| Cheri703 | eh, they are full of crap on a TON of things, but...if I have a contract, then I'm willing to give it a shot... | 00:00 |
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| dmcglone1 | Hi everyone | 00:29 |
| Cheri703 | hi | 00:29 |
| Unit193 | Hello dmcglone1 | 00:30 |
| dmcglone1 | Hi Unit193, Cheri703 I'll be back in a second | 00:31 |
| dmcglone | back. did an update, and had to reboot. doesn't linux seem to be following in M$'s footsteps | 00:35 |
| Cheri703 | eh, you only really have to reboot when there's a kernel update | 00:35 |
| dmcglone | yeah | 00:35 |
| Cheri703 | and you don't HAVE to reboot immediately, just if you want to hop kernels | 00:35 |
| dmcglone | true | 00:35 |
| Unit193 | Cheri703: I got another P4 2.4 processor.... | 00:38 |
| Cheri703 | nice | 00:38 |
| Unit193 | Need 512 DDR Laptop RAM? | 00:53 |
| Cheri703 | uhm, if you don't? | 00:53 |
| Unit193 | Spare or currently can place in a lap? | 00:54 |
| Cheri703 | would have to check the ones currently in the house to know for sure | 00:54 |
| dmcglone1 | I should be here now | 01:04 |
| Unit193 | Nope | 01:04 |
| dmcglone1 | had to change my DNS entry | 01:04 |
| dmcglone1 | I was trying googles DNS | 01:04 |
| Unit193 | Don't like it? | 01:04 |
| dmcglone1 | nope. it's actually slower than using my ISP's | 01:05 |
| dmcglone1 | I've been eyeballing this one http://www.system76.com/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=106 | 01:10 |
| Cheri703 | nice | 01:16 |
| Cheri703 | did you see the one from zareason? | 01:16 |
| Cheri703 | hoverboard or something I think | 01:16 |
| dmcglone1 | I either want that or a netbook | 01:16 |
| dmcglone1 | no do you have a link? | 01:16 |
| Cheri703 | http://zareason.com/shop/Hoverboard-X30.html | 01:17 |
| dmcglone1 | Thats a nice one too! | 01:19 |
| dmcglone1 | only thing stopping me from buying a netbook is development | 01:19 |
| dmcglone1 | Oh no, the one from zareason only has intel chips | 01:20 |
| dmcglone1 | :-( | 01:20 |
| Cheri703 | http://zareason.com/shop/Strata-Pro-13.html | 01:20 |
| Cheri703 | why is that bad? | 01:20 |
| dmcglone1 | no, I just prefer AMD :-( | 01:21 |
| Cheri703 | ok | 01:21 |
| dmcglone1 | but if I have to I'll get an Intel | 01:22 |
| dmcglone1 | 3D ready laptop: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Toshiba+-+Satellite+Laptop+/+Intel%26%23174;+Core%26%23153;+i5+Processor+/+15.6%22+Display+/+4GB+Memory+/+640GB+Hard+Drive+-+Slate/1277619.p?id=1218246225996&skuId=1277619 | 01:27 |
| dmcglone1 | freakin broken link | 01:27 |
| Cheri703 | was about to say that | 01:27 |
| dmcglone1 | I didn't get it all | 01:27 |
| dmcglone1 | that was all of it | 01:28 |
| dmcglone1 | how stupid of bestbuy | 01:28 |
| dmcglone1 | I'm going to get a shower and watch tv | 01:45 |
| Cheri703 | k | 01:47 |
| dmcglone | Ah all fresh and clean | 02:07 |
| dmcglone | I bet you all could smell me all the way up there :-D | 02:08 |
| Unit193 | Well... the smell just went away :) | 02:10 |
| Unit193 | What are you watching? | 02:11 |
| dmcglone | "all worked up" on Tru tv,but I'm not really paying much attention to it | 02:18 |
| dmcglone | Just got done writing my next blog post for tomorrow :-) | 02:53 |
| Cheri703 | so I think I decided I'm going to dual boot the compaq my dad gave me | 03:15 |
| Unit193 | Why? with what ones? | 03:15 |
