[00:06] <shadowchaser> hello all once again I come to the forum for help with unbuntu can any one help?
[01:10] <reya276> How can I fix my update manager so that it stops telling me that my repositories are out of sync?
[01:30] <maxolasersquad_h> sudo aptitude update ?
[01:31] <maxolasersquad_h> reya276: ^^
[01:31] <reya276> no it keeps failing
[01:31] <maxolasersquad_h> If that doesn't do it, post the exact error message.
[01:31] <reya276> let me pastebin  the output one sec
[01:31] <maxolasersquad_h> k
[01:32] <reya276> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/550455/
[01:34] <maxolasersquad_h> Try to browse to http://extras.ubuntu.com/
[01:36] <maxolasersquad_h> Also, see if you can get to http://ppa.launchpad.net/
[01:37] <maxolasersquad_h> My guess is that you either have a DNS or routing issue with your ISP.
[01:37] <maxolasersquad_h> Could be a firewall or host issue as well.
[01:38] <reya276> I can get to the first URL and the second one too
[01:39] <reya276> they both work from the browser
[01:39] <maxolasersquad_h> Can you view http://ppa.launchpad.net/am-monkeyd/nautilus-elementary-ppa/ubuntu/dists/maverick/Release.gpg
[01:42] <reya276> yes
[01:42] <maxolasersquad_h> Open up Synaptic and then click on Settings->Preferences.
[01:42] <maxolasersquad_h> Make sure, in the Network tab, you have "Direction connection to the internet" clicked.
[01:43] <maxolasersquad_h> s/Direction/Direct
[01:43] <reya276> yes that is setup that way
[01:44] <maxolasersquad_h> Something weird is happening.  Apt is reporting that it cannot resolve ppa.ubuntu.com and cannot resolve extras.ubuntu.com
[01:44] <reya276> right
[01:44] <maxolasersquad_h> But Ubuntu can clearly resolve them, as you have demonstrated.
[01:45] <reya276> How about where it says "Reloading outdated package information"? in the general tab. right now is set to Always Ask
[01:46] <maxolasersquad_h> That's how mine is set as well.
[01:48] <reya276> see now I got this error
[01:48] <reya276> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving 'archive.canonical.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[01:49] <maxolasersquad_h> Are you getting the errors with ppa.ubuntu.com and extras.ubuntu.com this time?
[01:49] <reya276> is like they are different errors, if its not the extras then is the archive
[01:50] <reya276> no this time is the archive.canonical.com
[01:50] <maxolasersquad_h> It could just be that those servers are having issues then.
[01:50] <maxolasersquad_h> It may not be anything to be concerned about on your end.
[01:51] <reya276> no now I got a different error of a PPA I just added and I know that it is working correctly
[01:51] <reya276> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/dists/maverick/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving 'ppa.launchpad.net:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[01:52] <reya276> is like somehow they change all the time, so something has got to be wrong
[01:53] <reya276> and is not my ISP because I can access all sites everywhere
[01:53] <maxolasersquad_h> I believe it is a problem with the servers hosting ppa.ubuntu.com 
[01:53] <reya276> let me check my wireless router firewall
[01:54] <maxolasersquad_h> They are only responding sporadically to your requests.
[01:55] <maxolasersquad_h> I'm not sure how they are setup, but if it's colocationed, the ones you are hitting could be getting taxed right now, and you are only able to get in sporadically.
[01:59] <maxolasersquad_h> Try again tomorrow and see if you still have the problem.
[02:00] <maxolasersquad_h> You could also try using another DNS provider, such as OpenDNS or Google's DNS.
[02:00] <reya276> how can I get my DSN address
[02:00] <reya276> the one from my ISP?
[02:00] <maxolasersquad_h> You are using a router, right?
[02:01] <reya276> yes
[02:01] <maxolasersquad_h> You should be able to set your DNS in your router settings.
[02:01] <maxolasersquad_h> Google has 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[02:01] <reya276> well right now is in dynamic
[02:02] <maxolasersquad_h> There should be a way to manually specify your DNS servers.
[02:03] <reya276> there is but I don't know what those are
[02:03] <maxolasersquad_h> What is your make/model of your router?
