[00:07] <wilkanaut> talkative bunch you are here
[00:12] <stlsaint> yep yep
[00:12] <stlsaint> wilkanaut: considering this is the support channel, there probably wont be much talking unless help is needed
[00:18] <wilkanaut> oh im sorry
[00:19] <wilkanaut> is there a more discussive channel?
[00:19] <stlsaint> wilkanaut: its not all that more talkative all the time neither, just try striking up a convo
[00:19] <wilkanaut> oh haha
[00:19] <stlsaint> wilkanaut: #ubuntu-beginners-team
[00:20] <wilkanaut> Well, holstein gave me the idea to make a media server
[00:20] <stlsaint> great idea
[00:20] <wilkanaut> a craptop at home to stream content to and from
[00:20] <wilkanaut> I've also heard of torrenting that can begin from a smartphone
[00:20] <wilkanaut> is this something that could be linked?
[00:21] <stlsaint> wilkanaut: i just setup server, install rtorrent (or whiche you prefer) connect to it from smart phone via ssh and download movies
[00:26] <Cheri703> transmission has a web interface
[00:27] <stlsaint> Cheri703: nice, i never knew that
[00:28] <Cheri703> I use a random port and forward it via my router, then use my no-ip account to connect from anywhere, phone or otherwise
[00:28] <wilkanaut> xmission is unix/macosx based yeah?
[00:28] <Cheri703> transmission?
[00:29] <Cheri703> I believe so
[00:31] <stlsaint> wilkanaut: lol, did you just make that up?? o_O (xmission??)
[00:31] <wilkanaut> i usually shorten trans to x
[00:31] <wilkanaut> xcross
[00:31] <wilkanaut> xmit
[00:31] <stlsaint> thats a rather odd abbreviation...
[00:33] <Cheri703> wilkanaut: when referring to software and you have a general group, best to use the proper term
[00:33] <wilkanaut> roger that
[00:33] <Cheri703> there are so many random/similarly named programs, there MIGHT actually be a program named xmission, and that could get really confusing for people who aren't familiar with transmission or whatnot
[00:33] <wilkanaut> oh okay, thanks for the advice
[00:36] <wilkanaut> btw, if it doesn't exist, total dibs on xmission
[00:44] <wilkanaut> is ssh for the smartphone a jailbreak kind of thing or just a free/paid app?
[01:00] <wilkanaut> nick
[01:18] <wilkanaut> do any of you folks have a good resource for me to learn how to make a server on my craptop?
[01:22] <mysteriousdarren> what are you looking to use? ubuntu? linux?
[01:38] <red-raven> nit-wit: you here?
[01:38] <nit-wit> red-raven, yep.
[01:39] <red-raven> hey to be on the safe side, whats the best anti-virus for linux?
[01:40] <nit-wit> red-raven, linuv av is a bit different it just finds stuff that looks suspicious you have to ascertain whether it is a false positive or not I use the avst one though for fun.
[01:40] <nit-wit> *avast
[01:41] <red-raven> nit-wit: ok which repository is it in? or do i just find it online?
[01:41] <nit-wit> red-raven, http://www.avast.com/linux-home-edition  you have to modify a file to get it to always open correctl esy stuff though I think I have an extra key for avast as well
[01:42] <red-raven> ok thx. which file is it?
[01:42] <red-raven> BRB. sorry.
[01:46] <nit-wit> red-raven, the deb use the gdebi installer by just clicking on it, let me h=give you my extra key for when you open it though.http://www.avast.com/ja-jp/linux-home-edition#tab4
[01:46] <wilkanaut> mysteriousdarren: I want to use ubuntu as the server
[01:48] <mysteriousdarren> oh I will look around for a little bit.
[01:48] <wilkanaut> thank you very much
[01:48] <wilkanaut> I'm looking at filezilla as a start
[01:49] <shawn146> hey guys
[01:49] <shawn146> i am back
[01:49] <wilkanaut> the goal is home sharing, remote downloading and access
[01:49] <shawn146> this time with good enws :D
[01:49] <shawn146> *news
[01:49] <wilkanaut> ooh
[01:49] <shawn146> holstein ?
[01:50] <wilkanaut> he may have disappeared a bit ago
[01:50] <shawn146> oh
[01:50] <shawn146> iw as able to tab-complete his nick
[01:50] <shawn146> * i was
[01:50] <wilkanaut> im learning, so maybe not
[01:50] <shawn146> lol
[01:50] <shawn146> i got my dads old printer working :D
[01:51] <wilkanaut> shawn146: 1, Old Dad Printer, 0
[01:51] <shawn146> so i can use teh card reader in it for reading the 512 MB Compact flash card
[01:51] <shawn146> ?>
[01:51] <shawn146> huh?
[01:51] <wilkanaut> nuthin
[01:51] <shawn146> o.O
[01:52] <wilkanaut> you won a point, thus yo have 1 pt and the printer has 0
[01:52] <shawn146> i accidentally tripped the usb cord out of the usb port in the printer, so i spent time getting into it, modifying the connector, soldering, and reasembling, and it works :D
[01:53] <shawn146> he gave it to me, he was about to throw it out,a nd i also needed a erader
[01:53] <shawn146> 8a reader
[01:55] <shawn146> wow
[01:55] <shawn146> vmware player works too :D
[01:55] <mysteriousdarren> wilkanaut: Here is a guide http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-10.10-maverick-meerkat-ispconfig-3
[01:57] <shawn146> hmm, whats the GParted Partition editor package name for apt-get?
[01:59] <wilkanaut> thanks mysteriousdarren
[01:59] <mysteriousdarren> yup that is one of the best that I have found.
[02:00] <shawn146> ?
[02:01] <mysteriousdarren> what
[02:01] <mysteriousdarren> ?
[02:02] <wilkanaut> I will start that up as soon as I finish downloading
[02:02] <mysteriousdarren> It works really well.
[02:15] <shawn146> who here likes sushi?
[02:16] <mysteriousdarren> me!
[02:16] <wilkanaut> lol
[02:16] <shawn146> awsome :D
[02:16] <shawn146> i lveo sushi too lol
[02:17] <shawn146> myd ad bought 2 trays and gave them to me lol
[02:17] <wilkanaut> take an eggroll, wrap it with rice and sushi paper, the fry that
[02:17] <shawn146> from Karoke Bowl
[02:17] <wilkanaut> add raspberry sauce and num
[02:17] <shawn146> a good restaraunt
[02:17] <shawn146> lol
[02:17] <shawn146> who woudl like to watch me eat a ball of wasabi sauce?
[02:19] <shawn146> mysteriousdarren /
[02:19] <shawn146> ?
[02:19] <shawn146> oops
[02:21] <mysteriousdarren> what?
[02:21] <shawn146> do you?
[02:21] <mysteriousdarren> no way thats mean, i want some
[02:22] <shawn146> whats mean?
