[06:47] <Kilos> morning superfly inetpro nuvolari and everyone else
[06:49] <superfly> morning Kilos
[06:49] <superfly> how are the chickens? oh wait, that's inetpro :-P
[06:50] <Kilos> lol
[06:50] <Kilos> :-)
[06:52] <deegee> morning Kilos
[07:15] <sakhi> morning Kilos
[07:16] <Kilos> hi deegee sakhi 
[07:17]  * Kilos happy everything so far working with maverick 
[07:17] <Kilos> just needed to chown all the /media
[07:24] <Kilos> hehe it even shows the stiffy in places
[07:46] <Kilos> i have a command to add to fstab but need to have it able to fat not ext3. can someone please correct it for me so i dont make another bobo
[07:46] <Kilos> /dev/sdb1  /media/MyData    ext3    defaults  0  0
[07:46] <Kilos> info came from here   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=872197&page=3
[07:48] <Kilos> i am thinking of making a boot floppy to install grub with if i have probs again
[07:50] <Kilos> or is it better to boot from cd and install grub from there
[07:51] <Kilos> i dunno if you can from the cli on a live cd
[07:54] <Kilos> it was a frightening experience not being able to boot my 80g
[07:54] <Kilos> or should i use the floppy on ext3
[08:12] <Kilos> brb
[09:07] <magespawn> good day all
[09:08] <magespawn> anybody expert with scribus 1.5 trunk?
[09:12] <confluency> Which one is that?  The stable or the beta?
[09:12] <confluency> Which package did you install?
[09:12] <magespawn> i think the beta. hold on brb.
[09:12] <confluency> Anyway, ask your question.  I haven't used it in a long time but I may remember something.
[09:13] <magespawn> Build ID: C-C-T-F-C1.8.10
[09:13] <confluency> Uh... how did you install it?
[09:14] <confluency> Ohhhhh, I see where you said trunk. :P
[09:14] <confluency> Built from source?
[09:14] <magespawn> i think so
[09:14] <confluency> What do you mean you think so? ;)
[09:14] <magespawn> i cannot remember
[09:15] <magespawn> i keep getting this error message when i try to put in an image frame
[09:15] <magespawn> Your Render Frame configuration seems to be invalid. Please check the settings in the External Tools section of the Preferences dialog.
[09:16] <confluency> What does dpkg -l | grep scribus say?
[09:17] <magespawn> ii  scribus                                                  1.3.3.13.dfsg~svn20081228-2ubuntu2              Open Source Desktop Page Layout
[09:17] <magespawn> ii  scribus-trunk                                            1.5.0svn201012022356-12~lucid1                  Open Source Desktop Page Layout - developmen
[09:18] <confluency> Do you have some kind of special repository enabled?
[09:19] <magespawn> again not sure. how do i check?
[09:19] <confluency> Also, before you do anything else, try upgrading the package to make sure you have the latest version.  But that looks pretty new.
[09:19] <confluency> ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[09:20] <confluency> and cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:21] <tumbleweed> confluency: I'm guessing scribus daily builds: https://code.launchpad.net/~scribus/+archive/ppa/+packages
[09:22] <tumbleweed> (but without an apt source, or it would be up to date)
[09:22] <magespawn> http://codepad.org/CLu21yTz
[09:22] <confluency> Yar, I just found that.
[09:22] <confluency> It looks like there's a newer package.  From January.
[09:23] <magespawn> http://codepad.org/D3PmVtFk
[09:23] <confluency> magespawn: OK, it's fine.  You have the scribus PPA enabled.
[09:23] <confluency> So upgrade first and see if it still happens.
[09:23] <confluency> If it still happens, I suggest asking in #scribus.
[09:24] <magespawn> it was working. okay brb
[09:25] <magespawn> i did it from within scribus go this back :No updates are available for your version of Scribus 1.5.0.svn
[09:25] <magespawn> - Scribus 1.3.3.14 is the latest stable release.
[09:25] <magespawn> - We have stabilised 1.3.3.x for those wishing to use some new features of the 1.3.x series but need more stability.
[09:25] <magespawn> - Scribus 1.3.8 was released 22 July 2010 
[09:25] <magespawn> Finished
[09:26] <tumbleweed> magespawn: this is ubuntu, update it with your package manager
[09:26] <magespawn> okay. how?
[09:27] <magespawn> the ubuntu software center?
[09:27] <tumbleweed> I don't know what tool you normally use, but "aptitude update" followed by "aptitude install scribus-trunk" (or just "aptitude full-upgrade") should do the trick
[09:27] <magespawn> okay brb
[10:13] <magespawn> thanks for the help
[10:14] <tumbleweed> np, was the issue you were having fixed in the newer build?
