[00:03] wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11January02 edited [00:20] Can we argue about some sort of crap tonight? Just for old times sake :D [00:20] * MarkDude kids, because he is a kidder [00:49] crap crap crap crap crap crap crap [01:04] stbuurto, are you a burrito? [01:05] No now you have made hungry. [01:06] Sorry. Hello, nice to meet you [01:06] I did not realize that I added an extra u in my I'd usually Stburto [01:07] And it is nice to meet you as well. [01:07] Np, I want to say hello to new folks and such [01:08] I am new to all of this ubuntu stuff so appreciate all the kindly advice you van give [01:09] Sure, what interests you? [01:09] Or do you think sounds interesting [01:10] I am trying setup ubuntu server and got great advice at the ubuntu hour [01:12] Drew asked me to help out on hosting the PA ubuntu hour [01:17] I am getting Coloquy setup on my different platforms. [01:21] What sort of machine are you putting it on? [01:21] colloquy is an irc client for mac os x [01:21] and iphone [01:22] Thats what I am using on both platforms [01:23] Just learning how to use it. [01:23] I am a disbled/retired geek from a different era [01:24] I started with the command line and now I am back to it. [01:25] heh [01:27] Has anyone on the forum rooted a Nook before? [01:27] Hi everyone, just wanted to introduce myself real quick [01:27] I am a systems admin from Mountain View, CA and wanted to check out the CA Ubuntu team [01:28] I got two of them for my birthday and would like to open one of them up to use apps and possibly develop apps as well. [01:30] wj, welcome, what systems do you admin for? [01:31] linux primarily [01:31] lots of centos 5 [01:31] but I am adding more ubuntu machines to the mix [01:31] :-) [01:31] stburto: from what i understand, rooting the nook is pretty straightforward, but i have not examined one [01:32] I lived in MV some time ago. A very nice community. I volunteered at KMVT for a while. [01:32] Yes, my wife and I are really enjoying it here [01:33] I live in Palo Alto and have volunteered at the Media Center here but not for some time. [01:34] very cool, Palo Alto is great too [01:35] Are you aware of the ubuntu hour that is scheduled in different locations including the Red Rock coffee shop in MV/ [01:36] Hello wjimenez5271 [01:36] And once the weather gets better, we shall have geeknics in full swing, we may have one at the Hacker Dojo in a month or 2 [01:39] thanks MarkDude [01:39] no I didn't [01:39] that sounds very interesting [01:39] does anybody have some base code for a bot? [01:39] my bot isn't connecting :( [01:40] supybot seems a popular base, at least on freenode [01:45] Hey all, I have to run it was nice talking to you [01:45] take care [01:48] later wjimenez5271 [01:48] Come back again :) [01:48] * MarkDude agrees with sn9 supybot has worked better for me [01:49] eggdrop stuff not as well [01:49] * MarkDude needs to get his GKbot working for #GidgetKitchen again [01:49] some bots are in perl [01:49] seidos, what sort of plugins did you want/use? [01:51] MarkDude, not looking for plugins, just want something robust that can connect O_o [01:51] i wonder if i could connect the bot through xchat, heh [01:51] trying to connect the bot i have through a terminal isn't working [01:56] * MarkDude has had better luck with Karmic than other ubuntu versions [01:56] Youare doin the use terminal to switch to another user routine? [01:57] 1/3 of the nicks in the channel are bots- we should ask one of them :D [01:59] sorry 1/10 [01:59] 10% duh [02:00] Greetings from Moony Florida everyone [02:02] ah, it looks like i got it working. it had a sleep command for some reason [02:03] MarkDude, same here. i am considering trying to upgrade to 10.04, but i don't know, i probably will keep a copy of karmic on a usb stick just in case. if it fails i'll take it to the noisebridge and/or ubuntu hour [02:03] greetings jdeslip [02:03] wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale9x edited [02:04] greetings [02:06] greetings grantbow [02:07] hi seidos [02:07] i'm at the san francisco zen center [02:07] they have a "hacker school" here that is starting up [02:07] there are 4 of us here [02:07] url? [02:09] jdeslip: you're in FL? [02:10] sn9: ya, visiting my parents [02:10] figures [02:11] grantbow, there's