[02:22] <shawn146> i am the one subject to loss
[02:22] <shawn146> i am teh victim
[02:23] <shawn146> wish i could send you the other ball lol
[02:23] <shawn146> it would go bad :(
[02:28] <wilkanaut> haha
[02:28] <wilkanaut> POst Office: What is that smell
[02:28] <wilkanaut> That my friend, is the smell of burning
[02:49] <ShootEmUp> Hello Everyone
[03:00] <shawn146> wilkanaut does wasabi actualy burn stuff?
[03:06] <wilkanaut> it burns my face
[03:09] <holstein> shawn146: o/
[03:10] <holstein> i went to dinner and got a call to fill in last minute on a gig )
[03:11] <wilkanaut> Nice!
[03:11] <wilkanaut> ought to get us some soothing sounds that come from you
[03:13] <johnny77> Ok, so I've installed Ubuntu, tried out a couple derivatives, and getting comfortable with gnome. 99% what I've done in windows I am now doing in Ubuntu. What's next for a beginner?
[03:14] <holstein> johnny77: have you installed something?
[03:14] <holstein> might want to look in synaptic or the software center
[03:14] <holstein> and try something out
[03:14] <johnny77> yes, i've installed a few apps..
[03:15] <johnny77> holstein: I guess that's part of my question... Suggestions on what I should learn or install.
[03:15] <holstein> hmmm
[03:15] <holstein> what are you into?
[03:15] <holstein> i usually suggest trying to get into the command line
[03:16] <holstein> just simple things like making directories
[03:16] <holstein> and moving files around
[03:16] <holstein> copying
[03:18] <ShootEmUp> het, red-raven!
[03:19] <Cheri703> I haven't dual-booted in a while, better to install xp first or ubuntu?
[03:20] <holstein> XP if you can
[03:20] <Cheri703> ok
[03:20] <Cheri703> that's what I thought
[03:20] <holstein> its do-able the other way
[03:20] <holstein> you just have to install grub
[03:20] <Cheri703> ubuntu will be primary, but since I have oem xp pro for it, I might as well put it on :)
[03:20] <holstein> which can be a pain
[03:20] <holstein> the other way, its really easy
[03:20] <holstein> XP first*
[03:21] <Cheri703> another question: is it at all possible to remotely connect to the computer at or before the grub process? i.e. I contact it and tell it which OS without being physically present at the box?
[03:21]  * Cheri703 is probably ahead of herself with that one
[03:21] <holstein> hmmm
[03:22] <holstein> good question
[03:22] <holstein> like a headless dual-boot
[03:22] <Cheri703> it'd be super handy
[03:22] <Cheri703> yeah
[03:22] <Cheri703> or even just be able to remote into either OS and say "reboot into other OS" somehow
[03:23] <aveilleux> Cheri703: You can reorder the GRUB menu from Linux, I don't know how you'd do it from Windows though.
[03:23] <holstein> Cheri703: check out http://stephenjungels.com/jungels.net/articles/headless-dual-boot.html
[03:23] <Cheri703> yeah, I thought of that option right after I said it :)
[03:23] <Cheri703> ooo, thanks holstein
[03:23] <holstein> IF that works, it should be similar for buntu
[03:24] <holstein> maybe look around for PXE boot info too
[03:24] <holstein> Cheri703: thats a great question ;)
[03:24] <holstein> i cant believe that hasnt come up before
[03:24] <holstein> thats the kind of thing i want to try just because
[03:25] <Cheri703> so I'm trying to figure out what it's saying, I am seeing it say to make the boot floppy to boot windows, but not seeing how that gives me headless CHOICE between the two
[03:26] <holstein> yeah... im not sure
[03:26] <Cheri703> I've not done anything with pxe booting
[03:26] <holstein> i was assuming you VNC into grub?
[03:27] <Cheri703> I ...could?
[03:27] <Cheri703> I've not done that
[03:28] <Cheri703> didn't know you could vnc pre-OS loading
[03:28] <aveilleux> You can't VNC into GRUB
[03:28] <Cheri703> http://superuser.com/questions/184978/dual-boot-a-headless-machine maybe?
[03:28] <aveilleux> GRUB doesn't run X
[03:28] <holstein> Cheri703: OH
[03:28] <holstein> Insert floppy = Windows; remove floppy = Debian.
[03:28] <holstein> thats probaly not going to do it
[03:28] <holstein> its OK
[03:28] <Cheri703> :/
[03:28] <holstein> but, it would be slick to do it completely remotely
[03:29] <holstein> hmmm
[03:29] <Cheri703> the "answer" with the checkmark on that link looks promising
[03:29] <Cheri703> in the "for grub2" part
[03:30] <holstein> Cheri703: is it enough of a box that you could virtualize windows?
[03:30] <holstein> just have both running
[03:30] <Cheri703> nope. has like 300something MB RAM...not even sure how that's possible...
[03:30] <Cheri703> but it does
[03:30] <Cheri703> I have a spare 256mb, but it's not going to add much to the party
[03:30] <BR_> anyone know were I can get some help with archlinux
[03:31] <holstein> BR_: they have a channel right?
[03:31] <holstein> theres a great manual
[03:31] <Cheri703> this is what I was referring to: "For Grub 2, there's a utility to do this automatically. You'll need to have GRUB_DEFAULT=saved in /etc/default/grub. Then run grub-reboot Windows from Linux when you want the next boot to be Windows; the boot after that to be Linux."
[03:31] <Cheri703> so I might try that
[03:32] <holstein> BR_: /j #archlinux
[03:32] <holstein> links in the topic
[03:32] <BR_> thanks
[03:32] <holstein> Cheri703: so it just goes every other time
[03:33] <holstein> lin-win-lin-win
[03:33] <holstein> that might be acceptable
[03:33] <holstein> and its do-able
[03:33] <Cheri703> well, I think it's a "run once to go to windows, after that it's back to linux" and subsequent boots into linux until run again
[03:33] <Cheri703> I dunno
[03:33] <holstein> hmmm
[03:34] <holstein> i can imagine that something could be scripted
[03:34] <holstein> i have no idea how ;)
[03:34] <holstein> but in theory
[03:34] <Cheri703> they also suggested putting grub on a little fat32 partition and then can edit config files manually, but I do NOT want to have to configure it EVERY time
[03:34] <Cheri703> :/
[03:34] <holstein> Cheri703: you could make the process automated though
[03:35] <thewrath> hey all!
[03:35] <holstein> i wouldnt totally count that out yet
[03:35] <Cheri703> k
[03:35] <holstein> thewrath: o/
[03:35] <Cheri703> I think this will be my new project :D
[03:35] <thewrath> anyone good with graphics?
[03:35] <holstein> Cheri703: whatever it is, it wont be pretty ;)
[03:35]  * Cheri703 likes finding something no one knows how to do (or just doesn't do often) and figuring out how :)
[03:35] <holstein> but i think thats the answer
[03:36] <red-raven> hey nit-wit can you reopen your channnel?
[03:36] <holstein> thewrath: no, but whats the problem?
[03:36] <thewrath> need someone to do a custom graphic for a fire department
[03:36] <holstein> OH that kind of graphics
[03:37] <holstein> thewrath: maybe you can find someone locally?
