[00:06] <philip__> my apologies, but I need to elevate to tech support level 2 (or max level). #ubuntu level 1 support couldn't do it :-)
[00:07] <philip__> I want to install maverick onto a RAID1 array. I followed the Software RAID guide, but after creating the array, the installer says there's no / partition to install to. Any ideas?
[00:07] <Daekdroom> But.. but.. this is not the channel for maverick!
[00:08] <philip__> yeah I know. I'm just waiting for the kick/ban
[00:51] <wrst> anyone else having trouble with natty booting since the -11 kernel?
[01:06] <coz_> hey all
[01:12] <wrst> hi coz_
[01:13] <coz_> wrst,   hey guy
[01:14] <wrst> coz_: have you had any trouble with natty not booting?
[01:15] <coz_> wrst,   yes   just recently
[01:15] <wrst> me too is there a bug report on that?
[01:15] <coz_> wrst,    are you getting   monitor out of range issues  by chance?
[01:15] <wrst> i had it when i updated to the -11 kernel and tried a fresh install no better
[01:15] <wrst> i don't know what i'm getting i think kernel panic
[01:15] <wrst> i haven't messed with it much
[01:16] <coz_> wrst,    well its broken as far as I know...at least the video part
[01:16] <coz_> xserver video input
[01:16] <wrst> i did a fresh install earlier in the week, and rebooted fine updated and no boot
[01:17] <coz_> wrst,  right  I did about the same... I have a daily  build from about 2 weeks ago which installs and runs just fine...however with an update it fails at boot
[01:17] <wrst> yeah sounds like what i have, i haven't found a bug report on that but lots of stuff to filter through
[01:18] <wrst> coz_: glad to know i'm not alone :)
[01:18] <coz_> wrst,  you might find some of them under   a bug containing  monitor out of range issues
[01:18] <coz_> or    natty will not boot after updates
[01:19] <coz_> bug   natty wont boot after updates
[01:19] <wrst> ok will check that out but its known so that's good probably don't need more clutter from me
[01:19] <coz_> wrst,   yeah I went back to lucid on one machine and maverick on this one
[01:20] <wrst> i have 10.10 on this machine and arch and a small partition with natty
[01:20] <coz_> wrst,   natty is fine as long as it is classic gnome  I really dont like the netbood  session at all
[01:21] <wrst> i'm going to give it a fair chance as it is early on but that's a huge change coz_
[01:22] <coz_> wrst,   yeah of course... for me   global menu on a dual monitor setup is nearly useless... traveling all the way over to primary monitor for an application on secondary monitor to access  File Edit View menus  ,,, not a good design for dual monitors and efficiency :)
[01:23] <wrst> yeah i haven't tried it on dual monitors yet.. is that how osx does it also on dual monitors coz_ ?
[01:23] <coz_> wrst,  yes   and I have macs and dont use them with dual monitor for that reason... a global menu is not efficient for that situation
[01:24] <coz_> well they are actually old macs now  but still ...
[01:31] <wrst> yeah still the same thing
[02:46] <OchoZero9> how should i go about installing kubuntu? if i don't have a flash drive or cd drive
[02:46] <dan2> hey guys
[02:46] <Philo> Will 11.04 have Gnome 3?
[02:46] <dan2> I did a dist upgrade today or something and now I can't boot
[02:46] <OchoZero9> i have multiple laptops with windows 7, and an external hard drive
[02:46] <dan2> it's hung on init
[02:46] <dan2> not kernel issue
[02:47] <dan2> the last 3 messages I see are: init: bridge-network-interface (lo) pre-start process terminated with status 127...
[02:47] <dan2> one for each ethernet card
[02:47] <dan2> any ideas guys?
[02:53] <OchoZero9> how do i make the USB ddrive bootable?
[03:12] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, wha is on the HD now
[03:12] <nit-wit> *what
[03:16] <OchoZero9> just the iso, and the contents of the iso from unetbootin
[03:23] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, use the tab key to auto complete the nick of who you reply to so it shows who your talking:)  what is the partition on the HD and how large is it.
[03:24] <nit-wit> *to
[03:25] <OchoZero9> nit-wit, sorry I thought you where here. The parition on the external is 3.5gb
[03:25] <OchoZero9> I'm going to install it to a 250gb HDD with about 85gb for ubuntu
[03:26] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, thanks what type is the partition and do you have the usb set first to be read in the bios
[03:27] <OchoZero9> I have HDD to be read first in bios
[03:27] <OchoZero9> but I press the blue button and can temporarily chose where I want to boot from
[03:27] <OchoZero9> HDD eNet USB HDD
[03:27] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, how did you build this partion?
