[00:00] eh, they are full of crap on a TON of things, but...if I have a contract, then I'm willing to give it a shot... [00:29] Hi everyone [00:29] hi [00:30] Hello dmcglone1 [00:31] Hi Unit193, Cheri703 I'll be back in a second [00:35] back. did an update, and had to reboot. doesn't linux seem to be following in M$'s footsteps [00:35] eh, you only really have to reboot when there's a kernel update [00:35] yeah [00:35] and you don't HAVE to reboot immediately, just if you want to hop kernels [00:35] true [00:38] Cheri703: I got another P4 2.4 processor.... [00:38] nice [00:53] Need 512 DDR Laptop RAM? [00:53] uhm, if you don't? [00:54] Spare or currently can place in a lap? [00:54] would have to check the ones currently in the house to know for sure [01:04] I should be here now [01:04] Nope [01:04] had to change my DNS entry [01:04] I was trying googles DNS [01:04] Don't like it? [01:05] nope. it's actually slower than using my ISP's [01:10] I've been eyeballing this one http://www.system76.com/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=106 [01:16] nice [01:16] did you see the one from zareason? [01:16] hoverboard or something I think [01:16] I either want that or a netbook [01:16] no do you have a link? [01:17] http://zareason.com/shop/Hoverboard-X30.html [01:19] Thats a nice one too! [01:19] only thing stopping me from buying a netbook is development [01:20] Oh no, the one from zareason only has intel chips [01:20] :-( [01:20] http://zareason.com/shop/Strata-Pro-13.html [01:20] why is that bad? [01:21] no, I just prefer AMD :-( [01:21] ok [01:22] but if I have to I'll get an Intel [01:27] 3D ready laptop: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Toshiba+-+Satellite+Laptop+/+Intel%26%23174;+Core%26%23153;+i5+Processor+/+15.6%22+Display+/+4GB+Memory+/+640GB+Hard+Drive+-+Slate/1277619.p?id=1218246225996&skuId=1277619 [01:27] freakin broken link [01:27] was about to say that [01:27] I didn't get it all [01:28] that was all of it [01:28] how stupid of bestbuy [01:45] I'm going to get a shower and watch tv [01:47] k [02:07] Ah all fresh and clean [02:08] I bet you all could smell me all the way up there :-D [02:10] Well... the smell just went away :) [02:11] What are you watching? [02:18] "all worked up" on Tru tv,but I'm not really paying much attention to it [02:53] Just got done writing my next blog post for tomorrow :-) [03:15] so I think I decided I'm going to dual boot the compaq my dad gave me [03:15] Why? with what ones? [03:16] I have a compaq oem xp pro cd...and that way I can run some windows cpu heavy things without bothering my netbook [03:16] xp pro and ubuntu 10.10 I think [03:16] so long as 10.10 works properly on it [03:17] Laptop or Desktop? (does it need ram :D ) [03:17] *windows only things [03:17] desktop, and YES [03:17] you said you had ddr laptop ram? [03:17] and that won't work in the b130, correct? [03:17] What type? DDR laptop, yes (b130 =DDR2) [03:17] this: PC2-4200 DDR SDRAM SODIMMs.? [03:18] other laptop takes that, but not sure how many slots for it [03:20] This desktop needs DDR... if I can't use new 1G (KTD440G/1G) it's yours [03:22] oh? [03:22] If it doesn't fit the game comp (would be nice for a spare, but...) [03:23] well, thanks :) [03:25] 2X 256 PC2-4200 DDR2 desktops (fit anything that needs little ram?) [03:25] What laptop can use the DDR? [03:25] the grey one my husband was using thursday [03:25] *maybe [03:26] have to check on slots [03:26] It uses WinXP? cpu-z is the tool you need [03:28] yeah, it's somewhere though, not sure where he put it [03:28] I'll dig it out tomorrow [03:30] night everyone [03:30] :-) [03:30] bye dmcglone! [03:30] Cheri703: Mind doing a trade for it/them? [03:31] maybe? [03:31] what did you have in mind? [03:32] have anything you don't need I may find useful? :) [03:32] hmm...will have to poke around [03:33] I do have a few cd-rw drives laying around. a 250w (ish) power supply, have to see what else [03:33] again, the 1G is only if it doesn't fit Zeta (oldish comp that may use SDRAM) [03:34] gotcha [03:34] np [03:34] I'll look around [03:35] anything else you might need? [03:35] hmmmm...will ponder [03:36] I may have a internal USB hub... [03:40] nice [03:40] I have 2 15 (maybe 17?) inch crt monitors :) not that you'd want them [03:47] http://www.laptopmemoryupgrade.com/memory/HewlettPackardOmniBookXE2SeriesMemory.html [03:47] That's what I have used... [03:47] omnibook? [03:47] you have one or? [03:47] I have some laptop ram that wouldn't fit any of the other ones here [03:48] Can't really