[03:37] <holstein> that would really enjoy contributing
[03:37] <BR> I dont think they can hear me
[03:37] <holstein> if not, id say a mailing list
[03:37] <holstein> BR: in the arch channel?
[03:37] <holstein> did you read the manula
[03:37] <thewrath> holstein, it is for a logo to go along with polar bear plunge
[03:37] <BR> yeah
[03:37] <holstein> manual*
[03:37] <holstein> and the wiki?
[03:38] <holstein> i think they can be pretty strict about that over there
[03:38] <holstein> not sure though, maybe theres a 'voice' issue
[03:38] <holstein> BR: are you registered?
[03:38] <holstein> with freenode?
[03:38] <BR> yeah I think so
[03:39] <holstein> BR: double check that
[03:39] <BR> how
[03:39] <holstein> thats actually kinda common
[03:39] <holstein> that you have to be registered to have voice
[03:39] <holstein> BR: when you login, do you use a password?
[03:39] <holstein> something like /msg chanserv identify nick pass
[03:39] <BR> I dont login
[03:40]  * tronyx waves to holstein 
[03:40] <holstein> tronyx: :)
[03:40] <tronyx> how goes man
[03:40] <holstein> not bad at all
[03:40] <holstein> picked up a last minute gig tonite
[03:40] <holstein> weather is better
[03:40] <tronyx> awesome
[03:40] <holstein> how were the holidays tronyx ?
[03:41] <tronyx> wasn't NC in some kind of state of emergency recently due to some snow?
[03:41] <holstein> yup
[03:41] <holstein> it was crazy
[03:41] <holstein> we had a foot some places here
[03:41] <tronyx> they were great, ty for asking :) spent them in michigan and it was unusually relaxing
[03:41] <holstein> not common
[03:41] <tronyx> dang
[03:41] <tronyx> i hear that NC stops selling alcohol when that happens
[03:41] <tronyx> i would have driven out of state if that was the case and i still lived there LOL
[03:41] <Cheri703> thewrath: www.openclipart.org is a good starting point for graphics
[03:41] <holstein> charlotte had some snow to speak of even
[03:41] <Cheri703> many are svg files
[03:42] <holstein> thewrath: i still think maybe someone local might enjoy contributing
[03:42] <thewrath> Cheri703, how easy is it to use?
[03:42] <red-raven> nit-wit u here?
[03:42] <thewrath> true
[03:42] <nit-wit> red-raven, yeah
[03:42] <holstein> but yeah, somewhere online might be easy thewrath
[03:42] <Cheri703> thewrath: it's a clipart site, you can find a file and put it into inkscape and edit it
[03:42] <holstein> or just keep asking around
[03:43] <red-raven> reopen your channel please. couldn't get back in.
[03:43] <BR> says cant send to channel
[03:44] <holstein> BR: the channel flags are Ccnt
[03:44] <holstein> if you'd like to look up what that means
[03:44] <holstein> i forget
[03:44] <BR> ?
[03:44] <Cheri703> thewrath: http://www.openclipart.org/search/?query=polar+bear
[03:44] <holstein> BR: for the arch channel
[03:44] <BR> ok
[03:45] <holstein> BR: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[03:45] <holstein> i bet thats the issue
[03:45] <BR> ok
[03:46] <Roydaman2> ok i have a bunch of .avi video files i want to convert and burn to dvd is there a program i could use to do that??
[03:48] <tronyx> i think you can do that with brasero
[03:49] <holstein> http://stikiflem.wordpress.com/2008/09/21/convert-avi-to-dvd-in-ubuntu/ *if not
[03:49] <tronyx> nice link
[03:49] <Roydaman2> tronyx: i tried brasero but it doesnt convert files just burns .avi files to disk
[03:49] <tronyx> probably more useful than my suggestion =p
[03:49] <holstein> that post is a bit old though...
[03:50] <Roydaman2> i was googling it and found devede any one heard of taht b 4
[03:50] <holstein> i see devede in the repos though
[03:50] <holstein> 10.04
[03:50] <holstein> Roydaman2: ive read about it somewhere before
[03:50] <Roydaman2> thats another thing how do i find out what ver. ubuntu i have?
[03:51] <Roydaman2> i know i have a zorin dist.
[03:51] <Roydaman2> version
[03:51] <holstein> you can look at your sources
[03:51] <holstein> see what ubuntu repos you're using
[03:51] <holstein> id just go ahead and install devede though
[03:52] <holstein> sudo apt-get install devede
[03:52] <holstein> seems like thats the tool if you dont want to convert the .avi's before hand
[03:52] <tronyx> Roydaman2:  lsb_release -a
[03:53] <holstein> tronyx: i'll never remember that ;)
[03:53] <Roydaman2> ok sweet 10.10
[03:53] <tronyx> lol
[03:54] <BR> still cant get it to work
[03:55] <holstein> BR: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/IRC_Channel
[03:56] <holstein> The channel is currently +q $~a. This means that you have to register and identify with the NickServ service before you can talk in the channel
[03:58] <Cheri703> got another question, might stump you guys (note: I haven't googled it yet): is it possible to have a separate hostname for each network device within the same computer? as in: computer1 is the hostname if using wireless, computer2 is the hostname if using wired....
[03:58] <holstein> Cheri703: w0w
[03:58] <holstein> another good one ;)
[03:59] <Cheri703> my router doesn't like having the same hostname twice, but I want it to assign static dhcp to my netbook. I already have it in as wireless, so I need a different hostname for wired :/
[03:59]  * Cheri703 has always been good at having problems others have never seen ;)
[04:01] <holstein> Cheri703: how about http://tinyurl.com/2vtystn
[04:02] <Cheri703> close...
[04:02] <Cheri703> that is about assigning based on ip
[04:02] <Cheri703> I want the router to assign the ip, I want the name based on the MAC address....basically
[04:03] <holstein> :/
[04:03] <holstein> thats the best i can do
[04:03] <holstein> google-fu
[04:03] <Cheri703> :) it's appreciated
[04:03] <Cheri703> yeah, I'll be doing plenty o googling tomorrow. hopefully going to have a short work day
[04:03] <holstein> nice
[04:04] <Cheri703> installing xp now on the one desktop ;)
[04:04] <Cheri703> and prepping my liveusb
[04:26] <shawn146> back
[04:27] <shawn146> ahh you should see what my dad actually helped me buy
[04:27] <shawn146> a PROTO CX 80 dollar helicopter
[04:43] <shawn146> no
[04:43] <shawn146> oops wrong chat
[04:44] <Cheri703> holstein: I went with static ip within ubuntu on wireless, and assigned static dhcp in router for wired connection, that way both will have same ip no matter what
[05:30] <stlsaint> HELP
[05:30] <stlsaint> hrm, hey you smart server folks
[05:36] <JackyAlcine> :D
[05:43] <stlsaint> never mind, i googled my issue :D
[05:45] <shawn146> oh
[05:46] <shawn146> i need some help
[05:49] <geekosopher> !question | shawn146
[05:49] <ubot2> shawn146: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[06:19] <Cheri703> holstein: still around?