[03:28] <OchoZero9> nit-wit, windows disk management. I shrunk it to 3.5 and made it fat 32
[03:29] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, so it is at the front of the disc the first partition
[03:29] <OchoZero9> yeah
[03:29] <OchoZero9> let me check
[03:30] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, take a screen shot and imagrbin it if you can
[03:30] <nit-wit> *image
[03:30] <OchoZero9> yes it  says new voluem (D:) 3.42 gb fat32 healthy primary partitiion and
[03:30] <OchoZero9> 52. unalocated
[03:30] <OchoZero9> okay let me sign on to irc on that computer
[03:30] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, cool
[03:32] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, so this blue button is what?
[03:34] <OchoZero9> imagebin.org/131035
[03:34] <OchoZero9> nit-wit, thinkvantage button. it's like pressing f10 for bios and stuff
[03:35] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, okay thanks on the button paste the image bin again the link isn't working
[03:36] <OchoZero9_> http://imagebin.org/131035
[03:37] <nit-wit> cool I typed as well and got there hold on.
[03:37] <OchoZero9> ive been trying to install this since this morning
[03:38] <OchoZero9> with the excemption of a 3 horu nap and watching tv at the same time
[03:38] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, so what happens now when you try to run it
[03:39] <OchoZero9> run what? sorry
[03:40] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, you have the hd loaded it sounds like you have the bios set or the blue key option. What happens if you try to boot the HD?
[03:41] <OchoZero9_> oh
[03:41] <OchoZero9_> it shows all the drives and stuff
[03:41] <OchoZero9_> and says no operating system found next to most of them
[03:41] <OchoZero9_> as it should
[03:42] <OchoZero9_> but Im guessing since it's not bootable it doesn't go into it
[03:43] <OchoZero9_> also i ran unetbootin from another computer, now im thinking it should be run from the computer that ubuntu is going to be installed in, nit-wit?
[03:44] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, could be a number of reasons here, you may just spend a lot of time getting it to work, or not.  No any computer doesn't matter.
[03:44] <OchoZero9_> most docs are made for flash drives
[03:44] <OchoZero9_> not usb HDDs so im very confused
[03:45] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, by docs you mean what?
[03:45] <OchoZero9_> guides, everything i googled
[03:46] <OchoZero9_> couldn't find one specificallly made for external media that ins't a jump drive or a optical drive
[03:46] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, using a external this way is uncoventional. If you wan to just install to it that isa normal method, will not run as fast a dual boot probably
[03:47] <OchoZero9_> no
[03:47] <OchoZero9_> I want to dual boot
[03:48] <OchoZero9_> it's that i don't have a flash drive and my tablet pc doesn't have an optical drive
[03:48] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, get a thumb , it need only to be 1gig size at the least
[03:49] <OchoZero9_> :(
[03:49] <jo-erlend_> does natty use zeitgeist by default?
[03:49] <OchoZero9_> with ipods and phones, i really don't have a need to spend that money
[03:50] <jo-erlend_> I read that it would be an important part of unity, but I haven't seen much of it yet.
[03:50] <OchoZero9_> nit-wit, what about eithernet is that possible?
[03:51] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, actualy your best insurance is a loaded thumb for repairs on the bootloader and other ares in windows and Ubuntu, I don't know about the ethetnet. You might trying a actual relese Natty is unstable your asking for trouble actually your lucy it isn't booting to be honest, not a beginners set up at the least.
[03:52] <nit-wit> sorry for the spelling
[03:52] <OchoZero9_> i wonder if i can return it from walgreens
[03:52] <OchoZero9_> if it's over 5 bucks
[03:53] <OchoZero9_> shame is i have at least 4 thumb drives but i dont know where they are
[03:53] <OchoZero9_> brb let me search
[03:53] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, good idea
[03:53] <OchoZero9_> another question
[03:54] <OchoZero9_> what makes the comptuer kknow if it's a removable disk or not?
[03:54] <OchoZero9_> I remember some usb drives show up under removable and others under local drives
[03:57] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, if you load a thumb and it boots you want to shrink the C partiton with thw W7 disk manager before install and build a correct partition from the thumb in the unallocated space then do a custom install  will help you.  All we know is that it seems to not boot when you choose it to boot, any number of reasons why it doesn't work.
[03:57] <nit-wit> brb
[04:03] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, back
[04:03] <OchoZero9_> nice :)
[04:03] <OchoZero9_> i found a drive
[04:03] <OchoZero9_> 1gb exactly lol
[04:03] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, I would try Maverick or Lucid
[04:03] <OchoZero9_> although i have a few 8gbs rolling arround somewhere
[04:03] <OchoZero9_> the reason i'm going with this is better support for touch
[04:04] <OchoZero9_> i have a captive multi touch screen
[04:04] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, I see that makes sense,
[04:04] <OchoZero9_> only reason
[04:04] <OchoZero9_> aslo
[04:04] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, you understand the shrink C from W7 right firs
[04:05] <OchoZero9_> no
[04:05] <nit-wit> *first right
[04:05] <OchoZero9_> http://www.lenovox201.com/2010/12/x201t-with-ubuntu-os.html
[04:06] <OchoZero9_> oh
[04:06] <OchoZero9_> shrink th epartition
[04:06] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, cool be ready for breakage though and know how to reload the MBR if needed.
