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barrylifeless: sorry, i got distracted by work and dinner. ;)  can you please ping me again tomorrow (i have to go out for a while now)00:01
lifelessk00:01
SpamapSlifeless: I've been following the thread.. and you know I'd like to help solve that issue.. have been pulled far away from that stuff though. :-P00:08
lifelessSpamapS: cool00:09
lifelessSpamapS: feel free to jump in :)00:09
SpamapSAt this point I think the "educate people" argument has proven ineffective, even if it is "the right way" .. its not helping much. :-P00:10
lifelessthe python community has little interest in naming modules with api versions on /every/ incompatibility00:11
lifelessheck, unittest2 mentioned in that thread *isn't* an API version00:12
lifelessits 'unittest backported for python 2.x'00:12
SpamapSTo be honest I think ruby might even do a better job of this.00:12
SpamapS192.168.122.1:/home/clint /mnt/clint nfs ro,soft 0 000:23
SpamapSwhat am I missing.. mountall is skipping that mount00:23
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lifelessSpamapS: not sure :)01:56
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ScottKdoko: I still couldn't get libreoffice to fail with KDE enabled.  Would you please publish the source of what fails somehwere?05:52
keesweird. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/busybox/+bug/69498306:04
ubottuUbuntu bug 694983 in busybox (Ubuntu) "udhcpd crashes with 'Illegal instruction'" [Undecided,New]06:04
dholbachgood morning06:11
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siretartRiddell: unping my comment from yesterday, I've just noticed the notice in the buglog. sorry for the trouble07:09
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pittiGood morning07:59
pittibdmurray: will do08:00
evfool#libreoffice09:37
pittimdke: here by chance?10:00
aradoko, ping10:12
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didrocksjdstrand: hey, are you around for some apparmor questions?12:40
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dokoScottK: that the uploaded code, with the kde config options commented out in the natty section of the rules file13:04
raphinkhello13:05
raphinkis there someone here who knows net-snmp (and libsnmp-base in particular) well?13:10
raphinkI'm wondering if the wget (strong) dependency is really necessary13:11
raphinkit seems justified because mibfetch needs it in the README, but we don't ship mibfetch13:11
raphinkand on standard server installs, wget seems to be only pulled by libsnmp-base13:12
Chipacahi all. What was the process of asking for an update to a package (i.e. upstream is at a new version)? I know it starts with "write a bug", I've done it before, but can't remember more than that, and that I then had to subscribe somebody to it (who?), and ... anything else?13:14
cjwatson"file a bug" seems sufficient.  anything more depends on how much you want/need to harass people about it13:15
raphinkChipaca, you mean in natty?13:15
Chipacaraphink: yep13:15
raphinkby upstream, do you mean debian or real upstream (sourceforge, LP, etc.)?13:16
cjwatsonFWIW, it's usually smoothest if the upstream can go via Debian13:16
Chipacareal upstream :) -- checking debian13:16
cjwatsonmeans everything follows the natural grain13:16
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raphinkChipaca, right, like cjwatson said, it's always better to go through Debian (when possible)13:17
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raphinkso the first step is to check if Debian has it13:17
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raphinkif Debian has it, the package might be listed here: https://merges.ubuntu.com/13:17
raphinksee https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/Merging-and-Syncing13:17
raphink... which actually tells you to look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging for the reference :-)13:18
Chipacadebian has the old version13:19
ChipacaI've even got the new packages working (so I can develop against the newly added api), and it was just a ... bzr merge-upstream iirc13:19
* Chipaca reads the wiki13:19
raphinkanyone has an opinion on the libsnmp-base wget dependency?13:20
zulraphink: hmm? what13:24
raphink I'm wondering if the wget (strong) dependency is really necessary. It seems justified because mibfetch needs it in the README, but we don't ship mibfetch and on standard server installs, wget seems to be only pulled by libsnmp-base.13:25