[06:32] <shawn146> holstein ?
[07:05] <shawn146> hello?
[07:06] <shawn146> anyone awake to help me get JLime working on my Jornada 720?
[07:17] <IAmNotThatGuy> !ask | shawn146
[07:17] <ubot2> shawn146: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[07:17] <shawn146> ok
[07:17] <shawn146> can someone do vnc with me if they know a lot about linux?
[07:18] <IAmNotThatGuy> I cant do that now :{
[07:24] <shawn146> oh :(
[07:24] <shawn146> iw as hoping to get this working
[07:25] <shawn146> ...looks like thats not gonna happen
[07:38] <JackyAlcine> What exactly do you need shawn146?
[07:43] <IAmNotThatGuy> wb andrew_46 (:
[07:44] <andrew_46> IAmNotThatGuy: Hi :)
[07:48] <IAmNotThatGuy> whats up andrew_46 ?
[07:50] <andrew_46> Just relaxing after work, and you?
[07:50] <IAmNotThatGuy> have to go for shopping today andrew_46 and -team?
[07:51] <andrew_46> not today :). How is the ubuntu-beginners team travelling?
[07:51] <IAmNotThatGuy> Our teams is always good andrew_46. but we miss ya
[07:52] <shawn146> i need to fix this kernal panic http://jlime.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=3077&p=11136&hilit=kernal+panic#p11136
[07:52] <shawn146> person with same device and problem as me
[07:57] <andrew_46> oops, grandchildren duty, see you :)
[09:50] <kuttans> hello everybody, anyone know how the nm applet handles the connections, i mean the config files, i heard all linux gui use simple conf files in the backend , ist true
[09:54] <kuttans> come on guys no one there to tell me about the nm backend conf files?
[09:54] <head_victim> kuttans: http://live.gnome.org/NetworkManagerConfiguration might help
[09:54] <head_victim> I'm still reading to find you the best link sorry
[09:55] <head_victim> http://live.gnome.org/NetworkManager/SystemSettings
[09:55] <kuttans> thx let me try
[09:56] <kuttans> its way too less informative
[09:56] <head_victim> kuttans: looks like /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[09:58] <head_victim> You could also try a "locate NetworkManager" that lists a few likely suspects
[10:00] <head_victim> http://projects.gnome.org/NetworkManager/  suggests the #nm channel on this network would be able to help or they have a mailing list
[10:00] <head_victim> Hope that helps but sorry I have to run afk for a while.
[11:42] <jermza> Silly Evolution question here, but, after you've created a signature, how do you add line breaks (to move the signature down a few lines. so that it's not squashed up against the body text)?
[11:43] <Puck`> jermza: add the lines on top of the signature i'd say
[11:43] <UndiFineD> try \n
[11:47] <jermza> If you simply push SPace bar a few times, Evolution doesn't ACTUALLY move the signature down.
[11:47] <jermza> Not Space - I mean Entr
[11:47] <jermza> Enter*
[11:51] <jermza> lines above signature don't wrk
[11:51] <jermza> hmm
[11:52] <jermza> nothing seems to move the signature down
[13:43] <jermza> How do I check if Evolution is trying to download my mails from Gmail?
[13:44] <jermza> My ISP tells me that I've used 8.5 gigs in 4 days
[13:47] <JackyAlcine_> Evolution's retarded with e-mail; I use Thunderbird.
[13:48] <jermza> That's not a constructive answer, but thanks. :-)
[13:49] <JackyAlcine_> lol, sorry.
[13:49] <JackyAlcine_> Evolution just gets me mad.
[13:54] <AndrewMC> jermza: on GMail's web page there is a way to see where the last few conections were from (IP, time, what tool was used to fetch the mail etc)... That is on the home page near the bottom there is "Last account  Activity:" and there is a "Details" button.... click that and evolution would be using IMAP (or maybe POP)
[13:56] <jermza> All IMAP
[13:57] <AndrewMC> jermza: then most likely thats empathy :)
[13:57] <jermza> doing what?
[13:57] <AndrewMC> checking for new mail
[13:57] <jermza> 8 gigs in 4 days?
[13:58] <jermza> Gmail's 'Latest Account Acitivity' link shows very few connections and nothing unusual.
[14:00] <AndrewMC> then perhaps its another app that is using the bandwidth
[14:00] <jermza> Is there a way to check that?
[14:01] <AndrewMC> Well the only way i know of is to see all the in and out traffic by going to System > Administration > System Monitor > Resources
[14:07] <jermza> I've just plugged in a new router.  It has wireless for my wife's laptop.  How do I set it up?
[14:07] <jermza> At the top panel, there is a connections icon
[14:08] <jermza> It says Auto Eth0
[14:09] <svaksha> ...which means its connected automatically.
[14:10] <svaksha> jermza: fire up FF and check if you can browse
[14:10] <jermza> I can browse.
[14:10] <jermza> I'm using it right now.
[14:10] <svaksha> :)
[14:11] <jermza> 1.) Can I change Auto Eth0 to a new name?  I tried but it won't let me.
[14:11] <jermza> 2. ) How do I check the wireless connection for my wife's laptop?
[14:44] <doez> I've recently formatted my computer to ubuntu 10.10. It works perfectly, but when I apply my closed-source "FGLRX" for my HD5870 it crashes after the startup sound. After several reboots it finally works. Can I find another driver or am I a lost cause?
[14:45] <doez> Graphics driver, that is.
[15:08] <Cheri703> question regarding ssh: *generally* do routers/computers just listen on port 22 or do I HAVE to have the port forwarded? I ask because I now have 2 computers on my home network that I'd like to be able to ssh into
[15:21] <Puck`> well you need to forward the port since the router doesn't know where to point the port
[15:22] <Cheri703> ok, I have it forwarded to computer 1 now, but Ideally I'd like to be able to ssh into computer 2 as well...
[15:23] <Cheri703> eh, well, I can ssh from out of the house into computer1 and from computer1 to computer3
[15:23] <Cheri703> *2
[15:23] <Cheri703> so...not pretty, but it'll work
[15:26] <holstein> Cheri703: theres no reason why you can't put them on different ports
[15:26] <Cheri703> I only knew of ssh going via port 22...
[15:26] <holstein> there's also the security by obscurity philosophy
[15:27] <Voting> trying to print from  Ubuntu 10.04 LTS the Lucid Lynx into a cannon MX860 but when I do, it says something about a missing filter. Should I uninstall and re-install the driver? If so, how do I do that? THANKS!!