| Cheri703 | I have a compaq oem xp pro cd...and that way I can run some windows cpu heavy things without bothering my netbook | 03:16 |
| Cheri703 | xp pro and ubuntu 10.10 I think | 03:16 |
| Cheri703 | so long as 10.10 works properly on it | 03:16 |
| Unit193 | Laptop or Desktop? (does it need ram :D ) | 03:17 |
| Cheri703 | *windows only things | 03:17 |
| Cheri703 | desktop, and YES | 03:17 |
| Cheri703 | you said you had ddr laptop ram? | 03:17 |
| Cheri703 | and that won't work in the b130, correct? | 03:17 |
| Unit193 | What type? DDR laptop, yes (b130 =DDR2) | 03:17 |
| Cheri703 | this: PC2-4200 DDR SDRAM SODIMMs.? | 03:17 |
| Cheri703 | other laptop takes that, but not sure how many slots for it | 03:18 |
| Unit193 | This desktop needs DDR... if I can't use new 1G (KTD440G/1G) it's yours | 03:20 |
| Cheri703 | oh? | 03:22 |
| Unit193 | If it doesn't fit the game comp (would be nice for a spare, but...) | 03:22 |
| Cheri703 | well, thanks :) | 03:23 |
| Unit193 | 2X 256 PC2-4200 DDR2 desktops (fit anything that needs little ram?) | 03:25 |
| Unit193 | What laptop can use the DDR? | 03:25 |
| Cheri703 | the grey one my husband was using thursday | 03:25 |
| Cheri703 | *maybe | 03:25 |
| Cheri703 | have to check on slots | 03:26 |
| Unit193 | It uses WinXP? cpu-z is the tool you need | 03:26 |
| Cheri703 | yeah, it's somewhere though, not sure where he put it | 03:28 |
| Cheri703 | I'll dig it out tomorrow | 03:28 |
| dmcglone | night everyone | 03:30 |
| dmcglone | :-) | 03:30 |
| Unit193 | bye dmcglone! | 03:30 |
| Unit193 | Cheri703: Mind doing a trade for it/them? | 03:30 |
| Cheri703 | maybe? | 03:31 |
| Cheri703 | what did you have in mind? | 03:31 |
| Unit193 | have anything you don't need I may find useful? :) | 03:32 |
| Cheri703 | hmm...will have to poke around | 03:32 |
| Cheri703 | I do have a few cd-rw drives laying around. a 250w (ish) power supply, have to see what else | 03:33 |
| Unit193 | again, the 1G is only if it doesn't fit Zeta (oldish comp that may use SDRAM) | 03:33 |
| Cheri703 | gotcha | 03:34 |
| Cheri703 | np | 03:34 |
| Cheri703 | I'll look around | 03:34 |
| Unit193 | anything else you might need? | 03:35 |
| Cheri703 | hmmmm...will ponder | 03:35 |
| Unit193 | I may have a internal USB hub... | 03:36 |
| Cheri703 | nice | 03:40 |
| Cheri703 | I have 2 15 (maybe 17?) inch crt monitors :) not that you'd want them | 03:40 |
| Unit193 | http://www.laptopmemoryupgrade.com/memory/HewlettPackardOmniBookXE2SeriesMemory.html | 03:47 |
| Unit193 | That's what I have used... | 03:47 |
| Cheri703 | omnibook? | 03:47 |
| Cheri703 | you have one or? | 03:47 |
| Cheri703 | I have some laptop ram that wouldn't fit any of the other ones here | 03:47 |
| Unit193 | Can't really be upgraded... | 03:48 |
| Cheri703 | ah | 03:49 |
| Cheri703 | ok, so dell xps m140 only has one RAM slot and it has 512 already :/ | 03:51 |
| Unit193 | I think I found it:http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/hp-omnibook-xe2-c/1707-3121_7-30074921.html | 03:57 |
| Cheri703 | nice | 03:59 |
| Unit193 | Not really.... slower then a turtle on a hot day.... | 03:59 |
| Cheri703 | Unit193: any non-computer things you might find useful? we have random stuff sometimes. many times someone as been like, "I could really use a ____" and we've happened to have one :) | 04:09 |
| Cheri703 | OH, also, good battery arrived today | 04:09 |
| Unit193 | anything else I should tell friend while I'm at it? | 04:10 |