[04:07] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, the installer partitioner has some bugs. You always move yor W7 partitions in W7 to leave a space for Ubuntu as well
[04:07] <OchoZero9_> i know my mbr is somewhere in my 122gb  mark
[04:07] <OchoZero9_> since i can't shrink less than that
[04:08] <OchoZero9_> want me to format in windows, or just leave it unallocated?
[04:08] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, the mbr is in the first 512 mib of the HD it is called sda
[04:09] <OchoZero9_> we aren't touching the first part of the Drive
[04:09] <OchoZero9_> first part of the drive isn't even the c:
[04:09] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, you can't format a ext=linux type partition in Windows we will do it from the live thumb.
[04:09] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, you don't understand what the mbr is
[04:09] <OchoZero9_> this stick is painfully slow :(
[04:10] <OchoZero9_> is it what tells the computer what to boot up to?
[04:10] <OchoZero9_> if you have one OS to the OS.. if you have two OS to a choose the OS prompt?
[04:10] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, the mbr doesn't show in the partitiner
[04:12] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, it is the master boot record yes with more then one OS it directs the booting. It is where the booting process starts.
[04:12] <OchoZero9_> on the stick what should i put for alocation size 16 32 or 64?
[04:12] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, not sure what you mean
[04:13] <OchoZero9_> i think it's the cluster size for the thumbdrive
[04:13] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, you need at least a one gig fat 32 at the front of the drive
[04:13] <OchoZero9_> I formated it
[04:13] <OchoZero9_> FAT32
[04:14] <OchoZero9_> it's capacity is 965MB
[04:14] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, so load it with unetbootin, I would make sure its bootable before you shrink W7, The size ios fine
[04:14] <nit-wit> *is
[04:15] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, thats a old one eh
[04:15] <OchoZero9_> very
[04:16] <OchoZero9_> http://imagebin.org/131039
[04:17] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, alright load the thumb and lets see if it boots
[04:17] <OchoZero9_> http://imagebin.org/131040
[04:18] <jo-erlend_> hmm... How do I add the calendar from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/*ReleaseSchedule again? It used to be simple, but I can't find out how to do it with NattyReleaseSchedule, after they changed the wiki.
[04:19] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, how much ram do you have and do you want to suspend=sleep or hibernate the Ubuntu install at times
[04:19] <OchoZero9_> at the moment 3
[04:19] <OchoZero9_> im going for 8
[04:19] <OchoZero9_> and yes to sleep
[04:19] <OchoZero9_> that's why im not doing wubi
[04:20] <OchoZero9_> which seemed like the simplest solution in my case
[04:20] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, okay we will build the partitions if you get in with the thumb using a Linux partitoner called gparted on te live thumb
[04:21] <nit-wit> I'm gonnna smake a cig while you get loaded :) and get the thumb to boot
[04:21] <nit-wit> *smoke
[04:22] <OchoZero9_> okay thanks
[04:29] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, cough, hack, I'm back
[04:29] <OchoZero9_> nice
[04:29] <OchoZero9_> wb
[04:30] <OchoZero9_> this thumbdrive is super slow
[04:30] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, I'm gonna cruise the Ubuntu forum while you get to needing me just tab my nick and I will be back
[04:30] <OchoZero9_> agiht, ty very much
[04:53] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, just so you know a single HD can only have 4 primary type partitions on it you have 3 now. So be careful with just moving forward without a little guidance.
[04:59] <OchoZero9_> nit-wit, this flash sucks
[04:59] <OchoZero9_> :(
[04:59] <OchoZero9_> from this guid https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[05:00] <OchoZero9_> it says usb creater can create the boot files foryou
[05:01] <OchoZero9_> but, only the stick works with that progrma not the Portable. and the stick is painfuly lsow
[05:01] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, I have not ever had good luck with that particular loader
[05:02] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, did you get it loaded and try to boot it what happened if so
[05:06] <OchoZero9_> no because unetbootin is still operating on the stick
[05:06] <OchoZero9_> i wasn't kidding when i said it is going slow
[05:08] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, that is not a good sign, the HD may not have worked as it is not a flash the thumb should load in abou 2-3 minutes in a normal computer
[05:08] <OchoZero9_> :(
[05:08] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, speed for bring read for booting as in how fast the device responds is important
[05:09] <OchoZero9_> oh shi. my food
[05:09] <OchoZero9_> brb
[05:09] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, I would just do a wubi until you get a fast thumb
[05:10] <OchoZero9_> i have it working on a v box
[05:10] <OchoZero9_> but my laptop is an i7 and i want to get my moneys worth
[05:10] <OchoZero9_> that's why i want to install it natively
[05:10] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, the windows or the oracle
[05:11] <OchoZero9_> the sun
[05:11] <OchoZero9_> jk
[05:11] <OchoZero9_> oracle
[05:11] <OchoZero9_> i have the windows one for xp
[05:11] <OchoZero9_> and or 32bit only things
[05:12] <OchoZero9_> since i put 64bit OS  so i can upgrade the memory
[05:13] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, I have all my installs native and one XP Vbox  native is a better way and more stable. The thing is you want the install to be smoth and you will need to have the thumb or cd around as you are running a unstable install with Natty. You always would want at the least a cd/thumb of te install.