[15:27] <holstein> my ssh server is not on port 22
[15:27] <holstein> you can specify with an argument Cheri703
[15:27] <Cheri703> ok, I don't know wow to do that holstein  :)
[15:27] <Cheri703> ok
[15:27] <Cheri703> oh, and holstein I got the headless dual-boot working :D
[15:27] <holstein> ssh whatever@whatever -p 1234
[15:28] <holstein> Cheri703: DO TELL :)
[15:29] <Cheri703> ahh, ok, I'll try that holstein
[15:29] <Cheri703> that "grub-reboot " thing, except not "windows" you put the number of the grub entry (starting with 0, that threw me off for a while), and it will do a 1 time boot into that OS, so you then reboot normally, and back to ubuntu :D
[15:29] <Cheri703> it's pretty sweet
[15:30] <holstein> Cheri703: not bad
[15:30] <Cheri703> I made a script and launcher, so I can just use that to reboot, and I set up vnc into both sides of it, so I can access it remotely :) I am now working on being able to ssh into it (and someone from my loco will be helping me with putty for the windows side)
[15:30] <holstein> thats easy enough and you dont have to touch the box
[15:31] <holstein> Cheri703: if you can ssh from linux
[15:31] <holstein> you wont need help with putty
[15:31] <Cheri703> ok
[15:31] <Cheri703> I've just never used it
[15:44] <Cheri703> holstein: if I use the -p to assign a port, how do I tell the computer to accept ssh from that port? because I'd assume it's generally listening on 22
[15:46] <Puck`> you need to edit /etc/ssh/sshd.conf i think
[15:47] <Puck`> not sure where the conf file is, but i'll do a fast google search if it's not there
[15:47] <Cheri703> hmm..ok
[15:47] <Cheri703> thanks :)
[15:54] <Silver_Fox_> Hello.
[16:02] <udienz> Hello Silver_Fox_
[16:05] <JoeMaverickSett> ~
[16:06] <JoeMaverickSett> hello all! :)
[16:08] <jermza> If I disable 3d Cube, then I can't move between desktops.  What setting must I turn on in order to move between desktops?
[16:11] <JoeMaverickSett> jermza: try desktop wall. :)
[16:11] <jermza> aH, THANKS.
[16:12] <jermza> Is it possible to move between desktops by dragging a window?  (Like in 3d Cube)
[16:13] <JoeMaverickSett> jermza: yes, i think so.
[16:14] <Silver_Fox_> Hello udienz
[16:21] <JoeMaverickSett> jermza: by issuing Shift + Ctrl + Alt + Left/Right Arrow Key. :)
[16:21] <jermza> tHANKS.  But when you use a 3D cube, you simply drag the window across.
[16:21] <jermza> With the 3D cube off, how can you drag a window across desktops?
[16:22] <JoeMaverickSett> jermza: yeah, i got abit confused while doing some work, draggind doesn't work when 3D cube is off. :|
[17:34] <Roydaman2> how do i install a .tar.gz program?? i know that it is compressed and i have to extract it but when i right clicked it and extracted it shows the file but i cannot do anything with it, i tried clicking allow executing file as a program but still nothing
[17:37] <Roydaman2> im trying to figure out how to use a .uif file that i downloaded it says to use powerISO and mount the file but i cannot install powerISO
[18:10] <Daniel0108> hi
[19:35] <kristian-2> hi ppl
[19:35] <kristian-2> hi holstein
[19:41] <holstein> :/
[19:42] <holstein> too late
[19:42] <holstein> oh well
[20:21] <zealth_> hellp?
[20:21] <zealth_> I need help
[20:21] <zealth_> i have a question!
[20:22] <akshatj> !ask | zealth_
[20:22] <ubot2> zealth_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[20:23] <zealth_> when I select to use a program sometimes my mouse wont work on it and sometimes it will i mean by saying it wond click on that progrm and I have to use my keyboard why is that?
[20:24] <zealth_> How can I change a setting to let me use my mouse always?
[20:24] <holstein> zealth_: what program?
[20:25] <zealth_> all
[20:25] <zealth_> when I open an application my mouse cant click things on it.
[20:25] <zealth_> unless I play with it for a while
[20:25] <holstein> lets talk about the 'play with it' proceedure
[20:26] <zealth_> okay
[20:27] <holstein> you jiggle a wire?
[20:27] <holstein> what?
[20:27] <holstein> 2-inch drop ;)
[20:27] <zealth_> ill left click on the application or just drop alll and then pop it back up
[20:27] <holstein> zealth_: gnome?
[20:27] <zealth_> I know its not the mouse. it works fine for a wireless mouse
[20:27] <zealth_> no Ubuntu 10.10
[20:27] <holstein> sounds to me like you might have changed the 'focus' settings somehow
[20:28] <holstein> you running compiz all tricked out?
[20:28] <zealth_> okay?
[20:28] <zealth_> I son't think so I just installed last night!
[20:28] <holstein> try disabling compiz for a minute
[20:28] <holstein> see if that helps
[20:28] <zealth_> okay, how would I do that?
[20:28] <holstein> well, there are lots of ways
[20:28] <holstein> i would probably fire up a web browser
[20:29] <zealth_> the quickest and easiest?
[20:29] <holstein> and search for 'disabling compiz in ubuntu'
[20:29] <holstein> BUT, that being said
[20:29] <zealth_> how would you do it?
[20:29] <akshatj> zealth_: best would be pressing ALT+F2 and then typing metacity --replace
[20:29] <holstein> you can right click on the desktop
[20:29] <holstein> go to 'change desktop backgroud'
[20:30] <holstein> go to 'visual effects'
[20:30] <zealth_> usually sometimes that wont work unless I left click first
[20:30] <holstein> and select 'none'
[20:31] <holstein> zealth_: was it like that right after you installed?
[20:31] <holstein> if you have a touchpad, does that have the same behavior?
[20:31] <zealth_> yes
[20:31] <holstein> OK, just checking
[20:31] <zealth_> no its just a desktop
[20:32] <zealth_> and yes its been going on since install
[20:32] <holstein> zealth_: i still think trying it without compiz is a decent trouble-shooting step
[20:33] <holstein> akshatj: is it compiz --replace to get it back?
[20:33] <zealth> okay
[20:33] <akshatj> holstein: yeah
[20:33] <holstein> handy
[20:34] <zealth>        
[20:34] <akshatj> holstein: although it doesn't work for me as my card is blacklisted
[20:34] <holstein> akshatj: :/
[20:34] <holstein> you're not missing much
[20:35] <holstein> i have a VIA chip that wont do it either
[20:35] <zealth_> okay how do I close compiz?
[20:35] <holstein> i like to have it on my EEE i carry around to impress people :)
[20:35] <holstein> make them want some buntu
[20:36] <holstein> 15:29 < akshatj> zealth_: best would be pressing ALT+F2 and then typing metacity --replace
[20:36] <zealth_> okay did that
[20:36] <holstein> how does it seem?
[20:36] <holstein> the same?
[20:36] <zealth_> yep.
[20:36] <akshatj> zealth_: and compiz will get closed automatically
[20:37] <holstein> zealth_: 10.10?
[20:38] <zealth_> 10.10
[20:38] <zealth_> yea
[20:39] <holstein> zealth_: gnome right?
[20:39] <holstein> just plain ubuntu?
[20:39] <zealth_> yep for now
[20:41] <zealth_> so what should i do?
