcpkgcache.bin by default; I | 14:45 |
| pitti | didn't notice any problem with that, but you had some concerns back then | 14:45 |
| mvo | pitti: I briefly talked about this with donkult, he played with that but said it did slow down stuff | 14:48 |
| pitti | mvo: which stuff? | 14:48 |
| mvo | pitti: like tab completion even breaks, I have not tried it independantly | 14:48 |
| mvo | pitti: and general all apt-cache releated stuff | 14:48 |
| pitti | mvo: I thought that used pkgcache.bin, not srcpkgcache? | 14:49 |
| mvo | pitti: right but pkgcache.bin is outdated there is no srcpkgcache to use as a template to build a new pkgcache.bin | 14:49 |
| pitti | mvo: ok, so we'll leave it on, and documented on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReducingDiskFootprint | 14:50 |
| pitti | mvo: thanks for checking! | 14:50 |
| mvo | pitti: I would suggest keeping it and if speed does not matter, then removing both | 14:51 |
| mvo | pitti: but I will talk to donkult again (and look at the source) to see why we actually need them both, i'm not sure that this is still a valid design nowdays (in 2011 ;) | 14:51 |
| pitti | mvo: it does seem to be a lot of duplicated caching indeed | 14:52 |
| ari-tczew | mterry: thanks!!!! | 14:59 |
| mterry | ari-tczew, it works? hot | 15:00 |
| ari-tczew | mterry: however, dunno why, during build my PC has been crashed :P | 15:00 |
| ari-tczew | mterry: yes, It works! | 15:00 |
| mterry | ari-tczew, not my fault! ;) | 15:00 |
| ari-tczew | mterry: yes I'm kidding | 15:00 |
| mterry | phew :) | 15:01 |
| ari-tczew | btw guys are you affected by bug in bzr? | 15:02 |
| ari-tczew | on natty | 15:02 |
| pitti | ari-tczew: if you do lp:... addresses | 15:03 |
| pitti | ari-tczew: pythohn2.6 /usr/bin/bzr ... | 15:03 |
| pitti | -h | 15:03 |
| ari-tczew | pitti: MHM, cdbs has suggested it on bug 693880 | 15:04 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 693880 in bzr (Debian) (and 3 other projects) "_ReportingFileSocket.readline lacks size argument (affects: 29) (dups: 10) (heat: 160)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/693880 | 15:04 |
| seb128 | hum | 15:10 |
| seb128 | pitti, seems the cron job on people is not running? | 15:10 |
| pitti | seb128: oh? should be | 15:11 |
| seb128 | neither the wi tracker nor versions got updated since your manual run | 15:11 |
| pitti | WI tracker works fine | 15:11 |
| seb128 | hum | 15:11 |
| seb128 | are you sure? | 15:11 |
| pitti | yes | 15:11 |
| seb128 | http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ | 15:11 |
| pitti | I didn't run the WI tracker manually | 15:11 |
| pitti | but it finally updated after lunch | 15:11 |
| seb128 | canonical-desktop-team-natty-alpha-2.html03-Jan-2011 14:35 46K | 15:11 |
| seb128 | shouldn't it run every hour? | 15:11 |
| pitti | it's running now | 15:12 |
| pitti | seb128: that was 45 mins ago :) | 15:12 |
| mvo | pitti: btw, I recently did a natty install and there was no /var/crash, what is creating it these days ? | 15:12 |
| pitti | mvo: /etc/init/apport.conf, when enabled | 15:12 |
| seb128 | pitti, hum, ok, so it's only versions | 15:13 |
| seb128 | "HTTP Error 401: Unauthorized" | 15:13 |
| seb128 | hum no, that's an old emaikl | 15:13 |
| seb128 | 15:13 | |
| pitti | uh? I ran it manually just fine | 15:13 |
| seb128 | well it didn't update since | 15:14 |
| seb128 | but there is no error either | 15:14 |
| seb128 | doh, it did | 15:14 |
| seb128 | pitti, ignore me | 15:14 |
| pitti | ok :) was about to check it | 15:14 |
| mvo | pitti: aha, nice, thanks | 15:14 |
| seb128 | the clock on those is one hour off compared to us | 15:14 |
| pitti | yes, British time | 15:15 |
| seb128 | stupid timezones :p | 15:15 |
