[00:36] <agu10> hey
[00:36] <agu10> I want to install Blender latest versino
[00:36] <agu10> 'version
[00:36] <agu10> where can I get that?
[00:51] <tomd> hello, im trying to get two applications (kopete & mjpg-streamer) to listen to the same video device (a webcam) simultaneouslly. What excatly keeps this from happening? Does the kernal lock the video device for the initial application?
[04:26] <pulaski> part
[04:27] <reya276> How can I make Krita look the same visually in Ubuntu as it does in Kubuntu/KDE?
[04:29] <Snowhog> reya276: You should be asking that question in #ubuntu
[04:30] <reya276> ok let me give it a shot
[04:33] <reya276> nope no luck, I got totally ignored
[04:37] <reya276> see this is what it looks like http://img205.imageshack.us/i/ubuntukrita23.png/
[05:00] <echodevnull> anyone here good with the older kde3 servicemenus?
[06:06] <nit-wit> is gparted the partitioner in kubuntu
[06:06] <nit-wit> I know what I'm doing I just haven't used kubuntu help somebody else get setup
[06:07] <nit-wit> *helping
[06:09] <Daskreech> nit-wit: kinda
[06:10] <Daskreech> nit-wit: can you run partitionmanager ?
[06:12] <nit-wit> Daskreech, I'm helping a noob who is all over the place, I'm justtrying to get them a extended witha logical and a swap inside standard stuff
[06:13] <Daskreech> i take it youcan't physically help them anytime soon
[06:14] <nit-wit> Daskreech, IRC #ubungt+1 the natty channel
[06:41] <nit-wit> anybody want to help a person trying to install Natty Kubuntu
[06:42] <OchoZero9> hi, is there a partition manager in the ISO?
[06:42] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, hopefully we can getter done here.
[06:42] <OchoZero9> I'm on try kubuntu mode and I need to set up a partition
[06:42] <OchoZero9> hope so
[06:43] <OchoZero9> can we use a program we can run of a usb?
[06:44] <nit-wit> Back information OchoZero9 just needs a extended and a logical and a swap the logical and the swap in the extended. # primaries at this point, and a unallocated space begging for Kubuntu:)
[06:44] <nit-wit> *3 primaries already
[06:44] <OchoZero9> i dont think i have three primaries
[06:45] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, yeah you do, unless the disk manager was wrong
[06:46] <OchoZero9> it's right, but only the first disk is part of the computer
[06:47] <OchoZero9> everyone is sleeping here
[06:47] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, the kubuntu partitioner will tell us though, yeah sda1 is firmware in a partition sda2 is C and sda3 is the recovery. In linux the Partitions have letters and numbers
[06:48] <rumo> test
[06:48] <nit-wit> rumo, see you loud and clear
[06:48] <OchoZero9> tset
[06:52] <cato37> happy new year. i just upgraded to 10.10. Nice job!
[06:53] <cato37> except for the chrome. chrome looks good on a 1957 Chevy. How do i get the colored icons back like 10.04?
[06:54] <stalcup> chrome is for gnome
[06:54] <stalcup> just say'n
[06:58] <cato37> another problem is with reqonq. when i right click to get the context menu, the menu shows up all clear.
[06:58] <cato37> is there a fix for this?
[06:59] <jhohn>  
[07:00] <cato37> overall, i like the integraton of 10.10. :)
[07:03] <OchoZero9> can i edit a partition form the live cd?
[07:17] <israfil> hallo, ich bekomme beim Kompilieren eines Programmes einen Fehler bzgl. QGLWidget, es ist also nicht bekannt. Was muss ich nachinstallieren?
[07:18] <israfil> hallo, ich bekomme beim Kompilieren eines Programmes einen Fehler bzgl. QGLWidget, es ist also nicht bekannt. Was muss ich nachinstallieren? Ich benutze kubuntu hardy heron
[07:20] <jhohn> israfil:  dies ist ein englischsprachiger Kanal und Doppelpostings sind  auch nicht unbedingt erwünscht
[07:20] <jhohn> israfil: what kind of error message do you get?
[07:21] <israfil> hello, when i try to compile a program i get an error concerning QGLWidget. I use Kubuntu Hardy Heron. What have i to install?
[07:21] <israfil> i get the message that the type of QGLWidget is not known
[07:22] <israfil> i installed all requirements i think
[07:23] <jhohn> what program do you try to compile and pls. post the last part of the output, including the errormessage.
[07:25] <israfil> http://dpaste.com/294406/ , it is the program: http://code.google.com/p/ssl-vision/wiki/RequirementsInstallation
[07:28] <israfil> jhohn: i installed libqt with opengl (dev files) and now it works, thanks. But i have got another error
[08:30] <NeonSaki> http://neonsaki.blogspot.com/
[08:30] <NeonSaki> http://neonsaki.blogspot.com/
[08:31] <NeonSaki> :)
[08:31] <NeonSaki> (:
[08:31] <NeonSaki> :)
[08:35] <NeonSaki> http://neonsaki.blogspot.com/ Hey Guys..
[08:35] <NeonSaki> http://neonsaki.blogspot.com/ Hey Guys..
[08:56] <tobi_> Hey folks, ... I had four great years with KDE, but now the laptop is moving to my mothers and it's going to be WinOS again. When booting from the XP Disc, I'm getting a bluescreen, no chance for a fresh-format... what can I do to deinstall KDE from hand, or change the format into NTFS?! Any guesses?
[08:58] <geekosopher> tobi_: use a livecd to reformat
[09:05] <tobi_> livecd for KDE deinstall? or do you mean the recovery cd for this old windows cd (in case, that is gone for good)
[09:07] <geekosopher> tobi_: boot any ubuntu or kubuntu livecd, and use the partition editor program in it to reformat the disk
[09:08] <tobi_> that could work... thanks a lot! Have a nice day....