[20:41] <holstein> thats a good one zealth_
[20:42] <zealth_> I am new to ubuntu.
[20:42] <holstein> i would probably make sure i was up to date with package updates
[20:42] <zealth_> i am
[20:42] <holstein> google around a bit with that motherboard info
[20:42] <zealth_> it a compaq.
[20:42] <holstein> see if you can find something on an ubuntu forum or something
[20:43] <zealth_> okay!
[20:43] <holstein> not really sure
[20:43] <holstein> theres not a setting to enable that funcionality really
[20:43] <zealth_> well thanks for the help!
[20:43] <holstein> it should just be working
[20:43] <zealth_> i figured
[20:43] <holstein> and if you didnt do anything to break it
[20:43] <holstein> and it came like that
[20:43] <zealth_> i know im not bad with computers to where this should be happening
[20:44] <zealth_> i guess ill try replaceing the battery in the mouce.
[20:44] <holstein> i would start looking for that compaq model # on the forums
[20:44] <zealth_> okay
[20:44] <holstein> zealth_: you should try another mouse for sure
[20:44] <holstein> and maybe another live cd
[20:44] <holstein> whatever you have laying around thats not ubuntu 10.10
[20:45] <zealth_> y?
[20:45] <holstein> try and rule out a hardware issue before beating your head against a wall
[20:45] <zealth_> okay
[20:45] <zealth_> i did once already
[20:45] <holstein> zealth_: ?
[20:45] <holstein> what were the results?
[20:46] <zealth_> okay
[20:46] <zealth_> same]
[20:46] <holstein> with what other live CD?
[20:47] <holstein> zealth_: try a PS/2 mouse if you can find one
[20:47] <holstein> should be able to get one at a charity shop for a couple bucks
[20:48] <zealth_> okay or just a different mouce
[20:48] <holstein> i would try PS2
[20:48] <holstein> that will be very telling
[20:49] <holstein> if it works fine, you'll know its not a config issue
[20:49] <holstein> you can start testing the USB ports
[21:12] <red-raven> hey guys. sup?
[21:25] <red-raven> so i need some help deciding what distro to put on this old XP. its got about 512 MB RAM i think. im looking at: lubuntu, mint, Xubuntu, and slitaz. ive heard more good things from lubuntu recently, and the worst seems to be Xubuntu (judging by wiki page). also, mint didn't seem to be any smaller than ubuntu. and i haven't heard a thing about slitaz other than its small.
[21:25] <holstein> 512 is not that bad
[21:25] <holstein> if you want to run gnome
[21:25] <holstein> do-able
[21:26] <holstein> you can always just install ubuntu
[21:26] <holstein> and get the variants
[21:26] <holstein> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[21:26] <holstein> or whatever...
[21:27] <holstein> OR just install lxde
[21:27] <red-raven> yah, but it would be slower than normal i think. and anyways id rather try a new distro to get more experience.
[21:27] <red-raven> lxde?
[21:27] <holstein> lubuntu is using lxde
[21:27] <holstein> its all buntu
[21:28] <Yorvyk> It is and very nice it is too - Natty is quite well behaved
[21:28] <red-raven> hm. idk. there's just so many.
[21:28] <holstein> right
[21:28] <holstein> well, you dont have to decide really
[21:28] <JackyAlcine> red-raven: that's what makes it so cool. Try them all and see what you like.
[21:28] <holstein> you just install buntu
[21:29] <holstein> and choose at boot
[21:29] <red-raven> and ive never heard of getting ubuntu and then all the varients. how does it work? are they just added to GRUB?
[21:30] <holstein> you're probably seeing GDM
[21:30] <holstein> after grub
[21:30] <holstein> right now
[21:30] <red-raven> GDM?
[21:30] <holstein> i think its called 'session'
[21:30] <holstein> sessions?
[21:30] <holstein> something like that
[21:30] <holstein> down at the bottom where you enter your user and pass
[21:30] <holstein> IF you have that setup to happen graphically
[21:30] <zealth_> i got the mouse,
[21:31] <holstein> thats where you would choose lxde or gnome or KDE or whatever
[21:31] <holstein> when you login
[21:31] <holstein> zealth_: do tell...
[21:32] <holstein> or not...
[21:32] <red-raven> so if i installed ubuntu and then just DLd more distros, would i only be able to get ubuntu varients, or any kind?
[21:33] <holstein> i think we should talk about the term 'distro' there
[21:33] <holstein> ubuntu is the distro
[21:33] <holstein> and really the rest are just variants of the same distro
[21:33] <holstein> using different packages
[21:33] <red-raven> and xubuntu etc. is....
[21:33] <holstein> all from the same repos usually
[21:34] <JackyAlcine> Not really, red-raven, if you download each iso, you download a different *system*. Each system has a *desktop environment* (GNOME, lxde, KDE).
[21:34] <JackyAlcine> So Ubuntu = GNOME
[21:34] <JackyAlcine> Kubuntu = KDE
[21:34] <JackyAlcine> Lubuntu = LxDE
[21:34] <JackyAlcine> Xubuntu = XFCE (?)
[21:34] <holstein> yup
[21:34] <holstein> xfce
[21:34] <holstein> all buntu though
[21:34] <holstein> same distro
[21:34] <yofel> still the same distro though, since all share the same package archive
[21:34] <holstein> you can download an alternate iso
[21:35] <holstein> and install a command line only system
[21:35] <red-raven> different environments, same distro?
[21:35] <holstein> and 'upgrade' to any of those variants
[21:35] <holstein> really easily *in theory
[21:35] <JackyAlcine> yup red-raven
[21:35] <JackyAlcine> Fedora, Gentoo and MeeGo are other systems that resemble Ubuntu..
[21:35] <yofel> red-raven: the underlying system is the same, just the desktop environment is different
[21:36] <geirha> You can also install ubuntu, then remove the gnome-packages and install the kubuntu-desktop package ... and voila, you have kubuntu.
[21:36] <geirha> Only hard part is figuring out what packages to remove.
[21:37] <red-raven> ok. so i wouldn't have multiple copies of the ubuntu, just one copy and different environments to choose from? im thinking memory-wise here.
[21:37] <yofel> now if you compare fedora, ubuntu, suse, gentoo, arch, ... they all have their own package archive and thus are seperate systems that you can't mix like you can with ubuntu and kubuntu
[21:37] <geirha> You can install all the other desktop environments in whatever ubuntu-flavor you have installed. Users will be able to choose which one to use from the login-screen.
[21:38] <akshatj> red-raven: you can install different desktop environments easily from software centre
[21:38] <red-raven> ok thx. how much memory are environments?
[21:39] <holstein> they are all different
[21:39] <holstein> lxde and xfce are considered light
[21:39] <holstein> or were ;)
[21:39] <holstein> kde and gnome are usually considered heavier
[21:40] <geirha> red-raven: You mean disk space? Hard to say off-hand. Have to sum the size of all the packages related to it.
[21:40] <holstein> lxde is a nice easy light one to try out i think
[21:40] <holstein> yeah, i assumed we were talking 'memory'
[21:41] <red-raven> can you make live disks of lubuntu?