jdstranddidrocks: hi! fire away13:26
cjwatsonwget is going to be pulled in by ssh-import-id RSN anyway13:26
cjwatsonso may not be worth worrying about?13:26
cjwatsonthough of course if we don't ship mibfetch we shouldn't claim its dependencies!13:27
didrocksjdstrand: hey, is there any kind of debug/logs of what access have been prevented in apparmor? I can't launch unity in the guest session only if the apparmor guest profile is here13:27
Chipzzcjwatson: although the same could probably be achieved by curl13:27
Chipzzwhich makes me wonder if it wouldn't be worth writing simple wrappers for both for the simple use case "fetch a file" and depend on wget | curl13:28
jdstranddidrocks: yes. they show up in dmesg/kern.log. if you have auditd installed, they show up in /var/log/audit/audit.log. use 'grep -i denied <file>'13:28
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raphinkcjwatson, I do not see any ssh package being removed when I remove wget13:29
didrocksjdstrand: ok thanks, let's have a look then. I was looking at /var/log/apparmor/ desperatly :)13:29
cjwatsonraphink: you haven't upgraded sufficiently recently13:29
cjwatsonssh-import-id was newed today13:29
cjwatsonand is recommended by openssh-server now13:30
jdstranddidrocks: that said, the kernel does rate limiting of apparmor when not using auditd, so if debugging and profiling you will want to do: sudo sysctl -w kernel.printk_ratelimit=013:30
raphinkcjwatson, possibly, my servers are on lucid ;-)13:30
cjwatsonChipzz: what would that gain?  wget is in standard; curl is not13:30
cjwatsonit's not as if both wget and curl are installed on default server installs13:30
raphinkyes indeed13:31
Chipzzcjwatson: not having both installed because a depends: wget and b depends: curl13:31
cjwatsonChipzz: which isn't happening on default server installs right now, which is what raphink was asking about13:31
raphink(some big company where I happen to be working considers wget|curl to be harmful programs on servers)13:31
Chipzzyou're only thinking "main" now13:31
cjwatsonI'm not interested in this discussion so will withdraw13:31
Chipzzok w/e13:31
raphinkhaha :-)13:32
Chipzzraphink: the same can probably be achieved be a pretty stock perl install; or netcat13:32
Chipzzso tey're misguided13:32
Chipzz*they13:32
raphinkthey certainly are13:33
didrocksjdstrand: ok, seems that the issue is it's denying to open my config compiz file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/550632/13:33
raphinkbut the company is 100k+ employees and the corporate security team has an opinion that matters much more than mine13:33
raphink;-)13:33
raphinknot like wget is useful for monitoring either, heh ;-)13:33
Chipzzstock python can get a file too13:35
Chipzzto make it impossible to download a file from a server is basically impossible13:35
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janimoLaney, hi, any news re ghc6 ?13:48
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Laneyjanimo: not had time yet13:53
Laneyif you want you can try a merge with experimental13:53
Laneyi'll sponsor that for you if you need it13:53
janimoLaney, I have upload rights, but thanks13:54
Laneyok cool13:54
Laneyplease do that then13:54
janimoLaney, problem is on my arm build even the current one succeeded13:54
Laneyit's what i was/am going to do when time allows13:54
janimounlike in the buildd13:55
Laneyyeah i don't understand it really13:55
janimoLaney, ok, I'll check it out these days13:55
Laneythanks13:56
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geserdoko: do you have an idea what's the issue here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/550656/14:44
bcurtiswx_anyone here successfully add a PPA to their pbuilder-dist,  I try the --othermirror option with no luck (it appears).. look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/550660/14:51
nigelbbcurtiswx_: shouldn't that go into the sources.list of the pbuilder?14:54
bcurtiswx_nigelb, i would normally, except pbuilder-dist overwrites the config on every load..14:54
nigelbhrm, isn't there some option to stop that?14:55
bcurtiswx_nigelb, maybe I missed it, but i've scoured the man pages14:55
tumbleweedno, there isn't14:55
tumbleweedbcurtiswx_: easy answer, use pbuilder, and point it at your pbuilder-dist root tgz14:56
raphinkbcurtiswx_, did you try with APTCONFDIR ?14:58
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bcurtiswx_raphink, APTCONFDIR="/home/ken/.pbuilder/apt.conf.d" in my .pbuilderrc where in the apt.conf.d where I have a bcurtis@wx:~/.pbuilder/apt.conf.d/apt/sources.list.d$15:02