[09:08] <tobi_> bye
[09:18] <Fleck> tobi_ i guess the problem is with sata controler ;)
[09:18] <Fleck> check out if you can set SATA to IDE MODE not AHCI
[09:19] <Fleck> or get F6 floppy for your lap
[09:22] <tobi_> tried that F6 befor, but windows couldn't find any SATA or IDE device! Laptop already worked with Win OS...
[09:23] <tobi_> normally the boot cd should work fine, right?
[09:24] <Fleck> nope
[09:24] <Fleck> boot doesnt work fine on newer laps
[09:24] <tobi_> hu?!
[09:24] <Fleck> 80% crash with blue screen :)
[09:24] <tobi_> the laptop is about 4 years old ...
[09:24] <Fleck> so if you can set sata mode to IDE in bios
[09:25] <Fleck> tobi_ well, winxp is 10+ years so :D
[09:25] <tobi_> it is
[09:25] <Fleck> anyway, can you try bios?
[09:26] <tobi_> while booting, yes
[09:26] <tobi_> already got 80% of kubuntu desktop disc by now
[09:27] <Fleck> the thing is - u can partition while in winxp setup...
[09:29] <tobi_> Setup is breaking down at hardware check with bluescreen
[09:31] <tobi_> i cannot join the partition part
[09:31] <tobi_> what shall i do in bios?
[09:36] <tobi_> live cd is burned. Thanks again, bye!
[09:37] <cico> hi!
[10:01] <OchoZero9> how the you start the gui from command line?
[10:01] <rork> OchoZero9: startx
[10:02] <OchoZero9> thank you very much
[10:03] <OchoZero9> I think it froze :(
[10:05] <rork> What do you see?
[10:10] <OchoZero9> rork, i restarted it, now it's stuck at checking battery state
[10:16] <rork> OchoZero9: during boot or when logging in into KDE?
[10:16] <OchoZero9> during boot
[10:17] <kobus> Anybody with experience with the Vodafone USB modem in Kubuntu?
[10:17] <OchoZero9> rork, Pulseaudio configured for per-user sessinos sand disabled: edit /etc/default/saned   * checking battery state
[10:19] <rork> OchoZero9: have you tried multiple times? tried with the battery removed? tried booting into recovery mode?
[10:19] <OchoZero9> I tried multiple times but not with out the battery
[10:19] <OchoZero9> what do i do in recovery?
[10:19] <OchoZero9> I was there to fix packages and it took a long time
[10:19] <kobus> the network manager recognises it as a mobile device, but I can't get it to connect
[10:20] <OchoZero9> when it was done was when i asked how do i get the gui
[10:20] <venkat> Can anyone help me with a problem in perl catalyst?
[10:21] <venkat> Please respond
[10:23] <rork> venkat: 30 seconds is a bi...
[10:24] <kobus> Anybody who can help with a 3g usb modem?
[10:24] <valorie> !ask | venkat
[10:25] <rork> venkat: 30 seconds is a bit fast for a reaction in irc channels, also this isn't the right channel for perl related questions. Maybe try in #perl
[10:25] <OchoZero9> rork, it hangs
[10:25] <OchoZero9> in recovery when i type sudo startx
[10:26] <rork> OchoZero9: ok, can you kill the process or reboot into a commandline? Which packages did you install?
[10:26] <OchoZero9> the scrreen changes to root@ecinc-Thinkpad-x201-tablet:/home/ecinx# and a rectangular shape
[10:27] <OchoZero9> it reacts when i press the power button then it shuts down
[10:28] <OchoZero9> what do i pick in the recovery menu?
[10:29] <OchoZero9> netroot?
[10:29] <rork> yes
[10:29] <OchoZero9> now what do I type?
[10:30] <rork> after that check the logs: ~/.xsession-errors either use `pager ~/.xsession-errors` or `tail -n 20 ~/.xsession-errors` is there anything that looks like that it causes the hanging?
[10:32] <venkat> When I try to run the server in catalyst for my app I get the follwoing error:
[10:32] <venkat> Can't use an undefined value as a HASH reference at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.12.2/Catalyst.pm line 2697.
[10:32] <venkat> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /home/karthik/Documents/ezvidya/script/../lib/Cl.pm line 6.
[10:32] <venkat> Compilation failed in require at cl_server.pl line 55.
[10:32] <venkat> Can anyone help me in resolving the issue
[10:32] <FloodBotK3> venkat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:33] <rork> venkat: ask in #perl please, they can better help you debug your script.
[10:35] <OchoZero9> damn I'm stuck  with a black screen with just whatever i Type
[10:35] <OchoZero9> and before taht i was stuck with > preceding every line, now it doesnt
[10:36] <rork> OchoZero9: but can you use a normal commandline in recovery mode?
[10:37] <OchoZero9> rork, I haven't used any command line apps in kubuntu before :(
[10:38] <OchoZero9> so I woudln't know
[10:38] <OchoZero9> yeah it workss, i typed 'parted'
[10:39] <OchoZero9> I got the same thing i got in the terminal a few hours ago
[10:40] <rork> OchoZero9: ok, now type `tail -n 25 ~/.xsession-errors`, this will print the last 25 lines of that file right?
[10:41] <OchoZero9> i thnk i typed something wrong
[10:41] <OchoZero9> what exactly gets typed?
[10:42] <OchoZero9> `tail -n 25 ~/.xsession-errors`
[10:42] <OchoZero9> I'm stuck in the > prompt ,, how do i leave it
[10:42] <rork> or without `s, both should work fine, control-c
[10:42] <jhohn> n is the number of lines, type tail -25 ...