| bcurtiswx_ | kenvandine, empathy patches for the indicator and LP integration are all screwed up still and I wouldn't know how to fix them. When you get a moment today I'd like to chat with you about it. | 15:22 |
| kenvandine | bcurtiswx_, sure | 15:22 |
| kenvandine | got a bzr branch ? | 15:22 |
| bcurtiswx_ | kenvandine, yes I'm just about to push to it, one sec | 15:23 |
| bcurtiswx_ | kenvandine, https://code.launchpad.net/~bcurtiswx/ubuntu/natty/empathy/empathy-2.91.4.3 | 15:26 |
| bcurtiswx_ | kenvandine, it built from source fine (with the exception of disabling webkit temporarily), so it's something with our patches that's causing it to fail | 15:27 |
| bcurtiswx_ | kenvandine, you'll need the gnome3 PPA | 15:27 |
| kenvandine | bcurtiswx_, ug | 15:28 |
| kenvandine | paste me the build log :) | 15:28 |
| mvo | seb128: I merged your branch, many thanks. if you don't mind, could you give it a quick test run again before I upload? I modified it a little bit along the way | 15:28 |
| mvo | seb128: cleaning up some of the other cruft that it accumulated over the time | 15:28 |
| seb128 | mvo, sure, just running from trunk? | 15:29 |
| bcurtiswx_ | kenvandine, haha, sure. let me run it again. It'll be a few minutes. bzr bd > buildlog.txt ? | 15:29 |
| kenvandine | bcurtiswx_, just copy the end of the output | 15:29 |
| kenvandine | where the failure is | 15:29 |
| bcurtiswx_ | OK | 15:29 |
| seb128 | hey kenvandine, happy new year | 15:30 |
| kenvandine | hey seb128, happy new year! | 15:30 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx_, there is a.build with the log in build-area after the build | 15:30 |
| bcurtiswx_ | seb128, thanks, i did not know that | 15:30 |
| mvo | seb128: yep | 15:32 |
| bcurtiswx_ | kenvandine, http://paste.ubuntu.com/549861/ | 15:35 |
| * kenvandine looks | 15:36 | |
| kenvandine | bcurtiswx_, ok, looks like part of the patch is missing | 15:36 |
| dpm | pitti, quick question someone has asked me and I could not answer: at the technical level, why are the -en language packs necessary at all (except for providing variants such as en_UK and such)? | 15:38 |
| dpm | I mean, why are they always installed? | 15:39 |
| bcurtiswx_ | kenvandine, which patch and missing? | 15:39 |
| kenvandine | the indicator patch | 15:41 |
| didrocks | oh "nice": if you have both gir1.2-gtk-2.0 and gir1.2-gtk-3.0 installed and try repository.require("Gtk", "2.0"), you get: | 15:41 |
| didrocks | gi.RepositoryError: Requiring namespace 'Gtk' version '2.0', but '3.0' is already loaded | 15:41 |
| didrocks | pitti: any idea? ^^ | 15:41 |
| kenvandine | bcurtiswx_, but looking at your branch, it looks like the patch is complete | 15:41 |
| bcurtiswx_ | kenvandine, the patches all get pushed in fine | 15:41 |
| kenvandine | i am looking | 15:42 |
| didrocks | maybe, we should load gtk before webkit | 15:42 |
| mterry | didrocks, this isn't helpful, but PyGI folks have told me that Gtk 2.0 is specifically not guaranteed to work and likely is broken | 15:47 |
| didrocks | mterry: that's the kind of news which are good for starting a new year, thanks! :) | 15:48 |
| didrocks | ok, then, having the two binary packages doesn't make sense :/ | 15:48 |
| aquarius | so if I'm writing a Python program which is using Gtk and Webkit, and I want Gtk 2, I should just use the old-fashioned static bindings? I thought the whole point was to use all this beautiful g-i stuff? | 15:49 |
| mterry | didrocks, it *might* work. I haven't tried in a while. But that was their response when I found issues with gtk2.0 & pygi | 15:49 |
| didrocks | mterry: ok, thanks for the notice :) | 15:50 |
| mterry | didrocks, but at the time, require() worked. I think you're right, that something else is pulling in 3.0 before you are calling require() | 15:50 |
| aquarius | didrocks, maybe I should just use the old-fashioned static bindings, then. I mean, the program's trivial anyway :) | 15:50 |