bcurtiswx_??15:02
dokogeser: not at first glance. ./e-map/libemap.a as the last argument looks odd15:05
raphinkbcurtiswx_, that should do15:07
raphinkdo an update --override-config15:07
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jhuntnotify15:11
jhuntoops :)15:11
RoAkSoAx/win 815:16
bcurtiswx_raphink, it seems to work now.. thx.  tumbleweed you too :)15:18
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seb128Laney, directhex: do you have any clue about bug 596727?15:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 596727 in sysinfo (Ubuntu) "sysinfo crashes when I click on "system": GConf.NoSuchKeyException: Key '/apps/sysinfo/window_width' not found in GConf" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59672715:29
seb128the title is misleading, the crash is rather the one from comment #1115:29
cjwatsonSarvatt: I'm just about ready to finally upload a console-setup with keyboard-configuration15:32
cjwatsonSarvatt: how long would it take you / other X folks to prepare an upload that switches back to that, in line with Debian?15:32
directhexseb128, can't look at it until the weekend. email me so i don't forget15:32
seb128directhex, ok15:33
seb128directhex, can I just subscribe you to the bug or do you prefer an email?15:33
directhexsubscribe is fine as long as something pings the bug so i end up with an email from it15:33
seb128directhex, ok thanks15:36
Laneythe code of that Xorg() function looks a bit suspicious15:37
dokokees: had to update one chunk in the default-ssp patch. now building in the ubuntu-toolchain-r ppa15:44
seb128Laney, ok, I think I know what it doesn't like15:45
Laneyseb128: yeah I reproed it15:45
LaneyIf you empty /var/log/Xorg.0.log then it happens15:45
seb128Laney, the log lines start with [....]15:45
seb128Laney, even non empty15:45
seb128on ubuntu it has the stamps15:45
seb128so no line matches what it wants15:45
Laneyok I'm on Debian ATM, so ...15:46
seb128try copying a random file over the log I guess will do the same15:46
Laneywhere's the NRE? 320?15:46
seb128nre?15:47
seb128oh15:48
Laneynull reference exception15:48
seb128System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object15:48
seb128  at Sysinfo.SystemInfo.Xorg () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:015:48
Laneyyeah doesn't say which line :(15:48
seb128how do you tell it to say the line?15:48
seb128Laney, I guess it's the "temp = textread.ReadLine();" when reaching the end of file without match though15:48
seb128brb15:49
Laneythat is my thought15:50
Laneyso just break the loop if temp == null is easiest15:51
Laneyideally that whole method would be refactored, there has to be a better way of doing that15:52
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Laneynm, will fix it if that is right. thanks seb12815:58
Laney[edit] PowerPC15:59
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seb128Laney, I confirm that removing the [...] before "Build Date" fixes the crash16:02
Laneyseems that ReadLine() returns null if there is nothing to read16:03
seb128Laney, thanks, btw do you think you could review and maybe grab the 2 small changes we have in ubuntu and get back in sync?16:03
Laneyyep I will take those too16:03
seb128Laney, thank you, can I assign the bug to you on launchpad?16:04
Laneyif you want to try the patch it'll be to change the loop condition to have while (... && (temp = ... != null))16:04
seb128oh you did16:04
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seb128Laney, I don't have the mono build-depends on that box but I will try later16:05
seb128Laney, btw what you suggest will fix the crash but not make the version to be read16:07
Laneyyeah make it substring16:08
seb128Laney, ideally it would strip the "[.*] "16:08
Bravewolflatest update of lucid breaks "kde-l10n-engb" "kde-l10n-it".16:16
RiddellBravewolf: can you be more specific than "breaks"?16:16
Bravewolfsure16:17
Riddellpastebin the apt-get output for example16:17
BravewolfThe following packages are BROKEN:16:17
Bravewolf  kde-l10n-engb kde-l10n-it16:17
Bravewolf2 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.16:17
BravewolfNeed to get 10,2MB of archives. After unpacking 160kB will be used.16:17
BravewolfThe following packages have unmet dependencies:16:17
Bravewolf  kde-l10n-it: Depends: libkdecore5 (>= 4:4.5.0) which is a virtual package.16:17
Bravewolf  kde-l10n-engb: Depends: libkdecore5 (>= 4:4.5.0) which is a virtual package.16:17