[10:46] <OchoZero9> Okay here's the error...    Xsession: X session started for root 05:24:25 EST 2011 ^^ Setting IM through im-switch for locale=en_US. ^^ Start IM through /etc/X11/xinit/ximput.d/all_ALL linked to /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/default.  ^^ xterm: fatal IO error 11 (Resource termporaritly unavialable) or KillClient on X server ":0.0"at Wed Jan 5
[10:46] <OchoZero9> that at wed part was before, i accidentally moved it with the palm and the touch pad
[10:48] <kobus> anybody know how to use usb_modeswitch?
[10:51] <silv3r_m00n> I want to install this style >> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=31717
[10:51] <silv3r_m00n> can I get something like a deb file or similar ?
[10:51] <rork> OchoZero9: You mentioned you tried to install something before starting X? what did you install?
[10:52] <OchoZero9> i tried to install stuff when i was in kpackage
[10:53] <OchoZero9> it was a latex ploting program, xournal, and i don't remember what else
[10:53] <OchoZero9> it gave me an error
[10:53] <rork> silv3r_m00n: that theme is for KDE 3.2? Are you using that version?
[10:53] <OchoZero9> then i tried to install kile and some other latex stuff and gimp
[10:54] <silv3r_m00n> I am on kde 4.1
[10:54] <silv3r_m00n> I had that style in 9.10 , but can't see it in 10.04
[10:55] <OchoZero9> if i try to run fail safe X it goes back to the recovery menu
[10:55] <rork> OchoZero9: can you type `sudo apt-get check`, this will check your install for broken dependencies
[10:56] <silv3r_m00n> rork: how do I get it ?
[10:56] <OchoZero9> it said buidling dependency tree, reading state information.. Done  that's it
[10:59] <rork> silv3r_m00n: You can install themes in System Settings > Appearance, I'd suggest you look for a similar them for KDE 4.
[11:00] <silv3r_m00n> I mean I had klearlooks in KDE in ubuntu 9.1
[11:00] <silv3r_m00n> but can't get it in 10.04
[11:08] <rork> OchoZero9: I'm still looking for your problem, finding random bits. Can you type `xhost +` and then `startx` ?
[11:08] <OchoZero9> i looked all over and a lot of people have it with no solution
[11:09] <OchoZero9> xhost: unable to open display
[11:09] <OchoZero9> xhost: unable to open display ""
[11:10] <rork> OchoZero9: I had that when I looked for "Checking battery state", but the battery state is not the problem. It's starting X. I'm now looking for "xterm: fatal IO error 11 (Resource termporaritly unavialable)"
[11:10] <OchoZero9> oh...
[11:10] <OchoZero9> from the error log
[11:12] <OchoZero9> i found something in the oracle forums but it seem chinese to me
[11:12] <OchoZero9> about exportig display
[11:13] <OchoZero9> let me go to the bios and find the sleep stuff
[11:13] <rork> Can you post a link?
[11:14] <OchoZero9> okay let me find it again
[11:14] <OchoZero9> http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?messageID=9210189
[11:15] <OchoZero9> one other weird thing, when i go to net root, it never asked me for name and password
[11:15] <dutch> I got a problem...running kubuntu 10.04..when using thunderbird as a mail client,
[11:16] <dutch> when I click on a link in thunderbird,  the launch application comes up
[11:16] <dutch> how do I get the launch application to open firefox to open the link ??
[11:18] <rork> dutch: you can set the default browser in System Settings > Defaul Applications > Webbrowsers, I'm not sure thunderbird supports that though. If it doesn't check the thunderbird settings if it mentions anything like that.
[11:19] <dutch> rork,  thanks...I'll look into that...
[11:25] <dutch> rork,  that doesn't seem to do the trick,  but I can copy & paste the url into an open browser...not ideal but it works
[11:25] <OchoZero9> should i reinstalll, but instead of kubuntu install ubuntu then downlaod kdesktop?
[11:26] <rork> OchoZero9: I'm afraid I can't help you fix this problem. Keep asking and keep that xsession-errors log ready. Probably someone else can help you.
[11:27] <OchoZero9> thanks
[11:27] <James147> dutch: try system settings > file association .. and edit the entry for html
[11:31] <dutch> James147: ok...I'll try that...thanks
[12:17] <kobus> I'm looking for help with a mobile broadband usb stick...
[12:31] <Xo4u_na_bash> Как вышивать крестиком, ребят?
[12:31] <Xo4u_na_bash> Меня сюда из #php направили
[12:32] <nuno_nunes> hi
[14:01] <Lillian> is this the right place to ask about programs for konversations by chance?
[14:06] <vbgunz> I just installed a new motherboard. hibernate and resume worked perfect on my old motherboard, on the new one, the both resume immediately without ever shutting down... anyone know what could be the issue?
[14:17] <kyle_> help]
[14:17] <kyle_> help
[14:28] <johann_> what are you talking about?
[14:29] <vbgunz> post 35 here I believe may have fixed my suspend issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/522998
[14:30] <vbgunz> for the first time on this board, I was able to sleep and hibernate, so far so good
[14:31] <johann_> I'm the first time on this board
[14:39] <johann_> I can't understand this bug, my pc is LENOVO Y450,but there is no
[14:59] <kobus> anybody that can help me with usb_modeswitch?
[15:07] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[15:31] <Mausschubser> hello I am on 10.10
[15:31] <Mausschubser> and I have a package dependency problem
[15:31] <Mausschubser> because of that my system doesn't boot any more
[15:32] <Mausschubser> I have to get rid of lib32stdc++5
[15:32] <Mausschubser> sorry, I have to install it
[15:33] <chuckf> when you say it doesn't boot does it not get to gui or not boot to even grub?
