=== root_op is now known as root_op|laptop[I [00:49] SpamapS: turns out yes, and that my i/o redirect was wrong; can up start manage the logfiles? [01:01] micheil: not really. [01:01] micheil: its on my todo list to develop a set of best practices for logging in upstart [01:02] root_op|laptop[I: upstart is proven and its capabilities/shortcomings are well known and documented. [02:25] SpamapS: okay, for now I'm just doing a exec program >> stdout.log 2> stderr.log [02:25] style thing [20:07] I'm trying to write a new upstart job, saving it in one folder and then adding a symlink to /etc/init. Upstart tells me "Unkown job". Does this mean that it is not possible to symlink to upstart jobs?