[00:13] <Roey> holstein:  nono like last week
[00:15] <Roey> holstein: when I do xmodmap, this is the table I see:  http://pastebin.com/aTpAGEXS
[00:16] <Roey> holstein:  now for instance, Capslock should be mapped to Control, at least that's how it appears in my Keyboard Settings dialog
[00:16] <Roey> holstein:  yet xmodmap shows that Capslock is mapped to 'Lock'
[00:25] <Roey> holstein:  but basically, (1) is this problem specific to my user account or does it transcend other accounts on my computer? (2) is this problem specific to my distribution?  (3) is this problem specific to KDE 4.6b1/b2/rc1?
[00:25] <Roey> holstein:  that's the logic I follow
[01:18] <Volkodav> Anybody installed sopcast player from ppa ? I had no luck
[01:34] <lolcat^> I am upgrading! :D
[01:35] <lolcat^> Anyone here?
[01:37] <Roey> no
[01:37] <Roey> heh
[01:38] <Roey> upgrad9ng to what, cat?
[01:48] <lolcat^> Roey: 11.04
[01:48] <Roey> ah
[01:48] <Roey> to 11.04? ok
[01:48] <Roey> brave one :)
[01:49] <lolcat^> Yes, untiy was getting on my nerves
[01:49] <lolcat^> And I need something new
[01:49] <lolcat^> Migth have to go to the military :S
[01:49] <Roey> awww
[01:49] <Roey> you mean as an alternative to using Unity?!?!
[01:49] <Roey> or in general?
[01:49] <Roey> and which Service, in that case?
[01:57] <lolcat^> I just need something new and flashy to cheer me up
[01:57] <lolcat^> It is usually a weeks worth of entertainment in each upgrade
[02:18] <lolcat^> Roey: ZOMG! I am updating, now unity dissapeared!
[02:22] <lolcat^> Jordan_U: Help me here?
[02:23] <Jordan_U> lolcat^: I know hardly anything about unity or I would.
[02:24] <lolcat^> But I have no task bar
[02:24] <lolcat^> This interface has no ctrl + F2
[02:24] <lolcat^> So I am stuck with a terminal a chrome and a vlc window
[02:26] <Jordan_U> lolcat^: At the login screen, after you've selected your username, there should be an option to start a failsafe gnome session (menu at the bottom of the screen).
[02:28] <lolcat^> Jordan_U: Wouldnt stopping x in the middle of a upgrade be unfortunate?
[02:33] <Jordan_U> lolcat^: Yes.
[02:34]  * h00k waves
[02:36] <YankeesFan> can i install natty into my /home parittion?
[02:44] <Jordan_U> YankeesFan: You'll have to explain better what exactly you're trying to accomplish.
[02:44] <YankeesFan> install natty into where my /home partition is but not into where the root partition
[02:44] <YankeesFan> it would go like / /dev/sda1 /home=/sda2
[02:45] <YankeesFan> ubuntu 10.10 / = / dev/sda1 and /home /dev/sda2  but natty would just be /dev/sda2
[02:46] <YankeesFan> or instead of just resizing put ubuntu 11.04 into the partition where my /home folder resides
[02:50] <Jordan_U> YankeesFan: While it would probably work, I strongly advise against using the same partition as a separate /home for one install and full '/' for another.
[02:54] <YankeesFan> you mean not use a /home paritition?
[03:00] <Jordan_U> YankeesFan: Could you please rephrase your question?
[03:00] <YankeesFan> u mean i should keep everything in one partition and not use a seperate /home partition?
[03:01] <Jordan_U> YankeesFan: I do think that, but that was not what I was trying to say with my earlier comment.
[03:01] <YankeesFan> oh i see
[04:20] <ripps> does compiz 9 have widget layer yet?
[04:20] <h00k> ripps: hello
[04:21] <ripps> h00k: yo
[04:21] <Guest19465> Can i upgrade to 11.04 from 10.10 thats installed through windows?
[04:21] <IdleOne> Guest19465: I don't believe you can but that is beside the point. 11.04 is still alpha and not stable
[04:22] <Guest19465> I Know but i just wanted to mess around with it.
[04:22] <IdleOne> get the daily build and run it in a VM
[04:23] <Guest19465> Ok thank you.