| didrocks | aquarius: the good news is that you will have dep detection at least :) (try to postive) :) | 15:50 |
| mterry | aquarius, yeah, old fashioned for gtk2 is my recommendation | 15:50 |
| didrocks | be positive* | 15:50 |
| aquarius | didrocks, yeah, I like that. I was only using g-i because I thought That's What You're Supposed To Do These Days :) | 15:51 |
| kenvandine | bcurtiswx_, i do need more of the build log, can you just get me the whole thing? | 15:51 |
| bcurtiswx_ | kenvandine, yes. kenvandine@ubuntu.com ? | 16:06 |
| kenvandine | ken.vandine | 16:06 |
| bcurtiswx_ | kenvandine, i have your canonical one in auto complete.. lol.. that one ok? | 16:08 |
| kenvandine | sure | 16:09 |
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| mterry | smspillaz, heyo. Does an approval for a merge mean you want me to commit (I don't have write access) or is it part of a process where a branch needs (e.g.) 2 approvals? | 16:12 |
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| bcurtiswx_ | kenvandine, sent :) | 16:15 |
| smspillaz | mterry: not sure, but I'll commit it in any case | 16:20 |
| smspillaz | mterry: thanks for finding that :) | 16:20 |
| didrocks | mterry: smspillaz: one is enough | 16:20 |
| mterry | smspillaz, cool, thanks. I really hate that bug | 16:21 |
| mterry | :) | 16:22 |
| smspillaz | mterry: I was worried that it was really NULL pointers in screen->windows () in which case I was going to be in a world of hurt | 16:22 |
| mterry | smspillaz, heh | 16:22 |
| asac | Laney: ok looking into it | 16:22 |
| rodrigo_ | my system is borked | 16:24 |
| rodrigo_ | pitti, you dist-upgrade'd today? | 16:25 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: yes | 16:25 |
| pitti | my morning exercise :) | 16:25 |
| rodrigo_ | :) | 16:25 |
| rickspencer3 | hey pitti, good afternoon ... no holiday today for you? | 16:25 |
| pitti | hey rickspencer3, happy new year! | 16:26 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: no, two weeks were quite enough :) | 16:26 |
| rickspencer3 | Happy New Year to you! | 16:26 |
| rickspencer3 | kenvandine, hey, so, gwibber can't find the WebView module? | 16:26 |
| kenvandine | hey rickspencer3, happy new year | 16:27 |
| kenvandine | yeah, known bug | 16:27 |
| rickspencer3 | hi kenvandine! | 16:27 |
| kenvandine | upgrade problem with python and webkit | 16:27 |
| kenvandine | one sec | 16:27 |
| rickspencer3 | kenvandine, I figured as much, is there a work around? | 16:27 |
| bratsche | Happy New Year, desktop hackers! | 16:27 |
| rickspencer3 | hey bratsche | 16:27 |
| pitti | hey bratsche, happy new year! | 16:27 |
| didrocks | rickspencer3: try with python 2.6 | 16:27 |
| rickspencer3 | hmmm | 16:27 |
| didrocks | rickspencer3: we just saw something similar with aquarius some minutes ago | 16:28 |
| rickspencer3 | well, I think then other modules won't be found | 16:28 |
| kenvandine | bug #688732 | 16:28 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 688732 in pywebkitgtk (Ubuntu) "package no longer has WebView attribute after transition to python 2.7 (affects: 24) (dups: 9) (heat: 331)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/688732 | 16:28 |
| bcurtiswx_ | kenvandine, aww beat me to it | 16:28 |
| kenvandine | breaks miro too | 16:28 |
| bratsche | It seems like bzr doesn't work well with Python 2.7 either. | 16:28 |
| kenvandine | well, anything with webkit | 16:28 |
| kenvandine | bratsche, yeah, gotta specify the full path | 16:28 |
| aquarius | things to do: break every webkit/python program that's ever existed. Backwards compatibility ftw, not. :) | 16:28 |
| rickspencer3 | heh | 16:29 |
| bcurtiswx_ | bratsche, balil has a patch for it.. i forget where it is tho | 16:29 |
