[06:11] <dholbach> good morning
[06:28] <YoBoY> good morning
[09:51] <czajkowski> aloha folks 
[09:56] <leoquant> morning czajkowski and all
[10:49] <cjohnston> mornin
[11:56] <HakanS> Good afternoon, morning or night.
[13:08] <Ronnie> cjohnston: https://code.launchpad.net/~ronnie.vd.c/loco-directory/627492/+merge/43988
[13:43] <Ronnie> cjohnston: mhall119: how to generate the meeting log url in the meeting form when the date/time is not known yet
[13:44] <Ronnie> if all the servers use the url as: http://host/year/month/day/channel.html than we can ask for only the hostname, and calculate the other part afterwards
[13:45] <Ronnie> but if there are services that uses other url's, we have to think of something else
[13:45] <daker> Ronnie, http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/%Year%/%Month%/%Day%/%Channel%.html#t%Hour%:%Minute%
[13:47] <daker> Ronnie, all the loco teams are supposed to use irclogs.ubuntu.com
[13:48] <Ronnie> daker, so that means we do not have to ask for the url in the form, but just generate it in the overview pages
[13:49] <daker> Ronnie, i guess yes
[13:49] <daker> Ronnie, the only needed infos are the channel & the time
[13:50] <Ronnie> yes, and those fields are already in the form
[13:50] <daker> Ronnie, so you have just to generate a url like this http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/%Year%/%Month%/%Day%/%Channel%.html#t%Hour%:%Minute%
[13:50] <Ronnie> daker, already implemented :D
[13:51] <daker> Ronnie, just note that the logs should be available after the end of the meeting
[13:53] <cjohnston> maybe only show the link to the logs after the meeting time
[13:54] <daker> cjohnston, yes
[13:55] <Ronnie> daker: cjohnston. OK :D
[13:55] <cjohnston> :-)
[14:00] <daker> cjohnston, see i got the cloak ツ
[14:00] <cjohnston> yay
[14:00] <Pendulum> daker: congrats :)
[14:01] <daker> i changed my lpid, because i want daker@ ツ
[14:01] <cjohnston> Ronnie: where did the merge go for member sorting?
[14:01] <czajkowski> dear inbox please shrink! 
[14:01] <daker> Pendulum, Woo thanks
[14:01] <cjohnston> oh.. your doing multiple bugs on it now
[14:02] <Ronnie> cjohnston: i added the other bug, because i needed some new code of that bug
[14:02] <Ronnie> else it would cause a conflict when merging both
[14:02] <cjohnston> gotcha
[14:02] <Ronnie> i needed also the team instance in the teamform
[14:02] <cjohnston> dont add anything else to it please, im gonna do a final review
[14:03] <Ronnie> ok
[14:03]  * daker is preparing some fixes for the planet
[14:03] <cjohnston> daker: what type of fixes
[14:03] <Ronnie> when that one is merged, i start including the code for the logs (need also the same base)
[14:04] <czajkowski> nooo the planet is fixed
[14:04] <czajkowski> it was fixed tihs morning 
[14:04] <czajkowski> and they are looking into the text over the border later on
[14:05] <daker> cjohnston, czajkowski if you the post "Hebrew and Arabic on track"
[14:06] <daker> see the pictures
[14:06] <czajkowski> ahh that's specfic to Hebrew
[14:06] <czajkowski> but there are developers working on planet today fixiung stuff 
[14:10] <HakanS> We are having an irc-meeting today. How do I fix so that the meeting-channel is logged on irclogs.ubuntu.com?
[14:12] <czajkowski> HakanS: well you can get the bot added or use mootbot to log the meeting 
[14:13] <HakanS> czajkowski: But how do I do it?
[14:15] <Ronnie> HakanS: i think you have to ask AlanBell, but hes not here in the channel right now
[14:16] <Ronnie> daker, congrats with your membership (Y)
[14:16] <HakanS> Ronnie: Thanks
[14:16] <czajkowski> HakanS: which one do you want, mootbot just for the meeting, or the logging bot in general, which team is this ?
[14:19] <HakanS> czajkowski: I think we need both. It's the swedish team. We have a separate meeting chanel (#ubuntu-se-mote).