[05:14] <OchoZero9_> i have an idea
[05:14] <OchoZero9_> i found my old phone
[05:15] <OchoZero9_> TP2
[05:15] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, does it have a sd sdhc card
[05:15] <OchoZero9_> i have that on my current phone
[05:15] <OchoZero9_> micro
[05:15] <OchoZero9_> thogh
[05:15] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, tp2?
[05:16] <OchoZero9_> a windows 6.5 phone
[05:16] <OchoZero9_> touch pro 2
[05:16] <OchoZero9_> brb gonna get my cold food
[05:16] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, that  computer looks nice i looked it up.
[05:16] <nit-wit> brb myself
[05:29] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, so it seems that you don't have a way to boot a W7 recovery/repair medium at this point is this correct?
[05:32] <OchoZero9_> I think we need to make the hard drive bootable
[05:32] <OchoZero9_> the bios can't tell the difference
[05:33] <OchoZero9_> windows can, and the way iboot and usb creater was implemented was with sticks in mind
[05:33] <OchoZero9_> brb
[05:34] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, I think that you need two tools here you are missing, a bootable windows recovery/repair and a bootable Ubuntu. Without both of these, if Natty crashes and you need to put the bootloader back in the MBR you will need at the least one of them. Good practice would be to have both on thumbs
[05:35] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, your want is actually putting you in danger of bricking the whole computer until fixed.
[05:36] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, I hope this makes sense, t is just not using a hammer but the correct tool to achieve your goals.:)
[05:37] <nit-wit> *it
[05:40] <OchoZero9_> I have two sticks
[05:40] <OchoZero9_> 256 and 1gb
[05:40] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, the 1 gig is the slow one correct
[05:41] <OchoZero9_> yes
[05:41] <OchoZero9_> I also have another idea
[05:42] <OchoZero9_> is it possible to boot to a usb, that points to an iso inanother drive?
[05:42] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, I am not that geeky
[05:43] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, I will tell you though that dual booting and reloading the MBR I'm real familiar with. So what I see is you just grasping for straws.
[05:44] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, not a good practice how would you feel if the computer went south and you didn't have the tools and knowledge to fix it, and had to wait a while for the tools and help
[05:44] <OchoZero9_> I know how to fix the windows part
[05:45] <OchoZero9_> shall we try the stick ?
[05:45] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, so if you lost the boot to anything how would you fix that from windows
[05:46] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, did you try and boot the thumb yet?
[05:47] <OchoZero9_> id attath it to another computer
[05:47] <OchoZero9_> save all my files
[05:47] <OchoZero9_> and restore the whole thing
[05:47] <OchoZero9> I'm going to try now
[05:47] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, I would just boot the recovery thumb and run one command and it would be fixed
[05:47] <OchoZero9> Let me restart that computer two times
[05:48] <OchoZero9> i'd google for a similar fix first
[05:48] <OchoZero9> but if no can do then i would have to restore
[05:48] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, I will be glad to give all the information you need so you don't have to do anything but fix it
[05:49] <OchoZero9> thanks
[05:49] <OchoZero9> I'm going for the first restart
[05:49] <OchoZero9> since i shrank the partition
[05:50] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, I say boot the thumb, and if it works keep it formatted, you can actually load a Linux bootloader that acts like the MS one and you can reload the grub Ubuntu bootloader if needed a very valuable tool:)
[05:51] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, tab me if you get in
[05:52] <OchoZero9> yeah ill keep it like that since i cloud or save to my phone or portables if necessary
[06:00] <OchoZero9> nit-wit, shit it booted kubuntu
[06:01] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, cool
[06:01] <OchoZero9> wait i thought that was a bad thing
[06:01] <OchoZero9> now i have achoice
[06:01] <OchoZero9> i thought it was booting to an OS in the flash, but now i have option to try or install :)
[06:02] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, yes unetn=bootin just loads the SO and boots for running with no save or a install
[06:02] <nit-wit> *ISO
[06:03] <OchoZero9> any precaustions i need to take in this part?
[06:03] <OchoZero9> prepare, deik setup, timezone, keyboard, suer info , install
[06:04] <OchoZero9> download updates while installing?
[06:04] <OchoZero9> or would it slow it down more?