BravewolfThe following actions will resolve these dependencies:16:17
BravewolfRemove the following packages:16:17
Bravewolfkde-l10n-it16:17
BravewolfKeep the following packages at their current version:16:17
Bravewolfkde-l10n-engb [4:4.4.2-0ubuntu6 (lucid, now)]16:17
BravewolfScore is 18916:17
micahg!pastebin | Bravewolf16:17
Bravewolf$ apt-cache policy  libkdecore16:17
ubottuBravewolf: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.16:17
BravewolfW: Unable to locate package libkdecore16:17
Bravewolfhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/550710/16:18
Bravewolfhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/550711/16:19
BravewolfRiddell: here is the output16:19
Bravewolfmicahg: ok16:19
RiddellBravewolf: thanks16:19
RiddellBravewolf: also pastebin  apt-cache policy kde-l10n-it16:19
BravewolfRiddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/550712/16:20
psusiok, I have uploaded a bzr branch, requested merge, filed a bug requesting merge, linked to branch.. anything else I need to do?  like subscribe patch pilots, or tag the bug or anything?16:22
micahgpsusi: if there's a merge proposal, that should show up in the sponsoring queue, when there's not a merge proposal, you need to subscribe ubuntu-sponsors to the bug16:23
RiddellBravewolf: hmm, looks like you have found a significant problem16:23
RiddellBravewolf: well the good news is that you can safely remove those packages, unless you care about documentation translations, they don't contain the application translations16:23
RiddellScottK: wibble ^^16:23
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BravewolfRiddell: right, I can remove them. By the way I don't know why this problem appears with the latest update. I seems that something is wrong with the dependencies and/or the new version requires some libraries not available. Who is supposed to fix to it? Should I file a bug?16:32
RiddellBravewolf: yes it's bug and we need to fix it16:33
RiddellBravewolf: please do file a bug and let me know the number16:33
BravewolfRiddell: ok16:33
Sarvattcjwatson: apologies for the delay, I'm on it now16:40
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cjwatsonSarvatt: great, thanks - http://paste.ubuntu.com/550726/ perhaps?  looks like the rest of that file is still useful16:44
Sarvatthttp://sarvatt.com/downloads/merges/xorg-server-keyboard-config/     http://sarvatt.com/downloads/merges/xorg-server-keyboard-config/xorg-server_1.9.0.902-1ubuntu2.debdiff16:45
Sarvattah ok, good point16:45
Sarvattfixing16:45
cjwatsonSarvatt: IMPORT{file}="/etc/default/keyboard" works fine in this VM, at least16:50
cjwatsonso I'm going to go ahead and upload c-s16:50
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BravewolfRiddell: I was sending the bug report when I found https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/69667516:52
ubottuUbuntu bug 696675 in kde-l10n-engb (Ubuntu) "kde l10n packages depend on libkdecore5 which doesn't exist" [Undecided,New]16:52
Riddellthanks Bravewolf16:56
mvocjwatson: I just played with the latest grub and btrfs a little bit, it complains that ""only detection is support for btrfs, you need to load the kernel first" (v1.99~0101221). is there something missing in code or am I not driving it correctly (this is from the grub shell at boot)16:59
BravewolfRiddell: thanks for your help17:01
cjwatsonmvo: you need 1.99~20110104-117:02
cjwatsonmvo: if you're on amd64, it hasn't quite landed yet17:02
mvocjwatson: indeed, that is the problem. thanks17:04
cjwatsonSarvatt: uploaded now - please go ahead and upload xorg-server when you get a chance17:07
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Sarvattcjwatson: I have no upload permissions but I am attempting to find a sponsor and have fixed it up in git as well as http://sarvatt.com/downloads/merges/xorg-server-keyboard-config/ . bryceh should be on soon, we had some other changes queued up in git that might be a bit scary to review :)17:10
cjwatsonSarvatt: I suppose I could upload it, but the X team might prefer I didn't17:13
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SarvattI can't speak for the other guys but the complaints usually come from it being maintained in git and changes not pushed to pkg-xorg, already ran the nvidia/fglrx change past tseliot and bryce and RAOF is on vacation17:18
tseliotSarvatt: what's up?17:19
tseliotSarvatt: what kind of change?17:20