be upgraded... [03:49] ah [03:51] ok, so dell xps m140 only has one RAM slot and it has 512 already :/ [03:57] I think I found it:http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/hp-omnibook-xe2-c/1707-3121_7-30074921.html [03:59] nice [03:59] Not really.... slower then a turtle on a hot day.... [04:09] Unit193: any non-computer things you might find useful? we have random stuff sometimes. many times someone as been like, "I could really use a ____" and we've happened to have one :) [04:09] OH, also, good battery arrived today [04:10] anything else I should tell friend while I'm at it? [04:12] uhm...no? I will check battery + not-my-charger and see how it does. other option is if you guys (either of you) have a 3 pronged pigtail sitting around (the brick > wall part of an adapter) because I have the ACTUAL charger, but only the brick to computer part :/ [04:12] basically this: http://www.bizrate.com/miscellaneous/oid855531865.html [04:13] I could almost bet you money that I could get one.... [04:14] ok, give me a minute [04:15] ok, yeah, if you can get one, I have the proper dell cord instead of that crappy replacement one [06:28] * Cheri703 is proud of herself :D [06:29] That's most of the time very good, what did you do? [06:30] I set up a headless dual-boot machine :D I can remotely choose which OS I want, then log back into it. [06:30] I may be recruiting your help on putty, I've not used it before, might give it a shot [06:30] I can't get off of it... [06:30] took me FOREVER to get the auto-switch-os thing working (mostly my error >.<) but it works now [06:30] get off of ? [06:31] PuTTY [06:31] ah [06:31] so yeah, I might have you help me out with it :) [06:31] KiTTY is also good... How did you do the remote OS thing? [06:31] Grub? [06:32] well, there's a thing in grub, and I made it into a script, so I can set it to do a one-time boot to the other OS. then it'll boot back to ubuntu [06:32] and I made them both have the same ip, so I can vnc into either with the same settings [06:32] and I can currently ssh into the ubuntu side, but I'd like to ssh into the windows side if possible [06:33] Yes it is [06:33] ok [06:33] sweet :D [06:33] not tonight, but at some point I'm going to consult your putty experience [06:34] CopSSH/cygwin or FreeSSHd for ssh (no X :( ) [06:34] ok, don't tell me tonight! my brain is in weird hyper mode and adding more info at this point won't do me any good :) === locobot_1_2 is now known as locobot_1 [17:07] Holy crap, I haven't been on here in A WHILE [17:08] I'm estimating atleast since Dec 22... [17:08] I haven't been in here since last year [17:10] Anyone around? [17:11] Just logged into my machine at home, fired up the browser, and it still had tabs open from when I was looking up stuff for my last stupid class [17:11] don't you hate that... [17:12] finding browser tabs you left open, while researching crap that pissed you off... [17:12] * Cheri703 is around, sortof [17:13] Hey Cheri703, hows the job hunt going? [17:13] well, it looks like I'm staying, at least for a while. had a discussion with them yesterday, end result will be: actual contractor situation, on-call, more money than last year, so I'm willing to at least see if they can refrain from being insane [17:14] excellent, that's good to hear! [17:15] > willing to at least see if they can refrain from being insane [17:15] more like "more willing to put up with them being insane" [17:16] true [17:16] since nothing mention seems to me like a "we'll be less insane" kind of thing [17:16] s/mention/mentioned/ [17:17] well, having a contract in place and being on-call will be different from "we want you to pay your own taxes but be available/working 40+ hours per week for what would be under minimum wage for a w-2 employee working 40 hours a week" [17:30] ok, yes [17:30] good point [17:32] :) [17:33] we'll see. how much more than last year is still tbd, but I'm holding out for a pretty substantial increase (though still way under what I "should" be making) [17:33] I'm honestly surprised we did alright for 2010...taxes are going to SUCK though :( didn't hold any aside last year [17:51] woo! my little project is coming together! [17:51] * Cheri703 is pleased [17:55] say hello to mandatory quarterly payments [17:55] yeah :/ [17:55] planning on setting aside quite a bit for it this year, and have an accountant doing my taxes this year [18:25] sorry, I got disconnected, I'm reposting my question (with minor typo corrections): I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 on HP