[00:42] netsplits :/ [00:49] got to love those netsplits :-D [00:56] :p [02:47] anyone know how I might be able to start a remote X session and launch only gnome-panel without the desktop? I am connecting using NX from Windows. [02:49] ooh. If I run /usr/bin/gnome-panel it will launch but then some of the applets crash [03:11] ChinnoDog: I feel like jedijf would be best to answer that. [03:11] Why do you want to launch gnome-panel remotely? [03:12] I only said about jedijf because everytime I had a remote session question, or talked about x forwarding, he knew the answer. [03:12] The visual styling isn't working either. I also tried running /usr/bin/xinit but I get the same thing. No visual styling is applied to gnome-panel though. [03:18] If I run /etc/X11/Xsession I get gnome-panel with visual styling but also get the desktop and a bazillion little title bars without any windows attached to them. [03:51] I can't figure it out [03:51] * ChinnoDog headdesk [03:53] What provides the visual styling? The window manager? I don't know how that gets launched. [04:04] ChinnoDog: umm.. [04:04] metacity-replace :-P [04:04] * jthan doesn't think you can run that one remotely [04:48] I think gnome-session might be the key [05:10] it IS gnome-session [05:10] if I pstree I can see it [14:57] jthan: you don't have to qualify recommending me......or do you? :P [15:00] Do we really need Boxbe invites via the list? [15:01] seriously [15:01] central pa folk iirc [15:02] honestly, once is one thing, but twice? [15:16] anybody have a recommendation for a screen recorder for windows? I'm preparing tutorial videos for the museum I volunteer for. Right now I'm using camstudio, but it's rough around the edges. At least it can create flash animations (which save tons of space compared to video files.) [15:17] also, windows 7 has psr.exe [15:17] which is nice [15:17] http://camstudio.org/ [15:17] I typically have used camstudio :) [15:17] http://www.istartedsomething.com/20090111/windows-7-problem-steps-recorder-miracle-tool/ [15:18] JonathanD, yeah [15:18] I'm using the oct2010 beta version [15:18] and then go back and reduce the file using other tools [15:18] by default, it does 300FPS for the videos [15:18] which made them huge [15:18] I set it down to 15 [15:18] it has an flash animation convertor [15:18] I prefer the huge files, lets me tinker without re-recording [15:18] yeah [15:19] so amazon.com makes you use their MP3 downloader to download the MP3's you purchase from them (at least for albums, maybe not for individual songs) [15:19] at least they have a linux version [15:20] I presume that there isn't any DRM on the MP3's once downloaded (I think DRM isn't even possible with MP3's) === jackson_ is now known as jackson [15:21] JonathanD, do you have a recommmendation for an IRC client for windows? [15:21] right now I'm using an xchat build called ychat [15:21] irssi running somewhere else ;) [15:21] it seems to work best out of those I've tried [15:21] lol [15:21] I generally prefer to avoid CLI apps for things like IRC [15:21] I have too many windows for a gui client. [15:22] yeah [15:22] one of these days I'll try to make one myself that works a bit differently. [15:22] xchat is probably the most usable gui client. [15:23] although MS comic chat is clearly a close second. [15:24] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ&feature=player_embedded [15:24] wow [15:24] irssi.org has that on its frontpage [15:25] this is going to my youtube list [15:25] http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=21BA3922659341DA [15:25] "Silly Portrayals of Hacking" [15:28] hah [15:28] I'm on a boat! [15:30] gonna update the software on my Dad's GPS [15:30] from windows of course, It's a Garmin [15:30] it's probably worth no more than $50 now, but to update the maps (not just the software) costs like $100 [16:47] jthan: So, what did you get at The Clymb? [16:48] If anyone else is interested in The Clymb, have an invite: http://www.theclymb.com/invite-from/AndrewKeyes [17:19] Good bacon to all! [18:48] mikedep333: you can normally get lifetime update cards for cheaper on amazon [18:48] I got one for 50 or so [19:34] hello BeckySanderlin`x [22:16] Anyone here use DigiKam to organize their photos? [22:32] Good bacon to all! [22:33] ... [22:34] Wassup, ChinnoDog? [22:35] Trying to figure out if there is a safe way to add a ppa with latest version of DigiKam but not allow installation of any of the other packages in the PPA [22:35] Not sure. [22:35] just down the deb from the ppa? [22:35] I havent received updates for ubuntu in 2 weeks. Were there any? [22:36] philly parking authority? [22:36] andrew: but a) what about dependencies and b) then I won't get updates [22:36] ChinnoDog: true [22:36] I want to block all packages except the one I want [22:36] dependencies should be easy, but updates will be a pain [22:36] dunno, haven't had that problem yet [22:36] i'd google, but I need to head home [22:36] I want the n900 *sniffle* === Joe_CoT` is now known as Joe_CoT [22:37] ChinnoDog: #3 makes me think you aren't alone in that desire: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/19915/ [22:39] So, that probably means I can't do it... [22:39] :-( [22:43] Newest in Maverick repos is 1.4, latest is 1.7 [22:44] Apparently it appears in PPAs on a regular basis. It makes me wonder why official repos don't get updated. [23:04] I added repo, installed select packages, and then removed it [23:10] official repos only get security and major bug fixes after release, not new versions of the package [23:10] that's why PPAs exist :) [23:11] The official repo is 3 versions behind though [23:11] Oh. You mean that 10.10 will never have > 1.4 because that is what was available at release time [23:12] 1.3 was current whem maverick froze [23:12] yes [23:12] but freeze time is long before release [23:12] so it's what was current in august [23:12] 1.4 didn't come out until august 28th, after freeze [23:13] er, 25th [23:13] freeze was early august [23:13] So if you want newer packages the best thing is to have an official ppa? [23:13] meaning official for the package, not Ubuntu official [23:14] depends on the package, if you trust upstream to write good packages, sure [23:14] it's not always a safe assumption though :) [23:15] k. got it. [23:17] see why ya need a farm === DJAshnar is now known as SamuraiAlba