Sarvatttseliot: cjwatson uploaded a console-setup with keyboard-config and xorg-server needs a sponsor, fixed it up but it includes the other stuff queued up in git17:20
Sarvatttseliot: the fglrx/nvidia no xorg.conf needed change17:20
tseliotSarvatt: ok, how can I help? Aren't those changes ready?17:21
Sarvattbeen running it for 2 months now with no side effects, yeah just need a sponsor for http://sarvatt.com/downloads/merges/xorg-server-keyboard-config/ if you have a bit of time17:22
Sarvatt(and it's been enabled in xorg-edgers for the same amount of time)17:22
tseliotsweet, there's a debdiff :)17:22
tseliotSarvatt: I'll review it and upload17:22
Sarvatttseliot: thanks a ton!17:22
tseliotSarvatt: the fix that RAOF included is something that I wanted to include myself so this basically saves me some time17:24
superm1Sarvatt, with 105_* what happens if you actually still use an xorg.conf?  are you able to force it back and forth to radeonhd, ati etc ?17:25
Sarvattsuperm1: no difference17:25
superm1i just seem to remember that there were some concerns raised with that a year back or so in #ubuntu-x17:26
superm1where it broke a particular scenario17:26
Sarvattsuperm1: it just adds fglrx/nvidia to the autoconfig pool which isn't used when an xorg.conf is present17:26
tseliotright17:26
tseliotthey are 2 different paths17:26
Sarvattsuperm1: the problem before was that it needed the DefaultDepth option to work17:26
superm1oh right17:27
tseliotand you really need that with fglrx and nvidia17:27
tseliot;)17:27
Sarvattonly difference this will make is things will actually work if people install via a package manager and not jockey since jockey makes the xorg.conf17:28
tseliotthe debdiff looks good to me (I remember reviewing the same patch)17:28
superm1well very cool then.  i suppose after that publishes jockey should have the functionality of making an xorg.conf disabled too17:28
Sarvattwell it doesn't hurt having it in jockey, I didn't add the NoLogo option there :)17:28
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Sarvattsometimes we need to add IgnoreABI to nvidia temporarily via jockey too17:30
tseliotyes, we don't want the logo to show up when the session starts and we can add workarounds too, as Sarvatt says17:32
bdrungdoko: the press picked up your mail about libreoffice: http://www.golem.de/1101/80502.html17:35
tseliotSarvatt: maybe the change to panoramiXprocs.c should have been a patch17:37
tseliotinstead of a direct change17:37
tseliotbut I guess it's fine17:37
tseliotSarvatt: maybe the change to panoramiXprocs.c should have been a patch instead of a direct change but I guess it's fine17:40
tseliotyou use git to track these changes so it's definitely fine17:41
tseliotSarvatt: uploaded17:42
Sarvatttseliot: yeah i'd prefer it that way too, at least he actually cherry picked it into git this time instead of just updating the changelog :) thanks a bunch tseliot17:43
tseliotnp17:43
SpamapSslangasek: so I think i have a handle on the statd issue. unfortunately it involves spinning waiting for statd to start the same way we had to spin and wait for portmap.17:56
slangasekoh?17:56
SpamapSthe problem is that we *must* block mounting TYPE=nfs17:56
SpamapSuntil statd is started17:57
slangasekand why is that not happening?  isn't it just because statd forks before listen?17:57
SpamapSso the timeline is.. we hit local-filesystems and started portmap ON_BOOT=y .. but then net-device-up fires at the same time, which tries to start statd, but does not block mounting .. so the mount fails17:57
SpamapSbasically if an event in upstart doesn't actually change the goal.. it doesn't block17:58
SpamapSI think17:58
slangasekoh; so the problem is statd is being triggered by an event other than 'mounting'17:58
SpamapSright17:58
SpamapSwhich it must be17:58
SpamapSbecause of the requirement that it also be running for nfs-kernel-server in runlevel 217:58
slangasekright, certainly17:59
slangasekso how do you solve this?  Not sure what you're talking about spinning waiting17:59
SpamapShttp://paste.ubuntu.com/550745/17:59
dobey/usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/buildcore.mk:34: *** multiple target patterns.  Stop.18:00
dobeyanyone know why one would get that all of a sudden?18:00
SpamapSslangasek: on review of statd, it should hit 'started' very quickly.18:00
SpamapSslangasek: so 5 seconds is an eternity.18:00
cjwatsonmvo: I'm uploading grub2 1.99~20110104-2ubuntu1 now - that should build on amd6418:01