[14:21] <daker> Ronnie, thank you
[14:29] <Ronnie> daker, cjohnston: a small usability issue. when the log url = http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/01/04/%23ubuntu-nl.html#t16:00  but there is no message at 16:00 the anchor does not work
[14:31] <cjohnston> hmm
[14:32] <cjohnston> Post that to the bug report.. but i think that may be something we have to deal with
[14:32] <czajkowski> jussi: ping 
[14:33] <cjohnston> ya.. yell at mr irc to get that working
[14:33] <cjohnston> lol
[14:33] <czajkowski> jussi: could you talk to HakanS re bot please heading to a meeting 
[14:33] <czajkowski> cjohnston: no mor elike I'm at work and up the walls :d
[14:34] <cjohnston> lol
[14:34] <nigelb> jussi: poke?
[14:34] <nigelb> jussi: Can I PM?
[14:34] <cjohnston> all of a sudden everyone wants juliux 
[14:35] <cjohnston> jussi: 
[14:35] <cjohnston> sorry juliux 
[14:35] <cjohnston> It looks like to get the logging bot you have to contact rt
[14:36] <czajkowski> HakanS: I'll be back in an hour or so and can help then nbut I've to head to a meeting
[14:40] <HakanS> czajkowski: Thanks. I have to logout soon. Will be back at 17:10 UTC. Is it OK for you?
[14:40] <cjohnston> Ronnie: every time i login after import-live-data i become chrisjohnston2
[14:42] <Ronnie> cjohnston: does there exists already an chrisjohnston ?
[14:42] <Ronnie> after executing the live-import command>
[14:43] <cjohnston> i would assume as much from the import
[14:52] <cjohnston> new bug #697693
[14:52] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 697693 in loco-directory "Error when copying meeting (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/697693
[14:54] <Ronnie> cjohnston: ill have a look at it. looks like my code gives it
[15:30] <HakanS> Just testing
[15:32] <cjohnston> daker: I commented on one of your merge requests.. if you have a few minutes to make the modification, I can test it real quick and get it in
[15:33] <daker> cjohnston, sure
[15:38] <cjohnston> I think it will be an easy fix
[15:40] <daker> yeah
[15:47] <czajkowski> HakanS: did you get sorted and file a RT ?
[15:51] <daker> cjohnston, could you check now 
[15:51] <daker> https://code.launchpad.net/~daker/loco-directory/fix.681984/+merge/45088
[15:51] <cjohnston> ok
[15:52] <Ronnie> cjohnston: https://code.launchpad.net/~ronnie.vd.c/loco-directory/686267/+merge/45251
[15:54] <cjohnston> daker: reviewed.. commented
[15:54] <cjohnston> Ronnie: ok.. ill look in a bit
[15:57] <daker> cjohnston, pull ツ
[15:57] <daker> it should work now
[15:57] <HakanS> czajkowski: What do you mean with RT? 
[15:57] <cjohnston> HakanS: you have to send a request to rt@ubuntu.com for logging
[16:01] <czajkowski> HakanS: RT is the request ticket system used to send requests to sys admins in canonical to get things done. So you need to send one to request the bot be added to your team channel
[16:18] <cjohnston> dholbach: !
[16:18] <czajkowski> cjohnston: he';s in mumble land meeting 
[16:19] <dholbach> I'm in mumble land meeting
[16:19]  * dholbach hugs czajkowski
[16:19] <cjohnston> lol
[16:19] <czajkowski> *grin*
[16:19]  * czajkowski hugs dholbach 
[16:19] <dholbach> oops
[16:21] <nigelb> cjohnston: how do I schedule someting in summit?
[16:21] <cjohnston> the admin interface
[16:21] <nigelb> I created a summit, a meeting, a room, and a slot
[16:21] <nigelb> how do I put a meeting into a slot
[16:21] <cjohnston> umm...
[16:21] <cjohnston> crap
[16:21] <czajkowski> dholbach: you give me a hug and you say oops, charming :p
[16:21] <cjohnston> how do you do that
[16:21] <cjohnston> lol czajkowski 
[16:22] <cjohnston> nigelb: i think its in slots
[16:22] <dholbach> czajkowski, no, I hit ctrl-w unintentionally (or rather in the wrong window)
[16:22] <czajkowski> :)
[16:22] <nigelb> cjohnston: slot only says that these are the times that things can be scheduled.
[16:23] <cjohnston> uggh
[16:23] <kinouchou> vi
[16:23] <kinouchou> oups
[16:23] <cjohnston> vim
[16:23] <cjohnston> voops?