| rickspencer3 | $sudo rm -rf /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/webkit/ | 16:29 |
| kenvandine | bug #693880 | 16:29 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 693880 in bzr (Debian) (and 4 other projects) "_ReportingFileSocket.readline lacks size argument (affects: 31) (dups: 11) (heat: 176)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/693880 | 16:29 |
| rickspencer3 | seems a bit brute force, but if works, I'll take it ;) | 16:29 |
| bratsche | bcurtiswx_: For now I got it working by just doing "/usr/bin/python2.6 /usr/bin/bzr ..." | 16:30 |
| kenvandine | rickspencer3, it doesn't happen on new installs | 16:30 |
| kenvandine | bcurtiswx_, found your build failure... part of that libindicate patch isn't applying | 16:32 |
| kenvandine | for src/Makefile.am | 16:33 |
| kenvandine | not sure why though, it is clearly in the patch | 16:33 |
| kenvandine | but not ending up in the source tree | 16:33 |
| seb128 | no way | 16:33 |
| seb128 | it might end up in the wrong directory though | 16:33 |
| bcurtiswx_ | kenvandine, this is where idk what i'd do | 16:33 |
| seb128 | what is in the diff there? | 16:34 |
| seb128 | what dir is being listed? | 16:34 |
| kenvandine | dir looks right | 16:34 |
| kenvandine | and diffstat isn't showing the changes | 16:34 |
| kenvandine | bcurtiswx_, i am fixing :) | 16:35 |
| rickspencer3 | bratsche, add pixbuf_add_alpha just adds a color to be an alpha channel, a color that will be transparent, I want to make whole images translucent | 16:35 |
| bcurtiswx_ | kenvandine, what (in general) are you doing.. so I know what to do in the future | 16:35 |
| bcurtiswx_ | and how would I know from that build log that the patch wasn't applying fully | 16:35 |
| kenvandine | i am just manually merging the changes i see in the patch to the source and i'll create a new patch | 16:35 |
| kenvandine | the build log failed to link | 16:35 |
| seb128 | where is the source you work on? | 16:35 |
| kenvandine | it wasn't finding symbols | 16:36 |
| bratsche | rickspencer3: Okay, I didn't know what you meant then I guess. | 16:36 |
| kenvandine | seb128, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bcurtiswx/ubuntu/natty/empathy/empathy-2.91.4.3/annotate/head%3A/debian/patches/20_libindicate.patch | 16:36 |
| rickspencer3 | bratsche, it's hard to discuss and Google for, because interchange "opacity", "translucent", "alpha", "transparency", etc... | 16:36 |
| bratsche | heh, yeah. | 16:37 |
| kenvandine | seb128, look at src/Makefile.am in there | 16:37 |
| rickspencer3 | anyway, I thought of maybe a better way ... I could add an alpha channel of a certain color, and then composite the image with that color | 16:37 |
| kenvandine | everything from line 159 down aren't making it in the patched src/Makefile.am | 16:37 |
| bratsche | rickspencer3: Oh, I get it.. so you're trying to apply the same alpha value all over the image? | 16:38 |
| rickspencer3 | bratsche, right | 16:38 |
| bratsche | rickspencer3: Makes sense. Yeah, surprising that there isn't a simpler way to do that. | 16:38 |
| bcurtiswx_ | kenvandine, seb128: i added the @@ -121,5 +124,8 @@ section because (i forget who) mentioned those might need to end up there | 16:38 |
| bcurtiswx_ | might have been rickspencer3 | 16:38 |
| bratsche | rickspencer3: It would be a simple API to add though. | 16:38 |
| rickspencer3 | bratsche, well, then, by all means! | 16:39 |
| rickspencer3 | :) | 16:39 |
| bcurtiswx_ | kenvandine, so it was probably bad patch writing by me :( | 16:39 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx_, did you edit the patch by hand? | 16:40 |
| bcurtiswx_ | seb128, yes and pushed it with quilt and refreshed it and committed it to the bzr | 16:41 |
| bcurtiswx_ | all went OK there | 16:41 |