slangasekSpamapS: I think you're a missing a comment in that file: "icky blech hack hack hack, remove when upstart is fixed" :)18:01
SpamapSslangasek: the rant I put in the file was too long for the pastebin.. ;)18:02
slangasekheh18:02
cjwatsonFermat's Last Rant18:02
SpamapSso yeah, there just needs to be a way to have new events attach to existing events18:04
dobeyis it really impossible to use substvars in package names?18:09
SpamapSone thing that I'm confused on is how we can possibly run sm-notify on an NFS root system, since /var/lib/nfs would have to be unique to the machine18:09
keesdoko: oh? what was missed? it worked when I built it.18:10
ebroderdobey: I'd expect that you'd need some major hackery that cdbs probably can't deal with18:10
dobeyebroder: hrmm. not cool :-/18:11
ebroderdobey: cdbs does things like calculate paths based on package names, but substvars aren't substituted until very close to the end of the build18:12
dobeyyeah i get that. it's still annoying :)18:12
dokokees: just something not applying, maybe because of an update from the trunk. btw, it now ftbfs on amd64 with the hardening patches enabled18:12
ebroderdobey: There are also all of the things like the automatically populated foo/package make targets18:13
keesdoko: gah. what fails?18:15
dobeyebroder: yeah, which is why it should probably figure out the substitutions early, for internal use as well18:16
ebroderdobey: I don't think you can do that many levels of code generation with make18:16
keesdoko: and you did get https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-snapshot/+bug/696990/+attachment/1783015/+files/gcc-4.6_4.6-20101220-1ubuntu0.1.debdiff not the earlier one?18:18
ubottuUbuntu bug 696990 in gcc-snapshot (Ubuntu) "update for gcc-4.6 hardening patches" [High,In progress]18:18
slangasekSpamapS: NFS root doesn't imply shared; indeed, /var/ *must* be unique, so anyone doing serious NFS rooting has to make provisions for this18:20
SpamapSslangasek: actually I think we may be able to ditch the polling. If I do 'stop on started statd or stopped statd' then .. as evil as it sounds, we can just run 'start statd' and wait forever. *one* of those events will happen, and we'll be killed.18:21
slangasekoh, that sounds less evil to me, yes :)18:22
dobeyebroder: do you know if there is some other way to conditionally name packages?18:23
SpamapSslangasek: any suggestions on how to wait forever? sleep 1bazillion seems a little silly18:24
geserdoko: re my linking problem: your hint seems to be correct: when I move the last .a more to the front the linking works18:24
slangasekSpamapS: 'while sleep 3600; :; done' ? Pretty sure an hour-long nap is long enough :)18:25
ebroderdobey: i think you'd need to use pure (pre-7) debhelper18:25
ebroderdobey: i think i've seen something sort of like that done with the zephyr package, so you could look at that (it has provisions for building krb4 or krb5 versions of a bunch of packages, and figures out which at build-time)18:25
SpamapSslangasek: one thing it does is it flags the event with an error.. so mountall bitches18:36
SpamapSslangasek: but it doesn't affect any other events tied to the mounting event18:36
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meebeycan I hint the software-center and/or app-install-data which package should be installed instead of the package it found the .desktop file in? the issue is that the package that contains the desktop file is only a portion of the software, instead a higher level metapackage should be installed18:45
sebnerhuhu meebey :)18:46
meebeysebner: hiya18:47
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dobeyebroder: is there any way to perhaps alter the list of packages being built in cdbs?18:50
cdbs\o/18:50
dobeyebroder: by mucking with a variable somehow, for example?18:50
cjwatsondobey: you can generate debian/control from debian/control.in in your clean rule18:52
cjwatsonthat's the usual way to dynamically generate binary package names18:53
cjwatsonyou may also have to generate some other files, depending on how your packaging is laid out18:53
dobeyso just sed -e blah blah inside clean::?18:53
cjwatsonyeah18:54
cdbsdobey: yup18:54
cjwatsonit has to be in clean because debian/control is read at the very start of the build, and the .dsc needs to match for archive consistency18:54
dobeyok, i'll try that18:55
lifelessbarry: ping; nag.18:57
meebeylooks like a desktop file can be blacklisted, so I could add a symlink in the metapackage and get the other one backlisted18:59