[10:34] <magespawn> no . but i do not need the render frames anyway. i thought i was using image frames. it looks like you have to set up the renders frames using something like latex which i do not need at the moment.
[10:34] <magespawn> so a bit of a non issue at the moment really.
[10:45] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[10:45]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[10:49] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[10:58] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[10:58] <Maaz> You're Welcome I'm sure
[11:00] <nuvolari> môre oom Kilos
[11:00] <nuvolari> ek meen mirrag :P
[11:01] <Kilos> dag nuvolari  gaan dit goed daar
[11:01] <nuvolari> aan die gang oom
[11:02] <Kilos> mooi
[11:02] <nuvolari> en met oom?
[11:02] <Kilos> goed dankie
[15:34] <Kilos> this looks like a good start to the year. no one needing help here or on the lists. only magespawn and I
[15:34] <Kilos> hehe
[15:35] <Kilos> and inetpro that needs to wear a face mask at home
[15:35] <Kilos> eeeeew
[15:35] <Kilos> Maaz, whats for supper
[15:35] <Maaz> Steak , egg and chips. And a free Coke
[15:35] <Kilos> hehe
[15:37] <Kilos> Maaz, wat eet ons vanaand
[15:37] <Maaz> Enigiets met pap en sous Kilos Ek is gelukig met mikro organismes van die internet
[15:43] <Kilos> Maaz, cool bot
[15:43] <Maaz> Thanks Kilos I have learned from the best
[17:06] <wedwo-> Maaz: Kilos.blog
[17:06] <Maaz> wedwo-: kilos.blog is http://mileyssignificantblog.blogspot.com/
[17:11] <nlsthzn> Hehe... like the name...
[17:51] <Kilos> evening ghostknife corrie206 charlvn 
[17:52] <charlvn> hi Kilos :)
[17:54] <nlsthzn> Kilos: hi uncle
[17:54] <Kilos> hey nlsthzn howzit
[17:57] <nlsthzn> Kilos: cool... glad to see you back online
[17:58] <Kilos> ty was hard being off
[17:58] <Kilos> even started walking and slow jogging then sleeping to calm the head down
[17:58] <Kilos> hehe
[18:00] <Kilos> but had some success getting a new mbr on a drive that crashed so it was good
[18:00] <Kilos> apart from lost data
[18:01] <nlsthzn> Glad to hear, right after my diabetes discovery I was as blind as a bat for a week... couldn't do anything on a PC, on TV, couldn't read... was torture...
[18:02] <Kilos> wow and now you all fixed again??
[18:03] <Kilos> sorry to hear that
[18:03] <nlsthzn> Kilos: yup... vision is ok and no permanent damage (very happy about that!)
[18:04] <Kilos> whew
[18:12] <inetpro> nlsthzn: eish
[18:12] <inetpro> Kilos: good to see you blogging again
[18:12] <Kilos> yeah ty inetpro 
[18:12] <Kilos> hows the smell
[18:12] <nlsthzn> inetpro: tell me about it...
[18:13] <inetpro> Kilos: was your problem fixed by just booting from the cd?
[18:13] <inetpro> surely you did something more than just booting?
[18:14] <Kilos> you first have to zero the drive and then when you boot from the cd the motherboard actually puts the machine code for the mbr back
[18:14] <Kilos> i booted and installed maverick cause was clean
[18:14] <Kilos> drive was clean
[18:15] <Kilos> that mbr is a swine to fix
[18:16] <Kilos> when you zero the drive it is the same as a new one
[18:23] <inetpro> Kilos: ahh... the clue is that you re-installed
[18:24] <inetpro> what you mean with zeroing teh drive is actually just cleaning the mbr record on the drive
[18:24] <inetpro> s/teh/the/
[18:26] <Kilos> yip
[18:26] <inetpro> Kilos: the mbr is just 512 bytes that live on the first sector of the drive
[18:33] <inetpro> Kilos: ok I guess you also knew that, just wanted to make sure
[18:44] <Kilos> yip but if they corrupt or gone the drive is buggered inetpro 
[18:44] <Kilos> i seen lots of guys crying about mbr gone
[18:44] <Kilos> used many megs gooling
[18:44] <Kilos> via maaz of course
[18:44] <Kilos> googling
[18:44] <Kilos> like i say my probs are never small ones
[18:44] <Kilos> as jy kan sukkel. sal jy
[18:45] <inetpro> Kilos: well I'm very glad that you're back online
[18:46] <inetpro> Kilos: you still using your cellphone to connect?