[06:04] <nit-wit> I would just open the browser just make sure it works. We have to pre-build the partitions. There is a bug with the installer so a allow it to just do a auto install might wipe windows away.
[06:05] <OchoZero9> the partition is pre built in windows
[06:05] <OchoZero9> it just not formated
[06:07] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, you have a unallocated space that needs to be built
[06:07] <OchoZero9> okay
[06:07] <OchoZero9> so get otu of here?
[06:08] <OchoZero9> or hit specify partitions manually
[06:08] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, I haven't used kubuntu but open a terminal and run gksudo gparted
[06:09] <nit-wit> get out of the install
[06:09] <OchoZero9> oky so im going bck to where it says try KB
[06:09] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, you just hit the install rather then try
[06:10] <OchoZero9> i went back to where it says try
[06:10] <OchoZero9> im ni the terminal
[06:10] <OchoZero9> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[06:10] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, so in the install part you just got to the partitoning screen
[06:11] <OchoZero9> not reayy i didn't hit next
[06:11] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, run gksudo gparted
[06:11] <OchoZero9> i just say the C drive
[06:11] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, don't go near the C drive in gparted it will be sda2
[06:12] <OchoZero9> it said type sudo apt0get instak gksu
[06:12] <OchoZero9> it installed
[06:12] <OchoZero9> nm, it didn't work
[06:13] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, the command to install it would be sudo apt-get install gparted
[06:14] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, hold on I'm on the kubuntu channel confirming the partitioner
[06:15] <OchoZero9> k
[06:16] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, kubuntu is the same as ubuntu but may have a different native partitioner
[06:16] <OchoZero9> yeah
[06:17] <OchoZero9> the reason im with kubuntu is kile is the most important app for me
[06:17] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, look through the menu for one while we wait.
[06:17] <OchoZero9> and "g"parted may be gnome app
[06:18] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, gparted is its own entity
[06:18] <OchoZero9> oh ok
[06:18] <nit-wit> a very powerful one like the disk manager in W7
[06:20] <OchoZero9> OH SHIT
[06:20] <OchoZero9> i can pinch and zoom with my fingers
[06:20] <IdleOne> !language | OchoZero9
[06:21] <OchoZero9> that's nice
[06:21] <OchoZero9> no driver install or nothing
[06:21] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, look for kparted in the menu or run gksudo kparted in the termianl
[06:22] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, I want one of those
[06:23] <OchoZero9> it says gksudo is not currently sintalled
[06:23] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, jsut look for kparrted in the menu then
[06:25] <nit-wit> *kparted
[06:29] <OchoZero9> i found the appstore
[06:29] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, try this in the terminal kdesu kparted
[06:29] <OchoZero9> kdesu not found
[06:29] <OchoZero9> it says the same for gksudo
[06:30] <OchoZero9> sudo parted worked
[06:30] <nit-wit> are you sure your typing it correctly and leaving a space between the words
[06:30] <OchoZero9> i tyepd
[06:30] <nit-wit> so you see a partition manager that looks kind of like the w7 one?
[06:30] <OchoZero9> 'kdesu kparted'
[06:31] <OchoZero9> no command line
[06:31] <OchoZero9> maybe because i left out the k?
[06:32] <nit-wit> so you see a partitioner that shows the partitions including the unallocated one
[06:33] <OchoZero9> all i see is : GNUE Parted 2.3 \\ Using /dev/sda // Welcome to GNU Parted! Type 'help' to view a list of commands.  \\(parted)
[06:33] <OchoZero9> \\ is just a new line.
[06:36] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, kparted is installed on the thumb I believe, it wont be in a install software part of the menu but as a program. Without it we are dead in the water
[06:39] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, really I'm just not familiar with Kubuntu, if I was sitting there I would be able to do all this in about 2 min, because I know where and what to look for
[06:39] <OchoZero9> hmm i dont see it
[06:39] <OchoZero9> what folder whould it be under
[06:39] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, go to #kubuntu the channel and see if they can get this done
[06:52] <OchoZero9> nit-wit, shoould we just do it via command line?
[06:52] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, I don't know that method
[06:54] <OchoZero9> im searching root for parted
[06:54] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, I have never used Kubuntu i didn't like it, but I support any OS.
[06:54] <OchoZero9> it found a lot of ish
[06:55] <OchoZero9> gparted.desktop
[06:55] <OchoZero9> under /user/shar/app-install/desktop
[06:56] <OchoZero9> aslo gparted_0.7.0-1_amd64.deb
[06:57] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, If I new the super user command=sudo in Ubuntu and gksudo for graphical displays we could install gparted
[06:57] <OchoZero9> it doesn't let me download toher requried files
[06:58] <OchoZero9> something wrong with the download managers connecting to the internet
[06:58] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, your on a live cd it is reading the cd
[06:58] <OchoZero9> because kpackagekit can't connect, and neither can't gparted package installer
[06:59] <OchoZero9> but the internet wroks on the browser
[06:59] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, I think this is beyond me to really help. If I was in front of the computer I could do it but I'm not.