[16:24] <kinouchou> sorry
[16:24] <cjohnston> :-)
[16:24] <nigelb> hah
[16:24] <nigelb> wrong terminal ;)
[16:24] <kinouchou> yes
[16:24] <cjohnston> and then I started messing with you :-)
[16:24] <kinouchou> I don't use vi but emacs
[16:24] <nigelb> that's a bigger oops that all of the above :P
[16:25] <cjohnston> czajkowski: going to disney this saturday
[16:26] <czajkowski> cjohnston: No....
[16:26] <cjohnston> yes
[16:27] <kinouchou> it's cold to go to ddisney
[16:28] <cjohnston> the high on saturday is 67
[16:29] <nigelb> cjohnston: the summit schedule is generated from the ical using js? o.O
[16:30] <cjohnston> nigelb: so much for you to learn
[16:30] <cjohnston> lol
[16:30] <nigelb> either that, or I'm bad at reading django template
[16:30] <cjohnston> there is a gui for doing it 
[16:30] <cjohnston> or do the backend
[16:30] <cjohnston> i havent been able to get the gui to play nice
[16:31] <nigelb> ok, I got it to work :D
[16:32] <cjohnston> nigel its agenda item
[16:32] <nigelb> now I have something scheduled
[16:33] <nigelb> the problem is I can't figure out where the code is that displays the schedule :/
[16:33] <cjohnston> ya.. but i went through and had to download it
[16:33] <cjohnston> that displays the daily schedule
[16:33] <cjohnston> or the track schedule
[16:33] <cjohnston> or
[16:35] <nigelb> cjohnston: there is some js magic which I'm missing altogether
[16:35] <cjohnston> i think your talking about the gui scheduler
[16:36] <nigelb> I'm looking at http://127.0.0.1:8000/uds-o/2011-02-14/
[16:36] <nigelb> and schedule.html.
[16:36] <nigelb> I can't figure out where the schedule is coming from :|
[16:37] <HakanS>  czajkowski: Thanks
[16:38] <cjohnston> schedule templates schedule
[16:38] <cjohnston> schedule.html
[16:38] <nigelb> I am looking at schedule.html
[16:39] <cjohnston> im pretty sure thats the page
[16:39] <nigelb> hrm
[16:39] <czajkowski> HakanS: np
[16:40] <cjohnston> is there something in specific you are looking for
[16:40] <czajkowski> isn't this Daviey area?
[16:40] <cjohnston> ya
[16:40] <czajkowski> so poke him :) 
[16:40] <cjohnston> you just did
[16:41] <nigelb> cjohnston: trying to figure out where the meeting name is comign from so I can add the icecast url
[16:41] <cjohnston> I poked him the other day and he ignored me
[16:42] <czajkowski> cjohnston: holidays or working :) 
[16:42] <czajkowski> tis a working day for him 
[16:42] <cjohnston> I know
[16:42] <cjohnston> its been a while since ive seen him
[16:43] <cjohnston> schedule.room.track.title
[16:44] <nigelb> hrm, no
[16:45] <nigelb> what does schedule.debug do?
[16:46] <cjohnston> dunnop
[16:46] <nigelb> ok, if I remove it, the schedule stops getting displayed
[16:47] <nigelb> so I guess that's the one.
[16:49] <Ronnie> cjohnston: error of copy is fixed: https://code.launchpad.net/~ronnie.vd.c/loco-directory/697693/+merge/45263
[16:49] <Ronnie> it was just 1 line of code
[16:54] <czajkowski> cjohnston: aye well I guess Christmas, sprints and work kinda kicks in so less free time but he's online in other working channels or I find mailing him works :)
[16:55] <cjohnston> k
[16:56] <cjohnston> nigelb: schedule models topicmodel.py - i believe its Topic.title
[16:57] <nigelb> cjohnston: I got whats happening
[16:57] <nigelb> cjohnston: there is a render.py 
[16:57] <cjohnston> ok
[16:57] <nigelb> inside that there is a debug function which calls the as_html function
[16:58] <nigelb> that's where the schedule's printed from
[16:58] <nigelb> now I only need to figure out the flow of that code.
[16:58] <cjohnston> long as your happy im happy
[16:58] <nigelb> hah
[17:00]  * nigelb facepalm
[17:00] <nigelb> cjohnston: that bug is already fixed.
[17:00] <nigelb> We're just not using that fix.
[17:00] <nigelb> the icecast field is always blank.
[17:01] <nigelb> err, probably always left blank.