no official url yet. there's a "live journal page" if you're interested. [02:13] seidos, civil hackers at http://hscool.livejournal.com meeting at sfzc.org? sounds fun [02:13] grantbow, yeah, it's cool [02:15] I wonder how many people will be idling straight through the meeting - zen style [02:16] nobody [02:16] though i am trying to be mindful of my breath, zen style [02:18] I meant of the nicks in the channel how many won't be saying anything [02:20] let's wake a few up [02:20] [Sun 2011-01-02 06:20:48 PM PST] * Users on #ubuntu-us-ca: stburto stbuurto seidos jiboumans jdeslip pleia2 Flannel jledbetter nhaines @ChanServ grantbow mcgrof jussi [reed] paulproteus_ jamalta DarkwingDuck locobot_2 jtatum Eureka czajkowski itnet7 esrrms Yasumoto erichammond coherence YokoZar nUboon2Age MarkDude wjimenez5271 crashsystems1 ubuntulog_ aaditya outofjungle sn9 crashsystems [02:21] lol [02:21] that's one way [02:21] fffffffffffff [02:21] uu [02:22] Happy Holidays! [02:23] happy new years everyone :) [02:23] grantbow, long time no see.. how have you been? [02:23] pretty good, and you? [02:25] T - 25 minutes and counting [02:25] grantbow, ohhhh, you're talking about the ca meeting. [02:27] i'm doing pretty good too, looking forward to go to work tomorrow ;) [02:27] haha [02:36] if I could count... [02:36] grantbow: how was your holidays? [02:37] jdeslip: pretty good, and yours? [02:38] grantbow: Pretty good. Still going. I come back to Cali on Wednesday. === seidos is now known as emobots === emobots is now known as seidos [02:46] emobot? Makes me think of a bot with white powder on its face :) [02:49] sn9, the mass-ping works, but does ChanServ need be included? [02:50] Don't want it to feel left out of the pingspam, MarkDude. It might kick us all. [02:50] it's just a paste [02:50] hehe [02:52] Bots ignore their name if it is not the 1st word, good thing Eureka has been warned [02:52] it's configurable on supybot [02:52] s/on/with/ [02:59] almost meeting time... [03:00] * pleia2 waves [03:00] please stand up if you are here for the meeting [03:01] * sn9 sits on a highchair [03:01] waaaaaaaaaa [03:01] OK ----- Lets Begin ----- [03:01] I can't be here for long, nasty headache is making looking at my screen quite unpleasant :) [03:01] Since pleia2 can't be here long we are going to start with her two agenda items and do announcements at the end [03:02] The first topic is scale9x planning [03:02] https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale9x/ [03:02] I just added this because I'm going to request the conference pack from canonical this week, and that reminded me that we need to flesh out our wiki page and start seeing who is going [03:02] cool [03:02] We have a basic wiki page here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale9x [03:02] I bought my scale ticket, will be buying my plane ticket soon (hopefully tomorrow), I know some others are carpooling down [03:03] me! me! me! [03:03] If you are planning to come and work at the booth, please add your name there. Also, we are looking for volunteers to step up and flesh out that page [03:03] (I'm hoping to get in on some norcal carpool action) [03:03] I'm not sure if I can go yet. [03:04] also, who should we send the conference pack to? I'm flying so I'm clearly not a good choice [03:04] we can see who down in LA is going, probably send to someoen down there [03:04] If you haven't registered you can use the code that eric set up for us to get 50% off UBUCA [03:04] What is the schedule for setting up the booth? [03:04] only 50? [03:05] erichammond: thanks! [03:05] sn9: do you have a better code? [03:05] no [03:05] but last year the cinf pack included tickets [03:05] *conf [03:05] well, then... [03:06] erichammond: I am not sure about the setup schedule yet [03:06] I'm trying to figure out how early I would have to show up if I volunteered to bring anything. I'm not an early morning person. [03:06] can anyone from last year tell us what the schedule was like? [03:07] * MarkDude will be carpooling down [03:07] jdeslip, for the floor? [03:07] last year's wiki page is quite detailed [03:07] Attending the sessions is hard due to so many to choose from [03:08] for the floor, it would be much easier this year if people could sort some details around differing sessions [03:08] ok, sounds like we need to get some questions answered these next few days [03:08] MarkDude: eric asked about setup [03:09] Looks like setup was was 9am on saturday [03:09] who exactly got our booth, it is confirmed right? [03:09] grantbow: where is he? [03:09] * MarkDude talked to Gareth a while ago [03:09] meaning months [03:09] MarkDude: want me to follow up with him? [03:09] Yes [03:09] ok, will do [03:09] I will add details to the wiki once I confirm [03:09] He said we were included - since we were so nice [03:10] :D [03:10] so I'll also ask about setup time and everything [03:10] * MarkDude will bring Penguin suit [03:10] yay! [03:10] Sounds good [03:10] most likely I may be doing other stuff and cant help much [03:10] no worries [03:10] next agenda item? we can pick up scale stuff throughout the week [03:11] As always i am willing to talk or speak about some sort of crap [03:11] :) [03:11] hehe [03:11] Ok, so, again, add your name to the wiki page if you are coming. And if you have time, flesh out the page.... [03:11] Moving on. [03:11] I think I'll just let pelia2 take this one [03:11] err pleia2 [03:11] ok, so next agenda item is the team images sharing options [03:12] we discussed this on list since our last meeting, and based on responses I came up with this proposal: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/2011-January/001538.html [03:12] it gives us local, under our control copies, PLUS picasca/flickr which is good for displaying and from a social media angle [03:13] thoughts? [03:13] I like the plan. [03:14] I don't know that I'm going to be taking many photos for the group, but my preference would be to have my photos be under my control (Flickr, Smugmug, ...) with some sort of sharing with the group similar to how planet republishes blog entries. [03:14] Not sure if anything like that exists. [03:14] Once the pics are dumped somewhere safe and controlled and future proof then flickr/picasa adds a nice social layer [03:14] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2424094/Demographics%20Cali%20Team.png [03:14] unfortunately the problem we've had is people having them under their control on blogs and flickr have a tendancy of disappearing [03:15] their blog moves, their free number of flickr photos rotate them out of public view... [03:15] both is better :-) [03:15] * MarkDude thinks we should take the media and have it linked so folks can check it from Facebook, etc [03:15] You can always have your own picasa/flickr account as well [03:15] that pic is from the Cali Facebook insights [03:15] wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale9x edited [03:15] You don't *have* to also contribute the pics to the group pool. But, you have the option. [03:16] yeah, I'd say this is the option for people who want to contribute to the group pool [03:16] erichammond: I'd say for those photos which stay under personal control, you add a link to the event wiki pointing to them [03:17] jdeslip: does picasca have rss feeds? [03:17] pleia2: I *think* so [03:17] flickr does, we could always run a second planet for photos too, depending on how flexible the feeds are [03:17] Yep, it does. [03:18] cool, we should look into that [03:18] That would be pretty cool [03:18] so have a team flickr/picasca, then maybe see if we can have feeds for individuals who would rather keep them under their own control, add them all the the image planet [03:19] and I'll configure the upload place on the linode so we can store our local copies, just give me a nudge if you want access [03:19] so now the question is... flickr or picasca? [03:19] *picasa [03:19] - maybe we can add a message encouraging people to add them to the local directory when they add to flickr/picasa for logevity's sake [03:20] I don't care either way [03:20] jdeslip: yeah [03:20] I don't care a whole lot. But, I do prefer picasa because I use it already. (I'm sure others already use flickr) [03:20] Also, we did say we were going to make an effort to use Google apps [03:21] doesn't need to be either. just upload the images to the wiki [03:21] I prefer flickr because I'm familiar with the interface, but picasa is probably fine [03:21] aaditya: have an opinion? [03:21] no google app engine option for this at this time [03:21] Do either have easy automated upload