[07:00] <OchoZero9> can you remote?
[07:00] <nit-wit> OchoZero9, you grasping at straws I  have to go sorry.
[07:01] <OchoZero9> k thanks for everything
[08:20] <MTecknology> !info nginx natty
[08:21] <MTecknology> heh... a tad bit outta date
[08:28] <alkisg> Can natty use btrfs as / without workarounds?
[09:15] <alkisg> I'm trying to install natty in a btrfs / partition and it fails with "need a separate /boot partition"
[09:15] <alkisg> Then I'm running ubiquity -b, so that it doesn't install a boot loader, and it still fails with the separate /boot message.
[09:15] <alkisg> Any way around it?
[09:16] <rww> use the alternate CD? ubiquity gets horribly confused at non-standard use cases :(
[09:16] <alkisg> Ty, will download now, is the daily .iso working? Or should I download the alpha 1 one?
[09:17] <rww> no idea, sorry
[09:20] <alkisg> Hmm I fooled ubiquity by telling it to use another partition as /boot but not format it, it doesn't have access to that partition (inside vbox), I hope it doesn't crash horribly on me later... :D
[09:30] <alkisg> The ubiquity window doesn't fit my 800x600 vbox screen, and left alt+drag doesn't work in vbox as it's reserved by the host, any way to change the shortcut so that I can move/see the ubiquity window bottom?
[09:31] <alkisg> Got it, remapped left alt to left win with gnome keyboard settings
[09:53] <alkisg> Bah no it still hanged on mounting /boot so I had to create another virtual disk and tell ubiquity to use it for /boot (and delete it later) :(
[09:56] <alkisg> Btw in my host I tried to `sudo chown /dev/sda3 alkisg:disk` so that I can give vbox access to only that partition, but it kept reverting to root:disk, any idea why or how to make it stick to alkisg:disk?
[13:05] <coz_> hey all
[13:57] <ripps> well, the natty dailies are broken for me. I get a kernel panic whenever I boot up. Thing is, this can't be entirely the kernel, because I'm using Natty's kernel in Maverick via Xorg-Edgers and it works fine.
[15:08] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[15:17] <charlie-tca> Good morning
[15:17] <BluesKaj> hi charlie-tca
[15:18] <charlie-tca> Everything working today?
[15:20] <BluesKaj> had a bit of trouble on my denpc , but I used the recovery kernel and the fix broken pkges option previous to the reboot and managed to install a whole load of required apps including the nvidia-current driver for 7600gt card I have installeds.. now all seems fine .How about you ?
[15:21] <BluesKaj> this media pc here is working well , so far
[15:22] <charlie-tca> Other than alternate images still failing, going good
[15:25] <BluesKaj> alternate images ?
[15:29] <BluesKaj> charlie-tca, I'm using my 42" tv as a monitor for this media-server pc , but the new firefox beta doesn't pick up my kde applications font settings , so the toolbar fonts on FF too small for easy reading ...any ideas ?
[15:29] <charlie-tca> toolbar? I don't use it
[15:30] <charlie-tca> They should be set in the desktop settings somewhere, shouldn't they?
[15:30] <BluesKaj> well the bookmarks toolbar
[15:30] <charlie-tca> The only toolbar I use is Navigation
[15:31] <BluesKaj> the webpage are configurable without probs just the fonts for bookmarks toolbars and menubar
[15:32] <charlie-tca> In Xubuntu, we can grow them along with the tab and menu fonts using Appearance -> Fonts
[15:32] <charlie-tca> which is a gtk font setting, I think
[15:34] <BluesKaj> charlie-tca, right , i used the gtk setting fonts, that fixed it , thanks
[15:34] <charlie-tca> no problem
[16:16] <superhuman_> Hey wouldn't it be better if in Unity when you double click the top panel the window mimimizes?
[16:19] <charlie-tca> I don't think that is possible, with the single panel design
[17:27] <pace_t_zulu> anyone experiencing gnome-panel autostarting in unity?
[17:30] <om26er> pace_t_zulu, you mean gnome-panel also starting in unity?
[17:30] <pace_t_zulu> om26er: yes, as of today
[17:30] <pace_t_zulu> om26er: wasn't happening yesterday
[17:30] <om26er> hmm thats been happening for other people too I think, though i renamed gnome-panel to gnome-pa *profit* :p
[17:33] <pace_t_zulu> om26er: that's a workaround at best
[17:33] <pace_t_zulu> om26er: that will break your 'Ubuntu Classic Desktop' environment
[17:34] <om26er> pace_t_zulu, indeed, I dont use classic desktop on this test machine still I have made a desktop launcher for gnome-pa ;)
[17:35] <pace_t_zulu> om26er: i am testing unity as well... but natty needs the classic environment
[17:36] <om26er> pace_t_zulu, file a bug or find one, I wonder which package would that be for gnome-session(?)