| kenvandine | bcurtiswx_, ah... hand editting is usually a bad idea :) | 16:41 |
| bcurtiswx_ | kenvandine, what is the appropriate way then? | 16:42 |
| bratsche | rickspencer3: btw, I thought you might be into this - http://www.npr.org/2011/01/03/132436422/first-listen-the-decemberists-the-king-is-dead | 16:42 |
| * bcurtiswx_ is still learning proper practices | 16:42 | |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx_, quilt push, edit the file you want to edit and quilt refresh | 16:42 |
| bcurtiswx_ | seb128, but don't edit the patch directly ? | 16:43 |
| seb128 | you can if you know what you are doing | 16:43 |
| seb128 | it's easy to screw a patch when editing it manually | 16:43 |
| bcurtiswx_ | seb128, OK, thought I did, had a quick lesson on what everything meant. I will just push it , edit the file (not the patch) and refresh. Thx :) | 16:43 |
| kenvandine | bcurtiswx_, there is another part of your change that worries me | 16:44 |
| kenvandine | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bcurtiswx/ubuntu/natty/empathy/empathy-2.91.4.3/revision/158 | 16:44 |
| kenvandine | starting at line 1337 | 16:44 |
| kenvandine | you removed a bunch of unrefs | 16:44 |
| kenvandine | and more | 16:44 |
| kenvandine | well, one unref | 16:45 |
| kenvandine | and where the indicator is created | 16:45 |
| bcurtiswx_ | kenvandine, hum. even scarier for me. I don't remember touching that section of code | 16:45 |
| kenvandine | it changed in your latest revision | 16:46 |
| seb128 | well seems the revision before is the one where you did manual editing in the patch | 16:46 |
| seb128 | so if the format is corrupted it might have leaded to other issues on the refresh | 16:46 |
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| kenvandine | bcurtiswx_, probably best to revert that last revision, undo the manual editing and fix it again | 16:47 |
| bcurtiswx_ | seb128, well the edits to the non 20_libindicate were just changes in the upstream code, so I had to tell the patch how to re-identify where to apply the patch | 16:47 |
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| bcurtiswx_ | seb128, is there a better way to do that than manual patch editing ? | 16:48 |
| bcurtiswx_ | how do I revert in bzr | 16:50 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx_, not sure how you did the editing | 16:50 |
| seb128 | usual way is quilt -f patch | 16:50 |
| seb128 | edit the file to reapply the change | 16:50 |
| seb128 | refresh | 16:50 |
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| asac | seb128: Laney: is banshee going to replace rhythmbox? | 17:01 |
| seb128 | asac, yes | 17:12 |
| seb128 | asac, well it's going to be the default player for new installs, we will not replace on upgrade | 17:13 |
| asac | seb128: just UNE or everywhere now? | 17:13 |
| seb128 | asac, there is no UNE, we only have 1 edition | 17:13 |
| asac | seb128: ok ... are you guys sure about this? or is it just a mood that might change end of cycle? ;) after all its mono and thats a big PITA :/ | 17:14 |
| seb128 | we are sure about it for this cycle | 17:14 |
| seb128 | we can revisit if rhythmbox catches up, but right now banshee has lot of manpower compared to rb | 17:15 |
| asac | seb128: is there proper indicator support for banshee? | 17:15 |
| seb128 | sort of | 17:15 |
| seb128 | we don't have an indicators for players anymore | 17:15 |
| seb128 | they just talk mpris over dbus | 17:16 |
| jcastro | there's full sound menu support (just kind of buggy for me right now) | 17:16 |
| seb128 | but banshee does that and better than rb (support playlists) | 17:16 |
| asac | ok approved, milestoned the arm bug and dropping out | 17:17 |
| Laney | thanks asac | 17:17 |
| Laney | please seed! yay! | 17:18 |
| jcastro | \o/ | 17:18 |
| asac | np | 17:18 |