[18:46] <Kilos> ty and yip
[18:47] <Kilos> evn went up to 80kB/s when downloading
[18:47] <Kilos> but normally around 46kB/s
[18:48] <Kilos> hows the smell there inetpro 
[18:48] <Kilos> not washing away with the rain
[18:48] <Kilos> lo;
[18:48] <Kilos> lol too
[18:49] <inetpro> Kilos: I got hold of my neighbor and he's clearly done something
[18:49] <Kilos> good
[18:49] <Kilos> hehe
[18:49] <inetpro> but I was not here for most of the day, so I don't know for sure
[18:49] <Kilos> not lekker needing a mask in your own home hey?
[18:50] <inetpro> for sure
[18:50] <Kilos> you guys all seem very busy
[18:50] <Kilos> quiet here and on the lists
[18:54] <nlsthzn> sorry, @work (night shift)
[18:55] <Kilos> np nlsthzn 
[19:00] <inetpro> Kilos: holiday
[19:00] <Kilos> oh
[19:33] <wedwo-> Maaz: what's BSD?
[19:33] <Maaz> wedwo-: Sorry...
[19:35] <nlsthzn> lol
[19:35] <superfly> evidently it is not worth knowing about :-P
[19:36] <wedwo-> ja
[19:36] <inetpro> Maaz: bsd
[19:36] <Maaz> inetpro: What?
[19:37] <Kilos> Maaz, define bsd
[19:37] <Maaz> Kilos: BSD /B?S?D/, n.  [abbreviation for ?Berkeley Software Distribution?] a family of {Unix} versions for the {DEC} {VAX} and {PDP-11} developed by Bill Joy and others at {Berzerkeley} starting around 1977, incorporating paged virtual memory, TCP/IP networking enhancements, and many other features. The BSD versions (4.1, 4.2, and 4.3) and the commercial versions derived from them (SunOS, ULTRIX, and Mt. Xinu) held the technical lead in th
[19:37] <inetpro> wedwo-: what is it you want to know about bsd?
[19:37] <nlsthzn> PC-BSD is pretty cool
[19:37] <wedwo-> that's favouritism
[19:37]  * inetpro agrees with nlsthzn
[19:38]  * inetpro also loves FreeBSD
[19:39] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee on
[19:39]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[19:39]  * nlsthzn used desktop OS's on desktops... and laptops... and netbooks...
[19:40] <superfly> Maaz: coffee please
[19:40] <Maaz> superfly: Sure
[19:42] <inetpro> Kilos: can we still order rusks from Maaz with the coffee?
[19:43] <Kilos> eish
[19:43] <Kilos> dunno
[19:43] <inetpro> Maaz: rusks please
[19:43] <Maaz> There is a packet of Ouma's  on the top shelf
[19:43] <Kilos> Maaz, and rusks
[19:43] <Maaz> Kilos: Sorry...
[19:43] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for inetpro and superfly!
[19:43] <Kilos> fool forgot
[19:43] <inetpro> Maaz: thank you kind bot
[19:43] <Maaz> sure thing, inetpro
[19:43] <Kilos> Maaz, rusks please
[19:43] <Maaz> There is a packet of Ouma's  on the top shelf
[19:44] <Kilos> ah
[19:44] <inetpro> :-)
[19:44] <Kilos> Maaz, dankie
[19:44] <Maaz> Groot plesier Kilos my vriend
[19:45] <wedwo-> Maaz: I can't reach the top shelf
[19:45] <Maaz> wedwo-: *blink*
[19:45] <Kilos> hehe
[19:46] <wedwo-> Maaz: define *blink*
[19:46] <Maaz> wedwo-: Blink \Blink\, v. t. 1. To shut out of sight; to avoid, or purposely evade; to shirk; as, to blink the question. [1913 Webster]  2. To trick; to deceive. [Scot.] --Jamieson. [1913 Webster], Blink \Blink\ (bl[i^][ng]k), v. i. [imp. & p. p. {Blinked} (bl[i^][ng]kt); p. pr. & vb. n. {Blinking}.] [OE. blenken; akin to dan. blinke, Sw. blinka, G. blinken to shine, glance, wink, twinkle, D. blinken to shine; and prob. to D. blikken to gla
[19:46] <wedwo-> lol
[19:53] <Kilos> might all sleep tight
[19:53] <Kilos> night too
[19:53] <inetpro> Kilos: good night
[23:28] <wedwo-> [14:37] <inetpro> wedwo-: what is it you want to know about bsd?
[23:29] <wedwo-> Sorry, wasn't ignoring you. Only saw that now. Was explaining to Kilos that windows is now using a lot of BSD code and he had never heard of BSD