[17:36] <pace_t_zulu> om26er: it hasn't been a problem long enough to file a bug
[17:36] <pace_t_zulu> om26er: they may be doing something transitional right now
[17:39] <om26er> dont think so, the bug has been there from pretty much day1 of compiz-unity, though you faced it now
[17:40] <om26er> pace_t_zulu, when did you last updated?
[17:40] <pace_t_zulu> in the last hour
[17:40] <pace_t_zulu> om26er: 100% updated
[17:40] <om26er> when did the problem start?
[17:41] <pace_t_zulu> om26er: today
[17:41] <om26er> hmm
[17:41] <om26er> i see a gnome-session update an hour old
[17:41] <om26er> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/2.32.1-0ubuntu8
[17:41] <om26er> check which version of gnome-session you have
[17:43] <pace_t_zulu> om26er: 2.32.1-0ubuntu8
[17:44] <om26er> :|
[19:13] <gnomefreak> is 2.6.37-11 broken for everyone? it isnt installing here
[19:22] <charlie-tca> working here on 64bit Xubuntu
[19:23] <BluesKaj> gnomefreak, 2.6.37-11-generic , seems ok so far
[19:24] <charlie-tca> gnomefreak: are you trying to install natty?
[19:25] <gnomefreak> charlie-tca: i have been on natty since tool chain upload
[19:25] <gnomefreak> it wont install here but i have a bit more work to do than i can play with it again
[19:26] <charlie-tca> Okay. It's just that the alternate images are broken. The kernel seems fine, though
[19:26] <gnomefreak> ok thanks ill get back on it in a while
[19:29] <BluesKaj> gnomefreak, are you doing an upgrade from maverick
[19:29] <BluesKaj> or clean install
[19:29] <gnomefreak> BluesKaj: no not sice toolchain was uploaded
[19:29] <gnomefreak> since
[19:32]  * BluesKaj wonders what toolchain is
[19:33] <charlie-tca> BluesKaj: it happens before UDS
[19:33] <charlie-tca> That is what starts the new development cycle officially
[19:34] <BluesKaj> ahhh
[19:34] <gnomefreak> here is the output of the last run i did. http://paste.ubuntu.com/550783/  be back soon
[19:37] <charlie-tca> gnomefreak: partition running out of space?
[19:39] <charlie-tca> gnomefreak: if not out of space, might try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingInstallationIssues#Corrupted%20package%20archive
[19:47] <BluesKaj> hmmm, trying to store alsamixer settings: "sudo alsactl store",  gives this error:  "xcb_connection_has_error() returned true"
[19:53] <gnomefreak> charlie-tca: thanks im working on it now
[19:56] <gnomefreak> funny thing is i cant get -10 to get past plymouth but a couple of others had that issue too
[20:07] <gnomefreak> charlie-tca: thanks its fixed. just needed to re download it
[20:07] <charlie-tca> Great! Glad you got it
[20:18] <knittl> hm. i cannot use webforms on my localhost apache
[20:18] <knittl> upon starting it i see errors related loading the suhosin module
[20:18] <knittl> was it removed in natty/not upgraded yet?
[20:18] <knittl> everything else (apart from forms) seems to work as expected
[20:19] <knittl> i get: [Wed Jan 05 21:19:24 2011] [notice] child pid 20988 exit signal Segmentation fault (11)
[20:19] <knittl> when submitting a form
[20:20] <knittl> hm well, ssl does not work either, but that's the lesser problem when testing locally
[20:20] <glennwhipple> is it okay to upgrade 10.10 to 11.04 alpha 1 using "sudo update-manager -d"?
[20:20] <knittl> glennwhipple: if you like unfinished/broken distros, yes
[20:21] <Yorvyk> glennwhipple, worked for me on a couple of machines.
[20:21] <glennwhipple> i thought i would do the upgrade, keep updating, and watch the progress on a macbook
[20:26] <Yorvyk> glennwhipple, I upgraded, in Nov last year, on a spare partition and it has been fun so far.  No major disasters, yet.
[20:27] <knittl> my apache does not work anymore :(
[20:27] <KM0201> !broken
[20:28] <knittl> KM0201: i already gave an error description -.-
[20:28] <knittl> about 10 lines above
[20:28] <KM0201> i was kidding... i actually didn't realize thas the message that comes up w/ !broken
[20:28] <KM0201> or i prolly wouldn't have triggered it
[20:28] <knittl> it's not helping either way
[20:29] <glennwhipple> i'm gonna try on my macbook except i got a lot of ppa repo's i'll have to disable but we
[20:29] <knittl> i gave information i thought was useful, if more information is needed i can give it
[20:29] <glennwhipple> we'll see how it goes
[22:09] <h4f> where can I find ubuntu appearance  ? Before I used to configure my visual effects
[22:11] <charlie-tca> It's not there yet
[22:11] <h4f> all my bars (wit close,maximize minimize etc buttons) has disappear  somewhere
[22:12] <h4f> I taught I can  restore them from there
[22:13] <h4f> any one know how I can restore this toollbar ?