[02:04] <reya276> I let the ISP provide them automatically through my Wireless router
[02:04] <reya276> Belkin N router
[02:04] <reya276> I tried doing ifconfig but got nothing back
[02:05] <reya276> I should be able to get a DNS from an IP address right
[02:05] <maxolasersquad_h> In your web browser, go to 192.168.2.1
[02:09] <reya276> oh I know how to get to the router admin as I'm in there right now
[02:09] <reya276> I got my ip address which is 75.74.67.197
[02:10] <reya276> but I can't get the DNS for it
[02:11] <maxolasersquad_h> There's not place to manually configure your DNS?
[02:12] <maxolasersquad_h> On my Zyxel it is in the LAN section.
[02:13] <reya276> yes there is
[02:13] <reya276> but I don't know what the DNS is, I only know what the IP address is
[02:13] <maxolasersquad_h> Ok, put them there.
[02:14] <maxolasersquad_h> The DNS should be 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[02:14] <reya276> but I don't know the DNS
[02:14] <maxolasersquad_h> There's usually a place to put a primary and a secondary DNS server.
[02:14] <reya276> I'm trying to figure out what they are from my IP address
[02:14] <maxolasersquad_h> Can you post a screenshot of the configuration screen.
[02:21] <Chloric> evening guys
[02:21] <Chloric> its been like a monath
[02:23] <Chloric> hey itnet and roaxsoax
[02:23] <reya276> ah ok I got what you were saying, I used the 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 and it works
[02:23] <reya276> so now let me try and update
[02:24] <reya276> yeap no errors at all
[02:24] <maxolasersquad_h> Saweet!
[02:24] <maxolasersquad_h> ISP DNS FTL!
[02:25] <reya276> cool, thanks
[02:26] <reya276> oh one thing, I was able to add the repository for the krita 2.3 but it says it will install Mysql-server-core-5.1 for a graphics program?
[02:34] <reya276> will this slowdown my PC?
[02:38] <reya276> ok this is weird I install Krita 2.3 but I don't see an entry in the Applications Menu
[03:00] <reya276> hey what do I need to install so that I can get the look of KDE Default theme cause Krita looks horrible
[03:00] <reya276> oh and that DNS fix made my internet access faster wow
[04:05] <maxolasersquad_h> reya276: I'm glad to hear that Google's DNS is giving you faster browsing.
[04:05] <maxolasersquad_h> ISPs have a pretty strong reputation of providing horrible DNS servers.
[04:05] <reya276> yeap
[04:06] <reya276> hey how can I get the Krita to look the same as in KDE but in Gnome
[04:07] <reya276> Krita looks horrible for some reason
[04:07] <reya276> like I'm missing the QT4 widgets or something
[04:12] <maxolasersquad_h> I don't know.
[04:13] <reya276> for some reason it feels like is missing something like the theme looks all weird, maybe I'm missing a pacakge(s) or something
[04:13] <maxolasersquad_h> The only KDE app I run is KolourPaint, and it looks fine in Gnome.
[04:14] <reya276> like it does not look like this http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_D1EpnOVJuA8/TJ8sbzChNtI/AAAAAAAADMo/dmJ9bO6q6LE/s1600/krita02.png
[04:15] <maxolasersquad_h> KolourPaint is giving me the Gnome decorations.
[04:15] <maxolasersquad_h> The minimize/maximize, etc. buttons are on the top-left.  Everything else looks like a regular KDE app.
[04:17] <reya276> right at work it looks like that too but not here
[04:40] <maxolasersquad_h> gidimanunaki: What does the gidi part mean in your handle?
[04:40] <gidimanunaki> Well, the gidim part loosely translates to "ghost" or "spirit".
[04:41] <maxolasersquad_h> Gotcha.  Cool.
[04:41] <gidimanunaki> The rest is easily guessed, but does not translate to "lost native tribe".
[04:41] <maxolasersquad_h> I'm familiar with the Anunaki deal.
[04:42] <gidimanunaki> Pretty rare. Not many people take an interest in old Sumerian.
[04:42] <reya276> see it looks weird http://img205.imageshack.us/i/ubuntukrita23.png/
[04:43] <maxolasersquad_h> It ties in with a lot of mythology, Judaism, muslim, conspiracy theories, greys, etc.
[04:48] <maxolasersquad_h> I find such things fun and interesting, and read up on those subjects from time to time.
[04:50] <gidimanunaki> I can out-geek you there. I've been reading up on this for a few days: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knuth_-yllion#Myriad_system
[04:52] <maxolasersquad_h> Isn't one of those powers supposed to be a googleplex?