| jcastro | Laney: you are legend. | 17:18 |
| jcastro | Laney: what did the space swap end up costing? iirc last I looked at it it was within a meg or two? | 17:18 |
| Laney | haven't crunched it yet, but something like that | 17:19 |
| seb128 | asac, thanks! | 17:21 |
| dobey | pitti: still around? | 17:22 |
| bcurtiswx_ | "<seb128> usual way is quilt -f patch, edit file to reapply, refresh".. so when a patch file fails because of an upstream function rename, would it be better to edit the patch directly in this case, since the patch doesn't apply ? | 17:27 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx_, usually editing a name or a line is fine, editing the magic numbers and the patch format is not as easy | 17:32 |
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| czajkowski | kenvandine: you by any chance back from holidays ? | 17:44 |
| kenvandine | czajkowski, yup | 17:45 |
| kenvandine | czajkowski, happy new year :) | 17:45 |
| dobey | i guess pitti is not still around | 17:47 |
| czajkowski | kenvandine: welcome back :) | 17:47 |
| kenvandine | thx :) | 17:47 |
| * bryceh waves | 17:48 | |
| kenvandine | hey bryceh | 17:48 |
| kenvandine | czajkowski, what can i do for you? | 17:48 |
| Amaranth | mterry: so the CompWindow::id() crash was actually a bug in unity then? | 17:48 |
| mterry | Amaranth, seems that way | 17:48 |
| czajkowski | kenvandine: and sure as you're here I've a gwibber question for you :) on the special laptop, when I've my multi column up and running gwibber sounds like it's about to take off eating CPU and in the last 2 weeks very slow to update columns, waiting almost an hour now for it to update main tweets. | 17:49 |
| Amaranth | mterry: phew, was worried smspillaz would wait until the rally and make me help figure out why screen->windows was getting NULLs :) | 17:49 |
| mterry | Amaranth, :) | 17:49 |
| kenvandine | czajkowski, ugh... humm | 17:49 |
| kenvandine | czajkowski, can you send me the sqlite db? | 17:49 |
| czajkowski | kenvandine: last time I updated this machine was about 3-4 wks ago before xmas and not used it much over the hols so only really noticed how bad it was over the last 2 days | 17:50 |
| kenvandine | ~/.config/gwibber/gwibber.sqlite | 17:50 |
| kenvandine | and the log | 17:50 |
| kenvandine | ~/.cache/gwibber/gwibber.log | 17:50 |
| kenvandine | czajkowski, also... FYI, identi.ca is broken... for everyone | 17:50 |
| kenvandine | they changes the SSL cert | 17:51 |
| dobey | hey kenvandine | 17:51 |
| kenvandine | s/changes/changed | 17:51 |
| kenvandine | hey dobey | 17:51 |
| czajkowski | kenvandine: ahh ok, but this was just general twitter. I also don't seem to be able to get the sqlite to open | 17:51 |
| dobey | kenvandine: is there anything with new gwibber that cleans out the old desktopcouch dbs for gwibber? | 17:51 |
| kenvandine | just email me the file | 17:51 |
| kenvandine | ken.vandine@ubuntu.com | 17:51 |
| czajkowski | ok | 17:51 |
| kenvandine | dobey, doesn't clean it out | 17:52 |
| dobey | :( | 17:52 |
| dobey | kenvandine: | 17:53 |
| dobey | grr | 17:53 |
| dobey | sorry, bad linux | 17:53 |
| dobey | kenvandine: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/595100 | 17:53 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 595100 in couchdb (Ubuntu) "~/.local/share/desktop-couch/.gwibber_messages_design stores too much space! (affects: 8) (heat: 40)" [Undecided,New] | 17:53 |
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| kenvandine | dobey, ugh... that sucks | 17:55 |
| dobey | yes | 17:55 |
| kenvandine | i complained when mine hit like 300M | 17:55 |
| czajkowski | kenvandine: the .sqlite is to large to send | 17:58 |
| dobey | sigh | 17:58 |
| dobey | dear firefox | 17:58 |
| dobey | STOP SCREWING UP MY SETTINGS | 17:58 |