[17:01] <nigelb> cjohnston: do you want to add a link there called Audio and add the ice cast url to every session? (a bit of overkill in my opinion)
[17:06] <Ronnie> daker, do you have some time to test one branch of mine: https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+bug/570613
[17:06] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 570613 in loco-directory "Show map of events (affects: 9) (heat: 38)" [High,In progress]
[17:15] <daker> Ronnie, i'll do it once at home ツ
[17:15] <Ronnie> daker, thx
[17:32] <nigelb> Daviey: If it is you that worked on the scheduling bit of summit.  I bow to you.  Its simply splendid.
[17:32] <nigelb> Took me 2 hours of reading code to figure out where to read.
[17:34] <Ronnie> mhall119: ping
[19:15] <TrickyJ> Ronnie: Hi buddy
[19:16] <Ronnie> evening TrickyJ
[19:47] <Ronnie> nhandler, jono: what is the status of lernid, i heard it quitted?
[19:48] <daker> Ronnie, can you give the bug id ? 
[19:48] <Ronnie> daker:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+bug/570613
[19:48] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 570613 in loco-directory "Show map of events (affects: 9) (heat: 38)" [High,In progress]
[19:48] <daker> Ronnie, ok
[19:48] <Ronnie> the HMTL/CSS needs a lot of tweaking (not my speciallity), but i want to know if the code works
[19:49] <Ronnie> if you like, you may improve the HTML/CSS part
[19:49] <daker> ok ツ
[19:51] <pleia2> Ronnie: yeah, lernid is pretty much dead
[19:52] <pleia2> we don't recommended it to people anymore
[19:52] <paultag> +1 there.
[19:52] <paultag> damn shame.
[19:52] <Ronnie> pleia2: a small dutch group is starting to develop an online 'learnid' because its a great tool. 
[19:52] <pleia2> cool, the main problem was lack of vision and developers, the bugs just keep piling up
[19:52] <Ronnie> but i think we could use some experience
[19:53] <pleia2> I think nhandler joined the dev team just to fix some critical bugs to keep it limping
[19:53] <pleia2> but without a solid leader of the project who is putting the effort in, there isn't much hope, and it's almost unusuable in 10.10 AFAIK
[19:54] <Ronnie> pleia2: we want to start a 'website' version
[19:54] <pleia2> sounds neat :)
[19:54] <Ronnie> but i dont know at the moment if the open web protocols can handle all stuff
[19:55] <paultag> sure can Ronnie 
[19:55] <paultag> Ronnie: use reverse ajax long polling
[19:55] <paultag> Ronnie: that way you can wait on events and not slaughter the server
[19:55] <paultag> Ronnie: it's like an HTTP socket, kinda
[19:55] <Ronnie> i think there is a lot of knowledge is within the learnid team about giving lessons, and whats needed
[19:55] <nigelb> omg
[19:55] <nigelb> paultag is back
[19:55] <paultag> nigelb: :)
[19:56] <paultag> nigelb: howdy, friend!
[19:56] <nigelb> paultag: good to see ya back :)
[19:56] <Ronnie> paultag: i know long polling (and the upcoming websockets :D)
[19:56] <paultag> nigelb: I was in the middle of the woods, I checked email :)
[19:56] <paultag> Ronnie: :)
[19:56] <nigelb> paultag: heh :)
[19:56] <paultag> Ronnie: use it up right ;) -- it'll help with "events" for the session
[19:57] <Ronnie> but what about some kind of desktop sharing/ terminal sharing ideaś
[19:57] <pleia2> for the terminal app I might suggest doing it in a chroot server side
[19:57] <paultag> Ronnie: desktop sharing will be harder, but you can do terminal sharing with long-poll. Just have each client long poll the wait, with a timestamp, and the teacher have an AJAX-driven client
[19:57] <Ronnie> hmm do not have to knowledge for chroot
[19:57] <paultag> Ronnie: so it pushes the shell. But pleia2 is right. Screen + chroot is the best
[19:59] <pleia2> Ronnie: chroots are easier than they sound :) it just sets the root to a different location, so you have a /UbuntuMaverick/ directory or something with a full install of 10.10 in it, and set the user environment to use that as the root (or CHange ROOT)
[19:59] <YoBoY> JanC: ping 
[19:59] <Ronnie> atm i think the team cant handle all this stuff :(
[20:01] <YoBoY> I missed the reminder for the december team reports ?
[20:02] <Ronnie> im thinking of what server software we could use best
[20:02] <pleia2> YoBoY: you still have time to do it :)
[20:03] <YoBoY> pleia2: yes I try to write it for the end of the week
[20:04] <Ronnie> is there here someone who has given multiple classes, and know what features the standard irc classes misses?