[04:53] <gidimanunaki> Eventually. But I was sticking to the -yllions.
[04:54] <maxolasersquad_h> Or whatever number Google is named after.
[04:54] <gidimanunaki> 10^100.
[04:54] <gidimanunaki> Googolplex is 10^(10^100)
[04:55] <maxolasersquad_h> Yeah.
[04:56] <maxolasersquad_h> My two claims to nerddem is being able to recite pi to 20 decimal places, powers of two up to 2^12 off memory.
[04:57] <gidimanunaki> Just 2^12?
[04:57] <maxolasersquad_h> Though, being able to count by powers of two has actual practical application.
[04:57] <gidimanunaki> I only ever memorized Pi to 10 places.
[04:57] <gidimanunaki> I used to count by powers of 2 or 10 or random others when I was a kid. It was my form of fun.
[04:58] <maxolasersquad_h> After 4096 I have to start actually calculating the numbers.  2^12 will get you where you need to 95% of the time.
[04:59] <gidimanunaki> 8192, 16384,32768,65536,131072,262144,524288,1048576,2097152... I forget. I used to know further much faster.
[05:00] <maxolasersquad_h> I'm always surprised at how few programmers immediately know the significance of 32767.
[05:00] <gidimanunaki> 4194304,8388608,16777216,33554432... okay, that's it.
[05:00] <gidimanunaki> lol
[05:00] <gidimanunaki> It's the end of 32-bit?
[05:03] <maxolasersquad_h> It is hex FF in decimal
[05:03] <maxolasersquad_h> Er, FFFF
[05:03] <gidimanunaki> Yep.
[05:04] <maxolasersquad_h> Which is why, in so many languages, it is the limit of what a variable can hold.
[05:10] <gidimanunaki> It's hard to reconcile binary with a myriad system though.
[05:12] <maxolasersquad_h> I once read a book, like fifteen or more years ago (I'm 30) on how computers do complex math in binary.  It was pretty interesting, but way beyond anything I cared to commit to memory.
[05:12] <maxolasersquad_h> It was pretty interesting though.  Doing powers and stuff is pretty easy if you know the tricks.
[05:12] <gidimanunaki> Yeah, I've done math in binary.
[05:13] <gidimanunaki> But that myriad system, what struck me as fascinating, was that each order of magnitude up is the square of the one below it.
[05:15] <maxolasersquad_h> What is the pattern?  I see that there are powers of 1-8, then after that there is pattern, but I cannot nail down exactly what it is.
[05:16] <gidimanunaki> I spend the last few days doing the powers, from 10^1 to 10^256.
[05:16] <gidimanunaki> The pattern gets easier as you practice.
[05:17] <gidimanunaki> http://westwood.fortunecity.com/hermes/490/yllion.txt
[05:17] <gidimanunaki> Make that 10^512.
[05:19] <gidimanunaki> You just follow the pattern up. Myllion, ten myllion, hundred myllion, ten hundred myllion, myriad myllion... etc.
[05:19] <gidimanunaki> Then a myllion myllion is a byllion.
[05:21] <maxolasersquad_h> So it's a naming convention for counting really large numbers?
[05:21] <gidimanunaki> Yep. The best part being that each next one up is the square of the previous. So you can logically count much higher numbers with less words.
[05:21] <gidimanunaki> Well. Less new words.
[05:22] <maxolasersquad_h> I see
[05:22] <gidimanunaki> Since a standard Billion is 10^9, but that Byllion is 10^16.
[05:23] <maxolasersquad_h> Well, here's my latest obsession: http://www.openstreetmap.org/
[05:24] <maxolasersquad_h> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=30.405862&lon=-84.219353&zoom=19
[05:24] <gidimanunaki> Interesting.
[05:25] <maxolasersquad_h> I've been working on http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=30.39777&lon=-84.2194&zoom=15&layers=M for a few months now.
[05:26] <gidimanunaki> Wow. That's nice.
[05:28] <maxolasersquad_h> Thanks
[14:21] <reya276> Morning Everyone
[14:33] <reya276> ok guys who wants to take on a Hard Drive issue this Morning?