| Cheri703 | uhm...no? I will check battery + not-my-charger and see how it does. other option is if you guys (either of you) have a 3 pronged pigtail sitting around (the brick > wall part of an adapter) because I have the ACTUAL charger, but only the brick to computer part :/ | 04:12 |
| Cheri703 | basically this: http://www.bizrate.com/miscellaneous/oid855531865.html | 04:12 |
| Unit193 | I could almost bet you money that I could get one.... | 04:13 |
| Cheri703 | ok, give me a minute | 04:14 |
| Cheri703 | ok, yeah, if you can get one, I have the proper dell cord instead of that crappy replacement one | 04:15 |
| * Cheri703 is proud of herself :D | 06:28 | |
| Unit193 | That's most of the time very good, what did you do? | 06:29 |
| Cheri703 | I set up a headless dual-boot machine :D I can remotely choose which OS I want, then log back into it. | 06:30 |
| Cheri703 | I may be recruiting your help on putty, I've not used it before, might give it a shot | 06:30 |
| Unit193 | I can't get off of it... | 06:30 |
| Cheri703 | took me FOREVER to get the auto-switch-os thing working (mostly my error >.<) but it works now | 06:30 |
| Cheri703 | get off of ? | 06:30 |
| Unit193 | PuTTY | 06:31 |
| Cheri703 | ah | 06:31 |
| Cheri703 | so yeah, I might have you help me out with it :) | 06:31 |
| Unit193 | KiTTY is also good... How did you do the remote OS thing? | 06:31 |
| Unit193 | Grub? | 06:31 |
| Cheri703 | well, there's a thing in grub, and I made it into a script, so I can set it to do a one-time boot to the other OS. then it'll boot back to ubuntu | 06:32 |
| Cheri703 | and I made them both have the same ip, so I can vnc into either with the same settings | 06:32 |
| Cheri703 | and I can currently ssh into the ubuntu side, but I'd like to ssh into the windows side if possible | 06:32 |
| Unit193 | Yes it is | 06:33 |
| Cheri703 | ok | 06:33 |
| Cheri703 | sweet :D | 06:33 |
| Cheri703 | not tonight, but at some point I'm going to consult your putty experience | 06:33 |
| Unit193 | CopSSH/cygwin or FreeSSHd for ssh (no X :( ) | 06:34 |
| Cheri703 | ok, don't tell me tonight! my brain is in weird hyper mode and adding more info at this point won't do me any good :) | 06:34 |
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| thafreak | Holy crap, I haven't been on here in A WHILE | 17:07 |
| thafreak | I'm estimating atleast since Dec 22... | 17:08 |
| thafreak | I haven't been in here since last year | 17:08 |
| thafreak | Anyone around? | 17:10 |
| thafreak | Just logged into my machine at home, fired up the browser, and it still had tabs open from when I was looking up stuff for my last stupid class | 17:11 |
| thafreak | don't you hate that... | 17:11 |
| thafreak | finding browser tabs you left open, while researching crap that pissed you off... | 17:12 |
| * Cheri703 is around, sortof | 17:12 | |
| thafreak | Hey Cheri703, hows the job hunt going? | 17:13 |
| Cheri703 | well, it looks like I'm staying, at least for a while. had a discussion with them yesterday, end result will be: actual contractor situation, on-call, more money than last year, so I'm willing to at least see if they can refrain from being insane | 17:13 |
| thafreak | excellent, that's good to hear! | 17:14 |
| deejoe | > willing to at least see if they can refrain from being insane | 17:15 |
| deejoe | more like "more willing to put up with them being insane" | 17:15 |
| Cheri703 | true | 17:16 |