[20:04] <pleia2> misses?
[20:05] <pleia2> the irc classes actually work pretty well as they are, most instructors don't even bother with slides or other tools
[20:05] <Ronnie> what are the shortcomings of irc-classes ?  the ability to share terminal, show a slideshow
[20:05] <Ronnie> etc
[20:07] <Ronnie> im not experienced in giving classes, so i dont know what are desirable features
[20:15] <pleia2> aside from space to host files (images and such to be used during the presentation), we don't really get requests for additional things in classes
[20:17] <Ronnie> pleia2: thx for the info :D
[20:25] <czajkowski> Anyone going to FOSDEM please add your info to the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fosdem/2011
[20:37] <YoBoY> czajkowski: thanks I have french volunteers for the booth :)
[20:38] <czajkowski> YoBoY: fantastic can you get them to add their name to the wiki :) thanks we need help to spread out the time needed there 
[20:39] <YoBoY> czajkowski: already fwd the link to them ;
[20:39] <czajkowski> YoBoY: Thank you!
[20:40] <YoBoY> we can bring some goodies to seel
[20:40] <YoBoY> sell
[20:40] <czajkowski> YoBoY: even better! 
[20:44] <YoBoY> if you need official liveCDs also...
[20:45] <czajkowski> we always run short so if you have any spare that would be fantastic 
[20:46] <Ronnie> daker, i still got this issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+bug/610092
[20:46] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 610092 in loco-directory "Issues with LD and Maverick's jquery (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Medium,Fix committed]
[20:46] <Ronnie> do you use maverick, and havent this issue?
[20:47] <daker> Ronnie, at work i use maverick, i am not sure
[20:47] <Ronnie> for me the issue is still present
[20:47] <daker> i need to check it tomorrow
[20:48] <YoBoY> czajkowski: we always have spare, the people here like our localized edition :p
[20:49] <daker> Ronnie, daker@daker-desktop:/usr/share/javascript$ ls
[20:49] <daker> jquery  jquery-ui  mootools
[20:50] <daker> Ronnie, coud you check if those folders exists
[20:50] <Ronnie> yea, they exists
[20:50] <daker> Ronnie, cd jquery
[20:50] <daker> then ls
[20:50] <Ronnie> jquery.js  jquery.lite.js  jquery.min.js  jquery.pack.js
[20:51] <daker> the paths are ok
[20:51] <daker> i think it's just a compatibility problem
[20:52] <daker> between jquery & jquery-ui
[20:52] <Ronnie> could be, i have looked into it for a few minutes, but could not find were it got wrong
[20:54] <daker> in lucid i got jQuery 1.3.2 & jQuery UI 1.7.2
[20:54] <daker> Ronnie, could you check in maverick ?
[20:54] <Ronnie>  version 1.8 of ui
[20:55] <Ronnie> 1.4.2 of jquery
[20:56] <daker> Ronnie, when you try to add an event is the datepicker working for you in maverick
[20:57] <daker> if not try to look at the error on the console of your browser
[20:57] <Ronnie> the first datepicker works (style does not) the timepicker gives an error in firebug
[20:57] <daker> paste it
[20:58] <Ronnie> $.widget.prototype._trigger is undefined
[20:58] <daker> it's the same error on the bug report
[20:59] <Ronnie> daker: any idea why the 'trigger' focus is needed?
[20:59] <daker> no
[20:59] <daker> i need to investigate
[21:00] <Ronnie> hmm deleting that part wont work :(
[21:15] <Ronnie> daker: there are multiple versions of jquery timepicker (no official ones). do you know whichone we use?
[21:27] <daker> Ronnie, no :s
[21:29] <Ronnie> daker: ok ;). do you have already some comments on the google map? (if not, take your time :))
[21:30] <czajkowski> kinouchou: aloha 
[21:30] <kinouchou> hello czajkowski 
[21:31] <czajkowski> kinouchou: looking forward to fosdem 
[21:32] <kinouchou> I don't receive the mail :(
[21:33] <czajkowski> oh odd 
[21:34] <czajkowski> kinouchou: mailed locoteams and um... Ubuntu Women, are you not on either of those lists? 
[21:34] <czajkowski> I mailed them only today 
[21:34] <kinouchou> no
[21:34] <YoBoY> kinouchou: it's just the link i gave on our chan earlier
[21:34] <YoBoY> you already are added on the wiki page ;)
[21:34] <kinouchou> vincent-xavier sent a mail for fosdem
[21:35] <czajkowski> kinouchou: well team contacts are to pass on the info which is what YoBoY did 
[21:38] <daker> Ronnie, my machine is very slow (512Mb)
[21:47] <daker> Ronnie, sorry what do you mean but no official one ?