[14:34] <reya276> KDE 4.5.1 is Amazing, true beauty on a screen
[14:35] <reya276> I installed that bad boy last night at home along with Krita and is short of just awesome
[15:04] <reya276> so no one wants to take on the challenge of getting this external HD working with Ubuntu
[15:16] <reya276> booh hoooh
[15:19] <maxolasersquad> reya276: I'll take on the HD if you will take on the invoice validation I'm working on. ;)
[15:19] <reya276> LOL
[15:19] <reya276> sounds like fun, what language are you using to build it
[15:41] <maxolasersquad> PL/SQL
[15:42] <maxolasersquad> We've been rewriting our inventory, invoicing, and billing system for about a year now.  It has to be ready by the end of February.
[15:46] <reya276> so you guys are using Oracle?
[15:46] <reya276> or Perl + SQL
[15:47] <maxolasersquad> Oracle and PHP
[16:01] <reya276> good combination
[16:01] <reya276> how is the DB performance?
[16:14] <maxolasersquad> Very good.
[16:15] <maxolasersquad> Performance-wise, I'm very happy with Oracle's database.
[16:17] <RoAkSoAx> win 4
[16:46] <zoopster> mhall119: you around?
[18:28] <dantalizing> morning
[19:16] <DammitJim> afternoon
[19:16] <DammitJim> hey guys, can someone recommend a good bluetooth headset?
[19:16] <DammitJim> I have the S9 from Motorola, but I'd like something more comfortable for the office
[19:37] <ShawnR> jawbone
[19:37] <ShawnR> i wont use anything else
[19:37] <maxolasersquad> Can anyone recommend a good git gui aside from gitk or gitg?
[19:38] <ShawnR> DammitJim: ppl ask me why my phone sounds crappy when i use any other bt headset
[19:47] <itnet7> dantalizing: pm?
[19:54] <reya276> hey can one of you guys help me out real quick
[19:55] <DammitJim> jawbone?
[19:56] <DammitJim> I just bought the S305
[19:56] <DammitJim> ShawnR, jawbone... model?
[20:05] <dorgan> hello all
[20:05] <dantalizing> 'sup dorgan 
[20:05] <dorgan> nm
[20:06] <dorgan> ...how were your holidays
[20:06] <dantalizing> we spent december in india, so my holidays were relaxed.... yours?
[20:07] <dorgan> yeah mine were relaxed as well...I dont have any family down here....they all live in NY...and my wife just has her parents
[20:07] <dorgan> i did have a google cr48 show up on my doorstep the day before christmas eve...so that was an early present
[20:08] <dantalizing> nice
[20:08] <dantalizing> its too late to request one of those, right?
[20:09] <dorgan> i dont think so
[20:09] <dorgan> i dont think they've sent our 60,000 yet
[20:15] <maxolasersquad> I thought 12-21-2010 was the last day to request one.
[20:22] <dantalizing> i thought so too maxolasersquad 
[20:23] <itnet7> I haven't received one yet :-(
[20:23] <itnet7> I think the deadline to request is passed, but I have the link, let me see if it redirects you
[20:27] <ShawnR> DammitJim: i have the jawbone icon, it is the third jawbone i've had (i drive around town all day and use them EVERY DAY for work, all day long)
[20:28] <DammitJim> I'm sorry... I meant headphones?
[20:28] <DammitJim> is that 2 of them for stereo?
[20:29] <itnet7> I was just able to register my wife on the link for the Chrome netbook
[20:30] <dantalizing> nice
[20:31] <itnet7> s/netbook/notebook/
[20:32] <ShawnR> ah, headphones
[20:32] <ShawnR> in that case, I like my Motorola S9s
[20:32] <ShawnR> i have the older red ones, the newer ones boast "surround sound" virtualization stuffs (and are gray/black)
[20:33] <DammitJim> ShawnR, I have those S9 but I only use them for running
[20:33] <DammitJim> my ear openings are rather small and they hurt after using them longer than an hour
[20:33] <DammitJim> I've tried the different adapters that they come with
[20:34] <DammitJim> have you heard anything about the S305s?
[20:36] <ShawnR> I use them for running, too
[20:36] <ShawnR> oh...
[20:36] <ShawnR> i have some like that (prior to S9s)
[20:36] <ShawnR> those aren't so comfy either
[20:36] <ShawnR> are you looking for sit down listening?
[20:37] <ShawnR> not cheap, but sound great! http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10151&catalogId=10551&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665095015 i use these for non-running (or non-lawn mowing)
[20:37] <ShawnR> the DR-BT50 from sony
[20:37] <ShawnR> i think walmart has em for like $129 or so
[21:50] <Spreadsheet> Hello
[21:50] <Spreadsheet> What do you do for releases?