[21:41] <JackyAlcine> Yup.
[21:41] <holstein> red-raven: there are
[21:41] <JackyAlcine> Just download the iso, and use UNetbootin.
[21:41] <geirha> lubuntu.net
[21:45] <red-raven> how much does the ubuntu iso take up? i never deleted it off my laptop.
[21:45] <JackyAlcine> ISO? or fresh install?
[21:45] <JackyAlcine> ISO: 693 MB.
[21:45] <JackyAlcine> Fresh: ~ 2.6 GB
[21:47] <red-raven> iso used to create the live disk. thx.
[21:47] <geirha> MiB, not MB, but it doesn't make that much difference.
[21:48] <red-raven> alright so first i have to go nuclear on the XP because its virus-riden. then i need to reinstall it (parents). and ill get to choosing a first distro later.
[21:48] <red-raven> dleting XP from an Ubuntu Live disk using Gparted should work right?
[21:48] <red-raven> deleting*
[21:49] <geirha> Hehe, yeah, the general solution to all windows problems: reinstall :)
[21:49] <red-raven> lol. i realize now how buggy they are.
[21:50] <geirha> red-raven: Yes, the installer will ask if you want to overwrite whatever operating system is already installed, or install it side-by-side with the current operating system(s).
[21:50] <red-raven> im putting XP back on first.
[21:54] <Yorvyk> red-raven, partition the drive with gParted first it will save resizing later.
[21:55] <red-raven> i will. its 80 GB, so it should be big enough for both.
[21:56] <Yorvyk> Depends how much data you intend to have.  Maybe just split it into 2 equal parts
[21:57] <JackyAlcine> Right now, I'm developing applications that rely on speed and harness, LXDE seems to satisfy it greatly.
[21:57] <JackyAlcine> It's not as pretty as GNOME, but it saves its a**.
[21:58] <red-raven> wtf. i told it to boot into the disk drive. it loads xp. the Live CD is in there.
[21:59] <red-raven> cool. what do they do?
[22:02] <red-raven> it wont boot from disk no matter what i do. i even set the drive to be the first boot option.
[22:04] <red-raven> should i turn OS install mode on?
[22:05] <JackyAlcine> Hold on, did you make a live CD or live USB?
[22:05] <JackyAlcine> and the application's description is here [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SpeechControl]
[22:06] <red-raven> Live CD from when i put it on this laptop. is it possible the ribbon cable is loose? cause the light on the drive is on but its not even spinning.
[22:07] <holstein> anything is possible
[22:07] <holstein> double check the bios though
[22:07] <red-raven> check what settings?
[22:08] <holstein> the boot order settings
[22:09] <red-raven> i set the disk drive to the top spot. even disabled the HD, and it said can't boot press F1 to try again and F2 to return to booot menu.
[22:09] <red-raven> Boot*
[22:09] <holstein> lets define some artilces too
[22:09] <holstein> what wont boot in what?
[22:09] <holstein> CD wont boot in laptop?
[22:10] <JackyAlcine> The hard drive refuses to boot?
[22:11] <red-raven> the CD wont boot in the XP im trying to wipe. in the laptop its fine.
[22:11] <red-raven> the HD will boot but i want the CD.
[22:11] <holstein> what is 'in the xp im trying to wipe'
[22:11] <holstein> ?
[22:11] <holstein> what machine?
[22:13] <JackyAlcine> How did you make the CD?
[22:14] <red-raven> I have two rigs: the laptop, which is fine and dual boots Ubuntu and Win7 perfectly, and the old virus-riden XP. on the XP, i am wiping it, then reinstalling XP, then dual-booting ubuntu. im trying to make it boot from the live cd i made when i put ubuntu on the laptop, so i can wipe it with Gparted. but it wont boot into the disk drive.
[22:14] <red-raven> i made it with the 64 bit iso.
[22:14] <red-raven> from 10.10 ubuntu.
[22:14] <holstein> and the old xp on the xp
[22:14] <holstein> what is that?
[22:14] <holstein> dell?
[22:14] <holstein> desktop?
[22:14] <holstein> laptop?
[22:14] <holstein> mac?
[22:14] <red-raven> dell dimension 3000 (desktop)
[22:15] <holstein> thats the bios we need to look at
[22:15] <Yorvyk> Is the dell 54 bit?
[22:15] <Yorvyk> 64 even
[22:15] <red-raven> maybe. how do i check?
[22:15] <holstein> yeah, theres you're problem
[22:15] <red-raven> why?
[22:16] <holstein> you're trying to boot a 64bit iso on a 32bit box
[22:16] <red-raven> fudge.
[22:16] <holstein> ;)
[22:17] <red-raven> so i need a new live disk?
[22:17] <holstein> red-raven: dont worry, theres a reason why i know that wont work
[22:17] <holstein> yeah, the 32bit one
[22:17] <red-raven> hm, well this opens up some options.
[22:17] <holstein> kinda
[22:17] <holstein> limits them too
[22:17] <holstein> 32 bit only
[22:17] <holstein> which is fine
[22:18] <red-raven> i have to dicide its first environment/distro now.....
[22:18] <JackyAlcine> Ubuntu!
[22:18] <holstein> burn some live discs and have some fun :)
[22:19] <red-raven> should i go with standared ubuntu, or a different default environment?
[22:19] <holstein> red-raven: how many black CD's do you have
[22:19] <holstein> blank*
[22:19] <red-raven> a few. they're my dads. but he doesn't mind if i use one or two.
[22:20] <JackyAlcine> Well, if she has a USB (to me, that loads faster than a CD)
[22:20] <red-raven> let me double check that.
[22:20] <red-raven> id rather not be risking another USB. that last on got.......infested. CDs can lock themselves.
[22:22] <holstein> hey, looks like that deminsion 3000 does USB boot
[22:22] <holstein> red-raven: i usually format my USB's before using unetbootin
[22:22] <holstein> sometimes funky things happen
[22:23] <holstein> i rarely have data and some bootable iso going on at the same time
[22:23] <red-raven> yah, but like i said, that opens it up to the virus. and ive never usb booted before. just Live CD.
[22:23] <holstein> red-raven: what does?
[22:23] <holstein> the USB?
[22:23] <holstein> format it in windows
[22:23] <holstein> take the data off, and wipe it
[22:24] <holstein> voila, virus free :)
[22:24] <holstein> format it in ubuntu *
[22:24] <JackyAlcine> Or format it as ext2 in Ubuntu and then reformat to FAT32,
[22:24] <JackyAlcine> Zerobit the drive.
[22:24] <JackyAlcine> And then reformat again in Windows.
[22:25] <holstein> alright.. BBL
[22:26] <red-raven> ok. can this be done on a write protected drive? cause the one that got infected does work, but its write protected. i tried deleting everying thing yesterday and it wouldn't. would it allow formating?
[22:26] <JackyAlcine> The USB? or the disk?
[22:26] <red-raven> USB.