| pitti | hi dobey | 17:58 |
| pitti | dobey: happy new year! | 17:58 |
| czajkowski | oh I may have gotten it out via gmail | 17:58 |
| seb128 | pitti, oh, still there ;-) | 17:58 |
| pitti | back from dinner, quickly (talking to my wife) | 17:59 |
| seb128 | pitti, is there any reason you didn't upload the gnome-desktop3 update from rodrigo? | 17:59 |
| seb128 | mterry, seems you screwed libcanberra in some way | 17:59 |
| seb128 | the gtk2 lib depends on the gtk3 one | 17:59 |
| dobey | pitti: hey! i guess i can bug you in the morning. no need to upset the wife :) | 18:00 |
| pitti | dobey: heh, ok | 18:00 |
| mterry | seb128, hrm | 18:00 |
| mterry | seb128, that does seem wrong | 18:00 |
| pitti | seb128: there were some problems with it (patches need updates), he said he wanted to fix them | 18:00 |
| seb128 | indeed! | 18:00 |
| pitti | ok, good night everyone then! | 18:00 |
| seb128 | pitti, oh ok, I saw that you merged in the vcs but didn't upload so I was wondering if that was an oversight | 18:00 |
| seb128 | 'night pitti! | 18:00 |
| rickspencer3 | good night pitti! | 18:00 |
| pitti | seb128: right, I needed to do some adaptions and asked him to pull first | 18:01 |
| czajkowski | kenvandine: thanks for looking at this btw | 18:01 |
| mterry | seb128, indeed, libcanberra-gtk0 depends on libcanberra-gtk3-0 | 18:01 |
| * mterry investigates | 18:01 | |
| seb128 | didrocks, could you comment on bug #696902? | 18:05 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 696902 in gnome-session (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "gnome-sessions new .desktop files missing from POTFILES.in (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/696902 | 18:05 |
| seb128 | the patch seems correct but I was not sure if sessions or strings were still to be updated or if you delayed translating those for a reason | 18:05 |
| didrocks | seb128: I already fixed in the packaging branch | 18:06 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ok, so comment to say that :p | 18:06 |
| seb128 | didrocks, thanks ;-) | 18:06 |
| didrocks | the other files aren't necessary | 18:06 |
| didrocks | I'll, thanks seb128 :) | 18:06 |
| seb128 | 'ci | 18:06 |
| seb128 | ok, time for some sport and dinner | 18:15 |
| seb128 | bbl | 18:15 |
| didrocks | see you seb128! enjoy | 18:17 |
| dobey | how do i make firefox preserve my settings correctly now? | 18:21 |
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| bcurtiswx_ | kenvandine, was GtkWindow *window changed in GTK3 ? | 19:30 |
| bcurtiswx_ | kenvandine, https://code.launchpad.net/~bcurtiswx/ubuntu/natty/empathy/empathy-2.91.4.3 with errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/549960/ | 19:41 |
| bcurtiswx_ | kenvandine, the code in question is in 31_really_raise_window.patch | 19:42 |
| kenvandine | bcurtiswx_, i thought you had already fixed that one | 20:08 |
| kenvandine | let me look at your branch | 20:08 |
| bcurtiswx_ | kenvandine, i went back fairly far | 20:09 |
| kenvandine | http://paste.ubuntu.com/549969/ | 20:11 |
| kenvandine | bcurtiswx_, that is what you had done before | 20:11 |
| bcurtiswx_ | kenvandine, thanks. | 20:15 |
| kenvandine | bcurtiswx_, np | 20:15 |
| bcurtiswx_ | kenvandine, http://paste.ubuntu.com/549977/ i hope this is new enough | 20:39 |
| bcurtiswx_ | kenvandine, seems to me it's stuff with the indicator functions not getting recognized.. but it's different than before | 20:52 |
| kenvandine | bcurtiswx_, looks like the same as before... when the Makefile.am wasn't updated | 21:19 |
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| bcurtiswx | kenvandine, what would my next step be. Is this a patching issue again? | 22:18 |
| cyphermox | heading home, bbl. | 22:23 |
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