/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/01/03/#ubuntu-us-pa.txt

MutantTurkeynetsplits :/00:42
rmg51got to love those netsplits :-D00:49
MutantTurkey:p00:56
ChinnoDoganyone know how I might be able to start a remote X session and launch only gnome-panel without the desktop? I am connecting using NX from Windows.02:47
ChinnoDogooh. If I run /usr/bin/gnome-panel it will launch but then some of the applets crash02:49
jthanChinnoDog: I feel like jedijf would be best to answer that.03:11
jthanWhy do you want to launch gnome-panel remotely?03:11
jthanI only said about jedijf because everytime I had a remote session question, or talked about x forwarding, he knew the answer.03:12
ChinnoDogThe visual styling isn't working either. I also tried running /usr/bin/xinit but I get the same thing. No visual styling is applied to gnome-panel though.03:12
ChinnoDogIf I run /etc/X11/Xsession I get gnome-panel with visual styling but also get the desktop and a bazillion little title bars without any windows attached to them.03:18
ChinnoDogI can't figure it out03:51
* ChinnoDog headdesk03:51
ChinnoDogWhat provides the visual styling? The window manager? I don't know how that gets launched.03:53
jthanChinnoDog: umm..04:04
jthanmetacity-replace :-P04:04
* jthan doesn't think you can run that one remotely04:04
ChinnoDogI think gnome-session might be the key04:48
ChinnoDogit IS gnome-session05:10
ChinnoDogif I pstree I can see it05:10
jedijfjthan: you don't have to qualify recommending me......or do you? :P14:57
andrewDo we really need Boxbe invites via the list?15:00
jedijfseriously15:01
jedijfcentral pa folk iirc15:01
andrewhonestly, once is one thing, but twice?15:02
mikedep333anybody have a recommendation for a screen recorder for windows? I'm preparing tutorial videos for the museum I volunteer for. Right now I'm using camstudio, but it's rough around the edges. At least it can create flash animations (which save tons of space compared to video files.)15:16
mikedep333also, windows 7 has psr.exe15:17
mikedep333which is nice15:17
mikedep333http://camstudio.org/15:17
JonathanDI typically have used camstudio :)15:17
mikedep333http://www.istartedsomething.com/20090111/windows-7-problem-steps-recorder-miracle-tool/15:17
mikedep333JonathanD, yeah15:18
mikedep333I'm using the oct2010 beta version15:18
JonathanDand then go back and reduce the file using other tools15:18
mikedep333by default, it does 300FPS for the videos15:18
mikedep333which made them huge15:18
mikedep333I set it down to 1515:18
mikedep333it has an flash animation convertor15:18
JonathanDI prefer the huge files, lets me tinker without re-recording15:18
mikedep333yeah15:18
mikedep333so amazon.com makes you use their MP3 downloader to download the MP3's you purchase from them (at least for albums, maybe not for individual songs)15:19
mikedep333at least they have a linux version15:19
mikedep333I presume that there isn't any DRM on the MP3's once downloaded (I think DRM isn't even possible with MP3's)15:20
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mikedep333JonathanD, do you have a recommmendation for an IRC client for windows?15:21
mikedep333right now I'm using an xchat build called ychat15:21
JonathanDirssi running somewhere else ;)15:21
mikedep333it seems to work best out of those I've tried15:21
mikedep333lol15:21
mikedep333I generally prefer to avoid CLI apps for things like IRC15:21
JonathanDI have too many windows for a gui client.15:21
mikedep333yeah15:22
JonathanDone of these days I'll try to make one myself that works a bit differently.15:22
JonathanDxchat is probably the most usable gui client.15:22
JonathanDalthough MS comic chat is clearly a close second.15:23
mikedep333http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ&feature=player_embedded15:24
mikedep333wow15:24
mikedep333irssi.org has that on its frontpage15:24
mikedep333this is going to my youtube list15:25
mikedep333http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=21BA3922659341DA15:25
mikedep333"Silly Portrayals of Hacking"15:25
JonathanDhah15:28
JonathanDI'm on a boat!15:28
mikedep333gonna update the software on my Dad's GPS15:30
mikedep333from windows of course, It's a Garmin15:30
mikedep333it's probably worth no more than $50 now, but to update the maps (not just the software) costs like $10015:30
andrewjthan: So, what did you get at The Clymb?16:47
andrewIf anyone else is interested in The Clymb, have an invite: http://www.theclymb.com/invite-from/AndrewKeyes16:48
SamuraiAlbaGood bacon to all!17:19
rhpot1991mikedep333: you can normally get lifetime update cards for cheaper on amazon18:48
rhpot1991I got one for 50 or so18:48
ChinnoDoghello BeckySanderlin`x19:34
ChinnoDogAnyone here use DigiKam to organize their photos?22:16
SamuraiAlbaGood bacon to all!22:32
ChinnoDog...22:33
SamuraiAlbaWassup, ChinnoDog?22:34
ChinnoDogTrying to figure out if there is a safe way to add a ppa with latest version of DigiKam but not allow installation of any of the other packages in the PPA22:35
SamuraiAlbaNot sure.22:35
andrewjust down the deb from the ppa?22:35
SamuraiAlbaI havent received updates for ubuntu in 2 weeks.  Were there any?22:35
andrewphilly parking authority?22:36
ChinnoDogandrew: but a) what about dependencies and b) then I won't get updates22:36
andrewChinnoDog: true22:36
ChinnoDogI want to block all packages except the one I want22:36
andrewdependencies should be easy, but updates will be a pain22:36
andrewdunno, haven't had that problem yet22:36
andrewi'd google, but I need to head home22:36
SamuraiAlbaI want the n900 *sniffle*22:36
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andrewChinnoDog: #3 makes me think you aren't alone in that desire: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/19915/22:37
ChinnoDogSo, that probably means I can't do it...22:39
ChinnoDog:-(22:39
ChinnoDogNewest in Maverick repos is 1.4, latest is 1.722:43
ChinnoDogApparently it appears in PPAs on a regular basis. It makes me wonder why official repos don't get updated.22:44
ChinnoDogI added repo, installed select packages, and then removed it23:04
pleia2official repos only get security and major bug fixes after release, not new versions of the package23:10
pleia2that's why PPAs exist :)23:10
ChinnoDogThe official repo is 3 versions behind though23:11
ChinnoDogOh. You mean that 10.10 will never have > 1.4 because that is what was available at release time23:11
pleia21.3 was current whem maverick froze23:12
pleia2yes23:12
pleia2but freeze time is long before release23:12
pleia2so it's what was current in august23:12
pleia21.4 didn't come out until august 28th, after freeze23:12
pleia2er, 25th23:13
pleia2freeze was early august23:13
ChinnoDogSo if you want newer packages the best thing is to have an official ppa?23:13
ChinnoDogmeaning official for the package, not Ubuntu official23:13
pleia2depends on the package, if you trust upstream to write good packages, sure23:14
pleia2it's not always a safe assumption though :)23:14
ChinnoDogk. got it.23:15
jedijfsee why ya need a farm23:17
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