[05:12] <lolcat^> Is there a risk I will loose my cryptodisk?
[06:24] <ripps> hmm... it appears that compiz-fusion-plugins-extra is updated in the natty repos and it has widgetlayer. I might feel a little uncomfortable with where unity currently is in development, but I can always revert to the Classic Desktop option, right?
[06:25] <ripps> I'm gonna put an updated put an updated natty image on my thumbdrive and see how stable everything is.
[06:28] <rww> ripps: yes, there's an option to use "classic" Ubuntu instead of Unity in GDM.
[06:31] <ripps> I might upgrade to natty soon. I usually upgrade to alpha sooner, but with the compiz/unity transistion, alot of my stuff I use on a daily basis and the setup I'm comfortable with would have been broken.
[06:31] <rww> yeah, it's an interesting ride this cycle, for sure
[06:32] <ripps> Does anybody know if Unity will support theming? I can't stand the traditional color scheme of Ubuntu, I prefer dark/blue color scheme.
[06:33] <rww> When I changed my GNOME theme to a light one a few weeks ago, it ended up half light and half dark. I don't know if it's improved since then.
[06:40] <ripps> Well from what I understand, theming only affects only the windows, not the actual panel/dock of unity.
[11:25] <OchoZero9> what do i have to do to get kubuntu?
[11:26] <OchoZero9> My main concern is running kde apps, specifically kile
[11:26] <rww> install 'kubuntu-desktop' package, but you can run apps from one DE in another DE, generally...
[11:27] <OchoZero9> i actually installed that on my virtual box..
[11:27] <rww> (or use http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ if you're looking for a CD)
[11:28] <OchoZero9> that's what im downloading now, the question arises because it has the same file name as the one i downloaded before
[11:28] <rww> yes, daily builds don't include the distribution in the filename
[11:28] <OchoZero9> nice
[11:29] <OchoZero9> so it will natively install kde then, this new cd i'm downloading
[11:29] <OchoZero9> ?
[11:29] <rww> yes
[11:29] <OchoZero9> cool
[13:09] <slipttees> Ubuntu 11.04 goin Gnoem 3 ?
[13:11] <slipttees> Ubuntu 10.04 goin' Gnome 3?
[13:13] <rumpel__> slipttees, aptitude mentiones gnome3-session manager...
[13:13] <slipttees> hum
[13:15] <slipttees> thx rumpel__
[13:16] <slipttees> rumpel__: libreoffice too?
[13:16] <rumpel__> nope
[13:18] <slipttees> =[
[13:20] <rumpel__> i use it for about two weeks and it looks very stable... if you think about testing it...
[15:26] <mib_ahdy7r> Is Natty 11.04 having reported  problems with boot freeze?
[15:40] <Punkoff> Are Unity Places working already?
[15:41] <Punkoff> I've installed unity-place-* packages but places don't show up
[16:08] <coz_> hey all
[16:16] <BluesKaj> howdy folks
[16:26] <mib_ahdy7r> which channel is 11.04 NATTY
[16:27] <rumpe1> mib_ahdy7r, #ubuntu+1
[16:27] <Daekdroom> Which is.. this one!
[16:28] <rumpe1> surprise! \o/
[16:32] <mib_ahdy7r> Thank you. Have  freeze on boots been reported for 11.04 ?
[16:36] <charlie-tca> mib_ahdy7r: there is bug 694772, affecting alternate and server ISOs
[16:39] <mib_ahdy7r> have checked and could not find that. Thanks.
[16:40] <mib_ahdy7r> At start up I have a 50/50 chance to hit grub OS listing.
[16:42] <rumpe1> mib_ahdy7r, when does it exactly freeze?
[16:42] <Kre10s> hello. Im using ubuntu 11.4, How can I change the login screen?
[16:43] <rumpe1> Kre10s, System->Administration->login screen
[16:43] <Kre10s> and what then?
[16:44] <Kre10s> the local tab? that seems to be the method for ubuntu 10.4. 11.4 has no such option...
[16:44] <rumpe1> hm
[16:44] <Kre10s> A shame really, I know how to change the login screen in 10.4...
[16:45] <rumpe1> Kre10s, what do you want to change?
[16:45] <Kre10s> If you can tell me where the files are kept... I can change it manually
[16:45] <rumpe1> well..  locate gdm | grep png   gives some grafiks you could modify.. .i guess...