[22:14] <h4f> without rebooting off-course :)
[22:21] <Dimitree> Hello and happy new year! Is the "4 lines kernel fix" implemented in 11.04 yet?
[22:25] <BUGabundo> evening
[22:26] <nit-wit> BUGabundo, whats up
[22:26] <BUGabundo> my owed sleep hours
[22:27] <nit-wit> BUGabundo, do you need help?
[22:27] <BUGabundo> naaa
[22:27] <BUGabundo> I'm gine
[22:27] <BUGabundo> *fine
[22:28] <nit-wit> cool carry on then.:)
[22:38] <BUGabundo> I have way to many kernels instaled :S
[22:38] <nit-wit> BUGabundo, do you have ubuntu tweak installed
[22:39] <BUGabundo> no, don't think I do
[22:39] <BUGabundo> I'm old school.. I'm from a time, where UT would cause more probs then solve
[22:40] <nit-wit> BUGabundo, please tab the nick to auto complete or I may not see you have posted a response as I move around channels.:)  ubuntu twaek has a nice kernel cleaner install the ppa
[22:40] <BUGabundo> LOL
[22:40] <BUGabundo> nit-wit: are you treatning me as n00b? :D
[22:41] <BUGabundo> nit-wit: FYI I've been on IRC since 1994 :)
[22:42] <nit-wit> BUGabundo,  no I'm asking you to follow a general protocol if you relly want help on something tab it if you want to lurk and cryptically answer go somewhere else
[22:42] <IdleOne> nit-wit: BUGabundo is like old furniture in this channel
[22:42] <BUGabundo> ok ok just didn't see the need to ping you so much nit-wit... I don't like it that much, on low traffic channels
[22:42] <nit-wit> BUGabundo, good then you know the drill.:)
[22:42] <BUGabundo> IdleOne: I'm the one requesting it to open :D
[22:43] <IdleOne> BUGabundo: I know
[22:43] <BUGabundo> I know you know :D
[22:44] <IdleOne> no matter how many times we try and toss that old sofa, nobody wants to take it so we keep bringing it back in.
[22:44] <nit-wit> BUGabundo, I can appreciate you having what you want but this is a group effort is it not.
[22:44] <IdleOne> :P
[22:44] <BUGabundo> hen?
[22:44] <guntbert> nit-wit: just drop it :-)
[22:44] <nit-wit> guntbert, thaks for tabbing
[22:45] <nit-wit> *thanks
[22:45] <guntbert> ?
[22:45] <BUGabundo> its not good netetiquette to force your etiquette on others :)
[22:45] <IdleOne> nit-wit: BUG was not asking for help was more like "thinking out loud"
[22:45] <BUGabundo> correct
[22:45] <BUGabundo> I "vent" a lot
[22:45] <Dimitree> Lets try one more time :) :: If i download and install from the daily builds, Will i have the option to install btrfs without ext3/4 for grub, and also is the kernel with the "4 lines fix" included in them?
[22:46] <BUGabundo> Dimitree: not when I did it
[22:46] <BUGabundo> and no update to grub since then
[22:46] <nit-wit> IdleOne, I asked a question and they responded to me as  said I have multiple channels open. I will be glad to drop this
[22:46] <BUGabundo> oh he left :(
[22:46] <Dimitree> thanks BUGabundo
[22:46] <IdleOne> hmm, probably just having a rough day. I wouldn't worry bout it BUGabundo
[22:47] <BUGabundo> I'm having a terrible year
[22:47] <BUGabundo> and not putting it on anyone else :\
[22:47] <IdleOne> going on decade #2 for me :P
[22:47] <BUGabundo> lol
[22:47] <Dimitree> haha
[22:48] <IdleOne> BUGabundo: I think in this case is that he also does a lot of support in #ubuntu so he thought you were asking for help but just wanted to let you know that he channel jumps a lot.
[22:48] <IdleOne> was all just a miscommunication.
[22:49] <BUGabundo> ctrl+tab does wonders :D
[22:50] <BUGabundo> so that may make me need a couple new fingers... plus eyes
[22:52] <BUGabundo> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/pidgin-data_1%3a2.7.9-1ubuntu1_all.deb (--unpack):
[22:52] <BUGabundo>  trying to overwrite '/usr/share/pixmaps/pidgin/protocols/48/facebook.png', which is also in package pidgin-facebookchat 1.67.1-1
[22:52] <BUGabundo> speaking of which... pidgin is broken