| deejoe | since nothing mention seems to me like a "we'll be less insane" kind of thing | 17:16 |
| deejoe | s/mention/mentioned/ | 17:16 |
| Cheri703 | well, having a contract in place and being on-call will be different from "we want you to pay your own taxes but be available/working 40+ hours per week for what would be under minimum wage for a w-2 employee working 40 hours a week" | 17:17 |
| deejoe | ok, yes | 17:30 |
| deejoe | good point | 17:30 |
| Cheri703 | :) | 17:32 |
| Cheri703 | we'll see. how much more than last year is still tbd, but I'm holding out for a pretty substantial increase (though still way under what I "should" be making) | 17:33 |
| Cheri703 | I'm honestly surprised we did alright for 2010...taxes are going to SUCK though :( didn't hold any aside last year | 17:33 |
| Cheri703 | woo! my little project is coming together! | 17:51 |
| * Cheri703 is pleased | 17:51 | |
| deejoe | say hello to mandatory quarterly payments | 17:55 |
| Cheri703 | yeah :/ | 17:55 |
| Cheri703 | planning on setting aside quite a bit for it this year, and have an accountant doing my taxes this year | 17:55 |
| kyanardag | sorry, I got disconnected, I'm reposting my question (with minor typo corrections): I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 on HP Pavilion dv7 and I have ATI Mobility Radeon graphics card. I take it granted that due to driver issues suspend/resume will not work. But I saw that at System76 website they sell Linux laptops with ATI cards and everything works fine. I contacted them and they said suspend/resume issues can be resolved by fiddling with Powe | 18:25 |
| kyanardag | rManagement. Is there any expert living in Columbus who can help me fixing this issue? | 18:25 |
| Cheri703 | kyanardag: just because system76 hw can suspend/resume alright, doesn't guarantee yours will. some hardware just doesn't like it. It isn't necessarily due to ATI | 18:28 |
| cheri-703 | Woo Android phone | 19:04 |
| canthus13 | kyanardag: suspend/resume has more to do with the BIOS than the video card. Try updating the BIOS on your machine and see if that fixes the problem. | 20:32 |
| kyanardag | canthus13, as far as I know the BIOS is up to date | 20:34 |
| canthus13 | kyanardag: doublecheck anyway. THe main problem with suspend/resume is that most BIOS is a buggy mess of bandaided-together crap that caters to windows. Linux attempts to minimize problems by pretending to be Windows when talking to BIOS. | 20:35 |
| canthus13 | Unfortunately, BIOS is closed-source, which means a lot of reverse-engineering and guesswork on the part of the kernel programmers. | 20:36 |
| Unit193 | canthus13: can' | 20:36 |
| Unit193 | t you use biosdecode? | 20:36 |
| Unit193 | To see what version you have | 20:36 |
| canthus13 | Unit193: Probably. I've seen some disassembled BIOS code, and it's a scary mess. | 20:36 |
| kyanardag | canthus13, i'll check it out again. so, the suspend/resume can not be corrected by a single file hiding in depths of /etc ? | 20:37 |
| canthus13 | Oh. that, I dunno. most BIOS shows the version on boot and inside the CMOS setup. | 20:37 |
| canthus13 | kyanardag: Depends on what's causing it. It *could*, I suppose.. I"d play around with the power management settings. I wouldn't hold out much hope, though. my wife's dv6227cl hates to suspend, no matter what I try. | 20:38 |
| canthus13 | It boots fast enough that she doesn't really care, though. | 20:38 |