[16:45] <Kre10s> I would like to change the theme to the one used by 10.4
[16:46] <Kre10s> when I shut down there is also a purple screen... If I could just make it black...
[16:46] <Kre10s> brb
[16:48] <rumpe1> well .. one idea would be a system-wide scan for graphics, pick the relevant ones, change em and hope, it works ...  /if/ the purple screen you mean is stored as a graphics-file
[16:49] <anon33_> is there a way to remove a package without installing the new, extra packages? ie - i'd like to remove firefox
[16:50] <rumpe1> anon33_, which extra packages for example?
[16:50] <anon33_> epiphany-browser, yelp, gnome-js-common, etc...
[16:50] <anon33_> dunno why
[16:51] <rumpe1> hmm... if i try to remove firefox, abrowser and abrowser-branding will be installed
[16:52] <anon33_> rumpe1: I'm not on Natty and I've probably botched the default firefox install
[16:52] <rumpe1> perhaps they are in fact only reconfigured (to point to another browser?)
[16:53] <IdleOne> anon33_: why are you asking in here if you are not running natty?
[16:53] <anon33_> IdleOne: I default to natty packages most of the time, which I'll do in this case once I can get Firefox removed properly
[16:54] <IdleOne> so you are mixing repos, ugly
[16:55] <anon33_> IdleOne: I'm trying not to (most of the time)
[16:58] <nperry> anon33_: To be honest, don't mix. You either use natty or stay on maverick.. Asking for trouble mixing, all alot of packages depend of certain versions.
[17:06] <anon33_> nperry: got it. now do you know if there's a way to remove a package without having to install new ones?
[17:06] <anon33_> purge doesn't seem to do the trick
[17:39] <mib_ahdy7r> at start up either go's to login and work fine and or to OS version grub list and freezes. 50/50
[17:43] <mib_ahdy7r> any ideas? I have checked bugs in regard to this but none have anything in common.
[17:45] <om26er> mib_ahdy7r, i faced this issue on the alpha-1 but after updates applied the issue is fixed, is your system upto-date?
[17:47] <mib_ahdy7r> running current updates  as we speak
[17:49] <om26er> definitely something to do with the grub framebuffer in natty (tm)
[17:50] <Daekdroom> Anyone else with plymouth running on low res only?
[17:54] <mib_ahdy7r> all set and booting great
[18:12] <Kre10s> Is there no standard way of changing the ubuntu 11.4 login screen?
[18:23] <BluesKaj> Kre10s, I'm on kde , in system settings /login screen , dunno what the gnome equivalent is.
[18:24] <Kre10s> BluesKaj: thats how older versions of ubuntu handled it... but the latest version has been castrated in this regard
[18:25] <BluesKaj> Kre10s, readying for gnome3 ?
[18:25] <Kre10s> me?
[18:26] <BluesKaj> no the desktop
[18:26] <Kre10s> I have gnome 2.32
[18:26] <Kre10s> I wouldn't know why the function disapeared
[18:27] <Kre10s> If i only knew where the config files are kept... I could change it manually
[18:27] <BluesKaj> Kre10s, when it launches officially , I guess is what I mean
[18:30] <Kre10s> another thing... How can I get the location entry field in nautilus?
[18:30] <Kre10s> there used to be an icon to cghange between the buttons and text.
[18:32] <yofel_> click on the text line maybe, and there's a keyboard shortcut.
[18:32] <yofel> I can't remember which one though :S
[18:33] <Kre10s> ctrl+l i think. but ian't there a way to have it apear permanentally?
[18:33] <yofel> no idea, I'm on KDE too
[18:35] <BluesKaj> ok bbl
[18:36] <Kre10s> what about right click? I have a .theme file. I right click it, and don't get an open with other app menu.\
[18:53] <chris_____> hi there
[18:54] <chris_____> i got frequent ATA erros with 11.04 (and 10.08) with my sata drives
[18:54] <chris_____> i searched google and found out that many have the same problem
[20:08] <BluesKaj> hmm, FF4B8 doesn't seems to be integrating thne toolbar fonts well with kde font settings , wonder if there's away to adjust them ...I need larger fonts for this monitor
[21:06] <genii-around> Incidentally, I like the currently plain black background for kdm.