[15:33] <Mausschubser> but it doesn't
[15:33] <Mausschubser> it gets to the gui
[15:33] <Mausschubser> it shows 10.10 and underneath you can see these points flashing
[15:33] <Mausschubser> you know what I mean?
[15:33] <chuckf> I know what you mean there
[15:34] <chuckf> that's not the gui though
[15:34] <chuckf> the gui would be the login screen
[15:34] <Mausschubser> so what do you call it then?
[15:34] <Mausschubser> ok
[15:34] <chuckf> that would be the bootsplash
[15:34] <Mausschubser> thanks
[15:35] <chuckf> np
[15:35] <Mausschubser> this bootsplash disappears when you hit a button on the keyboard and there it showed me an error
[15:35] <Mausschubser> HDIO-GET-IDENTITY failed for /dev/sda
[15:36] <Mausschubser> and kdm isn't even installed any more
[15:36] <James147> Mausschubser: try booting to recovery mode (hold shift during boot to get the grub menu to appear)
[15:36] <Mausschubser> James147: I already did that. whats step 2?
[15:37] <James147> Mausschubser: first, try installing "kubuntu-desktop" it should pullin anything your missing thats needed
[15:37] <Mausschubser> yes, I already tried that, too
[15:38] <Mausschubser> but then it always  says that there ist this xxx package dependency
[15:38] <Mausschubser> either I install lib32stdc++5
[15:38] <Mausschubser> or I delete ia32-libs
[15:39] <Mausschubser> -f didn't help
[15:39] <James147> Mausschubser: and what error do you get then you try either of them ^^
[15:40] <Mausschubser> installing isn't possible
[15:40] <James147> Mausschubser: why not?
[15:41] <Mausschubser> James147:  it's all german
[15:41] <Mausschubser> one moment
[15:41] <amichair> sometimes after a reboot the network fails to work. I've narrowed it down to having to open guarddog and pressing apply to fix things, e.g. the firewall is getting messed up (only sometimes). What can be causing this?
[15:42] <James147> !firewall
[15:43] <kb3ien> i seem to have built vbox 3.2.12 OSE, but i'm not finding any means to INSTALL it. with hardening disabled some features work from the build dir, is there an install script?
[15:44] <Mausschubser> James147:  at first it downloads the package, tries to unpack it... then it tries to overwrite the elder libstdc++ but then the sub process was killed
[15:44] <amichair> James147: I know, I already use guarddog... the question is why does it sometimes work, and sometimes not, after a reboot
[15:44] <Mausschubser> it says something about a broken pipe
[15:45] <James147> amichair: sorry :) dont know that much about firewalls ^^
[15:46] <Mausschubser> James147:  that's all info
[15:46] <luciano> ciao
[15:46] <Mausschubser> ciao
[15:46] <luciano> !list
[15:47] <kb3ien> I removed some symlinks left by vbox4.0.1 and am re running kmk all, but kmk install seems to have no effect either.
[15:50] <Mausschubser> James147:  I have a separate /home partition. When I reinstall my data won' t be lost, right?
[15:50] <James147> Mausschubser: as long as you do not formate the partition that /home is on the installer will not delete anything inside it
[15:51] <Mausschubser> seems like the best solution, don't you think?
[15:51] <James147> Mausschubser: note that its is still best to do a backup of anything important anyway, just incase :)
[15:51] <Mausschubser> now a backup?
[15:51] <James147> Mausschubser: its certenly `a` solution :)
[15:52] <Mausschubser> I don't have a clue how to
[15:52] <serenity> hi
[15:52] <Mausschubser> hallo
[15:52] <serenity> does anyone of you know if there is already a ppa for digikam 2.0 beta?
[15:53] <kb3ien> anyone else had to uninstall vbox 4?
[15:53] <kb3ien> its messing up vbox3 afaict
[15:53] <Mausschubser> afaict? what does that mean? as far as I ...
[15:55] <kb3ien> ... can tell ?
[15:56] <Mausschubser> kb3ien: ah thanks, I am German
[15:57] <kb3ien> no worries.
[15:57] <israfil> hello, i have a nvidia driver and a notebook from samsung. I have the laptop-mode-tools enabled. But my screen is dark. I tried to edit the "/sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/max_brightness" but i have no permission (even as root!). There is a "7" as the value, i want to chane it to "100". WHat can i do?
[15:57] <Mausschubser> israfil, auf englisch heißt des laptop ;-)
[15:58] <James147> israfil: how did you try to edit that file?
[15:58] <James147> israfil: also, does the battery widget not let you adjust the brightness?
[15:59] <israfil> james14/: i tried as as sudo
[15:59] <kb3ien> what are the files permissions?
[16:00] <James147> israfil: but how as sudo? what was the full command?
[16:00] <israfil> the widget from hardy does not edit anything if i turn the brightness in its gui!
[16:02] <israfil> the file has the permissions: http://dpaste.com/294518/
[16:02] <israfil> sudo kate /sys/.../brightness
[16:02] <israfil> james147: ... is the command
[16:02] <James147> ^^ DONT use sudo to open kate
[16:03] <James147> use kdesudo to open gui applicaitons
[16:03] <kb3ien> i'm a big fan of sudo bash; then vi ...
[16:03] <James147> (not that it will help, its just that "sudo kate" has been known to stop you loggin in)
[16:04] <James147> kb3ien: either "sudo vi" or "sudo nano" or "kdesudo kate"  to edit a file as root, never do "sudo kate"
[16:05] <James147> kb3ien: but anyway, are you sure its "max_brightness" you need to edit?
[16:06] <israfil> can you tell me the full command? kdesudo ... /sys/...max_brightness? what have i to type for "..."?
[16:08] <James147> israfil: "kdesudo kate /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness" would be my guess
[16:11] <israfil> james147: i cannot edit it because of these rights:
[16:11] <israfil>  anything if i turn the brightness in its gui!