[22:27] <JackyAlcine> How is the USB write-protected?
[22:27] <JackyAlcine> Is it a MicroSD or something?
[22:27] <red-raven> IDK. no switch. i didn't do it. glitch from the virus maybe.
[22:27] <JackyAlcine> If you can't write data to a drive, chances are you can't format it.
[22:27] <red-raven> crap.
[22:27] <JackyAlcine> That's extremely awkward.
[22:28] <JackyAlcine> Is it a SanDisk Cruzer thing? what's the make and model of the USB?
[22:28] <red-raven> PNY.
[22:28] <JackyAlcine> ?
[22:28] <red-raven> thats the brand
[22:30] <red-raven> fudge. hold this discussion. my moms laptop just crashed. no i have to fix it. its 64 bit, can i evauate it from the Live CD?
[22:30] <JackyAlcine> Using a 32-bit LiveCD, yes.
[22:31] <JackyAlcine> Either or would work;
[22:31] <red-raven> im using my 64 bit CD. dont have a 32 yet.
[22:33] <red-raven> lol. battery out, put it back in. its alive.
[22:34] <red-raven> ok, got a bunch of disks. some are blank, but i need to check them all.
[22:55] <red-raven> ok so i got two good blank disks, and one that is saying that it can;t be mounted because its an audio CD with nothing on it or something like that.
[22:57] <red-raven> so i can get two Live CDs. im only making one right now. any suggestions? must be 32 bit and usable on 512 GBs RAM. i might just end up getting ubuntu though and just DLing different environments.
[22:59] <red-raven> 512 MB* lol that would be.....unecissary.
[23:02] <Yorvyk> Good place as any to start
[23:03] <red-raven> ok cool. should i put the iso on windows or linux?
[23:04] <Yorvyk> ?
[23:05] <red-raven> when getting the iso to make the disk, is it better to be on win7, linux, or does it matter? the 64 bit is already on win7.
[23:06] <Yorvyk> Doesn't really matter as long as you can down load and burn it
[23:06] <Yorvyk> Best to burn at the lowest speed you can as well
[23:07] <red-raven> how do i change that?
[23:08] <Yorvyk> the program used to burn the ISO normally has a setting for the speed
[23:08] <red-raven> ok cool. guess ill go ahead and do it on linux. im in it already.
[23:11] <red-raven> wait no. win7. i have all the software i need set up there already.
[23:11] <red-raven> cya on the other side.
[23:16] <Red-raven> hey im back. anythng i should ddo before i DL the iso?
[23:17] <holstein> Red-raven: do you have coffee made?
[23:17] <Red-raven> lol im 15. parents
[23:17] <holstein> well, you could do that during the DL
[23:17] <Red-raven> = no ceffee
[23:18] <Red-raven> i already have md5sum. anything else?
[23:20] <Red-raven> holstein
[23:22] <holstein> should be good to go
[23:23] <Red-raven> alright cool.
[23:25] <Red-raven> wow its slower than the 64 but.
[23:26] <Red-raven> bit*
[23:28] <holstein> the download?
[23:28] <Red-raven> yah,
[23:28] <holstein> sometimes i stop and restart
[23:28] <holstein> if its really dragging
[23:29] <Red-raven> its still at %4
[23:29] <holstein> usually takes me 8 to 20 minutees
[23:29] <holstein> minutes*
[23:29] <Red-raven> hm, ok. worth a shot.
[23:29] <holstein> if it says and hour or so, i try another mirror
[23:30] <shawn146> hello
[23:30] <shawn146> is holstein here?
[23:30] <holstein> shawn146: kinda
[23:30] <holstein> whats up?
[23:31] <Red-raven> it says i can open it or DL. would it be possible to open it and burn without DLing?
[23:31] <holstein> you doing well?
[23:31] <shawn146> lol awsome
[23:31] <shawn146> yes
[23:31] <holstein> Red-raven: nope
[23:31] <holstein> still have to DL it
[23:31] <Red-raven> darn.
[23:31] <holstein> either way
[23:31] <shawn146> myd ad gave me his old printer
[23:31] <holstein> nice
[23:31] <shawn146> dell 944 photo
[23:31] <shawn146> it ahs a built inc ard read
[23:31] <holstein> im about to trade one with my grandmother
[23:31] <holstein> i just need the scanner
[23:31] <holstein> and her printer is dying
[23:33] <shawn146> and the usb was ripped out on accident so i spent monday night taking the thing apart, cutting the usb end off, and soldering it directly to the pcb board correctly, and putting it back togethor
[23:33] <shawn146> and it works :D
[23:33] <shawn146> i can use the card reader in it
[23:33] <shawn146> :D
[23:33] <holstein> shawn146: skillz :)
[23:33] <shawn146> lol
[23:33] <Red-raven> new DL is just as slow. may be a slow connection.
[23:33] <shawn146> i have a lot of solder expereince already, been doing it for so long lol
[23:34] <Red-raven> thats awesome.
[23:34] <shawn146> anyway
[23:34] <shawn146> do you have skype holstein ?
[23:34] <holstein> hmmm
[23:35] <holstein> shawn146: i have before
[23:35] <shawn146> oh
[23:35] <holstein> not sure if i have it on this box or not
[23:35] <shawn146> do you still use it?
[23:35] <holstein> nah
[23:35] <holstein> well, i used it on the droid not too long ago
[23:35] <holstein> BUT i setup a mumble server
[23:35] <holstein> and i havent needed skype in a while
[23:36] <shawn146> oh
[23:36] <shawn146> would you be able to get it?
[23:36] <holstein> i suppose
[23:36] <holstein> whats up?
[23:36] <shawn146> i want to show you lol
[23:37] <holstein> hmmm
[23:37] <holstein> shawn146: you could ustream it to us all :)
[23:37] <shawn146> ah
[23:37] <Red-raven> or take pics.
[23:37] <shawn146> but i wouldn't be able tohear tyou
[23:37] <shawn146> *to hear you
[23:37] <Red-raven> does this irc support vid streaming?
[23:38] <holstein> you can hear me in my latest blogpost
[23:38] <holstein> http://holstein-theoryninja.blogspot.com/
[23:39] <holstein> music-theory related, if you're into that kind of thing
[23:39] <Red-raven> holstein do you know a good mirror site that has an exact copy of ubuntu 10.10 32 bit iso?
[23:39] <holstein> Red-raven: nah
[23:40] <holstein> who knows
[23:40] <shawn146> o.o
[23:40] <holstein> could just be slow mirror
[23:40] <shawn146> ok what about oovoo?
[23:40] <holstein> or something on your end
[23:40] <shawn146> ooVoo is better, supports video with multiple users, way better than skype
[23:41] <Red-raven> ......ok.
[23:41] <holstein> shawn146: you run it in wine?
[23:41] <shawn146> oh well nobody is interested
[23:41] <shawn146> you could
[23:41] <holstein> or is there a native .deb?
[23:41] <shawn146> its a windows thing
[23:41] <holstein> AH
[23:42] <holstein> looks interesting