| Unit193 | biosdecode or dmidecode may work without reboot | 20:38 |
| canthus13 | bah. Freaking windows is overriding my desktop control keys. :( | 20:39 |
| canthus13 | Whoah. System76 dropped their prices a LOT. my dream laptop is about 1000 bucks cheaper now.. | 20:41 |
| kyanardag | my biosdecode and dmidecode results are here: http://pastebin.com/MCYeLi05 | 20:42 |
| canthus13 | Looks like F.12 I'd check HP's website and see if there's something newer. | 20:43 |
| kyanardag | HP website says completely different BIOS version: | 21:03 |
| kyanardag | WinFlash for HP Notebook System BIOS (for Notebooks with Intel Processors) 2010-07-23 , Version:F.42 A | 21:03 |
| kyanardag_ | canthus13, thank you so much, i did the bios update and voila, suspend/resume works perfectly.. if you didn't tell me bios might be the problem, i would be spending hours changing files with no luck.. | 21:53 |
| thafreak | I forgot how awesome openldap can be! | 22:09 |
| Unit193 | What are you using it for? | 22:17 |
| canthus13 | kyanardag_: Any time. :) | 23:16 |
| canthus13 | thafreak: I haven't forgotten how much of a pain in the ass <any>ldap can be. :P | 23:17 |
| canthus13 | But yeah, sometimes I miss Active Directory. :) | 23:17 |
| Unit193 | I think linux can connect to it... (don't need it for home) | 23:18 |
| Cheri703 | so...just as a note: I'm soliciting tips/advice/whatever along the lines of either "things to do now to make your next installation easier" OR "tips for multi-booters" | 23:18 |
| canthus13 | tip for multi-booters: delete windows. you'll have more hard drive space and less confusion. | 23:18 |
| Cheri703 | well, yes | 23:19 |
| canthus13 | Put windows inside a virtual machine where it can't hurt anything but itself. | 23:19 |
| deejoe | lvm for the win | 23:19 |
| Unit193 | Can't really do that if it isn't your computer | 23:20 |
| canthus13 | true. | 23:20 |
| Cheri703 | the one I set up as a dual-boot is WAY too slow for a vm | 23:20 |
| Unit193 | all too true... | 23:21 |
| Cheri703 | I added 256 ram to it, and it's just over 512 >.< | 23:21 |
| Cheri703 | 2.4 ghz 64 bit processor though...so it has some potential | 23:22 |
| Unit193 | The DDR2 one? | 23:22 |
| Cheri703 | uhm, I dunno? it's the desktop my dad gave me | 23:22 |
| Unit193 | Ah, desktop, was thinking laptop... | 23:23 |
| Unit193 | anyone try LibreOffice yet? | 23:25 |
| Cheri703 | no | 23:25 |
| canthus13 | 64 bit? Dual core? | 23:26 |
| Cheri703 | not dual core | 23:26 |
| Cheri703 | it's an old amd 64 | 23:26 |
| canthus13 | And 512MB ram is too little for Vista, 7, or XPSP3. | 23:26 |
| canthus13 | Oh. Cool. :) | 23:26 |
| Cheri703 | yeah, I need moar ram! | 23:26 |
| canthus13 | More than enough ram for a web server, though. :) | 23:27 |
| Unit193 | canthus13: 512 is fine for XP... | 23:27 |
| canthus13 | Not for SP3. | 23:28 |
| canthus13 | It drags butt badly. | 23:28 |
| canthus13 | for SP2 and earlier it's fine. | 23:28 |
| * Cheri703 just pictured a computer doing the doggy butt scoot O.o | 23:28 | |
| Unit193 | Depends... | 23:29 |
| canthus13 | Cheri703: Hehehe. | 23:36 |
| canthus13 | Unit193: yes. Any windows machine old enough to come with 512MB should wear depends. | 23:37 |
| Unit193 | Funny to watch WinV on a new comp with 512 :D it fails soooo bad... (doesn't MS say you can do it??) | 23:39 |
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