from Ubuntu? [03:21] we spoke before I sent out the ideas list [03:21] I prefer flickr given a choice [03:21] works for 'pedia [03:21] (command line) [03:21] erichammond: both can upload easily from fspot [03:22] there is probably a CLI option anyway, they have APIs [03:22] s/anyway/too [03:22] the google cli stuff lets you upload to picasa [03:22] (from command line) [03:22] sn9: timtowtdi but we are talking about organizing in a central place [03:22] google cli? [03:22] I looked for cli for Flickr a while back (years?) and didn't find anything. [03:22] sn9: the ubuntu wiki does not have unlimited space, it's ok to upload a couple photos per event but it's a huge strain on the wiki which is already limping along [03:23] (http://code.google.com/p/googlecl/ - it is really sweet in general) [03:23] they semi-routinely clear out big/unlinked/outdated wiki attachments, so its not a permanent solution anyway [03:24] good to know [03:24] grantbow: you know how they are, they probably haven't done it in a year :) but it is a concern to be noted [03:25] * grantbow nods [03:25] If this is a really just a vote now about picasa-flickr perhaps we should vote on the list. Or... just vote now officially ;) [03:25] (but there aren't too many folks here tonight) [03:26] maybe just bring it on list, I'd also like to look into erichammond's comment about the possiblity that there isn't a flickr CLI upload option [03:26] It's not clear to me what Flickr/Picasa would be used for. If it's for the photo planet, then perhaps multiple services with an RSS feed would fit in. [03:27] Gotta run. Taking the kids to "Tangled". [03:27] looks like a cli exists [03:27] erichammond: loco.ubuntu.com has a display images option that works with flickr or picasca [03:27] plus it gives us a way to go back and browse past event photos, etc [03:27] erichammond: have fun! [03:27] Tangled is great, enjoy! [03:28] one way to flickr cli: http://lifehacker.com/262311/automatically-upload-a-folders-photos-to-flickr [03:28] OK - so we will vote on the list in the next week or so. [03:28] does picasca have image tags like flickr does? [03:28] sound good [03:28] I am going to go take care of my head now :) [03:29] ya, it does - name tags [03:29] ok, feel better [03:29] pleia2: take care :-) [03:29] hi [03:29] OK, so those were the only official agenda items. Does anyone have something to add? Or should we do the announcements? [03:30] Add Facebook to the overall plan [03:30] why? [03:30] MarkDude: What do you mean by that? [03:31] * MarkDude suggests that is how a big % of the people I deal with interact [03:31] an important site, but still a walled garden [03:31] professional types [03:31] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2424094/Demographics%20Cali%20Team.png [03:31] That is from the page [03:32] Having done this at ZA, we had 1000s of eyeballs seeing what we did [03:32] Social media worked well to get some folkks involved [03:33] Wow [03:33] it is an important consideration [03:33] We should take the pics, however we have them, and allow people to consume them on FB [03:33] You guys need more chicks there [03:33] NOT require ANYONE to go there [03:33] Is there a way to link pics from flickr/picasa to the facebook page? [03:33] That stat stands out [03:33] jdeslip, yes there is [03:33] Then we should do it I think [03:34] hmm.... [03:34] Sounds like the best use of the facebook page that I have heard so far :) [03:35] Any other comments or items of discussion? [03:35] MarkDude: is it easy and automatic to link pics from flickr/pacasa to the facebook page? [03:36] jdeslip, maybe you can write a disclaimer about FB being a walled garden [03:36] grantbow: he said yes above [03:36] doing it is one thing, easy and automatic are often another [03:36] One is easier than the other I believe [03:36] good enough, thanks [03:36] MarkDude: People know what facebook is... If they choose to use it anyway, so be it. No need to preach against facebook... on facebook. [03:37] * MarkDude will find the detail, just wanted to make sure the group was copacetic :D [03:37] thanks for mentioning this [03:37] jdeslip, that would be for our site - where we have a link [03:38] FOSS is great - when we dont do it, we should acknowledge it [03:38] That might be reasonable [03:38] Not that we are