[16:11] <israfil> [17:02] <israfil> the file has the permissions: http://dpaste.com/294518/
[16:12] <James147> israfil: as root? the brightness (NOT max_brightness) file is writable by root ^^
[16:15] <kb3ien> wow okay. i've removed the last of vbox4, now vbox 3.2.12 is missing the VNC options too....
[16:16] <kb3ien> i'm thinking that i can fix that in configure...
[16:17] <James147> israfil: this works for me to set the brightness to maximum:   sudo sh -c "cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/max_brightness > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness"
[16:18] <israfil> james147: if i do that nothing happens
[16:18] <israfil> have i to to anything else?
[16:19] <James147> israfil: i dident ^^ but then i can control my brightness form the battery widget :S
[16:20] <israfil> the battery widget does not do anything? if i shift it nothing happens
[16:21] <James147> israfil: what version of kubuntu are you running?
[16:22] <israfil> i run 2.6.24-23
[16:22] <israfil> by the way, i updated kubuntu and the linux.image.generic was installed but i do not see it in the GRUB menu, why?
[16:26] <amichair> is anyone here good with iptables and startup scripts?
[16:42] <rork> israfil: was grub updated after installing the new kernel?
[16:43] <israfil> rork: i don't know
[16:43] <israfil> have i to update it?
[16:43] <fanti> hello! i'm using ait's fglrx driver with kubuntu. 3d acceleration works fine but desktop effekts/compositing doesn't work at all :-(
[16:43] <simo163> hi every one!!
[16:44] <rork> israfil: you can update it with `sudo update-grub`, that should add the new kernel to the options
[16:44] <rork> hi simo163
[16:45] <israfil> rork: but i have to update grub in lucid lynx right? i have lucid installed, too and use its grub and not grub from hardy
[16:45] <simo163> hi rork.. this chat is general or specific?
[16:45] <rork> israfil: yes, in that case you have to update it in lucid
[16:45] <israfil> ok thanks
[16:46] <rork> simo163: this is a kubuntu support channel so specific, for general chat we have #kubuntu-offtopic
[16:47] <simo163> by the way, just created a lisp page fb; its about lisp and artificial intelegence http://www.facebook.com/pages/Lisp/170016599698767?ref=ts
[16:49] <simo163> just join us.. hope it's useful for lisp fans
[16:50] <simo163> rork amm so it s just about ubuntu question
[16:50] <simo163> or also about programming?
[16:51] <James147> simo163: its the kubuntu support channel :) there are many programming channels around as well though
[16:51] <JeroenDeDauw> I'm not able to update or install (or even remove) anything anymore on my Kubuntu 10.10 due to some lame conflict between pidgin and pidgin-facebookchat. This is the crap I get: http://dpaste.org/IGRO/ How to fix this?
[16:52] <simo163> james147 where? :)
[16:53] <James147> simo163: depends on what language ...
[16:53] <simo163> lisp for example
[16:53] <James147> simo163: #lisp ..probally :)
[16:53] <yofel> JeroenDeDauw: remove piding-facebookchat, known issue with pidgin 2.7.9 and facebookchat
[16:54] <simo163> in my windows just have the nicks list in the right and All chat in the left
[16:54] <simo163> actually no more things :)
[16:54] <simo163> amm
[16:54] <simo163> nop just lisp hehe
[16:54] <JeroenDeDauw> yofel: well, how do I remove it? apt-get remove clearly doesn't work :)
[16:54] <James147> simo163: type /join #list    to join it
[16:54] <yofel> JeroenDeDauw: 'sudo dpkg -r pidgin-facebookchat' or you could force overwrite the file with 'sudo dpkg --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/pidgin-data_1%3a2.7.9-1ubuntu0+pidgin1.10.10_all.deb'
[16:55] <yofel> er, '-i --force-overwrite' for the second part
[16:55] <simo163> do u mean lisp right
[16:55] <James147> JeroenDeDauw: try "sudo dpkg -r <packagename>"
[16:56] <JeroenDeDauw> yofel: James147: "sudo dpkg -r pidgin-facebookchat" appears to have worked, thanks! :)
[16:56] <yofel> lp 697097 by the way
[16:56] <simo163> so yes james147 that's cool
[16:57] <James147> simo163: yeah :)
[16:57] <simo163> how can i know the chanels exists ?
[16:57]  * James147 tends to just join them and see :) 
[16:58] <simo163> amm that magic
[16:58] <simo163> no its logic :)
[16:59] <James147> simo163: freennode had ALLOT of channels ^^ its hard to list them all, most folow logical names usually after the language/program/topic you are intrested in :)
[16:59] <James147> simo163: /list will list them.... but it could take awhile ;)
[17:02] <simo163> nothing happened i think it still thinking i dont know
[17:14] <jaafar> Is there a good reason why I have 132 bug fix updates today? (lucid)
[17:16] <James147> jaafar: have you upgated in a while? what updates are they for (in general)?
[17:17] <jaafar> james147: I update all the time but this one seems unusual.  it's all over the map, mostly KDE stuff, comments of the two I sampled refer to upstream syncing
[17:17] <jaafar> just want to make sure I'm not getting hacked or something
[17:17] <BluesKaj> jaafar, any ppas in the repos ?
[17:19] <BluesKaj> did you add any ppas to your package manager or sources.liist, jaafar
[17:20] <yofel> BluesKaj, jaafar: KDE 4.4.5 was released into lucid-updates yesterday, blame that
[17:20] <BluesKaj> yofel, aha ..ok
[17:20] <James147> jaafar: quite often if one kde package upgrades, you get allot of others upgraded as well... thats most likly what happened if they are mostly kde packages
[17:22] <i2> Hello, can you help me please? http://paste.ubuntu.com/550740/
[17:25] <James147> i2: does /usr/sbin/laptop_mode exist? and is laptop-mode-tools installed?