[21:48] <Ronnie> there is no timepicker from the developers of jquery/jquery-ui itself
[21:48] <daker> jquery ui => http://jqueryui.com/
[21:48] <Ronnie> all the versions are from indempendant develiopers
[21:48] <daker> ah ok
[21:48] <Ronnie> jqueryui does include a datepicker, but not the timepicker
[21:48] <Ronnie> the timepicker version could be outdated
[21:49] <Ronnie> but i dont know where to find the source
[21:49] <Ronnie> i know at least 2 different versions
[21:49] <Ronnie> in the js file on the bzr branch, i cannot get usefull information
[21:49] <daker> Ronnie, maybe we should ask dholbach or mhall119 
[21:51] <Ronnie> oke
[21:52] <daker> Ronnie, the problem is with the datepicker or the timepicker ?
[21:52] <Ronnie> the timepicker gives the error
[21:53] <Ronnie> but i also got no css for the datepicker, but i guess thats a different issue
[21:53] <Ronnie> but could be caused by the timepicker itself
[21:53] <daker> i think no css is caused by the error
[21:56] <Ronnie> daker: the css problem: <link href="/media/jquery-ui/css/css/smoothness/jquery-ui.css" type="text/css" media="all" rel="stylesheet" />
[21:56] <Ronnie> that file does not exists
[21:57] <Ronnie> it has a double ' css' in it
[21:58] <daker> what do you mean ?
[21:58] <daker> Ronnie, cd /usr/share/javascript/jquery-ui/css
[21:58] <daker> then ls
[21:58] <Ronnie> the link jquery-ui/css/css/....
[21:59] <daker> ah
[21:59] <Ronnie> if i delete one of the 'css'  it works
[21:59] <daker> just the style not the timepicker, right ?
[22:00] <Ronnie> the timepicker css i dont know because the javascript fails
[22:00] <Ronnie> for the datepicker the css fails
[22:00] <daker> ok
[22:00] <Ronnie> ill have a look where the css link is inserted
[22:01] <daker> so the problem is the compatibility between the jquery ui and the actual timepicker
[22:02] <Ronnie> daker: indeed
[22:04] <daker> Ronnie, got it
[22:04] <daker> - the time picker is provided by Maxime Haineault.  See http://haineault.com/media/jquery/ui-timepickr/page/ for more information about the JQuery UI Timepicker.
[22:04] <daker> there is a file called "EXTRENALS"
[22:05] <daker> Ronnie, try dl the last version then test
[22:06] <Ronnie> daker: thx, ill have a look
[22:11] <Ronnie> daker: http://code.google.com/p/jquery-utils/issues/detail?id=53
[22:20] <nhandler> Ronnie: Keep in mind, a lot of the features that Lernid was originally designed to help with have been incorporated into ClassBot. This is useful because it means that our session leaders and participants aren't required to use some site/software to follow along (which was a bit of an issue at first when lernid first added support for pdf slideshows)
[22:23] <Ronnie> nhandler: how is the usability for giving classrooms for teachers who do not have good 'irc' skills?
[22:25] <nhandler> Ronnie: They don't need to know anything advanced about IRC. Just enough to set their name, join #ubuntu-classroom, and send messages to the channel. So I would say it is about as usable as it will get (we even have links to the freenode webchat that people can use to help with the first two tasks)
[22:26] <Ronnie> daker: trying the solution provided on the page, and using the trunk version wont help either :(
[22:26] <daker> :s
[22:27] <Ronnie> maybe we should discuss another timepicker. there are very good alternatives
[22:27] <Ronnie> even datepicker, with timepicker included
[22:27] <nhandler> Ronnie: Instead of incorporating many new features into the tool, a better approach might be to simply use it as an alternate interface to some of the existing tools. For example, it could include a nice interface for interacting with ClassBot to process questions. It also might be better to move somewhere (either PM or #ubuntu-classroom-backstage) to discuss this further. We are a bit OT in here
[22:32] <Ronnie> nhandler: indeed OT, i will discuss this in backstage in the future
[22:54] <czajkowski> JanC: Have you ordered the conference pack for FOSDEM ?
[23:54] <JanC> czajkowski: yes
[23:54] <JanC> also, the banner shoul have arrived by then too