Pavilion dv7 and I have ATI Mobility Radeon graphics card. I take it granted that due to driver issues suspend/resume will not work. But I saw that at System76 website they sell Linux laptops with ATI cards and everything works fine. I contacted them and they said suspend/resume issues can be resolved by fiddling with Powe [18:25] rManagement. Is there any expert living in Columbus who can help me fixing this issue? [18:28] kyanardag: just because system76 hw can suspend/resume alright, doesn't guarantee yours will. some hardware just doesn't like it. It isn't necessarily due to ATI [19:04] Woo Android phone [20:32] kyanardag: suspend/resume has more to do with the BIOS than the video card. Try updating the BIOS on your machine and see if that fixes the problem. [20:34] canthus13, as far as I know the BIOS is up to date [20:35] kyanardag: doublecheck anyway. THe main problem with suspend/resume is that most BIOS is a buggy mess of bandaided-together crap that caters to windows. Linux attempts to minimize problems by pretending to be Windows when talking to BIOS. [20:36] Unfortunately, BIOS is closed-source, which means a lot of reverse-engineering and guesswork on the part of the kernel programmers. [20:36] canthus13: can' [20:36] t you use biosdecode? [20:36] To see what version you have [20:36] Unit193: Probably. I've seen some disassembled BIOS code, and it's a scary mess. [20:37] canthus13, i'll check it out again. so, the suspend/resume can not be corrected by a single file hiding in depths of /etc ? [20:37] Oh. that, I dunno. most BIOS shows the version on boot and inside the CMOS setup. [20:38] kyanardag: Depends on what's causing it. It *could*, I suppose.. I"d play around with the power management settings. I wouldn't hold out much hope, though. my wife's dv6227cl hates to suspend, no matter what I try. [20:38] It boots fast enough that she doesn't really care, though. [20:38] biosdecode or dmidecode may work without reboot [20:39] bah. Freaking windows is overriding my desktop control keys. :( [20:41] Whoah. System76 dropped their prices a LOT. my dream laptop is about 1000 bucks cheaper now.. [20:42] my biosdecode and dmidecode results are here: http://pastebin.com/MCYeLi05 [20:43] Looks like F.12 I'd check HP's website and see if there's something newer. [21:03] HP website says completely different BIOS version: [21:03] WinFlash for HP Notebook System BIOS (for Notebooks with Intel Processors) 2010-07-23 , Version:F.42 A [21:53] canthus13, thank you so much, i did the bios update and voila, suspend/resume works perfectly.. if you didn't tell me bios might be the problem, i would be spending hours changing files with no luck.. [22:09] I forgot how awesome openldap can be! [22:17] What are you using it for? [23:16] kyanardag_: Any time. :) [23:17] thafreak: I haven't forgotten how much of a pain in the ass ldap can be. :P [23:17] But yeah, sometimes I miss Active Directory. :) [23:18] I think linux can connect to it... (don't need it for home) [23:18] so...just as a note: I'm soliciting tips/advice/whatever along the lines of either "things to do now to make your next installation easier" OR "tips for multi-booters" [23:18] tip for multi-booters: delete windows. you'll have more hard drive space and less confusion. [23:19] well, yes [23:19] Put windows inside a virtual machine where it can't hurt anything but itself. [23:19] lvm for the win [23:20] Can't really do that if it isn't your computer [23:20] true. [23:20] the one I set up as a dual-boot is WAY too slow for a vm [23:21] all too true... [23:21] I added 256 ram to it, and it's just over 512 >.< [23:22] 2.4 ghz 64 bit processor though...so it has some potential [23:22] The DDR2 one? [23:22] uhm, I dunno? it's the desktop my dad gave me [23:23] Ah, desktop, was thinking laptop... [23:25] anyone try LibreOffice yet? [23:25] no [23:26] 64 bit? Dual core? [23:26] not dual core [23:26] it's an old amd 64 [23:26] And 512MB ram is too little for Vista, 7, or XPSP3. [23:26] Oh. Cool. :) [23:26] yeah, I need moar ram! [23:27] More than enough ram for a web server, though. :) [23:27] canthus13: 512 is fine for XP... [23:28] Not for SP3. [23:28] It drags butt badly. [23:28] for SP2 and earlier it's fine. [23:28] * Cheri703 just pictured a computer doing the doggy butt scoot O.o [23:29] Depends... [23:36] Cheri703: Hehehe. [23:37] Unit193: yes. Any windows machine old enough to come with 512MB should wear depends. [23:39] Funny to watch WinV on a new comp with 512 :D it fails soooo bad... (doesn't MS say you can do it??)