[17:26] <i2> James147: yes to both !
[17:27] <jaafar> yofel: thanks, that makes sense
[17:33] <rjwiii> Hello ... I installed Evolution via the package installer and it seem not to have installed the help file for it. Do I have to install this seperatly?
[17:35] <BluesKaj> rjwiii, in the terminal: man evolution  , and you really should ask in #ubuntu for gnome apps
[17:36] <BluesKaj> rjwiii, kubuntu uses kde
[17:36] <DarthFrog> rjwiii:  Also, "apt-cache search evolution" will tell you what packages are available for evolution.
[17:37] <James147> ^^ or searching for evolution in kpackagekit should get a similar list :)
[17:37] <DarthFrog> James147:  What's kpackagekit?  :-)
[17:38]  * James147 suggests makeing sure evolution-common is installed, the evolution-doc* packages seems to point to that one
[17:38] <israfil> join #ubuntu
[17:42] <DarthFrog> israfil:  it's "/join"
[17:49] <ramesh> needs to start dhclient manually
[17:50] <israfil> hello, i have got a problem. I did "sudo update.grub" and now i can not log on to the new kernel. I have Ubuntu Lucid and Kubuntu Hardy Heron. Hardy Herons Kernel was updated and i cannot log in there.
[17:51] <israfil> it is only shown the screen where it says "Running local boot scripts [etc]"
[18:03] <danub> hey all. are the repos for kubuntu the same as ubuntu?
[18:03] <rork> danub: yes
[18:04] <danub> ok, next question, how can I make kdm the primary desktop manager instead of gnome? I tried setting it as KDE in the login screen but its still the gnome version with the option to change to gnome, failsafe, kde, and fluxbox
[18:06] <rork> danub: `sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm` should do the job
[18:07] <danub> ok, thank you :D
[18:11] <danub> another question concerning wallets. On my gnome side, my network automatically logs in to the wireless, on the KDE side, it asks to open my wallet before it will connect. how can I change that behavior to just allow it to connect?
[18:12] <agu10^> yes me too
[18:12] <agu10^> how do I leave my wallet open?
[18:13] <agu10^> I want kubuntu to be able to steal from my wallet
[18:13] <agu10^> :@
[18:13] <iconmefisto> disable kdewallet
[18:13] <agu10^> every time I connect to WIFI, the freaking wallet asks for permission
[18:13] <agu10^> I don't want to disable the wallet, but I don't want it to ask me every time
[18:14] <agu10^> I already gave it to it!
[18:14] <rork> you can also set a blank password for your wallet
[18:14] <James147> danub: agu10^: you can configure network manager to store the passkeys in an unencrypted file
[18:14] <danub> how do we go about doing either of those?
[18:15] <James147> ^^ that is safer then using an unencrypted wallet :)
[18:15] <agu10^> uh
[18:15] <agu10^> how do I do that?
[18:15] <iconmefisto> agu10^: knetworkmanager
[18:16] <James147> danub: network widget > manage connections > Other
[18:16] <agu10^> iconmefisto, I don't understand. try to make a full sentence
[18:17] <danub> ok, done. thank you :D
[18:17] <iconmefisto> agu10^: type alt+F2 and type knetworkmanager
[18:17] <danub> i turned off the wallet and sotred in plain file
[18:17] <James147> iconmefisto: ^^ kubuntu 10.10 uses the network widget by default (afaik) and removed knetworkmanager
[18:17] <danub> so i should be good now
[18:18] <agu10^> iconmefisto, it doesn't find anything
[18:18] <iconmefisto> agu10^: see what James147 just said
[18:18] <agu10^> ok, then what should I do?
[18:19] <James147> agu10^: see my comment above to danub
[18:19] <agu10^> to make it not ask the password when I turn the computer on
[18:19] <agu10^> James147, I did.
[18:19] <agu10^> it uses the network widget instead of knetworkmanager
[18:19] <agu10^> so what?
[18:20] <James147> agu10^:  network widget > manage connections > Other ...
[18:20] <agu10^> James147, ok, thanks
[18:20] <danub> agu10^: or disable it by going to settings -> system settings -> advanced -> kwallet -> uncheck "use kwallet"
[18:20] <agu10^> no
[18:23] <James147> danub: ^^ what will disable all password managment, so you have to remember the password for everyting else...
[18:23] <James147> best option is to tell network manager to use an unencrypted file and leave kwallet enabled
[18:23] <agu10^> yes
[18:24] <danub> I dont store passwords so that is fine by me :D
[18:27] <danub> another thing i need to change is the mouse gestures. I have a touchpad and it does random actions when im moving the mouse
[18:28] <James147> !touchpad
[18:28] <danub> there, think i got that squared away now
[18:28] <danub> yep :D much better
[18:29] <danub> ok, one more thing lol. How can i set hotkeys to open a terminal?
[18:30] <danub> i went looking thru te keyboard options but I dont see a terminal shortcut option
[18:30] <James147> danub: right click kmenu > edit menu > find the application > advanced
[18:30] <agu10^> is there any standard terminal shortcut?
[18:30] <agu10^> if I don't make my own, is there any?
[18:31] <James147> ^^ that way you can set a shotcut for any application, not just the terminal :)
[18:31] <James147> agu10^: not any standard ones, but its not hard to configure one
[18:31] <danub> ahh, sweet :D
[18:31] <danub> didn't know how to do that in kde. I like that better then the gnome way
[18:31] <agu10^> James147, seems odd, why would there not be a standard terminal shortcut?
[18:32] <agu10^> people don't use the console?