bad, just point out ogg is better than mp3 [03:38] one sentence or two, keeps us honest IMHO :) [03:39] OK, I think when put the link up you can be in on deciding the language [03:39] (as well as anyone else that cares) [03:40] OK, lets move to announcements [03:40] Why can't it be more than 1 language?? idk just saying. Maybe not a good thing idk [03:40] contributions of translations welcomed [03:41] BrightAmbition: you can translate english to california-speak, ok? [03:41] BrightAmbition: Language for what? [03:41] I guess i'm trying to be social but i don't think it's working so i'ma shut up [03:41] lol [03:42] Anyone have any announcements? [03:42] * BrightAmbition just nods and waves [03:42] We forgot to mention the date of scale9x before: it is Feb 25-27 [03:42] good to know [03:42] * BrightAmbition is lost & doesn't wanna bother asking what is being talked about [03:43] i will be going several days earlier and leaving several days later, driving down with BrightAmbition and possibly whomever else might tolerate that [03:43] tolerate what?? [03:43] ?? [03:43] 11.04 alpha2 is being released Feb 3. (and banshee should be default then) [03:44] BrightAmbition: being in L.A. several extra days [03:44] Oh ok [03:44] Sn9: did you even plan that yet like tickets & stuff?? [03:44] (and being around us for the drive down) [03:44] BrightAmbition: We are doing announcements before we close the formal part of the meeting I think. [03:44] oh ok [03:44] banshee is standern in 11.04 huh [03:44] Any more announcements? [03:45] Ok, this concludes the meeting. Thanks for coming everyone. Next meeting is two weeks from today - Jan 19th. [03:45] as for tickets, i think i'll wait until the group conference pack comes in before registering [03:45] Thanks everyone, thanks jdeslip. [03:45] sn9: ok === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-us-ca to: Welcome to the Ubuntu California Local Community (LoCo) Team! | Webpage: http://ubuntu-california.org (has links to mailing list, forum, and more!) | Next Meeting: Sunday, Jan 2nd, 7:00pm PST | This channel is publicly logged at irclogs.ubuntu.com | We have an unlogged channel at #ubuntu-us-ca-offtopic === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-us-ca to: Welcome to the Ubuntu California Local Community (LoCo) Team! | Webpage: http://ubuntu-california.org (has links to mailing list, forum, and more!) | Next Meeting: Sunday, Jan 16th, 7:00pm PST | This channel is publicly logged at irclogs.ubuntu.com | We have an unlogged channel at #ubuntu-us-ca-offtopic [03:46] hmm, my birthday [03:47] It will be a special sn9 birthday bash [03:47] can't beat last year [03:48] Really?? [03:48] We were in the rain [03:48] That's not a fun bday [03:48] lol [03:49] Hopefully your birthday this year will be better sn9 [03:49] uhm, this is Sacramento. same rain as here, pretty much [03:50] Well at least we have a place to go inside to [03:50] this time that is [03:50] instead of standing outside [03:50] let's just look forward to L.A. [03:50] I know i am [03:50] Haven't been to L.A since like 2001 or 2002 [03:51] wait no [03:51] I'm wrong [03:51] 2005 [03:52] But wasn't a good exeperience i think this time in L.A will be better though [03:52] yikes [03:52] uber typo [03:52] oh well i guess you get what i mean sn9 [03:53] So can we BBQ at Scale? [03:53] * MarkDude is going down there freelance again, my original plan was to rep for ZA :) [03:54] BBQ... yum [03:56] if aaditya goes, yum indeed [04:02] wb [04:04] wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11January30 edited | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/Current edited | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Menu edited | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings edited [04:20] wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11January02 edited [05:00] So is there anyone on this team that is mildly active on social media? [05:03] social media? like tv? [05:03] IRC is social media...so yes! [05:12] * MarkDude was thinking more like Facebook [05:13] I know you are there, but you have that Universe to do all robed [05:13] You know what I mean :) [05:14] seidos, Are you going to CLS? [05:14] yeah, i'm on facebook. we're friends. [05:14] MarkDude, what is CLS? [05:14] http://clswest2011.eventbrite.com/ [05:15] The coolest things ever [05:15] Last year we had ponies [05:15] first time i've heard of it [05:15] Well go [05:16] if i had someone to go with, i would consider it. but i really need to work on my programming. [05:16] There are cool people there, I met some great idealists there [05:16] Um, most of the people you saw at 7live will be there [05:17] -jono he is in Hungary or some silly place [05:17] Gidget Kitchen has like 6 folks going [05:19] i appreciate that, but them going isn't the same as going with me, know what i mean? [05:19] maybe if i can convince a friend to go or something [05:20] hmmm...dinner... [05:21] well, i'll have to think about it. i don't really need food...i gotta' read this article on Bodhisattva, Arahant, and "Buddhahood" [05:22] There will be a Tea ceremony at the dinner at the Bohemian loft [05:23] informal style, Mediterranean with casual music, possibly a dragon or two [05:24] A couple of the session are offering enlightenment, or your $ back [05:25] Its FREE :), go read now [05:27] hey, so is the article i'm reading! http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/authors/bodhi/arahantsbodhisattvas.html [05:28] i have to make a decision if i want to apply to stay at the Zen Center here or not... [05:28] i'll keep the link up, and read it later. [05:29] Cool [05:31] ah, won't finish tonight. [05:31] see ya' soon [07:53] * jussi grumbles at sn9 [12:54] Im not around in the middle of the night, the highlight was kinda pointless... ;) [12:54] * jussi goes back to work [12:56] [Sun 2011-01-02 11:53:44 PM PST] * jussi grumbles at sn9 [12:56] [Mon 2011-01-03 04:50:25 AM PST] jussi: ? [12:56] that was the point [12:58] * sn9 can grumble too [18:50] nhaines: are you going to scale? I need someone down in socal to send the canonical conference pack to [18:52] pleia2, if he is not. I have roughly half a million relatives down there that would be willing to help :D [18:52] MarkDude: I think we've got enough people near LA that we won't require that, but thanks :) [18:59] Ok :) [18:59] Did you have a preference on the two Ubuntu logos for the recruitment pic? [19:02] nope, I'm color-useless [19:06] ok [20:05] pleia2, grantbow >> Here is GK's proposed page regarding DBAN http://gidgetkitchen.org/wiki/index.php/DBAN [20:05] We need a simpler landing page, and then a page that has more details [20:06] The split of it will help not overwhelm folks, *and* allow them to get more info if they would like [20:06] might want to add a link to dban.org [20:07] and did you say something about this being used by some government agency or something? [20:08] oops the intro did not get copypasta properly [20:08] "Darik's Boot and Nuke" is an unfortunately hackerish name, could be offset by $government_agency_that_gives_it_legitimacy uses this [20:10] Good idea [20:10] I re-added the link === stburto_ is now known as stburto [22:03] How many of these should I bring to SCALE? http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003ZDNZSI/ [22:10] we've still got about 100 official pressed cds which I'll be bringing down [22:13] Yay. co CD hassles :) [22:15] I don't have a machine which can burn on site, so we'll have to figure out what hardware is coming down too to make sure we can burn cds :) [22:15] * MarkDude can offer his Strata machine [22:15] It can evewn do dual layer DVD [22:15] cool [22:16] It can be used for at least half of the time [22:16] can it stay at the table, or will you be running around with it? [22:17] * MarkDude will just need it for a session or two [22:17] Cali can have it the rest of the time [22:17] I may not need it for even those sessions [22:17] * MarkDude just requests that we note it as part of the GK mobile FOSS computer lab [22:18] * MarkDude is always in PR mode, I apologize :D [22:18] I can let the group have a 2nd machine from the lab, so there will be a solid backup option [22:19] The Strata has a 512 graphics card, it can make some great eye candy [22:21] The 2nd machine will most likely be a Dell Inspiron640m - it has a regular DVD burner [22:21] I also have a 3rd string HP ugly machine- that can do DVDs, but is covered in stickers [22:22] Count on at least 2 machines from GK [22:23] * MarkDude may be hired by then, so I can't speak to where I will be busy at Scale yet [22:24]