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| charlie-tca | Good morning | 14:38 |
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| charlie-tca | cody-somerville: Can you approve my message sitting in the xubuntu-users mailing list awaiting approval? | 18:26 |
| cody-somerville | sure | 18:28 |
| charlie-tca | mr_pouit: menu still needs work in Natty? Applications -> Science -> gnumeric seems wrong. It is also under office... This is the live cd, too. | 19:19 |
| mr_pouit | not sure. You can report that upstream though | 19:22 |
| charlie-tca | xfce? | 19:22 |
| charlie-tca | no, gnome, right | 19:22 |
| mr_pouit | charlie-tca: no, against garcon on bugzilla.xfcE.org | 19:34 |
| mr_pouit | I don't know why gnumeric is in both, but it shouldn't afaik | 19:34 |
| charlie-tca | really? That's where the menu comes from now? | 19:34 |
| mr_pouit | yeah | 19:34 |
| charlie-tca | I will do that. | 19:34 |
| charlie-tca | Thanks | 19:34 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: FTR, if you're bumping a build-dep, that's not a no-change rebuild | 22:07 |
| mr_pouit | it is, because soyuz doesn't allow binnmus =] | 22:16 |
| mr_pouit | but I've no choice, otherwise on ppc and armel it would pick the old version | 22:17 |
| mr_pouit | but the focus of lp isn't really for ubuntu *developers* anyway =( | 22:18 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: I'm not saying don't rebuild, I'm just saying, you should use dch -i for those, not dch -R and make sure the version is ubuntuX | 22:18 |
| mr_pouit | no, because I want them to be synced | 22:18 |
| mr_pouit | this is a temporary thing, until the buildd lag is solved | 22:19 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: that's an incorrect version then, needing to sync is a different issue | 22:19 |
| mr_pouit | sigh | 22:19 |
| mr_pouit | I made no source change, except the one needed to workaround lp missing features | 22:19 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: I'll be happy to file the sync requests when Debian's ready for xfce 4.8 | 22:19 |
| mr_pouit | it's fine to keep buildX, because it's fine to sync the next revision | 22:20 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: buildX means nothing in the build changed except the changelog | 22:20 |
| mr_pouit | the ones with real source changes have ubuntuX | 22:20 |
| mr_pouit | micahg: buildX means it can be autosynced | 22:20 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: yes, because there were no package changes | 22:21 |
| mr_pouit | and for the buildX I made no packaging change… | 22:21 |
| micahg | bumping a build-dep is a packaging change, I should've mentioned this in -motu so others could agree/disagree | 22:22 |
| mr_pouit | no it's not | 22:23 |
| mr_pouit | it's a workaround for lp uselessness | 22:23 |
| mr_pouit | (it's not a change I want to keep) | 22:24 |
| mr_pouit | give me the gb command like in debian and this change will disappear | 22:24 |
| mr_pouit | but feel free to raise that on -motu if you want | 22:24 |
| * micahg is unfamiliar with gb | 22:24 | |
| mr_pouit | it's to make a give back, and you can specify a minimum b-dep to wait for (e.g. xfce4-panel-dev >= 4.7.7) | 22:27 |
| mr_pouit | lp doesn't allow that, and the only workaround is to change the b-dep in the source… | 22:27 |
| micahg | it's only set up that way since there are no assumed changes in a buildX | 22:31 |
| micahg | oops | 22:31 |
| micahg | sorry | 22:31 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: there is something in ubuntu-archive-tools to give back | 22:32 |
| mr_pouit | is it something like syncpackage, that we're not supposed to use? | 22:36 |
| micahg | no, I think we can use this, it just triggers a retry of whatever you ask for, it has many options | 22:37 |
| micahg | oh, it's in ubuntu-dev-tools, called ubuntu-build | 22:38 |
| mr_pouit | nope, there's no option to do that | 22:44 |
| mr_pouit | retry only works if it previously failed to build (which you can do from the LP ui as well) | 22:44 |
| micahg | right | 22:44 |
| micahg | there's no no source change rebuild en masse option | 22:45 |
| micahg | bug 245594 | 22:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 245594 in Launchpad itself "Rebuilds of binary packages without source changes" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/245594 | 22:46 |
| mr_pouit | opened for more than 2 years | 22:48 |
| mr_pouit | low priority | 22:49 |
| mr_pouit | when I say lp main focus isn't ubuntu developers, nobody believes me ;-) | 22:49 |
| micahg | no, I believe you, but I believe we should try to work within the system while pushing for improvements, we can probably bring this up at the next UDS | 22:50 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: and as I said, I'm happy to help with the grunt work of getting these packages sync'd later | 22:50 |
| mr_pouit | I'm not sure the grunt work will come soon though (it will be uploaded to debian only after squeeze) | 22:52 |
| mr_pouit | but hopefully, it was the last abi break for the panel | 22:52 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: I'm not going anywhere :) | 22:53 |
| * micahg hopes squeeze will be released soon | 22:54 | |
| mr_pouit | and about lp, the most knownledgable motu is wgrant afaik | 22:54 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: he's now paid to hack on it :) | 22:54 |
| mr_pouit | ah, nice (or too bad :p) | 22:54 |
| cody-somerville | mr_pouit, I believe you ;) | 22:55 |
| mr_pouit | considering he added the 3.0 (quilt/native) support by himself ;-) | 22:55 |
| mr_pouit | cody-somerville: huhuhu | 22:55 |
| emgent | cody-somerville: around ? | 23:20 |
| cody-somerville | emgent, yup | 23:20 |
| emgent | can i pm you ? | 23:20 |
| cody-somerville | emgent, yup | 23:20 |
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