[18:32] <danub> bloody marvelous
[18:32] <James147> ^^ lota people do, although with krunner and the start menu, its not that hard to launch konsole :) its also very easy to set up a shotcut key
[18:33] <James147> but I dont know why there isent a default key (dont think any application has one to be honest)
[18:33] <agu10^> is there any way to open the start menu with a shortcut?
[18:33] <James147> agu10^: "kmenuedit" is the program
[18:33] <agu10^> ?
[18:33] <danub> do what he said for me
[18:33] <James147> agu10^: wait sorry :p, alt + f1 is the default
[18:33] <agu10^> I press the 'super' key and nothing :(
[18:34] <DarthFrog> If you have yakuake set to run upon startup, a console is only a F12 keypress away.
[18:34] <agu10^> cool!
[18:34] <danub> DarthFrog: now that i have a shortcut key set, im only a ctrl+t away
[18:34] <danub> :P
[18:34] <DarthFrog> danub: :-)
[18:35] <James147> agu10^: the meta key (the win key) is a modifier key in linux... it behaves like alt and crtl, so programs wont respond to just pressing it normally
[18:35] <James147> think there is a way to configre that but I do not know how
[18:38] <iconmefisto> you need to set the key to something else, with xmodmap
[18:39] <agu10^> hey
[18:39] <agu10^> is there something like after effects for linux?
[18:40] <James147> after effects?
[18:41] <iconmefisto> video editing?
[18:41] <iconmefisto> kdenlive is not bad
[18:46] <agu10^> what does non-linear animation mean?
[18:47] <DarthFrog> Running around in circles.
[18:47] <iconmefisto> lol
[18:52] <agu10^> ?
[19:33] <Guest37586> Hi. How to set disc write speed for k3b?
[19:34]  * James147 think s its one of the options when you go to burn a disk
[19:34] <Guest37586> it ignores the option
[19:34] <James147> it does?
[19:34] <Guest37586> I do not want to write on max speed
[19:35] <Guest37586> yes. I specify 8x manually, but it writes on 16x anyway
[19:35] <James147> it never use to ignore that option for me :S
[19:35] <iconmefisto> how can you tell it ignores it?
[19:36] <Guest37586> It is displayed before writing: Starting at 16x or somesthing like this
[19:39] <danub> back again. How can I turn off the startup sound?
[19:39] <James147> danub: system settings > nofifications
[19:39] <James147> notifications ^^
[19:40] <danub> thats what I thought, but its not listed under the applications
[19:40] <sourcemaker_> how can I configure gpg... at the moment it does not work because of some errors related to the gpg service...
[19:40] <danub> lol nevermind
[19:40] <danub> im just blind ;P
[19:40] <James147> danub: "kde workspace" under the even source
[19:40] <danub> i was looking for "startup" not, KDE system notifications
[19:42] <danub> marvelous. by the time I leave work today, my KDE should be nice and pretty for me :D
[19:42] <Guest37586> so, no ideas about k3b write speed? Google has found a bunch of references to similar k3b bugreports since 2004
[19:42] <danub> Guest37586: i just got here. what was your question?
[19:43] <Guest37586> k3b ignores manually entered write speed option
[19:43] <Guest37586> it offer only 16x and ignores if I type 8x there
[19:43] <Guest37586> and writes at 16x finally
[19:44] <Guest37586> DVD+R blank discs
[19:44] <danub> hmm, i got nothing. I only have a netbook and no dvd/cd-rom
[19:44] <danub> lol sorry :(
[19:45] <danub> lemme see what i can come up with real quick
[19:48] <Guest37586> Ok. Another question: Why kscreenlocker is not accepting _RIGHT_ password?
[19:49] <Guest37586> It has stopped working after it crashed one day
[19:51] <Guest37586> How to fix it?
[19:52] <James147> Guest37586: try creating a new user and see if it works for them :)
[19:53] <Guest37586> Good advice, thank you. I will try. If it will work for the new user, then what to do next?
[19:53] <iconmefisto> Guest37586: in k3b, have you tried choosing a burn program to see if it burns slower? maybe growisofs?
[19:53] <James147> Guest37586: try renaming kscreensavers settings (probally in ~/.kde/share/config somewhere)
[19:54] <rtdos> my webhost uses cpanel, is there a file manager that i can use to copy files from my local machine to my website?
[19:55] <Guest37586> James147: thank you.
[19:55] <iconmefisto> rtdos: dolphin can do ftp if that's what you mean
[20:00] <rtdos> ok i will try that iconmefisto
[20:05] <k0s> hi
[20:31] <shane4ubuntu> any networking people in here?
[20:31] <James147> !ask | shane4ubuntu
[20:32] <shane4ubuntu> I traditionally hate network-manager, and ALWAYS use wicd.  However with the change of desktop I thought I would give network-manager a chance,  how do I specify my ip?  and how do I get it to show that I'm connected in the system tray?
[20:34] <shane4ubuntu> I mean, really it shouldn't be that difficult to specify a static ip address right?
[20:36] <James147> shane4ubuntu: should be ableto do all that from the network widget
[20:36] <shane4ubuntu> network widget?  I must be missing that.
[20:36] <James147> shane4ubuntu: if its not there add the widget to the system tray (right click the systray > configer systray ... ) or teh panel
[20:37] <James147> shane4ubuntu: if you cant find it then see if you have plasma-widget-networkmanagement installed
[20:38] <shane4ubuntu> James147: I checked that first ;) it is installed, and added it to the panel, tinkering now
[20:39] <shane4ubuntu1> James147: simple enough, I had setup a connection in the System Settings Network thing, but was having trouble figuring out how to use it.
[20:39] <shane4ubuntu1> James147: thanks!  That did it.