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dokokees: see https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/test/+packages (gcc-4.6 failures)19:17
keesdoko: you're building on maverick, not natty? I only tested natty.19:18
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kees../../src/gcc/lto/lto.c:2464:1: internal compiler error: in ready_remove_first, at haifa-sched.c:141419:19
keesuuuhm, whoa19:19
keesI don't think the hardening patches touch that file19:19
SpamapSslangasek: this works to avoid spinning for portmap too. I think its probably the way to go for waiting for an event.19:20
dokokees: same snapshot builds on unstable. will recheck next week with a new snapshot19:22
dobeycjwatson: that seems to work sufficiently for what i need it for; thanks!19:22
keesdoko: hm, I wonder if maverick vs natty makes a difference?19:23
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Sarvattcjwatson: console-setup in depwait for bdfresize thats in universe if you didn't see :(19:30
cjwatsonoh, bah19:32
barrylifeless: hi.  thanks for the reminder.19:33
cjwatsonI got it MIR-approved eons ago - I'll promote it shortly19:34
cjwatsonSarvatt: ^-19:34
Sarvattcjwatson: ah nice, thanks cjwatson!19:34
manjosuperm1, do you have any insight into  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/588194 ?19:46
ubottuUbuntu bug 588194 in linux (Ubuntu) "Unexpected power-off during boot or when resuming from suspend" [Undecided,Triaged]19:46
zyga-efikais the Toolchain WG call over20:04
zyga-efikaI'd like to see michael hope20:04
superm1manjo, no sorry i can't say i've seen that before20:07
manjosuperm1, existed since lucid apparently20:08
manjosuperm1, looks like acpi related20:08
evfoolhi all20:14
evfooltrying to build unity from source, but I guess the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/InstallationGuideFromSource needs an update, cause nux can-t be built without gnome-common from svn20:16
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cyphermoxevfool, maybe not so helpful for you, but if you're on natty, you can use the packages provided, unless you need to change them ;)20:31
SpamapSslangasek: ok, pormap and nfs-utils changes are pushed up and merges proposed20:43
SpamapSportmap even20:43
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bdrungcjwatson: you synced pwdhash 1.7-9, but it doesn't appear on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pwdhash . what's going on?21:03
sebnerbdrung: cjwatson : Same with monobristol21:20
bdrungsame with audacious21:21
sebnermeh21:23
micahgit's the same with everything that was sync'd today AFAICT21:24
sebnerbreaaaaaaaaaaaaakage21:25
gesersyncs not flushed yet?21:47
kirklandbarry: howdy, around?22:29
barrykirkland: hi22:30
hallynhas anyone noticed that debdiff on natty always seems to add a bunch of .po files to the diff, when in fact you made no changes by hand to those files?22:48
ebroderthat's usually due a broken clean target22:49
hallynhm.  i've seen that with just about every package i've touched in the last two months,22:49
ebroderi mean...debdiff isn't going to go making that sort of thing up22:50
hallynebroder: right, I just don't know what to blame :)  automake?22:50
ebroderhallyn: i don't really know. i haven't run into one of those sorts of packages recently, and it's never quite bugged me enough to chase after me22:51
hallynebroder: yeah, ditto.  It might be getting close enough.  If I can close some other bugs I may have to go chase that down22:52
hallynthanks22:52
ebrodererr, chase after *it, as i'm sure you figured22:52
hallynheh, somehow i hadn't even noticed htat :)22:53
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bdrunghallyn: that (.po files to the diff) happens often if you build the binaries.23:10
hallynbdrung: I just don't remember ever seeing that with maverick, but am seeing it all the time with natty23:15
bdrunghallyn: i assume this workaround should work: build only source (debuild -S) and build the binaries with pbuilder/sbuild.23:16
hallynbdrung: I *thought* I'd had this happen even with taht workflow, but can't swear by it.23:17
hallynif it happens again I'll ring :)23:17
bdrungyes, and then let's find this bug that triggers the diff23:18
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lifelessbarry: what version of python did .pth files start working in?23:39
cjwatsonbdrung: sorry, I just forgot to flush them.  flushing now23:41
bdrungthanks23:42

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