[20:52] <shane4ubuntu> James ok, that worked
[20:52] <shane4ubuntu> James147: ^^^
[20:53] <shane4ubuntu> James147: thanks.
[20:53] <James147> good :)
[20:59] <shane4ubuntu> ok, probably another simple problem due to my ignorance of kde desktop, I installed Google-Desktop search thing, and the icon shows up in the system tray, when I right click on it and select preferences, or index status it never brings anything up??  Any ideas??
[21:00] <James147> shane4ubuntu: to remove it? or get it working?
[21:00] <shane4ubuntu> James147: get it working, or so I can see what the progress is
[21:01] <James147> shane4ubuntu: sorry, dont know anything about it... all i know is it is ment to be a desktop indexer? ... if so why do you need it, nepomuk/strigi does that
[21:02] <shane4ubuntu> James147: because strigi never runs longer than about 1hour on my computer and crashes. :(
[21:02]  * James147 notes that nepomuk/strigi is much better intergrated into kde
[21:02] <James147> shane4ubuntu: hmm, what version of kde?
[21:02] <shane4ubuntu> I would rather use strigi, but strigi doesn't like me.
[21:03] <iconmefisto> shane4ubuntu: does it find anything if you search? (google desktop)
[21:03] <shane4ubuntu> 4.5.4
[21:03] <yofel> me neither, nepomuk has become a real resource hog in 4.6 :/
[21:03] <shane4ubuntu> iconmefisto: well, I can't seem to figure out how to search the desktop
[21:04] <iconmefisto> shane4ubuntu: I think there is a keyboard shortcut. alt+spacebar maybe?
[21:04] <shane4ubuntu> iconmefisto: oh, you mean strigi?
[21:04]  * James147 thinks strigi it slowly improving... and hope that by 4.6 release it wont be such a pain :p
[21:04] <iconmefisto> shane4ubuntu: no, google desktop
[21:04] <shane4ubuntu> no alt-space does nothing
[21:05] <shane4ubuntu> iconmefisto: so it is installed, but seems odd that nothing is working correctly with it.
[21:05] <yofel> James147: so far in 4.6 strigi continues to index while on battery for me, and nepomukfilewatch uses an insane amount of disk I/O after login for like 20mins :S - I hope rc2 will be better
[21:06] <James147> yofel: have noticed it rev up my cpu a few times, but not normally all that often, only needed to kill it once so far when it ppeared to eat up my memory :S
[21:06]  * James147 hopes rc2 will improve things as well 
[21:07] <iconmefisto> shane4ubuntu: double-click the systray icon
[21:08] <shane4ubuntu> iconmefisto: Ohh, a search box!  now we are getting somewhere, I just had a thought, it is probably the config files in ~/.google that are a problem from when I had it installed before, the config was probably different since I had Gnome then!
[21:08] <rick___> de.newusers.infos
[21:09] <rick___> kde
[21:09] <James147> shane4ubuntu: gnome/kde shouldnt make any difference to the config files of a thrid part app... shouldnt... but then again google do some weird stuff with their apps
[21:10] <James147> shane4ubuntu: though, that dosent mean something else mucked them up ;)
[21:10] <shane4ubuntu> James147: well, it is just odd because it has always worked well for me
[21:10] <yofel> wtf... just wondered why strigi isn't even running and found this in .xsession-errors o.O http://paste.ubuntu.com/550811/
[21:10] <James147> didnt muck them up ^^
[21:12] <shane4ubuntu> thanks iconmefisto at least it does a search
[21:15] <shane4ubuntu> hmm, well moving that folder didn't help much, is there any other indexing options I have for KDE?  every time I try to file a bug on strigi it says not enough info.
[21:21] <rork> shane4ubuntu: did you install the debug symbols?
[21:22] <shane4ubuntu> rork: yep, I told it to install all the extra stuff it needed to file reports
[21:22] <rork> ok
[21:22] <rork> not much more you can do then I guess :(
[21:33] <Bauldrick> if I'm running irssi on a server is there anything I can connect to it with through kubuntu (asides ssh)
[21:35] <yofel> hm, I only know irssi in combination with screen and ssh (using yakuake as a terminal is nice in that case) - how about trying quassel as core/client?
[21:38] <otta> nabend
[21:48] <otta> anyone successfully installed ait x1950pro with 3d accl?
[21:54] <ajusdMT> Good afternoon folks. I have a question that I'm hoping has an easy answer... Using KDE's network manager, is there a way I can setup a wireless connection, and then hide the password so that others cannot see it? If I use the wallet, it blocks others from opening the configuration window, but then they can't initiate the wireless connection either. Anyone have thoughts or suggestions? Thanks.
[21:57] <Tm_T> ajusdMT: set it to be system connection
[21:57] <Tm_T> this way the password is saved system-wide but not shown to the user
[21:57] <ajusdMT> Excellent, thank you much for the advice. will give that a whirl
[22:01] <ajusdMT> Odd. The "System connection" option is greyed out. I'm using Kubuntu 10.10. Is there something else I need to look at or have installed? Thanks again.
[22:12] <Fleck> anybody can help with multicast routing?
[22:39] <pulaski> Hi, I currently run kubuntu 10.04 LTS lucid lynx under KDE 4.5.3 on an amd 64 box. Playing CDs with differant audio player software is problematic, especially with KsCD and amarok 4.3.2. Does anyone know if the new amarok 2.4 beta or any audo player software for that matter has improved to the point where I can actually play audio CDs with my an amd 64 box under kubuntu 10.10?
[23:10] <Res_> Buen año a todos, como agrego en ubuntu 10.10 en el xorg que tengo un monitor LCD Samsung p2350
[23:11] <Res_> lo tengo abierto
[23:44] <tony__> i'm using realtek spdif out. should i normally have to find a driver or does it work for most people? it's not showing up